"I have many H1B visas on my properties" sounds way too close to "I have many slaves on my properties" to be comfortable
@CheekyLad_Күн бұрын
That is essentially what it's always been about, cheap labour from abroad, not white supremacy.
@tony_5156Күн бұрын
Slaves? Wrong term to use, best term to use is Indentured Servants.
@Jeez001Күн бұрын
Well it’s all about race to bottom
@Improversity-j8mКүн бұрын
Bro My name Doren
@SenkaZverКүн бұрын
That's because it is the modern version. These people literally want to turn 1st world countries into feudal systems with themselves as the lords and nobles.
@EvanABeenrrКүн бұрын
this woulda done numbers in 2024
@lukepaul7931Күн бұрын
*back in my day* ahh comment
@daz8726Күн бұрын
@@lukepaul7931 "ahh comment" ahh comment
@kylemakre6714Күн бұрын
@@daz8726 "ahh comment ahh comment" ahh comment
@PoopSqueezenutsКүн бұрын
*AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH*
@RyBrownКүн бұрын
@@lukepaul7931do not be afraid of comments
@Maxo-bh5niКүн бұрын
5:44 Elon Musk disagreed with people, so he cut their badges and monetization. The greatest free speech advocate in the world, everybody! Give a round of applause!
@whitepaws60Күн бұрын
The party of "muh free speech" when someone uses that free speech to shit on them:
@pb25193Күн бұрын
Does freedom of speech entitle people to free dollars? Please educate me..
@fica1137Күн бұрын
@@pb25193do you not see how financially incentivizing certain speech over the other sets a dangerous precedent for a "free speech" platform? That's not even taking into account many users who were falsely suspended for going against Musk
@mw8099Күн бұрын
@@pb25193 Its not free dollars, the monetization plan set up by God Emperor Daddy Elon himself is that if you are a PAYING subscriber to his twitter (or X or whatever) platform then part of your subscription is to get PAID for the advertising on YOUR TWEETS. Its literally a thing they are paying for. The people who got cut should file a class action for breach of contract.
@jcmcgee1573Күн бұрын
@@pb25193 i think free speech, on a platform that proponents free speech as its ethos, entitles me to speak freely, even about the dorky ass ceo.
@angrychickengod3831Күн бұрын
The best part of this whole thing was Vivek's tweet where he advocated for "more movies like Whiplash," implying that he watched that movie and felt motivated to work harder and that everyone else should feel the same way
@justinhageman1379Күн бұрын
Absolutely crazy
@idontwantahandlethoughКүн бұрын
Vivek is..... something. ...not something good.
@mastertonberry9224Күн бұрын
Ahhh Whiplash... the favourite film of people who like the idea of jazz, but have absolutely no idea about it
@fubjah6974Күн бұрын
@@mastertonberry9224well I don’t know much about jazz but I liked whiplash, I liked it because I thought it was a good movie
@EmyriadGamesКүн бұрын
@@mastertonberry9224 Yeah it's not so much about jazz as it is about fatherly abuse with a musical score
@Atlastheyote222Күн бұрын
Ah Whiplash, the movie where the main character is so stressed about getting to work on time that he gets in a car crash, nearly dies, then goes to work anyway (probably with internal bleeding and/or broken bones) and gets fired. PERFECT CASE STUDY
@Matthew.GarlandКүн бұрын
funny, but bro loved his work so its not the same, i get you tho
@Atlastheyote222Күн бұрын
@ hardly the ideal work environment either way imo
@nielsbishereКүн бұрын
The true american work environment
@jcmcgee1573Күн бұрын
@@Matthew.Garland yeah and the work wasnt going anywhere, he did it because it was dogma. The drumkit aint moving.
@a-iz4pgКүн бұрын
Also he later goes on to get involved in an abusive professional relationship where he gets addicted to heroin and OD's.
@kju-uu8meКүн бұрын
Who knew Billionaires don't share the working classes interests...
@slowestjabroniКүн бұрын
DUDE DID TRUMP JUST SAY "WE NEED A LOT COMING IN" WHILE RUNNING AN ANTI IMMIGRATION CAMPAIGN? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
@evaldssontomКүн бұрын
Illegal immigrants. H1b holders get kicked out if they don't have a job.
@udontknowme00Күн бұрын
@@ronitshah9279 im gonna hold your hand when i tell you this
@YT7mcКүн бұрын
@@ronitshah9279uhm… lol x3
@Exisist5151Күн бұрын
@@ronitshah9279 Dude.
@irecordwithaphone1856Күн бұрын
@@ronitshah9279Were you asleep?
@AlexJ1Күн бұрын
"This is what this country needs" - Vivek after getting the bad ending in Bioshock
@the11382Күн бұрын
There's Crypto-bros who want Bioshock unironically. Vivek is milktoast compared to them.
@hobobob59Күн бұрын
@@the11382Reminds me of Ben Shapiro's sister playing bioshock and taking away the message that rapture failed due to communists and people who were unwilling to work hard.
@the1138223 сағат бұрын
@@hobobob59 How did she feel about Frank Fontaine then?
@Mr___f22 сағат бұрын
@@hobobob59 Did she play with no subtitles and with the volume muted? I love Bioshock but the message is blunt near the end lmao
@TihetrisWeathersbyКүн бұрын
People really think the Richest man in the world cares about them
@TalonzorКүн бұрын
Conned enough people into thinking their lives would get better with a specific vote. lets see how that plays out
@slouch186Күн бұрын
bro barely even cares about his own children lmao
@AlmightyEnelКүн бұрын
Omg youre in this comment section too? I thought you were only in Hasan’s
@irecordwithaphone1856Күн бұрын
@@Talonzor*Bribed, he basically bribed people into voting. What Elon Musk did was extremely shady
@dnsjtohКүн бұрын
yeah like ask his daughter
@wizardan3933Күн бұрын
By the way, ALL of the companies you listed that were engaging in wage theft (Cognizant, Tata Consultancy, etc) are widely known for mass hiring the bottom of the barrel in India. They are definitely not seen as something to aspire to, more like a 'I need a job so my family doesnt think im a loser with a degree' job. All of the actual smart talent goes to Indian startups, the Government or MNCs in India.
@riptyurass302Күн бұрын
While that's true, alot of really smart people from India have no intent to stay in India. The US, UK and Australia are usually at the top of where they 'aspire' to go to.
@HSE331Күн бұрын
@@riptyurass302hence the recreation of mini caste systems in literally every anglo country where the bottom of the barrel lower caste indians are literally slaves to higher caste middlemen especially in terms of getting them accomodation or illegally letting them work other jobs like uber eats
@That-_-GuyКүн бұрын
@@riptyurass302this
@amazin7006Күн бұрын
@@riptyurass302 For top talent for sure, they would gladly come to America because we pay an order of magnitude more for the same work. This idea that companies want H1b workers just to underpay them is not really true at all, idk where atrioc is getting this. Most of them are paid the same or more as any native worker. Google's CEO was an Indian immigrant that only came to America for university. The reason most are in tech is because we had a huge tech labor shortage. Tech has 1-2% unemployment which is well below the norm
@jcmcgee1573Күн бұрын
@@amazin7006 hes getting it from the hundreds of reports that have been published lol, just read about it for a bit.
@gingertew9249Күн бұрын
If my boy adrian dittmann was there we would've had this sorted out easy
@RieneauКүн бұрын
He'd get asked about H1B Visas and suddenly ask a question about the most basic thing in Fortnite. That's why he's my GOAT
@SenkaZverКүн бұрын
It's funny, how they both act like STEM/educated people should be celebrated and awarded but then pay their STEM/educated employees like McDonald's workers. People want to be the roles in society that are rewarded by Society.
@implosive4065Күн бұрын
As an H1B immigrant from Twitch chat, being indentured to KZbin comments ain’t easy.
@LiaEAКүн бұрын
Thank you for doing your part. KZbin really needs a tracking system like twich has
@SYLin-rs8obКүн бұрын
This is the problem with H1Bs, right here. All these "twitch chatters" come over and take all the comment space away from REAL, hardworking, established youtube commenters! There's no comments left for the real youtube commenters anymore, we need to kick them out! (to Canada)
@swo8550Күн бұрын
si
@geckogeico2212Күн бұрын
I'm friends with a guy who knows someone that's dating a sister of the KZbin CEO, and I believe that gives me the power to say you're fired, bucko.
@Ktmfan450Күн бұрын
@@geckogeico2212 How does it feel being an elite
@ukulelevillain4170Күн бұрын
what's the point of having two images of racists on the right side? 1:01
@chimitrashКүн бұрын
I think it's to point out that even minorities can be racist since Brandon has glancer and all that jazz
@testacalsКүн бұрын
There is only one image of racist though.........
@crediblesalamander8056Күн бұрын
@chimitrash he's our half-bi latino by proxy king.
@redpepper7421 сағат бұрын
@@crediblesalamander8056”half-bi” is crazy 😖🤯
@DisisdabeastКүн бұрын
Saying "more movies like Whiplash" like the point of the movie was that Fletcher was right is actually fucking insane. Whiplash is one of my favorite movies and I thought Fletcher had a point when I was FIFTEEN, not as a grown adult.
@idontwantahandlethoughКүн бұрын
idk if you've figured it out yet, but that's the common theme with ALL [American] republicans: they never grew up, they're chronically immature. (that's not to say that they're the _only_ ones that are immature, just that all of them happen to be immature toddlers)
@krenbenz6991Күн бұрын
Yeah cuz the best of all time were pampered and told they were good enough while no one ever pushed them to be better or give them any tough love. You're right. The GOATs never worked harder than anyone else.
@Amick2003Күн бұрын
@@krenbenz6991 Fletcher’s alt 😳
@jonathancastro8487Күн бұрын
@@Amick2003fr
@jonathancastro8487Күн бұрын
Now I think I didn't get the movie, I just liked the soundtrack
@DNeonLampКүн бұрын
4:45 the villain from Disney's Recess: The Movie was a man trying to bring about endless winter because Scandinavian countries apparently succeed because they don't have as much summer vacation and the long winters kept kids indoors studying. He is literally Vivek's idol lmao.
@frvsted_Күн бұрын
I was working with Google when this happened as well, I was forced to train a canadian counterpart to do my position before i was let go - and I got yelled at because I "didn't train him to standard". Well i wonder why I didn't want to really train the guy who's doing my job for 20-40k less?
@dusk2308Күн бұрын
god damn snow Mexicans /j
@ericolivier1271Күн бұрын
Unless Trump rips up NAFTA-2 again (which is likely tbf), the example Canadian will still be able to undercut an American through a TN visa which is baked into the North American Free Trade deals. The H1B system is broken, but there are also a lot of other pathways which would allow for worker exploitation and general abuse
@LastStar00723 сағат бұрын
Wtf were they gonna do, fire you?
@targetbuddy522 сағат бұрын
@@LastStar007 Probably withhold severance, like the Disney example. Big corps always find a way to screw you
@matthewgoodman43416 сағат бұрын
did this really happen? google has offices in canada I don't understand why they would need to use H1B
@MAJ0ROCEL0TКүн бұрын
I worked for a hotel chain that did this so badly they basically did have slave labor. My manager told me about how her hostess came to her crying because the H1B have housing provided for them and wages get garnished for it, her paycheck after taxes was $10 for a full time pay period because they were charging like 1700 a month for a shared apartment with 3 other people. They were "being paid $25/hr" but the management company took $9/he so they made 16. But after other accomodations they are making anywhere from 10¢-$8/hr.
@francisugorji757Күн бұрын
Wow that’s disgusting
@kAo_jklКүн бұрын
jesus 10 cents is fucking crazy, what do you even do in that scenario if you have stuff to pay and get pained literal pennies.
@cogandballКүн бұрын
@francisugorji757 it's insanely rampant. If yalll see this "left" leaning southern guy called beau of 5 column or some dumb sh*t he did this to young European women cleaning hotels. I wonder what else he did that never made it to the court. Worst of all the accent he puts on is fake you can find videos of him after jail without it
@AltraHapiКүн бұрын
Wtf Actually, there is something genuinely wrong if your income is under 3 digits a month
@PoopSqueezenutsКүн бұрын
WHERE.
@Jumbleman5Күн бұрын
Laura eventually chose Steve over Stefan anyway, so the reference doesn't work. Not knowing Family Matters trivia that basic is pretty embarrassing.
@dri1811yaКүн бұрын
As a fellow boomer, I salute you 🫡
@Black_Elmer_Fudd18 сағат бұрын
Because he's not American. He's just using us and pretending to be one of us
@jamad-y7m47 минут бұрын
This. Stefan was a bad guy and a fuckboi
@maxgamesst1Күн бұрын
What an amazing breakdown of this issue, I didnt understand it at all before and now I feel like I could explain it to someone else. I will say I dont entirely disagree with Viveks tweet about America not promoting a culture that priortizes engineers and scientists, however he definitely went pretty far with it and it seems like it is purely motivated by self intrest. I think its intresting how the realignment of parties (I ended up changing parties this election) is causing multiple issues with unique combinations of intrested parties. This is how it SHOULD be, I'm tired of people always aligning with some party doctrine instead of thinking of each issue critically and I think this is a really postitive trend going forward
@tray2204Күн бұрын
Commenting just to say this is an amazing comment
@Sagora123Күн бұрын
Something not mentioned in this video.. American companies laid off 500k tech positions within the last 2 years. Vivek and Musk are straight up lying saying we have a shortage of "talented" engineers.
@xiuxiu1108Күн бұрын
What's ironic is that he's advocating for a cultural shift towards more STEM majors while campaigning for the party that wants to further cut public education funding both directly and indirectly.
@electron6825Күн бұрын
Calling this chaos "a really positive trend" is something else
@Teddy_k847Күн бұрын
American culture landed us on the moon half a century before India. American culture is the strongest in the world, that’s why America is the strongest country in the world
@adityach7Күн бұрын
As an Indian on H1b here in America, I appreciate your take. I personally know of people that are gaming the system and are being underpaid but it's completely legal, while other more talented people I know couldn't get their name in the lottery. I do want to talk about the 150k$ limit that you suggested. I am an applications engineer and the median salary for the position is about 85k. I make 100k but also got a significant amount of equity worth multiple years worth of salary. Based on your suggested limit, I wouldn't be eligible for the role, however, my company went through over 200 applicants and the position seemed like it was hand crafted for me. I work in a research lab, the exact type of research lab that I worked at in my university for over 3 years. For most professions outside of computer science, 150k is just very prohibitive to the industry, specially given H1b visas are usually given to students that come to America to study and then after working for a company for 3 years, they choose to sponsor the lottery. Pretty often they make over the stated limit but in a different way. Last year I made upwards of 300k but I wouldn't qualify based on this criteria because I didn't cash my stock options.
@TSPageКүн бұрын
Would there be an issue with the companies swapping that stock compensation to salary? Or perhaps the accumulated sum of salary + stock meeting 150k?
@adityach7Күн бұрын
@ it would be coz I work for a startup that’s due to IPO in the next year. There is a reason companies give stocks and not direct compensation. It saves on taxes and spending for the company. It’s good got balancing the books.
@sevenshooter2987Күн бұрын
You should be back in indian and your job needs to go to an American who went to college in the US.
@vimandmanyothers554Күн бұрын
@@sevenshooter2987found the racist
@JmonkleyКүн бұрын
Okay well its not the actual number its the idea. So just take the average of the industry and make it the lower limit for pay for H1B. Cuz the problem is major outsourcing for many Americans. And like obviously the country should put its citizens first.
@shanepeterman4083Күн бұрын
the picture of ludwig SENT ME
@colevleeming4532Күн бұрын
Who cares man
@bluestonecreeprКүн бұрын
FLYING
@LookHearMeOut21 сағат бұрын
@@colevleeming4532 Ludwig is that you 👀
@redpepper7421 сағат бұрын
@@colevleeming4532I care SO MUCH you wouldn’t believe it.
@Sunless133717 сағат бұрын
It's funny because Hasan.
@assassinsshadow6904Күн бұрын
Trump hasn’t thought about a citizen since he said “I’m in debt, homeless people I walk past have 900,000$ more than me” wich was soooooo out of touch
@notyarrsКүн бұрын
Shadow fight 2 was the last good game ever 😔😔😔
@vital1114Күн бұрын
brother the simple fact that people are confused to the idea that they're able to agree about one thing while disagreeing about another is the real story here haha.
@irecordwithaphone1856Күн бұрын
Because people have been pit against each other over culture war stuff to the point where there's so much animosity we forget that there is a common enemy
@viceroy3297Күн бұрын
@@irecordwithaphone1856 the funniest part to me is that both sides have identified the same enemy but have given it different names
@NeoEvanA.R.TКүн бұрын
@@viceroy3297 no no, the idea that the rich are the enemy, border too closely with communist.
@jimmyyarbrough9883Күн бұрын
@@viceroy3297Facts. I am from the Bay Area in California and MAGA has, literally, turned into the extreme leftist paranoid drug addled hippies who had been left behind from the actual movement of the Vietnam War era. It's legit disturbing just how extreme a turn around the right did. The only value they kept was the racism.
@christopher6267Күн бұрын
👏👏beautifully put
@todo963321 сағат бұрын
Anyone who owns a home worth more than 2 million or multiple homes isn't someone I'd ever trust. Anyone who trusts people who own private jets is someone whose intelligence I can't ever respect.
@blendo38933 сағат бұрын
Brother doesn’t trust most of suburban Massachusetts
@CriticalSlowingКүн бұрын
Main channel Atrioc video where 1/10th of the video is just Atrioc watching Urkel
@SmoothResКүн бұрын
His best content yet.
@johnahern6140Күн бұрын
Lud catching strays but i'll let it slide.
@crzyjerzy3710Күн бұрын
thank god johnahern6140 let it slide i woulda not liked to see that play out
@AltairKapasiКүн бұрын
Lmao
@johnahern6140Күн бұрын
@@crzyjerzy3710 You're welcome Brother/Sister. I'm a lover not a fighter.
@akifismail6597Күн бұрын
The problem with O1 is that the requirements/accomplishments required are so high that most people who qualify for the program are late in their life who are not likely to move somewhere else on a non immigrant visa. Young people are the ones likely to immigrate to the states but they dont have the qualifications O-1 demands. Also O1 is a non immigrant visa and nobody wants to help the American economy and not be considered American (be a citizen). H1B is the only attractive American visa and it should be fixed. O-1 is inherently flawed and doesnt accomplish its purpose.
@TacIsRatКүн бұрын
Glizzy (I haven’t watched the video yet) Just finished it and i hate elon even more. Thanks FrankBoy!
@george1717Күн бұрын
glizzy (I've watched 65 seconds of the video so far)
@murky16Күн бұрын
Update?
@AlinaTaylor-p4gКүн бұрын
Thank you for always making amazing content Atrioc
@yetispaghetti5754Күн бұрын
4:42 As much as I wish there were more movies like Whiplash, in this context you know they only said this cause they missed the whole point of the movie
@piknos3381Күн бұрын
I just find it funny how people are so serious about supporting complete strangers and become surprised when they do stuff like this.
@ghanshyamnath20 сағат бұрын
there's 1 point I want to make which I think Atrioc got it wrong. h1b workers can switch jobs, you get 3 months grace period to find a new job once fired or when you quit your job. Also, you cannot just find "any" job. It needs to be in the field you are an expert of. If you get laid off by google, you cannot go work for starbucks as a barista. the new job must be in the same field.
@EE_etcetera3 сағат бұрын
He did mention the 90 before deportation in the stream, but I guess it never made it in the video. I didn't know that of expertise.
@jonathanlange5769Күн бұрын
13:15 We are this close to class consciousness.
@stormburn110 сағат бұрын
If only. Unfortunately, the right is just going to appropriate the "socialist" label... again. Never believe right wing populists actually care about workers. If they did, they wouldn't be right wing.
@donovian2538Күн бұрын
Rip to whichever stock image model got chosen to rep the racists
@phygsКүн бұрын
lol this is a worse insult than calling him a racist
@PårchmēntôsКүн бұрын
Pretty sure that’s Ludwig.
@donovian253821 сағат бұрын
@@Pårchmēntôs No idea
@realKhalilG14 сағат бұрын
It's just Ludwig bro
@mikeaft35855 сағат бұрын
@@realKhalilG you don't know that
@lilchawneeКүн бұрын
I think the best part is that in that tug of war example where Bernie is with working class maga, is that he has always been on there side they just don’t understand it 😂
@jamad-y7m45 минут бұрын
A lot of Maga voters were Bernie Bros before the DNC neutered him
@brocasimp8320Күн бұрын
We all know that companies would rather hire people that were trained in other companies overseas than train the people we have here and take advantage of the people who come here and not upholding what the H1B visa is about. (Shout out to all the people who can't get their first job due to lack of experience when no one will give it to you)
@tylerporter150718 сағат бұрын
H1B is very common for doctors. What ends up happening a lot of the time is a foreign doctor is put into a job that no American physician would take because it sucks to much and pays too little. The abuse that happens to doctors in that position because they cannot leave until there time is up is unreal and hurts American patients. There's always a bait and switch with it. The initial contract says something like "see 15 patients a day" but then they just keep adding more and more and the doctor can't say no because they'll just get deported. Basically every big hospital does some amount of this.
@uenragedbroКүн бұрын
You know, there's a right way and a wrong way to have gone about doing this, and vivek did it the wrong way. "A society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards, and wars fought by fools."
@mother.russianКүн бұрын
This is a very interesting situation, which I have seen first hand. I do somewhat agree with Vivek about the “Americans being lazy” thing, but only as a comparison to international workers. These international workers have had to fight to overcome a lot more than most Americans, and are essentially trying to live the American dream. I have seen college students fighting for the limited h-1b certifications, and have seen them have to return to their home countries because they could not get one. The competition forces people to fight or go home. And as with anything else, some of the more deserving candidates slip through the cracks, especially because a lot of students are vying for more entry level jobs. Companies have an allotted amount of visas to give out, and this means these companies typically save them for higher level positions while ignoring a lot of young talent. Many larger companies even have signs at career fairs stating that you must be a citizen to even approach them. However, there is also a large number of talented US citizens who may also go unnoticed or underpaid, and this undoubtedly creates a lot of resentment for foreign workers, especially if the citizen feels they are objectively or even arguably the better candidate. It is also important to mention that these same companies that hire international workers for cheaper wages also consistently brag and talk about their “company culture”. This is not to say that foreign workers cannot adapt to US culture or haven’t already, it is merely to say that different walks of life (and therefore different countries) simply *do* have different cultures. Overall the system is broken and it’s hard to say what it should be. Especially because competition is what drives life, and is fundamental to capitalism, but these companies (as per usual) abuse and game the system and will lobby their way to benefit themselves more, often to the detriment of everyone else.
@floor_board1238Күн бұрын
1:21 map is crazy, doesn't even have Georgia separate from Russia, also Sudan isn't split. Tajikistan is shown as part of China.
@calvin7330Күн бұрын
And Svalbard and Iceland are implied to be Danish. Independent Taiwan though
@_Greyboi_Күн бұрын
Every time I look at a map I immediately check if Sudan is split lol, safe to say it did not past the test
@vovavasilevskyi70Күн бұрын
Crimea is part of russia...
@filipsichrovskyКүн бұрын
Iceland is Greenland actually
@_Greyboi_Күн бұрын
No eswatini or Kyrgyzstan either
@byrontheusurper650512 сағат бұрын
3:04 this is the whiniest piece of "i'm 14 and this is deep" writing I've ever read! This guy got called a nerd one too many times and went on a rampage! How can anyone take that seriously?
@jamad-y7m33 минут бұрын
He must have a small w e e n
@joannaxuan4265Күн бұрын
As someone who chose not to study in the US as a international student because I would not be able to get a job there when I graduate (and would like to use my talents as a top graduate for high-paying jobs that don't exist in my area, shamelessly) and decided to go to the top school in the UK (because despite their much lower wages, it is not a lottery for me to keep my job), the H1B is really the main goal for many, many international students to avoid paying the extraordinarily high US tuition and sent back to making much lower wages in their home country The company also holds the H1B over you. Because you're so desperate to stay, you will accept anything as long as you get a visa.
@joannaxuan4265Күн бұрын
So: I once applied for an econ research position where there were a huge amount of data related to employment to sort through, and every single company was an unknown company, with bases in India. I was rlly confused because this was not an India dataset, in fact, it is much more likely a US dataset. They are all hiring for computer scientists, despite looking like HR companies. THEN, at precisely 8:48, it hits me. Tata and Infosys are H1B loaners, and that was what I was sorting through.
@joannaxuan4265Күн бұрын
Re: 13:43 this is what the UK did, but now it's wildly above what you make in so many fields (because the wages in the UK are so low) that it really only applies to CS and Finance. The solution was to make this sector related, but it still causes much pain and annoyance
@WhitewingdevilКүн бұрын
"I'm buying Twitter to promote free speech!" "Wait, people are disagreeing with me? BAN THAT SPEECH IMMEDIATELY!"
@CalmPantherableКүн бұрын
Don’t know how I never put together the insane tax loophole that elon musk donates to his own charity that funds an industry he is largely involved in, insane
@jamad-y7m35 минут бұрын
I love how that backfired with Open AI
@iamcool544Күн бұрын
Its almost as if issues arent so down the line that its always right wing vs left wing
@chriswest6988Күн бұрын
Tech companies call government inefficient, but look who invented a compression algorithm that gets a whole person down to one bit.
@nyon7209Күн бұрын
@@chriswest6988 This is what makes reading comments on KZbin worth it for me. Thanks.
@badaboum2Күн бұрын
It's more that there's a massive discreptency between what right wing voters think they vote for and what their parties actually do. The right keeps campaigning against immigration while never actually doing anything to lower it once in power. Trump's 1st term? Immigration went up. Brexit and subsequent Tory leadership? Immigration went up. Meloni in Italy? Immigration went up. In France the only time immigration went down in the last 70 years was in the 80s when the left was in power.
@matt.stevick23 сағат бұрын
government will be using and benefiting from the more productive efficiency that ai technology has and will continue to unleash.
@constantinexipalaeologus8312Күн бұрын
This happened in the construction industry two decades ago and I heard these workers tell people like my dad to “learn to code” well why don’t you “learn a new skill”. It’s ironic now to see these same “learn to code” cohort crying now.
@marcusgenz40202 сағат бұрын
People are self-centered and solipsistic, and life is clash of interest.
@constantinexipalaeologus8312Сағат бұрын
@ agreed which is why until the overarching incentive structures change this snowball will continue to roll down hill.
@jamad-y7m32 минут бұрын
The question is What skill are we supposed to learn now
@Moregon2613 сағат бұрын
My mom is an accountant for a dispensary in Oregon and she is literally going through the exact same thing as the Disney accountants were put through lmao. Had to spend 3 months training her replacement otherwise she won’t get her severance check and won’t qualify for unemployment.
@jamad-y7m36 минут бұрын
Same I'm a software dev and I have to help my fucking replacement learn how to do his job. I just do the bare minimum at this point
@EricLSКүн бұрын
There is nothing I love more than people being mad at the government for making a program, but the actual problem are corporations misusing said program. There is no greater disease in this country than the “government bad” mantra. Just completely short circuits any sort of meaningful discussion about properly administering programs and preventing abuse by bad actors.
@mikhanical7338Күн бұрын
The government is bad because the corporations ARE the government. In America we call it lobbying, in literally every other country it's just called corruption.
@stormburn110 сағат бұрын
"Government bad... so let's cede all power to corporations and bring back feudalism! If we do that, we'll get braindances and Kiroshi optics too, right?"
@Rabbit-the-OneКүн бұрын
Hey Atrioc, there's only 3 groups at 0:37 but you listed them like group 1 and 4 were not the exact same people. Group 4 was also comprised of a large chunk of group 2 as well.
@snusslybussly5749Күн бұрын
Truth nuke ?
@user-sp8sw7vt5kКүн бұрын
make H1B workers have to get paid double whatever the American counterpart is. If they're really better than hiring at least 2 locals, there should be no issue paying them as such. In practice, even with current H1B fuckery, this would bring up visa pay to at least the same level as it would be for citizens. Also like you said they should be able to work for any company with the visa. Put that free market into action, supply n demand n whatnot
@magnus2705Күн бұрын
If you force companies to pay H1B workers double their American counterpart no company would use the program. We would have slowed immigration to the US for high skill workers and if you really were for the free market you would be fine with foreign workers competing for American jobs. The American Dream is what made this country a world economic power house and while the H1B system isn't perfect it does have a massive economic benefit.
@Teddy_k847Күн бұрын
@@magnus2705companies should HARDLY EVER be using H1-B.
@nilmergКүн бұрын
@@magnus2705 economic benefit for whom ?? the companies ??? more & more americans live either paycheck-to-paycheck or have difficulties finding jobs that make sense for their level of education or experience. less & less americans have the disposable income to actually go out & live their lives, much less consider raising families. immigration is a good thing for both domestic & global economy, yes, but is it not a country's responsibility to think of the well-being of its citizens first? should we just let greedy companies, in any industry, destabilize the workforce just to appease some shareholders? not to mention, the current H1B system is, as the video states, a modern form of indentured servitude. because of the middlemen, current H1B workers can be paid even only cents as the middlemen take cuts from their wages. yet, they must continue to stay where they work or else be deported. they put up with it to support their families back home. how is that in any way an ethical system? is that a system we should be proud of? exploiting those who are just trying to find a better opportunity abroad as the USD is likely worth more? if that's your idea of the "american dream," then i suppose it's something only to be enjoyed by those who already have everything.
@ZhonoGraveКүн бұрын
@@magnus2705 Then the program shouldn't exist. It is meant to be allowing for filling gaps in skills, if companies aren't willing to pay double then they don't actually need those skills and are just trying to push down wages. No sane person gives two shits about whether America is a free market or not, rich people just want to pay people less. If the American dream can no longer exist except when it's handed to foreigners then it doesn't exist. American policy should exist to the primary benefit of Americans.
@kaputasriКүн бұрын
Brilliant, yeah, I mean if they are better, they deserve double the pay.
@botstik3877Күн бұрын
Ireland just updated the requirements for their equivalent visa to make it much easier to change jobs. Previously your 2 year visa required you to stay with the same company, after 1 year another company could “buyout” the other to transfer you for the final year but this needed all sorts of labour market needs tests. The biggest change is you can now freely change after 9 months no “buyout” and there was no need for a labour market needs test as you already proven yourself useful to the market.
@hendrafour7824Күн бұрын
Honestly the best explanation of this topic i've seen yet, thank you!
@matt.stevick23 сағат бұрын
atroic breaks things down and articulates topics incredibly well
@VictorErthal19 сағат бұрын
As a former h1b visa holder, I agree with your points completely. One thing to add is that there is a spouse visa for the h1b, and it is even more ridiculous as the spouse is not allowed to work or have any sort of income (including passive income) in us soil OR abroad. That is not only not realistic, it is near impossible.
@brittanywood189611 сағат бұрын
Then don’t come. We don’t need your spouse also taking an opportunity away from an American
@badaboum2Күн бұрын
There's a massive discreptency between what right wing voters think they vote for and what their parties actually do. The right keeps campaigning against immigration while never actually doing anything to lower it once in power. Trump's 1st term? Immigration went up. Brexit and subsequent Tory leadership? Immigration went up. Meloni in Italy? Immigration went up. In France the only time immigration went down in the last 70 years was in the 80s when the left was in power.
@karankshahКүн бұрын
Atrioc the first youtuber to actually point out the struggle of H1-B workers and the fact that it’s an excuse to underpay them. The reality is that paying H1-Bs better (and adhering to the rules as written) would simultaneously massively cut corporate demand for those workers. Another case where simply enforcing the law as written would go a long way to making everyone happy
@alicekinsКүн бұрын
streamers are taking our jobs and nobody talks about it enough
@James-ek3mb55 минут бұрын
thanks for the breakdown lil A. I liked your suggested changes to H1B policies at the end too
@adhityathirumala5414Күн бұрын
not mentioning sriram krishnan is an absurd mistake by atrioc that focuses on lots of the wrong parts of the debate. sriram's initial policy proposal was to remove country caps on the h1-b, NOT to increase the total amount. the race war then started as people simply hated on sriram for the crime of being indian. as expected, many on the tech-bro right (justifiably) came to sriram's defense. as more and more racists started becoming mask off and started defending the removal of all h1-b workers from the company, said right-wing tech bros realized that the leopaeds were on the brink of eating their faces. that is where the start of this video actually begins. neither elon nor vivek initally went in with the idea to increase h1-b's. in fact, elon thinks that the system as a whole needs to be reworked away from the lottery and more towards meritocracy.
@adhityathirumala5414Күн бұрын
no one on the tech camp thinks that h1-b is a perfect system, but insofar as it does exist, they believe that it should be increased because they genuinely make industry better.
@EE_etcetera3 сағат бұрын
What is the country cap for the H1B?
@joseph_M21 минут бұрын
Exactly this! Too many ppl on the left are coming to the same conclusion as maga for different “reasons”. Saying things like “Indian Engineers aren’t as good as Americans and they’re being exploited so don’t let them in” vs “We don’t want anymore Indians here bc mAGa”. Then they say “see the left and right agree on something.” But they’re both still wrong fundamentally.
@lessefrostКүн бұрын
The thing that causes all this is the deportation when youre fired. Let H1-B workers compete in our labor market. It's anti capitalist to not let them play equally due to government overreach if we're "onboarding" these workers to be American some day
@tobantaКүн бұрын
Hey Atrioc I have my first ever big interview tomorrow for a Project Manager internship at Rolls Royce. I'm from the UK doing a math statistics and data science degree. I have been super interested in your content and have learnt a lot which I've taken away and researched on my own to gain deeper understanding and perspectives. Will be using some of these to reinforce my answers tomorrow. Wish me luck!!
@hhwippedcream15 сағат бұрын
Thanks so much for the valuable sensemaking you do. Keep that humor coming! Much needed in keeping us all engaged and tuned in as things progress into what would otherwise be seem as darkness.
@imAddictedtomymusicКүн бұрын
Marketing Monday on a Friday on a Monday? How peculiar
@DasNarwhal22 сағат бұрын
I work in IT. I have seen Cognizant workers in almost every IT role I've had at multiple companies. Just saying, but you really do get what you pay for and it shows when we get tickets from the colleagues in those companies. They also try to circumvent these things by just opening call centers in India. I am genuinely scared for the future of the job market I'm in, because my company JUST opened a tech center in India rather than hire more American workers. I have no problem with people from other countries coming to work in America. But when the majority of the IT sector is just people from India, and they are paid SHIT it really shows. Plus it tanks the rest of our wages in the process because it becomes the new norm to pay people shit for entry level IT positions.
@maryking9706Күн бұрын
Awesome video! The humility in your humor is exactly what we need.
@arghyabКүн бұрын
I think a big part of this whole debate was left out. The whole thing started with people being extremely mad and racist at Sriram’s appointment and not with that unhinged 500-words rant by Vivek
@BobTheBuilder-x1gКүн бұрын
No way youtube gate kept this vid for 57 seconds
@its2three4Күн бұрын
Another way to fix the H1B status is also to have the green card conversion process not reset if you change employers.
@Waffles17643Күн бұрын
So they’re takin our jobbbsss??!
@LEXeromaКүн бұрын
terk er jerrrrbbbss
@vishnumobКүн бұрын
If h1bs are decreased proportionally f1 students coming into the US will too. Which will start a whole new chain of events like increase in tuition fees in universities.
@0lumbusКүн бұрын
Anyone know the name of the song that starts around 2:49?
@Handl3sAreStupidКүн бұрын
This is the best put together Atrioc video I've seen in awhile. Nice job upping your game.
@Pur3lybo0tyКүн бұрын
there should be no advantage. everyone who applies for a visa or green card should have an equal chance
@testacalsКүн бұрын
Not really. Even heaven doesn't give equal chance to everyone.
@simonoodles6174Күн бұрын
THIS NEEDS TO BE TALKED ABOUT SO MUCH MORE THANK YOU SO FKNMUCHHHH
@peskii64Күн бұрын
2025 Year of the Glizzyhands
@compareandcontrast983313 сағат бұрын
I love how nobody on the right saw Elon and the tech bros screwing them over for profit. Like thats literally his whole thing.
@zebra1327Күн бұрын
Trump lied? Or rather forget something he said? Who'd have thunk it?
@pb25193Күн бұрын
Indian here. Completely agree with your proposals. One step further. SORT by salary and pick the top. No need to do lotteries.
@badicusvibesimus182Күн бұрын
I love Marketing Monday on a Friday on a Monday!
@MultiBlackman13Күн бұрын
7:40 It's not anti-immigrant to be against H1B visa's as long as you support raising the amount 0-1 visas the US approves.
@Avendesora18 сағат бұрын
How does replacing an immigrant visa with a non-immigrant visa make you any less anti-immigrant, exactly?
@MultiBlackman1318 сағат бұрын
@Avendesora the 0-1 visa is meant for foreign nationals to enter the country because of exceptional talent. It has less of the drawbacks the H-1B visa has, and it's less likely to be exploited by the corporate job market.
@Avendesora18 сағат бұрын
@ You cannot immigrate on an O-1 visa. Replacing an immigrant visa with a non-immigrant visa is only a solution if you don't want people immigrating. If you don't want people immigrating, you're anti-immigrant. This isn't difficult stuff.
@chanter3978Күн бұрын
I’m so tired of the “best and brightest / doctors and engineers” agenda that politicians always try to push when talking about immigration or foreign workers. It’s blatantly obvious that isn’t what we’re getting.
@sampatkalyan3103Күн бұрын
Afraid of competition and free market. Lol.
@chanter3978Күн бұрын
@@sampatkalyan3103 um no you jackass. I have no problem when a foreigner more skilled than me gets chosen for a job over me, which is what the politicians falsely claim is whats happening. Whats really happening is that foreigners less skilled than me are getting hired so companies can pay them next to nothing.
@brendonconkel3063Күн бұрын
@@sampatkalyan3103 👃🤮
@PårchmēntôsКүн бұрын
@@sampatkalyan3103 the “free market” is a scam. If it was actually free we wouldn’t be subsidizing corporations and bailing out investment bankers. America is all about socialism for rich people. The main point of a government is to improve its citizen’s lives, not to force us to compete with foreign workers who will do a job for half the wages.
@C3l3bi1Күн бұрын
@@sampatkalyan3103 lol "free market" yes i dont want to compete with dubai style literal slave labour that works for pennies on the dollar. how dare i and working class people push for our own interest? maybe we should just remove all import tax and value added tax because companies are afraid of "competition" on the free market? what happened to tiktok?
@jtm-25Күн бұрын
This affects healthcare as well. It’s well known by industry insiders that, after COVID, many health systems sought to replace union and contract clinicians with cheap H1-B employees from places like the Philippines immediately after the moratorium was lifted. This was about 1.5 years ago
@sadtwolvesfanКүн бұрын
Everyday the draw to live alone in woods grows stronger.
@addiktКүн бұрын
The problem with making any changes to H1B just means that these "American companies" are going to just deploy talent farms in low wage countries and offshore the jobs entirely. The only thing preventing them from really doing that now are beneficial tax agreements where they have committed to providing a certain number of jobs to a state, county, or municipality in exchange for those tax breaks. But, most of these tax agreements don't necessarily outline the quality of the types of jobs that the company is going to bring, and are probably a logistical nightmare to actually enforce.
@typokoКүн бұрын
Atrioc wasn't kidding with the video where he mentions that he will become a political rage baiter. Seesh!
@ZhonoGraveКүн бұрын
2x the cost of the position, minimum 200k, 10 people should be hired to do nothing but review H1Bs, those who have gotten through the process for a worker that isn't high skilled should be put in jail for 5 years, the person who approved the application should be fired and fined.
@giga_gogaКүн бұрын
Hey @Atrioc! There are a few missing/incorrect details in here: - H1B employees can change jobs. Look up H1B visa transfer. - In California, job postings mention salary range for each role, most people I know in tech (on H1B) are fairly compensated. - A lot of H1B employees are former (F1 visa) students who acquired their skills from universities in the US. They've already worked at companies on their student visa (CPT/OPT under F1), after which companies decide if they'd want to sponsor their H1B visa.
@mikephrizz1Күн бұрын
Chiming in to agree. As someone who works in a "highly skilled" but not computer science field, a blanket increase to $150k would not work - our industry does not support salaries that high for 0-10 year folks in general, regardless of H1b vs. citizen. While tech companies are the biggest abusers of the system, I'm wary of something like a fixed income minimum that is specifically targeted at just this one field.
@DeeslavКүн бұрын
Just because they can switch jobs doesn't make it easy, many colleagues that I've known had to move back to their country due to the downturn in economy and since they were bound by h1-b visas for one employer, they had no option. Yeah, I also work in the tech field currently, and let me tell you if it isn't California, you are getting paid below market value almost 100% of the time, every colleague I've discussed salary with who was on an h1-b visa was earning less than the range specified or at least the lowest point.
@giga_gogaКүн бұрын
@@Deeslav I'm glad to see empathy for us immigrants. :) I have no idea about experiences of employees outside of California, or employees who started careers without prior education in the US, so of course my data set isn't broad enough. Another issue with economic downturn / layoffs is that H1B visa requires finding a job within 60 days from last day of employment, or you'd have to leave the country as your visa expires, even if you've been working here for many years!
@isaiahrichards931922 сағат бұрын
He doesn't discuss it in this video but I think he did on stream, with this visa you have 90 days cumulatively to not be working until you get your green card essentially. So in the 10 years it takes to get that if you ever spend more than 90 days job hunting in total your visa is revoked. That includes the period after school when you're looking for a job (it has to be something applicable to your degree so no working at McDonalds in the meantime). The average time on the lower end to find a job if you don't already have an offer coming out of college is 3 months so essentially if you ever lose that job you immediately become an illegal immigrant.
@mandel4065Күн бұрын
"our culture celebrates the jock over the valedictorian", says man about only culture where the concept of "valedictorian" exists
@UU-wg6rzКүн бұрын
I am an Anglo-Saxon-American worker, and even when I go through these agencies, it's not just immigrants facing this. Roughly 1/3 of my paycheck is taken by an agency.
@bray7299Күн бұрын
Problem with the solution section, for flat rate far H-1 visas. If I’m correct PhD students are on those visas, if the school was required to pay them a ton it severely limits the number of international students they can take in
@Simon-tb6tnКүн бұрын
I feel like vivek just had a lot of controversial movie and show opinions he really wanted to share with the world and didn't really know how to package it into a tweet and now he's getting a lot of hate for an opinion he didn't really hold in the first place.
@zackarhino17Күн бұрын
This feels like the beginning of the end
@jnrfalconКүн бұрын
A little bit of technicality as a H1b worker myself. Technically companies cannot fire US workers and instantly hire a whole bunch of H1b. Any layoffs will disqualify the employer from using H1b for a certain period. However, this limit only applies to real higher talented workers as the major corporations will want to keep these people by hiring in house. A ton of lower skilled workers are working as contractors through consultants, like you mentioned. And they are not subject to the limit. The system is definitely broken. But this is also the only way for a relatively normal day person to immigrate to the US. (Other than marriage). Another huge thorn is relationship with India. Most of the duplicated lottery and lower skilled contractors are from India. On one hand, the US needs India to counter China, so neither party wants to completely fix H1b. On the other hand, they are large part of the problem surrounding H1b program
@DisastrousCake23 сағат бұрын
Dude, I remember when I graduated from CS and Tata Consultancy would not leave me alone. So funny to see them get a shoutout in an Atrioc vid. I did not pursue a job with them because they seemed too desperate. Also, yeah all of this H-1B talk as a CS grad and SWE, sucks. New grads are already getting absolutely rammed and anyone with less than 10+ YOE is also getting rammed as the market is already extremely saturated.
@pasttense69Күн бұрын
14:09 whoa whoa whoa, you want to give people more rights??????
@heyimsasquatchКүн бұрын
the cheerful outro music helps to not be so sad/mad at the world
@liyuubds6098Күн бұрын
If you say you need visa sponsorship on your application your chance of getting hired is significantly lowered. At least that is what I’ve experienced. The system is broken because people from a specific country have been abusing the h1b program through ICCs. But I don’t think the broken system has really affected American’s that much as the standard for hiring is still clearly favored toward the locals. The broken h1b program mainly affects foreign workers that refuse to abuse the system.
@marktaylor5115Күн бұрын
LOL brother hit'em with a Tom Cruse Tropic Thunder line.
@GrensleyКүн бұрын
13:16 is an all timer cartoon
@shivalrusКүн бұрын
Mini marketing monday on a friday being posted on a monday. what a world