The Hall flintlock breech loading rifle - History of development - Part 1.

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capandball

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Күн бұрын

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@AmberNull
@AmberNull 11 ай бұрын
I’ve got an 1861 Springfield that I demonstrated to the students in 8th grade history class learning about the American Civil War at the middle school I’m the principal at. Took them on a field trip to my property to demonstrate loading and shooting and allowing them to load and shoot under supervision. I used to be a history teacher and I love historical muzzle loading firearms. I showed several of your videos to the students most notable your video on the 1861 Springfield.
@capandball
@capandball 11 ай бұрын
As a fellow teacher, I have to say I am proud that my films find their way to education. Thanks!
@AmberNull
@AmberNull 11 ай бұрын
@@capandball, I would say you do the best at explaining to things in regards to this subject. This kind of learning really gets kids more interested into history than reading it from a textbook. I even made paper cartridges for each of the kids to load and showed your video on the paper cartridges.
@davefellhoelter1343
@davefellhoelter1343 11 ай бұрын
GOOD JOB! most my teachers knew their stuff too! built my 1st kit 58 revolver in about 1976 paid for started timed and blued at about 11 yrs old on my own 6th/7th grade
@janvanek9745
@janvanek9745 11 ай бұрын
Can you be my teacher😢
@papercartridges6705
@papercartridges6705 11 ай бұрын
Well shucks, now I need a Hall rifle! Excellent video Balazs, looking forward to part 2.
@capandball
@capandball 11 ай бұрын
:) we can call it inspiration, but I strongly believe that we are actually making each other mad Brett. :D
@rayc.1396
@rayc.1396 11 ай бұрын
WOW! I shot a few rounds threw a Hall flintlock when I was in high school. A fellow down the road was into BP and had quite a few early muzzle loaders. Sadly, I wasn't into BP as the in thing was modern cartridge guns then. That fellow past away while I was in the military, I have no Idea what happened to the muzzle loaders he had, probably someone sold them for junk, his children weren't interested in them. We loaded his Hall with loose powder and a ball, it was pretty tough on flints as I recall. Powder and ball were much easier to come by then also. That was in the 1960's. Thank you, I'll be watching for the next part.
@YouTubeIsRunByMarxists
@YouTubeIsRunByMarxists 10 ай бұрын
Saw one of those last year at a gun show. $8000. IT was a splendid weapon. You're a lucky fellow, getting to fire one.
@tomkratman4415
@tomkratman4415 11 ай бұрын
You're getting a better seal than I'd have expected.
@section8motorpool466
@section8motorpool466 2 күн бұрын
I’ve been making muzzleloaders in Maine for 40 years and seen the hall rifles many times, butthis is the first time I’ve seen one in use, in Hungary! Great channel keep up the great work! If you ever want to come to Maine let me know, I have everything for shooting including a private range.
@capandball
@capandball Күн бұрын
Thanks!
@stefankonig2426
@stefankonig2426 10 ай бұрын
Superb!
@strongback6550
@strongback6550 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for showing the prone loading. I doubt people would like to do that over kneeling, but it beats dying if you have exceptionally little cover and every man counts. Fire rate will likely suffer in that position, but fighting from cover isn't about volume anyway.
@daveyjoweaver6282
@daveyjoweaver6282 11 ай бұрын
What a beautifully designed and manufactured rifle! It is my first introduction to this gun and the best by Capandball of course! Thank You So Much! I have a N. Starr 1829 69 cal. I restored and shoot. It was a flintlock originally by later converted to cap lock in the 1840s. Military issue it is the 1816 designed model. Comparing the shooting of my 1829 to yours of this video is like nigh and day. I do make paper cartridges but what a difference in loading under battle conditions! Again I Thank You and Many Blessings to You and your Family! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
@seyedamirkhakzadian7794
@seyedamirkhakzadian7794 11 ай бұрын
برنامه هات یکی از یکی دیگه بهتره . اینیکی که حرفه ای بود . خیلی لذت بردم وقتی روی تکنیک عملکرد سلاح مانور دادی . وحتی قطعاتشو باز کردی و دقیق نشون دادی ❤ مخصوصا این سیستم تفنگ که ندیده بودم و ازش کلی الهام گرفتم . واقعا کپ این تفنگ روی یک پیچ به قطر ۸ میلیمتر لولا و سوار شده و در فشار اثر شلیک کج نمیشه ؟ ، عالیه ❤ با هر شلیک که رو به دوربین میخندی منم باهات لبخند میزنم عالی امیر از ایران
@loosegoose41
@loosegoose41 11 ай бұрын
As an American I'm so used to seeing firearms brought in for US consumers - it's cool to see a rifle that made it out to Europe and into good hands...what a history your Hall must have.
@lipp1992
@lipp1992 11 ай бұрын
Pedersoli needs to make some of these! I'm head over heels.
@nunyabizness4354
@nunyabizness4354 11 ай бұрын
Well done. Please keep creating content of this type.
@revere0311
@revere0311 9 ай бұрын
Just won one! Off an auction, surplused from a museum. $1600 total! Merry Christmas to me. So happy you made this video!
@danschneider9921
@danschneider9921 11 ай бұрын
There is a 1819 Hall in my wife's family that, according to family lore "wandered off" from a Army storehouse in the 1850s where it made its way with them to California in the 1860s.
@niclbicl
@niclbicl 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video loved every minute of it! Greetings from austria. Your videos are always amazing, you can fell the effort behind them.
@dennishall9173
@dennishall9173 11 ай бұрын
I love that rifle, it really was a interesting designed, thank you for keeping our love for the shooting spots alive and all the hard work you do to bring us the history with the most amazing truth
@johnhagerman320
@johnhagerman320 11 ай бұрын
What a beautiful piece of History!!! Thank you for sharing it
@M.M.83-U
@M.M.83-U 10 ай бұрын
This is wonderfull! Pre metallic cartridge breechloaders are soo fascinating.
@johannesmichaelalhaugthoma4215
@johannesmichaelalhaugthoma4215 10 ай бұрын
Outstanding video!! Excellent research and presentation!
@larrycable1948
@larrycable1948 10 ай бұрын
The two conversions that were the peak development of the Halls was the change to percussion caps and changing the cartridges to nitrated paper, also used in the early Sharps rifles. Priming was faster and more reliable and the nitrated cartridges didn't have to have the end tore off.
@larryclark9380
@larryclark9380 10 ай бұрын
Quite an amazing rifle! Thanks for posting such a quality video.
@glendanison3064
@glendanison3064 11 ай бұрын
What an outstanding channel.
@simonp1165
@simonp1165 10 ай бұрын
Awesome video and an very interesting gun, thanks :)
@samuelprice2461
@samuelprice2461 11 ай бұрын
In “My Confession,” Chamberlain describes US Dragoons in the Mexican War using the percussion action Hall carbines and rifles to great effect. In particular, he’s describes dragoons removing the chamber from the rifle and carrying it in his pocket like a pistol when he went on leave.
@capandball
@capandball 11 ай бұрын
That will be covered in the next part. ;) fun little experiment.
@derek45auto23
@derek45auto23 8 ай бұрын
Interesting book indeed
@allanburt5250
@allanburt5250 11 ай бұрын
Fascinating peace of history 👏
@adaw2d3222
@adaw2d3222 11 ай бұрын
Great video! I hope you can show the percussion cap version some day as it's clearly the next step for this type of breech loader not existing in the original design which is an obvious oversight in advancing the technology to the true next level.
@SearTrip
@SearTrip 11 ай бұрын
The terms are often used interchangeably, but if you go to Harpers Ferry, you find the Armory is where the production took place, while the Arsenal was a storage facility that was across the street. And, of course, the Hall Rifle Works was further upstream, a separate facility from the other two.
@capandball
@capandball 11 ай бұрын
yes, visiting the place is on my bucket list.
@mikebrase5161
@mikebrase5161 11 ай бұрын
​@@capandballdo it you won't regret it. They have a Blanchard Lathe display setup showing stock making. Fun fact, the Arsenal was setup at the location for two main reasons. One the ability for water power and two the abundance of Black Walnut in the area which was the US Army's preferred hardwood for musket and rifle stocks.
@brealistic3542
@brealistic3542 11 ай бұрын
Excellent idea for the time. I didn't know about it. Thanks. Seems to work well.
@CraigLYoung
@CraigLYoung 11 ай бұрын
Dang, it looks cold there. Thanks for sharing 👍
@samuelstambaugh5181
@samuelstambaugh5181 11 ай бұрын
Love it ! Very important rifle for the Seminole wars !
@jharchery4117
@jharchery4117 10 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@Diebulfrog79
@Diebulfrog79 11 ай бұрын
I love this video 👍
@thegunnut1944
@thegunnut1944 11 ай бұрын
Never been this early. Been looking forward to a video of the hall🙂
@millcreekrange
@millcreekrange 11 ай бұрын
Great Video Sir! 👍
@TMFShooting
@TMFShooting 11 ай бұрын
Wow '' Great Video 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
@danhubert-hx4ss
@danhubert-hx4ss 11 ай бұрын
Very interesting. IIRC US also used a rifle or musket with superimposed loads. Any vid on that perhaps?
@AtomHeartMother68
@AtomHeartMother68 10 ай бұрын
Interesting... with the vertical vent you can definitely hear it fusing on ignition. Not sure there's any way to prevent that with the design.
@richmereoutdoors8137
@richmereoutdoors8137 4 ай бұрын
I live in Maine and we have a lot of firearms manufacturing history here
@georgegordonmeade5663
@georgegordonmeade5663 11 ай бұрын
Super neat! How’d this beauty wind up in Hungary, I wonder. I’ve only seen a handful stateside.
@angelosusa4258
@angelosusa4258 3 ай бұрын
That is so cool
@silentseawolf
@silentseawolf 10 ай бұрын
I'm a big fan of the whole, interchangeable parts thingy... lol
@110665
@110665 11 ай бұрын
I've always wanted one of those. I do have Ferguson rifle that I built and its a neat and quick shooter. Have you ever shot one on your channel?
@capandball
@capandball 11 ай бұрын
Not yet, but that's on my bucket list.
@adamhauskins6407
@adamhauskins6407 10 ай бұрын
I find this to be the coolest weapon ever
@finlayfraser9952
@finlayfraser9952 10 ай бұрын
You don't seem to take any precautions against embers remaining from previous firings when reloading. Was this not a problem with small arms in the way that it was with artillery?
@janrobertbos
@janrobertbos 11 ай бұрын
...NICE!!!...as always...😀
@SwordTune
@SwordTune 7 ай бұрын
14:39 Perfect ad break
@skepticalbadger
@skepticalbadger 10 ай бұрын
Great video. North's first name was not Simon, however, but Simeon.
@paulstuhrenberg9165
@paulstuhrenberg9165 11 ай бұрын
Nice video
@calvingreene90
@calvingreene90 11 ай бұрын
You can achieve interchangeable parts the hand fitting to a jig.
@capandball
@capandball 11 ай бұрын
you can, but takes so much work it can't be cost effective. That was the experience from the 1777 musket.
@calvingreene90
@calvingreene90 11 ай бұрын
@@capandball It really shouldn't take more work than fitting the part to the gun.
@rre9121
@rre9121 10 ай бұрын
You love to hear a story where a technically adept person gets to do a good job of their passion.
@vulpsturm
@vulpsturm 11 ай бұрын
Very good video. I kind of hoped you would have fired the breech mechanism like a pistol like that legend of the soldier in the Mexican wars did.
@capandball
@capandball 11 ай бұрын
will be in the next part
@vulpsturm
@vulpsturm 11 ай бұрын
@@capandball Oh, I was just being a jackass but that's amazing. I'm definitely going to watch!
@raduradu24
@raduradu24 11 ай бұрын
Imagine if this types of flintlock breech loading guns where used more
@GeorgeMerl
@GeorgeMerl 11 ай бұрын
How hot does the breach get as you fire it? It seems having to push the ball in with your fingers could get pretty uncomfortable
@capandball
@capandball 11 ай бұрын
It was uncomfortable because the breech was designed to be loaded with a naked ball. I did not notice the rifle getting hot. The most shots I fired in a row was 10 so you definitely need more to overheat the action.
@VeraTR909
@VeraTR909 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful design, the best you can do without mass produced center-fire cartridges
@jeffyoung60
@jeffyoung60 10 ай бұрын
The American Army Hall breechloader saw action in the Mexican War of 1846-48 on a limited basis. Anecdotes survived claiming that some soldiers armed with the Hall would remove the breech which contained the hammer, striker, and trigger when they were out on liberty. They would carry the breech block like a pocket pistol or single-shot derringer for personal protection. It was good caution. The U.S. Army stopped along the way in numerous Mexican towns that did not take kindly to the Yankee invaders. American soldiers on liberty wishing to walk the dark streets of a Mexican town to the local cantina for beer, whiskey and Mexican women were wise to be armed. A knife was a good start, but a pocket pistol was far better immediate personal defense against a knifeman jumping out of the darkness from an alleyway. Something tells me that if a soldier was going to use the Hall breechblock as a defensive pocket pistol, it would be wise not to load the entire black powder charge into it. Perhaps all that was needed was half the gunpowder from the paper cartridge. And if the soldier could get ahold of it, loading three or four, 1/4 inch buckshot balls would be easier than cramming down a full-size bullet would be difficult to unload later on when the soldier returned to barracks.
@Jagdtyger2A
@Jagdtyger2A 10 ай бұрын
I always thought that the Hall rifle upgraded to percussion or tube lock and loaded with a mine cartridge would have been a very fast and accurate weapon for the time
@adamhauskins6407
@adamhauskins6407 10 ай бұрын
It actually was
@rebaz.hn_04
@rebaz.hn_04 11 ай бұрын
I like your videos bro❤
@JarodFarrant
@JarodFarrant 11 ай бұрын
Do they make special units for this rifle?
@capandball
@capandball 11 ай бұрын
Opposite: the special units (light infantry, mounted rifles and dragoons) existed before the special rifle was designed for them.
@MrGourdman1
@MrGourdman1 9 ай бұрын
I think it would be a great story if you would tell how you obtain one of these in Europe! They’re hard enough to fight in the USA.
@NomadShadow1
@NomadShadow1 11 ай бұрын
Neat
@willf5768
@willf5768 11 ай бұрын
Hey you didn't demonstrate the horse back loading 😊
@capandball
@capandball 11 ай бұрын
:) now that would make a perfect content :) Capandball on horseback... :D
@robertrobert7924
@robertrobert7924 11 ай бұрын
Maybe he will do that in another video dressed in his US Dragoon uniform ?
@nickdavis5420
@nickdavis5420 10 ай бұрын
What could have been if American government actually innovated conversion of this as a standard long arm for the army would have been great .
@MarekDohojda
@MarekDohojda 11 ай бұрын
Is it me, or does this looks actually slower then a regular muzzle loader? Also excellent video, as always.
@capandball
@capandball 11 ай бұрын
Rifle is fast, Capandball is slow. I load a musket in 30 sec, while I can load this in 15-20 sec. The mad minute challenge will be included in the next chapter.
@MarekDohojda
@MarekDohojda 11 ай бұрын
@@capandball Ahh! It looked like you had to really struggle with shoving the cartridge in, while I've seen your other muzzle loaders where you were able, with same type of paper cartridge to be really smooth and fast. I know you did say that the paper was too thick so that makes sense, but still seemed more awkward, especially at the end, where you had to be sure there was no too much paper for the bridge to close. Still amazingly cool rifle! The system is very interesting, and loved watching how that worked. The Rifle is in such an amazing condition, given it's age, I am jealous! :)
@davefellhoelter1343
@davefellhoelter1343 11 ай бұрын
almost no visible gasses I could see leaked from breach, and I watched and paused a few times! IMPRESSIVE!
@capandball
@capandball 11 ай бұрын
There is a 980 frame per sec recording at the end: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6uVYnV5i52hg68si=bFhGNZ70TExHowdi&t=1597
@davefellhoelter1343
@davefellhoelter1343 11 ай бұрын
AMEN! ""IMPRESSIVE!""@@capandball
@erstugs
@erstugs 11 ай бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍
@dustinh4175
@dustinh4175 11 ай бұрын
We need a hunting video with it.
@capandball
@capandball 11 ай бұрын
I am on it.
@emeteriosilva6901
@emeteriosilva6901 10 ай бұрын
Buen rifle pero muy pesado..
@texas66
@texas66 11 ай бұрын
Be careful how you describe the firearms you review. Made for the military, new technology, more than double the rate of fire.... sounds like an "assault rifle"! 😬😉 Be sure to let everyone know when you start your first Headstamp Publishing book so I can get in on the crowdfunding!
@capandball
@capandball 11 ай бұрын
That time will come!
@jeffyoung60
@jeffyoung60 10 ай бұрын
It still looks like it takes a long time to reload and set up. The only real advantage I saw is that the Hall could be easily reloaded in a kneeling or prone position. It wasn't until the advent of the metallic cartridge that reloading was considerably speeded up. The early metallic cartridge single-shot rifles allowed for 8 to 12 well-aimed shots as opposed to 3 well-aimed shots with a percussion muzzle-loading black powder rifle. So even a slow-firing infantry soldier going for 8 shots per minute still rated almost three times the firepower of a black powder percussion cap muzzle loading rifle. This Hall rifle looks like it too maxes out at three, well-aimed shots per minute. I keep writing, 'well-aimed' because just pointing and shooting a rifle is a waste of ammunition. You need to take the additional time to, acquire the target, line up the front and rear sights, steady the aim, and press the trigger in a controlled manner. Firing four shots per minute, for example, in the Union Army, was done primarily for training purposes and to instill the loading process so mentally firmly that the soldier did not think about it but acted on muscle memory, thus making no mistakes. Union generals knew that it only three shots per minute was practical but without the four-shots-per-minute rapid load and fire drill, soldiers would not be ingrained to the procedure. Hence it might be only two, even one shot per minute with a nervous, poorly-trained soldier.
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