The Harder They Fall reviewed by Mark Kermode

[@alexhall7584]

The set in this movie looks just like a set

[@SquirrelNutkins]

I think that was the point. All the vivid colours. In your face.

[@m.worthy]

There are three different towns _(which each look different - Douglastown being the shabby frontier hole)_ and several different natural non-Redwood locations and *"sets"* _(plural)_ throughout the movie. Redwood was but one "set"/location _(an intentionally "colorful" town, literally & figuratively)._ Douglasville was absolutely _"worn & lived in"_ , mangy, and a ramshackle.

[@sanai97]

@@SquirrelNutkins well, I agree that things were probably more clean that shown. But it's way too much. Look at how the night looks.

[@Lexyboogie]

Better than Django unchained???? I’m about to pass out from this take.

[@DaveChappeleIsGod]

I have a feeling he wasn't saying objectively, but based on him saying 'Django made me uncomfortable, at points' that he just liked it better, and considering it was copying Tarantino's style a bit (haven't seen the movie, just based off their description) that it was similar but less about the racism and more about showing that the 'Western' period of history was a bit more diverse than you've been shown in movies before.

[@Dolencd]

I'm not. I think Tarantino is vastly over glorified. I believe that his movies, when you remove overly stylized violence, good music and ridiculous plot twists have very little left to offer. I'm not saying he's bad, or that this film is better than Django, I'm just saying he's definitely not in none of my top 10 directors of all time conversations as a lot of media is trying to put him in.

[@bigtony1434]

@@Dolencd I agree. Some of his writing is really great but in so many of his films every character talks in the exact same obnoxious, overly well-spoken way.

[@-Osiris-]

You can never go wrong with Delroy Lindo

[@mandead]

Does he normally play Americans or is it just my memory? I looked him up and immediately recognised him, but I had no idea he was British.

[@-Osiris-]

@@mandead I've only ever known him to play Americans, he moved to the states decades ago

[@RonMexico7]

@@-Osiris- it makes sense because after 50 years the accent starts to rub off lol. He sounds completely American now in interviews too.

[@lawnbank]

In ANY context!

[@AllInTheGame01]

Should have been Oscar nominated for his Da 5 Bloods performance!

[@kingchamed]

Good film i felt it could be much better plot-wise.. Soundtrack was awesome

[@unclemay6648]

i didnt enjoy the soundtrack (however there was moments that could have been great, but art is subjective so nobody wrong)

[@m.worthy]

*Another new Western...* 🤠 📽🎬 🐎 *'OLD HENRY'* _(released this month, Oct.1, 2021 - also via Amazon Prime)._ Starring *Tim Blake Nelson* 🤠 Oct.22: 95% Tomatometer score, 92% audience score

[@nedeast6845]

I once read a book called "British Gentlemen of the Wild West", it is the story of how some titled families in Britain sent their spare sons off to Wyoming in the 1860's to drive cattle, a sort of gap year experience for them on the Goodnight-Loving trail, I thought this could make a movie (I think the author is Lawrence Woods)

[@fragr33f74]

Wow that's actually fascinating

[@L_Martin]

strange comment to leave under this film in particular 🤔

[@alandoyle8880]

@@L_Martin why? A good excuse for another western film you can’t have too many in my eyes 👀 I love a western. I just watched the harder they fall and it’s awesome.

[@1funkyflyguy]

@@L_Martin Yeah, why???

[@registame2878]

@@L_Martin was thinking the same thing 😆

[@caelanelsey4978]

Not super deep perhaps, but had a fantastic time with this. Seeing it on a cinema screen helped I imagine, I’d seek it out before it goes on Netflix. Loved the dialogue between the characters too, some really clever and funny exchanges.

[@m.worthy]

👍🏼You're absolutely right about seeing it on a cinema screen _before_ it is on Netflix. Glad I did. 🎬 📽 🎞

[@m.worthy]

.....Also with you on the dialogue between the characters! 😁🎬📽

[@Andy15991]

Why do mainstream media always automatically praise a film that has a majority black cast even though its not that good? They did it with Black Panther and more recently Candyman. We can still criticise films that aim to bring equality to the movie industry, it doesnt make us racist!

[@meditationescape6399]

Have you watched this film. It's good as well as black panther. Candyman was a little question

[@kingtchalla2289]

Black Panther was a triumph!

[@kingtchalla2289]

@@RaveyDavey In your opinion, clearly other people didn't agree.

[@kingtchalla2289]

@@RaveyDavey Why are you placing such high value on Rotten Tomatoes? If people think Black Panther is better than the Godfather or Lawrence of Arabia, it's their prerogative. Art and food are subjective buddy, clearly you don't understand that. Instead of comparing Black Panther to classic cinema compare it to the genre it belongs to which is the superhero category. With that genre people are more inclined to suspend their disbelief so yes an advanced country in Africa who is still ruled by a monarchy can exist. The real question is, why are you willing to suspend your disbelief for white movies but not black ones?

[@tehf00n]

Watched this last night. It was very good. Cinematography, music, acting, comedy, the job lot. Best western I've seen since Magnificent 7 remake.

[@registame2878]

With you there. Looks built for a sequel and some origin stories

[@NFawc]

Wow! That's the cleanest looking wild west I've ever seen!

[@m.worthy]

@Neil But have you actually _"seen"_ it (no answer necessary). Things don't stay too clean once the action starts! 📽🎬🤠🐎

[@NFawc]

@@m.worthy Maybe so, but clothes, people, building and even the ground, all just look spotless... Hmmm...

[@m.worthy]

You saw teasers/trailers... I've actually seen the entire movie on a cinema screen/in theater. Sure, everyone isn't covered in dust throughout _every frame_ of the film, but for the somewhat light-hearted, heavy action, fun time that it is, things get dirty & absolutely bloody. Start to conclusion.

[@m.worthy]

Say whatever you need to say to attempt to disparage something you apparently haven't even seen. In the teasers/trailers alone you see U.S. troops wearing post-Civil War specific uniforms, and throughout the movie the various characters, extras, weapons, towns...everything...are just as period appropriate as in any other Western I've ever seen. Not even the reviewers in this video, who've actually watched the movie, are making up ignorant (reaching) comments, yet based on what you need to tell yourself you've prejudged something and imagined a film where the cast wears spotless tuxedos throughout, Gucci, Nike, shoots Benelli M4s, and the characters all drive German luxury vehicles. Casting...Set design...Any of the cast members (as depicted throughout the film), could look like someone from the time period the movie takes place within. There are also multiple locations and sets throughout the film, which would fit in any Western ever created. But no, you need to create fallacies as if the movie was instead filmed on-location at Marina Bay Sands, Singapore or inside the Mall of Qatar. Jaymes Samuel, the producers, and all involved have successfully created something which I have reason to imagine you have never created yourself (and won't). Based off of the ignorant comment you spouted, I can't imagine you've even seen the movie. Here we see Kermode and Mayo reviewing something they actually watched (and enjoyed!), and one doesn't hear them making up bs like the ignorance you've put forth.

[@captainjasper]

It’s a stylised vision. It’s not supposed to be accurate. Thought that was pretty obvious.

[@sunshineTV3]

way too clean for a western. nothing looks worn and lived in.

[@m.worthy]

...until the story progresses and things aren't clean and things do look worn and lived in. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGa8nYeVgJiqj6s The main city in the movie is a textile town. Many Westerns show citizens who are dressed decently or (some) elaborately. Redwood is a city with multiple businesses...The movie doesn't take place on a farm or open range where cattle hands are the focus. Countless Westerns have cities and towns where the populace don't look or dress like ranchers and aren't covered in dust/dirt all day & night: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXq7q62epd1rpJY

[@aryankaushik93]

I agree

[@onion_wind]

Yep, shiny garbage.

[@m.worthy]

There are three different towns _(which each look different - Douglastown being the shabby frontier hole)_ and several different natural non-Redwood locations throughout the movie. Redwood was but one location _(an intentionally "colorful" town, literally & figuratively)._ Douglasville was absolutely _"worn and lived in"_ , mangy, and a ramshackle.

[@onion_wind]

@@m.worthy my favourite thing about the towns is you can clearly see the set in the background and that the buildings are just 2 dimensional.

[@m.worthy]

Having watched the movie Oct.23, in a cinema, it is as good or more entertaining as many of the flawed Westerns that have been praised throughout the past coupla decades. It ain't no _'The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford'_ (in terms of a moody/solemn artistic achievement), but I enjoyed it as much or more than various Westerns such as 'The Long Riders', 'Tombstone', 'Appaloosa', '3:10 to Yuma', 'Old Henry', etc.... 'The Harder They Fall' was well executed _(script, dialogue, camera techniques/cinematography, the acting, and the score/soundscapes!)_ . My girl and I had a great/fun time watching it in the cinema and after it concluded, it was obvious that the diverse audience we shared the experience with were also pleased with what they watched and how they'd spent their time & money. We enjoyed it.

[@husbandryenvy433]

Did you work on this production? Is this why you are trying to sell it so hard? I agree with you that it's no 'The Assassination of Jesse James..........' but it is also no 'Tombstone' either. It's a middle of the road Netflix release is all. Nothing truly memorable about it.

[@m.worthy]

It isn't about tryin' to _"sell"_ anything, but if I knew you and someone rumored that _you often pushed old people down stairs, stole from children, had 10 bloodied gold knives, and hung out with questionable Catholic priests_ , if I actually knew you and knew those comments were lies or things said to mislead, cause prejudice, and sully your character, I'd probably say something if I heard the mischaracterizations, and/or straight up lies (in part by many who never even met you before). Meanwhile, I have zero regard for the mass of non-quality Netflix offerings. That said, for many *_'The Harder They Fall'_* will be as positively regarded (and remembered) as other better movies on Netflix, which were also first limited theater releases _prior_ to being available to stream via Netflix _('The Irishman', 'The King', etc.)._ *_'The Harder They Fall'_* apparently won't be "memorable" for you, but it is already (and will be) memorable to a world filled with other voices who enjoyed/loved it _(some even more than 'the likes of 'Tombstone')_ and will also be welcoming of it should there be a sequel (as seemingly hinted at)...📽🤠💥🐎🎬 Nah, as I said, this *_Jeymes Samuel_* creation is not *_'The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford'_* (another favorite of mine), because it was meant to mean something else, be something else, have its own tones, and do something else. _All which it greatly succeeded at._ 📽🤠💥🐎🎬

[@FrankChafe]

I came into this movie wanting it to succeed. The quality of the actors and characters alone is worth the price of admission. Overall I have 4 issues with the film. First, too many characters. Could have cut the number in half, given more time for each and develop them out so that we feel emotionally connected and invested in them and told the same story and saved characters for a sequel. Second, the Redwood City Set looked exactly like that, a set. The church and the sheriffs house at the opposite end of the street looked and felt artificial. With a couple of unnecessary lens flares, these 2 elements cheapened what was otherwise a wonderfully shot movie and took me out of the story and action as a result. Third, the music occasionally was both great, and seemed artificial. Lastly, plot driven accuracy in the gun fights was way too obvious. With some people almost firing in slow motion compared to the hero or villain respectively or missing repeatedly and then hitting every single shot when its called for. This is something that's a huge pet peeve, especially when its obvious like in this show. I in the end enjoyed it and will probably watch it again, which means it couldn't have been that bad. But, I feel some easy fixes could have made it significantly better.

[@nkosinathishazi2657]

This is a great review 🔥

[@Helixium08]

Lol, ya this movie was good fun, but it really even took some inspiration from the "conveniences" some old westerns had themselves.

[@registame2878]

Good insight. I think it was pretty good for the london boys first ride

[@Rammyfications]

I absolutely love it when she says "You here for your damsel in distress?" at 2:25. Love her accent and delivery. This film looks good!

[@m.worthy]

🍎 Wait until you hear her *_("Treacherous" Gertrude Smith/ Regina King)_* tell the story she tells while peeling an apple. 😳🍎

[@peliayahyisrael3254]

The difference with Tarintino is a black person I didnt have to endure having to hearing ni##r over and over again. Regina put an end to that culture before the train driver could utter 'ger'. I stood up an applauded with my family. Triumph long live King.

[@greatpoochini1]

Listening to this I was reminded of The Quick And The Dead.

[@BHCha-]

I want to see Dune again but I do also want to watch this.

[@m.worthy]

*TRIVIA:* *Jonathan Majors* _('The Harder They Fall')_ and *Timothée Chalamet* _('Dune')_ are both in the 2017 Western movie *_'HOSTILES'_* starring Christian Bale.

[@joannetiu471]

Idris Elba alone is worth viewing any movie he's in. This movie was fun camp but Idris brought the emotion too. And Regina King's eyes, accent and overall understated performance is something to behold.

[@jakqatif]

Lakieth Stanfield is ammmmazing as always, u don't know if u should like him or despise him !! Awesome Movie

[@m.worthy]

*Beckwourth:* _"All comes down to who fast and who ain't, right?"_ *Cherokee Bill:* *_"No, it all comes down to who's alive and who's dead."_* 😳🎯🚷 _Crawford Goldsby/"Cherokee Bill"_ as portrayed by *LaKeith* was not thinking about if he'd win or lose in a draw *_("Is that what you think this is?")._* That character's entire method of operation was "NO RULES APPLY". He was all about eliminating opposition ASAP and by any means. _From putting up fists only to slice an adversaries legs..informing a kid that he is the Cherokee Bill who shoots people in the mouth for talking too much..to shooting opposition in the back_ , Cherokee Bill's approac, jaded outlook, and belief was _eliminate threats, no talking, no hesitation, self preservation..._ Jaded. *_"It all comes down to who's alive and who's dead."_* 🎯

[@TWW-zk9gw]

@@m.worthy this sub plot was my least favourite part of the film. I couldn't get over how naively Beckwourth behaved. the whole quick draw duel takes a lot of suspending your disbelief for in itself. the way this one's portrayed is just silly. belongs in Blazing Saddles.

[@m.worthy]

Live long enough and you'll come across plenty of "naive" people. You didn't care for the subplot or scene. Cool. Others liked it, and the "message" conveyed via Beckwourth's demise. The scene itself coulda just as easily fit into the _"I'm your huckleberry"_ realm ('Tombstone') : kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqKXp3SifaZlsJY ...and I'm sure that for many people, they'll remember (and appreciate) that _"enter the mouth, exit the cranium"_ scene and the meaning of the "illustration". You didn't care for it. Understood. Cool.

[@SquirrelNutkins]

@@TWW-zk9gw I think perhaps you were taking the film too seriously? It had its tongue firmly in its cheek the whole way through.

[@jonathanmelia]

Everything looks too clean.

[@m.worthy]

Not after the first few minutes. Nah...Things don't stay _"too clean"_ when the action starts! 🎬🤠💥🐎📽

[@m.worthy]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGa8nYeVgJiqj6s The main city in the movie is a textile town. Many Westerns show citizens who are dressed decently or (some) elaborately. Redwood is a city with multiple businesses...The movie doesn't take place on a farm or open range where cattle hands are the focus. Countless Westerns have cities and towns where the populace don't look or dress like ranchers and aren't covered in dust/dirt all day & night: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXq7q62epd1rpJY

[@egeg5428]

you have to see the white town lol

[@m.worthy]

There are three different towns _(which each look different - Douglastown being the shabby frontier hole)_ and several different natural non-Redwood locations throughout the movie. Redwood was but one location _(an intentionally "colorful" town, literally & figuratively)._ Douglasville was absolutely _"worn & lived in"_ , mangy, and a ramshackle.

[@nomilktoday10]

That's the point

[@markhutton6824]

Watched it home, having missed it in the cinema. My wife loved Django Unchained, which I had so many issues with. At pivotal moments she was screaming at the TV regarding a persons actions or intent. She puts it above Django Unchained... but below Once Upon a Time in the West and The Good, The Bad and the Ugly... which for me redeems her liking Django Unchained and I have to agree Westerns aren't live long in the thought process, apart perhaps for Sergio's work. I loved The Harder They Fall and would happily watch it again... and it is in my top five Westerns, I have some cheese with John Wayne... for some reason I love El Dorado... sorry but I do.

[@madianhaidar2549]

why dont u like django ?

[@richardextall2002]

Still can't get over Mark's review of the 2016 Ghost Busters...

[@nevem5010]

I love a western, deep or shallow! Looking forward to seeing this 👍.

[@m.worthy]

I saw the movie Saturday afternoon (Oct.23, 2021) at a cinema. Not that "Tomatometers" & "Audience Scores" of 80+ % should be something that you put your faith in, but having just watched the movie it is as good or more entertaining as many of the flawed Westerns that have been praised throughout the past coupla decades. It ain't no _'The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford'_ (in terms of a moody/solemn artistic achievement), but I enjoyed it as much or more than various Westerns such as 'The Long Riders', 'Tombstone', 'Appaloosa', '3:10 to Yuma', 'Old Henry', etc....'The Harder They Fall' was well executed _(script, dialogue, camera techniques/cinematography, the acting, and the score/soundscapes!)_ . My girl and I had a great time watching it in the cinema and after it concluded, it was obvious that the diverse audience we shared the experience with were also pleased with what they watched and how they'd spent their time & money. We enjoyed it.

[@Lee_Forre]

What is Marks ridiculous grudge with Tarantino? He gives this mediocre, boring film better marks than Django? Really? Simon too? Django is in another class, let alone another Universe than this pretentious film.

[@motherplayer]

Always need those little reminders from critics you may like that you won't always agree with them. I still think he was way off the mark with "The Father". Stuff like that is surprising to see from someone of his years criticizing, yet it happens. Good too, because it's nice to feel like we can say that. Also, feel you on the same way there on QT.

[@baddogmtv]

Each to their own. I never wanted to watch Kill Bill again or Django, but i loved Jackie Brown and Once upon a time in hollywood. I know its different for other people, i doesnt bother me, thats why movies are great to talk about.

[@muckmuckthageneral2691]

Great flick, one of the better ones I've seen this year.

[@06dking]

Saw the first 25 minutes and the film looks and feels like a stage play instead of an actual film. It does not feel one bit authentic and is very cosplayish.

[@blacksabbathmatters]

Pretty spot on with the 25 minutes...thats all i needed to see as well.

[@jameeyg87]

I agree... it felt like a lot of nothing going on and people speaking in cliches.

[@mlynxguitar]

that's.... the point

[@listenmullahsb]

Ha... the first clip they showed in this review shows its a stage play... too clean... the Church looks likes a fake set... clothes are brand new with tags still attached... no western greasyness at all.

[@SquirrelNutkins]

I think some viewers of this film missed the whole pastiche of this movie. It took every western we’ve ever seen and got rid of the whiteness (except for the obvious joke town). Yes the sets looked fake. OTT colours. Flat looking church etc. I didn’t see that as a mistake but as very deliberate. Shoot outs and plots all crazy because that’s what westerns have been traditionally. I wonder if the same people would bemoan the excessive force that flew people across the rooms/streets in Desperado too?

[@m.worthy]

🎯

[@SquirrelNutkins]

@Léon Rififi I saw the opposite. It totally had its tongue in its cheek the whole time.

[@cathalmeenagh3898]

Spot on, Squirrel.

[@unclemay6648]

okay few things that bothered me, Idris getting released as the execute the soldiers and all those bullet casings hitting the ground as he walks? wtf was that, i mean its literally raining shells and they using six shooters. The Army had to drop the riffles now those would expend empty casings after being cocked to fire another shot but they would have had to pick up the riffles during the execution. so nope the casing are not raining due to a couple of guys lucky enough to pick up the riffle and shoot by the time they shot at point blank. Next the six shooters dont eject used shells like a dam glock would so this really pulled me out of the movie and made it a stupid scene for me. Next we see the Saloon what's her name owns and runs. so you telling me they got Black light areas and luxury synthetic leather booths?? come on again this pulled me out of the movie. Then some of the actors did a great job creating old western lingo and accents while others just created 1970's Blaxploitation jive mixed with modern thuggen hood speak, again removing me from moments of the time period. Also lots of characters was real but ethnic swap from Native indian gang to a black gang whooops oh well history is optional in a period piece like this lol. Also everyone is well dressed and very clean, i mean its the west need some grittiness. And then the all white town was painted so white and clean it almost made me hurl lol but yea i get it, Blaxploitation is back baby. All that said i enjoyed most the movie for what it is a popcorn eating good time with good punchlines and one liners. but key moments wrecked it for me so my score is 5 outa 10. (Loved the Marshal though, in the grand finale he stole the show for me.)

[@m.worthy]

Sign the petition for Tarantino's *_DJANGO & ZORRO_* 📽🤠🐎

[@danieljamieson5012]

How about Woody Strode?

[@lonzellowe9101]

I enjoyed harder they fall 1000* better than Django

[@usedfuzzbox]

That is some bad looking green screen in that clip though :(

[@DavidBeaumont]

I don't think that's green screen (why bother to green screen someone in front of a black background?). It's just backlit and combined with KZbin compression gives an unfortunately similar effect.

[@22Wook]

@@DavidBeaumont I agree. Perhaps it is the compression, but the scene does seem to be oddly lit. Not sure that those lamps down the sides of the street would be kicking out quite as much light as is suggested - it's almost like they are under floodlights.

[@m.worthy]

@David Beaumont Yes, it looks like the same set shown during day-light hours ☀️. I'd actually thought the white church⛪ was possibly 100% a facade (¿no roof, no sides?), but then during the huge final shoot out (day-time☀️), there are a coupla aerial type views from the sniper vantage point of Bill Pickett (Edi Gathegi) where viewers can see part of the roof and a side of the church. ⛪

[@dalriadaskillen]

Sets its stall out from almost the beginning on the use of the n word. Nincompoops we all are. One of the key differences between this film and Django Unchained. I agree, owes a huge debt to Tarantino though in terms of style at least, not in script writing. The actors all delivered.

[@peliayahyisrael3254]

I politely disagree. Did you not watch '' Speghetti Western" they were 'bad'

[@registame2878]

He is seals brother; my word. This guys has far to much pedigree

[@Jjr420]

I'd be interested in asking the guy on the right what made him so uncomfortable watching Django as opposed to this. Django is a far superior movie to this is every way.

[@egeg5428]

this in par with Django I think

[@brendanlittle2498]

If you like a western like Tombstone you’ll like this. Really great time watching a movie.

[@danieljamieson5012]

No acknowledgement of posse then Mark?

[@youloveboxing]

He mentioned van peebles

[@tonycooper1777]

Yes sir I can't wait to see it👍

[@m.worthy]

I saw the movie Saturday afternoon (Oct.23, 2021) at a cinema. Not that "Tomatometers" & "Audience Scores" of 80+ % should be something that you put your faith in, but having just watched the movie it is as good or more entertaining as many of the flawed Westerns that have been praised throughout the past coupla decades. It ain't no _'The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford'_ (in terms of a moody/solemn artistic achievement), but I enjoyed it as much or more than various Westerns such as 'The Long Riders', 'Tombstone', 'Appaloosa', '3:10 to Yuma', 'Old Henry', etc....'The Harder They Fall' was well executed _(script, dialogue, camera techniques/cinematography, the acting, and the score/soundscapes!)_ . My girl and I had a great time watching it in the cinema and after it concluded, it was obvious that the diverse audience we shared the experience with were also pleased with what they watched and how they'd spent their time & money. We enjoyed it.

[@yasielromero8236]

I'm sold, watching it in theaters tonight

[@pbnmy_photodrive8087]

His interview sold it to me. I thought it was great

[@m.worthy]

*POSSIBLE SEQUEL/SPIN-OFF...* 🎩 ? Jeymes Samuel: *_"..Alas, here we are...I'll always be heading back to 'Harder They Fall' territory...much bigger story...prequel, sequel if I can...even further."_* kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXK9qqJ_grmnaaM

[@markogorman8448]

Cool looking film good not a classic but entertaining great cast

[@denisa.6782]

I found this movie a little messy I don’t know why

[@userjim83]

Was super excited after the first 5 minutes that an old school western with a modern flavour had been made. Sad to say after those 5 minutes it went down hill fast and didn’t recover.

[@yingyingseah3294]

I think kermode viewed it too superficially, he didn’t get the inter-communal, intergenerational violence that tears an already segregated community apart. It is deeper than django, which was a typical good v bad revenge drama (freed slave is good, slave owners are bad of course). All the characters are quite grey, fun, interesting, not perfectly good. The whole point was that it was “fun” but upsetting that they were spending were attacking communities that did good/ innocent people and how that begets violence and trauma as well.

[@JoseJose-ih4zi]

Worst film I watched in 2021, I stop watching it after 1h couldn’t stand it anymore. That’s how subjective are films.

[@imspartacus4909]

three of us saw this last night what a load of crap , avoid at all costs ,just glad i didnt pay to see it and this was the view of all of us ,i would describe all that was wrong but a. that would take way too long and b. its not worth wasting my breath on , absolutly no stars what so ever

[@michaelcope856]

An incredible waste of a fabulous cast. No empathy, no substance, no narrative sense, and chewed-up, spat-out incomprehensible dialogue. Better than Django Unchained!!?

[@ccampbell02yt]

Yeaaaah, I couldn't believe my ears. Talk about paint by numbers and it all just looked so clean and shiny. I mean, I guess if that's what you're going for but ultimately I found it more distracting than anything else.

[@NFawc]

Must admit the trailer makes me grimace with folks just killing innocents for the kicks, and then these folks are seemingly being pushed as the 'heroes' of the film. Hopefully the film isn't doing that because it doesn't sit well with me. I'm clearly too delicate.

[@m.worthy]

The characters in trailers that you see "killing innocents" are not the _"heroes"_ of the movie. That group is the Rufus Buck gang, and they are the main antagonists throughout the film. Kinda in the vein of the actual outlaw Rufus Buck gang (and Cherokee Bill)...There are actual "heroes" and/or at least protagonists who do collude with Deputy U.S. Marshal Bass Reeves _(Delroy Lindo)._

[@NFawc]

@@m.worthy Ah, good. The trailer left me concerned cold blooded murderers were being lauded.

[@m.worthy]

Yeah, I even questioned that _before_ I actually watched the movie. Also those soldiers which the "bad guys" kill, well, to put things in context, that particular group of soldiers had done some unlawful/unpleasant things to the "innocent" citizens of a town. The U.S. government/authorities wanted those troops to be dealt with. So, "bad guys" kill bad guys 💡. Something else casual viewers can't discern from seconds of a teaser/trailer for a 2(+)-hour movie. Context.

[@NFawc]

@@m.worthy All sounding positive... Good.

[@m.worthy]

🎯 👍🏻

[@Esi153]

I saw this at the London Film Festival and loved it. It has to be seen on the big screen. I also agree that it's better than Django Unchained.

[@SmartDave60]

Bloody good🙂

[@228ss]

Main Course: The Harder They Fall Dessert: The Outlaw Johnny Black

[@aryankaushik93]

Looks so unreal

[@SquirrelNutkins]

Kind of the point.

[@aryankaushik93]

@@SquirrelNutkins lol

[@tonyparkin3379]

I lasted 20mins. Then had to turn this off. Not a patch on 3:10 to Yuma Or the mighty Django. All style over substance.

[@jacobharris954]

A movie produced by Hova

[@m.worthy]

Shawn Carter was not the only producer..........

[@charliearblaster]

Hello

[@bonzibunnei]

Did Sergio's westerns have great depth? IT. IS. A. WESTERN. come on!

[@derrick7648]

I liked this but I kept getting "bootleg Django" vibes and some of it was overly stylistic in a direct copy of Tarantino's whole style, except not as well done. Like if you're gonna rip something off you gotta be able to do it BETTER, not just good.

[@egeg5428]

hey Tarantino borrows a lot from blaxploitation, this is the pure blaxploitation movie

[@kingtchalla2289]

Tarantino's entire career is a bootleg.

[@lloydjacobson1812]

Johnathan Majors performance was incredible and kept the movie watchable the rest of the acting was pathetic.

[@deplant5998]

This is a terrible and boring movie. 1/5

[@howardvausefilms1214]

"You don't look like someone who's hard of hearing"... what, like clutching a big ear trumpet? Naff script and weak storytelling. Great soundtrack.

[@registame2878]

Nice try 😆 nincompoop

[@j0k3rday]

this movie full of blatant inaccuracies the became movies funny. just a few: lots and lots of gold plated guns. , main song is all about how fast the singer can shoot this ' Glock 17' ,complete disregard on how guns work and are engineered . example : bad guys executing soldiers on a train with single action revolvers in slow mo. and keep switching scenes too empty brass hitting the floor as is from a automatic pistols. for real lol , the bank money was modern dollar bills ...... this movie would make a good drinking game movie .. you have to drink every time you spot inaccuracies

[@m.worthy]

Revolvers don't eject spent shell casings, but your comment has _"blatant"_ lies. ▪️ There are no _modern U.S. dollar bills_ in the movie. ▪️ There are not "lots and lots of gold plated guns" in the movie. The lead villian character _(Rufus Buck)_ his two pistols with gold-plating, which are only shown at the start and towards the conclusion of a _2 hour & 17 or so minute_ fictional Western. There is also a brashly over-confident braggadocious young character _(Jim Beckworth)_ who has two pistols with _only the cylinder part_ of each seemingly gold-plated. Absolutely fits that character's youthful self-confidence (or arrogance). Beyond those two examples, there are no gold-plated guns in this Western _('The Harder They Fall')_ with "lots and lots" of guns, and certainly not a gold-plated gun that is shown throughout the entire movie. Spent shell casings comment aside _(apparently a visual for stylized entertainment theatrics!)_ , *you're misleading at best, and lying at worst.*

[@mrharry448]

I just know that Idris Elba is going to pull me out of it with his unfortunate hammy presence as usual.

[@shelbyvillerules9962]

He was arguably the only half decent thing in the movie although his overall screen time amounted to probably about ten minutes.

[@kadiummusic]

So it's fiction then..... duh!

[@petesmudger9516]

Nah, there was a time when I cared about your opinion Mark.

[@Kalel2016]

It was the review for Coming to America 2 that did it for me. He seems to have sold his soul, pretty much a talking mouthpiece at the moment.

[@HonorableSienna]

🤗

[@rFuzzyBearX]

Idris ruined it !

[@listenmullahsb]

The BLM Western.

[@GAMINGWEEKLYJJ]

I thought this film was awful, opened really well and gave us good reason to get behind the protagonist but it was shortly after this when our guy was beaten up by his ex and then put in cuffs twice! This really took away from his cool’ness shall we say. Although it was nice to see the cast of ‘This Christmas’ back together

[@michaellittle226]

It was worth watching but as a western genre addict i found this movie to be comical and silly to the point of Ridiculousness.

[@zaprese]

Idris Elba has no menace. Regina Kings accent is off putting sometimes.

[@tus2521]

Don't go and see this

[@Alexorrable]

It’s a total mess, couldn’t finish watching it.

[@Locolano1]

Black western? No thanks. I like Westerns to be somewhat believable.

[@202maddy]

First view here