The Hardest Commodore 64 Games Ever Made!!!

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Old Style Gaming

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Hey Whatsup guys its OSG here with a brand new video… a few days ago I decided to make a hardest Commodore 64 games video…but as with a lot of the 8bit machines there are an abundance of hard games on this system.
So what I think is hard may not be deemed as hard by the masses of C64 fans out there…so the solution was to ask the guys themselves on the C64 Facebook page…well I was inundated with suggestions within the first 48 hours…. Well over 100 ….but I only wanted 20 so I’ve played and whittled them down to what I would say are the hardest of the lot…. Mostly we are talking hard difficulty..some fall into the bad controls category though as you will see and the top 10 fall into the what the actual hell were they thinking category.
Anyway these are what I would consider the hardest Commodore 64 Games Ever Made!
Games in this video:-
The Last V8 @ 01:04
Airwolf @ 01:41
Impossible Mission @ 02:16
Game Over @ 02:51
Delta @ 03:23
Dominator @ 03:55
Uridium @ 04:27
Infiltrator @ 05:03
The Human Race @ 05:34
Cybernoid @ 06:02
Bounder @ 06:34
Green Beret @ 06:59
Cybernoid II @ 07:29
Army Moves @ 08:01
IO @ 08:33
Hercules @ 08:56
Rags to Riches @ 09:29
Cauldron II @ 10:02
China Miner @ 10:34
Cauldron @ 11:06
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@CraigGrannell
@CraigGrannell 4 жыл бұрын
I interviewed the Cauldron creators for Retro Gamer years back. They admitted they’d never done a complete play through - they only tested individual sections to ensure they were possible to pass.
@CraigGrannell
@CraigGrannell 4 жыл бұрын
Epoch plus5 I liked them as technical achievements, and I persevered for ages with the second one. But they were absolute pigs to play.
@scottbreon9448
@scottbreon9448 4 жыл бұрын
@@CraigGrannell Cauldron 1 especially. Cauldron II was hard, but not nearly as bad as the first
@Mnnvint
@Mnnvint 3 жыл бұрын
In Cauldron 2 you got to see the whole castle even if you had no chance of completing the game, thanks to the random start positions. That was an unusal and very good design decision.
@JeremyNasmith
@JeremyNasmith 2 жыл бұрын
That explains a lot. I didn't have Cauldron I, but I was never able to get anywhere on Cauldron II as a kid on real hardware, nor now on emulation as the controls seem way too arbitrary. Cool concept but way too frustrating.
@matthewhaverly3108
@matthewhaverly3108 3 жыл бұрын
Remember the 'jumps' in the Last Ninja games?? bloody nightmare!!
@satan3959
@satan3959 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, LN2 had those toned down quite a bit but the first and especially the third games...fucking hell
@danm3195
@danm3195 4 жыл бұрын
Before it even started I knew impossible mission was gonna be on there.
@ShiroKatagari
@ShiroKatagari 3 жыл бұрын
I remember having a really bad time with Wizball....
@thefurthestmanfromhome1148
@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 2 жыл бұрын
Stupidly hard to control until you got the first power up, poor game design that.
@SocietyIsCollapsing
@SocietyIsCollapsing 3 жыл бұрын
One game that stands out for me was Zoids. It was a good game, but I seem to remember it being brutal. Maybe I was just pish at it, though...
@davidstone1293
@davidstone1293 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, but I expected “Raid on Bungling Bay” and “Spelunker” on the list. Raid on BB ramps up the difficulty as the game progresses to insane levels for the last factory. Spelunker is absolutely unforgiving.
@BroqHans
@BroqHans 4 жыл бұрын
Spelunker... loved to hate that game.
@rafaellima83
@rafaellima83 3 жыл бұрын
I finished Raid On BB so many times, hard to find it difficulty nowadays :D
@kernzyp
@kernzyp 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see I was/am champ on some of these! :) Delta, Uridium, Green Beret... Great video :)
@AnthonyFlack
@AnthonyFlack 4 жыл бұрын
For a game with a reputation for being difficult, I reckon most people who had a serious go at beating Impossible Mission still managed to complete it.
@jameslucas5590
@jameslucas5590 3 жыл бұрын
I love that game. "Another visitor. Stay awhile... Stay forever..."
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland 3 жыл бұрын
Unless, like me, you don't really like platform games. AND literally piecing a puzzle together.
@MrLondonGo
@MrLondonGo 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I remember completing that too, no chance with the sequel though!
@jumhed994
@jumhed994 2 жыл бұрын
No chance on that for me.
@JeremyNasmith
@JeremyNasmith 2 жыл бұрын
I never stood a chance as a kid on real hardware with my crappy joystick, but with keyboard controls on an emulator it's way better. Still a challenge, but definitely do able. Even on one life as long as you can clear that one brown room with all the pits along the bottom and the tiny random looking platforms without dying.
@poppinandrottin
@poppinandrottin 4 жыл бұрын
The Hercules with those sound effects and mechanics and hardness!!!
@lurch666
@lurch666 4 жыл бұрын
What ruined green beret for me was the speed of the enemy bullets. On the arcade and spectrum versions they were about half the speed giving you a chance to avoid close shots but on the C64 you had no chance.
@robertmiles9942
@robertmiles9942 4 жыл бұрын
Aargh! Green Beret is such a heartbreak. A near perfect conversion except for that one fatal flaw.
@Mnnvint
@Mnnvint 3 жыл бұрын
There were a lot of games like that, where they made the C64 version A LOT harder for some inexplicable reason.
@jamierose9095
@jamierose9095 2 жыл бұрын
What ruined Green Beret for me was that it crashed at the end of the second level, 100% of the time.
@garethbraint
@garethbraint 4 жыл бұрын
I get massive waves of nostalgia when I watch your c64 videos. God I loved that machine.
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
Me too mate ...i love loading games up on my real system..sometimes i just sit in my gaming room listening to the sid tunes its like a time machine :-)
@patsfan4life
@patsfan4life 4 жыл бұрын
@@oldstylegaming how do you hook your c64 to your modern TV?
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
I have a din to RCA adapter.
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
they like £6 off ebay
@ToABrighterFuture
@ToABrighterFuture 2 жыл бұрын
Stavros Fasoulas also gave us "Mind Roll," no slouch in its own right. Which reminds me of "Spindizzy," which was not exactly a cakewalk, either. And then there was Spectrum Holobyte's "Zig Zag"...which had an absolutely rocking title theme, but HOLY RIGATONI WAS IT HARD. 😱
@TokyoXtreme
@TokyoXtreme 3 жыл бұрын
I used to think Impossible Mission was tough, but after finally reading through the instruction book (once I found a legit copy), I was able to finish it pretty easily. I still play it a few times per year because of its randomness and replayability. I consider the C-64 version to be perfection in video gaming. I never, ever get tired of playing it. So much fun, and immersive as well. I would put stuff like Wizard’s Lair on the list. Brutal. Marble Madness was extremely frustrating because of the LONG loading times that made it nearly impossible to practice and improve on difficult segments (before save states made that possible).
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 3 жыл бұрын
Impossible Mission is class
@rlarla6827
@rlarla6827 Жыл бұрын
It's just a fun game. Not too challenging. Figured it out without manual.
@vasili1207
@vasili1207 4 жыл бұрын
Hardest game on the c64 was waiting for it to load.
@vasili1207
@vasili1207 4 жыл бұрын
I lived it too mate 😑
@vasili1207
@vasili1207 4 жыл бұрын
@BS Handle Created uk but i was a bigger fan of the cpc464 .... i did have a disk system for that but mainly played tape games as they was £2.99 ish ... c64 just annoyed me as a kid ... i remember disk was about £15-20 in uk
@vasili1207
@vasili1207 4 жыл бұрын
@BS Handle Created i had things like light pens with my cpc could draw on the tv with full colour etc .... my mate had a cpc with hundreds of games.... But your looking at it from a modern perspective at that time i was only a young lad 6/7 power and capabilities wasnt a thing i even remember ... well until i got an amiga then i was on the power bandwagon little bit older then..
@vasili1207
@vasili1207 4 жыл бұрын
@BS Handle Created hahah you must have been older than me at the time ... and still obviously 😂. That would have been well to advanced for me , i could just about type out a game in basic from a magazine... Hehe you never played the danger wank game then 😂
@vasili1207
@vasili1207 4 жыл бұрын
@BS Handle Created haha oceans and hundreds of years apart but your still british i see.... or at least got our sense of humour ... PS IAM WELSH 😁 sorry about other week can we still be freinds. As for yor c64sex toy you are mad lad ... wiggle wiggle 🎮
@Akira625
@Akira625 7 ай бұрын
Back in the 80s, a friend had Impossible Mission for his Commodore 128. The game had stuck in my mind over the years, and several years ago, I found the game on the web and played it. After about five weeks of playing it, I discovered that Impossible Mission wasn’t so impossible after all, and I finally beat it! I’m so impressed as to how much thought and effort went into the game, especially the AI of the robots. And each time you play it, it’s a different experience. The rooms are in different locations in the building, the puzzle pieces are hidden in different objects, and the robots change their behavior.
@ToysintheStatic
@ToysintheStatic 3 жыл бұрын
I had a bunch of these...it really explains why i feel the way i do about commodore games. They were often impossible.
@TokyoXtreme
@TokyoXtreme 3 жыл бұрын
The C-64 version of Aliens was unforgiving to say the least, and the Apple version was a piece of cake in comparison. Although I’ve seen a strategy on KZbin about how to properly do the door-welding sequence, and if you had patience, I suppose you could map out an optimal strategy for the air vent section.
@imushavem7504
@imushavem7504 2 жыл бұрын
This was one of my favorite games on the C64. I loved being the pipe 5 x 5. I spent hours learning the platform maze. Oh the the air duct maze was a huge pain. It took a while to figure out to use the flame thrower to push the aliens back instead of killing them on the welding section to keep the slower aliens longer and buy time to cut through that door. Fighting the queen and dropping her was so much fun.
@stackhat8624
@stackhat8624 Жыл бұрын
Which version of Aliens? The version by Electric Dreams or Activision? The Activision version had some tough parts with the flame thrower stopping aliens getting through.
@jmac79ers
@jmac79ers 4 жыл бұрын
The version of Green Beret I used to play was Rushin Attack and my step brother and I would take turns spamming the spacebar because that would throw grenades or something. Nice list, thanks for the quality vid!
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
thanks mate...yeah pressing the space bar when you are under so much stress and pressure isnt ideal on C64 games lol
@rodrigosebastianpagano8198
@rodrigosebastianpagano8198 4 жыл бұрын
In my C64 days I used to beat Army Moves and Impossible Mission almost every time I play them. The Last V8 was the impossible one to me. Green Beret too, couldn't beat it even with infinite lives.
@Lassssikko
@Lassssikko 4 жыл бұрын
It helped a lot to have good joystick with auto fire, not every auto fire was the same. Some were better.
@florianmaschke269
@florianmaschke269 11 ай бұрын
Oh the good old C64 days. I played a number games back then. Many of them were beyond me. Games like Infiltrator, Impossible Mission or Uridium were just unfair for my age. Many many many years later I had some relief thanks to KZbin. Some lads posted playthroughs on many of my childhood nightmares. It took me over 30 years to see the end of games like Infiltrator, The Lost Patrol, Impossible Mission or some older console games. I remember Phatasy Star from the SMS well. I was stuck on the desert planet on stopped playing for two or three years. An article in a newspaper offered some hints and I was finally able to finish the game. Those were good times. It's 2023 and I'm still playing... probably til I die. Haha. Thanks for the memories.
@mkiss73
@mkiss73 4 жыл бұрын
I remember playing Infiltrator when I was a kid. So frustrating. Flying to the objective was brutal. On the rare occasion I landed successfully, I never completed a single mission.
@marcusmalone
@marcusmalone 4 жыл бұрын
Never played that but I remember thinking it looked so awesome, with different game modes etc!
@scottythegreat1
@scottythegreat1 3 жыл бұрын
Neither did I. The flying simulation wasnt the best, and whats worse is that your papers could randomly become out of order, Chris Grey did a bad job of replicating "Beyond Castle Wolfenstein"
@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning
@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning 3 жыл бұрын
I never managed to beat quite a few C64 Games in my childhood... among those that stand out in my mind: (In no particular order.) "Psychastria", "Dream Warrior", "Forbidden Forest", & "Return to Forbidden Forest".
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland 3 жыл бұрын
The final boss in Forbidden Forest would appear in random locations so killing it was more a matter of luck than skill. I managed that once or twice.
@danmcdaid
@danmcdaid 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great channel, keep up the great work man.
@douglaszirk8949
@douglaszirk8949 Жыл бұрын
Me and my brother were talking the other day about difficult games on the c64. We came to the conclusion that some programmers purposely made them difficult so they wouldn't have to make so many levels. I'm sure the reasons probably varied
@markvickers9677
@markvickers9677 4 жыл бұрын
Ghostbusters 2, couldn't get down the pit at the start.
@asgerms
@asgerms 4 жыл бұрын
I found Trailblazer to be pretty d... hard!
@catinabox2878
@catinabox2878 4 жыл бұрын
I love Uridium. I just wish I was'nt so crap at it. If you can get the speed just right, most of the walls are avoidable. Its those bloody mines that get me.
@krissymarklewis1793
@krissymarklewis1793 3 жыл бұрын
never played the og but loved the follow up on amiga.
@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning
@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning 3 жыл бұрын
@@krissymarklewis1793 Did it happen to be named "Psychastria" or somethin like it...? It was freaking impossible...
@howard7073
@howard7073 Жыл бұрын
Great list….that sure bought back some fond memories. I seem to remember Mastertronic’s Magic Carpet being infuriating as well
@CalmCal
@CalmCal 4 жыл бұрын
2:51 - Yes I remember that - great artwork! 😁👍
@seamusmcmahon6450
@seamusmcmahon6450 4 жыл бұрын
This was a much enjoyed blast from the past. Anyone remember Wonder boy
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
yeah wonder boy was a great looking game ...and yes it was also really hard :-)
@stevenmillward4105
@stevenmillward4105 4 жыл бұрын
But it went on forever. Same boss at the end but a different face
@collectivesartori
@collectivesartori Жыл бұрын
Cybernoid. What a brilliant game. Great choices here. Classic games all despite their difficulty.
@DifficultFlannel
@DifficultFlannel 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent stuff. Subscribed.
@marcusmalone
@marcusmalone 4 жыл бұрын
Hardest c64 games lis one hell of a list, considering nearly all of them are tough as nails! Whenever i read old review from zzap etc, i always find it difficult to grapple with the idea that those old reviewers finished a lot of these (like uridium). Thanks for the vid!
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment :-)
@hanez5329
@hanez5329 4 жыл бұрын
7:30 No.8 Cybernoid II / Ghost, Dance macabre :D
@c.glazercrush3994
@c.glazercrush3994 4 жыл бұрын
Cybernoids theme as shown sounds like a bent up changed up version of Stevie wonders happy birthday.
@ElcanaldeEspetero
@ElcanaldeEspetero 4 жыл бұрын
There are a couple of mistakes. The Game Over and Army Moves games are Spanish, developed by Dinamic. Imagine just the publisher. I recommend you try the commodore 64 version of the Abu sinvel profanation game. It is another Spanish game, one of the most difficult in its spectrum version, and that had no version for c64 until a couple of years ago. Great video
@darrengrimmer8541
@darrengrimmer8541 4 жыл бұрын
Great channel just subscribed. Re living my teens!!!!
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@marccarson7620
@marccarson7620 4 жыл бұрын
Great video... When you said "nightmare" while the China Miner music played, it made me laugh. I remember it feeling so incredibly unfair when that huge floating ball appeared in Impossible Mission... On top of everything else you had to figure out. Haha 🏃🌐
@section23
@section23 4 жыл бұрын
Rate your videos - keep it up! Always a pleasant surprise
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate that means a lot to me especially after my format change :-)
@awatson3367
@awatson3367 2 жыл бұрын
Uridium is the only one of these I had. Dragon's Lair II is probably the standout tough game I had. And Aliens: only a few years ago I found out that the full price version came with a map! I had no idea how to navigate.
@Rheinmetall1
@Rheinmetall1 2 жыл бұрын
In Army Moves I probably didn't know that you can fire horizontally with the space bar, so I never even cleared the first stage. 😊 But I loved the music. One of the hardest games I 've ever played on C64 was Dragon's Lair II, at least as a kid I thought so. Cauldron has to be my favorite Spectrum game and bought it for the C64 also. I hardly made it to the caves, but I was really enjoying the flight. It was pure magic, literally and metaphorically. Monty on the Run was insane also, but the music was a masterpiece. So many things I could say. Another great video!
@neilarcher2551
@neilarcher2551 4 жыл бұрын
Impossible Mission was a game I mastered so well the only challenge was timing myself beating it. Only on a random start though as on the first default layout is too easy.
@stefs2529
@stefs2529 3 жыл бұрын
I would definitely add to the list Miami Vice. Interesting concept as a game but a nightmare to play!
@Retro_B8
@Retro_B8 2 жыл бұрын
Wow some solid ones there mate, I’ve only got near one, impossible mission. Got to the puzzle at the end 😭
@patsfan4life
@patsfan4life 4 жыл бұрын
I used to give up on The Last V8 about 12 seconds into the first course lol..... that soundtrack kept me coming back though
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
I completed it on a long play a few month ago...ill re upload soon as took it down.
@patsfan4life
@patsfan4life 4 жыл бұрын
old style gaming yeah I watched it and was thoroughly impressed!
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
thanks :-) it was a hard game but once you got used to the controls was dare i say...Easy.... cos it only had 2 levels
@patsfan4life
@patsfan4life 4 жыл бұрын
@@oldstylegaming I guess it's one of those games if you're willing to put in the time on the front end to learn the controls..... which I was not LOL (way too many easy to learn fun games on the c64 for that)
@neiladamson1971
@neiladamson1971 4 жыл бұрын
At least it only cost 2.99 in its day
@TheCoreyd1086
@TheCoreyd1086 3 жыл бұрын
The hardest games I ever played on the C64 was Short Circuit and Star Trek. Would love to see you touch on those two games
@LUCKO2022
@LUCKO2022 3 жыл бұрын
I admit I never heard of half the games on the list. Going to check them out now thanks to this video.
@LordmonkeyTRM
@LordmonkeyTRM 4 жыл бұрын
Superb vid and a great list.
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
thanks mate :-)
@markus-hermannkoch1740
@markus-hermannkoch1740 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, Cauldron. Save states afforded me closure 20 years later, finally making all of these unfair jumps in one sitting. However, seeing the end of the game begs the question: Did its developers even consider the possibility of anybody winning?
@thefurthestmanfromhome1148
@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 2 жыл бұрын
They used infinite lives mode during the making of the game, which explains a lot..
@DrownedInExile
@DrownedInExile 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised you didn't include Eliminator. Rocking soundtrack, nice TRON aesthetic, some gravity-defying sections, pretty fun shooty gameplay. But good grief those water-canal levels were insane. Running into a barrier or going into the water should not result in an instant kill!
@nellitheretrogamer8666
@nellitheretrogamer8666 2 жыл бұрын
Alleykat was a game that I really liked but it was sometimes terribly unfair. It was a sort of futuristic racer and sometimes, at the beginning of the race, it would fire your ship straight into some obstacle so that you crashed and died. Nowadays a game like this would give the player a couple of seconds of immortality to get their bearings but that was too much to hope for at the time.
@thefurthestmanfromhome1148
@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 2 жыл бұрын
You could fly unscathed if you stuck to one side of the screen on early levels of I remember..
@petars.6210
@petars.6210 Жыл бұрын
Out of 20 games, 5 I didn't played. I know what you say when you talk about difficult games for Commodore 64. :) I agree on a selection, but I think one is missing. "House of Usher" was really difficult.
@j.fitness5701
@j.fitness5701 3 жыл бұрын
Miami Vice comes to my mind... Not only it was brutally hard and merciless to be able to drive and steer the car without ever crashing it to other cars or pavement but it was also impossible to figure out what to actually do in the game. Hmm let me see... More honorable mentions might be Entombed maybe... H.E.R.O is quite hard altough one can progress quite a lot levels before it almost becomes "impossible". Fort Apocalypse, Skramble and Falcon Patrol 2 comes to my mind for hard side scrollers. Rambo First Blood was quite hard especially at beating the helicopter stage. Very spot on for Green Beret. Altough I should also add "Ghosts'n Goblins" for "almost impossible to beat" C64 platform games sa others also mentioned. Fist 2 is quite hard for a karate game. Bruce Lee and Zorro are quite hard but very enjoyable nevertheless. Swoop (Alieni) quite hard shooter game. Pacman, Lode Runner and Jumpman Junior games are surprising hard also contrary to their popularity. As for Impossible Mission lookalike, Hero of the Golden Talisman can also be considered quite hard. C64 version of 1942 is also quite hard. The Last Ninja (1) is also quite hard. It was a nightmare to be able to do the exact jumps at the swamp.
@MacMelmac
@MacMelmac 3 жыл бұрын
The sound in Game Over sounds just like Starquake
@dazzadizzy5308
@dazzadizzy5308 4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the C64 machine this christmas! :o)
@sgerar37
@sgerar37 4 жыл бұрын
Nice compilation. Transformers was insanely difficult too!
@dingo4010
@dingo4010 4 жыл бұрын
Besides them being transformers, was there ever any point to them transforming. I seem to remember when you turned into a car you couldn't shoot and it was really easy to die.
@lordevyl8317
@lordevyl8317 4 ай бұрын
@@dingo4010 The only good "Transformers" game on the system was an unofficial "Transformers" themed game called Deceptor. That game was actually pretty decent, albeit a tad bit frustrating.
@Sinisteve
@Sinisteve 4 жыл бұрын
Top Video mate, don’t think I’ve ever played Army Moves, looks like it plays similar to Moon Patrol, will check that out. Another tough game I thought of was Z, 1st and 2nd levels not too bad, 3rd level ramps right up
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
Ill check that out mate...i really like that Bounder, i had never played it...ive played another game like it maybe on the Amiga but cant for the life of me remember its name...anyway i played it for a good 40 mins the other night...and got no where lol
@Lucasrainford
@Lucasrainford 4 жыл бұрын
@@oldstylegaming Cosmic Bouncer?
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
Bounder
@Lucasrainford
@Lucasrainford 4 жыл бұрын
@@oldstylegaming the Amiga game you couldn't think of lol
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
f*ckin hell Luke thats it lol :-)...its nearly the same
@andyawardian1868
@andyawardian1868 4 жыл бұрын
Impossible Mission is a very challenging game - but one of the hardest C64 games ever? I have to disagree on this one. It's tough, but it is also one of the fairest and best playable games ever created for the C64. I played it more than a dozen times till the end - the last time just a couple of weeks ago, after I finally purchased a C64Mini. You are allowed to make quite a lot of errors and missteps, because you have "unlimited" lives and "only" loose some minutes from your overall time limit. Albeit the A.I. of the robots changes from play to play, the rooms are the same and very memorable. The key for your success are the passcodes, which allow you to "cheat" - f.e. freezing the robots or resetting the platforms.
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
i said in the video that i can complete Impossible Mission but it got soooo many mentions on the FB page that people must find it hard
@andyawardian1868
@andyawardian1868 4 жыл бұрын
@@oldstylegaming It is mentioned so often because of it's name, in my humble opinion. ;) The truth is: It's one of the fairest C64 games ever, because their are so many features which makes the game easier and more accessible than a lot of other beasts from the eighties. Even when I don't play perfect, I have two or three hours left. It's just a really good game, that aged extremely well.
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
@@andyawardian1868 it has mate thats why its in my 30 Best Commodore 64 Games Ever Made video ;-)
@AnthonyFlack
@AnthonyFlack 4 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. One of the best games of the 1980s, very fair and not hard to beat as long as you're careful with your lives and don't be afraid to use the passcodes. In reality you have maybe 30 lives to spare at most.
@TokyoXtreme
@TokyoXtreme 3 жыл бұрын
Anthony Flack passcode management is integral to a good playthrough. A pro IM-er can quickly read a room and determine if a password should be used or saved for another layout.
@pelimies1818
@pelimies1818 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid! I remember ripping my pants, playing GreenBeret.. So annoyingly hard; like Who Dares Wins on dope.
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
Haha how do you manage to rip your pants playing green beret lol
@pelimies1818
@pelimies1818 4 жыл бұрын
old style gaming The pants were actually cotton shorts, so they ripped quite easily; even with my nerdy arm strengthnessless..
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
@@pelimies1818 Haha
@yayayaya2707
@yayayaya2707 4 жыл бұрын
Spin Dizzy was a bastard too
@marcusmalone
@marcusmalone 4 жыл бұрын
Weird, along with Andy Capp, that's two c64 games about alcoholics aimed at kids. Ah the 80s. Good times.
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
Best times mate
@MephProduction
@MephProduction 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Mr. Wino
@satan3959
@satan3959 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Bozo's Night Out
@purpl3t3ntacl3
@purpl3t3ntacl3 2 жыл бұрын
i love the last V8 music... nice game
@Emulous79
@Emulous79 4 жыл бұрын
I'd agree with some of these like Cauldron, Hercules and Airwolf. Impossible Mission for me is the easiest one, lol!
@flemmingvestergaard8526
@flemmingvestergaard8526 4 жыл бұрын
Quo Vadis. 1000 confusing screens, sparse health and pixel perfect jumping. I only reached about 1% of the game.
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
I'll check that out :-)
@SirHilaryManfat
@SirHilaryManfat 4 жыл бұрын
My achilles heel was Monty on the Run. I only used to load it to listen to Hubbard's tune. Surprised some comments are saying Impossible Mission isn't that difficult. I really wanted to love that game and gave it so much of my time, but I just found it too frustrating.
@Nickbaldeagle02
@Nickbaldeagle02 4 жыл бұрын
I actually remember completing MOTR back in the day. Once my brother and I acquired the relevant items to pick at the start. It's bloody hard though.
@lordevyl8317
@lordevyl8317 4 ай бұрын
To be honest, I'm not a massive fan of most early European platform games anyway. Only exception for me is Manic Miner (although the first Blagger game from Antony Crowther wasn't too bad either). When I came to early platformers, I preferred the ones that came from the US like Loderunner and Montezuma's Revenge.
@simonharding1572
@simonharding1572 3 жыл бұрын
I did make it off level 1 on human race eventually level 2 is a nightmare also and I did not ever have enough lives to master it then you had to start again! another one I found frustrating dragons lair 2
@Dorelaxen
@Dorelaxen 4 жыл бұрын
I dunno, that Commodore rendition of Maple Leaf Rag sounds pretty good in China Miner. But, I would imagine if it looped constantly, it would drive you bonkers after a while.
@scottythegreat1
@scottythegreat1 3 жыл бұрын
I like that people watch for cover versions and inspirations for video game music, I know I do.
@MechaFenris
@MechaFenris 4 жыл бұрын
My "this is harder than Impossible Mission" was trying to memorize Fort Apocalypse patterns. :) Frustrating as all get out.
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, Fort Apocalypse was fun because it wasn't a platform game, unlike Impossible Mission. Even though the guided missiles are rather tricky to evade, the game was tons of fun to me, unlike Impossible Mission.
@lurkerrekrul
@lurkerrekrul 4 жыл бұрын
Uridium - Even using an unlimited lives trainer, making it to the end of this game was a huge pain in the ass. By level 13 or so, the enemy ships go by so fast that you have no chance of avoiding them. You'd hear the sound indicating that ships are approaching and then your ship just explodes. Plus, on the higher levels, there are sections where you have to turn your ship on edge to fit through, and fly slow, but they put a bomb hatch right there, so a homing mine pops out to chase you. I had to snapshot the game on level 14 (I think) and save it to disk so that I could come back and finish it later as my hand was cramping. I probably used up several hundred lives in the process. I don't even remember what happens when you beat the last level. Infiltrator - I never had the instructions and never got past the helicopter launch part, so I had no idea what the rest of the game was like.
@automateTec
@automateTec 3 ай бұрын
The ability to destroy the walls would make Uridium almost perfect.
@natelecarde962
@natelecarde962 4 жыл бұрын
8:56 Cue the Jontron memes
@scottythegreat1
@scottythegreat1 3 жыл бұрын
Almost any game made by Ocean Software/Imagine Software could make this list. I know I would have put in Miami Vice. Its so hard to control the car with all the other cars around, its so easy to crash that thing, let alone find the place you are looking for to find clues and money (and if you had a pirated version of the game, you may not have the list of places to be from the instruction book).
@Bellpipe41
@Bellpipe41 4 жыл бұрын
Not surprised at No.1 My god... that game was, as you say in the video, torture.
@windsweeper8002
@windsweeper8002 4 ай бұрын
7:44 reminds me of the theme to The Flash. I found The Last Ninja games, Transformers and the Addams Family ridiculously difficult.
@markogalic3237
@markogalic3237 4 жыл бұрын
Many less popular games were also tough or hard to learn. I also played Up Periscope!, F16 Combat Pilot, Empire, Alien...and a lot more. :) The actual fun was when you mastered some they were fun as hell, for example Giana Sisters, Krakout, Kickstart. I didn't give up easily, but never got into Dragon's Lair. My honorable mention.
@LogrusUK
@LogrusUK 4 жыл бұрын
Some classic nightmares on that list!
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
loving the Thalamus Logo mate :-)
@PianoDreams
@PianoDreams 2 жыл бұрын
I remember Shadow of the beast II (best graphics of any Amiga game) was absurdly hard. Even with infinite energy it was very difficult to complete.
@gimmievids
@gimmievids 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant 🤣 I tried to hit the like button but it kept moving and was really hard
@misterprecocious2491
@misterprecocious2491 4 жыл бұрын
I got a free poster with Game Over which was the box artwork before they censored it.
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
I had that up on my wall and my mother wasn't happy lol
@andrewknaff9220
@andrewknaff9220 3 жыл бұрын
I loved Impossible Mission. I played it over and over just trying to beat my previous time.
@Vindicator18
@Vindicator18 4 жыл бұрын
Some games that I found to be difficult were Big Trouble In Little China, Black Knight (it was on a compilation with a tonne of other games like Alien Kill 1 and 2), Galactic Games, The Last Ninja 3, a text game called Escape, Aliens (UK version), Highlander (because it was just broken), and Impossible Mission 2.
@marcusfranconium3392
@marcusfranconium3392 2 жыл бұрын
AH old school games , some suprisingly hard and well thought out. I loved the old game defended and neptunes daughter in the early 80s.
@amigaoldskool
@amigaoldskool 4 жыл бұрын
Cauldron proper hard that one no wonder it’s number one ... green beret was really tough .. cybernoid/2 really enjoyed on the spectrum .. same mate about air wolf love the tv show but the game was bonkers hard .. Brilliant list of games Paul just shame they are soooooo difficult
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
yeah they are hard Adam but some of them like Cybernoid are hard but great :-) i actually played Cybernoid on my mates spectrum first too it was really good on there
@honolulu3d
@honolulu3d 4 жыл бұрын
Great video !!
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching mate i appreciate it :-)
@murrayreid2748
@murrayreid2748 4 жыл бұрын
Ones i remember were Chiller, Armalyte & Myth...everytime I hit up the latter always got wiped out at the Egyptian level...cracked & trained versions v.much needed on all three!😅
@oldstylegaming
@oldstylegaming 4 жыл бұрын
I did a full playthrough of myth last week ..great game and who would have thought the last level would be a shoot em up
@drstefankrank
@drstefankrank 3 жыл бұрын
Had a hard time on Paperboy. Snokie was also badass. Pixel perfect jumps right from the start.
@Planetdune
@Planetdune 4 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, Yolanda on Amiga was inspired by Hercules on C64.. who knew... everyone hates Yolanda but I recently completed it and it gave me some enjoyment learning all the patterns.
@satan3959
@satan3959 3 жыл бұрын
Same guy made both games, so it was essentially a spiritual sequel to Hercules
@Hologhoul
@Hologhoul Жыл бұрын
That I/O was such a stylish looking game, very cool. The one with the tramp likely wouldn't be allowed these days! I recall Ancipital by Jeff Minter getting difficult after a few levels, fab game though. I used to strop out, exclaiming "YOU LOSE A LIFE IN A EVERY ROOM!" which eventually became a sort of in-joke with friends, saying it with a little melody (stupid teenage idiots as we were!) I also found Gribbly's Day Out really hard, I played it again recently on emulation and could still only get to level 2, what a fantastic, original game though.
@ContemporaryCompendium
@ContemporaryCompendium 3 жыл бұрын
OMG THANK YOU!! I've searched for years and I could not remember the name of The Human Race until I found it here. I hated and loved that game due to its difficulty.
@MilosCov
@MilosCov Жыл бұрын
Tales of the Arabian Nights would be another suggestion for one of the hardest games. I rarely got past the first level and if I did I was usually killed pretty quicky on the second.
@StCreed
@StCreed 8 ай бұрын
Same here, but I recently played it on emulator and it was much easier now I'm older.
@Borna909
@Borna909 9 ай бұрын
There were definitely a few really tough ones. Inventing youtube was worth it because of these games alone because that is the only way to see what is actually to be seen in these hard-hitting hacks after the loading screen. After all, Impossible Mission was still manageable if you got a good arrangement of the rooms (they were rearranged with every game).
@RMoocher
@RMoocher 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, most C64 games are hard! But obviously some more extreme than others.
@patsfan4life
@patsfan4life 4 жыл бұрын
R Moocher plenty that are fair on their difficulty though..... just need to explore the massively vast library
@RMoocher
@RMoocher 2 жыл бұрын
@@patsfan4life There's plenty of unfair ones though!
@ValleyofEndar
@ValleyofEndar 2 жыл бұрын
China Miner was one of the first games we bought. Thought the game was broken as I couldn't do the first jump (you have to press up with joystick while hitting the button). My brother got it right though. Then we hit the first breakaway platform, not understanding what was going on (in a age without internet) we thought the game was broken again and took it back, until the shop owner showed us what to do. Finally finished it with an infinite lives cheat and a save system. Was still tough. Some of the levels actually is much easier later on but mixed with tough ones as well...
@tailgunner2
@tailgunner2 4 жыл бұрын
I remember Bounder. A cousin of mine had to "break" this game to play it.
@pelimies1818
@pelimies1818 3 жыл бұрын
Younger people do not understand, but these games had no possibility to make a savegame. The only C64 games I remember for using savegame, are Elite and Ultima series (there were few others, too). These games could take weeks to play, so naturally they needed a save function.
@npc310177
@npc310177 3 жыл бұрын
It took me roughly 29 years to get past the first level of The Human Race. Massive Eureka moment, then died in seconds on level 2.... :)
@lordevyl8317
@lordevyl8317 4 ай бұрын
That game is nearly impossible even with trainers. It was worth loading up for the music though. especially the first level music
@juandeus3041
@juandeus3041 7 ай бұрын
I remember finishing Mission Impossible at the age of 8 or 9 a long ago. It´s not so hard if u plan the game properly, be a bit patient and just let all the puzzle solving for the last. Also, IMHO there is dark pieces of software which are WAY harder than some of the ones in the video (just like Ghouls or Tales of the Arabian Nights - another piece from China Miner programmer). Nice video altough I´m 4 years too late, still thumbs up+suscribed.
@collectivesartori
@collectivesartori Жыл бұрын
Played a LOT of Delta. Yes it was hard, but it was very addictive and beautifully made. And that theme music is iconic.
@marsiozo
@marsiozo 4 жыл бұрын
'V the game' never got anywhere and was just stuck between the green energy barriers on start. Impossible mission...as a kid (and still) didnt have a clue how to solve the puzzles. and what about the yellow chess board console...?
@marsiozo
@marsiozo 4 жыл бұрын
Also 'time machine' I believe from Vivid games..stunning graphics..high anticipations from the video game magazines...but a total letdown since ( for me) as a kid I got clueless about how to progress in the game.
@johngillanders9694
@johngillanders9694 4 жыл бұрын
The puzzles - you could flip them and combine four pieces into one. After combining all individual pieces into unique computer chips, you go to the ‘control room’ (has a large screen in the room) and push up on it to complete the game. Took me ages to figure it out! It’s one of the few C64 games I ever completed.
@capitalknockers666
@capitalknockers666 3 жыл бұрын
The puzzles were super easy once you got good at the game as there was a button you could press to sacrifice a little time to have it auto-rotate a piece into the correct orientation. That took a couple of minutes but then you could fit each piece together quickly and easily. Mission accomplished. Congratulations.
@TokyoXtreme
@TokyoXtreme 3 жыл бұрын
capitalknockers666 I wanted you to stay a while though!
@marcevans6545
@marcevans6545 2 жыл бұрын
The Dizzy games were stupid hard as well. Which was infuriating for me as they looked like a lot of fun to play.
@stevenmillward4105
@stevenmillward4105 4 жыл бұрын
With the old sideways scrolling shoot-em-up, you could go a long way if you had all the fruity weapons but as soon as you died you were soooo weak. Goes the same for the arcade games like Nemesis too
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