The Hat Chat Podcast #9 - Bath Water Bait!

[@UNRATEDGfx]

Smith's reaction to the "ice cream trend" is spot on! You have access to all the information in the world with the internet, yet it's used to spout absolute dribble!

[@user-co2ps4yo7k]

heh dribble

[@JamesIRE]

UNRATEDGfx get the bibs out for the boiiiis

[@oheilthere]

I literally never look at the trending page. It isn't ever presented to me either. My home page will show suggested videos based on my likes but not just whatever is trending. I honestly don't think the trending page is useful at all, I don't get it.

[@matthewrichmond6333]

Same, never seen or used it.

[@spaceshiplewis]

So... Shipping and Receiving Part II: The Bathermath? Three Boiks in a Bath? We gave our Editor a Bath?

[@Entombedant]

We stole our editors bathwater???? (Gone wrong, gone sexual???)

[@memeily]

The Bathermath holy shit that actually amazing wow

[@TheOdd]

Give us Gamer Boi water you cowards. I want buckets of the stuff!

[@mynameisjowee]

More like Alex Smith Enema Water amirite

[@jamespark3510]

who on earth actually complained that the 'we bought our editor a scooter' a click bait vid? LOL

[@SegginsProductions]

I can see the title already: "We tested Hat Films' bath water and you won't believe what they have!"

[@DirkCjelli42]

What those ice cream lickers are doing is a felony in the US and people have been arrested for it.

[@handsomecaveman]

Hi Alex and the gang from The Hat Chat Podcast.

[@Rhaelyx1]

I wish they remade The Lion King with the actors wearing animal costumes and walking around on all fours. Maybe also have it directed by Quentin Tarantino.

[@leetri]

They already have that (albeit without Quentin Tarantino), it's called the Lion King musical.

[@CayneOfficial]

I watch H2O as a kid, the show kept changing it's main characters if I remember right. I figured out later how flawed the shows logic was, but they did all have individual water powers, which was cool.

[@bushbaby4421]

I have to commend Smith for his viewpoints here. Despite what seems to be said a lot, to me he demonstrates consistently a highly considerate and yet well-reasoned and rational perspective on a lot of social issues. His bar story was particularly interesting for rethinking the often binary perspectives of what sexual forwardness should or shouldn’t be accepted. Great example of why moral relativism allows for an open mind.

[@___AB___]

i dont think it's an example of moral relativism (which imo isnt a good idea, nor makes anyone more open minded, since it basically means everyone can decide whether their actions are right or wrong; you might as well have no morality). i think he made the right call by going up to her out of concern. the only part he went wrong was assuming she wasn't ok with what happened. that can be easily addressed in the future by first asking whether what they did bothered her then proceeding to apologize if thats the case. the underlying moral reasoning which might boil down to 'sexual harassment is bad' still stays, it's just a matter of not assuming whether the person considers themselves to have been harassed.

[@bushbaby4421]

It doesn’t mean that at all. Moral relativism doesn’t have to mean total acceptance; I merely stated that as a state of mind it can be eye opening to other perspectives. For example, if a culture where the first borns eyes are removed, it could be easy to say it’s wrong, and, if you’re in a position of power, end it. However, it’s important to understand why it happens and the consequences of changing it. Maybe if it’s eyes aren’t removed, the child is outcast from its home, family, culture and people. Maybe it never completes a right of passage to becoming a tribes wise elder figure, who knows? In fact this isn’t so different from the issues of cultures that castrate certain sexes of children, for, especially for women, the process can be quite dangerous. It would be easy for a western culture to denounce such actions and stride in with their moral righteousness and kill a bunch of people to put an end to it. But, it is highly important for that culture, defining the right of passage from girlhood to womanhood and creating a stronger sense of unity and identity within their population. Without it, they could be more psychologically stunted and harmed than the potential physical harm of the process itself, you just can’t know without hearing the words and considering the views of different sub groups from that culture. It doesn’t mean you have to agree ultimately, it’s just an awareness that no morality can be categorically more right than another and that it’s all situationally constructed. I equally think Smith was right in his actions. He held the belief that what that man did was wrong and wanted to apologise because he was, at that time, associated with him. The lady at the bar called him prudish and he backed off. It takes that level of open mindedness to not press that point further, he didn’t proceed to press how wrong it was and tell her ‘you shouldn’t accept this’, and ‘stand up for yourself’ e.t.c, instead he realised that such behaviour isn’t always harmful, and therefore isn’t always morally wrong; that it changes in different situations and with different people.

[@lewis6590]

@@bushbaby4421 It's not "all situationally constructed". That's taking a rational idea to an irrational extreme. If I believed that everything is relative, and nothing can be assumed to be bad, there would be no reason to interrupt any situation like Alex was describing. Moderation is key as with most things. As they say, be open minded but not so open minded your brain falls out.

[@clonebanana]

The trending page is essentially the same as going to the movie theater without knowing what you want to watch. You see a selection of films across a variety of genres and you pick which one sounds entertaining. Going to the movies with a movie you want to see in mind is what most people on here do where they want to see content creators they enjoy and only watch those videos.

[@SVAFnemesis]

Awww Smiffy's such a gentleman! That makes me moist!

[@eamk887]

40:58 Trott made it sound weird, but he is correct. Here in Finland when we go to sauna we're all naked. In fact, if you wear a towel in a sauna, you're considered to be weird.

[@lorddakr]

This is my favourite Podcast out there Proud to support it!

[@BuckyDK]

52:00 Yea Smith, honestly.. you don't have the right to apologize for anyone.

[@lewis6590]

It's funny that even though they talk about builders, and girls that like flirtation that is overly-forward, and the idea of certain ideas being 'internet-centric', they still can't quite understand that Twitter is not a map of reality. Most people don't really care and can let things they don't like roll off their back or tell someone to cut shit out.

[@alsmiffy1]

@AtomicCatacombs yup - hence why I explained before hand I was with some friends and they had friends that I didn't know.

[@moondusk8385]

Just love Hat Chat anytime, anyday, anywhere..perfect as right now cant sleep so watching now....Love you huys..Thank You.

[@lewis6590]

I think Alex is contradicting himself a bit with the Bell Delphine stuff. He's simultaneously saying that she's specifically targeting and trolling "less worldly" men and that's great and empowering, and that she has no responsibility for bringing their weird messages on herself and shouldn't have to deal with it. You don't *have to* deal with those people because you don't *have to* make a career out of collecting donations for teasing nudes or whatever. She seems like a funny person but I can't say I am able to see her as a victim as she sits back and collects NEETbucks. She seems like she's fully aware of what she's doing and the consequences, and that's fine, but I don't have any obligation to pretend she's being victimized or doing anything noble or "empowering".

[@Helldhaz]

She's exploiting vulnerable men for financial gain, nothing more, nothing less, she's by no means the first and won't be the last.

[@oxymoron8803]

Are you ever going to do a ‘team up’ episode with Triforce xDD

[@JakeCusick94]

This was a really solid episode! I always enjoy how they can take some pretty basic conversations and then transform it into a fairly deep topic. Keep up the good work!

[@mep1331]

Alex Smith, the humblest man.

[@TokkiYamaguchi]

Smith is a great representation of the kinda way I view the world. I totally relate to most of what you say man. Also this podcast is just incredible, keep it up as always❤️

[@mrdfpiii]

I miss the dog.

[@sebwaffles4424]

Absolutely love the crazy hord changes in the fingle Qwesta

[@1o1games25]

HOLY SHIT! i just noticed their mic cables have their personal colors. smith green cable, trott yellow cable and ross Blue cable how have i never noticed that. the whole time i was like why tf does trott have a odd yellow cable when the others have black then i checked and they DONT XD

[@awesomeaartvark]

Oh my god!! I noticed Trott's was yellow, but I didn't think much of it, that's awesome!! Nice catch!

[@awesomeaartvark]

Oh my god, that Right This Minute clip that your video was featured in, hahaha, I actually saw that show a few times when I was dog-sitting for someone. I'm sure there are people who enjoy that show, and that's totally cool, but I was always a bit annoyed with how they kept pausing the video, haha, all that lead-up to something that's kinda just like, "oh, yeah that's sorta cool I guess", hahaha, that's the _last_ place I expected to see a video of yours featured on, but I kinda love it XD XD

[@LiveTheRealWorld]

I'd buy your bath water smithy.

[@DirkCjelli42]

Eat this algorithm! The boys will be famous!

[@unarri]

Me and my husband were talking about Splash a couple days ago. Not sure how we got around to it, most of our conversations are very twisty, but yes, it was a great movie!

[@Pratalax]

Just moments ago, I accidentally farted directly at a piece of bread i was halfway through eating. I think i'm on to a moneymaker here...

[@DrewsGamingChannel]

Great show guys, I don't think the title for your trending video is click bait. It is just a very clickable in the way its worded, I gather its you making a reference to these crazy titles, on a very wholesome video. Love the podcast and hope you're still enjoying it. With this and Minecraft lets get to the Milli!!!

[@SpudsMcGeese]

The Internet proves that no matter how much access to information we have, if people don't care, they won't use it.

[@AkiraChan24]

That's a very good and astute observation. In many cases, even the information people claim to care about.

[@orangemonkeygaming2715]

With the trending page conversation I think trotts right I never look at the trending tab. I know I’m just one opinion but I know that majority of my friends and family that watch KZbin don’t use the trending tab either.

[@iamLi0N]

my name is leon kang and i dispute the comparison with this film.

[@whiteninja2006]

Regarding the Bath Water thing, that's nothing new. Back in 1961, an Italian artist named Piero Manzoni put his excrements in cans and sold it as "Merda d'Artista" (Artist's Shit). The whole concept of fame and followers was already well understood in the modern art world, starting very early in the 20th century with Duchamps and his signed urinal.

[@VideoSage]

I wish if Disney was going to remake all of their old properties, they would do something incredible with them, not these heartless, but technically impressive films. But! The Mulan remake thing, does sound interesting, because they are apparently basing it more on the actual Chinese legend!

[@SBXStorm431]

Where did the 3D print statue of Smith go from the back shelf behind Trott?

[@Chapizard]

They sounded very natural in this one!

[@monk3ymasta]

One of the best, gents.

[@senorjef108251]

Any thoughts on the Hat Chats being longer? any chance it’s even possible?

[@alzoz6741]

Om nom nom, I'm gonna eat Smiff's moldy bath soap.

[@RealKingChief]

Pretty interesting stuff boiks. I like having my thoughts provoked and I feel more compelled to support you via Patreon :)

[@Stormingmonkey]

Just so you guys know for your analytics I've been subbed ever since the sweet dreams days and didn't know about this channel until this video.... I think this video may have worked click bait wise

[@jhowza2990]

You should've sold the bath water from the shipping and receiving video, I would've chugged that shit

[@rndm9087]

just realized the thing with the water and changing back thing is what was in luca XD

[@projectbarry9723]

I for one would be happy for Hat Films to start using clickbaity titles to get big. Remove the stigma. Embrace the irony.

[@rreeeekk]

Ironic clickbait is still clickbait

[@projectbarry9723]

@@rreeeekk right, and what of the stigma behind clickbait. If they are a good channel they have to play to the system a bit in order to progress. Why should they be penalised

[@rreeeekk]

@@projectbarry9723 Sure everyone can use clickbait if they want. But you cant hide behind "embracing the irony." Its still clickbait.

[@berserk____1878]

Belle Delphine seriously makes me question my medical degree lol smh

[@Isabelle-mp8rk]

is scandinavian, can confirm i walk around home with just my underwear even if my sister or mother is at home.

[@The_Superdwarf]

Scandinavian here to confirm the claim that we are naked as a family some times

[@ci3xx]

wow i love hat chat

[@enigmaPL]

35:40 Oh Trott..... That already exists..... It's called beer. lol

[@TheNiters]

Videos presented as trending are videos that are performing better than usual on that channel. So if Hatfilms channel videos usually get 15 000 views per hour in the first hours and the scooter vlog got 30 000 views per hours, then you will be placed on the trending page. The same goes for the videos of larger channels, if videos there usually get 100 000 views per hour and they make a video that gets 200 000 view per hours, then their video will appear on trending as well. The improvement of view rate compared to average videos on the channel decides your placement on the trending page.

[@Arcane0shadow]

as someone who used to work in retail i can say the licking icecream and opening bottles was a pain in the ass.

[@rreeeekk]

Trott was NOT laughing enough at 35:35 👀👀

[@thewildmitchell]

ooo judging by the title I think this one might be a little high brow for me, can you wind it down next time with some politics and economics 😂

[@tobyv1.643]

1:12:20 to 1:12:40 How many 'yeahs' can you count

[@jod125]

Liveleak has a safe button enabled by default. You have to willingly disable safe search on it to see gore and stuff.

[@bywd]

Like trott said, I don't go to the trending page at all

[@SilentFaces]

I probably check the recommended tab more than trending.

[@AkiraChan24]

I think what's going to make it a lot easier for people to take the chance to intervene and tell off gross men for their behavior and hold them accountable is if we, as a society, shift our perspective and see intervention not as doing a favor for women, but rather, fixing society in general. If we stop focusing so much on the person on the receiving end and focus instead on intervention in uncomfortable situations as a form of public service, that could help it feel less like a social gamble and (maybe) more empowering.

[@lindh2126]

what!? I had no idea you guys did this!?

[@brianblake9589]

You think an orgy near a Scout camp is bad? After the summer ends, my old Scout camp HOSTS a pyro-hippie commune for a week. The maintenance staff have found g-strings wrapped in the blades of the lawnmowers.

[@JakeVXI]

12:04 literally sums up my opinions

[@MANGO-SAXON]

Don't quote me on it but i think this 'internet' thing is going to be massive.

[@dylanangel2870]

what you dont see from top gear and grand tour, its the massive security force they get, its border line paramilitary levels. iraq was like that aswell, they had the literal british army there for them

[@TopLob]

Norwegian here. Wtf are you talking about, Trott?

[@PurpleOwl79]

Also Trott, Scandinavian countries are just Norway, Denmark, and Sweden. Finland and Iceland added to them are Nordic Countries.

[@TopLob]

@@PurpleOwl79 Finland and Iceland may not be Scandinavian in geography, but they are in spirit. :) Honorary Scandinavians.

[@thewildmitchell]

A lot of the people not letting their kids learn about LGBT stuff is for religious reasons, not just them being prudish - that is a massive problem.

[@maxpower8460]

@ 20:00 Trott saying the Lion King was taken from an anime, I thought it the story was taken from Hamlet...

[@EleventySevenism]

Shakespeare was the original anime adaptationist

[@frognibbler]

I’ve been to South Korea boys totally worth it though like you said it was quite hard to navigate as a non Korean speaker

[@RageQuitSon]

alright nobody wanted a realistic lion king.. singing... but holy heckin that's adorable. i'll see that when it hits netflix or whatever just to see cute cats!

[@EylonBear]

There is an episode of Bones where this guy actually does from this.

[@matthewrichmond6333]

Honestly I don't think I've ever gone on the trending tab, my feed's literally just yogs and warhammer stuff so that's all I really see on KZbin.

[@d.b.5070]

Isn't the little mermaid set near Sweden?

[@swansonalex]

I went and looked apparently there is a trending button right between home and subs on the app. I've never noticed it

[@RealKingChief]

Just want to say great profile name; maybe one day Benpai will notice you

[@JamesSaga1]

Googled the little mermaid actress and she looks like a great choice

[@pieman123456]

Alex "cis white male" Smith

[@25Dzone]

Ross' cam looks like it's some sort of "meme cam", it cuts to him a little to jarringly and too close cropped for me to take it seriously lool

[@AetherialYoutube]

I mean *I'd* buy the three boy bath water tbh

[@faceyfacefaceface]

Man those guys at the end really wore out and violated poor Smith's name.

[@OgreDLink]

KZbin Trending is like ign reviews. As long as you pay enough you get there. Also ive been watching your old worms vids from before i subbed when idk what to watch lol.

[@Oldaccount-hb4vw]

"These teens wont be having sex until they're at least 16," - Alsmiffy with the most untrue statement about the UK

[@iblame_nargles]

25:00

[@meganduncanson16]

i fucking love splash

[@gregorB92]

I never open the trending tab and im sure most people dont

[@tuffkay7864]

I'm a simple man...I see Belle Delphine, I click the thumbnail

[@chanmaydo2036]

about smith trying to be nice to the girl, i probably wouldnt react very well either. he established himself as someone affiliated with the weirdos and then tried to be like "just fyi im not a bad guy :)". i can definitely see how smith can be misconstrued there. i mean, a stranger has zero credibility beyond their visible actions, after all.

[@AkiraChan24]

That's a really important point. It's well-intended, but I think those situations necessitate discomfort for the sake of the greater good. Otherwise it won't really make any difference because that woman's perception of men as a whole isn't the real issue in that situation, so that being the talking point would probably feel more frustrating for her (like, I'd probably think "Is that really the takeaway here?")

[@MarzMonkey]

38:30: the start of them dancing around victim blaming; even though Belle Delphine is completely asking for this type of audience with these sexy-tease style stunts.

[@jt1687]

Yeah people shouldn't be creepy, but they are and she is 100% aware of her audience and the potential consequences of her actions.

[@MrOliBug]

how can smith say 'sorry im a sis white male' with a straight face?

[@finntraynor3904]

vruh it freaked me out when they were talking about trotts child

[@GretchenDawntreader]

what's going to be lost in the new Lion King, is with the old animated characters they would use the mannerisms and expressions of the voice actors to reflect in the animation of the characters. In the new version where the lion looks like a lion, nothing in the way that lion's face moves is going to express whatever star they hire to do the voice. It's going to look like a lion.

[@GretchenDawntreader]

I mean in Finding Nemo, there was no mistaking the fish was Ellen Degeneres.

[@samuelayles9547]

H20 was the thing! So funny

[@joshwiddows9176]

The sex festival happened like 20 mins down the road from me, it happened in Welland. So glad that's what Malvern's known for, lmao.

[@AkiraChan24]

A huge part of advocating and genuinely trying to fix the systemic objectification of women is by men intervening when they see a man being gross. Not by talking to her afterward (since that's not technically intervening) but by talking to the guy. Because men who slap a woman's ass in a pub aren't going to listen when a woman objects. They will pay far more attention to another guy because they respect men more than women. Even if he doesn't listen to that guy, I can guarantee, that woman has already subconsciously done the math and knows she can face much worse if she were to intervene for herself or another woman in the same way. Helping fix the problem will entail a lot of discomfort and risk taking for men, but they need to know that for woman, that risk has always been there and their likelihood of success is going to be very different.

[@tbombinator0182]

Bring Craig on the podcast!!

[@pizzapielemon]

Honestly, if you make a living out of titillating people and posting pictures of yourself meant to be tempting, it's not odd that you'll receive creepy messages. Yeah, you shouldn't, but it's not a new phenomena on the internet. Every person who grew up with the internet was always warned: Don't put pictures of yourself up on the internet, you'll get creepy messages. If you then proceed to make a living out of it, yeah, you can expect that this shit is going to happen.

[@moondusk8385]

Also talking about Disney they are also doing live action (as they ar calling them) of Lady And The Tramp. ive heard a rumor that they might be doing Fox And The Hound and Pinocchio.

[@GronkGames]

Smith's reaction to social media and him muting people is understandable. I've recently deleted all my social media just because it was draining my time and energy mentally and physically. I was constantly seeing the opinions of people i would never normally see in everyday life if I was just talking to them in person and then interacting with complete strangers because they say something completely unacceptable or straight up untrue. Since leaving social media I've been much more relaxed and had more time to be creative and explore new things.

[@VideoSage]

The "ice cream lickers" should be prosecuted if they post such a thing online. Furthermore, such a thing does damage the entirety of society, by putting others at risk of exposure disease, as well as spreading an unsanitary behavior as acceptable. Furthermore, something you have mentioned, is that the Jack Arse guys were a bad influence on people, but the majority of the time, their harm would only be done to willing participants, or to themselves.

[@agraabui]

31K sub for 30K view, very nice

[@sultanabegum9069]

26:51.....gammon