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[@justinsmeer9539]

I can’t believe they didn’t have The 🅱️ancient One, 4 mana 7/7, Prep coin concede, or the sniper guild.

[@prace7812]

Thanks, I've added it to the list under the iceberg just in case I'm ever going to do another (third) version of it :'D

[@panda2069]

Or like never go full northshire

[@mitchelltague3674]

Jesus christ I forgot about The 🅱ancient One

[@seith949]

​@@prace7812did i just miss it or the "Jaina nerf" wasn't included?

[@Q_z_]

​@@seith949you missed it

[@GreyIsWeird]

The big thing about the Ben Brode rap was every Hearthstone release before Un'Goro had a song in the trailer. Un'Goro didn't have one so the community got upset and Ben Brode did a rap so that Un'Goro would have a song.

[@Zologe]

As far as I know, that 100k HP Lich King Tavern Brawl was like... a collaborative thing. So everyone who played it contributed to the overall health loss

[@DerDarkfire1]

Correct. I'm wondering why Rarran never heared of it. I think he refferenced to it being a bug before.

[@yriiiiiii]

I think the lich king voice lines also refers to his interactions with a lot of cards including snowflipper penguin and himself

[@kalimatronix]

And (maybe) the most funny one, is when the Priest steals his "Shut up Priest" and silences him back.

[@belafeldbusch3397]

@@kalimatronixthat one is just so golden

[@sebastianoltean1952]

Mentioned Jaina and Succubus nerfs But let's not forget the huge nerf to Secretkeeper Put some respect on her name

[@night4345]

It's so heartwarming how much Rarran loves the Day9 Jade rant.

[@VVheeli]

I know it was a part of the “??? Achievements”, but I distinctly remember one of the card backs because the method to unlocking it literally took some people 4+ hours and was the most tedious thing imaginable. For Book of Mercenaries, you had to go to the singleplayer adventure and tap a specific spot on the fight preview thing. Then to actually complete it was a 3 PHASES, 8 TIERED FULLY INVISIBLE MAZE. Sure the maze people found out had a specific layout, but every time you would be thrown into it at a random spot so you had to spend 10+ minutes just mapping to make sure you knew exactly where you were. There was like a color-coded “indicator” on the board to tell you if the “boardspace” in front of you was a wall, empty space, a trap, etc. There were buttons to navigate with tank controls, you had cards in hand for dynamite, trinkets you had to pick up, coins. It was imo the most insane thing Hearthstone’s ever done with their game. Implement an actual MAZE into a card game.

[@EverSnaxolotl]

Don't forget that you were very able to completely fail it if you ever ran out of hand space or used your dynamite in the wrong spot.

[@satibel]

It was made to be a thing to do community wide, pretty cool imo. (Though yeah tedious) Still better than the wow hero skin.

[@nekocat34]

even after seeing the closeup of the art, I am still convinced it's a totem snake

[@hollowknight4630]

So the Hakkar thing in WoW was a raid boss (hakkar) who would give a debuff called corrupted blood or something similar and it would spread around the raid team. And there was a glitch where if you recalled or left the boss room while infected it wouldn’t be cleansed and it would spread to people in other areas of the game. This led to a quarantine of infected player characters while a “cure” was being found for it and it was actually studied for real life pandemics and epidemic spread rates and quarantining strategies.

[@statueofgod_]

Probably the coolest bug in a game ever.

[@fragniz]

Fascinating thing is there was a slightly similar bug in RuneScape. And it is actually referred to as an in-universe event despite being an accident. Basically, there was a group who went into a PvP area (can't remember which one), and were screwing around. They teleported back to a city called Falador, and the PvP flag was still set on their characters. So, they were able to attack players outside of PvP zones. But, of course, everyone else had the normal restrictions, so they couldn't retaliate. Also, reason I specified the city is because the event became known as the Falador Massacre.

[@vuko8767]

IIRC the bug was specific to Hunter (and maybe Warlock?) pets, that was the only way to smuggle the contagion out of the raid.

[@sebastianlavallee706]

You're mixing two different events but yes. (Edit: No, OP was right, I just misunderstood and got mixed up as well) The corrupted blood could stay on dismissed pets and if they were called back in the middle of a city with low lvls, it would wipe them out. The infection / plague event was the event for the first expansion, where "the scourge" started infecting players who would turn into zombies if they died with it - and then be hostile to all other players & infect them. That did indeed lead to pandemic like situations with quarantine outside the major cities.

[@badcatgames783]

Actually, if you left the boss area it woild cleanse. But if your pet was infected and was "stored" the debuff wouldn't cleanse and when you summoned your pet it would infect everyone else and you.

[@EDoyl]

Violet Wurm was designed by a former MtG designer, the same guy who made the MtG Wurm card. He designed the same card twice.

[@SmashCentralOfficial]

9:28 Holy shit the graph of Worgen Greaser vs Boulderfist Ogre made me laugh WAY more than was warranted Jesus Christ

[@jansolarz6488]

You can get bigglesworth in wild as well. If you have 5 cats on board with kelthuzad from scholomance academy, you will get bigglesworth in hand

[@NailGunZero]

I comment to boost engagement of the video. After I finish I shall do it again.

[@privatepengu]

Based

[@michalsklenar7578]

You are a good man, thank you

[@projectx5154]

Npc moment

[@redsnipingshot]

The only things I expected to see and didn't are the Corridor Creeper nerf and the Starving Buzzard nerf. Absolutely killed those cards. Also how the Priest spell Fade became Shadow Word: Death.

[@lox8031]

🐛In the dungeon I go deeper🐛in set reviews I was a sleeper🐛when minions die I get cheaper🐛You guessed it right🐛I'm corridor creeper🐛

[@xanithdegroot5407]

Small missed thing: Upgraded Shadowform. Back in the day priest had a spell (I think it was an epic?) to enter Shadowform, like the one Benadictus can put you in, however the card had another effect that if you were already in shadow form it upgraded your shadowform hero power to deal 3 damage instead of two.

[@LlorracTN]

For unicorn priest I wish you showed the Yu-gi-oh spoof with Kripp

[@Dylan03917]

1:04:07 When rarrans tried to read out that "as -us" as a part of the name it killed me. So so bad at reading names and anything surrounding them apparently lmao. Loved the video.

[@freezig0712]

Been playing since 2016. Just now realized it's not a snake wrapped around a totem. Appreciate it ❤

[@tomatolover1215]

Awesome video, but I'm sad the Fierce Monkey/Candy Shop mashup got left out

[@prace7812]

If you guys have any further questions about the topics on this iceberg or know some further topics missing from it, feel free to ask me/reply below! :)

[@dedodododedadada5478]

Omega Defender's card art would make an interesting iceberg entry

[@Doom1491]

The Galvadon Song should be on there

[@Lendark54321]

Not sure if it belongs, but maybe Radio Kappa? It was popular among the early HS community.

[@kurre5644]

plug dj / hearthstone meme songs, maybe its more twitch related but thats my favourite memory from early HS

[@randomcatname7792]

I agree that the Galvadon song should 100% be there

[@PyroPandaMan]

I still to this day believe ropecoach would decide his turn in a normal amount of time and daydream until the rope started because tilting your opponent gives you an advantage.

[@thechickenlord9617]

You mentioned that the Maxima C'thun bug wat hotfixed quickly but it actually wasn't quick. It took way longer than expected and a game dev was actually caught using the bug on ladder lol

[@namesurname5911]

Also, about Hecklebot: I believe "Evil Heckler" also had two voicelines and i would guess was like an inspiration for Hecklebot. And at least 1 other card has sort of a variety of voicelines, from Dalaran Crusader, that sometimes would say an easter egg voiceline "I can't see anything with this helmet!".

[@greggp4840]

TIL taunt totem isnt a snake. Been playing since launch.

[@badwulff]

11:23 I'm relatively sure that the reason it became a meme is actually because the expansion was delayed (several times, I believe?), because of technical/schedule difficulties, Team 5's inexperience (at the time, they _were_ unironically a somewhat "small indie dev"), and general chaos surrounding an entirely new release format for the game. So - I'm not sure on this part, but I think this is what happened - people would troll streamers by spamming their Twitch chats with "Naxx out", to try and bait them into opening the game, only to be faced with disappointment. It then became a running joke for the following expansions.

[@TrimutiusToo]

What is important about annoy-o-tron achievements is that losing to him gives 1 point and winning with him gives 9... which is very annoying as it make numbers not round unless you complete both (I got killed by annoy-o-tron once, and it took me months to finish someone with it)

[@rb9835]

Guess you can say that's pretty....annoying?

[@prace7812]

Yeah, this "gimmick" is the very reason I even put this topic on the iceberg (and explained it in the notes I had sent Rarran). Unfortunately, it wasn't mentioned. :/

[@SmashCentralOfficial]

11:44 the meme lives on every 3 months because we all say naxx out regardless of the expansion LOL

[@OmegaShanic]

Just to mention a bonus one: WoW expansion teasers in Hearthstone. Multiple ideas, mechanics, and expansions for future WoW updates have been teased in Hearthstone. The most famous of these is through the Tirion Fordring card, released during Mists of Pandaria time for WoW, features Tirion having his shield shattered, dying, and giving you the Ashbringer. Exactly those events is how Paladins received their artifact Ashbringer in Legion, the WoW expansion that released two expansions after Mists of Pandaria.

[@Dragonoid9810]

In the defense of Nozdormu Turn Skip, back in 2014 before all the expansions were added, very very few (if any at all) cards actually had special animations when they were played. Plus since it was mainly only ever used late game, along with the very limited options for deck building (definitely compared to modern day HS), most players never actually considered abusing any of the more technical mechanics back then lol

[@JacobWrestledGod]

My absolute fav type of Rarran videos, just Rarran talking like a old man about times gone

[@m3e7]

The worst part about Naga Sea Witch was that it was a mechanical change Hearthstone made years after NSW came out. Originally, it would hard set everything's cost to 5, the idea being you play it on turn 10 and then could play any card alongside it, and it wasnt good. At some point they decided to change cards that self discount to apply afterwards and the deck shot to infamy

[@speedpants8915]

"Professor George Herbert Doyle IV" should've been on here, he was a character used for a few live-action videos for the Un'goro expansion that have all been privated by Hearthstone for unknown reasons. It was framed as a kids show centered around exploring and camping in Un'goro and it's really weird that you can't watch them at all anymore.

[@AshfcknKetchum]

I'm so glad you included that clip of Reckful slamming his desk after getting linked the little puzzle. Even when muted, I can hear the "Come oooooon. That was not kewl"

[@prace7812]

Yeah, I made sure to link this exact video clip with the timestamp in the notes I sent to Rarran. The troll is imo so much better than the original gameplay clip, lol.

[@mariaszegedy6044]

i feel bad in hindsight about the reckful trolls. who knows how much it contributed to his depression?

[@crackedwindowproductions]

Here's one everyone seems to forget. A player named MaSsanSC (look on KZbin) was found to have thousands upon thousands of viewers on his twitch live streams but hardly anyone was ever talking in his chat. He was later accused of fake viewers and using bots and was banned from twitch and his reputation went down hill after. Now he has no online presence anywhere.

[@MsAnderername]

People always said back then P4nyhof has bots, which felt pretty obviously, but idk if it was true.

[@byeguyssry]

19:10 Also, once you got it, it was automatically set as your default card back until you changed it.

[@NeuroEnjoyer69]

11+4.. I miss Reckful too :(

[@turntsnaco824]

Blitzchung was definitely massive; the very next day after it all went down, I was hanging out with an activist friend who has never played, maybe never even HEARD of Hearthstone, and barely spent any time on the internet, and she already knew about it.

[@ethanmontgomery6132]

Interesting that DougDoug mentioned with the Reno skin, but his HS past was not on the Iceberg. Rarran mentioned he was involved with HS Esports, but not his youtube content. Originally his channel was named Gloudas and had funny Hearthstone content (I remember HS sound effects in real life, and buying/breaking many cartons of eggs to determine what card you should pick in arena). The videos are all actually still on the DougDoug channel as the very first videos made, and its interesting to see how far he evolved from his Hearthstone roots.

[@Will-hp5mb]

Never forget epic murloc sax.

[@Q_z_]

And the video on why Pavel held the trophy for so long

[@dracotoy]

Holy shit dougdoug was a HS channel? Never wouldve guessed that

[@kocisz4163]

I think the reason they changed sacrificial pact, was becouse Zephrys would always offer it against Jaraxxus meaning Jaraxxus was an insta lose against highlander. At least thats how i remember it

[@m3e7]

Didn't that change happen at the same time they changed Jaraxxus into a hero card? I thought that was the reason the interaction changed

[@MsAnderername]

I honestly dont know why they changed it, but back then I felt in love again with Hearthstone after discovering Galakrond Warlock and 1-2 weeks later they nerfed sacrifical pact and this nerfed the deck so hard that I took a break again, I felt attacked :D Idk how good the deck was overall in the meta, but I had huge success with it.

[@LexPreit]

That was amazing!!!! Loved the video. Pity it’s too short (rly, want more!!!!)

[@Hazaak.]

All i'll say about the succubus and jaina thing. My favorite tweet was when they changed the women painting in WoW to the bowl of fruit. And a women replied "This just makes it seem like all blizzard thinks is women are objects that are inherently sexual that should be covered up. Very cool blizzard"

[@dracotoy]

Plus the fruit painting incident was during their by far worst wow patch for years (arguably the worst ever)

[@jackmcaninch4270]

When is the rarran iceberg dropping?

[@sals4767]

If I'm being honest, your suggestion sounds very picante

[@Xgya2000]

I absolutely LOVED the WoW TCG. The game was good. Coming from Magic: The Gathering, was in awe at their solution to the mana issue, among other things

[@CasperFrimann]

Amazing video, 1½ hrs just flew by. Thanks Rarren

[@owlson2527]

Holy hell, this sent me back

[@byeguyssry]

54:00 They didn't really "confirm" it. They did not intentionally mean to tease Reno being a dragon but after seeing the community's theory's solid evidence that happened by accident, they decided to make it real

[@oakesiii3412]

I've tried to watch this video about 15 times now and always fall asleep a hour in

[@martinodonnell7096]

there are SO many DEEP ones that weren't touched upon. The Life Coach sex stream, "Hi Mom", the Reynad vs Xixo feud, and the Magic Amy controversy (you have the inside scoop with Reynad on that one)

[@kopakanuva566]

The fun thinh avout Violet Wurm and Symbiotic Wurm is that both cards were designed by the same man years apart and in different card games!

[@prace7812]

Yeah, this is imo a much more interesting trivia than them just being basically the same card, which is why I included it into the notes I sent to Rarran with a link to the official dev comment, but it wasn't included, unfortunately. :/

[@Neltharak]

lmfao the soundbyte at 34:35, "philosophers among us" in the background

[@GoggleCandy]

I'm just now rewatching this and when he got to Grimoire of Service which is essentially what Shattered Reflections became, and that card got nerfed twice. So yeah, Blizzard probably had the right idea with cutting the card.

[@gexianhen]

the lich king with 100.000 health was a tabern brawl event where every player who figth him will add to the damage so eventually he was defeated by the collective efforts of all the players. someting similar was done when diablo 3 was release and we figth diablo with 100.000 health too

[@cliffordadam100]

cool video idea; thanks for the explainations on the obscure stuff I didn't know

[@slapstick9047]

on release if you played shudderwock and then instantly ended turn, the shudderwock animations would end up skipping over your whole opponents turn essentially giving you pseudo time warp

[@FiendMatadorSlayerOfNoobs]

18:56 Oh yeah. I EXPERIENCED that plague in WoW firsthand. It was geniuenly one of the most terrifying events I've ever been a part of in a video game. The piles of bones, people fleeing the major hubs, ne'er-do-wells intentionally spreading it, people trying to spam Cure Disease. The sounds of people dying all around me, being chased around by one of the infected, a member of my own guild no less. It was apocalyptic.

[@yargolocus4853]

it was also an excellent study in how people act in pandemia. it became a genuinely useful piece in predicting how real life outbreaks develop.

[@TheWrestlingNerd]

"How one card broke a card game" was my introduction to Rarran and is still what i show to people who think card games aren't cheesy games

[@victorhaigh2335]

1 hr 20 mins video from Rarran? Okay, I'm sat

[@sammorales3336]

I did the annoytron one by accident in a tavern brawl, had a huge one using the newish rogue mech stuff. Could have attacked with any of my 5 minions for lethal and just chose him randomly

[@crookst_fan]

6:28 I first played hearthstone around 2015 and actively from 2017 to 2020 and I ALWAYS thought this was a snake-totem or something like that. My life will never be the same...

[@Faythe1981]

I was actually at the Blizzcon for the 11+4 moment. Got a picture with Reckful and Kripp. It was called the "Hearthstone Invitational" as Blizzard invited the most popular streamers of the game to compete in a tournament. It was by far the least attended event at Blizzcon since Hearthstone was still so new. I cherish that memory.

[@trentsims]

The ??? achievements that reward card backs are all still in the game and they mostly work, but some are slightly broken because many of them are puzzles based on minion tribes and we have gotten new tribes and now duel tribes added to the game since their release, and if the random minions you get in your puzzle are of these tribes the puzzle is bricked and can't be solved. Also some puzzles require you to use certain deck lists or play certain cards in certain orders. Only the original versions of these cards will work. If it came out in the Witchwood, you have to use the Witchwood version.

[@bodkie]

Not only would Shudderwock force you to watch animations after conceding, I believe Shudderwock animations could and would cut into the opponent's own turn timer after your own turn had passed.

[@TigerKirby215]

I was playing back in Raastakan's: the reason Grimoire of Servitude (probably) wasn't printed is because Cubelock was still fresh in everyone's mind. It was still a high tier deck even after nerfs and people REALLY didn't want to give Cubelock more support.

[@joshg2188]

Good content Rarran

[@Dryingpan005]

Another certified classic Rarran video

[@DarkJak]

"I will let this one speak for itself" *speaks for it*

[@doodlegarbage6769]

This will be a fun watch

[@kevinjudson4140]

My favorite part of the unicorn priest meme was the fan video that was ben brode as yugi vs kripp as kaiba.

[@johnfree2833]

Brand new to every topic here( sobered up at 57) So great intro to a whole universe,thanks...

[@Paxsman]

It was very weird to hear that the Pirates vs Ninjas expansion I made in Highschool is referenced, even in passing, in this video 1:08:58

[@nicolaslalonde2807]

This is the best video on Hearthstone all around. ever.

[@toromisher]

I've been playing since around GvG and have played so many variations of Totem Shaman over the years. Its one of my favorite archetpyes and was so happy when they added all the totem stuff back into core recently. Ik only just now learning that the taunt totem isn't a snake. Note: I am generally a very unobservant person

[@marcoluciani4790]

Dude the Green and Craftsmanship goes hard

[@fyrestorme]

the iceberg graphic is missing: "dr. balanced"

[@D1noBiscuit]

"Signature card flood" actually refers to when they were released, the standard pack pity timer counted every standard card pack you've ever opened so people were getting a lot of signature legendries

[@murlocaggrob2192]

You kinda skipped past it, but the reason Scaleblade was replaced by Kragg is interesting. Originally, Kragg was a 1 mana 1/1 Pirate with Charge that summoned himself from your deck when you played a Pirate. Yep. In playtesting, the devs discovered that Kragg was way too powerful in combination with Ship's Cannon, so they held out on releasing him until rotation. However, Kragg was very prominently featured the TGT trailer, so they couldn't cut him. So, they shifted Scaleblade's design over to Kragg. The only reason we know Scaleblade even existed is because he ALSO appears in the TGT trailer, for about half a second in card form. People constantly asked the devs what this mystery card was, which is why we know the full story.

[@lox8031]

nothing makes me sader than seeing esports live events with huge crowds reacting being old times now.

[@TheZanzou]

They always say there is no secret level, especially when there is one. Don't give up Rarran you'll find it one day

[@andychiu860311]

A song of icebreaker and fiery war axe was made during a time when warrior and shaman were basically unplayable, and they were so bad that VS started to meme on them by writing short stories that eventually became a miniseries.

[@kaorynguyen6812]

The unicorn priest I believe should be about the video of Ben Brode Jr playing VS Kripp using his grandpa purify deck. Either way pretty good video.

[@Zorkalot]

Callin it now. Rarran know something bout that monk class

[@lajosadolfnagy4384]

How could you all forget about the Villanous Nine trailer?

[@Nilmur2]

The Lich Kings health was so high because it was collectively killed, everyone at the event participated in fighting it and tried to dwidle it down before the end of the event

[@meruempro]

People buying classic packs on GvG release should've been here

[@turntsnaco824]

Yeah wtf? Probably pretty high up too....was literally the first expansion and there was an entire compilation of streamers doing it.

[@prace7812]

Great suggestion! I've put it onto the list in case I ever do a third version of the iceberg.

[@grimmmasterofthetroupe3888]

1 hour vid? we eating tonigjt

[@Toxicflu]

wow, so many great memories

[@oddeda]

Nice video. Though it would have helped to actually have some marker that show where you are on the list. It's very vague and hard to find where you are in that mess of an image.

[@AXELwhiteTiger]

Im' geting a sense of deja-vu, had rarran posted a version of this a while back?

[@Alex-RS91]

Missed Un'goro leak, basically one of the voice actors put secrets of un'goro as her voice work on her website, a week or so before expansion was announced. That was pretty huge and expansion release was very underwhelming.

[@MrNightRome]

I dont have the card back, im pure

[@Supercris25]

In case anyone doesn't know, Violet Wurm and the mtg card were quite literally designed by the same person.

[@mrneonsplat]

I don't know if anyone remembers way back in beta at 2 a.m. central time zone the new daily would pop up and you could literally hit refresh until you came across one you wanted, whick at that time was one worth 100g.

[@glebs]

Snowflipper Penguin also showed up in Razakus Priest for part of the Velen machine gun turn

[@thenerdbeast7375]

The Blitzchung controversy absolutely should be first, as even people who don't know what HS is were talking about it.

[@aldarones3419]

Life/Ropechoach also does it to play with the mental of the other player, he was or is a poker player and understood the mind of players prety well, as well as had tons of patience, thats why when the clip where his natural counter "nozdormu" appears he plays like an actual person would do, its not that he cant, he as well as taking all the posibilities in his head, once he had no more mana to spend he would indeed rope, and thats to mess with the mental of the other player, a really good player and unless you are playing with friends doing what he did it something that can mean you win by "default" only by tilting the other player, kinda like in lol if u gank 4 or 5 times the same guy and they are succesful ganks maybe he goes AFK and u win bt "default"

[@AXELwhiteTiger]

what would be super cool for this is a table of contents in the description with timestamps for each meme, like 16:23 for Tapsin

[@norman157]

I always thought the Stoneclaw Totem was just a murloc squatting with a glowing body

[@Awkwerp]

I honestly thought it was like a jade snake statue until just now

[@briankelly1240]

"curvestone" in there? Always resonated with me in early hearthstone. Turn 1 one drop, turn 2 two drop, ect., don't miss your curve!

[@foxsnipushiwa8431]

the split Cthun have a flavour text that is a direct ref for Yugioh