The Hebrew Roots error regarding the tutor of Galatians 3

Hebrew Roots teacher Steve (from Torah Family, formerly of 119 Ministries) recently put out an alarming video on Galatians 3. In it, he makes the case that the "tutor" that the Apostle Paul mentions in Galatians 3:24-25 is referring to the curse of the Law of Moses, not the Law itself. And the fact is that Steve has put out a false teaching that leads his viewers to believe something different than what the Bible says. So if you’re a fan of Steve’s teachings, or 119 Ministries, I think you’re gonna find my breakdown of his teaching pretty sobering.
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Steve's video, "The Tutor: Updated and Expanded"
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Addressing a false teaching
01:58 Three red flags (warning signs)
07:15 A few of Steve’s claims
14:37 The case that Steve built
15:58 The curse of the law
20:11 The nature of faith
25:05 Transgression, thus the tutor
25:37 Steve’s interpretation goes wrong
27:44 Wrap it up, Solberg
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El maestro de raíces hebreas Steve (de Torah Family, anteriormente de 119 Ministries) publicó recientemente un video alarmante sobre Gálatas 3. En él, argumenta que el "tutor" que el apóstol Pablo menciona en Gálatas 3:24-25 se refiere a la maldición de la Ley de Moisés, no a la Ley misma. Y es que Steve ha sacado una enseñanza falsa que lleva a sus televidentes a creer algo diferente a lo que dice la Biblia. Entonces, si eres fanático de las enseñanzas de Steve, o de 119 Ministries, creo que encontrarás mi análisis de sus enseñanzas bastante aleccionador.

[@JMichaelW18]

Just let everyone know when Steve quotes Galatians 3:22 He is using the NIV 1985 version - Galatians 3:24-25 (NIV): 24 So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law. - the reason why Solberg had trouble finding the translation is because the NIV change its wording in the NIV 2011 - Galatians 3:24-25 (NIV2011): 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian. - The Bible program he was using had the 2011 NIV not the 1985 NIV. That’s why he had problems not because of Steve.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Ah! Thank you very much Michael. Blessings, Rob

[@meseekingyah3041]

@@jameshall1968 very well said.

[@MB-vi8zp]

I'm so glad you're addressing Galatians 3. Reading this chapter for myself and taking it at face value was what finally woke me up out of the Hebrew Roots movement after nearly two decades in it. It's been a long journey of untangling the lies I believed, but I'm finally free by the grace of God. Looking forward to the next video.

[@sundownsam3369]

Tell me, while you were with the Hebrew roots movement, did you have a relationship with God in Yeshua? just curious to know. You will probably not answer this question and if you don't I can tell you why. Now you will probably ask me why.

[@MB-vi8zp]

@@sundownsam3369 I did have a relationship with God but there was a lot I did not understand. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at.

[@JGez83]

@@MB-vi8zp he is a troll pay him no mind

[@BibleStudyCompany]

@@JGez83 looks like that is a true statement as convoluted as the question was asked. Oh well.

[@sundownsam3369]

@@MB-vi8zp With what you posted and what I asked, you should have been able to understand why I asked you that question. Now, if you had a relationship with God, it would imply that you were walking with Christ, because to know Christ is to know the Father, right? So, what you are stating is that you left the God that you got to know through Yeshua because you did not understand a lot of things and went to the God of Christianity, and now you understand lots of things. The question is, is the Hebrew roots movement a false religion? If you answer yes to this question, then why did you say that you had a relationship with God while you were involved with them? You will probably avoid answering this question and end the conversation. Let me give you some honest advice. If you do not understand some things, it is okay. If you ask God and do your own studying instead of listening to and falling into the doctrine of man, the Spirit of God will enlighten your mind with a true understanding of what God made clear the first time he spoke. You can listen to teachers, but you have to make sure they are teaching according to the scriptures. Rob is pulling verses out of context and pushing a doctrine that he believes in but is not scriptural. Don't be impressed with someone's biblical educational background, and remember this, "we are not called to wear collars around our necks; only dogs wear them" (by sundownsam)

[@cnmordecai]

His name is Steve Moutria. I just received your book and so far I am loving it. I am a former Torahist who still observes the sabbath and feast days, simply because they point to Christ and I have found having a day to rest and focus on him very rewarding.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

That's beautiful! Thank you. Rob

[@digimike8]

@cnmordecai can you share the turning point or process for leaving Torahism?

[@cnmordecai]

@@digimike8 hi Michael. I don’t know how much help I can be. I can’t say there was a true turning point. Keeping things like kosher and whatnot didn’t really seem to provide any benefit to overcoming the flesh. I also was put off by the spiritual pride and bad theology that seemed to infect most everyone that gets into torahism. People divide over things like whether it’s ok to eat marshmallows because the contain pork gelatin, or what calendar to use, as well as a host of petty differences. I began to see that torahism wasn’t the more authentic, biblically based path that I thought it was. I wound up running back to the church I had fled so that I could focus on Christ again. I also studied the early church and I was bothered that no one seemed to get the memo that gentiles should be keeping Torah. There were things in hebrews and Galatians that never quite added up for me. I watched videos from people like 119 ministries, and I found their explanations wanting. I slowly started eating pepperoni on my pizza again, then I finally ate a pork chop one day. It was and has been a long process, and there wasn’t really one particular thing. It was a variety of confounding factors. Oh, And I started really diving into the New Testament, one thing I could not get past was acts 21, which flat out states that it was decided not to enforce Torah onto the gentiles. Also the Patriarchs were considered righteous before Torah was given. Abraham is even named as keeping God’s Torot, plural of Torah before the Torah of Moses was given. As mr. Solberg writes in his book, the law of God in principle is eternal, but not it’s various expressions. I began to see this, as well as the fact that The law of God changes even within the law itself. Example: Yahweh declares that all of Israel are priests. Then, after the golden calf incident, only the tribe of Levi are priests, specifically Aaron and his sons. The command to wear tassels isn’t added until numbers, after they execute a sabbath breaker. So the entire premise on which torahism is built, that being that the Torah is immutable and eternal, came crumbling down. I believe God’s law is good, that eating kosher is healthier, I believe that there is a blessing in the sabbath, and that the feast days can be joyous times that serve as object lessons about our messiah, but they are not required, nor do they make one righteous. Hope this helps, please feel free to respond with any more questions or comments Michael. Leaving torahism has set me free to serve God in the spirit, not in the old way of the written code.

[@digimike8]

@@cnmordecai Thank you for a very informative answer. I have a family member that's gone HR over the last 5 years. Its challenged me to study harder than ever. Your mentioning marshmallows hits home along with several other points. This family is camping for Sukkot right now. Your answer will help me ask some questions of them to help them think. God Bless you.

[@cnmordecai]

@@digimike8 God bless you as well Michael. Feel free to reach out if there is anything more I can do. If you haven’t bought the Torahism book yet I recommend it.

[@davbra12]

Thank you Professor Solberg! The value in your videos cannot be overstated. I appreciate how you gently let the heretics incriminate themselves with their own words and misguided, or flat out erroneous, theological ideologies. That’s an area I need to develop in. I’m not near as nice as you are. With continual fellowship with Christ and His love, I’ll get there. I look forward to seeing the deep dive into Galatians 3! These videos are so helpful! Keep up the great work! Thanks again!

[@Joe-pc3hs]

How is your comment unlike the pharisaic argumentation in the realm of heresy?

[@Pverb623]

I find it interesting that the professor keeps saying ….that’s not what the Bible says……..then says that my Jewish scripture says things that it doesn’t say…..!?!? Hypocritical….?

[@PUSH2Tim]

Thank you so much for addressing these false teachings and breaking it down the way you do. That’s a gift. It seems like they have to make things so complicated to make their view fit. I was so confused trying to follow him. It’s so much easier to understand the scriptures if I read them for myself. 🙌✝️🙏♥️

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Amen, Rosemary! Bless you, Rob

[@nickg5010]

'It’s so much easier to understand the scriptures if I read them for myself'. That is because the Scriptures themselves do not lie. Someone trying to expound on the meaning of a text could however be in error (eg: because they are lazy or incompetent) or could simply be lying in support of some hidden agenda.

[@MrsNuttyBar1]

Could Steve's "translation" be the Cepher book? My family member in this movement uses that quite a bit...

[@nathannewell5512]

I am not a learned person as Mr. Solberg apparently is. I don't have a PhD, masters, nor bachelor's degree in any subject. That is why I attempt to do GOD's will as He states it, not as tradition teaches it. With that being said it seems to me that people put more emphasis on the writings of Paul than what YESHUA, (JESUS) Himself states in the gospels. I believe any Scripture that seems to contradict Scripture is my own misunderstanding and that I need to do more study and pray that YHWH will guide me to His Truth. I believe we should do as Scriptures teaches not as tradition and men say.

[@norakotze2575]

Paul was the apostle to the gentiles and Paul taught mysteries that was revealed to him. Pauls focus was always on Christ by his great commission, which was to bring sinners to faith in Christ. So there is no reason to think that Paul was not teaching Christ.

[@BelindaTN]

There are no contradictions in the Bible. Only our misunderstandings of scripture. The more you study and understand the Bible, the more the perceived contradictions go away.

[@ancientconnections9370]

Excellent rebuttal! Would love to see a Debate with you and Daniel Joseph of Corner Fringe Ministries 👀

[@BibleStudyCompany]

Yes pls that debate would be awesome!

[@danielnicholas5911]

Doubt Dr.Solberg can handle Daniel Joseph except on his current KZbin format where he doesn't get any rebuttal while talking to a camera.

[@savvycavvy7859]

A shout out to all of the KZbinrs commenting. Please remember to be kind! You may agree or disagree with Professor Solberg, and he has been generous and kind enough to allow comments. I speak blessings to all of you, whether you agree or disagree. But honestly, you should be addressing the video, not using this forum to insult other believers who happen to agree with the video.

[@johanneangers2]

Fully 100% agree, God bless

[@salpezzino8650]

Not all are Believers. May I ask, how do you speak blessings?

[@johanneangers2]

@@salpezzino8650 How do judge and determine who are not believers? Are you the one separating the sheeps from the goats?

[@salpezzino8650]

Johanna, I see you are still Nutz. I wasn't judging away. Are you an Universalist?

[@johanneangers2]

@@salpezzino8650 Then try explaining what your saying in a clear structured explanation. Your one line phrases are not defined.

[@menderkoure6442]

Professor. I like your way of break down the other side of teaching. Like Rabbi Singer and Steve. Point by point. Outstanding!

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thank you so much, Mender! Blessings, Rob

[@menderkoure6442]

@@TheBiblicalRoots I notticed in the debate Rabbi Singer with you. His counter argument about Genesis 19:24. He said God called even Moses Elohim over his brother Aron. But in the verse Genesis 19:24 you see the name JHWH two times. So Not Elohim or Adonai as he mentioned.

[@michaelestrella2791]

Hey Rob, thanks a lot bud. You're a blessing to many, thank you for helping us to understand and know truth, thank you for all your hard work..may God continue to bless you brotha.

[@Pverb623]

He created sophisms……! He truly isn’t helping you……

[@michaelestrella2791]

@@Pverb623 you're lost man,. I'll pray for you

[@Pverb623]

@@michaelestrella2791 Christian….correct! Prayer for me…..for what……..I’m healthy…..my family is healthy……..I have land……….most importantly I have Torah! Joshua 1:8 Study this Book of Instruction continually. Meditate on it day and night so you will be sure to obey everything written in it. Only then will you prosper and succeed in all you do. Yet Christian’s want to pray for me! Christians don’t even read their own book, let alone read Hebrew. …..I’m lost……? Proverbs 21:16- A person who wanders from the intelligent way will rest in the congregation of the dead……… Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Holy One is insight. Yet your king if kings is the first born of the dead…..3x from the NT. My God is the God of gods….Deuteronomy 10:17- “For the LORD your God is the God of gods and Lord of lords. He is the great God, the mighty and awesome God, who shows no partiality and cannot be bribed. Psalms 119:21 You rebuke the accursed willful sinners who stray from Your commandments. I have an intimate relationship with the book my God gave me…..you?

[@michaelestrella2791]

May God open your eyes brother

[@Pverb623]

@@michaelestrella2791 How could I read your response…….not my brother!

[@janelllucas686]

Hi there, I'm wondering if you can help me with something that one of my Torah keeping friends said. They said that Cain and Abel knew to make sacrifices because God had given them the law verbally.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Hi Janell! It's certainly possible that God gave them commands for making an offering. But He certainly didn't give them the Law of Moses. In fact, the offerings we see them making in Genesis 4 were not made according to the Mosaic requirements. For example there was no tabernacle yet, and no Levitical priesthood. The law of Moses wouldn't be given until many centuries later. Blessings, Rob

[@janelllucas686]

@@TheBiblicalRoots thank you.

[@johanneangers2]

@@TheBiblicalRoots wasn’t the tabernacle representative of the heavenly Holy place of the Creator? And wasn’t the Creator sometimes seen as walking in the holy Garden of Eden also representative of the heavenly Holy place of the Creator? Wasn’t the firstborn son considered as priests before the Levitical priesthood was implemented? To say the laws of Moses would of been unknown to them, but when we read the book of Enoch and the book of Jubilees. We see that Enoch was given the same laws given to Moses.

[@johanneangers2]

...Cain BROUGHT an offering of the fruit of the ground to the Lord. Abel also BROUGHT of the firstborn of his flock and of their fat. And the Lord respected Abel and his offering, - Genesis 4 : 3-4 There you shall take your burnt offerings, your sacrifices, YOUR TITHES the heave offerings of your hand, your vowed offerings, your freewill offerings, and the FIRSTBORN of your herds and flocks. AND THERE YOU SHALL EAT BEFORE THE LORD YOUR GOD, and you shall rejoice in all to which you have put your hand, you and your households, in which the Lord your God has blessed you. - Deuteronomy 12 : 6-7 that you shall take some of the first of all the produce of the ground, which you shall bring from your land that the Lord your God is giving you, and put it in a basket and go to THE PLACE WHERE THE LORD YOUR GOD CHOOSES TO MAKE HIS NAME ABIDE. - Deuteronomy 26 : 2 Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, “Consecrate to Me all the firstborn, whatever opens the womb among the children of Israel, both of man and beast; it is Mine.” - Exodus 13 : 1-2 Garden of Eden sounds like that place, also we know Adam was the firstborn son, and we see that both his sons Brought offerings to give to the Creator of the Garden of Eden. “Now behold, I Myself have taken THE LEVITES from among the children of Israel INSTEAD OF EVERY FIRSTBORN who opens the womb AMONG THE CHILDREN of Israel. Therefore the Levites shall be Mine, - Numbers 3 : 12

[@johanneangers2]

@@BibleStudyCompany I am showing verses that match what is seen happening in Genesis. This match can only happen if they knew the commandments. It would of been Impossible to follow what is written without someone teaching you what to do and how to do it. I don't think the two brothers just woke up one day and started offering God the gifts they did without knowing.

[@davelyn786]

Have you responded to Steve about his messages critiquing some things you said on a podcast? I would love to see you guys talk. He’s a nice guy. You’re a nice guy. Should be a good conversation.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

He does seem like a genuinely nice guy! I've had a few people forward that Torahism series to me and I watched half of the first episode, but I haven't responded. The difficulty for me is that Steve tends to pile claims on top of each other and link them together with non-sequiturs. So when I trace out his arguments, it starts to feel like untangling a bowl of spaghetti, to be honest. You can see specific examples of how he builds his arguments in this video. It took quite a bit of work for me to untangle his Tutor teaching! So I haven't been motivated to sit through his 9-part series and respond. Yet. Blessings! Rob

[@elijahirvin5911]

I love how you read Ephesians chapter 2 verse 9 but didn't read Ephesians chapter 2 verse 10 where it says we should walk in Good works what are those good works keeping the ten commandments and Torah.

[@davelyn786]

Steve has responded to this video. Have you watched it?

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

I have, indeed.

[@yosefyahu4778]

When you believe, you obey! James 2:18 Faith without works is dead! You express your faith by your works!

[@donthephoneman7084]

Are the Hebrew roots movement similar to the seventh day Adventist?

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Hi Don. Hebrew Roots (in general) and Seventh Day Adventists (in general) share the belief that the Saturday Sabbath should be kept. But other than that they have fairly different motivations and theologies. As I understand it, SDA (in general) does not keep the Torah feasts, or kosher food, or seek to incorporate Hebrew rituals and traditions into their worship of God. And many SDA believe some weird things based on the teachings of Ellen G White that Hebrew Roots (in general) does not endorse. Shalom, Rob

[@donthephoneman7084]

@@TheBiblicalRoots thank you , Rob. 👍

[@nickmansfield1]

13:56 Abraham did not walk according to the Mosaic Law, correct, but the Torah is a series of documents which must be understood as, instruction.

[@debblouin]

Wasn’t the Law brought to fill up the awareness of our inability to be righteous on our own account as well as to foreshadow the coming faith that would set us free?

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

I agree, Debra! Those are a couple of purposes of the law as mentioned in Scripture. Blessings, Rob

[@yosefyahu4778]

Don't you just love Mr. Solberg's Ad Hominem references to Steve! It's so brotherly like!

[@rocketmanshawn]

Anybody else notice how Steve has not only borrowed Wilbur's (119) arguments but also his cadence and inflection?

[@luiscajigas5567]

If the instruction that God gave, is permissible and not required like what Rob is stating, then why is God going to punish all the nation for not observing the feast of tabernacle? If you think this is for the end time judgment only then you would be mistaken. Because why would God punish a nation if they did not know they should be observing it in the first place, is it because the torah is for everyone,

[@shawn-wr8ux]

@@luiscajigas5567 its for the jews at a certain time come on your being slow man

[@cnmordecai]

In fairness Steve has been teaching for a much longer time. He was one of the original 119 ministries teachers and he has always talked the way he does

[@luiscajigas5567]

@@shawn-wr8ux Yeshua said that the Sabbath was made for man, tell me is man means Israel to you, or is Yeshua included all men in his response?

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

I'm not hip to the history of 119, but I did notice the similarities between Steve and David. They both use the word "thus" a lot. :-) Rob

[@sundownsam3369]

Rob, please respond briefly to the following two questions, could be with a yes or no. If God makes a perpetual (everlasting) covenant with Israel that should be held on the Sabbath, would that Sabbath covenant still in effect? Is the Decalogue eternal?

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

These are great questions, Sam! 1. What do you mean that God made a covenant that "would be held on the Sabbath"? Are you saying that on the last day of each week, God holds a covenant with Israel? Sorry, the wording of your question is unclear to me. 2. No. It's not eternal because it had a beginning. R.

[@sundownsam3369]

@@TheBiblicalRoots Rob, I rephrased the question... If God makes a perpetual (everlasting) covenant with Israel that should be held on the Sabbath, would that Sabbath covenant still in be effect?

[@luiscajigas5567]

@@TheBiblicalRoots Sam is the referring to the existing of God, he is addressing the Decalogue. So, would it safe to assume that according to you, God's decalogue is not eternal because it had a beginning? Is that what you one your listeners to accept? Then, according to you, God should have never used the word "owlam" (perpetual, everlasting) when declaring His covenant with Israel since it has a beginning. You lack understanding of scriptures. So, the law of God placed into your heart is not eternal to you? Can you remove the decalogue from your own heart, or is it permanent until you die? Is heaven eternal, is the earth eternal, is the Kingdom of God eternal, they all have a beginning? Read Roman 1, for a clearer understanding of God place in the hearts of man than tell me they are not eternal.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

​@@sundownsam3369 Hi, Sam. God's covenant with Israel isn't "held on" the Sabbath. Rather, the Sabbath was given as a sign of the Mosaic covenant. After explaining all the rules around the Sabbath command in Ex 31:12-15, God said, "Therefore the people of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, observing the Sabbath throughout their generations, as a covenant forever. It is a sign forever between me and the people of Israel that in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed.’” (Ex 32:16-17) The word translated into English as "forever" is the Hebrew word _olam_. And there isn't really an English equivalent of that word. Olam basically means "a long time ahead," like a distant temporal horizon we can't quite see in front of us. It's a time hidden from present sight. And in English, the word "forever" comes closest to capturing the meaning. And sometimes that's exactly what that text means. But there are many examples in Scripture where olam couldn't have literally meant forever and ever. For example Lev 6:22 says of the priestly grain offering, "The priest from among Aaron's sons, who is anointed to succeed him, shall offer it to the Lord as decreed forever (olam). The whole of it shall be burned." And yet there has not been a temple or a Levitical priesthood for almost 2,000 years. The priestly grain offering came to an end at the destruction of the temple in 70 CE. So I believe the Sabbath, as a sign of the Mosaic covenant, remains between God and the Jewish people. But that covenant has come to and end (Heb 8:13). Not because God broke it, but because Israel did: "my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband" (Jer 31:32). Which is why God in His (literally) eternal mercy, made a New Covenant (Jer 31:31-34, Luke 22:20, Hebrews 8). Blessings, Rob

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

@@luiscajigas5567 Hi Luis. Check out my response to Sam below regarding the Hebrew word "olam." R.

[@tbishop4961]

There's still a "command" key on your computer?😳

[@billyhw5492]

Macs have command keys.

[@tbishop4961]

@@billyhw5492 makes sense. I haven't used one since the 90s

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Yep! It's right there between the Option key and the spacebar. :-)

[@pipinfresh]

I consider myself pronomian. The word was coined by Greg Bahnsen. I consider pronomian Christianity differently than torahism. When I call myself a pronomian Christian I'm considering myself a reformed Christian in the protestant evangelical tradition, but I understand that God's moral law is important and should be kept by Christians, as for the civil and ceremonial laws they are (to borrow your phrase) permitted but not required. though I consider the 7th day Sabbath as a moral law.

[@Jaryism]

Wow great catch cause I actually watched Steve’s vid on accident, so shameless they try to hoodwink us like this.

[@lansan3430]

People needs to stop accusing Paul of teaching against the TORAH, The ultimate spoken word of YHWH which is eternal and unchanging.

[@biltontruth]

You absolutely nailed that Rob! Anyone that watches that video and still holds to Steven's position is spiritually blind. I pray that this will open their eyes to the goodness of the Gospel of Yeshua.

[@billyhw5492]

Prof Solberg's videos are of high quality.

[@sundownsam3369]

I don't care about who is Steve, but tell me what did Rob Solberg nailed?

[@biltontruth]

@@sundownsam3369 did you not watch the video?

[@sundownsam3369]

@@biltontruth Why don't you ask Rob Solberg if I watch his videos and he can answer your question. I was talking to someone today about my question to you and we agreed that you will give the same response, and not responding to the question. With the above being said, so how did he nailed it? Most likely you will not respond to the question.

[@biltontruth]

@@sundownsam3369 interesting you didn't answer my question. Did you watch this video? Either way im happy to summarize the highlights for you. Blessings

[@musicinspire1745]

For them to say that the lack of seeking to obey the Law of Moses is a matter of disobedience to the Lord, that IS a salvation issue, for it is written: Colossians 3:6 "For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:" There are many other verses that deal with disobedience, all of which force the Hebrew Roots teachings in the arena of their being self-defeating.

[@joshuamelton9148]

Very Informative video.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Glad it was helpful! ~Rob

[@l1Experiment]

Thank you Brother Solberg, I've been dealing with a lot in really trying to understand if the Torah is something we are suppose to keep. With sanctification from the Ruach Ha Qodesh, It seems that Torah is compelling to keep, but I think the best way is to say it is like this, I get not to sin... more and more im beginning to really think that faith alone means more than people give credit for, so I say thank you for sharing this video brother...

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thank you, George. Bless you! ~Rob

[@alberttrigg6200]

Hello Rob, thanks for your work, it has given me much to think about. Have you checked out the TruthUnedited account on KZbin? I would be interested in your thoughts on his message

[@alberttrigg6200]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/npbSoaxrdp2Um9E here is a link to one of the latest videos

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thanks, Albert. I've not heard of that YT channel. I'll check it out. ~Rob

[@salpezzino8650]

Truth United is a Ghetto version of 119

[@alberttrigg6200]

@@salpezzino8650 The presenter, (whoever he is) claims he is not Hebrew Roots, although his content seems to contradict this. A "black Israelite" theme as well

[@salpezzino8650]

Albert, He is terrible, his name Tom Steele. They all claim not to be in the HRM. It is truly a LowIQ Cult

[@justindarnellfpv]

13:06 they distort Scripture by viewing the work and teachings of Jesus through the lens of the law rather than viewing the law of Moses through the lens of Jesus. Wow, you nailed it. Was Jesus greater than Moses? Did Jesus not write the law? So we look through Jesus’ eyes not Moses’ eyes 🤯🤯🤯

[@rocksolidmn69]

Goodness gracious. Steve is doing some serious Shooking and jiving with scriptures. Once again you have done an excellent job pointing out the fine details Rob. Great video, God Bless you and your family 🙏

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thank you, David!

[@elijahirvin5911]

The law brings us to Christ yes once the law bring us to Christ we don't need the law to bring us to him again. The problem Paul had with the circumcision people were they were always trying to be justified by the law without Christ. 1 Timothy 1:8 Paul says you must use the law rightfully,

[@Judgenotself]

Thank you so much for this teaching. It is for almost a year now that I meet a lot of tora keeping christians. I am flabbergasted how the scriptures are bend to the justification of their beliefs. I saw in the spirit a coiling movement untill I heard a man reading Job about a coiling snake which is called the leviathan. To me that makes sense why scripture is interpreted coiled to their doctrine. That's why Paul asked, who has bewitched you Galatians? To me this book is an atomic bomb on this issue. I hope many will see the truth and that God will save them out of this delusion.

[@jeanmichelbelend8360]

Can you explain what that verse means M. Solbergs James 2 : 26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also., you don't explain the right way to explain the meaning of the word torah, please explain H8451. torah you should know that mean instruction not just law and can you explain that verse also Acts 13: 42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath. that verse is from the King James

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Hello, Jean Michel. I'm not sure I need to explain those things because you did a great job already! You quoted James 2:26 and Acts 13:42, and explained that the word "Torah" means instruction. What more would you like me to add? Rob

[@yosefyahu4778]

Buddy! If you believe and trust an authority, you will heed and obey that authorities instruction, will you not? Walking in faith IS and will always be walking in obedience! Did you not just contradict yourself Mr. Solberg?

[@mrp3418]

Yeah, this was important stuff bro, this guy must be confused about what Jesus actually did on the cross. He really skipped a lot of verses to avoid the context and true meaning of the text.

[@musicinspire1745]

These people are clearly drawing away other professing believers into placing themselves back under the curse of the Law. The Law of Christ, according to scripture, is this: Galatians 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

[@johnharder698]

These teachings that Mr Solberg, happen when people don’t compare Scripture with Scripture.

[@abbysharp9059]

when you read what Steve is saying this is what it sounds like: Basically, it is erasing Jesus/Yeshua.

[@fredgillespie5855]

"Steve" certainly appears to not know what he is talking about but you don't seem to be much better. You are typical of someone who has spent too much time in academia, you take something that is really straight forward and turn it into a convoluted exposition that is probably wrong. Still I will reserve my judgement till I watch your following video.

[@davidmorris7476]

Excellent again Rob. I find it interesting that the first of Paul’s 13 letters he wrote in the NT was Galatians. Faith is the foundation of our walk with Jesus.

[@simplydanny]

As a former HR, which honestly I didn’t spend a ton of time in it because I went into more sophisticated forms of of Toraism, Messianic Judaism and Rabbinical Judaism, eventually he will have to two possible conclusions once he’s pressed on those other verses, especially if pressed on Galatians 4, Paul is a heretic and should be ignored, which some more radical forms of HR take, or the position that First Fruits of Zion had to take, which is that the law is not for gentiles or are optional for gentiles. This “Law for all” position is so unsustainable, wether you study the Ancient Near East, History before and after Christ, or any form of Judaism prevalent at the time of Christ. There is only one group that maintain this position. I remember pressing a family member who still remains in this movement, and after much discussion, almost by accident they admitted that they believed what the circumcision party believed. They try to explain this away because obviously the Circumcision Party are the enemy of the faith, but even Steve admits it here, that faith in Jesus(Yeshua) is a stepping stone to keeping the Mosaic Law, and without making that leap you’re not really in the faith. They might add a theological buffer, but the conclusion is the same.

[@digimike8]

@Danny Guzman can you share more on how you left HR?

[@simplydanny]

@@digimike8 sure what would you like to know, for me it was easy leave HR and move on to MJ or RJ, because after reading the Torah you soon find out that additional details are required to keep it properly but also mediate between your fellow brother in Toraism. Debates arise and competing calendars and interpretations. Going to MJ or RJ there were more traditions held on how to do things, going back a long time. If you like I can elaborate why I left MJ and RJ.

[@simplydanny]

@@digimike8 If you follow the Torah you cannot have the same freedom that you have in traditional Christianity, so the methodology we use for traditional Christianity is not compatible with a law keeping system.

[@digimike8]

So your RJ now? We're you raised traditional Christian? Do you have a Jewish bloodline? Do you accept Jesus as Messiah?

[@simplydanny]

@@digimike8 oh lol I’m not RJ or MJ, just meant that those options seem more viable and reasonable than being a HR, I’m Christian. I’m just Apostolic Christian, going through that and learning history and reading scholarship on the topic really opened my eyes to things I didn’t consider and lead me back to Christianity. I never left my faith in Jesus and really felt that was my grounding throughout that journey.

[@stevehamburg903]

Mr. Solberg, you asked if anyone could help correct something you might have got wrong. Allow me to attempt this please. You said around 9 minutes in that Steve (Moutria by the way so now you know), said "Faith was by walking in the Torah." Please allow me to explain. Steve, like statistically every single living person in the Torah movement, "walks through faith" KNOWING, HAVING FAITH, THAT WE ARE SAVED, ONLY THROUGH THE SACRIFICE OF THE SAVIOR. THE CROSS. THE BLOOD OF JESUS if you prefer. I'm not yelling, I wanted to strongly emphasis that point. The law does Not save us. We walk Because we are saved. See the difference? I hope that helps.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thank you, Steve! I appreciate that. And I understand that Mr. Moutria said that salvation does not come from the law. In fact, I included a clip of him saying that in this video. And further, I agree that the fruit of authentic faith is obedience, so the idea of faith and obedience are closely linked. But, as I'm sure you're aware, Mr. Moutria teaches that keeping the Law of Moses is how we keep our salvation. Which means that if we _don't_ keep the Shabbat, eat kosher, keep the feasts, etc. we can lose our salvation. Which makes those rituals matters of salvation, not merely obedience. Is that a teaching that you are comfortable with? R.

[@musicinspire1745]

Where it's true that Abraham did not live by the Law of Moses, he still lived by God's Law: Genesis 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Amen!

[@yosefyahu4778]

Psalms 19:7-11 (WEBM) The LORD’s law is perfect, restoring the soul. The LORD’s testimony is sure, making wise the simple. The LORD’s precepts are right, rejoicing the heart. The LORD’s commandment is pure, enlightening the eyes. The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring forever. The LORD’s ordinances are true, and righteous altogether. More to be desired are they than gold, yes, than much fine gold; sweeter also than honey and the extract of the honeycomb. Moreover by them is your servant warned. In keeping them there is great reward. Psalms 119:89-90 (WEBM) LORD, your word is settled in heaven forever. Your faithfulness is to all generations. You have established the earth, and it remains.

[@jesusrevival-ministriessan3016]

So, Steve says the Law was given to lead us to Christ, and then concludes that Christ came to lead us back under the Law? That is utter confusion! He doesn't seem to understand that Christ came to bring us NOT back to the OLD covenant, but rather into the NEW covenant. Does he even understand there is a NEW covenant??? Steve seems to fit one of those whom Paul wrote to Timothy about? "having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm." (1 Tim. 1:6-7) I'm amazed at Gentiles are so obsessed with being Jews, especially when the Mosaic covenant was a covenant strictly between God and the nation of ISRAEL, and NOT with Gentile nations!

[@sealedsecure3754]

Unidentified translation is crazy

[@carmensiekierke3579]

Rob.....Ask the HRM/TO Movement if they think faith and obedience are the same thing. That's what is behind this heresy. The Federal Vision teaches the same heresy.

[@truthwatch2858]

Amen

[@RandomTChance]

It's not something many miss, it's something many twist. 16:55

[@mosreloaded]

I have experienced this all the time from Hebrew roots people. They say the law don't save you, but if you don't show obedience to the torah you will go to hell? lol So i stopped talking with them cause if they don't see the wrong in that they definitely under spiritual blindness. These days i just send Professor Solberg's videos. They don't like it but that's cause its contradicting their believes. Keep it up Professor God is using you greatly in this Hebrew roots matter.

[@savvycavvy7859]

Good morning! Scotty here, thanking you for being honest with the Scriptures! This expose of what “Steve“ has openly stated is more than disturbing!! This should stir up righteous anger in every Bible believing Christian! The major point came at around 22 minutes and 30 seconds in your video, where Steve equated not following Torah to sin! Thank you for exposing this heresy! It’s absurd for him to even try to preface everything by saying that salvation is not obtained through obedience to Torah, and then turn around in the same video and say that not obeying Torah is equal to sin! I was recently questioned by a local Torah observant believer about keeping the Sabbath. I told this person that during the week I did have my Sabbath rest in Jesus. This person replied to me that if I didn’t do it on Saturday that it was not a Sabbath! This is dangerous! This type of teaching literally entraps weaker members of the faith. Thank you Rob, for your teaching on Galatians chapter 3. As we know, Paul begins that chapter by calling the Galatians foolish! And basically he said that this teaching, put them under a spell! Because he asked them “who has bewitched you?”. The apostle Paul was obviously very angry about this false teaching, and we should be angry also! Thank you for your expose on Galatians three, and I am looking forward to more!

[@johanneangers2]

1 john 3:4 actually states that what Steve said about sins is true. So how can we be so hard on Steve when its actually written in the NT. Also what Steve said about Salvation is also true, Because Steve Moutria also shows that Salvation is only through Jesus. So why the backlash of keeping Torah? Obviously we know no people living in Sins such as Adultery, fornication, etc... will inherit the kingdom, meaning they will not be saved. The Torah according to 1 John 3:4 teaches us what sin is, so when you learn what sinning is, why continue in sin if you now know how not to follow sin. There is a big difference between Salvation and Living a life knowingly in Sin. And those that understand the Torah then the key is 1 John 1:9

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

@@johanneangers2 Hi Johanne! 1 John 3:4 Says, "Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness." It is not talking about the Law of Moses, but general lawlessness and disobedience. If sin was solely defined as breaking the Law of Moses, then Adam and Eve never sinned. Not only because the Law hadn’t been given yet, but also because they didn’t break any Mosaic commands. For those under the Law of Moses was it a sin to break that law? Of course! But sin isn’t limited to breaking the Law of Moses, which was a specific set of commands given at a specific time to a particular group of people. Disobeying God was sinful long before the Law of Moses was given. Blessings, Rob

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thanks, SC!

[@scottventrello8669]

Sin is defined as missing the mark. The mark would be the Law of God, which the Torah is a part of. How much of it is up for debate. Many agree on the 10 commandments. Transgression is defined in theology as knowingly breaking God's command. For me, I definitely believe sabbath to be a blessing for one to rest, but what day I do not have 100% conviction. I recognize the spiritual significance of Saturday with creation and the Torah, but also Sunday with the Resurrection. (Why not both or every day as a day devoted to God!) Some have spiritual convictions that it is a certain day. Sadly, human nature desires to be right, which is why many claim to have it all figured out atleast on specific topics. Sin could be described as going against Torah when one looks throughout scripture. What part of Torah is now the Law of Christ as Paul states is up for conversation. However, we are no longer under the condemnation of our sins thanks be to Jesus's sacrifice! A unified bride of Christ is promised in the future and one day we will all (believers) be wrong made right! Praise be to God it is not of our own understanding that we are saved but out of faith in Jesus. Blessings and may God guide your path through the Holy Spirit.

[@johanneangers2]

@@TheBiblicalRoots What is general LAWLESSNESS?

[@gene4231]

It's obvious Steves tutor is a curse.

[@mrb.woodyharrelson4393]

The Hebrew roots view is this: saved by faith in Jesus is first. Then we learn to walk in Gods laws so we no longer sin. We expect if someone is of the faith that they will show evidence by works as James speaks of. Were looking for proof of your faith not just words.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

I agree, Mr. B. that salvation comes by faith in Jesus, and that a genuine faith produces in a desire to be obedient to God. Amen! But under the New Covenant, obedience to God does not include the keeping of the Law of Moses. Especially for Gentile believers who were never under that law in the first place. Blessings, Rob

[@mrb.woodyharrelson4393]

@@TheBiblicalRoots I understand, Would you agree that we were once gentiles but once we are saved we are grafted into Israel?

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

@@mrb.woodyharrelson4393 No. We are _still_ Gentiles, even after being grafted into God's family. The body of Christ is comprised of both Jews and Gentiles. This is how we see "a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb" in Revelation 7. It's not just Israel around God's throne., it's all nations. And in 1 Cor 7:17-24, Paul says that Jews who were called to faith in God should remain Jews, and Gentiles should remain Gentiles. Blessings, Rob

[@mrb.woodyharrelson4393]

@@TheBiblicalRoots Hmmm, that's a pretty good answer, how would you then reconcile your answer with Ephesians chapter 2, especially 2:11-18? (In regards to a believer staying a gentile and not becoming apart of Israel)

[@simonskinner1450]

The Torah was given to Abraham, so obeying the law of Abraham is also the law of faith, not keeping the law of Moses. Faith is keeping the law of Abraham.

[@savvycavvy7859]

Hebrews chapter 10 teaches that the law of Moses was just a shadow of things to come. Here is an analogy. In my region, not long ago we experienced a phenomenon known as a total eclipse of the sun. During the time of the shadow of the eclipse, we were in darkness. Even the birds stopped singing! Then as the sun reappeared, the shadow disappeared! I think that’s the point! Mosaic law was the shadow according to Hebrews 10. And then as our Messiah, the son of God appeared, the entire purpose of mosaic law was then fulfilled! We are not walking in the darkness anymore, because we are now walking in the light! That dark shadow, has disappeared because the light of the world is Jesus! The shadow, has disappeared and we are now children of light! Praise God!

[@jnastally196]

1) The law has not happened in totality. The "latter rains" (the fall feasts) haven't happened, Jesus hasn't come again, He hasn't set up His Messianic reign. To continue, there isn't peace on Earth, we haven't beaten our swords into plows, all of Creation is still in a fallen state, there is not a new Heaven and New Earth, and on and on. So you can see that there is still a lot more prophesy to be fulfilled from the Torah, Prophets, and Psalms. Furthermore, 2) the Scripture you quoted says that they are things *to come*. At the time of the writing they hadn't happened yet, and please note that the writing of that statement in the NT was post Christ's assent and they are still saying "things to come", meaning there is still expectation. Finally, 3) the word "just" does not appear in the text. In this case, words like merely, only, or just are used to diminish the importance and impact of the shadow. But here's what we know about shadows: it means something is coming just like your analogy. The sun is coming after the eclipse. Soon, we will see Him as He is, face to face. *The Law* will go forth from Zion, as Scripture says, and He will set us all straight! (Me included!) 😀 As you likely know, Hebrews 10 is writing about what happens when there is no priesthood, Temple, or Tabernacle. There have been times in history when there was no Temple. In fact, many of the prophets wrote during those periods. The prophet Daniel, for example, wrote during a period without a dedicated Temple, but he still followed God's commands in exile. I don't think anyone other than His Word is our authority right now. He'll fix it all soon. Every blessing on this Sabbath morning.

[@biltontruth]

When Steve said the curse of the Law being done away with i found that funny. All of a sudden the twisting of Matthew 5, "not a dot or tittle" meaning we are all under Torah for our lives on earth, just disappeared. Interesting how he's willing for the Curses of the Torah to be dealt with and even there favourite line "done away with" but not the commands that give spiritual pride.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Great point! I didn't catch how Steve's claim impacts Matt 5. Thanks! Rob

[@johanneangers2]

Well isn't the blessings & Curses of Deuteronomy 27 & 28. An outcome for either keeping or not keeping the law? How can you relate that logic to Matthew 5?

[@johanneangers2]

Isn't death or life an outcome?

[@biltontruth]

@@johanneangers2 the consequences of the Law are still apart of the Law. The same covenant just without the curses. Is that really the Gospel? That seems to be what Torahism teaches.

[@johanneangers2]

@@biltontruth I don't think you fully understand, obviously the curses are still in effect with the human mortal body. It's at the ressurection if your in the kingdom with the new immortal body will be when the curses are removed. Jesus nail to the cross the curses and defeated death as the Firstfruits of the ressurection and only if you are saved at the day of Salvation will you be in. Otherwise if you ressurect after the millennial reign for the 2nd death you are not part of Salvation. Then the curses still applies. It's clear those that turn their life around and discipline themselves with the Creator's ways and stop sinning and have the testimony of Jesus are promised everlasting life.

[@tactup23]

It’s simple. If you desire Torah, by all means you should follow it. Obedience to Torah is not a commandment for those who don’t want it. For the most part those who showed up at Sinai were there by choice.

[@shalombethejourney]

Lots of Paul talk. If you are a torahist just drop Paul. He never knew yeshua. Why does Paul have 20 books in the NT when he never knew yeshua? Matthew has one, it's almost like Paul is trying to change the mind of the disciples or just drown them out.

[@randylundgren8421]

Abraham believed God and it was counted to him as righteousness. After Israel was saved as both of you agree, God gave them instructions which if they had followed would have resulted in great blessings. And we would likely be reading something like this. Israel believed God and it was counted to them as righteousnes. Too bad they didn't believe him.

[@sergloera]

Fundamentally misunderstanding what the phrase under the law means in the context Paul was writing. Torah does not necessarily only mean the Mosaic law. Sin is disobedience of Torah, Torah simply means instruction, as in God’s instructions. He gave Adam a very simple instruction, he disobeyed, as in he disobeyed Torah, again instruction, therefore sin. Granted too many cage stage Hebrew Roots folks get unhelpfully fixated on specifically the Mosaic law, but that is not a legitimate argument against viewing the whole of scripture as valid and applicable.

[@jimharmon2300]

The laws did exist before Moses . Noah knew clean from unclean animals.

[@nickmansfield1]

4:44 "...using a non-standard English translation..." Well, gee, now how many translations are there? Some people say KJVO, others, something else, and they're often different. Even Luke often paraphrased his Gospel. Jews frequently ridicule NT passages which cite the original Bible verses and are different to the Masoretic tradition. The start of your video was better.

[@BibliayFe]

These people are so blind. Keep the good work brother 🙏

[@luiscajigas5567]

If the instruction that God gave, is permissible and not required like what Rob is stating, then why is God going to punish all the nation for not observing the feast of tabernacle? If you think this is for the end time judgment only then you would be mistaken. Because why would God punish a nation if they did not know they should be observing it in the first place, is it because the torah is for everyone,

[@BibliayFe]

@@luiscajigas5567 the torah is only for Israel not everyone. Did Nineveh keep the sinai law?

[@luiscajigas5567]

​@@BibliayFe Nineveh were never God's people in the first place, and they did not receive the Law of God on Mount Sinai. Second, why did God ask Nineveh to repent, and did they repent? Only God's people are to observe the Law. Are you grafted into the branch and now part of the commonwealth and one with Israel, God's people? Third, why don't you answer my original question: will the punishment for not observing Sukkot fall upon you? You cannot claim ignorance since we are talking about the subject.

[@BibliayFe]

@@luiscajigas5567 show me where it says they were Israelites

[@luiscajigas5567]

@@BibliayFe you are just like all Christians when questioned they resort to bring another topic into the conversation, answer the question first, then will answer your niave question.

[@henryhodgens4312]

Rob, While we are Hebrew Roots and come to similar Torah pursuance conclusions about Galatians, we do so from a different perspective than Steve. As our moniker describes, we believe the NT was originally written in Hebrew / Aramaic so we attempt to look through the Greek translation to the underlying substrate, especially quotes from the OT…and there are many more of these than those footnoted in your Bible. Your discussion about Bible versions is well taken. Note that your ESV is guilty of an omission in chapter three of Galatians. Compare the KJV with the ESV: 1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, THAT YE SHOULD NOT OBEY THE TRUTH, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? (Gal 3:1 KJV) 1 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. (Gal 3:1 ESV) Now, you may not agree as to how we interpret that phrase … coming up … but I think you SHOULD agree that a translation must not omit a whole phrase, even if it seems redundant. This has the potential to change the whole tenor of the passage. How can you obey a fact? You can’t! You can believe a fact…Messiah Yeshua’s atonement for sin by His death, burial, and resurrection…but you can’t obey a fact. So, what is THE TRUTH that we should OBEY IT? 142 Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and THY LAW IS THE TRUTH. (Ps 119:142) So, in chapter three of Galatians, we diverge from normative Christianity with the very first verse. [Actually, we diverge from the very first chapter of Galatians but that’s a much longer discussion.] It will be interesting to see how you understand chapter three of Galatians in your subsequent video. Shalom

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thanks, Henry! It's worth noting that only a minority of English translations include the phrase "that you should not obey the truth" in Galatians 3:1. It's not a matter of the other translations "omitting a phrase," but rather that the MSS they use do not include that phrase. Which is a big reason why, as much as I enjoy the beautiful flow of the KJV, it's not a primary interpretation for theological study for me. (Although I do consult it.) There have been so many older MSS discovered since 1611 that are not reflected in the KJV. Let me know what you think of my Bible study on Gal 3: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqisY4mmdt58hK8 Blessings, Rob

[@henryhodgens4312]

@@TheBiblicalRoots Rob, Yes, I see your point. But which MSS are the more legitimate? It seems those that omit the phrase are based on the Hort Westcott Critical Text and a few other minor MSS? The fact that Paul uses a very similar phrase in Romans 2:8 with the same or very similar tenor to our understanding of Galatians 3:1 in just about EVERY VERSION seems to give more legitimacy to the KJV over the ESV? 8 But unto them that are contentious, and DO NOT OBEY THE TRUTH, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, (Rom 2:8) Perhaps so many versions following the HWCT is just an indicator of confirmation bias due to Christian tradition??? Looking forward to reviewing your new video. Shalom

[@patriciastordahl1220]

You're way too gracious regarding the warning to all who preach any other Gospel other than what Paul preached. My translation says Let them be accursed. So strong it says it twice. To retract any red flags gives Steve wiggle room.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

I hear what you’re saying, Patricia. I am also mindful of passages like this: “But in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect, having a good conscience, so that, when you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ may be put to shame.” ‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭3‬:‭15‬-‭16‬ Blessings, Rob

[@RUT812]

Amen

[@wakeywakey8603]

If only Hebrew Roots people would read The Book of Hebrews in the New Testament & BELIEVE. But they don't even believe Jesus is the correct name of the Messiah. So that means they don't believe that the Most High God has authority over the authorized English translation of the Bible. When English is the world's dominant language. Do they believe Satan has dominion even after Jesus' finished work on the cross? He fulfilled Genesis 3:15. He crushed the Serpent Seed's head (dominion) by sowing The Good Seed into Israel on Calvary. That's crucial to understanding why Jesus is King of kings & Lord of lords. Praise His Holy Name (DNA) which is above all names. Everybody knows your true identity is verified in by your DNA.

[@vanankumar5733]

What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all. For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin, 10 as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; 11 no one understands; no one seeks for God. 12 All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.” Romans 3:9-12 @Stevie can prove to me anyone.. one person that obey the Torah perfectly, without failing? or sin?

[@t-time1]

Rob, you paraphrase Scripture when explaining topics too. Not great.

[@randylundgren8421]

The problem with defining Torah as law is that it leaves out the rest of Torah (the first five books). Instructions would be more correct. Thus Adam and Eve did sin. To do Gods will is righteousness to do your own will instead of his is sin. Sin brings death. Bulls and goats died in our place. Then Jesus came and made the ultimate blood sacrifice. He wiped our sins away, cleared our debt, gave us amnesty. Now we have a new beginning, a fresh start. To do our will? No! To do his will. Doing his will brought blessings. Doing our will brought the curse and the necessity of animal sacrifices. If we have faith we do his will and get his blessings. Jesus said to live by every word that came out of the mouth of God. Johns baptism was unto repentance. What did he expect us to repent to. God! How do we do that? We do his will. What is his will? To keep Torah and get blessings. Jesus also said if you want these things to seek ye the kingdom of God and his righteousness. Do we love God? Do we believe God? Do we trust God? Let's keep his Torah and reap the blessings. Amen

[@scotthays9133]

Steve’s last name is Moutria.

[@cgreene4492]

Boy Mr. Solberg, it’s amazing like the Scriptures you pick and chose bits and pieces from Steve’s videos to try and and make a false point. Yes, you will find out soon how wrong you are.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thanks for watching, Cathy. I spent quite a bit of time studying Steve's teaching and tried to respond with care. But I'm far from perfect! So if you could kindly point out a false claim I made, I would be happy to correct the record on it. Blessings, Rob

[@gideonopyotuadebo2304]

ERROR PREACHERS CALLING RIGHTEOUS WORSHIPPERS OF GOD ERROR IS PAUL GREATER THAN GOD YEHOVAH THAT HIS CONTRADICTIONS AGAINST THE LAW OF GOD YEHOVAH THE MOST HIGH IS TAKEN AS HIGHER THAN THE WORDS OF GOD YEHOVAH BY REBELLIOUS ANTILAW GOSPEL CHRISTIANS THAT HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO OBEY GOD

[@sundownsam3369]

The Torah Family's most recent video, "A Response to Mr. Solberg on The Tutor," though he did his own studies, summarized everything a few of us have been telling you, and it clearly states that the Spirit of God is the one that is teaching us according to what God made clear when he first spoke. With this being said, it is clear and sad to say that the Spirit of God is not the one teaching you. When you get to the book of Galatians, understand what the problem among the believers was in Galatia. 1) They were being taught that one receives the Holy Spirit through works of the law, 2) that righteousness comes through the works of the law, and 3) that justification comes through the works of the law. That is what was being taught, and the Apostle Paul was correcting that without dismissing God's law. You need to humble yourself and let the Spirit of God teach you instead of allowing your theology to get in the way, and I am not being malicious when I state this. Rob Solberg, you are eating grass; I hope that, like Nebuchadnezzar, you come to your senses.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Did you watch that video from Torah Family, Sam? Oh my goodness, it was...let's say troublesome. Not only because of the false things Steve said about me, and not only because of the way he mischaracterized my positions, but also because the theology he teaches is very dangerous. He said, "Walking in obedience to the Torah keeps you in your salvation." What?! So it's up to us to keep our salvation by keeping the law of Moses? In other words, Saturday Sabbath, kosher food, the Torah feasts, and circumcision are matters of salvation? That's dangerous stuff, my friend. I suggest you find a better teacher to listen to. Shalom, Rob

[@sundownsam3369]

@@TheBiblicalRoots What is important to know is that the Apostle Paul is speaking to believers in the faith, and if so, why is he telling them that faith without works is dead and that faith apart from works is useless? Because, just as the body is dead without the spirit, so is faith without works. James is sharing a scriptural truth on this when he asks the question, "Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son upon the alter?" Then he follows with, "Seest thou how faith wrought works, and by works was faith made perfect?" He continues, "You see then how a man is justified not only by faith but also by works." So, faith in Yeshua is all we need for salvation, but faith should produce works, and if it doesn't, it is dead. It is like saying they are bench warmers; they are on the team but not playing. So, obedience to God's laws is what faith produces, which has nothing to do with salvation. The problem with you is that you have been engraved with the lie that anyone who observes God's law is working for salvation and that God's laws, which you call Moses' laws, are done away with, and that is not what is being said. Tell me, if it is Moses' laws, what laws did Moses keep-his own laws or God's law? Rob Solberg, when you read what I posted, read it from the Scriptures. I made it clear that I do not follow this guy; I do not even subscribe to his channel, and more importantly, I do not lean on theologians' teachings because all they will teach is what they have been engraved with: a lie. That lie is so powerful that only God can make one see that a lie has been implanted in them, which is why you will not weigh what is said truthfully because you are ignorantly or deliberately blinding yourself from Scriptural truth. The reality is that you want nothing to do with God's laws. The question you made-in other words, that Saturday Sabbath, kosher food, the Torah feasts, and circumcision are matters of salvation-just demonstrates that you do not understand what is being said. This person made it clear in his video that he was not saying that one works for salvation, and if he did, I would refute him according to the Scriptures, which God made clear the first time he spoke. He is not mischaracterizing your positions; he is just refuting your view. Neither is he speaking theology; he is speaking according to the Scriptures. It is preferable for you to admit that you are not speaking according to the Scriptures and correct your books rather than continue to mislead God's people. Instead of going into the Scriptures with what you believe, go into the Scriptures to see what God has to talk to you about.

[@Rvillaluz123]

Ty brother Solberg! Galatians 3:21-22 KJV - Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. Galatians 2:16 KJV - Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. Galatians 3:2 KJV - This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Galatians 3:5 KJV - He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Philippians 3:9 KJV - And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

[@helenlowder3424]

John 5-45 do not think I will accuse you to the father , there is one who accuses you Moses whom you trust.acts 13-39 I am by him everyone who believes is justified from all things from which you could not be justified by the law of Moses .acts 15-10 Now they’re for why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we where able to bear. acts 15-20 But that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols From sexual immorality, from things Strangled and from blood . You will never hear them quotes these Scriptures

[@Isaiah42.21]

Hey Prof. Rob, you got a response to your video above here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnzNiGmOfNyMpMk

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Awesome! R.

[@vanankumar5733]

Steve look dumb by his own interpretation. wake up Steve, you are preaching from wrong hill.. Don't preach from Mt. Sinai (ministry of death),, Preach from Mt. Zion ( Ministry of Spirit)... Now if the ministry of death, carved in letters on stone (10 commandments), came with such glory that the Israelites could not gaze at Moses' face because of its glory, which was being brought to an end, will not the ministry of the Spirit ( Gospel) have even more glory? 2 Corinthians 3:7-8

[@sundownsam3369]

Deuteronomy 4:2, 8: Then God spoke these words to his people: "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, nor shall ye diminish (subtract, remove) from it, that ye may keep the commandments of Jehova your God which I command you. What nation is there so great that it has statutes and judgments "so righteous" as all this law which I set before you this day? When Yeshua said that he came not to destroy the Torah (God's instructions), he did not alter, nor loosen or break God's law, so to state that God's laws are not required but permissible, is not only a diabolical statement being made, but satan is speaking himself, causing many to bear false witness against the Son of God, Yeshua. You (Rob Solberg) are bearing false witness against Yeshua, the Son of God. Rob Solberg, I am not posting to be liked, and I will no longer respond to any of your followers who are engraved with the lie that God's laws are done away with. The barren fig tree could be used as a symbolic representation of a false prophet, and everyone knows what Yeshua did to that fig tree; he cursed it and the fig tree withered away. If you continue to aggressively attack or go against God's laws, your day will come, and you will wither away. You are eating grass, and my hope is that you come to your senses as did King Nebuchadrezzar. You have taken the story of the prodigal son and applied it to Yeshua as one who rebelled against his Father, a Yeshua that is filling his belly with the husks that the swine eat until he comes to his senses. The Yeshua that I serve is seated at the right hand of the Father.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Hi Sam! To whom did God speak those words you quoted in Deut 4? R.

[@sundownsam3369]

@@TheBiblicalRoots Israel! Now answer me this question, to whom is Isaiah 53 speaking to and who is it referring to in verse 8, Israel or the Gentiles? When you answer this you need to step away from Christianity. You don't realize that you have started a cult called torahism, a cult that wants nothing to do with the God of Israel, a cult that wants nothing to do with God's laws, a cult that teaches that Yeshua rebelled against his Father. You stated that you are on a divine assignment, your divine assignment is an assignment from satan himself, an assignment to take people to where satan is leading you and you do not realize this. You are teaching a doctrine of demons.

[@sundownsam3369]

​@@TheBiblicalRootsAmazing, I answer your questions, but you avoid answering mine. Tell me, who was God talking to in Isaiah 53?

[@sundownsam3369]

Amazing, I answered you question but you avoid answering mine. Tell me, who was God talking to in Isaiah 53 and tell according to Jeremiah 31:31-34, what was God putting in the minds and hearts, and if it is the law, when did he put it and is it in your mind and heart? Most likely, you will not respond, but if you do you will not respond accordingly.

[@anthonycarbonaro7890]

Dangerous Teaching!!!

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

I know, right? Hopefully, Mr. Moutria reconsiders his position. RLS

[@wakeywakey8603]

👑👑 Galatians 3:11 👑👑 *King James Version* But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. *New American Standard Bible* Now, that no one is justified by the Law before God is evident; for, “THE RIGHTEOUS ONE WILL LIVE BY FAITH.”

[@tbishop4961]

I have one issue with what you've said (ignoring my dislike for Paul's teaching) Both you and Steve have said the law is not about salvation. This is incorrect. It is very much about salvation, just not spiritual salvation. After being asked by the rich young man what he must do to attain eternal life, Jesus talks about the law and says "do this and you will LIVE". He doesn't say "forever", but just that you will live. This is a cliff's notes of leviticus 26

[@sbeasley7585]

And then Jesus said "follow me." If Jesus was teaching Moses and had just affirmed that the young man was as well... Why did he say, follow me? I suggest this indicated that Jesus was teaching something much greater than Moses ever did.

[@billyhw5492]

@@sbeasley7585 Well said, amen.

[@tbishop4961]

@@sbeasley7585 Moses taught details of what to do. Jesus taught the why

[@sbeasley7585]

@@tbishop4961 Please provide Scripture references and what you mean by "the why".

[@tbishop4961]

@@sbeasley7585 I gave you 2 already. How many do you need? Matthew 5 and Luke 6 are both good chapters

[@jimmytphillips8828]

Sir, you look up all these different Manmade Translations, that left us to Manmade, 41,000 Different Denominations under a Banner called Christianity, who unfortunately now also follow Man-made, Pagan Holidays and Sunday Worship instead of Yah's Sabbath, Commandments and Feast Days and you want Us to believe you know better Brother??? I suggest you look at Lion and Lamb Ministries, 119 Ministries, Jacob's Tent ect, on KZbin for a better understanding. You have been indoctrinated into a left wing translation of Scripture. 1st John 2:3,4. John 14:15.. Revelation 12:17 and 14:12 friends. Do you not realize Yeshua/ Jesus Is The Torah??? If you don't realize that, your already lost. That's why Jesus says if you love me follow my Commandments. Sorry Friend, you are the one mislead here. May your Eyes be Opened Soon. Love, Prayers, Blessings and Shalom 🙏🙏🙏

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Hi Jimmy! Is it your belief that 119 Ministries and the rest *don't* use "Manmade Translations" of the Bible?

[@jimmytphillips8828]

@@TheBiblicalRoots No, Im suggesting folks look over several. Maybe take a look at The Cepher or Hebrew Mathew for examples. Even The 1611 King James has problems. See Acts 12:4 I believe. Used the Word Easter instead of Passover. If you don't look through a Hebraic Mindset, your going to run into problems. I also feel that Seminary School has turned into Cemetery Schools, just like a lot of our Liberal Colleges. Some of Shauls teachings are, infact, hard to be understood and misunderstood by many Mainstream Christian Pastors ect. Have a Blessed Everything Sir. Blessings, Prayers and Shalom 🙏🙏🙏

[@jesusrevival-ministriessan3016]

@@jimmytphillips8828 Jimmy, don't you hear the Law? The Law required 100% obedience or else you are CURSED. No one can keep the Law 100% and there is no more temple or animal sacrifices which the Law requires to receive forgiveness of sins, so you are defeated before you even try to start keeping it, for Paul warns, "For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in ALL things which are written in the book of the law to do them." (Gal. 3:10)

[@jimmytphillips8828]

@@jesusrevival-ministriessan3016 Sir, you must have missed the Message? I don't follow Yah's Sabbath, Commandments and Feast Days to Get Saved? I do it because I am Saved!!! And believe it or not, it's not Burdensome. Does that ring a bell??? You follow some of the Commandments don't you? You don't Murder, you honor Mom and Dad, you don't lie, cheat or steal do you??? Your problem is probably just a little lazy to Remember His 4th Commandment and don't have time for His Feast Days... Just a little more than your willing to give... Jesus said if you love me follow my Commandments??? So I do... I don't have a problem with it?, Why should you??? I get the Blessings of Deuteronomy 28:1-14. I'm under Psalm 91. I'm mentioned in Revelation 12:17 and 14:12 in the Bible... You might be found in Mathew 7:21-23... Workers of Lawlessness... I hope not? I share the Truth to a Beautiful, Blessed and Prosperous way to live. You teach it's done away with? Prayers, Blessings, love and Shalom 🙏🙏🙏 Think about it..

[@jimmytphillips8828]

@@TheBiblicalRoots I'm not talking about Biblical Translations. I'm talking about Manmade Doctrines. Replacement Theology. Manmade Pagan Holidays are Not Yah's Feast Days and are Not Part of such additions at all. You can't put God's Name on Sin to make it anymore sinless. That's all I'm saying. We need to grow up and Get Out of this False Doctrine... All of it! Blessings and Shalom Y'all 🙏

[@wakeywakey8603]

Omgosh I can't take Steve's voice. Sounds like the Spirit of confusion. Which I find abrasive.

[@dinaaperazzo5699]

It's real simple. Jesus is God, Moses took his orders from God. Follow Jesus and everything will be okay.😇

[@mbrown6837]

Solberg: Glad you are attempting to "rightly divide" Galatians 3, which you cannot do ignoring the earliest copy we have of Galatians 3. Don't forget, the prophet Malachi had this warning for ALL, BEFORE the Great and Dreadful Day of YHWH, which included those in the 1st century until TODAY, since this Great Dredful Day, prophesied time has not yet come: Malachi 4:4 “Remember the law of my servant Moses, the statutes and rules that I commanded him at Horeb for all Israel". The earliest copy of Galatians 3 from about 145-150 A.D. you will find below. Please notice that the verses which you anti-nomians "rub your hands together and salivate over", when trying to support your aversion toward God's laws, did not even exist in the earliest copies of Galatians. One thing we can know for sure, if Marcion had copies with those verses in it, he definitely would not have left them out. Those would have perfectly fit his theology. The scribes from the Gentile churches would have added those verses later. So when you exegete on Galatians 3, please do so from the earliest copy of Galatians, vs the modernized one which we have today, which reads as follows, ***no schoolmaster*** is ever illuded to, and most of all, ***no terminal point of the Law/Torah*** when Messiah arrived: Galatians 3: 13 But the law is not of faith: but the one that does these things shall live in them. Christ has ransomed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: as it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree, 14 That we might receive the blessing of the Spirit through faith. 26 For all of you are children of the faith, 3:15 (yet) as a man I speak.

[@billyhw5492]

You are quoting a text not from A.D. 145 (protip: the A.D. comes before the year number) but something that was manufactured out of whole cloth in A.D. 1887.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thanks, MB! What is your source for this text? Rob

[@billyhw5492]

@@TheBiblicalRoots It appears to be the following from the Gnostic Society Library: Marcion: To the Galatians From: W. C. van Manen, "Marcions Brief van Paulus aan de Galatiers" Theologisch tijdschrift, Vol 21 (Leiden, 1887), pp. 528-533. Transcribed into English by D. J. Mahar (1998). TO THE GALATIANS Marcion's text, as reconstructed by W. C. van Manen Transcribed into English by D. J. Mahar

[@sundownsam3369]

Rob, it is true that after faith has come, one is no longer under a schoolmaster, but this statement is only true if there was no Tanakh. What am I trying to convey? Christians have been engraved with the lie that God's laws are done away with, and this lie has caused them to avoid the Tanakh when studying verses like Galatians 3:25. It is safe to state that Jeremiah 31:31-34 is exactly telling us why one will no longer be under a schoolmaster. As God said, he will write his laws in our inward parts and hearts, so there will be no need for man to teach them. Now that they are stored inwardly, the righteousness of the law will be fulfilled in us who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit (Romans 8:4). The Apostle Paul was able to say that we are no longer under a schoolmaster because he understood exactly what Jeremiah 31:31 through 34 was stating. The lies that Christians have been engraved with have caused them to not take the scriptures as a whole.

[@billyhw5492]

No Christian on Earth believes that God's laws are done away with.

[@2HungerandThirst]

Being done away with and no longer being binding in the New Covenant are two very different things. The law isn't done away with as in erased, it is however done away with as in it has been fulfilled by Jesus. The New Covenant has been established and supersedes the Mosaic. See 2 Corinthians 13:9-11

[@sbeasley7585]

The law of Moses and the law of Christ are not the same thing. One is of the flesh. The other (greater one) is of the spirit. There has been a change in priesthood therefore there must be a change in law. Hebrews The law changed when Jesus came in the scene.

[@sundownsam3369]

​@@billyhw5492 Let me correct the statement; Christians want nothing to do with God's laws! Rome, emperors like Constantine, and the Council of Nicaea contributed to this because they wanted nothing to do with the Jews and the God of Israel. They taught against God's laws, engraving into the minds of the Gentiles who became believers the lie that they did not have to observe God's laws. And now theologians are teaching the lie that has been taught throughout the centuries. Some teach this lie through ignorance and some teach this lie deliberately, and when one continues to aggressively against God's law, that person wants nothing to do with God's laws. If you study Galatians 3:25 in the context of Jeremiah 31:31 through 34, you will still not see a scriptural truth because the lie that you have been engraved with is embedded in you as with glue, not allowing you to see a scriptural truth. I heard a minister once say, many sing the song, "Open my eyes, Lord, I want to see Jesus," and you hear God responding, "If I open your eyes, you will still not see him." That is because they really want nothing to do with Yeshua. In the same manner, Christians would ask God to open their eyes to Jeremiah 31:31 through 34, and they still won't see a scriptural truth because the lie they have been engraved with causes them to want nothing to do with God's law. This lie is embedded deeply. Just like Rob said in this video, and if I recall that he is here to point out a false teacher, I am here not to point out Rob as a false teacher, but to show that it is the scriptures that point him out as a false teacher when it comes to God's laws.

[@sundownsam3369]

@@sbeasley7585 You are ignorant of scriptural truth. If there has been a change in the law then you need put away the Tanakh and just quote the Brit-Chadadash. You know nothing on the priesthood, and you are ignorant of scriptural truth. Read Roman's chapter 8 verses 1 through 10 and tell me what it is saying.

[@timw6110]

Sure Steve is as guilty as every other teacher out there just like Solberg. They have an agenda. Let’s get the truth out here. The kingdom is all about obedience. We will be in HIS sabbaths and celebrating HIS times, not our own ways, understanding or traditions. He is the ruler and creator. To know Jesus is to know the word. His word is the Torah, and the profits, and the Torah became flesh. It’s all him. The king FOREVER and ever. And we love him and his commands. This is the faith. Don’t listen to teachers! Read the scriptures! Don’t lean on you own understanding. It will lead to deception and destruction. It’s not confusing! Return! Love is keeping his commands! If you are part of HIS kingdom, he gives grace, but you will conform to HIS image on his eternal clock, not yours. To think you know better than his word is a deadly pattern since the garden. Peace!

[@billyhw5492]

Matthew 19.8.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

"For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit" (Rom 14:17).

[@timw6110]

@@billyhw5492 very good. Their are some laws that Moses put in because of stiff necked, hardened heart. They did not have the Holy Spirit which gives truth. They broke the covenant thus the levitical system and the book of the law was put into effect as a witness against them. Feast days and sabbath are in the book of the covenant and bring life, joy, righteousness, and blessing. Clean and unclean animals were known by Noah when he brought 7 pair of clean on the ark way before the the book of the law. They all should of been destroyed after the golden calf idolatry, but Yah gave grace and put a tutor on them for their disobedience until Shiloh came and put his people back into covenant. You must read the word and know what’s covenant living. Divorce is not.

[@timw6110]

@@TheBiblicalRoots Well that’s what people are always talking about in this world. food and drink. What they are eating. Food food food…We have become a bunch of foodies here in the west and our health proves it! So what Paul is saying here is about all the Nonsense with the food idolatry. Get over it!!!! God defines food in Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy 14 for us. It’s that simple.

[@timw6110]

@@billyhw5492 “Then יהושע spoke to the crowds and to His taught ones, saying, “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on the seat of Moses. Therefore, whatever they say to you to guard, guard and DO. But do not do according to their works, for they say, and DO NOT DO. “For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders, but with their finger they do not wish to move them.” ‭‭ (Matthew)‬ ‭23:1-4‬ ‭TS2009‬‬

[@luiscajigas5567]

In your last video you ask me to clear something up for you and I did but you seem to ignore my response, So again I will response to your last question about clearing up what I stated. If the instruction that God gave, is permissible and not required like what you are stating, then why is God going to punish all the nation for not observing the feast of tabernacle? If you think this is for the end time judgment only then you would be mistaken. Because why would God punish a nation if they did not know they should be observing it in the first place, is it because the torah is for everyone, Paul stated in defense against those who accuse him teaching against the torah, that he believes everything that is in accordance with the torah and that is written in the Prophets. So, is Paul a hypocrite, speaking from both side of his mouth?

[@sbeasley7585]

Paul only taught the same thing the Messiah taught and that was not the law of Moses. They both taught about the kingdom of God.

[@nicoarnold2200]

If Paul was teaching the law of Moses, at least to the gentiles, then I would expect to see the sabbath law in the 4 commands give to gentiles in Acts 15. It just isn't there.

[@luiscajigas5567]

@@nicoarnold2200 Do you even know what the new covenant is about?

[@luiscajigas5567]

@@sbeasley7585 First, where in my post did i mention anything about teaching about the law? You have an opinion about my post, but ignore the question I pose to Rob, why don't you answer the question before giving me your opinion on something I didn't mention,

[@nicoarnold2200]

@@luiscajigas5567 Yes I do.

[@cardcounter21]

5:52 _'...not allowing comments comes across like an unwillingness to engage with, or even allow, opposing viewpoints...'_ Here's an opposing viewpoint: Why did Jesus not fulfil the prophecies of the first testament (which said nothing about the Messiah being tortured to death and consequently coming twice)? In the first testament the Jews are Gods chosen people and the rest of the world is his enemy, why does the second testament completely turn the first on its head by making the rest of the world now the chosen ones and the Jews God's enemy? Why would God have been so lovey dovey with the Jews in the first testament when he knew it was them who would be responsible for the torture and murder of his forthcoming son? There's many more things that don't add up between the first and second testaments!

[@folkeholtz6351]

Solberg does a wrong distinction between faith in G-d and obedience to G-ds Torah The instructions + a distinction between the Laws to Adam and the the Torah. Jesus is the Living Torah and therefore he did not broke the written Torah. What Solberg does is to separate the Tanach and the Gospels & the Letters, so we get now two bibles and not one. The people who can see one Bible will discover that the Gospel is in the Tanach and the Torah and the Torah is in the Gospels and the letter. G-d does not say one thing first and then Change. This is said by G-d himself. I am G-d and I do not change. To be under the law means to be under the law and being not born again. But have the very same Law( Torah) in the heart means to be born again. Yes he Torah save us from sins if we obey the commandments, this gives us an outer righteousness but the born again gives an inner righteousness . We have here two kinds of righteousness. Atthe same time the Gospel is also timeless, therefore people could be G-ds children before Christ. By this we have a whole Bible, But Solberg view two Bibles which is the vire of the Lutherens Theology and those who build up everythiong on Jesus in such a way that all starts with him

[@billyhw5492]

Jesus brought us a much higher law than the law of Moses. Stop living in the prefigurment, and start living in the fulfillment. And it's perfectly okay to spell God correctly.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Hi Folke. You are so right that God does not change! But His commands can and do. God told Noah he could eat literally anything (Gen 9:1-3). But later at Sinai, God gave Israel a big list of animals they were not to eat (Lev 11). Did God change? No! He gives different commands to different people at different times. And the food laws were for Israel alone. They are no longer in effect under the New Covenant. Shalom, Rob

[@folkeholtz6351]

@@billyhw5492 No he did not, He was standing on it and practice it and so gave us an example. However to be a Jew is much much much better and deeper that to be a Christian. The Christian culture has twisted the Scripture and taken it out from the context. Much of the twisted explanation is not even marked in the Gospel and the Letter. Such as the verse 16 in Psalm 22: " they pierced my hands and my feet" then it actually is written: " Like a Lion may hand and feet" How can you play with the word of HaShem like this? How can anybody trust what you are promoting?

[@billyhw5492]

@@folkeholtz6351 Leviticus 15.20 and 25.44-46 are better than Matthew 5.44 and 1 Corinthians 13?

[@folkeholtz6351]

@@billyhw5492 Billy HW seems not to understand the Torah at all. Yes it was very good to be living in the antic Israel. But the written Torah is not enough to understand the deep truth of Judaism You need the Oral Torah also. To be a slave in the antic Israel was more to be employed in a working in the farm.

[@wakeywakey8603]

🔥🔥 James 2:10. KJV 🔥🔥 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 🔥🔥 Galatians 5:4 🔥🔥 *New International Version* You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. *New Living Translation* For if you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law, you have been cut off from Christ! You have fallen away from God’s grace. *English Standard Version* You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace. *Berean Standard Bible* You who are trying to be justified by the law have been severed from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. *Berean Literal Bible* Whoever are being justified in the Law, you are severed from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. *King James Bible* Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. *New King James Version* You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. *New American Standard Bible* You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by the Law; you have fallen from grace.

[@MrsNuttyBar1]

Galatians 5:4 is heart-stopping. It absolutely horrified me for all of Torahism. Thanks Rob! You have a wonderful gift...God Bless! 🙏