A Response to Steve Moutria of Torah Family and 119 Ministries on The Tutor

[@jaylar6442]

26:20 it's a presupposition based on the fact that it was never done away with in the first place. It was never replaced by Messiah. It was never amended by Messiah. It's based on the assumption that God, who is unchanging, still has one standard of righteousness for Israel and Gentiles. Both for the Jew and the stranger who dwells among them.

[@YESHUAISTWL]

May I request clarification? My understanding of the Messianic Jewish movement is what I believe, which that all the instructions pertaining to the absolution of sins were replaced with the death of The LAMB. Many other Commandments are not applicable for most in this day and time as they are centered on a more rural lifestyle. The others are still in effect, such as clean and unclean foods, Saturday as the Sabbath, Passover is to be celebrated ad infinitum, and the Ten Commandments are to be kept.

[@andyYoutubeEmail]

Hebrews 8:13 (CSB): By saying a new covenant, he has declared that the first is obsolete. And what is obsolete and growing old is about to pass away."

[@andyYoutubeEmail]

Read Hebrews 8:13 which states the Mosaic Covenant is "obsolete" and "about to pass". Plus read Jeremiah which states the New Covenant is "not like" the Mosaic Covenant. Plus read in Hebrews that "with a new covenant. Plus read in Hebrews 4:12 when speaking of the "different priesthood" of the new covenant that with a new priesthood comes different laws. What priesthood was the Mosaic Covenant.. a levitical priesthood... How about Christ who is now our high priest in the new covenant.. was Christ from the tribe of Levi.. no. His was a different priesthood (Melchizedek) and thus required DIFFERENT LAWS. You

[@andyYoutubeEmail]

In the book of Hebrews (and elsewhere) it specifically says that the previous covenant (ie: Mosaic) is 1) obsolete and 2) has a different priesthood and thus has different laws. There is SO much in the NT Scriptures which defend the idea the Old Covenant is over. Did you actually watch the video because he answers your questions…. Odd you made the statements he “using Scripture” already answered.

[@t-time1]

"If you had believed Moses, you would believe Me, because he wrote about Me. But since you do not believe what he wrote, how will you believe what I say?” - John 5:46-47

[@josueg88209]

Funny how no one has said anything about these verses .

[@josueg88209]

@@mager888 no its for us as well , go up a couple more verses John 5:39 [39]You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. So how is it that us as believers of Christ and God say that eternal life is only for jews because Christ is only talking to jews?. That's cherry picking brother , add verse 46-47 just to come to understand that it applies to us as well.

[@t-time1]

@@mager888 I actually can't believe I'm hearing this from a believer for the second time. So because Jesus was speaking to Jews, his words are not relevant to Non-Jews?

[@GreenandGrain]

@@t-time1 what are you referring to? I didn’t hear anything like that

[@t-time1]

@@GreenandGrain Erwin Mager said Jesus was speaking of unbelieving Judeans/Jews. I asked, if he is speaking of/to unbelieving Jews, then are his words irrelevant to us today (Non-Jews).

[@randysandford4033]

Torah does not mean to "hit the mark". It means "teaching, instruction". One translation for sin in the Hebrew means "to miss the mark".

[@titosantiago3694]

I know you won't say it for obvious reasons regarding so-called Hebrew Root "teachers" like this, but I will...the methodology he's using is a prime example of cult "gaslighting."

[@webmasterrip]

Thank You

[@jaylar6442]

24:15 Mr. Solberg, 1 John 3:4 was written AFTER Messiah's death and resurrection. So, sin IS (present tense) transgression against the Law. Not just under the "Mosaic covenant."

[@salpezzino7803]

and sin has been around since the Fall so John isnt speaking about the law of Moses. Too Funny your own logic shows your error

[@jaylar6442]

So,...what law is he talking about?

[@salpezzino7803]

@@jaylar6442 you must use the whole council of God. not just what the Jewish Roots vomit

[@jaylar6442]

51:39 - Do you notice that Galatians 3:11 is a quote? What's he quoting? Habakkuk 2:4 says, "“Behold, his soul is puffed up; it is not upright within him, but the righteous shall live by his faith." The Hebrew word for "faith" is "emuna." More accurately translated as "faithfulness," or "steadfastness." Whenever one has faith in Scripture, that faith causes them to act. Check out Hebrews 11.

[@yeshuaeselcaminoayhwh1861]

John 7:19 Moses gave you the law, but none of you obeys it! In fact, you are trying to kill me.”

[@jaylar6442]

1:05:11 - As with Hebrews 8, you conveniently left off reading in Jeremiah 31. The New Covenant is the same terms, with the same people. The difference is, it's written on our hearts.

[@OutReach4God]

It's not, the Lord said I will make a new covenant, not like I did when I held your hand out of Israel. We even see this in 2 Corinthians ch 3 as the glory of the new covenant makes the glory of the old seem as though it no longer exists.

[@jaylar6442]

Okay. Reading through the passages, what are the differences between the two covenants? Let's go through them....

[@OutReach4God]

@@jaylar6442 For starters, not the same priesthood. No requirements of clean or unclean food. Only prohibited food was meet sacrificed to idols, and with blood. No longer a requirement to seperate different cloth linens/wool to make clothes. No longer required to keep the feasts, new moons, and sabbath's. The reality of these are found in Christ. He is your rest and Jubilee. There is no gentile or jew in the new covenant. It didn't matter to God if you kept torah all your life, or a pagan gentile forgiveness came through his name. Circumcision no longer required. No one is justified for keeping Torah. Ordinances was taken away and nailed to the cross.

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

I did not come to abolish the Law but show you how to properly live it. Matt 5:17-19

[@billyhw5492]

Dear Jeff, can you please stop being a crazy person and stop posting 57 times with no worthwhile content to offer? Pls thx.

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

@@billyhw5492 R. L. is with Satan.... He claims were to NOT keep God's commandments (Torah) and if we do we;ve fallen from grace, Satan is enraged at those who keep God's Commandments...... Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

[@codyalexander3290]

@@Jeffmacaroni1542 did Paul approve of eating unclean meat in 1 Corinthians 10:31?

[@jimhelms7178]

Follow Jesus! Quit following Saul!

[@bertgoat]

wrong, he came to fulfil it.

[@purely-grace]

Shalom Brother Solberg, thank you so much for these insightful videos. May Yahweh keep using you to encourage us through the Truth of Yeshua.

[@nvdxn]

If you want to know the truth of Yeshua then I suggest you watch Torah Family because the Torah is truth and Yeshua was The Prophet who came to only teach us His Fathers truth - Yeshua testifed in John 15:10 that He kept His Fathers Commandments which include Deut 4:2 and Deut 12:32-13:5. Any prophet (or teacher) who leads people away from obeying all of Gods Law is a false teacher, and if Yeshua testified that He kept His Father's law then any teacher who teaches that Yeshua changed the Law is turning Yeshua into a false teacher. Yeshua was the Messiah who came to magnify the Torah and make it honourable. In Mark 7 He called religious people who replaced keeping Gods Law with their own traditions hypocrites, and in Matt 23:1-4 Yeshua told us to listen to the Pharisees when they are sitting in the Moses seat and observe and do what they are telling us to do. Yeshua was not telling us to obey Rabbinic Judaism with all its man-made traditions, He was telling us to obey the Torah which is what they are reading from the Moses seat. Yeshua did not come to lead us away from obeying the Torah and any minister who says otherwise has missed the point of the gospel message - shalom

[@purely-grace]

@@nvdxn are you saying that brother Solberg is wrong in what he is teaching?

[@nvdxn]

@@purely-grace is brother Solberg saying that Paul is teaching believers not to obey Gods Law because the Law of God was only added for transgression and now that Yeshua has come we are no longer under the Law of God? If that is what he is teaching, then yes I do believe he is a teacher who is leading us to the error of lawlessness. The best teaching I have seen on the Tutor is by Steve at Torah Family Shalom

[@YESHUAISTWL]

​@@purely-graceYes

[@jaylar6442]

55:18 - How can you say the Law is foundational to your faith when you only hold to parts of it? 55:50 - Keep reading! What was the fault? It was with the people, not the Law. What are the better promises? Again, keep reading. God says He will put His Torah Law in our hearts, causing us to walk in it.(Hebrews 8:10)

[@veritasmatters2662]

Even the most strict Torahists only follow parts of it-only 1/3rd of the Law at best. Over 400 of the 613 laws of the Old Covenant have to do with the Temple, the Levitical priesthood and sacrifices. God Himself did away with those laws almost 2000 years ago having destroyed the Temple and made sacrifices impossible, and has eliminated the Levitical priesthood, as no one has any certainty who the Levites are anymore. Obviously, God has brought the Law to fulfillment. The veil was torn from top to bottom, we now have access into the Holy of holies by faith, through the blood of Christ alone. In sum, God has made 2/3rds of the Law of Moses impossible to obey. That should speak volumes to Torahists.

[@justindarnellfpv]

@@veritasmatters2662🤯 that was mind blowing and so simple

[@nvdxn]

agreed. how can you say the Law is foundational if you don't keep it when James said be doers of the Law and not hearers only decieving yourselves. We might think we can read the Law and then not obey it and be decieved, but YHVH is not decieved.

[@justindarnellfpv]

“None of them shall teach his neighbor, and none his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them.” ‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭8‬:‭11‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ I don’t know if you’ve considered this verse. “Know the Lord” is ginosko experiential knowledge. “For all shall know Me” that know is eido which means to see and know. What did Jesus say? “A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”” ‭‭John‬ ‭13‬:‭34‬-‭35‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ When you see this passage see “as I have loved you” that’s not in the law anywhere because God became a man and showed His love by the acts of becoming a man and then. In other words it’s like Philippians 2:3-8

[@jaylar6442]

1:03:35 - Again, a command does not need to be reiterated in order to still be valid. The command against beastiality is never reiterated in the NT, but I'm pretty sure Christians would agree that's still binding.

[@PhrenicosmicOntogeny]

You are so ridiculously, absurdly wrong. The New Testament prohibits sexual immorality generally. Matthew 15, Acts 15, 1 Thessalonians 4, and 1 Corinthians 6 & 7, Hebrews 13, Galatians 5, Colossians 3, Ephesians 5. Bestiality is included under the blanket term of sexual immorality. So, yes, that command is reiterated.

[@jaylar6442]

37:15 - So no, the Pharisees did NOT keep the Law. In elevating their own tradition above the Law of God, they were not keeping the Law of God.

[@jaylar6442]

1:00 - Is everything explicitly spelled out in the Noah story? No. But did Noah already know the difference between clean and unclean? Yep. We're not explicitly told that God told Him this distinction, but it is obviously implied that He must have at some point. (Genesis 7:2,8)

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Agreed! Earlier in Genesis, we learned that Noah already had some concept of clean and unclean animals. That sense in which those animals were considered clean/unclean is not expressly explained, as you pointed out. Nevertheless, in Genesis 9:1-3, we discover that, in fact, God told Noah "every living thing that moves shall be food for you" (Gen 9:3). Noah was allowed to eat *all* the animals: "every living thing that moves." Rob

[@jaylar6442]

@@TheBiblicalRoots Did he? Did Noah eat any of the unclean animals? And why was he told to bring 7 pairs of clean animals , and only two of the unclean? That's a big difference. What would have happened if he had eaten one of those two unclean animals?

[@jawnatutorow]

​@@TheBiblicalRoots in Acts Peter is offended that he's told to kill and eat the unclean animals in his vision, he said nothing unclean has ever entered his mouth, later in Acts it's revealed that YHWH is talking about men not food. We need all of scripture in context to understand all of YHWHs message. 'Old' and 'new' testaments are very valid for Gods people.

[@According_To_Matt]

​@@jawnatutorow what makes a man unclean?

[@jaylar6442]

Out of curiosity, Mr. Solberg, did you coin the expression "Torahism"? I'd never heard of it until you.

[@caidtc4555]

Yes. I think it’s helpful.

[@FormerTrucker]

In Genesis God told Adam and Eve how they sinned. He said you disobeyed my voice saying do not eat of this tree. And you are absolutely right it had nothing to do with the Torah itself it was disobeying the very voice of God telling them not to do something and they went and did it anyway.

[@notinfluencedbywindsofshif8120]

Solberg, when Steve says the Pharisees didn't keep the Laws of Moses, it means the same with your understanding of Torah Plus of the Pharisees, when you add to the Torah (or) when you substract from the Torah: Both groups are not keeping the Torah the way Jesus did! Keeping the laws of Moses is under the condition of not adding nor substracting from it. Keeping it exactly as is written, no more, no less!

[@salpezzino7803]

Funny how Steve's cult loves to use Matthew 23: 2 “The scribes and Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3So practice and observe everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. ---- then they claim that Christianity are Today's Pharisees - Seems Double-minded

[@notinfluencedbywindsofshif8120]

@@salpezzino7803 Its more important to focus on what Jesus actually says, then try to discredit any one group that are following the way Jesus walked. If you do not like the way Steve walks, then how can you love the way Jesus walked?

[@salpezzino7803]

@@notinfluencedbywindsofshif8120 I understand why you call yourself 'shifting doctrine' You follow a Wrong Jesus. Maybe you can help me? Explain how Jesus's Bride missed what Steve is teaching these last 2000yrs. We both know that any new enlightenment comes from Satan.

[@salpezzino7803]

@@notinfluencedbywindsofshif8120 the Bible you read was Canonized by Christian Men of God who worshipped on the Lord's Day and didn't keep the law of Moses. How did they miss what Steve and all the teachers in the Jewish/Hebrew Roots teach? Seems impossible right?

[@notinfluencedbywindsofshif8120]

@@salpezzino7803 Again your assuming others missed the mark, instead of realizing when you walk as Jesus walked your hitting the mark!

[@jeabluvburton5540]

I really appreciate and respect and amount of work that went into this video…but :):):) It’s interesting that at one point you made the comment that Steve was approaching his interpretations through “Torah first” and that it taints his ability to divide the word rightly - but I think you did something similar at the end of your video - you say that Torah does not apply because Yeshua never mentions it - but I think that’s for two reasons; 1. It’s implied in the culture and time He’s living in that He should not have to SAY that Torah still applies, so that’s not really a good argument and is ALSO dangerous, and 2. If none of it applied, then why were Yeshua and the disciples still doing things that were related to Torah? I think you and Steve should actually talk live - would probably clear up a lot of confusion and misunderstanding of “intent” in both of your comments. REALLY love the conversation and think it’s important!

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thanks, Jeabluv! You bring up some good points! The Torah's rituals of Saturday Sabbath, eating kosher, keeping the feasts, and being circumcised were never prohibited or forbidden. So followers of Jesus are free to do these things. Which is why we see the apostles and disciples still keeping some of these things even after Jesus' resurrection. There was no reason for them to stop doing so. They were part of their Jewish tradition and culture, and for followers of Jesus, those things are permitted. But they are not _required,_ as we see, for example, in 1 Cor 9:19-23. And, I agree, it would be fun and could be profitable to have a live debate/discussion with Steve! Blessings, Rob

[@jaylar6442]

The New Testament wasn't written in a vacuum. When the term "New Covenant" was used by people like Messiah and the writer of Hebrews in the NT, it was with the context of passages like Jeremiah 31.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

It wasn't just within the context of Jeremiah 31, the whole concept of a "new covenant" came from Jeremiah 31:31-34! In fact when the writer of Hebrews quotes that passage from Jeremiah (in Hebrews 8) it's the longest quotation from the Tanakh in the NT. R.

[@jaylar6442]

Exactly. The New Covenant was God's Torah Law written on our heart, i.e. the desire to walk out that Torah. When God said through Jeremiah, "I will put my Law within them," the listeners had in mind what was meant by the term "Law." It was the instructions given through Moses. That's what they had. So, that's what God was talking about. And neither Messiah, nor the writer of Hebrews ever amended that.

[@jaylar6442]

37:38 - What are the manade requirements the Hebrew Roots Movement adds? PLEASE, elaborate.

[@webmasterrip]

Crickets

[@caidtc4555]

He mentioned it in the video. -Requiring that the 7 feasts of YHWH are the only feasts we can observe.

[@patriciastordahl1220]

I just had this same debate with a pastor who holds this Hebrew root theology Blows my mind this man used ecact same verses. Jumped and distracted. I told him I did not want to give my thoughts or my opinions but stick to scripture. He refused to define himself as blood lineage to Jacob aka Israel. He is neither Jew nor Gentile. Why are they stuck on Torah. What is the finished work of the Cross? Which covenant do they believe in. The conversation ended with my ending as it was going around nowhere. I read complete teaching of Jesus, Peter and Paul. He just dismissed the basic new covenant and the conversation was going nowhere. So sad.

[@IAmALawyerToo]

Well done! Grateful for your integrity! As a former trial lawyer, I am blown away by your ability to engage and your intellectual honesty. Thank you!

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thank you so much Julie! Blessings, Rob

[@stephaniedougherty1344]

I tried to post a comment from the position of someone who follows teachings from people such as Steve, Sean Griffin (Kingdom in Context), Michael OHMAN (Olive Branch Fellowship), and Adam Fink (Parable of the Vineyard) and it appears to me that only preconceived bias is allowed in the comments so I'm going to make this very simple. How about actually listening to and understanding the positions of these brothers before going off and making "exposing of false doctrine" videos of people when you don't even fully understand their position. Hebrew Roots Movement is actually a label, a term that certain groups label THEMSELVES as. HRM teaches something VERY DIFFERENT from what these brothers (Steve, Sean, Michael, Adam) are teaching. I think going forward it would be wise of you to make a distinction between those who label themselves as a PART OF that movement and those who don't. THESE BROTHERS DO NOT AGREE WITH THE HEBREW ROOTS MOVEMENT. They're simply people with scriptures looking for other people to study scriptures with. They do NOT teach Talmud, Kabalah, or traditions of MEN, they teach SCRIPTURE. THAT'S IT. As I'm sure you've noticed, some of conclusions they have come to are very different from normal teachings. Praise Yah for that! Praise Yah for people who just want to read the Bible and understand it for what is ACTUALLY SAYING! It has greatly effected believers ALL OVER THE WORLD who have a true heart for Yah and WANT to honor him AS MESSIAH TAUGHT US TO. What a blessing! The question isn't "do we HAVE to keep the Torah?" The question is "do we WANT to keep the Torah?" Read the book of first John, and all of the gospels, compare your own life to that of Messiah's and the disciples, then ask yourself if they look the same. Do we, right now, today, live AS MESSIAH LIVED? Nobody HAS TO do anything. Those who LOVE HIM, KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. It's not a mystery is not rocket science,, it doesn't take a theological professor to explain. It only takes the ability to read the scriptures and the ability to pray and ask the Spirit of Yah to come and show you what's true and what isn't. That's it. It's YAH'S WORD, HE knows what it says. I pray Abba blesses you on your journey to understand these things brother. And I pray Abba guides you in making the correct distinctions for your followers of who is GENUINELY teaching things in His Word and who is teaching false doctrine. It's a big bundle of hot mess out there right now and people need a solid foundation to build on. There are MANY false teachers in the world right now... I get why your investigating all of this, I really do. But you need to understand that you are putting words in their mouths that they are NOT saying, due to your preconceived ideologies. There's a line, and your crossing it. I'm not saying any of this to be disrespectful. I'm saying this because you are now putting yourself in the position of judge over who is teaching SCRIPTURE and who isn't when you haven't fully understood the position of these people. I pray Abba helps us ALL as believers to come to an understanding of His Word in the way HE DESIRES for us. Shalom and blessings

[@abideintheWord]

Do you happen to know if the Torah adherents have any explanation of Galatians 4 talking about Hagar and the covenant of the flesh? I haven’t found anything yet. It literally explains Hagar was a symbol of the covenant on Mount Sinai and how we are not her children but children of Sarah (the free woman). He calls it a covenant of bondage and how they are children of the flesh.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

I'm not aware of any specific arguments about that passage, but in my experience "Torah observant" Christians are rarely short of creative interpretations. :-) RL

[@adel8632]

@@TheBiblicalRoots not to be disrespectful to them but I think you are perhaps extending too much grace in calling them Christians if they clearly deny the finished work of Christ on the cross, and side with what Jesus called a “brood of vipers”. The more I hear from them the more I think this is so dangerous and see that they are so deceived. I’m saddened by the depth of deception. At the core, I don’t view them as “Christian”. Maybe I’ve missed something. I freely admit that you deal with this more graciously than I.

[@jaylar6442]

56:18 - ARE a shadow of things to come. Are. Present tense. After Messiah's death, they still point to things to come. Messiah is the substance. It doesn't negate the shadow.

[@dkl5061]

“He that dwelleth in the secret place of the Most High Shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: My God; in him will I trust.” ‭‭Psalm‬ ‭91‬:‭1‬-‭2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[@toddboucher3302]

Enjoy your teaching. Since my wife got into Hebrew roots and it’s caused so much division in our marriage that I was actually debating among myself is this is sure a different God just because Jesus comes into marriages to heal things and it seems that Hebrew roots comes in and everything gets divided it’s not just with me and heard in many cases that would be an interesting study, but I’m listening to your debating style and I really like it if I’m debating somebody like were the faith person I get some more argumentative than you are you’re very kind and you’re able to push your your point of you so hopefully other people can really understand and learn from it

[@justindarnellfpv]

I’m sorry to hear that. Dan Mohler has some amazing teachings on the transforming power of perspective and love. I know what you mean because someone real close to me got into 119 “ministries” about 12 years ago and has only gone deeper into the law with no fruits of the Spirit being evidenced at any time. Anyways I pray you can show the love of Christ and that will win back your bride

[@jobeck7606]

I understand. My boyfriend, when we began dating, stated, "I'm a Messianic Jewish believer." But, in actuality, he's a HRM believer. I didn't know what that was until recently. Now, I understand and I will be single again; instead of being told that I am "going to Hell" and that he's "the head and you [myself] are the butt." I pray that Jesus makes Himself real to him.

[@JacobWeaver2023]

“Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:” ‭‭Luke‬ ‭12‬:‭51‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[@JacobWeaver2023]

“The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.” ‭‭Luke‬ ‭12‬:‭53‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[@Ghelojumper]

This has been among many conversations in my household as well. It's very tough navigating complex theological discussions.

[@larrysnellings7992]

The irony I see with a lot of people in the HRM is that they will claim Christians need to fulfill the Old Covenant to truly please God, when Hebrews 8:13 explicitly states that the Old Covenant has become obsolete (which means no longer in use) and is about to disappear. This literally happened at the destruction of the Temple in 70 A.D. and since that time absolutely no one is capable of obeying the Law of Moses. And simply because one cannot obey one part of the Law of Moses because the Temple is gone does not nullify the requirement. Ultimately, the Temple was destroyed because of Israel's sin, and that does not invalidate any OT Law. So no one who claims to be HR actually fulfills the law. The Law has become obsolete because the New Covenant organically grows out of the Abrahamic Covenant, not the Mosaic one (which was simply added as an appendage to the Abrahamic Covenant), and is thus premised upon a more certain promise. Interestingly, God specifically said the New Covenant would not be like the Mosaic Covenant (Hebrews 8:9/Jeremiah 31:32). It is different because it is built not by obeying the Mosaic Covenant, but by having faith in Christ. That faith in Christ leads one to obey the command of Christ, namely, to obey the law of love. Hebrews 8 explains how the laws of the Torah were types and shadows that find their fulfillment in Christ. Thus, in Christ those laws are fulfilled by all who are in Him by faith. One needs not to follow dietary food laws, or levitical laws, or feasts and sabbaths. They all find their fulfillment in Christ and all who are in Christ fulfill them by default.

[@georgebossie7426]

Although sabbath and food laws aren’t what saves us, the Torah is a guide of sin, and a light pointing us to Jesus. So if God said to keep the sabbath day holy and that eating non kosher is sinful, although following the law dosnt save us, shouldn’t we still do it for the sake of goodness? Just like keeping a monogamous marriage dosnt save us, but it’s still sinful to commit adultery, even though it’s not a salvation issue. I don’t get why we don’t follow Torah for the love of Jesus, although we are saved by faith.

[@georgebossie7426]

Just like we could steal or be covetous, but for the sake of goodness, we don’t. Sin is still sin even though we are saved

[@shellyblanchard5788]

What did Jesus say about the Pharisee and the publican?

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

Paul taught obedience to the Law of Moses/God is necessary for Salvation. in 1 Corinthains 6;9-10, Galatians 5:19-21 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Fornicators: Deut 22:13-14, 22:28-29, Lev 18....Idolators Exodus 204-5.....Adulterers: Lev 20:10, Homosexuals 18: 22....Sodomites Genesis 19:4-7, Thieves Exodus 20:8, Covetous Exodus 20:10, Drunkards Deut 21;20, Numbers 6, Revilers Lev 24:10-23, Exodus 20:16, Extortioners Lev 19:35-37....

[@gregparis8948]

George,. May I respectfully urge that you rethink the position you took in your response. I am a Jewish believer. It is not possible for any living person to keep the Law of Moshe, for there is no Temple, no priests, no altar, no Jew or Gentile attending the three mandatory Pilgrim Feasts upon the Temple Mount, and yes, I could go on for pages pointing out the plethora commands no person upon earth can keep, no matter how one interprets or twists Holy Writ, NT., or OT.. In Yeshua, your brother, Pastor Greg

[@shellyblanchard5788]

@@gregparis8948 I am part Jewish myself on dad's side. He was part indian. His mother the after she was in her 90's , looked like Indian sqaw. She was a sweet woman to and was a believer. Keeping all of those of the old covenant is just rituals. Now we have the real thing through Christ. We don't have to do shadows of the old covenant. They are only bondage of the flesh.

[@indo3052]

Solberg said the pharisees kept the law. Paul claims otherwise Gal6: 13 For neither they themselves who are circumcised keep the law; but desire to have you circumcised, that they may glory in your flesh.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Ah, yes, the hypocrisy of the Pharisees: _Do as I say, not as I do._ It was a common refrain of Jesus. “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat, so do and observe whatever they tell you, but not the works they do. For they preach, but do not practice. They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on people's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to move them with their finger. They do all their deeds to be seen by others." (Matt 23:2-5a) RLS

[@serdlc64]

9:58 I don’t know what to say to you Mr Solberg. Yah just has to open your eyes to the truth. This is what the Parable of the Ten Virgins is about. It is like the mainstream church ( foolish virgins ) that dont keep Shabbat or food instructions or His Feasts, etc. and the wise ones that do. Yah says to depart from Him, He never knew you.The Catholic Church changed His COMMANDED Shabbat to sunday. You DONT change what Yah commanded. Anyone that has repented IS ISRAEL. But all Israelites don’t make it in the kingdom. There is so so much more , but unless YHWH lets you see, you won’t. Sin IS breaking Torah. AND you need to read what the NEW COVENANT is. He came yes, to die for our sins , the Torah will be written on our hearts with a desire to follow them AND for the Lost Sheep of Israel. People will never, ever, ever understand the Bible unless they know who we are. Really, the only thing to do for people is to pray they see the truth. So then, what is your argument if you just read Philippians about Paul keeping the law?? Why do you think we aren’t supposed to?? Yes , not celebrating PAGAN holidays is against our Creators Word. He hates paganism and YES He said only what to celebrate and those are HIS feasts. People just don’t want to be told what to do. That sums it up, except you are very contradicting in what you say. If you say the Torah is relevant, then you say we don’t need to follow. Yeah always go with what Yahusha says? What do you THINK we are doing??? Following what He says and did of what we are doing. STEVE IS VERY HUMBLE AND HONEST. Steve had never shown me any deception since I’ve been watching him. Noah didn’t have the tablets BUT He knew what the food commands were. Abraham didn’t have the tablets but He KNEW the law. You must be a lawyer, you twist pretty good😂 and go back to the beginning of the Book and read what He says to do FOREVER. Your teachings are going to lead many people the wrong way. Yes because once saved always saved isn’t in the Bible. Read the first chapters of Revelation. He says to endure TILL THE END (walking in obedience to Torah) and THEN we will be saved.Um yeah... faith without works is DEAD.YES we over the Torah! HE IS the living Torah. Reallllyyy??? His commands to His people have NOT changed ever. Yes. Every moving thing that was CLEAN TO EAT. They knew the law. Like I said... look up the New covenant You better read bud of the forever commands in the Torah. You are dangerous.

[@gregparis8948]

Bro. Rob,. Lev. 16:16 clearly commands all Torah observant males to attend the three Pilgrim Feasts at the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, every year. I have never met a Torah observant Christian, or Jew who obeys this most fundamental of Mosaic commands. Pastor, Greg. 👍

[@notinfluencedbywindsofshif8120]

That would require that the temple have an actual temple that is endorsed by the Creator. 2nd the actual levitical Priesthood would need to be in place. So if you haven't seen Torah observer there three times a year. It's not because they aren't ready to attend. It's on the Creators terms not man!

[@batteries671]

what about the nation when they were in exile in Babylon? My understanding is that the pilgrim feasts only apply when there is a functioning temple and priesthood.

[@gregparis8948]

@@batteries671 I missed that verse in Torah

[@gregparis8948]

@@notinfluencedbywindsofshif8120 I missed that verse in Torah

[@batteries671]

@@gregparis8948 check out Deuteronomy 30:1-3 LEB: """“And then when all of these things come upon you, the blessing and the curse that I have set before you and you call them to mind among the nations there where Yahweh your God has scattered you, and you return to Yahweh and you listen to his voice according to all that I am commanding you today, both you and your children, with all your heart and with all your inner self, and Yahweh your God will restore your fortunes, and he will have compassion upon you, and he will again gather you together from all the peoples where Yahweh your God scattered you there.""" when Israel went into exile, they couldn't keep everything written in the Law, but God still expected them to seek Him with their heart, and keep everything that they could until such a time as he allowed them to return from exile. Just because they couldn't go to Jerusalem, or do anything in the temple (there was no temple at the time) didn't mean that they were off the hook to keep the law, that's what Deuteronomy 30:1-3 explains, that they are to seek God and do everything. Of course they couldn't actually do all the things in the book in exile, but the expectation was that they do their best. You seem to be framing this as a matter of justification which it absolutely is not. It has nothing to do with justification which comes by faith in Jesus Christ. Do you believe in a coming millenial reign? If so, do you believe that mankind will be required to return to Jerusalem for the feasts? Micah 4:2: """And many nations will come and say, “Come! Let us go up to the mountain of Yahweh, and to the temple of the God of Jacob, that he may teach us his ways, and that we may walk in his paths,” for the law will go out from Zion, and the word of Yahweh from Jerusalem.""" Zechariah 14:16-17: """ And then every survivor from all those nations coming against Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the king, Yahweh of hosts, and celebrate the Feast of Booths. And then whoever of the clans of the earth does not go up to Jerusalem to worship the king, Yahweh of hosts, it will not rain on them. """

[@notinfluencedbywindsofshif8120]

Solberg when you invent that Jesus created new laws which according to your understanding in the New Testament you believe we have "The laws of Jesus". Yet never did Jesus ever say Christians have new and different laws then what God gave Moses to write down! You error when you add different laws for different groups! Not sure your ready to be corrected, even though you say you are!

[@seekeroftruth6490]

For about the last year now i have been following Hebrew Roots teachers. They sounded good but something just didn't fit. Thank you so much for your teaching! Now I see why something didn't fit! I think some of their teaching is good, at the heart of it, it is wrong! again thank you so much!

[@robertcain3426]

119 Ministries have to make up their mind, which covenant they want to be a part of. It seems like they have chosen the covenant through Moses, the one that points to Jesus. You can't have both. You are either all in. Or you are all out.

[@fernandodejesus2799]

Do you keep the Ten Commenments of Moses?

[@pierreferguson1300]

Truly, the law given through Moses in Old Testament Judaism (Matthew 5:43; Leviticus 19:18; Deuteronomy 23:6) is not the law of Christ that came by the Lord Jesus in New Testament Christianity (Matthew 5:44; John 13:34; John 15:12), based on Hebrews 7:11-12, Hebrews 8:7-9 (Jeremiah 31:31-32), and Luke 5:36-39. Amen.

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

O.T. wasn't Judaism..... The NC says the Torah will be written on our hearts not done away with, /is the Torah written on your heart?

[@pierreferguson1300]

@@Jeffmacaroni1542 Matthew 5:44 and John 13:34 is written in my heart based on Jeremiah 31:31-34. Go and learn what the English word "not (Jeremiah 31:32)" means.

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

All followers of Messiah obey Fathers Torah. IF you don't Murder, commit adultery. steal, then you're "Keeping the Law" Obeying Fathers Torah. Exodus 20:13-15... Friend have you fallen from grace ? ....... None of us are perfect and we make mistakes. 1 John 1:8-9

[@jaylar6442]

40:38 - Paul teaches a similar idea. (Rom. 11;21) 42:42 - And yet, if asked, "So, if I accept Christ as my Savior, does that mean I can just go out and do whatever I want, and I'll still be saved?", I'd bet there's not a single Christian pastor worth their salt who would say yes.

[@nvdxn]

So Steve at Torah Family puts together an explanation of Paul's letter to the Galatians which identifies the 'law that was added for transgression' as the 'curse of the Law' (the 'second death') that was added after Adam's transgression in the garden and 'death' came upon all men (Rom 5:12). In Gal 3:22 Paul writes that ALL are confined 'under sin', so ALL need the promise of faith. We are all guilty and so we are all 'under the curse of the Law' which is the 'second death', the destruction of our souls in the lake of fire (Matt 10:28&Rev 20:11-15). Paul even wrote that the Messiah has ransomed us from the 'curse of the Law' in Gal 3:13 i.e. if we are redeemed from the 'curse of the law' then it should logically follow that we are no longer 'under' it. Therefore, in context, the 'tutor' we are 'no longer under' after we come to Christ is the 'curse of the law'. So the conclusion is that we are redeemed from the 'curse' we all deserved as sinners (Rom 3:23) which is 'the second death', aka the 'power of death' & the 'power of the grave' (Hos 13:14, Heb 2:14, Rev 20:6) and Mr Solberg says it is a 'dangerous' teaching and it needs to be refuted? So someone has a different understanding of Paul than you do, obviously both interpretations can't be right - so what standard do you use to determine which one is the correct interpretation? According to Peter, whichever interpretation of Paul is leading you to the error of LAWLESSNESS, i.e. the error of believing you can now keep LESS OF GOD'S LAW. Peter says the ERROR OF LAWLESSNESS is the wrong interpretation of Paul's letters. 2 Pet 3:15b-17 "our beloved brother Paul wrote to you, according to the wisdom given to him; as also in all his epistles, speaking in them concerning these things, IN WHICH ARE SOME THINGS HARD TO UNDERSTAND, WHICH THE UNLEARNED AND UNSETTLED PERVERT, as also they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. Then beloved, you knowing beforehand, WATCH LEST BEING LED AWAY BY THE ERROR OF THE LAWLESS you fall from your own steadfastness." So why does a bible scholar feel the need to refute fellow believers who have an interpretation of Paul which does not lead them to the ERROR OF LAWLESSNESS. Is Mr Solberg really saying that obeying Gods Law is the ERROR OF THE LAWLESS that Peter is warning us against?

[@ItsInMyShortsvids]

Hello son I know your 4 and still learning, but if you want to stay my son, your going to have to not break any of my rules from here on out. If you do-I don’t love you and you are not my son. I would never feel this way towards my son. But instead I’m happy to be able to come along side him to have his best life possible If my salvation is ultimately still dependent on what I do, I’m doomed, and I think that’s the point of Jesus, to look upon when we are bit. To know we’re saved through Him and to be invigorated with the Spirit of Truth

[@jamesmunn8144]

I really appreciated your thoughtful responses. I am seeking truth and there is a lot to go through on both the HRM position and yours. Very healthy and helpful. Thank you.

[@batteries671]

Steve never teaches that sinning causes you to lose your salvation, Why did you say this Rob?

[@salpezzino7803]

that is your take away from this? Steve twisting the Holy Scripture is not an issue for you?

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Hi, Batteries. Do you agree with the statement, "Walking in obedience to the Torah is what keeps us in our salvation"?

[@batteries671]

@@salpezzino7803 is my take away that Rob falsely accused Steve of teaching you can lose your salvation based on works towards the beginning of his video? yeah I think that's pretty serious

[@batteries671]

@@TheBiblicalRoots no of course not, could you provide a link to that quotation? I've never heard Steve say that

[@salpezzino7803]

@@batteries671 who cares about your take away. Steve teaches Jewish/Hebrew Roots. So both Christianity and Judaism considered it a Cult. We shall find out on Judgement Day. Fear God

[@musicinspire1745]

Given the gross misrepresentations and other logical fallacies and outright fabrications on the part of Steve, I find it VERY hard to believe that he perpetrated all those falsehoods and character assassinations accidentally or unknowingly. Those who are in a position of weakness, and KNOW they are, most generally resort to the kinds of tactics in his response. This is textbook fallacies and ad hominem. This video would serve as a great teaching tool for Fallacies 101 and Ad Hominem 101. How could ANYONE with half intelligence NOT know that he was misrepresenting another's words and views? If the deceived knew they were deceived, then they would not be deceived....right?

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

People have elevated the son ABOVE the Father and if the Son didn't specifically repeat a command its no longer for us., They follow deceivers and Not Scripture.

[@musicinspire1745]

@@Jeffmacaroni1542 No doubt that the Torah-ists do indeed follow deceivers. The foundational Law of God, upon which the Mosaic Law was erected, remains, and is written in our hearts by the Lord Himself. As to them elevating the Son above the Father, I'd have to see that specifically, for Jesus said that those who see Him, see the Father, for they are One. That's good enough for me.

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

@@musicinspire1745 I did not come to abolish the Law but show you how to properly live it. Matt 5:17-19

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

@@musicinspire1745 Some day when you come to the truth and after you repent for your false teaching that we can live in sin by transgressing Gods law. you will thank me.

[@musicinspire1745]

@@Jeffmacaroni1542 You too seem to have mastered the art of false accusation, because at no time did I ever suggest disobedience to the Law of God. So, please come back with something that's consistent with what I have said and what I actually believe. If you are fixated on the Mosaic Law, then that's your own struggle, because you can't keep it to the satisfaction of Yah.

[@Maki-ws2mp]

@mr. Solberg. Hi! I am a new Christian and being so there are a lot of things that I still need more understanding. When it comes to salvation, say, yes I believe in Jesus Christ and all of His teaching, however, I do not trust myself because I am only a human being and is still bound to commit sins such as sexualy immorality for instance. I know it's a sin and yet I continue doing so and then repeatedly ask for forgiveness from God and yet I continue doing it still... Will I still be saved? And if, yes, how will be saved still?

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Hello, Maki! The Bible teaches that we are saved by our faith alone, not because we are so perfect and sinless, but because we have placed our faith in Jesus, who was perfect and sinless. We have a video that talks all about the process of being saved and why we sometimes still struggle with sin. You might find it helpful: *6 Big Problems if Our Works Save Us* kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXS0o5Wlnr-rgZI Blessings, Rob

[@Maki-ws2mp]

@@TheBiblicalRoots Thank you so much!

[@G.H._bunny]

Great explanation and very mature delivery too. I pray that people will watch this and God will use it to help people.

[@shellyblanchard5788]

Under the Torah even Moses couldn't enter the promise land because of disobedience. He smote the rock instead of speaking to it. God said Moses didn't sanctify him in front of the people. 🙁.

[@velomir11]

This video still seems like more personal attacks and little attention on S.M.'s actual theology.

[@velomir11]

14:0 32:30

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

That's interesting, velomir11. Can you provide an example of where I attacked Steve personally in this video? R.

[@velomir11]

So, first I need to say, I'm not sure how it went to this account but I'm going to comment from my normal account, which is VernMiroth, and I will reference Velomir11 to authenticate it as me

[@donna9159]

I'm shocked that Steve is so far off on what the TRUE Gospel is. The Old Covenant has been trumped by the New Covenant. "For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God." (Galatians 2:19, KJV)

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

The NC says the Torah will be written on our hearts and minds........ R.L. is blind to the truth, At 40:11 So according to you we can live in sin the rest of our lives and still make it into Heaven ? Haven't you read 1 Corinthians 6:9-10? Galatians 5:19-21??? Paul teaches Obedience is necessary for Salvation.

[@doecolorado]

@Jeffmacaroni1542 Paul specifically states we he could not live for God whole under the law of Moses. The condemns. . .period! We need to be removed from it so we can live by the Spirit. That can only happen with the new birth. Paul had to deal with the same arguments - that if we are not under the mosaic law, that means we can live in sin. Roman's 6:1-3. "Shall we go on sinning that grace may abound..." Same today, people misinterpreted not being under the law as having a license to sin. Not being under the law frees us from the condemnation the law brings because everyone is guilty of breaking it and will have to pay the penalty for breaking it unless we are under a new law. "The law of the Spirit has set you free from the law of sin and death." Romans 8:2

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

@@doecolorado The law of sin and death......Not Gods perfect Law. So did Jesus obey laws only for women ? Did he shape shift into a woman ? Levite priest? Farmers? You're as unlearned as Rob is.

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

@@doecolorado Haven't you read 1 Corinthians 6:9-10? Galatians 5:19-21??? Paul teaches Obedience is necessary for Salvation. All those sins listed come from the Torah.

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

Paul taught obedience to the Law of Moses/God is necessary for Salvation. in 1 Corinthains 6;9-10, Galatians 5:19-21 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Fornicators: Deut 22:13-14, 22:28-29, Lev 18....Idolators Exodus 204-5.....Adulterers: Lev 20:10, Homosexuals 18: 22....Sodomites Genesis 19:4-7, Thieves Exodus 20:8, Covetous Exodus 20:10, Drunkards Deut 21;20, Numbers 6, Revilers Lev 24:10-23, Exodus 20:16, Extortioners Lev 19:35-37....

[@katrinalucas5173]

As a new believer i wanted to know all that i could and couldnt do.... a list to obey and ive found other people seek something similar. It seems to be our makeup.... that we have to do something to either achieve or maintain or please God. And this comes from a place of sincerity. The new covenant is different from the old.... there are no lengthy lists of commands, as commands can be kept but without a heart change. His salvation was a gift, our work.... acceptance and allowing his works of changing our heart's and minds to produce His fruit for others. 😊

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

People have elevated the son ABOVE the Father and if the Son didn't specifically repeat a command its no longer for us., They follow deceivers and Not Scripture.

[@silverminnow4774]

I and the Father are one. Messiah

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

Sean Griffin .....Don't let anyone lie to you and tell you God's law was a burden and unloving. The Son of God was the perfect example of love who obeyed God's law with every thought and breath, and he is the One who sets you "free indeed." He was the walking and talking example of the law of God. ✅ Learn the Law that He knew. ✅ Do the Law that He did. ✅ Love with the Law like He loved.

[@SheIsADaughterOfTheMostHigh]

Sean Griffin teaches that Yeshua is sacrificing animals on our behalf in heaven right now. He teaches that Yeshua’s sacrifice and blood atonement for us was not LITERAL. Read the word for yourself and ask the Ruach for discernment. Yeah, you should run far and fast from Sean Griffin. He teaches a false, distorted gospel.

[@whymindsetmatters]

If the gentiles have been grafted into Israel how can you say you don't have to obey Torah? Have you created your own religion apart from Torah? Sounds like replacement theology. For what text/doctrine did the Messiah, apostles, and the first church follow since there was no new testament? All they had was the Torah, law, and the prophets. What else is there after that? Please explain. If the law was done away with how are we supposed to love him? If we love him we are to keep his commandments. True or no?The words of Yahushua are true.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Hi, TN! Respectfully, I think the misunderstanding comes from your assumption that the law independently embodies God’s moral authority, and therefore, if we are no longer under the law, we no longer have any moral authority over us. But that’s not true. Jesus is our moral authority! It is Him we obey. Blessings, Rob

[@whymindsetmatters]

I'm not assuming anything.

[@vernmiroth1626]

Velomir11 here. So, to continue what I was saying on the other thread, at approximately 7:45 you show a clip from a past episode l, and the clip begins with you saying ",,,before we jump into the teaching itself,,,". This clause separates what you're about to talk about , the red flags, from his teaching, you are in effect saying "the next subject I am talking about is NOT about his teaching,, and that is exactly what you do, the three red flags are in their very nature personal observations you have made about the man himself. For example, I have known his last name for at least 15 years. I hadn't even noticed that it wasn't currently on his website but I could think of a plethora of reasons why that might be the case I don't think that it was nearly as big of a deal as you made of it. Nor did I think his comments being turned off was noteworthy I could reference several other timestamps that I feel you made veiled insults to him, and many many more that you certainly set up strawmen and made inaccurate statements, but for now I'll just make a point about your comment at 31:30 and the pharisees You correctly stated that the Pharisees had traditions , aka "fences around the Torah" which they legislated as binding law. This in and of itself IS a violation of not only Torah but is a principle we find , in the beginning of the Bible (Deut 4:2), in the middle of the Bible, (Prov. 30:6) and at the end of the Bible (Rev 22:18,19). So for you to then you conclude that they followed the Torah very strictly,,,well that's a real head scratcher, Mark 7 is pretty clear on this and how Yeshua felt about these fences. To say that by adding more restrictions to Torah, this was somehow them following it more accurately is completely circular.

[@tobyrice99]

Bro. Solberg, ‏שלום ! I also live in Nashville, so that’s cool! Aside from that, I’m going to purchase your book on Torahism. I greatly appreciate your publishings. ‏שלום ‏לך

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

תודה Toby! Good to have you as a Nashville neighbor. Blessings, Rob

[@genegroover3721]

40:09 "wow, did you catch that?" Yes. An incredible statement. The atonement of Christ is not sufficient. I must now work to keep the salvation which was by grace through Faith. It must not have been a free gift of God.

[@timbeauxclary]

You made a comment about how Steve and other HRM folks say that if one doesn’t keep the law of Moses then one is “lawless”, and feels free to murder, steal, etc. I have had that accusation leveled at me many times. In my many years of being around Torahists, I have concluded that their view of the law of Moses seems to be this: they believe that God’s ultimate and final expression of how people are to live and conduct themselves is all bound up in the law of Moses. Many I have talked to over the years, including a couple of pastors of HRM churches, believe that the law of Moses was actually given by God as far back as Adam. It is also why they believe that Jesus came to point us back to Moses (their interpretation of Matthew 5)- that Jesus could not be bringing any further revelation of the will of God, because God’s complete will was fully expressed to Moses at Sinai.

[@JohnDoe-zg6fn]

Wow. That is really reaching. And I thought atheist were bad with that.

[@JacobWeaver2023]

“And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12‬:‭17‬ ‭

[@josueg88209]

Sabbath is on Genesis 2 Kosher is on Genesis 6-9 Feast was introduced in exodus which all say to keep forever Circumcision is in the heart . This one is probably the only one I can agree with you

[@scottdonehoo4266]

Excellent video Mr. Solberg! My wife and I (recovering Torahists) have been blessed by your lectures for the past several months. There is a definite shortage of ministries addressing in depth the theology of what I fear will become one of the most robust and pervasive heretical movements of this century. One note I will add, at 37:47 you note that Torahism commonly teaches that the seven moedim exclusively are allowed to be celebrated. In my experience few if any Torah preachers seem to teach this and this in a minority position. Rather what is often taught if that in Deuteronomy 12:30-31 the Torah prohibits rededicating pagan rituals and practices to God. They will further make speculative claims that Christmas, Easter, Halloween, and sometimes St. Valentine's Day and St. Patricks Day are reconstituted pagan or Catholic holidays that should not be celebrated. As days such as Independence Day and Thanksgiving have clear national origins unrelated to alleged paganism they will often observe these days. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWnWfIGFrd6Xbtk This video is one of the most comprehensive and in my experience commonly cited when dealing with the common Torahist claims about Christmas and Easter and I would be curious to hear your thoughts. Thank you again for your lectures and my God bless your ministry mightily.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thank you for your kind words and the clarity, Scott. Much appreciated! Blessings, Rob

[@nvdxn]

You said 'the seven moedim are allowed to be celebrated. In my experience few if any Torah preachers seem to teach this" I am curious to know which Torah teacher you have listened to? In your experience what makes Hebrew Roots heretical? As Christians for over 40 years we never celebrated Halloween and find it interesting that you claim it is not a pagan holiday, so I dont believe the belief that Halloween is a pagan holiday is a specualtive belief only shared by people in the Hebrew Roots community.

[@velvetvideo]

Chuck Missler has a great video on the pagan roots of Halloween if interested. @@nvdxn

[@kristinquezada1896]

Thank you for your teachings. I am coming out of HR after 14 yrs and this is helpful. Do you have any teachings on Matt 15 about how it seems Jesus was affirming the law but coming against the man made traditions? Thanks!

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thank you, Kristin! I'm not sure I address the issue you're asking about the way you're asking. But I do have some videos that talk about Jesus' clash with the Pharisees over their traditions, as found in Matt 15 and Mark 7. Here's the most recent: *A rebuttal to David Wilber about the Torah food laws and Mark 7* kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIPXYZWHp9uBnpI Blessings, Rob

[@kristinquezada1896]

@@TheBiblicalRoots thanks so much… that’s what I was looking for!!

[@godsgirl9623]

I learned a lot. I think we can all learn from this style of healthy responses when someone disagrees with us. It felt like therapy watching your responses lol, and ive done plenty of that, just wanted you to know that i got a lot out of this, i hope a bunch of ppl watch it.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thank you, God's Girl! I am so grateful you found this video helpful. God is good! Blessings, Rob

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

R. L. is with Satan.... He claims were to NOT keep God's commandments (Torah) and if we do we;ve fallen from grace, Satan is enraged at those who keep God's Commandments...... Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

[@godsgirl9623]

@@Jeffmacaroni1542 thats harsh, responding in this way goes against a lot of what the bible teaches, i agree with this teaching, i understand that as a torah follower you feel differently, but your response really wasnt necessary or effective. If you want to get your point across, this is not the best way of doing it. There is nothing wrong with following or appreciating what the mosaic laws teach, but all over isaiah, prophecy tells us that he will forgive all our iniquity for His own sake, and our hearts/faith are what he desires, not a new appreciation for the laws of Israel, Blessings to you Brother, hope you dont take this as an attack but as a difference of opinion based on scripture

[@sundownsam3369]

@@Jeffmacaroni1542He probably will not respond to your post; he only responds to those who enjoy his distorted doctrine.

[@Sherlock423]

@@Jeffmacaroni1542 if you want to attack, your comment is good. If you want to discuss your disagreement, you fail. Did you want to pray for your enemy and love your neighbor or to rein fire down on Sodom?

[@jaylar6442]

32:15 - Read Matthew 15:1-9; Mark 7:1-13, and John 7:19. That's more reliable than a man made dictionary. It was absolutely the case. 35:12- The thing is, Mr. Solberg, in adding to the commandments in an attempt not to break them--in adding those fences around the commandments, they WERE breaking the Law in the process. (Deut. 4:2)

[@jaylar6442]

37:53 - This is an overgeneralization and an unfair blanket statement. It certainly can't be said this is a "common" teaching of Hebrew Roots. 38:12 - This is circumstantial evidence, at best. The fact that Messiah was at the temple during the feast of dedication, in no way proves He was celebrating it. It could simply be identifying the time of year it was. Like if someone was in Manti, Utah during the Mormon Miracle Pageant, it does not automatically follow that they are there to see the show.

[@irvinquijano]

Brother Rob ,wow i just love how passionate yet respectful you are and loving towards Hebrew roots people , i am absolutely inlove w your videos , i can't get enough

[@lesliemagby8445]

Can we say that sin is defined as breaking the instructional precepts that came out of God’s mouth. For Adam and Eve wouldn’t it be eating the fruit he told them not to eat? And so if there is no transgression of breaking instructions, there would be no sin right?

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

I think that works, Leslie! And I would add that sin is also about rebelling against the will of God. There are times when we know what God's will is without Him actually uttering an "instructional precept." And sin is disobeying or rebelling against God in that sense, too. Blessings! Rob

[@dallyjacobson2146]

Hi Rob, l used to watch Steve years ago, but as it definitely had teaching that would take me away from walking as a Christ one, but rather walk as an ancient Jew.

[@coreydavis5493]

Question: what happens if you believe in Christ, get saved but don’t follow the moral law?

[@jackwebster9246]

The actual problem with their interpretation of sin and John 3, is that the word "Law" nomos, is not in the text, as you said. Neither is transgression. NIV is not a literal translation and the KJV they use, also flawed. They can't answer questions like "Which mosaic command did Adam break?"

[@heatherkim6458]

Thank you so much, professor. I think that brothers who follow the Hebrew Root movement need our prayers. Shalom Shalom.

[@JacobWeaver2023]

“And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12‬:‭17‬ ‭KJV

[@leroybroun4106]

Mr. Solberg, thank you so much for taking on the Hebrew Roots teachers that clearly teach a different Gospel, but are very affective in confusing and shaking the average Christian. Plz help me understand if i'm on the right track (plz keep reading). Because the NT apostles explicitly refute and condemn these teachings, I personally believe these are intentional deceivers (wolves). Here's a simplified way i understand the Bible on this subject: Bible offers two mutually exclusive covenants, we can choose either, but we have to execute the terms of whichever we choose. so, if one chooses the Old Covenant then those terms have to be fulfilled without fail (since there's no possibility for sin sacrifice), but the terms of the New Covenant are moot, and vice versa. The terms of OC are in the 1st five books (Mosaic Law) and the Terms of the NC are in the NT. Thx in advance.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Hi Leroy, I think you're on the right track, although I wouldn't say the choice is between "two covenants." The Bible clearly teaches that the Old Covenant was broken by Israel (Jer. 31:31-34) and has come to an end (Heb 8:13). The choice the NT talks about is between "works of the law" and "faith." (Read Galatians 2 and 3) Blessings! Rob

[@kiruiandrew1]

On this one, Steve should be ready to allow comments so that we re-exame his teachings...

[@JacobWeaver2023]

Your first 12 mins is an personal attack so far. Let’s keep it about the word. Makes you more respectable. Much love good video. God bless

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

Jesus kept the Torah as did Paul , that means they kept or obeyed commandments that applied to them, Many commands are only for specific people like women, farmers, lepers etc , This claim we must keep every command comes from man not Scripture

[@elijahirvin5911]

Why would God get rid of a law that is perfect Psalms 19:7 it blows my mind how these guys teach that

[@caidtc4555]

Nobody is teaching that.

[@guokuiqiao7491]

Thank you so much for this. My church is heading over to the Torah keeping path, which I think is dangerous. Thank you for defending the truth.

[@JacobWeaver2023]

“And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12‬:‭17‬ ‭KJV

[@beckyfrechette4439]

The Torah observant crowd, def 119 Ministries will tell you that its impossible to know how to love God without the Torah instructions. They completely ignore the role of the Holy Spirit. Which is also obvious in their wearing of tzit tzit (tassels).

[@FormerTrucker]

1 John 4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. I'm glad I found your channel, so far we agree. 😊

[@jackslapp9073]

Yep. Going above and beyond in an attempt to impress God with your righteousness. Is it really noble? Or, is it pride? What does the story of the Pharisee and the Publican teach?

[@jasongoben2336]

Those who teach Hebrew Roots theology don’t like the label of Hebrew roots.

[@tbishop4961]

Depends on what kind of root he be brewing. Chicory coffee 🤮.. A&w rootbeer❤️

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

@@tbishop4961 At 40:11 So according to you we can live in sin the rest of our lives and still make it into Heaven ? Haven't you read 1 Corinthians 6:9-10? Galatians 5:19-21??? Paul teaches Obedience is necessary for Salvation.

[@tbishop4961]

@@Jeffmacaroni1542 was lead paint used in your household as gravy? You literally just fabricated an argument and applied it to me 🙄🦧🦧🦧

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

@@tbishop4961 The New C says the Torah will be written on our hearts not done away with, is the Torah written on your heart?

[@tbishop4961]

@@Jeffmacaroni1542 I'll take that as a "yes" and just assume you missed the short bus today

[@jamestom2510]

Im actually astounded how these HRM people align with SDA teachings. Absolutely flabergasted. They say Keeping torah (sabbath commands exc) keeps your salvation, in other words up until you are saved you have forgiveness but once you are saved you need to keep within the yellow lines otherwise you are rebellious and we know what god did with the rebellious at mt sinai....

[@MrsNuttyBar1]

God bless you Rob! I sincerely appreciate your approach as you contend for the faith and I've learned a lot since I found your channel earlier this year. When I see a new post, I can't click fast enough! Keep it up! 🙏🙏🙏

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thank you, Rachel! Blessings, Rob

[@leonaperdue8784]

Agreed

[@jaylar6442]

1:03:58 - No, not necessarily. Because the Scripture those new believers had was the Old Testament. There was no New Testament yet. The OT was what they were learning.

[@simplydanny]

I just want to offer a little respectful pushback on the issue of the Pharisees. The problem with them wasn’t Torah plus traditions, safe to say we all have traditions. Also their traditions were lawful according to Torah(Deuteronomy 17, 18) meaning sanctioned by God. There was no notion of scripture only in the first century so tradition and interpretative traditions was the norm. That being said you’re right that they elevated their traditions above Torah, but their traditions were sanctioned. Their rebuttal is going to be that their traditions has the penalty of death attached to it according to Deuteronomy 17, and that not all Torah commandments have the penalty of death, this is a slight of hand I believe. So I disagree that their traditions weren’t sanctioned by Torah because they will come back and say otherwise but the issue Jesus had with them, as one of my favorite theologian puts it “ they majored in the minors, and minored in the majors” they focused so much on the lesser laws and the details and neglected the weightier matters. Essentially Jesus came in the tradition of the prophets, who also criticized their generation for being scrupulous about sabbath keeping, and sacrifices while at the same time neglecting the poor, stranger, widows and orphans. Thus Jesus in more than one occasion responds to this injustice by stating “I desire mercy over sacrifice”. Another respectful pushback is going to be against the 39 classes of work, because breaking the sabbath has the penalty of death their needed to be an objective way to judge someone if you’re going to put them to death. There is no separation of church and state. The 39 categories come from work already detailed in Exodus for construction of the tabernacle. For someone who came out of HR, I can tell you this, everyone has their own rules as to what work is, there needs to be an objective way to define work. Could they have been more lenient about these classifications? Sure, but their traditions didn’t come through it if the blue. Any well read Orthodox Jew today will point to all 39 categories in the Bible. What I believe Jesus is coming against them is putting heavy burdens meaning all these fences which made it difficult for normal everyday Jews to keep because they didn’t have the same resources as a middle class Pharisee. Every time I read Jesus and Pharisee clashing is not much about the traditions but of injustice that they imposed by their lawful power.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Excellent input, Danny. Thank you! R.

[@shellyblanchard5788]

What it is we are no longer ceremonial unclean if we eat pork or anything that was unclean ceremonial levitical priesthood. They had to abstain from certain foods because it was a abomination to them to eat it God said. Since the priesthood has changed so has the law. God is more concern about how clean our soul is rather than what is eaten. Right there is nothing with the Torah, but it doesn't apply to us , because we no longer have to sacrifice like in the old covenant. We are under higher laws than the torah. Jesus said it has passed.

[@sharonlouise9759]

First, let me say that I love the way you and Dr. Jordan Peterson dress when you make a video. I personally love it and it says you respect those you're speaking to. I so greatly admire the work you do and I pray for you. Seems almost like Paul's day when responding to justification by faith in Jesus, "well I guess you can go out and sin then" and then the Judaizers telling the Gentiles they needed to practice circumcision and follow the Law. Having come out of a Christian cult I know that those who believe and practice these things will ultimately feel the weight of legalism and how they can never be good enough for God. This is why I pray for you....to continue on with your Christ-like heart contending for souls for whom Christ died. Blessings to you in 2023.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thank you so much, Sharon! May God bless you in the new year. Rob

[@jamsampadutan5257]

Mr Mourtria's response is very much what seventh-day adventist will tell you.

[@salpezzino7803]

I agree they are come from the Millerites, Satan can only recycle his lies

[@sundownsam3369]

Rob Solberg, I will continue to hear the video you post, but please answer the following question: What did Yeshua mean when he said, "He's the Lord of the Sabbath?" Being that you avoided responding to some of my previous questions, it is most likely you will avoid this one as well.

[@ericsmith7287]

I won't. You mean right after they were walking through the grain fields plucking grain, right? And then Jesus gives an example of where David and his men broke that "law," right? So he just throws some sort of Jewish comment out there that basically says, 'follow the Law the same way that I do,' right? Jesus is alluding to these little laws that the Pharisees came up with so that they didn't have to go through exile like they did before and suffer at the hands of the Seleucid Empire as they did before, just like Rob explained, so that they would keep the Torah without breaking it. Jesus is saying that the Torah's demand for the Sabbath, not the Noahide, ends in Him.

[@sundownsam3369]

@@ericsmith7287 Who is talking about the Noahide Law? Did I mention anything about them, or is that how you respond to give the impression that you are biblically educated? Nowhere does Yeshua say that David and his men broke the law, and though it was not lawful to eat of the showbread on the Sabbath day, the question that has to be asked is why the priest allowed David and his men to eat of it, and on what condition? Why don't you read 1 Samuel 21:1-6 carefully before posting what you have been taught? Apparently, there was a restricted clause that made an exception, not to mention that it did not affect the Sabbath day. You have not answered the question as to why Yeshua said, "The Son of man is Lord even of the Sabbath" (Matthew) and "also the Lord of the Sabbath" (Mark and Luke). So, I will tell you. He understood Exodus 20:10, that the 7th day is of the LORD God, and if he is of the essence of the one who brought him forth, he was able to say that the Son of man is even and also the Lord of the Sabbath. He also showed that he was the Lord of the Sabbath because it was on the Sabbath that he performed many healings. Now show me where Yeshua said that David broke the law? You have been engraved with the lie that the Sabbath day was abolished, and this was done by deliberately pulling verses out of context to teach what they wanted you to learn. In addition, don't you know that the Sabbath was removed because they wanted nothing to do with the Jews? This is something they won't tell you because they want you to believe their lies. So, should Gentile believers observe the Sabbath? If you say that you are of the commonwealth of Israel, then you can truthfully answer the question.

[@jolindaflanigan3729]

When you do not rest in Christ, you defile the sabbath. Not resting in the finished work of Christ, is actually a very big deal.

[@sundownsam3369]

​@@jolindaflanigan3729 Before you respond, read carefully what was posted. After you read it, you will be able to understand what Hebrews 4:4 is saying, "his rest", and whose rest is the Sabbath?

[@MandMe91]

Did Christ redeem you from the curse of the law that Paul is referring to in Galatians 3?

[@josueg88209]

Minute 5 you mention new covenant, you forgot to mention My law . It never said a new law ? You are just cherry picking brother .

[@SolidRockMachineShopInc]

Gal 3:2 This only I want to learn from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?- Gal 3:3 Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh?

[@G.H._bunny]

We do good works because, for believers, the Holy Spirit is in us and helps us to love God and love others so we want to good works. Not to keep or get salvation but because we are saved.

[@G.H._bunny]

The Bible says that good works are for our neighbors not us and one reason is that we show our neighbors we are saved by our works..

[@justindarnellfpv]

This is light and dark, truth and lies debating. The reason Steve was destroyed in his arguments is because truth is greater than lies. Love is greater than anything including self righteousness that stems from the Hebrew roots movement. I just pray that folks can view this with eyes to see what is truth and what is lies

[@TheRevelationDeception]

49:45 The law of Moses was NOT out of faith" G3.12; R10.5-6. The "law of righteousness" R9.31 = "self righteousness" R10.3-6; which Paul said "NOT having MY righteousness that out of law..." P3.9. The same "unblamable" of P3.6 is seen with the unblamable righteousness of Zachariah and Elizebeth Lk1.6, which was the same "law of righteousness" R9.31; 10:3-6; P3.9. Paul constantly compares "the law of rightousness" (self-righteousness), with the righteousness OUT OF GOD on account of faithing (in the law of faithing), which again, the law of Moses was NOT out of faith!

[@JVTRUTH]

I could be wrong but when it's said that "we keep our salvation by keeping the law" What I gather from that is that Jesus doesn't save us He didn't pay the price. He merely paid the deposit, made a down payment. And if we don't keep up the monthly payments then here comes the repo man to take it back. 🤔

[@rsdaarud]

That is the "everlasting gospel" of Adventism! Bulseye! There is only one gospel and one Jesus. Gal.1

[@JosephBoxmeyer]

Mr. Solberg, I only just discovered you. At approx. 47 min. Mr. Moutria says that we are KEPT saved by the fruit of our obedience. This is very similar to the error of John Piper who teaches "final justification". I am bothered that so many Bible teachers gymnastically attempt to excuse and explain away his heresy. I don't care whether Piper identifies himself as evangelical, he has departed from the gospel! They are willing to identify J.W. and R. C. trees by their soteriological fruit, but refuse to believe that Piper says what he says. I am sure that you are not lacking subjects, but the Piper subject might be good. Many many people like him but are not discerning.

[@JosephBoxmeyer]

Mr. Solberg, please address the You Tube teaching (Jesus' words only) which defines "faith" as meaning obedience. I fear that many will fall for this, as they do for Psalm 119 Ministries.

[@jaylar6442]

57:20 - You still haven't shown how Scripture supposedly teaches the Law isn't binding for Christians.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thanks, L4V! I would estimate that of all the HRM folks I've talked to, read, or watched, at least 95% would agree with the statement "Salvation does not come from keeping the law." But here's the thing: their theology does not always bear that out. For example, the popular HR teacher Steve Moutria from Torah Family says, "We don’t believe salvation comes through walking in obedience to the Torah." So Mr. Moutria agrees with that statement. But in the very next sentence, he says, "However, walking in obedience to the Torah keeps you in your salvation." So he teaches that salvation isn’t achieved by keeping the law of Moses, yet we’ll lose our salvation if we _don’t_ keep that law. Which means that the Saturday Sabbath, kosher food, the Torah feasts, and circumcision are all matters of salvation to Mr. Moutria. Because unless we keep them, we’re going to lose our salvation. And hopefully, you can see how that is not a biblical position at all. Here's a video where I explain that in greater detail: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jobOp55ph9uKp7s As to your question, it's worded a little funny so I'm not quite sure what you're driving at. I understand the first part of it: Do I think Jesus will celebrate Christmas when He returns? No, I doubt that. That would be kind of weird, like the birthday boy throwing his own birthday party. Do I think he will celebrate it? No. Do I think _Christians_ will in some way continue to commemorate the advent of their Savior on earth as a human being? That seems highly likely. As far as New Year's Day, that's not even a Christian holiday. R.

[@alexcaraballo3189]

I quit watching part 3 about 10 minutes in. Once he started butchering James' letter, which ironically disproves torahism, I couldn't finish. I understand now why he shuts comments off. God bless you and your ministry brother

[@miriamjones6987]

Matt 7 : 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Iniquity = Sinfulness/LAWLESS James 3:1 Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly. What LAWS will you be judged by? 😂

[@leonaperdue8784]

Thank you. That is really helpful. And I will share this teaching with those in my family who are willing to hear it as I contend for the faith also amongst those I love.

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

People have elevated the son ABOVE the Father and if the Son didn't specifically repeat a command its no longer for us., They follow deceivers and Not Scripture.

[@jeabluvburton5540]

I really appreciate and respect and amount of work that went into this video…but :):):) It’s interesting that at one point you made the comment that Steve was approaching his interpretations through “Torah first” and that it taints his ability to divide the word rightly - but I think you did something similar at the end of your video - you say that Torah does not apply because Yeshua never mentions it - but I think that’s for two reasons; 1. It’s implied in the culture and time He’s living in that He should not have to SAY that Torah still applies, so that’s not really a good argument and is ALSO dangerous, and 2. If none of it applied, then why were Yeshua and the disciples still doing things that were related to Torah? I think you and Steve should actually talk live - would probably clear up a lot of confusion and misunderstanding of “intent” in both of your comments. REALLY love the conversation and think it’s important!

[@JacobWeaver2023]

“And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12‬:‭17‬ ‭KJV