The Helldivers 2 Terminids Lore and Biology

[@CharliMorganMusic]

I find the idea of a bug that "thinks" incredibly offensive.

[@SCARFR3AK]

I'd like to know more!!

[@TT-DRop]

Some would even say, treasonous.

[@CyberLou]

Dotto

[@CyberLou]

Fick Ditto

[@CyberLou]

I mean damn Ditto

[@Imperious6929N.D]

Bro, the biles go from: That one fat kid at school who gets bullied to the 7 foot tall body builder at the gym

[@agent7official]

Bile titan glow up lmao

[@wolfuniversalbreaker8516]

The first time I saw the bile titan I freaked out and when it used its bile spew laser I screamed gojira

[@WildmanTrading]

​@@wolfuniversalbreaker8516Run! It's godzilla!

[@Skullguy-w7b]

😃😃😃

[@Darktheshadow-uv5cs]

@@WildmanTrading but due to international copyright laws, it’s not.

[@brodiddy877]

POV: I found an illegal broadcast Me: ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️

[@J.Severin]

500kg pure democracy

[@plotheplayer6462]

is that the terminal or the eagle

[@J.Severin]

@@plotheplayer6462 That is 500kg of democracy. So yes, its the Eagle. 😁

[@brodiddy877]

@@plotheplayer6462 🦅

[@musicwithj1759]

Wow a very unique original comment

[@nathanwood7525]

I really like this idea. Like Alot. Reminds me of how some ants have "majors" and "super Majors" or just how some ants have a warrior cast.

[@natesgamebox]

Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed the idea. It really seems like the devs did their bug research when they were making the terminids

[@Fordbonelab]

This seems like treason

[@bordigotto6603]

​@@natesgameboxsome ant hives even have ants with big flat heads made specifically to block the anthill entrances, reminds me of hive guards

[@Westwoodshadowgaming]

Agreed this made me think of ants too!

[@zwenkwiel816]

They all come from similar larve though and just fill one role their entire lives. They don't go from larve to worker to soldier or something.

[@llllTatollll]

By liberty the sheer amount of thought crimes in 12 minutes

[@bloodclover2664]

From what i remember from helldiver 1 lore, the bile titan is still considered a juvenile.

[@Plushleftyyyy]

erm *what.* a *juvenile?*

[@V1UltrakilI]

I’m afraid to see an adult Or the hive mind

[@the-dn3zw]

@@PlushleftyyyyBasically a teenager

[@Daytruin]

i'm guessing terminids will have a leviathan like starcraft 2 for the zerg and it's so massive it dwarfs even the largest Carriers and Battle cruisers like terrifyingly larger (at true scale , not ingame). imagine we have to fight a massive creature so large it takes up 1/6th of the entire map. I can't wait for the future of this game.

[@rush_17]

Yeah they are considered small on their home planets.

[@headazrd]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say they operate pretty much how a termite and ant colony does, which would explain the variations all being so similar to the next smallest in line, traceable all the way back to both scavengers.

[@unstableatom9922]

There are Bile warriors. They explode in green when shot

[@cringejoestar9791]

Yup, there's also leapers which are baby hunters

[@Apha-Apha]

@@cringejoestar9791Pouncers**

[@cringejoestar9791]

@@Apha-Apha you right

[@MisterCynic18]

I think it's a case of male and female versions of the same caste

[@nowaytoisop8776]

Bile warriors could be a midpoint between female scavengers and bile spewers. Pouncers are younger hunters. As for Nursing Spewers, could that be a alternate path for Bile Spewers that did not evolve into Bile Titans? Think about it, they would not need defensive armor if all they would do is stay deep within the bug nests to nurse hatchlings

[@jonathandomeraski7259]

Calling the ministry of truth. There will be a democracy officer at your residence momentarily. Spreading blasphemy will not be tolerated.

[@CharliMorganMusic]

This isn't what "evolution"means. You're talking about metamorphosis.

[@cornbread6556]

Metamorphosis is basically a type if evolution

[@Auvas_Damask]

​@@cornbread6556Evolution is change, adaptation. This is just getting bigger and older

[@Kolokommouna]

​@@cornbread6556not really, metamorphosis is a natural stage in a species' life span. Evolution is a change in an organism's genetics, changing how that lifespan plays out. Humans f.e. don't evolve from children to adults to elders

[@parks8814]

@@Auvas_Damaskpretty sure there’s some significant change when it between the likes of bile spewers to bile titans or warriors-hive guard-charger. I would say though that those changes would be more apt to be called metamorphosis I can imagine as a warrior got to the right age it would burry or cocoon itself and come out later as a hive guard and then once again into a charger

[@putthemoneyinthebag440]

🤓

[@matthewgerlach5775]

Bile Titans are considered small on their home planet

[@Slamander_Man]

*medium

[@matthewgerlach5775]

@@Slamander_Man nah dude not even medium, they are SMALL

[@creed1741]

ARE THEY GOING TO INTRODUCE EVEN BIGGER BUG TYPES?​@@matthewgerlach5775

[@mazda9588]

elaborate

[@solisruben296]

​@@mazda9588there's always a bigger bug

[@MrMarzh]

Its not a secret, there are hive lords hiding in plain sight. Fossils of them and in helldivers 1 it was a boss.

[@CrazyDutchguys]

Plot twist, they're not fossils, they're molts

[@CheeseMonger60]

@@CrazyDutchguyswell that’s not terrifying at all

[@mikehawk486]

There's also something to be said about the egg size. A scavenger sure as hell couldn't lay that.

[@Daytruin]

......but what if they can ( like out of necessity? because it's race all died), can it change it's sex at will to repopulate the terminids? now that is gender fluidity if i've ever seen it.

[@cinderpsycho1985]

Some species of Ants have several queens and therefore don't send out flyers to breed with others so bile titans acting as queens makes total sense

[@theunholyadventurer2376]

Aren't the terminids vastly different from the bugs from the first game due to genetic tampering/modifications done by Super Earth? As well as the whole bile line being a result of toxic chemical spills?

[@natesgamebox]

Oooooo I like that take!! Yes! The bugs were highly modified, but I hadn’t considered that the bile spewing traits could have come directly from either intentional modification, or accidental spills. I like the take!

[@theunholyadventurer2376]

@@natesgamebox Yeah its been actually stated by the devs from official accounts that the bile line came from toxic chemical spills

[@Fordbonelab]

We did nothing but farm the bugs, totally

[@Brainrot_Memer]

Orange - warrior - commander Orange - hive guard - charger Small - hunter - stalker Small - hunter - shrieker Green - bile spewer - bile Titian Green - bile spewer - nursing spewer

[@theneef174]

Scavenger > Warrior > Brood Commander Scavenger > Warrior > Nursing Spewer > Potentially Bile Spewer Scavenger > Hive Gaurd Scavenger > Warrrior > Charger > Behemoth Charger Spitter > Bile Warrior Spitter > Bile Spewer Spitter > Bile titan Pouncer > Hunter > Stalker Pouncer > Hunter > Shrieker

[@kylestanley7843]

​@@theneef174 I suspect nursing spewers are connected to scavengers rather than little spitters.

[@xeno3332]

@@theneef174 theres a bile version of the warrior and the bile spitter is the bile version of a nursing spewer. nursing spewer goes to orange

[@theneef174]

@@xeno3332 Ah, true, I'll edit.

[@ultbug03]

Isn’t stalkers human made dna modified hunter?

[@tyberiousTem]

I find the idea that the terminids are sentient incredibly undeomocratic

[@westonsimmons561]

So whos gonna tell him about the genetic experimention and how we aren't fighting first contact bugs at all or the bugs in the first game

[@isaacdayton4962]

aren’t they basically rabid animals now rather than sentient like they used to be

[@christinarieser2025]

What about hive lords?

[@The-Enemy-Medic]

@@isaacdayton4962 I think they are very much sentient but evolved into a hivemind and started mutating for war.

[@isaacdayton4962]

@@The-Enemy-Medic from my understanding they are basically so hostile to everything else that they wipe planets of almost all life. It’s why the Terminid super colony is such an issue.

[@westonsimmons561]

@christinarieser2025 we see the sheds of them and notice the seismic activity on bug worlds?

[@connormashburn8560]

I would say you’re close but just a bit off, I would say they are not based on sexes, but more like an ant colony having differing features based on job. Such as workers, warrior, repletes, and queen. Similarly there are 3 scout variants that I think start the lines off the green bile ones, the orange ones, and the mini hunter ones.

[@jeremym4451]

What about termites? I'm pretty sure some of them spit acid and have a termites have 50/50 I think

[@cringejoestar9791]

​@jeremym4451 potentially although there are also species of ants that do all sorts of stuff, be it shoot acid, chemically brainwash other ants or use a hardened forehead like a door. There's even one species that explodes when it's losing a fight/is overwhelmed and can't win.

[@jeremym4451]

@@cringejoestar9791 I know ants are quite insane but I'm throwing everything at it

[@cringejoestar9791]

@jeremym4451 entirely valid actually, from what can be gathered terminids also have a closed circulatory system and potentially also bones of some kind so they've got bits of various things scattered into them with a surface of insectoid

[@MisterCynic18]

​@@jeremym4451well they are called TERMInids. The TERMIte influence seems more likely than ants

[@internetuser320]

I like how the bugs offered hug and we just fucking killed them, genetically modifed them and harvested their corspe 😂😅

[@kyledabearsfan]

They offered only communism.

[@internetuser320]

@@Chunketymonketyz trason? *Truth*

[@Fordbonelab]

I’m calling a democracy officer

[@Daytruin]

@@internetuser320 it's both, treasonous truth, the most sinister of lies.

[@internetuser320]

You will never stop the truth

[@suruxstrawde8322]

I love the way this game makes fun of overzealous patriotism and humanities horrid psychological pitfalls. Polarizes the fans in a very useful way.

[@natesgamebox]

In 2024, and game that can generate buzz outside the game. Will probably do well. I’m here for it, helldivers has been great. Baldurs gate, lethal company. Great year for games so far

[@gabrielsanchez5553]

100% Even Palworld did super good by statements like "slave pokemon with guns" buzzing controversy outside the actual game.

[@dylanisntvibing]

@@natesgameboxThis game does community-wide roleplaying better than actual roleplaying games out there

[@Randomrobot-fs4du]

its not pure conjecture, we know that bile titans are technically "small" bugs

[@J.Severin]

we absolutly need bigger bugs for the higher dificultys. i mean u get bile titans as mission targets on difficulty 6 i think. we need somthing really big as mission target for difficulty 9.

[@Randomrobot-fs4du]

@@J.Severin im not kidding, thats their designation

[@J.Severin]

@@Randomrobot-fs4du me neither. 😁

[@Randomrobot-fs4du]

@@J.Severin yeah, i want a hive lord

[@ZeroDim]

​@@J.SeverinHive lords will start showing up of we progress into the Terminid Home sector

[@Strel-kov]

I felt the non spewing scavenger looks like tiny chargers

[@unwariestthreegames1151]

have you seen when they stamp their feet like one as well? now I don't want to sound like a bug sympathiser but its cute as shit they think their scary

[@harold_bryant]

@@unwariestthreegames1151 its like chihuahuas thinking they are the biggest dog ever

[@Cakeandnanna9091]

For all the people saying he forgot bugs. Not all the bugs have a single picture of just themselves and no background so its easier to just skip them than actually play and grap a screenshot and edit the background out

[@natesgamebox]

Now THAT is incredibly true. Thank you for bringing that up!! I was able to find good pics for most of the bugs. But I’m working on the automatons video next, mannnnn there is not many good pics around for some of them.

[@roomtempwater1]

I’m gonna be honest the bug life cycle theory was kinda obvious I figured it was just implied

[@unwariestthreegames1151]

same but I'm glad I wasn't the only one xD

[@MDestron2282]

Same. I'm just watching this kinda bewildered by people not seeing it. It's obvious.

[@cinnaren6223]

Bile Spewers and Bile Titans have forelegs, they're just much smaller. Chargers also have small claws folded up underneath them, next to their heads. All terminids have six legs.

[@FalkonNightsdale]

It's sort of reminiscent of how aliens worked in the game X-COM: Apocalypse

[@hiccup6129]

Imagine there's another species that hunts bile titans

[@Slamander_Man]

They‘re considered medium enemies in the code and the first game

[@jhorbirnlokrisson6528]

Most of the changes were done by exsperimentation and studies conducted by us. The Officers admit it on our ship; futher more what we have are different sub-species of bugs and that connects to how we have nursing spewers and Bile spewers

[@SP00KYM4NH3R3]

Personally, I don't think the Charger is an older Hive Guard, Guards look like they are at their end of the life cycle, like adults, but warriors either develop into a guard, or brood commander, and I think the reason Chargers look so different to most other bugs is because it's just a mutation that can occur. I don't think any other bug has a solid grey chitinous exoskeleton.

[@MisterCynic18]

Hive guards and brood commanders look so similar I've confused them in the field. I suspect they are directly related developmentally, with chargers being either a separate branch off of warriors or literally just overgrown scavengers that skipped the warrior stage altogether.

[@natesgamebox]

You bring up a great point here. I like that idea as well. My thought was just armor leads to more armor. But that’s true that nothing else looks like that. They could be kind of like the dachshunds of the space bug world. Just unique little guys

[@therandomcommenter6629]

Super earth did do genetic experimentation on the terminids during the 100 years of peace so the bugs we are fighting now are slightly different from the bugs that were fought in the past I believe we can safely assume that any developmental or genetic anomaly / discrepancy that simply wouldn't make sense in the life cycle is probably a example of that

[@bio-weaponn5576]

Imagine what Helldivers would be like if we could ride these things like horses.

[@Enonymous99]

ORANGE Scavenger - Nursing Spewer Hive Guard - Charger Pouncer - Shrieker Hunter - Stalker Warrior - Brood Commander GREEN Bile Spitter - Bile Warrior Bile Spewer - Bile Titan Hive Lords are father of all

[@will_para9ps456]

Well. There is a hive lord 👀 that could spawn bug breaches. So there’s your master hive mind

[@jamesbrooks2179]

"Hold the Scavenger. hold them gently like hamburger, squish them squish them all." Transcript from *The Super Earth Guide to Raising Terminids for Intelligent Super Earth Citizens*

[@Medkips]

Ants are a really good example of how a single species can have a large variety of genomes due to the diet or some form of influence when they are in the egg stage and I believe the terminids work off a similar system hence why we seem to have the three smaller bug variants of the ankle biters that then branch off into other sub species like some become stalkers while the other winged ones become shriekers. It's really cool the details they put into this game and I can't get enough of it.

[@raptorbrotherhood766]

I think the flyers might’ve evolved from the stalkers since the stalkers have those wings and are really light, fast, agile, and can jump high so maybe the flyers are their metamorphosis. Or maybe some hunters become stalkers and others metamorphosize into flyers.

[@natesgamebox]

100% agree! In my mind it’s kind of their final form to be able to fly and capture prey. Also I’m considering making an updated version of this video since some new bugs, like the flyers, have come out since I made it!

[@TheSpectregen]

Another thing, if you look at the Bile Titan's mission description, it mentions having to take them out so the bugs can stop expanding, something along those lines, so Bile Titans likely did lay the eggs but we have confirmation via mission description

[@TheHornedKing_27]

Based on the first game there are ancient bugs known as hive, tyrants, or something like that. I suspect they are the largest of the males and are the ones who are truly in charge of all of the hives. You can even see their skeletons or maybe exoskeletons around bug planets.

[@caomhanbasswood8611]

Hive Guards are actually based on Turtle Ants - a species of ants that have a head that's shaped to seal the entrance to the hive

[@demigod8522]

Having different factions of Terminids and them being hostile to each other would be actually a nice game feature.

[@therandomcommenter6629]

The life stages theory can also have a little more merit to it because there is also another caste of scavengers called 'pouncers" they look the same as the orange variety of scavengers no bile but their main differences being they have the pale white complexion of the hunter's the longer thinner and theoretically sharper legs / mandibles of the Hunter as well as the characteristic little Orange wings on their back however there is one bug that throws the whole Orange non-bile equals male green bile equals female and it is the nursing spewer a variant of the bile spewer I haven't done extensive research or anything but the only difference that is immediately noticeable is that their thorax is very much orange I believe their bile is also Orange the same orange that the eggs are they even have a weird texture which seems similar to the eggs combine that with the name "nursing spewer" and that suggests that they are the ones that are laying the eggs unless it is some form of male variant of the spewer specifically designed to simply protect the nest and perhaps feed the brood or something of that nature More study is required for confirmed conclusions there is also the outlying enigma of bile warriors perhaps instead of bile scavenger to bile spewer to bile Titan it goes bile scavenger to bile warrior to bile spewer and so on and so on

[@thejamesnamesbond6426]

The stalker has been said to be hunters genetically altered to see what could be made

[@CheeseyBreezey]

A lot of Eusocial bugs, (the hive species) don't really conform to male/female biology (or gender ideas) There's typically three-ish sexes, depending on development. The scavenger-guard-charger/scavenger-hunter-stalker could be Showing that sexual trimorphism seen in real world hive species. However, that does beg the question of where do the shreikers come into this?

[@therandomcommenter6629]

The shriekers are a mutation created from the termicide the bile line was specifically stated by the devs to be a result of chemical spills there was obviously a developmental cycle but it is heavily being influenced by outside genetic interference and experimentation

[@MonsieurWeevil]

Where the fuck did you get three-ish sexes from? It's two, just like in most other animals. Workers and the queen are female while drones (or kings in the termites' case) are male.

[@jplichta]

Both the bugs and the bots are far easier to root for than super earth lmao

[@natesgamebox]

I love how good of a job the devs did at making the game fun to play, but also very clear we aren’t exactly the good guys

[@Fordbonelab]

Treason

[@tovisinclair6135]

I'm reporting you

[@therandomcommenter6629]

How like what situation would I actively betray humanity like yeah I get it super Earth isn't exactly what us modern western folk would consider the perfect society but compared to getting eaten by bugs or literally slaughtered like cattle by the robots have you seen their bases all of the corpses they have in crates they literally have cages and altars and shit

[@olafgurke4699]

That sounds like treason to me.

[@QuadalupeThe3rd]

in the first game there was a bug called a hive lord, i cant think of any place to put it in the evolution. also, i think the bile and nursing spewers were selectively bred to produce more mineral 710. I wouldn't say that they evolved sepretly, i think thst they are like other hive insects, and that diffrent bugs serve diffrent purposes in the hive

[@shoopylol]

i think that it's like dogs, and cats, and other animals where instead of evolution, it's breeds, so it's still the same species, just different breeds and maturity

[@themainman2827]

All a good citizen need to know about the bugs is they bleed, thus, they can die.

[@DashingRogue1223]

You missed the pouncers->hunters evolution but I totally agree with orange scavengers evolving into either warriors or pouncers, depending on their infantry vs special forces designation.

[@mitchellbarton7915]

Grandson: Grandfather, tell me about how man and bugs got locked in war. Me: It's because I existed, the bugs saw, and they feared.

[@exmitter236]

you forgot that the hunters do have their own scavenger variants as well. im not so sure the terminids are really 'sentient' or intelligent but they do seem to create a sort of pseudo-hivemind with the way they communicate with each other, similar to how real life bug hives work.

[@cheesehead_man1375]

Reminds me of how ants often have different body plans for different jobs, while still being one species

[@fishplatinum6104]

remember that most of the termanids we fight are mutated by Super Earth not just regular evolved and adapted animals

[@FawnderShroom]

I haven't played helldivers 1 but I did hear there are way bigger ones that are more likely queens or rulers

[@arspsychologia4401]

Leafcutter ants will create little outposts around the trees to keep an eye on the forest and get a wider hunting ground. Sounds like stalker lairs to me.

[@Friendlyneighborhoodreaper]

The charger looks a lot like a huge scavenger to me. About as chunky, about the same shape, just with thicker armor

[@Pharry_]

im guessing the terminid diversity is akin to how eusocial insects back home on Super Earth have soldiers, workers, drones, Queens, etc. The Bugs have just a much higher diversity of variants.

[@deaconthe_hyena]

Capturing bugs? Us invading? BOY, if I didn't know any better I'd say this sounds like treason

[@MogeMoge-gu8rn]

The green scavengers, the bile spewers and the bile titan all have almost identical heads

[@lyonidus3073]

I thought it was common knowledge that the terminid types are just different stages of their life cycle..

[@haunter8o6]

There's also a scene in the trailer for HD2 where the helldiver pops the bile titan's head off with a rocket and all the surrounding bugs that were facing the titan were in utter horror. This is when I figured they might be one or species or group.

[@SuperSupper2]

When talking about eusocial insects, they tend to have ways of manipulating larvae to develop into specific forms like the door ant, or how bees feed royal jelly to produce a queen. Vying for positions like commander are foreign concepts to those in a eusocial system where function determines action. That said, even in species where their is conflict for role (such as gamergates like trapjaws), there is little change to overall structure.

[@sonofradar9745]

I got a overwolf ad in the corner with a Terminid on it lol

[@thomasseamenacetoysgamesan155]

The bile spewer can split off into a nursing spewer, also, the Stalker could become a screamer, the flying one

[@handlesarecringe957]

You're missing like 4 types of bugs, Grandpa!

[@mikehawk486]

The grandfather's b01 helmet has to be my favorite version of it.

[@GrimReaper9980]

Now question, what about the orange “nursing spewers” is that they’re called. It’s light armor where the green “bile spitter” is medium armor

[@remipoujoulat7759]

Basically Super Earth is the alternative timeline of Warhammer 40K if the imperium went in space wayyyy too early.

[@greenninja4656]

And here I thought that they are evolution of each other and that they have hivemind was a common knowledge, but the rest was very fascinating

[@the23rdradiotower41]

You know I bet all the bile could be used for breaking down the food that all the “oranges” bring back. Like digestive acid that could break food down to allow for the other more specialized terminids (who probably lack more complicated digestive systems) to consume and continue the hunt.

[@itsthelepto]

Im guessing the relation of the nursery spewer and the bile spewer is that the former forfeited armor since it probably prioritized nursing the baby bugs

[@Dino-Mite718]

I had already figured that they were grown versions of one another.

[@Game_And_Glitch3]

apologies however, i am calling my local truth officer, as bugs cannot think at all, expect local officers at your door

[@mastervule1844]

I think term you are searching for is "morphs" when talking about same species/different look thing in bugs :P Which is really cool idea for sentient bug specias, you would expect of it to have super complex morphology and social system

[@vegagoal31]

I’m contacting a Democracy Officer! This was outrageous!

[@elijahdrown4349]

The idea that chargers are evolved or older hive gaurds makes complete sense when you remember that charges will often hibernate underground in the center of a large nest and awaken when a threat is detected! I also wonder whether any understanding of the terminids biology can be drawn from earth bugs. Fun thought crimes to ponder about non the less!

[@benjamintan6750]

The small green spitter now does damage over time

[@r3dw0lf404]

one more thing... in the trailer u see a helldiver shooting a bile titans head of... this titan is sourroundet by warrioir bugs, seemingly interacting with them...

[@galenjones9529]

You're right. There is a bigger bug. It's called a hivelord, and it digs tunnels throughout a planet for the hive. They don't surface very often but can be forced to surface using tech.

[@justaguy6216]

You forgot to mention the pouncer, which seems to be a younger version of the hunter. And the nursing spewer, who seem to be a less toxic version of bile spewers.

[@TheDapperSaint]

I'm actually more inclined to believe they are different evolution strands based on certain goals for the nest with the bile spewers being a big one. It isn't ever explained what type of food terminids eat, but I've always theorized that they eat both organic and inorganic material as it would explain how they thrive of on plants they infest. It would also explain why scavengers are called exactly that as it would be an Alternative to the hunters as a good source of food. The big one for me though are the spewers and there corrosive bile that mostly like is able to break down materials for the hive.

[@being_of_draconic_descent]

when you think about it, each one being simply a different stage of life would make certain balancing decisions make much more sense. the chargers are lesser in number, and their armor on their heads more fragile because they've had less time. less big bugs are around, and more small ones are.

[@Fresh_yams]

Oh god the titan is a sex icon

[@natesgamebox]

Of all comments I expected to see when I turned my computer on today, this was never what I expected. Well done helldiver, you won the best comment. Here’s a medal! 🏅

[@HankTheMailman96]

This needs to be pinned immediately

[@sandran17]

'Oh no he's HOT!!!'

[@TheColombianSpartan]

So the Bile titan is a slay queen? Damn

[@TheMagnumDon]

funny thing I compared the Terminids to the Tyranids through how they're Arthropods with Dragon/Bat-like wings instead of Insect-like wings before I even thought about how close their names are

[@Panic_Pickle]

It is worth noting that the winged bugs are canonically a result of a failed pesticide, so possibly something that was in their evolutionary history that the pesticide triggered the latent genes for, akin to how you can chemically cause axolotls to grow into a relatively normal salamander despite their life cycle no longer naturally leading them to go through that change.

[@geraldtucker6952]

Winged scavengers become hunters, which then become stalkers Green scavengers become spewers then titans. Orange ones become warriors which either specialize into brood commanders (hence why some look like smaller brood commanders) or chargers, which then specialize into impalers

[@thatokperson]

Heracy! Terminate this illegal broadcast!

[@Fordbonelab]

I’m on it sir

[@TheChris2hill]

I like to call the green ones “mountain dew (insert class here)”

[@coldwarrior3794]

I’ve had the same thought, specifically about the bile line.

[@Ezdine_G8261]

Im pretty sure from what we know bile titans are actually considered "small" on their own planets

[@helpme9373]

In the lore the bile titan is considered tiny to the terminid species

[@norrecvizharan1177]

So basically, it all being lifecycles means that us helldivers are guilty of using flamethrowers on bug babies/children. Man, gotta love the smell of war crim- I mean roasted bug in the morning, amiright?

[@ryan1000011]

this man never ran into a broodlord during the 1st helldriver war did he

[@sonicx059]

I never noticed 710 was oil.

[@honorguard7616]

Some other funnies Expendable Anti Tank 17 aka EAT 17 or EAT IT GR-8 Recoiless Rifle aka great As said E-710' flips to 017E which is effectively Oil free or oils

[@kemonkemowski4918]

nice theory, although it seems to me that there are a few issues that have not been addressed, one of the most important of them is spores, it is not known whether the mushrooms with them are a separate species somehow cultivated by terminids or another weirder caste of them, personally I see a cool concept that spores are a factor mutating terminids and leading their evolution, and in addition spores are controlled by overlords or another type of smart terminids

[@parks8814]

The only flaw in your theory is that there is a difference between bile spewer and nursing spewers/ the male and female variety. There is a bile warrior so it would make sense that there are two races/types of scavengers that evolve differently going from orange scavenger-warrior-brood commander or hive guard and if it grew into a hive guard it would evolve to a charger and the green/bile scavengers go to bile warrior-bile spewer/nursing spewer depending on gender-bile titan. And then with the winged scavengers they could branch into either hunters or the flying guys and if they grew to hunters they would then grow into stalkers.

[@parks8814]

To clarify lines would go like this Scavenger-warrior-brood commander Scavenger-warrior-hive guard-charger Bile scavenger-bile warrior-bile spewer/nursing spewer-bile titan Pouncer-hunter-stalker Pouncer-hunter-shrieker

[@eclipseequinox1702]

You forgot about the 3rd vary small bug the pouncer. Which is the beginning stages of the stalker

[@scrink9117]

We know there are bigger bugs, there’s a post somewhere saying that bile titans are considered small. Also on some of the older planets, there are giant bone like structures

[@Balagnugnes]

I wish you showed more bug types like the normal scavenger and also the younger huntet varient known as the pouncer I do really like the male/female theory although whats the deal with the nursing spewer given its just a yellow bile spewer

[@Halvos12]

Was there ever a question of rather or not these were all the same species with a mix of sub species and different ages?

[@KT-pv3kl]

they are a single species just like ants of termites that have a great variety of specialized phenotypes for different tasks like warrnors , workers , drones , queens etc

[@Halvos12]

@@KT-pv3kl Was there ever a question of rather or not these were all the same species with a mix of sub species and different ages?

[@KT-pv3kl]

@@Halvos12 they arent sub species its all the exact same species and yes different bugs are juveniles of the larger variants.

[@caranguejo_italiano]

So we are the bad guys?

[@natesgamebox]

Wellllllllllllll. We aren’t exactly good

[@cheezyboy69]

@@natesgameboxtraitor

[@manic8995]

No that's treason, now face the wall

[@sharkguest223]

@@natesgameboxreporting to a democracy officer

[@cheezyboy69]

@@sharkguest223 good idea