The Helldivers 2 Iceberg Explained

[@j.u.8594]

Personal theory: another reason why Helldivers are frozen right after training is to make them go into combat while they are still highly motivated and vigorous from said training. The drill sargeant tells you that you are "literally invincible", hands you a heavy machine gun, and shows you how to use ship-to-ground artillery strikes. Who wouldn't be highly eager to kick some bugs and bots after that? By freezing the fresh Helldivers, they can maintain this blissfully unaware rookie excitement right up until they are deployed.

[@Saberfighterx]

That’s actually a really good point

[@BisexualPlagueDoctor]

Why don’t they just drop them all and give destroyer command to one of them? Once mission is done, all except the command goes back into the cryosleep

[@shiniselune399]

@@BisexualPlagueDoctor Maybe sending millions of young people to die in war is a way for super earth to control the population. Keep the strongest in the gene pool, eliminate those who consume resources for nothing... I mean you can die during the tutorial mission. in a militaristic society a guy who can't even complete basic training is a useless piece of meat!

[@bogustoast22none25]

Resource intensity and purpose. Every drop pod is apparently a whole year’s wage worth, secondly Helldivers are reckless and prone to friendly fire, the “1 HD per ship at a time” reduces friendly fire incident. Lastly extraction, you can only fit 4 or so per extraction ship. On the purpose front, Helldivers are guidance for the Super Destroyer’s weapons, think of them as the forward observer who tells the artillery where to aim.

[@Postie1994]

Since you can set your voice to "random" its downright horrifiying that a 4-player mission can go trough 24 people that run around shooting enemies, doing objectivs and team killing each other.

[@flemishbun]

Video has been reported to the Ministry of Truth for evaluation. For the glory of Super Earth!

[@NogrimStoneson]

Verdict is in, Yeeep... TREASON!

[@Tanksbeforetruck1738]

I second this response

[@The_whales]

“This piece of media is under investigation for treason”

[@The_whales]

“This piece of media is under investigation for treason”

[@dr.strangelove6118]

Third witness for testimony

[@ivanleo7564]

“You hear treason?” “I hear treason”

[@AvgJoeCrowe]

You hear treason? You should see your morale officer at once.

[@Annymausd]

*THE MINISTRY OF TRUTH IS REVIEWING THIS MESSAGE.*

[@Average_enjoyer_of_hk]

SILENCE THE TRAITOR

[@solardeathflame]

omg this comment 🤣

[@2JF24]

⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️

[@cvalerinv]

Helldivers are frozen because it's easier to not upkeep your troops indefinitely until you need to throw them into battle. just think about it within the context of the war. You have a galaxy spanning war that covers thousands of planets at any given time, with the possibility of tens of thousands more that could be invaded without notice. You need hundreds of millions of troops to cover such a vast warfront, so what better way to have your reserves in standby than by having them literally at the warfront awaiting to be deployed. So how do you upkeep so many troops? They all need beds, food, entertainment and other commodities, right? Just put them on stasis indefinitely until the very moment that you need them. You'd be saving an infinite amount of logistical resources by doing this and still have them ready to be deployed whenever needed. From the Helldiver's perspective, you finish all your training, you graduate and next thing you know you're about to be sent into battle. All that training, knowledge, and protocols are still fresh in your memory; after all, from your perspective, you just finished the final exam 5 minutes ago. You know exactly what to do, and when to do it. You didn't have to drill or train anything extra on your way to the front nor while you were on standby waiting for orders. You finish your training, walk into a fridge, get thawed out 100s of lightyears away, go through a small briefing on your objective, maybe grab a healthy nutrient bar on your way to the pod, and dive into battle. It's a genius strategy!

[@victuz]

This comment is endorsed by the Ministry of Truth.

[@marco2ol]

Genius

[@stormbirkmose9159]

sounds like treason

[@starsiegeRoks]

No no no, this man never said any of it was bad, he called it genius! Plus the ministry of truth endorsed it, so you calling it treason is treaaon.​@@stormbirkmose9159

[@mattstorm360]

To add to that you can keep them in service longer. Active service, your time outside the freezer, counts to your time in the service. Go into the freezer and so dose your count down to honorable discharge.

[@axodok]

This is what I imagine the "destroy illegal broadcast" missions get you to destroy

[@seanallard9335]

As entertaining as these conspiracy theories are, I will adhere to the wisdom of the experts of Super Earth.

[@GeekyDolphin46]

They are coming. Alot of them. Several were reduced to ash :[ rip to those helldivers

[@notaspy3751]

Remember, if you think you have encountered misinformation, report it immediately to your nearest democracy officer or call the Ministry of Truth.

[@bossssssist]

It’s all a simulation

[@babydovahkiin7297]

W

[@MaoMavo]

fact checkers have debunked this already

[@turtleguyfan]

the Helldivers being all different people who enlisted instead of being clones is my favorite bit because of the inherent humor and commentary that comes from a fresh recruit getting unfrozen after god knows how long and instantly being promoted to whatever rank the last Helldiver who died was and immediately taking control of their Destroyer as if nothing had happened

[@BisexualPlagueDoctor]

And magically being as skilled as them too

[@Illusory-Zay]

@@BisexualPlagueDoctorMight be they do something similar to the Tau in Wh40k they suffuse the memories and skills of each helldiver prior while discarding any “useless” aspects.

[@brood5184]

@@BisexualPlagueDoctor To be fair, they're as skilled as the average person playing helldivers. And the average person playing helldivers doesnt exactly scream 'tactical genius' lmao You have people running off to do their own thing, people who b-line to the objective, people who sabotage progress, and people who actually min-max the game. All makes sense when you consider the general populous getting recruited and immedietly dropped into action.

[@FezMooseLive]

​@@brood5184 Well, i do be doing other objectives while mates do other objectives. 😂we only have 40-14 mins 😂

[@AmraithNR]

@@brood5184 Running off to do your own thing is actually the smart way on higher difficulties. There's a cooldown for breaches and dropships. If the main crew triggered those, you're safe to solo side objectives with minimal resistance.

[@SubjectSigma77]

Fun fact regarding Cyberstan and Joel: so you can see playercounts on each planet, even Super Earth has a player count which is the devs doing stuff in the game. The other day Cyberstan was spotted with a single player on it. Joel is up to something there

[@dalekmasterblaster585]

I've always noticed this. Too much to spectulate. And not enough being done to prevent it. In this first war, we need to see what happens next.

[@SRHv2]

Nope, that's just inactive players. I've spawned multiple times on super earth before and its just inactive players

[@Ryn0_333]

​@@SRHv2😐

[@ugetsune]

@@SRHv2 You are correct about the Super Earth part, because that's the location you end up at if a mission gets aborted. I think either Super Earth or Mars are also the locations you are at once you finished the tutorial. The Cyberstan part is real though - we haven't been to that planet in HD2 yet, so there's no way for any normal players to be on that planet. It can only be the developers, or the game master in this instance.

[@andreapetribhhf8585]

​@@ugetsune Could It be a bug?

[@gelatinousturncoat]

Can't wait for the 4th faction to appear: Genetically engineered catgirls that overthrew a secret super earth research facility and created an advanced amazonian society.

[@aburntChicken_]

on LIBERTY

[@maxg4304]

Sweet democracy this is a battle we could not win

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

STAND STRONG MY FELLOW HELLDIVERS

[@DylanJo123]

Liberty give me strength. Led me not into temptation

[@nitesy381]

I tell ya, my faith in super earth will be very rock hard when that happens.

[@boba1mighty]

I cannot unhear the way your voice trails and the middle of each of your words is the loudest you pronounce them and the end of each word is there a little bit longer than they should be

[@ZebraSlinky]

its terrible, i couldnt watch beyond 2 min

[@SLG493]

Yup very off putting

[@rpnvg]

This. It’s annoying a fuck, I made it 5 minutes.

[@ChrisKChandler]

Ever watch "Food Wishes" with Chef John? Same damned thing. Can't hear what he's saying because I keep waiting for the pattern to repeat. Very difficult to follow.

[@YouAreMeWho]

same lol really annoying he should correct it if he wants more people to listen him

[@vineveer4358]

"Managed Democracy is the worst kind of government, except for all the other ones." -Super Churchill.

[@AC-hj9tv]

Based

[@infinament]

ngl, had the democracy officer in the first half

[@You_Ate_My_Soap]

Is my English broken or do I not understand the second half of the sentence. Like managed democracy is the worst form of government except for other countries?

[@vineveer4358]

@@You_Ate_My_Soap It's a popular summery of a quote by Winston Churchill on the subject of Democracy, except memed-up for Helldivers 2. "The other ones" refers to other forms of governance, such as Monarchy, Fascism, Socialism, Theocracy, Anarchy, etc. It's an admittance that a Democratic society is flawed, inefficient, and prone to problems, but compared to all other forms of governance it's still preferable and worth fighting for.

[@You_Ate_My_Soap]

@@vineveer4358 I get that but I straight up don’t understand the second half of the sentence combined with the first half.

[@emojothejojo]

Fun fact: every players destroyer has slightly different crew members. i have a democracy officer who has a eyepatch

[@Crazy_Broke_Asian]

My democracy officer, Anderson, also has an eyepatch! I was really confused when I went onto my buddie’s ship for the first time and his entire crew had different names and looked different

[@bruticus1496]

Looks like everyone is bald as well. Edit ty for the 48 likes, enjoy your day spreading MANAGED DEMOCRACY

[@PraetorPaktu]

Same, I was on a different ship and thought it was a bug that he didn’t have his eyepatch, but now I understand.

[@SchockerX69]

Ah yes the “Superman Disguise”🥸

[@r3gret2079]

No shit? Thay is so damn cool! I gotta pay attention to that next time I play.

[@penguinsrockrgr8yt216]

The automatons will sometimes insult the player in a heavily distorted English You can occasionally make out “human scum” amidst the gibberish

[@wrath-2187]

They also say "fuck you"

[@russrandolph]

I have heared them say "Die" and "dont kill me". They deffenitly talk in English. 🤨

[@dalekmasterblaster585]

In helldivers 1 I constantly hear the cyborgs yell "Helldiver Scum" Not sure if these automatons are saying that but it's pretty close.

[@FezMooseLive]

​@@dalekmasterblaster585 Automatons in greek lore were made by Hephestis and they were pretty much magic robots. My guess Cyborgs that Ran made them, or they made them, then sent th out to multiply before super earth took cyberstan.

[@levibull6063]

I thought I was hearing stuff when I was fighting them xD Anyone know if they scream or anything Anyone heard the Wilhelm scream

[@joshm3484]

710 is an old mechanic's joke. "Where do I put the oil in?" "Look for a cap that has 710 on it."

[@CannabisGarden]

I like the spooky music in the background. Makes me feel like I've stumbled into some massive conspiracy and the ministry of truth has me under surveillance 🔎

[@AC-hj9tv]

Nice

[@wchorski]

Zelda: Twilight Princess

[@FC3D]

When your mag is empty and your knife is broken or dull a shovel will always suffice

[@ShiningDarknes]

I wish they would give me a melee weapon.

[@quinnhasse9170]

1 butt of your rifle 2 press f

[@ShiningDarknes]

That is not a melee weapon. All bashes deal the same damage. The shovel "easter eggs" is nice and all but, ummm, how about actually give us one devs? They won't, they are cowards.@@quinnhasse9170

[@totallyahuman.2955]

I mean it's long, heavy, and very good for slaying wom... I mean the enemies of man.

[@Kellog888]

This sentence doesnnot make sense gramerically

[@peoplez129]

The lady on the ship explains the whole thing pretty much. The ships are powered by element 710, and they get that not from samples, but from the bugs themselves. They use bug goo to fuel the ships. So they're actually killing the bugs for interstellar drive fuel.

[@ShiningDarknes]

Yes, bugs are oil. Bots are commies.

[@carbongreen3498]

or so they say

[@worldscoolestperson7672]

Also 710 is just the word OIL upside down lol.

[@sebastiansparky1444]

​@@worldscoolestperson7672fucking funny and smart humor. Arrowhead is 5 stars

[@blockmonabluegmail3454]

​@@worldscoolestperson7672 Spread Democracy

[@godvana1017]

Funny thing is, in my friend group here in Germany we noticed the whole 710=Oil thing really quickly because there was a German TV skid in nineties with a guy walking into a workshop, pretending to know a lot about cars and wanting to buy a new 710er cap, which was just a the oil filler cap turned upside down

[@NapalmStrike802]

Funniest German joke:

[@AC-hj9tv]

Isn't it Öl in German

[@therealsourc3]

@@AC-hj9tv yeah, but cars aren't produced with local text on the maintenance covers..

[@GRrekluse]

Dude, I appreciate the section titles you keep at the bottom left, make it so easy to go back where I was last at in between working 💀

[@Loggerten]

The clone theory drives me crazy. You don't need to recruit clones....

[@Cryptorabbi69]

I think the clone theory makes sense, they dont want to risk a clone uprising , but want to use the technology, so they sort of mix two elements and just use recruit’s as templates, the clones themselves are expendable while the original body stays frozen on the ship, the original’s consciousness is transferred between all the clones when the clone bodies die

[@Loggerten]

@Cryptorabbi69 nah, at the end of the training mission, you go into a pod to be frozen next to a ton of other already frozen divers.

[@antoniochalking]

I could care less, I’m just mad how he didn’t mention ODSTs as they may not be the first hell jumpers they were the best and must of had some kind of inspiration

[@legion4te]

13:03 the hole/chip in the back of the helmet is probably a tracker because when you go out of the mission area, you get a very generous 10 seconds to go back to the mission area before you get orbital strikes called on you- with no beacons. How do i know this? Well, a traitorous squadmate of mine tried to bail!

[@infectedpotato117]

once i got blasted by those ground spores because an automaton shot it, launching me out of the map, only for me to get back up and get blasted again by more spores, launching me even further from the map. let's just say i didn't make it out cuz i was deemed a traitor

[@michaelcorrea4336]

On purposely left the mission area once to drag a bile titan and etc to die with me.

[@reaperraider999]

@@infectedpotato117 That's what they all say... TRAITOR!

[@StackerNoobUK]

My first bile titan kill came from an act of treachery on my part. I accidently ran too far out the map and then got slowed by a plant. I didnt make it back in time and the bombardment started, but I just kept running around the titan and the ordinance meant for me ended up killing it instead...then it got me too.

[@angwydud]

i wouldnt say its a tracker for sure since it could be anywhere else on the suit but i guess it would make sense if the ingame ui tracks people from the head position (not sure if it does)

[@DMFTexTex]

Helldivers are definitely not clones. The ship module updates say that your family has to pay for you to have more ammo in the field for stratagem weapons.

[@ShiningDarknes]

I believe the helldivers in cryo are linked into a neurological network that allows them to experience whatever the current ship commander is doing. This is why they are all the same rank, this is why you only get 20 per mission, 5 per member of the strike team, (that is the number hooked up and ready to assume command) this is why it takes so long to get one more reinforcement after depleting your stock of 20 (they have to manually upload the combat data to another soldier)

[@nunull6427]

Most, if not all the helmets, have a port in the back of the head, at the base, similar to the matrix ports imo

[@ShiningDarknes]

yes, though I was going for a more altered carbon vibe. @@nunull6427

[@AHHHHHHHH21]

​@@nunull6427he covered that

[@crocidile90]

That and why the naming scheme is (while a bit creative) limiting because if you have no set list of names, it would be hard to find similar names in which could be a base for the neuro link to use.

[@ericwally6827]

This is the best way to tell a story. You let the players try and figure it out.

[@alcapoontangmooseinthepoos2310]

we’re going to the re-education camp with this one 🔥

[@BisexualPlagueDoctor]

I love how this game is just a mashup of literally every sci-fi

[@DimitriFilichkin]

A bit of a correction: The "transport bugs" was only in the CGI animated series Roughnecks. In the book, the Psudoarachnids (All the film adaptations drop the "Psudo" prefix from the name) build starships using advanced industry, and honeycomb their planets with subterranean highways, factories, and advanced infrastructure. Their warrior caste are always armed with a set of high energy beam lasers capable of melting through tank armor with just a few seconds of exposure while being covered in cybernetically implanted alloy armor that protects from most small-arms calibers, and they have a space-navy of FTL capable warships that is on par with the Federation's own technology. At no point in the book does anyone even try to imply the bugs are dumb, actually emphasizing the point that the animalistic, bestial behavior of individual bugs is a quality of their hive-mind intelligence, allowing them to "spend warriors like we spend bullets" and should not ever be allowed to fool you into underestimating their capacity for strategic thinking and tactical brilliance, engaging in flaking maneuvers, deploying decoys, and launching feint attacks using waves of disguised Worker castes posing as warriors to distract and pull away defending troops. To quote the book, "Animals don't build starships." and the Federation expends massive resources and intelligence efforts just trying to develop an understanding of their psychology sufficient to open communication with them to negotiate a peaceful end to the war. The bugs never answer any of these efforts, however, with only very limited success by gathering intel through a 3rd party of methane breathing semi-humanoid aliens who manage to maintain limited communications with the bugs, which is where the bulk of the Federation's intel on the psudoarachnid psychology and culture comes from, including the intel on the "brain bug" caste that function as command and control centers for the hive mind.

[@natiscool]

Thanks for this correction! Good explanation and great learning! :)

[@Sorain1]

Yup. The film series should have been it's own stand alone title, so we could get an actual adaptation.

[@blam320]

@@Sorain1Apparently the original books weren’t satire of fascism at all, and we were supposed to actually, genuinely like the hyper-militarized society depicted.

[@MadmansPlayland]

​@@blam320 Yep, Heinlein (the author) had a hard on for the military, and wrote the book in a "the world would be better this way" type of spiel. I can't remember exactly, but he wrote it in 1959 as a reply to some idea he wasn't fond of at the time, I believe it was some anti-war sentiments? Or anti-military, I can't recall.

[@Mike-zx7lq]

@@MadmansPlayland @blam320 Heinlein actually had a trilogy of unconventional, avant-garde societies in some of his best known novels. In Starship Troopers, he paints a picture of a "successful" fascist society, in the original definition (see Mussolini's "What is Fascism", 1932). Stranger in a Strange land takes a wild turn into a hippie story about peace, free love, and space communism (and other fantastic powers) made possible by learning the language of an advanced and very alien species. Finally, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress sharply contrasts with both of the others and presents a rebellious moon with a naturally libertarian society (but not consciously so) plotting and fighting for its independence from Earth, with the most powerful protagonist advancing the ideals of anarchism. All 3 of them are worth a read. The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is the best ;)

[@purpleblah2]

Speaking out of character, it's ironic because all the "threats" that face Super-Earth are just blowback from their own actions. They oppressed the Cyborg separatists, who took up arms, and after losing, creating the Automatons, who are an even greater self-replicating threat with no sense of humanity left. They selectively bred the Terminids to be stronger and more aggressive (also probably mutated them if leaks are to be believed). Super-Earth also drove out the Illuminate, who originally came in peace, and will probably come back angrier with better weapons.

[@bastienbassalettibeaule7618]

AND THEY WILL BE CRUSHED BY THE HUMAN MIGHT

[@lamelime1]

This comment is under investigation for treason.

[@sevenclovers7]

That’s part of the irony of fascism The extra power the government gets is severely corrupt by nature, which leads to incompetence. To help hide that and keep the system running there ALWAYS needs to be a enemy, and often the system makes them both on purpose and accident. It’s only mentioned by crewmates, but some bugs showed up on rebel worlds. Perfectly reasonable to assume Super Earth did it to remove a potential threat, and make more 3-710 (which comes from bugs). And bugs are far more dangerous than the rebels ever were, especially after the termicide backfired. Love how the devs kept that part of the joke, and in a more interesting way than starship troopers.

[@LuckyBull]

Esteemed Democracy Officer, as a proud citizen of Super Earth, I cannot idly stand by while our nation's honor is threatened by treachery! I bring to your attention an individual accused of the gravest crime against our beloved homeland. I implore you to swiftly address this matter with the utmost vigilance and patriotism. Super Earth must remain strong and united against all who dare to betray our noble cause!

[@luisbo3]

This person right here Democracy Officer

[@pickles9878]

ahahaha, these are really funny man, i can tell you put a lot of time in these stories man. i know the ministry of truth would not lie to us though, good stories! you should become a movie writer one day, cheers!

[@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind]

Nice touch with the Cyberpunk theme when it comes to body augmentation and modification.

[@TouhouFan]

I have a slight worry about how the galactic map is made... In Helldiver 1, the factions got perfect space for each one, but in the second game, there is actually space for a 4th one...

[@Bokmoh]

You're right....

[@D3adCl0wn]

The 3 factions are similar to Starcraft factions. Having a fourth is indeed intriguing. But which trope would it be? A mirror faction of humans would be terrifying, being able to call in stratagems and the like.

[@sidshek184]

Zombified versions of all the dead helldivers and staff on each planet could be pretty cool.

[@michaelcorrea4336]

​@@D3adCl0wn Rebellious Helldivers but Heavenly Ascended.

[@kayvee8905]

Wouldn’t they be the illuminate and the cyborgs

[@Grayeques]

My guess is that the bugs were used to wipe out a rebellion, with helldivers and termicide then used to quell the bug infestation. With the termicide inevitably failing, this is when super earth loses control of the situation.

[@vitaliyred622]

As a Warhammer fan, Super Earth is light and rather chill. The bots burning people in cages, decapitating people and impaling the corpses while screaming "give me your skull". How can anyone even say the Automatons are the good guys?

[@declicitous1763]

There are no good guys in Helldivers, only the most militarily powerful side

[@commanderwookiecopc806]

As a Warhammer fan since 7th I can say that Warhammer 40k is overrated.

[@jstar3382]

​@@declicitous1763eh I mean the only possibly good side is illuminate, and even in HD1 it was a defense against them. No one is native to the planets we go on, everyone is a destructive force colonizing planets

[@itsumayo]

Im a Krieg fan. So the blatant disregard for self preservation and recklessly charging into battle aspects are what got me in

[@TheNorthHawk]

I'm wondering if the automatons are creations of super earth as a sort of false flag. Make them as cartoonishly evil as possible. Perfect propaganda.

[@caydoncargill3989]

I remember my first time playing the game and coming across a forklift, seeing the “E to interact” button and thinking “oh my god you can drive the forklifts” only to be disappointed by just a text box

[@TheDutchFoxx]

The music choice for this video is spot on. Vigil for the ME reference and Water Temple theme for introducing the Illuminate, who are aquatic aliens

[@Illusory-Zay]

My personal explanation as to why the unfrozen helldivers are the same rank and grow with our skill in the game is that the frozen helldivers are more or less body swaps. They are frozen, augmented with neurochips that transpose the memories of prior helldivers into a new vessel that can command and be as effective as the prior. Also probably cheaper than cloning and allows for growth if one of them learns or does something unique and effective.

[@jmicjm]

There are no perks that level up with the diver, just improved bonuses from the super destroyer. When one helldiver dies, a new one inherits the ship along with all its bonuses. Wouldn't be very democratic to throw them away.

[@aaroncarter4019]

​@@jmicjmThis is the canonical answer if you read the legal contract. Upon death, anything the Helldiver owned is considered property of the destroyer they came from and is given to the next helldiver unfrozen.

[@TylerWardhaha]

Nothing about the hell divers change, just the equipment. Hence no need for any nerochips just a new body.

[@XxMomoBallxX]

My theory: The automatons are the "children" of the cyborgs, who before being conquered created them with one mission: "Annihilate Humanity". They use human brains and possibly organs to create robots under their programming. They are programmed to spread and destroy all humans, but sometimes can "glitch" and have human tendencies, which explains strange behavior. The Terminids of course are just bugs who were domesticated and harvested, then after heavy forced evolution, turned on the humans and began to spread through spores. One of the NPCs on the ship said something along the lines of "We'll defeat the Terminids and send them back to the farms where they belong... With better protection this time" (not word for word, I can't really remember on the spot.

[@darkendwarrior]

you got the first part right. but yes thats the line

[@XxMomoBallxX]

@@darkendwarrior Yeah, that part I feel as of right now is more or less confirmed given the major order to take over Troost and figure out what the "Reclamation" is. The rest was more or less just strung together based off what was said in the video.

[@DoctorSolocus]

I feel like they use human brains as storage and RAM like in those sci-fi movies lol

[@wxlde4388]

[Redacted] Review under investigation for Treason.

[@AC-hj9tv]

Very original

[@clutchbleach2057]

I just realized the Npc in helldivers is the same voice actor as Tyreen from Borderlands 3. Phenomenal video btw got this game a few days ago I'm hooked.

[@anonimus370]

in support of Helldivers having memories uploaded into them: if the training we witness is the extend of what they go through or even if it's the final test, there is no way that would result in an effective soldier. So maybe the collective memories/experience/training of other soldiers is uploaded into them, with or without erasing their past personality. And as we as a player get better, so do our soldiers, and you could even say us watching guides is The battle experience of other Helldivers being uploaded into us.

[@IVANGUARDI]

Joel and the writing team watching all these conspiracy theories with popcorn in hand 😂

[@lanewilliams4473]

25:26 this is lava. it’s stated that helldivers need to watch out for lava in one of the tooltips you see when loading into a level.

[@jimbothegymbro7086]

I always thought that warning was for a future level where we'd see liquid lava in the place of water

[@Malacha1]

They didn't teach me that lava exploded but if it's in the training manual it must be true!

[@KnightNave]

id reckon that the lava causes the rock to offgas whatever explosive chemicals+oxygen from the rock needed to make that explosion

[@KnightNave]

or that the grenades go deep enough into the lava that it amplifies the explosion massively. IRL example is how many Anti ship missiles explode underwater to benifit from a massive increase in how concussive the blast is

[@Gurtington]

Thats just what super earth want you to believe

[@eldonte7775]

"The organs are for the Cyborgs, Automaton goals are to recapture Cyberstan, you must push North" -gunshot- "quickly cut this transmission. "

[@bsquared9]

Just want to say I love your music selection. And great video of course 👍

[@darkzeke200x]

A Democracy Officer is rapidly approaching your location. Thanks for the video, wonderfully put together!

[@notsostealthmission5184]

I like to think that the Automatons were made by a smaller group of Cyborgs who escaped into exile, and began to mass-produce Automatons so they could get revenge. I think the human brain thing is impossible, since Automatons seem to be produced very quickly, they even have those Fabricators.

[@streetrider1001]

Yeah I agree with your theory. the human brain theory would work for cyborgs since they are literally half robot/ human, but like you said these are just machines likely programmed to be the exact opposite of super earth's culture which also explains why they say they've obliterated inequality, that would be easy to do when every one of those robots are programmed for the same thing which is to kill all humans.

[@notsostealthmission5184]

Yeah and they are mass-produced too much. Who knows, maybe Commissars have old human brains? Since they're like the commanders, but I doubt it.@@streetrider1001

[@Deadman-hl9wr]

Ima report this to the ministry of truth it’s illegal to to try and find the origin of the automatons

[@infectedpotato117]

i imagine that they are taking organs and brains for their cyborg parents for when they free them (which they won't)

[@TheMasterChief101234]

@@Deadman-hl9wrtake a break from the cringe and let people have a discussion

[@TheRussianForeginAgent]

Aliens: *have some sort of super-duper weapons that can destroy alot of things at once* Super Earth: YEAH IM PRETTY SURE ITS GOOD IDEA TO ATACK THEM.

[@Nerdnumberone]

Super Earth: "I want some of those things!"

[@emetanti]

"Give us your WMDs!" Illuminates come back 100 years later to bomb Super Earth to Kingdom Come. "NO, NOT LIKE THAT!"

[@SwitheKun]

>shoots a guy "AHHHH" "what strange secret message is this...?"

[@KaleMower]

Aroowheadheadheadhead

[@Nathan46000]

Honestly the fact that an iceberg like this exists is what makes a game so great, the fact that everything on the iceberg is a possibility in hell divers leaves every player guessing at what they might find behind the scenes and or what the next step for the game is

[@violentlylazy]

“Be careful who you share this with” I’ll be showing my democracy officer immeadiately

[@matthewhughes5759]

The speech pattern on this narration makes me feel like I'm spinning around in circles.......

[@lars4422]

Finally I found a comment phrasing my thought listening to this. This guy is saying every sentence exactly the same "myseriously." Closing with every word on each sentence on the same "mysterious" tone rolling out the last few letterssssss. Ive never heard someone speak like this. My head is spinning, im out.

[@matthewhughes5759]

@@lars4422 I made it to 8:47 and have to give up

[@thebigcajonezz]

Yeah I wanted to comment basically the same thing but with some constructive criticism, as I think the video content and direction is great, just the narration/speech audio quality can be improved. - speak clearly into the mic and try not to drift in and drift out of sentences. - does sound mixing play a part in the soft beginning and ending of the sentences? - make sure voice is much higher than background audio.

[@kingcallous819]

Interesting video, but his cadence is cooking me.

[@bobbyathineos]

The narration style is so annoying

[@Three_Dog_Gaming]

Your choice of background music for this is fantastic!

[@mr.berserk8339]

As a democracy evaluator I recommend watching the first 36 seconds of the video and than immediately shutting it off

[@Talonzor]

I really like that you credit people on their findings :)! good vid too

[@D4ng404]

We’ve all been attack by Berserkers. If you listen, you can hear them cry out like they’re in pain, seemingly forced to attack fellow Super Earth Helldivers…

[@niaauer6518]

Reporting this Video to the Ministry of Truth

[@CrazyCrab431]

Well said, for super earth!

[@hexisarbiter2129]

I salute you solider! OUR LIVES FOR SUPER EARTH!

[@evanceaicovschi7230]

KZbin asked me to rate your comment..

[@t-rex9809]

I'm [redacted] and this is my favorite comment on KZbin

[@dydeen3035]

“Do I think Super Earth belongs in Malevolent Creek? Umm idk I belong in Malevolent Creek, I’ll tell you that”

[@notsoanonymousmemes9455]

Automatons may be digitalized people, as they can be heard saying also "they gave us new life", so maybe they are in a way akin to Necrons, fully mechanical with the mind of a person within.

[@ninjagrimlock1718]

Or Servitors....or Servo Skulls....

[@BjornvirEldrusson]

The music choices throughout this are wild. Recontextualizing a few in a major way but still sounding perfectly fitting, and matching every beat.

[@joshuapurdy7065]

Based song choice 14:14 recognized it immediately

[@Romir0s]

With all due respect, freezing is the most common trope of FTL travel. Don't put too much into it, you are freezed to make a jump and you are unfreezed after the jump. Just like in Alien, HALO, etc.

[@AC-hj9tv]

Then you don't have to worry about pooping or peeing on a long trip

[@snark894]

Submitting this link to my Democracy Officer. Expect a visit soon.

[@zedmedina8591]

Very original

[@GameMaster_1009]

​@@zedmedina8591 Very Treason

[@RipRLeeErmey]

​@@zedmedina8591 Look, the Ministry of Truth doesn't approve very many jokes, give us some slack.

[@karal_the_crazy]

@@RipRLeeErmeythis is a lie the ministry of truth approves plenty of jokes I will be alerting my democracy officer of your discontent expect a visit

[@Nswa87PATAPON]

I'am suprised about not mentioning terminid corpses on tien kwan. There were a lot of them during fight for mechs. It was very peculiar

[@Spino-hx2mr]

How many of them were?

[@leonardiwidodo]

Your intonation totally reminds me of the guy from the Food Wishes channel, lol. Great video, thank you!

[@rjjm88]

One of the theories regarding Helldivers being clones I saw that I REALLY like is that all Helldivers are a unique individual. The training is just a basic aptitude test before they're packaged up and sent to a super destroyer. The super destroyer IS the Helldiver, uploaded into one of the frozen individuals to puppet them. That's why you have the same rank, same resources, and get better - you learn from your own mistakes because you are the ship, not the person.

[@Elite02k]

"Its up to the helldivers, an elite squad of soldiers" The helldivers: *consistently shoots their other squad mates for whispering anything other than democracy*

[@creepercommande4171]

As an elite helldiver does

[@harbl99]

Yes, just as _Paranoia_ taught us.

[@AC-hj9tv]

Well yea

[@Someone74735]

Think of it from the enemies perspective. 1-4 strange guys drop in and throw a bunch of ordinance around. You kill them at the cost of 10s or even 100s of lives. Then 1-4 guys drop in...

[@floriansteininger347]

​@@Someone74735 In-universe the Helldivers are elite, I think.

[@galgolombek7223]

This guys cadence is the weirdest I've ever heared

[@Ethan-ki9zc]

literally had to turn off the video audio and CC on because of it

[@TheJohnharple]

💯

[@herooftheday77]

Ha! And I was thinking I’m the only one feeling like this :)) yeah…. It’s some sort of over acting I guess ;) funny interesting video anyway. PS. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s an AI voice on some strange settings :)

[@CASSIUSATBESTWV]

Let’s get that oil…FOR LIBERTY

[@alheimianservant1499]

Commit Capitalism so Lady Liberty can drink her Ebony Nectar!

[@brandonjew1397]

FOR FREEDOM🦅🦅🦅

[@BigThangs]

Freedom fuel

[@alheimianservant1499]

Lady Liberty needs her Ebony Nectar, so get going!

[@Shane2020xxx]

O_peration I_raqi L_iberation was the original designation for that war, until it was deemed a little too on the nose and changed.

[@coilovercat]

Helldivers has the award of being the only game which I have paid for in-game currency for. Hats off to the devs.

[@coven14]

This is my favorite Illegal Broadcast on the Citadel

[@zoron334]

Did play the video in 1.25 speed as natiscool drags the lines so much it wants me sleep XD

[@morriganmurphy7183]

Oh my GOD I didn't know you could change playback speed THANK YOU

[@jstar3382]

8:18 based on some dialogue, it's through spores. They send millions out into empty space, and just a few landing on a planet is enough to start an entire infestation. They dig down, and breed

[@carbongreen3498]

space is far too big for non ftl travel to be done at the speed the terminids travel

[@BisexualPlagueDoctor]

@@carbongreen3498the terminids are literally made of FTL juice

[@carbongreen3498]

@@BisexualPlagueDoctorYes, meaning it's very unlikely they're using a non-ftl method of travel

[@SPAMLiberationArmy]

I mean, sure, if you trust the dialog.

[@AC-hj9tv]

​@@BisexualPlagueDoctorbro is a well-respected terminid expert. Can confirm

[@proxymohawk2933]

Reported to my local democracy officer for dissident behavior

[@Grass_77]

We uh... need an update to the last part of this, considering we now know the effects of the termicide.

[@michaelharder3055]

Me, hearing the words "Malevolent Creek." (Sitting under a cold shower holding my legs bawling like a baby) "Please No, No, NOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

[@LoboPal]

Goddamn this was suggested to me quickly, front page, it said uploaded 16sec ago lmao

[@natiscool]

Wow, you were quick! Hope you enjoyed :)

[@LoboPal]

Haven't finished yet, got distracted early on T.T@@natiscool

[@alexbreger4933]

There is a tip that the automatons will shoot less accurately if being shot because they are programmed that way or... Maybe their human brain is just afraid to die?

[@BisexualPlagueDoctor]

What? No, it’s because they work off of sensory data just like everything else, and suppressive fire causes severe disruption. They are just as brave as helldivers, but with shittier aim (which doesn’t make much sense but they do fight like three seconds after being built so eh) and a severe lack of air support outside of bot drops

[@saltycierra6371]

Dude, the ambience in this video is insane btw. Mass Effect, Twilight Princess, well done man

[@GenuineLolotov]

"Oil is one of the most scare and valuable resources across the galaxy." Dyson Sphere Program players: "First time?"

[@noneayourbusiness5149]

Question on the Freezing of the Helldivers. I get needing to freeze them for interstellar travel - no need for food, water, bathrooms, etc. But why are you frozen when you travel between two ships right next to one another? If you join up with a group and leave that group to return to your own ship, you get the same unfreezing cutscene. Why would you need cryogenic freezing just to be moved back to your own ship?

[@Heidao623]

Here's a thought, contractually, every person on freeze in the ship inherits the equipment and rank. But how do they know how to use the equipment, if they're all fresh recruits sleeping and had no prior clearance to use as practice? My theory is that, while we got the FTL engine from the Illuminate, and got the 710 from the Terminids, we probably stole tech from the cyborgs. Most likely, brain to tech interface technology, and it might be a shared memory or gestalt system for us and every sleeper to take over. Think of it, we're aware of our deaths but a new and waiting Helldiver is woken and tactically aware of the present situation just as they drop in. That was us/we leaving the dying connection of the old body and focusing on the new one dropping in

[@darkendwarrior]

hmmmm.

[@ir0ny-]

This might just be the best helldivers 2 video I’ve seen yet

[@AbsolutionArmament]

"Shipmaster gives MOTIVATION to helldivers." *Me and the boys getting back from a mission that we should have not lived through.* *Shipmaster makes the most outrageous comment instantly sparking the urge to airlock her*

[@AC-hj9tv]

"that was definitely one of the missions of all time"

[@bachtruongson9408]

Yup, they did reclaim Cyberstan, not in the way we thought though...

[@watto12]

this video has been filed for treason against super earth

[@randomencounter9359]

I wonder if the illuminate AI just jumped ship and took over human society.

[@BisexualPlagueDoctor]

The (Super Earth) AI was made in the 21st century in lore so probably not

[@HarlockG]

This is PURE GOLD. Congratulations and thank you.

[@Ocylix]

here he is Democracy Officer!

[@Jazzy-kz6wd]

i can't even get 7 minutes in without the overriding desire to play, i'll see you after i spread some more democracy

[@KickstandOptional]

Good stuff here, but I'm not sold on the brain harvest theory. Why stitch that head back together after removing the brain if you're gonna leave the rest of the body dismembered?

[@fireblast133]

i see a shovel, my first instinct is not 'when get i meme as death korps'. My first thought is 'When do I get to rocket jump and cry out 'SCREAMING EAGLES!' as I bash a giant bug in the face with it midair'

[@valx7586]

I like the clone theory because it solves a slight problem in the fact that you need to be screened and permitted to have kids yet the helldivers are actively losing tens of millions

[@infectedpotato117]

keep in mind this is a heavily militarized society with billions of people across an entire galaxy, colonizing probably hundreds of planets. im sure theres no shortage of meat shields

[@valx7586]

@@infectedpotato117 that's a good point, I suppose it skews my viewpoint a little that the only places we've been fighting have only been rinkydink outposts

[@Bubbabbread]

my theory is that, well, only the most patriotic citizens are going to be allowed to reproduce. cant have families raising dissidents that wont wanna grow up to be helldivers; that is detrimental to the war effort and not very democratic.

[@ShrexualTension]

but those go hand-in-hand. a society with an overpopulation problem would have no issues dropping 20 people at a time to their immediate deaths.

[@jakestechtravels4864]

Brilliant video! I am like 80 hours into this game and have noticed many things mentioned here. Cant wait to see how things go with it. Best game in years especially with friends!

[@Unhinged_Salmon]

I love how the drop animation makes a perfect video intro to anything

[@idcgaming518]

I was playing stellaris when listening to this, and I had to pause multiple times due to the fact that you keep using stellaris music in this video at certain points lol.

[@Viccerz]

Hello? Democracy Officer? This one, right here

[@Birdzlitlehelpr]

Thank you for being the first person I've seen on KZbin realizing that helldiver and hellpod are references to starship troopers and not halo odst!

[@eragcon]

theres should absolutely be a secret code phrase among the playerbase to signal that were begining to question. forgive the loose analogy, but imagine like skyrim where the guards just like "psst, hail sithis" and then just goes about his buisness but its that stealthy knod between two brotherhood members. some sorta secret lore divers club operateing within. i know my ideas bare bones but it could be fun.

[@stevenmcgreagor5841]

I smell treason. You're getting reported to a democracy officer

[@bradyfletcher7153]

I’m down😂😂😂

[@Lyheroes]

"Do you guys smell treason? I smell treason!"

[@DarkMalcontent]

4:40 "He tried to kill me with a fork lift" song came to mind