The Hermle 1050-020 - Part 3

[@noelaruldas1152]

Thank you very much for your demonstration and explanation! I had understood that from the main wheel the power is transferred to centre wheel and then from centre wheel to third wheel and then to second hand wheel and then to escapement wheel then the power is reversed from escapement wheel to second hand wheel and then to third wheel and then to centre wheel and back to main wheel. The process is repeated again and again. Forwarding power from main wheel to escapement wheel causes the pendulum or balance wheel to keep oscillating for days and reversing power from escapement wheel to main wheel causes the motion work to drive the hands.

[@roncalverley]

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[@JohnClothier]

Looking to be another enjoyable series Ron!

[@roncalverley]

Hi John. Thanks for the vote of confidence. Just picked up the wood this morning. Now I can get seriously into building the case :)

[@JohnClothier]

Ron Calverley how exciting! Looking forward to it already

[@weerobot]

Beautiful Movement..

[@roncalverley]

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[@blazer4743]

Did you consider using Sapele-- a form of mahogany--as you probably know. I am currently using this on my gfather project

[@Megalocade]

Great reliable movement, but the later hermle movements with this hair spring balance wheel are cheap and nasty and will eventually cause issues both of mine did, they wear on the bottom bushing and the wheel will rattle when the chimes go off and because it's rattling it has an effect on the speed of the wheel and cause time speed issues, it's an annoying noise, even doing up the top bushing doesn't seem to help as the wear happens on the bushing sides, I changed my balance wheel to a floating coil spring one in the end and the clocks been running for many years with out an issue.

[@roncalverley]

I too was disappointed with the way the balance wheel is supported. Thanks for commenting. 👍

[@johnbrodehl9743]

The floating balance is superior to the staffed one, except for the way the rate is adjusted.

[@konamotoogawa5917]

I have the same movements , for 30 years, after service, why it keeps stopping ? Sometimes it go for many hrs like 6 hrs and it stop , sometimes only 1 hrs…..stop again ! Need help…..thank you

[@roncalverley]

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[@TedHallII]

It's a georgous movement... my 1050-020 has a floating balance wheel... wonder if it's because it's older?

[@roncalverley]

Hi Ted, Yes, that was a bit disappointing. They called it a floating balance, but it really isn't. However, it will outlast me anyway, lol. Thanks for commenting. 👍

[@steveulliott4106]

hi ron, ive just picked up a 1972, west german bentima 3 chime mantle clock, with the same 74 1050 - 020 movement. im just woundering why they changed the floating balance like mine for the fixed balance like yours, do you think theres an advantage with the newer fixed position, i always thought it was better to have floating so you dont have to level the clock, the regulator is on the balance wheel to on mine, a hole and pin lever. took me some time to find it. why do you think they made the changes? can i also ask to oil the front of the movement do i just need to take off the hands and undo the nuts on the back, do i need to remember say the 9 o clock position for putting the hands bak on, cheers ron

[@roncalverley]

Hi Steve, Yes, I was disappointed when I received my movement and found that it was not a true floating balance. However, I believe that this newer design may be more robust. As for oiling the front bearings, I can't help you there. Just use common sense. 🙂

[@lilliandodd6419]

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[@clownman7473]

Hi, so I went to check up on my movement (same movement here), but I noticed the floating balance wheel isnt really moving like yours. does that mean i need to loosen up the spring? or is there any way I can correct it as my clock is losing a couple minutes within half a day. I lost 10 minutes within a day.

[@roncalverley]

Hi Conner, I took a quick look at your video. Yes, your escapement is different. You have the "true" floating ballance. I suggest you find a real clock repair shop. Don't mess with that delicate old hair spring. In all likelihood it just needs cleaning and adjusting. Good luck. 🤞

[@clownman7473]

​@@roncalverley and my spring for the floating balance just broke today.

[@roncalverley]

I suggest you find a real clock repair shop. 😢

[@johnbrodehl9743]

If the amplitude of the balance is not sufficient, you either have a power delivery problem, or the balance unit needs to be serviced, or replaced.

[@billy19461]

We are not in a hurry. We are sure it will be great.

[@roncalverley]

I don't know about "great" Billy, but I try :)

[@billy19461]

I think they are great.

[@roncalverley]

:)

[@charlesfick729]

How do you adjust the speed of this movement?

[@roncalverley]

There is an adjustment screw that has "+" and "-" markings. It can be clearly seen here ( 0:20 )

[@daveyfromdownsouth7889]

recently bought a clock with a similar movment

[@roncalverley]

Nice movement 👍

[@daveyfromdownsouth7889]

@@roncalverley its a 340-020

[@kathyramsey4007]

How to replace floating balance in mantel clock

[@roncalverley]

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[@AddableStone13]

Hermle quit making the “true” floating balance wheel for both reliability reasons and legal issues with how their balance wheel was designed. One flaw of the wheel is that a single drop of oil can throw wheel off whack because once oil seeps into the brass tube, between the jewels, the oil cannot be scrubbed off or out of the tube and clogs up what should be vacant space.

[@roncalverley]

Interesting! Thanks for that info. 👍

[@johnbrodehl9743]

The floating balance is very reliable. It is careless owners, and repair people that is the problem. These units should not be lubricated at all. Better than a staffed balance.

[@markfisher7962]

The one I dealt with had the tube filled with green tar: some oxidation product of the cheap oil that had been used by some adventurer in the past. A soak in white gas liberated it.

[@blackemmons]

Runs like a clock!! A finely oiled one. I find it amazing something that delicate makes it through the postal service(s). Don't ya just hate muffin burglars?? It's so mean. See ya tomorrow...... in the think tank. JimE.

[@roncalverley]

Re: "something that delicate makes it through the postal service" Yes, I was surprised when opening the box that the shipper hadn't packed it better. It likely made it here okay because it didn't have a fragile sticker on it, lol.

[@blackemmons]

:.............. because it didn't have a fragile sticker on it," Good one and probably true. JimE

[@ПашаПитецкий]

Це дуже важливо знати

[@roncalverley]

Дякуємо за перегляд і коментар. Dyakuyemo za perehlyad i komentar. 👍

[@johnbrodehl9743]

Way too much oil. The oil sinks do not need to be filled. Too much oil will cause it to run away from the pivots, and make a mess,and collect dirt. The floating balance is also 2 jewel.

[@roncalverley]

Thanks John 👍

[@markfisher7962]

I took a selection of sewing needles and ground the ends of the eyes off, leaving a fork. I can then select the size needle that will pick up the desired amount of oil in the fork. As you show, those needle oilers are hard to control. (The pointy end also needs to get ground off as well for comfort.)

[@orchardwatchandclockrepair8346]

Exelliant

[@roncalverley]

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[@beehappywoodworkingandhone439]

go half and half

[@beehappywoodworkingandhone439]

ron get series. did you get my mess. on the conclusion of your wifes Alhimerzes. I lost my wife the on 2nd also. john

[@roncalverley]

Hi John, I'm truly sorry to hear about your about your loss.

[@valborchardt3596]

😂😂😂😂 thanks Ron

[@roncalverley]

And thank you too Val :)

[@ojofelixnm3608]

Ten times too much. The film of oil around that wheel journal is extremely small. Everything else is just wasted.

[@roncalverley]

I couldn't agree with you more! Way too much. I've always been clumsy about oiling. But anyway, thanks for watching and commenting 😊