The Hillsborough Disaster : The Truth : First shown on 090912

Documentary about the Hillsborough Stadium disaster. 96 Liverpool fans were killed in a crush at the 1989 FA Cup Semi Final. This film was first shown the weekend ahead of the publication of the Hillsborough Independent Panel report.

[@aliverbirduponmychest3055]

As a survivor of pen 3 on that day and an eye witness who was ignored, the notion a Prime Minister could actually stand up in Parliament and say "Because of the weight of new evidence" is at the very least patronising to those who lost their lives, their grieving families and to those of us who where ignored, smeared, blamed and demonized who have suffered in silence for decades and at the worst an insult! They thought they could hide the evidence for 30 years and by the time that evidence become public we would have forgotten and given up! But the took on the wrong city, they took on the wrong families and they took on the wrong people! The truth and evidence has always been there, they just did not want to see it. In 2020 this whole process has laid bare the fact the laws of this land do not apply to everyone, they only apply to us the little people. But it has also shown the power and strength of our wonderful community, city and football club. WE WILL NEVER WALK ALONE!

[@mikexxxmilly]

I’m happy you are Alive

[@invisibleman4827]

I'm sorry to hear of your suffering, and of your fellow survivors. What a horrible experience to suffer! 😢 I was born a couple of weeks before, and the disaster happened the day I came home from the hospital - weird connection but yeah. It was in 2008 when I was 19 that I first learned about the disaster and I was horrified. If it's any comfort, anyone with a brain recognises that accusations of violence were made up by the police, including *that* S*n article. My first reaction was 'of course police incompetent was responsible, it's obvious'. I also hope that you're in a better place now in your life. Having been through trauma myself of a different kind, I understand how much it stays with you. I also hope that the ruling in 2016 that the 97 victims were unlawfully killed brings you and your fellow survivors and the bereaved relatives at least some comfort. YNWA 🙏

[@sarahscraftyallsorts6482]

So sorry to had to experience and witness that awful day.

[@ciarawilmot8596]

Must have been horrific. To be that scared for your life, to see people scared and dying. Nobody could ever imagine. Nobody should have been killed or even injured. R.I.P to those who died and thoughts their families and all those that witnessed this scene first hand.

[@veronicaukynwa8489]

You know you are not to blame. YNWA

[@eddiedonaghy2650]

The death toll officially rose to 97 in July 2021 after the death of Andrew Devine. He suffered similar injuries to Tony Bland who died in 1993.

[@beebeeflash2614]

"Mrs Aspinall, he doesnt belong to you anymore." I cant imagine a worse thing for a mother to hear.

[@peterwilliamskelhorn6675]

@beebeeflash2614 we've met up with Margaret Aspinall in Asda Huyton as fellow Liverpool supporters we stood by her

[@mcfcguvnors]

Yeh that was awful :/ i never realised till DNA ancestory became a thing i was distantly related to 2 people on that list

[@shaunmullen8634]

I'm a Man Utd fan through and through but my heart goes out to all the lives lost that day. I remember it well. I was 15 and it came on the radio, then I watched it tragically unfold before my eyes on the BBC. I cried today for all those lives lost. The lies told against Liverpool fans were a disgrace. The media, we know who they are, and the police for omitting what really happened in the statements. Rest in peace. You'll never walk alone. X

[@marcturner3647]

As a Liverpool supporter who was there that day and survived and as a true fan i thank you for your support i know we all have loyalties to our team but I’ve grown up and married and have two kids who also go to the match I’ve always told them not to be angry at other fans but be respectful to them just like you are Anyway thanks you are a true loyal supporter of your team 👍👍👍

[@kdlofty]

Thank you @shaunmullen8634. Respect to you my friend. A true football fan.

[@ingobordewick6480]

Germany here, Borussia Dortmund till the day I die, but in this matter EVERY fan no matter what club should stand shoulder to shoulder with the 97, the survivors and their families. I was 15 that day and saw the pictures later that evening. I still can't forget them to this day. I can't even imagine what it would have been like to be in that crush and I also can't imagine how it had to be surviving that with the blame of murder on you. To this day it is a shame that Duckenfield was not charged guilty. You'll never walk alone!!!@@marcturner3647

[@marcturner3647]

Thank you for your support and i really hope that you get your law degree, i mean this sincerely . I’m not a person who needs anything but i am a person who wants truth and honesty, with respect people who went to this match didn’t go not to come home they went to watch their team, but when you have the government and police trying to protect themselves well I’ll shout it from everywhere, and I’m so glad that we got justice for our 97 they will Never Walk Alone Again i hope you get your law degree and go into help people who deserve a chance against the government and police. Plus you should come up to Liverpool and see how they will make you feel happy and give you a hug and thank you for coming Take care Marc👍👍👍

[@peterwilliamskelhorn6675]

​@@marcturner3647its great that all us Liverpool supporters(I'm one) stick together like brothers and sisters

[@deelo7179]

That poor mother who lost her 18 year old boy. 😢 I can’t imagine her pain. Especially her last words to him 😭

[@Angelica_Rodriguez39]

I teared up at the end when she was talking about not being there for him when he most needed her. You can tell how much it hurts her still, and that is a horrible feeling.

[@staff72]

So very sad. I can't imagine dying that way... Condolences to all of those families.

[@Regnbuesolv]

So, I am a Forest fan, and I know of people who attended this match as Forest fans. They remember looking across the way, really confused to what was going on, and the horror only slowly dawning on them. They are adamant that the police were at fault, as too many people were let in with no way out. One I know tried to give a witness statement, but was turned away. I'm sorry, the 96 and their families. Whatever was said about you in papers afterwards has finally been shown to be untrue and we all know the police were at fault. Rest easy and YNWA from our City Ground. Edit: please may I also add Mrs Aspinall is a courageous and intelligent lady and I hope she continues to have the strength to keep asking.

[@SweetBlackDiva71]

🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@mjsmit4841]

But they probably kept taking tickets and letting ticket holders inside.

[@mjsmit4841]

Then panicked and lied about the fans to save their own hide..

[@ladyshep]

@@mjsmit4841 you need to do some research

[@paigeleigh2554]

@@user-fp5vf9qh3i , firstly, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge of these games.. This is the best comment that I've read on football tragedies. My very best wishes!

[@mikexxxmilly]

Seeing those metal bars bent over really brings the pressure into perspective

[@ant7699]

It's criminal

[@MurdochChan]

One of the survivors had the glass front of their watch pop off which I thought was insane

[@GlennDavey]

put enough solids in a tight space and they act like a liquid

[@MurdochChan]

@@GlennDavey I watched another human crush video, I wish I could remember where it was from, it was some kind of festival. there was someone taking a video from a bridge and you could see the waves of people, reminded me almost of when you see wind blow over a grassland.

[@TekilaCocktailSuRi]

@@MurdochChan Maybe from the Love Parade 2010 in Duisburg, germany? Fits your description at least.

[@all-england-r-we5071]

No Parent should ever have to bury their Kids-especially after a football match,R.I.P to all - Halifax Town fan xx

[@tylermaysack1]

Halifax is trash!

[@fibrespider4502]

@@tylermaysack1 And you think that this is the place to say that?

[@jamesgolder373]

Sun newspaper should have been taken to court and held accountable for the lies they printed about this disaster.... Jft96

[@MJ-qb5ph]

Totally. Why did that not occur? It is unbelievable to me (I’m not English so I know nothing of your legal system)

[@JamesRoome]

So should the scousers involved in Heysel. But I guess that's OK. Always playing the victim.

[@keithdonnellan5564]

@@JamesRoome Absolutely Correct. Bunch of scum.

[@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx]

@@JamesRoome So, to you, the Liverpool fans who died that day were not victims, and the lies put about by the police and The Sun were in fact truths?

[@devongarvie6261]

@@JamesRoome you’re a knob mate

[@loz14]

Remembering the 96 and everyone that was there at Hillsborough in 1989. You will never walk alone.

[@anneross1021]

I was very proud and honoured to work at V2 records and we through our artists and contacts put on the Hillsborough Justice concert at Anfield and put out a recording of the concert after..all the money went to the families and supported them in the launch of their legal bid for justice...I am sorry it took 23 years for the families to be fully exonerated. Justice for the 96

[@StokieDave]

Still boycott The Sun to this day as do a lot of fans from numerous clubs. Their headlines were disgraceful.

[@danrichardson5838]

I don’t think you can be a supporter of football and buy The Sun.

[@KingHayabusa384]

As you should. This so called newspaper is cancer and it should not exist.

[@MJ-qb5ph]

@@KingHayabusa384 totally

[@medi8057]

The sun is by far one of the worst outlets on the planet.

[@debbiecarter900]

Too right no one buys the scum aka sun

[@WendyRisoli]

God almighty. I found out after thirty years. It's making me cry.

[@victorformosa2825]

@pbr streetgang I knew of this on the day it happened and it still haunts me.

[@ant7699]

Fucking hell. When she said. Would you like to remember the faces.. My eyes welling up

[@shafiq1537]

i remember on the day but hurts more now becouse i have children of my own

[@shredder9536]

@@ant7699 I'm tearing up too. Can't imagine being there and living with what they seen. We can switch off after watching they probably think about it daily

[@petergriffin2836]

I’ve been in a crowd collapse situation like that in New Orleans during Mardi Gras on bourbon street and it was absolutely terrifying!!! I can’t even imagine what those people went through. My situation was bad but nothing like that!!

[@simgingergirl]

It's amazing how much damage a human body can do, even if it's doing nothing. Unbelievable.

[@shafiq1537]

yes is beyond belief

[@JJ-iq8mi]

They were doing nothing. They were pushing and shoving.

[@frances4007]

@@JJ-iq8mithey were dying and fighting for breath

[@bettytigers]

​@@JJ-iq8miWhen you're late and are missing the start of a match, you don't think you'll cause much harm by pushing the crowd in front of you. Unfortunately this time the police supervision to ease or redirect the pressure caused by the pushing wasn't there. The later fans didn't know them pushing forward in order to see the match would be fatal to those further forward who couldn't escape because of the anti hooligan fences. Bad behaviour at previous matches all over the country and Europe from different teams supporters set the dangerous traps at Hillsborough and other grounds. The doors to the central pen tunnel should have been shut even before the kick off, but because the police commander lacked experience, in trying to save lives in the crush outside of the ground lives were lost in the central pen. I was listening to the match on the radio and assumed because of the disturbance in the crowd that it was bad fan behaviour again like at the Heysel stadium, but like many others we were wrong. What caused the disaster was understandable over anxiety not to miss seeing the match which led to pushing forward into an overcrowded section. (early coming fans near the front were probably under the most pressure generally speaking.) Some police and authorities trying to escape their part in the disaster wasn't acceptable at all, but understandable for some who made mistakes and felt very bad about it. Many folk, supporters and those on stadium duty ended up being heroes and life savers.

[@valerierodger7700]

I'm so glad they included the officer in this. Just when I thought I couldn't be more angry at the senior officers for the tragedy they caused . . . 22:12 this tragedy was directly caused by the mismanagement, the lack of leadership, the incompetence with Duckenfield replacing Mole. Decades of injustice put into motion with Duckenfield's lie - as people were still dying! - and maintained by senior officers who enabled the cover-up, even to the point of altering statements of junior officers. And because of all of that, good officers, traumatized by the event, betrayed by their upper management, demonized by the public, suffered even more. It's not hard to recognize the signs of trauma in the officer. Not being able to remember facial details isn't unusual for first responders, it's a way for the brain to protect itself from the emotional trauma. And it's highly unlikely that any of them were given any sort of counseling or other psychological assistance - note that he said he had gotten help _in recent years._ Because at the time, you were expected to just suck it up. The loss of life, the devastation of the loved ones, the trauma to the survivors, the officers, the first responders, and all of it exacerbated for decades because those in charge refuse to take responsibility for their mistakes.

[@raechelweir8861]

Well said..he needed your understanding and acknowledgement of his own trauma and sense of helplessness..RN from NZ

[@mysticalpineapple7263]

7:10 such a beautiful man to stop someone from dying ... wow . I’ve got chills

[@prolefeed9371]

they are amongst us those people

[@retrosad]

The hillsborough disaster was a new level of fuck-up

[@loulou7963]

To me even the opening of that gate didn’t have to result in this. Open the gate but close that tunnel and then filter people around into the nearly empty side pens. How could they know that those pens were already rammed when the tunnel was still left open ? How on earth were those people supposed to know what was happening in those pens until they were down that tunnel and once in there there was nowhere for them to go. I cannot cannot understand how anyone could sit in that control box and not see the situation in those pens.

[@BadWebDiver]

That's the BIG question...

[@doyoulikebeetroot]

It's because duckenfield wasn't in that box the whole time and he couldn't give a f**k about the fans, He wasn't even looking at the situation when he gave the order It was his job to maintain safety and he was grossly negligent, The box overlooked the lower stand and he has monitors looking at other parts, He couldn't care less and had no idea about the lay out of the ground yet he has been cleared of all charges? Utter boll*ks!

[@clothilde1623]

It was a very lethal negligent shitshow in basic logistics.

[@ryanjacobson2508]

And the pens had even more fences than usual, and that in itself caused a lot of carnage.

[@ladyshep]

Police control is right there overlookong the pens, as for not closing the gates to the centre pens they would have if the officer who was in charge for years hadnt of been moved and replaced with an idiot who knew nothing of policing football matchs.

[@francessweeney2308]

It wasn't the rank and file officers who were at fault;it was a management mistake.

[@valerierodger7700]

Exactly. And those at fault in the upper ranks are protected, while those on the ground deal with the trauma, and bear the brunt of the blame and anger from the general public

[@andyk444]

The jury came back today in the two year long inquest into the death of the 96, they were all unlawfully killed. Criminal trials must now follow, the south Yorkshire Police were fully at falt and they lied.

[@Mikeb1001]

The bastards have got away with it, yet again.

[@KidarWolf]

I was just three years old when this happened. I have vague recollections of the news speaking of something awful from when I was that age. It wasn't until I was much older that I learned more about this. It has made me very sensitive and aware of my surroundings, and of the safety of others around me. It was a terrible thing to happen, it should never have happened, and it should never have been covered up. The world needed to know the actual truth long before it was finally acknowledged correctly by those in power - how can you prevent something like this happening again if you are not truthful, and complete, in an explanation of the event? Every time I hear of a crush, I get so angry that steps that could have been taken to mitigate it were clearly not taken. We, as a species, can, and must, do better at accountability, at investigation, at learning the lessons, and making changes based on the lessons we have learned. No person in a crush will ever walk alone. Because to me, every one of them matters. They always will.

[@beasleycourt8873]

The warnings that a disaster was on the cards were there. I remember the F.A cup semi final in 1981 between Wolves and Tottenham. On that day there was another crush at the Leppings Lane end, only this time quick thinking by the Police prevented any serious injuries or deaths because they quickly opened the gates and allowed fans to sit and watch the rest of the match from behind the goal. This resulted in Hillsborough losing it's safety certificate. That's when Sheffield Wednesday redesigned the terrace by building the pens. They were not there in 1981. The idea was to prevent sideways movement in the crowd. Liverpool F.C wanted their fans to have the larger Spion Kop stand for the 1989 match, because fans had got hurt in the previous match the year before, but were turned down. None of this of course detracts from the fact that the Police tried to put the entire blame on the Liverpool fans...

[@RSAhokejfan]

Massive tragedy. So sad 😢

[@jamesoneill5968]

I was disappointed to hear that no one would be brought to account to the death of the 96.

[@intotheunknown1991]

i wasn't born when this happened but i have always been aware of this day and the utter negligence from the police was utterly shameful, they kept letting people in, they told lies that the liverpool fans were causing damage, fans kept trying to tell them what had happened but they just didnt listen, RIP to every single person who died that day and im so glad that you finally have the justice you deserve

[@maryann1531]

A tragic set of circumstances. May they R.I.P. 🙏

[@harrynac6017]

Yeah, I remember that as the main story in the Netherlands. The officer opening the gate to avoid peril, but accidentally causing more. Apart from the horror scenes (still vivid in my brain), I mostly remember people helping others. I hate the blame game. A tragic set of circumstances was exactly what it was.

[@SiVlog1989]

Panorama did a documentary about Hillsborough after the Hillsborough Independent Panel announced their findings of cover up by the establishment. One section of the documentary in particular stands out: "Hillsborough was a disaster like no other. It was captured by 8 BBC cameras, the police had CCTV and a mobile camera unit. The BBC footage was later released to the police and the victims' lawyers and then locked away, considered 'too distressing for broadcast'. 24 years [at the time of original broadcast] on, we've been able to analyse it. It reveals how things went wrong from the start at Hillsborough and continued going wrong for longer than has ever been admitted,"

[@GlennDavey]

There's always a Duckenfield or a Higgenbotham behind the corrupt handling of these Yorkshire tragedies

[@StokieDave]

That police cheif should have been prosecuted years ago. I remember watching this as a kid. My heart goes out to everyone. Whoever thought it was safe to put fences around the ground was an utter mad man as the fans could have maybe spilled onto the pitch. Combine that with the police opening the doors causing a mass surge it was a recipe for disaster. RIP.

[@ryanjacobson2508]

A shorter and weaker fence would've given way more easily and allowed people to escape. But the fence they used mostly stood up to the combined weight of several hundred people pushing against it (many adult men included). Who thought it was necessary to use that kind of fencing? Some of those on the pitch ended up partially pulling down small sections of the fence to let people escape, but it was too little too late.

[@sannakarppinen4163]

I hope that the families will appeal the verdict to the higher court.

[@lauravacek4293]

I listen to 90.10 FM. I like the Beatles, etc, but hate most British reporters on NPR. This channel is better than any other so far. Very very good... let me finish the show.

[@ginagina9720]

Just watched the drama series ANNE So sad to watch RIP to all the people who died (15-04-1989) and also (R.I.P. to the mother of Kevin Daniel Williams….Anne Williams) x

[@purselmer5931]

There's no "version" of the truth. The truth is the truth. And no matter what you do, or how hard you fight against it, no matter how long you try to hide it, it will always come to light.

[@tabbycat6458]

Something should have been done with the police chief. It was his call and he screwed up. Wen citizens screw up we take responsibility. But the police dont. That right there shows complete injustice.

[@ianharris879]

did the thousands who turned up without tickets and tried to storm the gates take responsibility?

[@Annie-zr6xy]

Ian Harris that was proven to be untrue allegations made up by the police chief to deflect blame.

[@shredder9536]

@@ianharris879 they didn't try to storm the gates, the footage shows them being orderly. You clearly didn't watch this documentary. John Motson was told to read out on TV while people were dying that fans broke down a gate. All lies

[@pheart2381]

Who sais that to a lady whos son just got killed?"he doesnt belong to you,he belongs to the coroner".

[@racheldemain1940]

Don't know but I hope things have changed and people are more sensitive when explaining why a loved one could not hug or touch their loved ones who have died.

[@lindabright515]

I still feel disgusted that the newspapers were allowed to print the pictures of the people being crushed. I felt it cruel and unnecessary. RIP to the 96.. I pray the families will get closure..

[@hazelwalsh3269]

There should have been a filtering system!! Plus! The decision to open Gate C should not have been taken without closing the tunnel gates!! Stevie Winder could have seen that pens 3,4 were already full! The match also should have been delayed!! How dare the police try to blame the fans!! They had no where to go.. but down the obvious route to the tunnel! The Police Failed them! Then didn’t get their emergency plan into action either.. they stood and watched while people were being crushed! And failed to get the ambulances onto the ground! It was just a disgrace! Not blaming all of the South Yorkshire Police...Because it was the senior officers fault! As I’m sure some police tried their best to help victims.. but for a lot it was too late! Duckenfeild froze! He was incompetent and out of his depth! Read the Taylor Report! He had it right from the start! And persecution’s should have followed! The first inquest was a white wash!! Those poor families had to wait 27 years to get Justice!! Far too Ling! Lies and cover ups finally brought down! R.I.P the 96!

[@BadWebDiver]

Too true!

[@angeldimariagreaves4582]

All ticket was allocated but over 2 thousand non ticket holders turned up not forgetting heysal victims ill never forget the pic of hick sisters who paid for their tickets squashed against perimeter fence

[@Jellybellyirish]

@@angeldimariagreaves4582 oh look a sun reader

[@molybdomancer195]

@@angeldimariagreaves4582 read the original post to which you have replied. An official inquiry found the issue was police mismanagement before during and after the crush incident. This was then compounded by a campaign to exonerate the police and blame the fans orchestrated by the police themselves, the media especially the S*n and at least one Tory politician

[@angeldimariagreaves4582]

Hazel I know what happened that day why can't we just let them rest they was suffaced by their own fans fek the Taylor report if duckenfield hadn't opened the gates there would of been more fatalities that day I agree there was mistakes made they should of closed the leppings Lane entry off b4 opening gates then they could of trampled over anyone running to the other 3 half empty pens I watched Anne itv I cried 1st episode but she neglected her family to seek justice remember it was 1989 no mobile phones they had rely on radios the non ticket holders caused it and the medical services let them Down 41 could of been saved and for the record they was try get in the closed leppings Lane that's why that duckenfield opened them my friend was there and ask Brian Clough but he retracted his statement for a column in 4 for 2 magazine they was doing aeroplane waves in pubs b4 KO not knowing within the hour they would have their own tragedy and the perimeter fences didn't help I saw it unfold on TV fans was going to Bruce gobblier telling him fans was dying and he was telling them get back thought it was a pitch invasion I could go on and on but those 96 didn't need die they should of delayed KO simple

[@klaseronen7535]

I remember the tragedy very well, too well, it has never left me although I watched it happening only from the television. I am from Finland and still it felt like losing friends in that grandstand. Love to those who perished, there families, loved ones and friends. 💖🇫🇮

[@qwertyuiop6792]

Justice for the 96

[@mccleandazza4618]

97

[@emmablake8640]

Never forgotten ❤.

[@fitzjon4628]

Went to a football match and never came home R.I.P

[@Iceis_Phoenix]

I just recently found out about this disaster. I was in a stampede in the 80s at a rock concert i got pinned up against a barricade I could not breathe deep for 2 hours. Ill never 4get the look on my friends face. Pure terror. She was ok too but we never bought floor seats again.

[@dangroat4438]

I went through the exact same thing at a rock concert too. I was pressed up against a big security officer guarding the stage. It was a smaller venue and my group had front row tickets so we were all being crushed. Thankfully they got the situation under control and managed to move everyone back so there were no deaths, but it still terrifies me to this day to be put in that kind of situation in the first place. I go to an event to enjoy it, not to be crushed.

[@thefivepoints]

Looking forward to Heysel: The Truth.

[@ericgabeau8148]

I hade the honnor to met Jerry Mc Iver in 2011 back to Liverpool, he survived the tragedie and is an actif member of Hillsborough Justice Campain. Jerry descrived is fight to survive in an dramatic poeme.🙏

[@KatieMooo905]

The prison like fences around the playing pitch caused the deaths, if they weren’t there, the tragedy would never have occurred. They even call the areas ‘pens’, that should have be warning enough. Those fences need to go, and the biggest issues that needs addressing is why they are there in the first place.

[@ryanjacobson2508]

The pitch fencing was designed precisely to stop fans from getting onto the pitch. But given an emergency situations, such fencing will endanger those who must leave the area quickly.

[@bingonamo7520]

Here in NZ, it was always reported that the cops were at fault, so it's odd to me that some people still remember that wrong to this day in the UK and think Liverpool fans were at fault.

[@mccleandazza4618]

Because the uk police were in cahoots witht he press and government ...there was no social media we would never have known how other countries were reporting it

[@bingonamo7520]

@@mccleandazza4618 Oh, I see.

[@mcfcguvnors]

BBC even reported ^^^ in this just after 13 mins it was the FA Cup final shows that AP tells the news what to say they simply do as they are told

[@ralphcantrell3214]

Key points: 0:32 - "...a judicial inquiry made it crystal clear that the 96 deaths were a direct result of terrible mistakes made by senior police officers who were in charge that day." 13:06 - "But even as the disaster was unfolding, an alternative version of the truth was being spun by senior South Yorkshire police officers." 17:20 - "A lie gets around the world before the truth has put it's trousers on. So basically, you know, if you want to insure a version that is remembered you get in first." 20:21 - "Lord Justice Taylor's report into the tragedy was unequivocal. It was mismanagement by senior officers of the South Yorkshire Police that was the prime cause of the disaster, yet no officer has ever been convicted of any crime as a result of what happened." That last one pretty much sums it up. The guilty immediately began a cover up and it appears that justice may never happen because of who the culprits were.

[@lauravacek4293]

Thank you. Opposite statements: The truth will set you free. /A lie can get halfway around the world before the truth can get its pants on. Knowledge is power. / Ignorance is bliss. If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. /The definition of insanity is to try, try again and expect different results. Nothing ventured, nothing gained./ Better safe than sorry.

[@ralphcantrell3214]

@@lauravacek4293 LOL! That is a very nice take on the situation.

[@JeweLinHisHans]

I avoid crowds to begin with but when a crowd is that dense I would never walk into it. But that’s me. Maybe some people like crowds? Don’t know. They immediately scream turn away to me. I only go to events that are small in wide open spaces. Too many crowd deaths throughout history.

[@PeppyOoze]

6:10 - an absolutely terrifying description. i cannot imagine what it would've been like to have been either of those pens.

[@bostonblackie9503]

My Great Uncle went to a New Years Day game in Glasgow. It turned into a disaster and again I believe police did nothing. He had dresses nicely for the game and returned home with his clothes in taters. My mom had lined up to get him the ticket the mounted police just kept pushing people against a wall even though they weren't doing anything but peacefully waiting to get to the booth to buy a ticket. I think my mum told her uncle she would not go and buy him a ticket ever again.

[@ant7699]

I remember being a kid and going into the newspaper shop seeing all the newspapers covering this

[@nikitanicol6698]

Remember this so awful 😢my heart goes out to all of the families 👪

[@matthewhicks3155]

Duckenfield wasn't up to the job. The decisions he made on the day cost the lives of so many innocent people. Grieving families have been to he'll and back to fight for justice. Duckenfield should not of been prosecuted for his incompetance on the day, but along with many others perverting the course of justice for the years and decades after. I am sad to say that will never happen. RIP the 97 fans that went to watch a game of football, but never came home.

[@patrickdoyle9304]

Pen fencing to stop the crowd fanning out along the terrace. How could this design have been allowed?

[@TheDrednaught]

Very sad. I remember being at the away end clock end Arsenal with the Man U fans league cup semi so crushed feet left the ground and I wasn’t small. I just knew if this sort of thing carried on there would be another disaster the game I refer was in 1990 so lessons had not been learned at all. RIp all those poor souls that died

[@lauravacek4293]

Could you please try some punctuation now? I don't understand a thing you said.

[@johnllewellyn3481]

born on a summer's day "58". Family moved from Kent to Suffolk when i was four. Deeply upset my Dad said Ipswich town are the best. That was the moment i became a football fan. Back in the day my team did pretty good. What happened at Hillsborough that afternoon is , ..........., Sorry, can't find the words. What i want to say is when Liverpool came to Town all i wanted was meet and talk about football with Liverpool fans . A memory that will stay with me always will be be , before the game meetings a couple of Liverpool fans in a pub in Ipswich. " Anfield is a shrine to football. ". It is . i spent the next week talking Scouse. Dalglish scored the winning goal that day i think. ( i did pretty well too for a while mimicking the accent). (with the ladies). The point I'm trying to make goes to the lies and deceit of those in power which forced Mothers and Fathers, Sisters and brothers to not only find the truth, deal with their loss but have the determination to find 'justice '. For me , that's LFC greatest win. with respect , Johnnie Llewellyn Suffolk

[@mrkipling2201]

The tunnel to the central pens should have been shut at half 2 because that's when they were full. It was the right decision to open gate c but the tunnel should have been shut before that happened. Total police cock up by an inexperienced commander. Why did they replace superintendent mole 3 weeks beforehand who had done an adequate job the 2 previous semi finals

[@mrkipling2201]

Bats RULE that’s right 2 coppers played a prank on a probationer which mole would have had no knowledge of. What I didn’t get was the fact that they moved him 3 weeks before the semi final. If only they had let him take charge of the game and then move, well 96 people would still be alive and all the pain and anger wouldn’t be there.

[@keithbentley6081]

Not just Duckinfield at fault, he was the eventual scapegoat. At fault was the establishment's attitude to football supporters and working-class people in general.

[@fotisboys]

I was watching this game live from Australia with my dad.My Father got up covered the TV with his whole boys and turned to TV off.I asked why you turning off the TV dad we a finally watching a actual live game which never happened in Australia unless it was a FA,cup final he said" son something horrible is happening not a riot but people look like are getting crushed I don't want to you to see this". My dad unplugged the TV and took it with him so I don't get the urge to watch what was happening.. Shocking absolutely shocking..

[@dansweet2499]

I understand things like this happen but when you are in charge, You should take responsibility say I screwed up you only dig yourself into a deeper hole when you try to cover it up and say it was the fans fault when it was Duckingfield and the rest of the security, That's what has pissed the families off even more. If I was a family member of a victim I would be saying HOW DARE YOU SAY THIS WAS THEIR FAULT YOU ARE IN CHARGE AND IT WAS YOUR FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY AND YOU FAILED,

[@juliewillis7852]

😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢💔💔💔💔💔💔💔 my heart goes out to the family’s

[@theladystyle1]

ESPN's 30 for 30 did an excellent 2 hour episode on The Hillsborough Disaster.

[@waves2378]

I remember one time as a kid I asked my dad if we could go see the Olympics in person. He told me he would rather suck a cyanide lollipop. Being 8 years old, I didn’t understand why he didn’t want to go to a live sports event. Seeing this, and other horrible examples of stadium overcrowding, I can understand why he doesn’t want to go.

[@incarnateTheGreat]

Odd your father would say something like that to you, but did he specify danger at attending sporting events as the reason for not attending them? We have to remember that Hillsborough was the culmination of several things: pens in terraces (pens, for fuck sakes), overcrowding at football (although a lot of people didn't seem to mind it because it was normal), outdated stadia that were falling apart from ages of neglect and cheap owners, gray areas in rules and function, and a growing separation between the supporter and authority because of hooliganism at the time. It's horrible to say this, but events like Hillsborough, the Bradford City fire, and even Heysel should be clear indicators of how the above is addressed. The Taylor Report drove straight into the majority of this. Keep in mind: Hillsborough was NOT the result of crowd trouble or hooliganism. It was a collection of poor decision-making by the FA, by the poorly-managed ground that was in dire need of upgrading, the large amount of traffic on the day that had Liverpool supporters arriving late by coach, having Liverpool supporters (who had a massive following) sat in the Leppings Lane end instead of the Kop, and to top it all off, the South Yorkshire Police sacking the previous Chief Superintendent Brian Mole -- who had supervised previous FA Cup Semi-Finals at the ground and knew how to pretty much everything -- because of a ridiculous incident weeks prior, and replacing him with David Duckenfield -- a man who not only knew NOTHING about football, but was not prepared to handle such an event; it showed. These days, there's significant crowd control, better ticketing methods, and hopefully better security. I will say that I've seen some events under this criteria that still have issues because security and management can't tell their left from their right, but ultimately attending sporting events now is safe and well-managed.

[@waves2378]

@@incarnateTheGreat he said that it was mainly because of traffic build-ups and how expensive it would be. I don't know if this even occured to him.

[@incarnateTheGreat]

@@waves2378 fair. I know big crowds aren't for everyone. Even causes stress.

[@mcfcguvnors]

@@incarnateTheGreat Used to love nothing more than a full Kippax or 70 k people at Monsters of rock , these days id probably stay away once it starts its hard to stop , especially with the old style terracing in UK Footy grounds . Goodison park or woodison as we called it was a miracle no one died there . Wooden sleepers from the old GNW railway were used as terracing . Lethal in icy or cold weather .

[@chrishall3443]

I remember every part of this tragedy, playing out on TV. The Police were at fault, opening the gate, but Liverpool fans surged through at such a rate, which was the catalyst for such heartache. I am a Bradford City Fan and I will stand with Liverpool and those affected. Rest in beautiful peace The 96. We know what it all feels like. ❤️❤️❤️

[@joemc5201]

Don’t know what footage you’ve watched but I didn’t see any surge! I seen a lot of people being herded through that gate without direction or guidance

[@emmacassidy8482]

There were too many people at the match in the first place. An accident waiting to happen

[@molybdomancer195]

@@emmacassidy8482 no there weren’t. Don’t believe the lies about ticketless fans. The problem was the police treating it as crowd control ie thinking they were dealing with a mob rather than crowd management which is about keeping a large group of people safe. Even when the crush started they were herding people back into the pens as they thought the fans fleeing for their lives were merely doing a pitch invasion.

[@andyrainford5728]

No. I'm ashamed to say that I used to think the same until the footage came out as part of this enquiry, but there was no surge, just people walking through a very wide gate, and zero control. No pushing at the back, that's not how crowd crushes happen, it's more like a wave swelling with an incoming tide, receding and then coming back slightly further. Listen to the chap's recount of him walking down the tunnel, it's pretty clear that they had little trouble getting through to the terraces without putting any pressure.

[@MarkSmith-er7fe]

@@andyrainford5728 did these supporters have tickets?

[@benbenester1229]

So did all those people have tickets for the game? Or did they all turn up and try to get it?

[@molybdomancer195]

Yes most of them did. Can’t say they all did but the “mob of ticketless fans” was a rumour spread by South Yorkshire police with help from some politicians and at least one tabloid newspaper. The most recent inquiry has cleared the fans of responsibility for the event and laid it firmly at the door of the police for extremely poor crowd management

[@mimid6354]

@@molybdomancer195apparently that isn’t true. And the number of those on the ground was below capacity. Probably more lies to make them fans look bad

[@220773]

All my support and sympathy to those who died or suffered. I'm a Scottish Rangers man, I grew up knowing all about what happened at Ibrox in 1971, so I was immediately sympathetic to these people. To be honest, this one was much worse: at Ibrox people simply piled up on each other because of a sudden surge of people coming back up on an old and obsolete staircase; here instead a policeman commander first took such a stupid and dangerous decision and then told lies to the press, after having sealed the tragic death of so many people. Honestly again, the very decision to put Liverpool fans in such a narrow end of that stadium was the first cause for this mayhem. I've no peculiar link to Liverpool FC, I don't like its links with Celtic, the often common 'victimising Irishness' they share, I'm a proud working-class (former) Labour voting Scot and I know how much we Scots suffered the same amount of rubbish the Irish who came here suffered, yet we've always been treated as the guilty ones just because we were Scottish and didn't want the Irish to come in and threaten our jobs... it was A WAR BETWEEN THE POOR! Victimising attitudes are stranger to my way of living and to Scotland in general, we're still treated like 'fascists' or Tories because we needed to defend our jobs, yet we've come apart from that shit and all the fuss about bigotry in Scotland is well over, both Celtic and Rangers fans generally vote left-wing nowadays, the only reminders of bigotry are shown in the Auld Firm matches, but that's just banter, ongoing banter. This is what too many Celtic fans don't get and they still seek revenge, so they spread fake news regarding us lot and too many people all around the UK and Europe now treat us like 'fascist bastards', I cannot stand that. Never mind, despite all this, I felt immediately close to the people of Liverpool and the LFC fans who died that day, not yet knowing what had caused all that chaos. We were told LFC fans had pushed barriers down to enter the ground thus overcrowding it, we had no knowledge of what Duckinfield had done, yet I felt immediately close to the LFC lot and felt SO ANGRY. It was EVIDENT people had been put in the WRONG PLACE and were dying as a result of that decision. Anyway, Glasgow and Liverpool share many things, we're both shipyard working-class left-wing people, that's where we come from, no matter you're English and we're Scots. Justice for the 96.

[@davidmcclymont6326]

My thoughts and eternal prayers are with you all god bless the 96

[@valuetraveler2026]

Note all the villains are still walking around freely - Very corrupt society

[@jameswalker3073]

Justice!

[@gyobfan22]

Not going to happen now it's been far too long.

[@mrkipling2201]

Let’s hope duckenfield and his cronies are finally held accountable for the 27 years of crap that has constantly come from their side. Glad that the families and the fans were proved right after all that time even though proper football fans knew that they were telling the truth no matter what team they support.

[@mrkipling2201]

Bats RULE they certainly need to

[@chrisrodgers2537]

Duckenfield will be found guilty & get a suspended sentence possibly 12 months at most

[@mrkipling2201]

Ann-Marie Paliukenas I know I can’t believe that yet again he’s avoided the guilty verdict that he should have got years ago.

[@molybdomancer195]

@@mrkipling2201 he was able to convince a jury by again blaming the fans.

[@mrkipling2201]

@@molybdomancer195 unfortunately he got away with it again.

[@user-sp5pi9pg6x]

Rip to the 97 gone but never forgotten manchester united fan

[@paulsherwood3230]

I went to a rugby league match a couple of weeks after.i couldn't believe how small the leppings lane end was.the police had to be at fault. If I hadn't seen it I wouldn't believe it

[@dragonflyBMX]

Duckenfield should have been brought to justice from the beginning.

[@gazancfc]

He had 3 trials he came out each time an innocent man

[@paigeleigh2554]

God bless, Liverpool. YWNA

[@torpedodropkick59]

Narrow tunnel and huge crowds, disaster in the making!

[@user-sp5pi9pg6x]

There was a incident at the same ground in 1981

[@cartzboy1664]

Never forgotten❤ YNWA97

[@jacktheripoff1888]

Did the police think they could tag the blame for this on the Liverpool fans because of Heysel 1985?

[@danielvictorcassidy8091]

Almost certainly. Heysal was a sign of the hooligan culture of the time, combined with an old stadium that was not fit to hold a major final. Whereas Hillsborough was human error, not being aware of the dangers, and the individuals and some of those high up in the police not wanting to own up to it, who thought it easy to spread at least some of the blame onto the fans. Both are tragedies of course, regardless of who was to blame, id like to think of such things as heartbreaking progress, when unfortunate events lead to learning and more safety for all.

[@danielledewitt1]

This crush was Duckenfields fault.

[@molybdomancer195]

They did think that and sadly to some extent they succeeded with help from the Scum newspaper. There are still people convinced it was the fans fault

[@prolefeed9371]

​@@molybdomancer195 agree completely

[@TGP109]

I know this is an aside, but the phrase "an eye for an eye" does NOT refer to "vengeance", it refers to proportionality in punishment.

[@jasonblur5984]

Heysel !... Liverpool keep quiet about this !..

[@gerardstockwell5661]

The guilty have been found & serving time for there abhorrent behavior do you research

[@Hu3yN9]

Just like your profile name. "Blur"

[@vanessahenry7238]

I'm not surprised with The Sun's behaviour - they are disgusting!

[@torpedodropkick59]

Horrendous vision, turned off the tv, in shock for the whole week when that happened! The death toll always noted, but the PTS and life,long injuries a toll on those too!

[@gazancfc]

June 2021 , the legal cases have come to an end and justice has been done as per the actual evidence

[@keithsweetfeld2663]

I want you all to know that I'm not mad at anyone for this tragedy. Really, I'm not! I'm just stumped over how and why it happened over 30 years ago

[@vegascad]

Sheffield Wednesday fans cry each say for that day

[@mjsmit4841]

Why does this remind me of the Bradford city stadium fire of 1985? Really? Something this devastating happened again as a soccer/football stadium? Coincidence? I don't think so..

[@amandaj.barnes5919]

Declared an accident from the start before an investigation.

[@kevphillips02]

Humans make mistakes and ownership and accountability deserves respect but those that lied and covered up here are below contempt . They could have been forgiven if genuinely remorseful for their mistakes .

[@traceyward6597]

still makes me cry watching it should never of happend

[@racheldemain1940]

Have , not of

[@ryanchant6861]

@@racheldemain1940 Weirdo.

[@fabriziochiapelli4101]

Respect for 96 Angels 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️AC MILAN fan

[@Iceis_Phoenix]

13:00 😔

[@saxongreen78]

Yorkshire Police have never really had much joy with tactical policing, records management or cross referencing data...seems more like malice than carelessness.

[@saxongreen78]

@@valerierodger7700 Duly appreciated and concurred - however, my statement refers more specifically to the 'missing' records, while obliquely alluding to other cases handled by that district, namely: Sutcliffe and others.

[@marcturner3647]

We always will do, 👍👍👍

[@melgrant7404]

No justice done .

[@stevenattias1803]

As an American from New York. I never knew about this incident. What a terrible incident. What actually caused this? Were there fighting between fans?

[@molybdomancer195]

No. An inexperienced policeman was in overall charge of crowd management but he never even familiarised himself with the layout of the grounds. The stadium was also very unsafe having had at least two near misses in the years before this happened. Duckenfield the man in charge thought the issue was crowd control ie managing an unruly mob rather crowd management which is about making sure a large crowd is kept safe. He froze when the incident started and didn’t declare an emergency which meant ambulances waited outside inside of coming into stadium. Over 40 of the dead could have been saved with immediate medical intervention

[@molybdomancer195]

Then to add insult to injury South Yorkshire Police engaged in a campaign of disinformation to lay the blame on the fans with the help of some of the media, especially the UK’s leading tabloid newspaper the Sun which people in Liverpool now boycott and call the Scum. The paper spread stories about fans breaking down the gate which the police had actually opened and then urinating on police. If any fans did urinate, this would be because that can happen when you are being crushed to death ( think about toothpaste in a squeezed toothpaste tube). Finally some right wing politicians also helped spread lies because Liverpool is traditionally a working class city that votes Labour

[@stevenattias1803]

@@molybdomancer195 thank you for your explanations. After typing my question, I fell into a rabbit hole on KZbin regarding this story. I learned a lot. I might even buy Straton's book the Truth on my kindle. What a disaster this was. Growing up I remember hearing stories about fans being killed at a Who concert and also at the 1988 monsters of Rock at Donnington in 1988 during Guns n Roses set. I never heard of something this massive. I have been to concerts where you are being pushed and squashed and it is scary.

[@DOCTORDROTT]

Its so sad, football troublemakers caused the fences to be put up , but what about safety risks by locking up people. No risk assessment, poor choice of venue, poor police and fans pushing to get in, poor crowd control. Lots of factors that led to this disaster. What a waste of life RIP.

[@tooleyheadbang4239]

The fences were an act of criminal irresponsibility.

[@diannekeightley9443]

I HATE your lies David Duckenfield. Can't say I hate you....That's wrong and I won't stoop. But your pathetic lies and trying to make villains of heroes....My blood BOILS.And I'm a South African. So I can only imagine what those poor families went thru.....

[@pwskelly]

Dianne Keightley everyone in Liverpool hates duckenfield after the disaster in 1989 and all the trouble he has caused and he SHOULD have been sent to prison (doesn't matter how old he is)

[@diannekeightley9443]

@@pwskelly Agree 100%.

[@prolefeed9371]

💛

[@ferociousgumby]

Several of the survivors committed suicide

[@tracymurray585]

Yeh one of MP Andy Burnham's constituents Stephen Whittle sold his ticket to one of the victims of Hillsborough and took his own life and is now classed as the 97th victim of the Hillsborough disaster, so so sad 😢 ❤️ J4T96 ❤️ RIP 97 ❤️ YNWA ❤️ xxxx

[@moritzbergmann3893]

Why?

[@oliverhughes610]

@@moritzbergmann3893 Survivor's Guilt - a psychological condition.

[@beccamason3712]

Just so very awful. I can’t imagine having this horror in your head

[@clothilde1623]

@@tracymurray585 God that’s so awful. He wasn’t remotely responsible but obviously felt guilty. Horrendous. Poor man.

[@14ToeBeans]

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