The Hillsville Massacre of 1912.

The frontier culture meets civilization in rural Virginia. In 1912, a misplaced kiss set off a string of events that pitted a powerful frontier clan against their political rivals and concepts of modern justice. The events that followed, the Hillsville Massacre or the Courthouse Tragedy, shocked and captivated the nation.
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[@chrisedwards6270]

My greatgrandfather was a Hillsville deputy at this, he rode in the posse that pursued the Allens. This is a great concise telling of the events, thanks!

[@babboon5764]

Like the Mafia hunters of today - He must have been a brave man.

[@20alphabet]

What was so great about him?

[@upsidedownopinion1440]

Well it was self defense and your great grandfather was a pig and a criminal.

[@TMckenny59]

@@20alphabetmuch that you’d never understand

[@coolcpa3321]

So what I want to know is what happened to the girl that was kissed by Wesley Allen? Did she and Will Thomas eventually marry?

[@wazza33racer]

This what happens, when people dont stand up to bullies. They only get bolder until their acts are too outrageous to ignore.

[@PHIL5251]

Even worse if our government and society Erace history and forget don’t remember we are destined to repeat it again how retarded is that

[@kathygoheen4626]

As in Donald John Trump

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@@kathygoheen4626 as in the BLM and Antifa thugs and the Democrats who support them.

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@@bravobravoh1344 obviously you are not paying attention. Using aviation/military call signals as your handle makes you feel tough, sad.

[@Joanla1954]

@@kathygoheen4626 Whoa!!! You attack them just because they said something different than you? Something on target? Something they are welcome to say and if they are an American have a blood bought right to say? (As do you, of course in your first post) Who is President Trump out shooting? What businesses is President Trump burning down? What stores is President Trump looting? This video is about bullies, about people that break laws, so BravoVictorDelta is attacked for pointing out a lawless crew as does this video. And do you know what? Their very handle may be a clue that they served the USA in uniform so you could have the right to attack a President that has nothing to do with this story, divert the conversation from what the 2 posters above you slanderous post were talking about. Yes!! They may well have served to give you that very right! How do you thank them? Hope you feel tough, sad.

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Follow the money, said a great if anonymous, until recently, historical figure.

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[@furrymessiah]

I lived in the town where the two brothers fled to in North Carolina for 25 years, and went on well over a dozen trips to Hillsville over that time. It's a testament to how forgotten this story is, by the fact I'd never heard of it until watching this video. On a more pleasant note, Carroll County, Virginia has some amazing scenery, features a portion of the Blue Ridge Parkway, and grows the best apples I've ever eaten in my entire life.

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My dad always said that history was stranger than fiction. Great episode!

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[@carriehunt9741]

I was so amazed to see this entry. My family has lived in Wythe County (next door to Carroll County) since the earth was cooling. My aunt, who was born in 1904, remembered when this happened and a man came rushing in to tell them that “The Allen’s had shot up the Carroll County courthouse!” I even got to read a contemporary news article about it, but you had more information. Thank you! I love this series.

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"The average man will bristle if you say his father was dishonest, but he will brag a little if he discovers that his great-grandfather was a pirate" - Bernard Williams

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[@soulstorm8806]

A pirate is a murderer especially during those times. Nothing to brag about. Lots to atone for.

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[@jaguarsky55]

Thank you for this vid. I remember my daddy telling me this story when I was small. We were on a family vacation, passing through the area and drove by a house of one of the actors in this tale. I sat in the back seat enthralled by his storytelling. If I remember correctly, I think there had been a family member of ours present at the courthouse that day, so not only was it a historical footnote, but a family story as well.

[@lisamcdonald2877]

It was a gift that I grew up with elderly grandparents from Ashe County, NC. My grandfather was born in 1886 and he loved telling his stories. I know that I am likely the last member of my family who will care about the past. It is sad.

[@hot88s23]

You probably drove by the house of Sidna Allen.

[@jaguarsky55]

@@hot88s23 I don't know, I only remember that it kind of sat on a bit of a rise sort of by itself. Big ol' Victorian looking place in not so great shape. Of course that was about 65 years ago so my memory isn't what it used to be.

[@hot88s23]

@@jaguarsky55 Your memory is pretty accurate. They're trying to restore it now.

[@jaguarsky55]

@@hot88s23 I'm really happy to hear that. I hate that so many of those old places go to seed. It always breaks my heart.

[@faeriefire99]

I was very surprised to see this story. I'm a native, not just of Carroll County, but Hillsville, and a distant decedent of the Allens. The Sydney Allen shootout is a story everyone hears at some point. Most of our county events are held on Main Street, in front of the courthouse where the holes are still visible. This was a fantastic summary, well made, and historically as accurate as possible. Tha k you for telling it!

[@UnknownUzer]

My father's family are from an area near Hillsview and as a kid I visited the courthouse where this occurred I still have the book i got from there that tells the story of the massacre. I always view it as local history, so I was stunned to see it featured here. Thanks you for bringing this to the attention of a new generation and for teaching me more about my local history than I knew.

[@joethebassplayer]

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[@davidthomas4645]

I have studied history for 55 years and you are the best narrator and story teller ever. What a great story.

[@albruckelmeyer1417]

I lived in Fries , Virginia for many years and the Allen clan was one the first history lessons I learned about the area when I moved there .

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The Titanic tie-in had flavors of Paul Harvey when he did his radio program in the 70's and 80's called "The Rest Of The Story". How many of you remember that? Hum ??? . :)

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LIGO I do😊

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Good Day!

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[@davidperry970]

My great-great grandfather, Peter Scott was one of the two deputies sent to NC to retrieve the Allen boys. The story has changed hands many times in a 100 years but the account given here is pretty good. Hard to believe that so many guns were allowed into the courthouse.

[@boboutelama5748]

We should do it today. You know... second amendment. ^^

[@davidfw190]

So very true. People could carry there guns into court a long time before this @@boboutelama5748

[@brainfreeze44131]

Would you want to be on the jury of a gang member?

[@gregdavis19]

david perry I’m glad your great great grandpa wasn’t harmed.

[@Seadog..C5]

2nd amendment

[@chrissherer2047]

Thanks!

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Thank you!

[@robertansley6331]

You know it’s not easy to find relevant images to place on your timeline. But what I really appreciate about your work versus other story tellers is that you don’t grab a bunch of stock photos from shutterstock that have nothing to do with the story just to fill it out. No dogs playing poker or still frames from Western movies. And your stories are well written and interesting!

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Just discovered your channel. That was fascinating. It was also well told and well illustrated.

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And unlike a lot of channels, Mr. History Guy never rely on irrelevant stock videos. He is like a great high school history teacher, whom's history telling in class even the worst and rowdiest students perk up their ears and listen.

[@o2tank046]

I live in Carroll County, VA and the court house and Allen house are still standing and very much monuments to this day. They represent a horrible past but a history no less.

[@cardboardguy1444]

Ever been to the museum at the courthouse?

[@jt6366]

o2tank 04 perhaps horrible events are represented, but as stated in the video, it’s representative of the changing times. An era and paradigm shift in the publics frontier mentality in that place at that time. Looking back we are often highly sensitive to certain issues because of our political climate, but the people living then were more akin to war hardened soldiers who get in fist fights for the sheer joy of it. I love the history of your area and county as colorful as it is.

[@sebione3576]

Have you seen the bullet holes?

[@dannyl2598]

@@sebione3576 I can show you two in the stairs on the right.

[@bobl5121]

I grew up in the Hillsville area back in the 50's thru a good portion of the 70's. I remember hearing a lot of what was discussed in this video in private conversations among family and friends since the wounds had not healed completely during this time. I left the area in the late 70's and haven't lived there since. So I'm not exactly sure how the people in the area feel about this event today. Thanks for the video!!

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I don't know why youtube told me to watch this, but glad I did. Amazing story telling and editing.

[@MrPoupard]

Completely unknown to me. Interesting. Rabid self interest, fierce family loyalty, violence, intimidation, corruption of officials - the usual modus operandi of thugs throughout history.

[@drizler]

MrPoupard Not much different than most mafia factions and similar wannabe thug families.

[@anstef1485]

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[@ShellyCline]

I don't think there was a whole lot of family loyalty involved. After all, they were always shooting each other!!!!

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I have worked on an MA in History, now working on my Ph.D, in Physics. You are a tremendous teacher, and I do take mental notes. Some topics ara a bit esoteric for me, but your presentation is warm, friendly, and most importantly, informative. Well done.

[@kellybreen5526]

I finally got around to watching this episode. Every one of your "snippets of forgotten history" are just pure gold.

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You're history is absolutely amazing. I have a degree in history from the university of Ottawa, Canada, 2003. Your episodes are by far better than any single class I ever took at university.

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You are history is absolutely amazing? How about "Your history..."?

[@retrophone5249]

2 fun facts: First off this is still a contentious subject in Carrol County and descendants of the Allen family will still argue about what happened. Secondly, the detective agency employed by the state of Virginia were from the Baldwin-Felts Detective agency, the same agency that eight years later was involved in the Matewan Massacre. This incident led to the Battle of Blair Mountain, the largest labor uprising in the US.

[@dukecraig2402]

The Baldwin-Felts detective agency got their clocks rightfully cleaned in Matewan.

[@klaus3794]

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[@TheTomBevis]

I'd bet that the Allen's are republicans, now.

[@Theonixco]

The Matewan masscre would be a nice one to cover as well, The sheriff in that story, was a cousin of the branch of the feuding Hatfields

[@brittanymoldovan4735]

Im a Hillsville resident . My husband is working on the renovation of the Allen House !! Moldovan Masonry 😀

[@dankirchner5352]

Doing a great job I may say being from Chicago moving here ..the culture here is soo Deep in history an seeing the court house in hillsville im in galax now with my wife an love the stories just like Chicago an to have a grandpa who was a police officer an busted BIG AL'S HIDE OUTS SEEMS TO MAKE MY LIFE COMPLETE HERE WITH HISTORY 👍👍

[@mechellturner3915]

its a beautiful House. My great grandpa Tate hid them in NC granny Ollie fed them. Its still a big battle.

[@ubisoftlikcotton3447]

Cool history love the flea market!

[@DublinBloodUSA]

Brittany Moldovan that’s my moms side

[@RickJames-xy6io]

Mechell Turner I love this story! I wish we could go back in time. These men are legends. Never submit to the law! A lot of outlaws lived ethically but not lawfully. There is a big difference!

[@Hoosier_Boy]

This video helped me realize that we have powerful families like the Allen's in every county in the country.

[@luckyb3859]

Mr. Smith goes to Washington, too.

[@justanothername5199]

@@m_pavia9456 what are you saying? It could be worse so forget about it? Why don't you stay on topic and discuss the problems IN the us instead of distracting? Who cares about the problems of people who lived 30 years ago 10000miles away? Why the whataboutery? Did your feelings get hurt?

[@johnathanturner5242]

Well my family isn't that powerful any more we branched of to become docters, healers, construction workers, automotive repairman, and even business men

[@Section5_CdnIntelService]

@@m_pavia9456 Ultra Capitalists like Trump and the Koch Brothers are just as evil as any Communists.

[@maestrovso]

There are still a lot of white settlers' descendents have attitude like the Allens. Most people don't know, Germans consist of the largest immigrant group of United States.

[@muffassa6739]

I love watching your documentaries nothing like this is on TV. I've heard about this tragedy before. But your channel is the best.

[@johnnyquest3707]

I first read about this is a book called Fired In Anger. It told the story of the courthouse massacre and showed the S&W Perfected Model .38 Floyd used. It shows how lethal the relatively mild .38 S&W caliber (not .38 Special) can be. Great video about a little known topic.

[@groermaik]

There are still areas in this country that a name can be all the reason someone doesn't get charged/punished for something anyone else would surely be prosecuted.

[@TehOldGamer]

If that name is Clinton.

[@groermaik]

Different areas, different names. Someones kid will drive drunk and cause property damage, but not get charged. Someone could beat the sh!t out of someone, but if they had the right name, it would be noted as "boys will be boys."

[@TehOldGamer]

@@Raging S Yeh, fuck due process. amirite?

[@TehOldGamer]

@Raging S Except Juanita Broderick told multiple people *at the time* who corroborate her story to this day. So no comparison at all. Unable to understand how evidence and due process work much?

[@brainfreeze44131]

Problem is, he was not under investigation for a crime, but for a life time appointment to a job that he is unlikely to ever be fired from. The question is did he lie under oath when he testified before the senate? Was there an actual investigation into the allegations? I doubt he could withstand the same investigations that the Clinton's have had to endure.

[@dillonsurratt]

I live in hillsville VA! Pretty dope we are getting noticed on KZbin

[@CpnCornDog]

Thank you so much for your videos!!!

[@Murph52]

Another fascinating look at lost history. Thank you so much.

[@craigkdillon]

Like so many of your historical snippets, this, too, deserves a movie.

[@Nonsensical_Mecha]

Thank you for doing this one, and so quickly!

[@timrose5740]

"Doesn't say nothing about you coming out of it"...CLASSIC!!!

[@guystewart8468]

Interesting ! I am related to the Allen clan and still learning the history of the Stewarts , Allens , etc. Thanks for another great history lesson !

[@fatboyrowing]

Once again your research and story-telling kept me glued to the screen. Thank THG!

[@chekaschmeka4283]

What's an amazing selection for today. Thank you.

[@davidcopperfield-notthemag397]

Feuding old time sociopaths. I have often wondered if sociopathy was a modern day tendency or when it became noticeable. I can see that in 1912 there were sociopaths roaming!

[@katherineirving7189]

Your right. Sociopaths, Psychopaths, serial killers, serial rapists, etc can be traced back to the 9th.Century. However, they used words like madness, maniacal and possession. Though hard to find, there are manuscripts that speak of these hazards long before the words Psychiatric, etc came into existence.

[@drizler]

Katherine Irving you forgot one other word, “Conquerer”.

[@katherineirving7189]

@@drizler The definition of the word Conquerer is a double-edge sword. It can represent good or bad tendencies and mindset.

[@katherineirving7189]

Forgot to add... Evil never conquers, it only silences.

[@katherineirving7189]

@Henryk Gödel There have been a precious few good/honest Politicians over the centuries. Unfortunately, they are usually forced out of politics or, end up dead from some strange/coincidental murder. Sadly, the world needs politicians, it just sucks that 90% of them are crooked or become crooked.

[@Dsdcain]

I'll give it another view. I really do appreciate the work you put into these videos. Thanks. *:)*

[@eNodeTG]

Why was it reuploaded? Share the secrets :)

[@Dsdcain]

Because he made a Titanic mistake. Wrong date of sinking.

[@eNodeTG]

What a tragic error! The History Guy, we implore you to throttle down your upload speeds so you can catch such obstacles in time. ;-)

[@eNodeTG]

Did the corn husk have the appearance of genitalia? Was that why it was taken down? Details, please. It's for a report.

[@haleyw600]

In the 80s my father was friends with a boy who's family owned the Allen House. They would use it to have house parties. They are renovating the house now. The house is too gorgeous and has a lot of history to be deteriorating.

[@barbarahawks3831]

As far as i know victor allen owns the Allens house, hes no boy not even 8n the 80s

[@stuartharper3968]

Another great from this world class historian. The scope of topics is amazing!!

[@russwoodward8251]

Excellent research and story telling. Thanks again!

[@jt6366]

I’ll echo the sentiment regarding the “history channel”. What you’re doing is excellent, well done, and well presented. The “history channel” would do well to tell us history. Not ancient aliens or whatever malarkey they conjure up these days.

[@christopherneelyakagoattmo6078]

"It don't say nothin' 'bout you comin' out." "Uh, Yeah. I don't see no moonshine. Have a good one Mr. Allen."

[@andrewinbody4301]

hahahaha

[@TheCramMichael]

Badass!

[@justinpipes85]

I can just imagine that officer yelling "wagons clear!" Or looking down at the warrant " well, fuck, I guess it sure dont say I'll be coming out... move along."

[@elixtido1448]

How about a .38 special to the sternum and placing a shitty revolver in the hood's hand??

[@SeeItShowIt]

Love this video. Jack Allen is my 2x great grandfather.

[@raybeattie985]

I really like your style and presentation..thank you for what you do..I just can't understand why anyone would thumbs down this..baffling!

[@numberslettersstuff]

Thank you for your uploads. We learn so much thanks to you. Be blessed.

[@joshuahasson9687]

Excellent telling of this history. It would’ve been icing on the cake if you had mentioned that a great grand nephew of Floyd Allen is the legendary retired Virginia Tech football Coach Frank Beamer.

If you haven't done a video on the Long clan and political dynasty in Louisiana, you should do one. Earl Long was an infamous orator whose silver tongue could weave blue language, or at least innuendo, into almost any situation. He was governor of Louisiana three times. Non-consecutively though, because the state had passed a constitutional amendment to prevent consecutive terms for their governors after suffering through the shenanigans of Earl's older brother, Huey P. Long. Their youngest brother, "Doc" Long was the longest serving Representative from Louisiana in the history of the state. He was still in Congress in the 1980's, serving as the head of one of the Committees that Charlie Wilson was on funding the Muj in Afghanistan in their fight against the Soviet Union. There is so much more to their story, so I'll leave you with a quote, "When I die, bury me in Louisiana so that I can continue to take part in electoral politics." -Governor Earl Long.

[@Paladin1873]

Dead people voting in Louisiana is a Long tradition. :)

[@XxpauldadudexX]

The Long clan, "a political dynasty" is what makes a mockery of democracy.

[@dennisriblett4622]

Good ol Kingfish

[@3363662902]

*I live 27 mi. from Hillsville, VA and never knew this.*

[@ThePauliebuck]

To not know about this and live just 27 miles away you must of had your head up your rear your intire live, no one could possibly be that stunned

[@3363662902]

@@ThePauliebuck I moved here in 2003. Also I'm a truck driver. I'm only home 2 days a week. When I'm home, I like to be home lol

[@captainamerica6525]

Amazing! Thank you for this bit of history.

[@printisdead1983]

Its beautiful up there. Im from Kentucky. But its got nothing on the blueridge mountain area of carrol county

[@brucebenson2835]

"this piece of paper entitles you to go in that wagon, but it doesn't say you're coming out"..... DUDE!!!!! That line right there..... I would just leave that man alone....

[@nikki162412]

It's best to listen to a man who's been shot 13 times and live to tell about it lol

[@andrewjackson2011]

There are bull shit complete bollocks stories like that everywhere.

[@Jive33]

That’s when you arrest him on the spot for threatening an officer.

[@moonmunster]

I would have shot Allen dead, right there where he stood - next to his wagon.

[@johnnyblaze4546]

@@Jive33 yeah just like that arrest a guy who been in war countless gun fights and been shot 13 times. I bet he would make your head into a canoe

[@kholt275]

Loved this story. I think there are still some remnants of that clanishness here in rural NC and rural Va.

[@TheMenon49]

Your videos are just superb! Compliments and greetings from faraway India!

[@melodytate4501]

I'm so glad someone finally did a video of this event...I grew up in Mt Airy NC and am a Distant Relative of The Allen Family....Thank You So Much For Doing This...The Allen's Were Railroaded...As All of Us Feel...Great Story...Thank You Again....

[@dr.lyleevans6915]

Dobson here

[@luminair11]

This has got to be movie making material! Well done and interesting.......thank you!

[@anthonygreene5560]

History Guy, man you always got something good. Thank you bro. And that mustach on my man Floyd is epic

[@timbentle]

History Guy, bravo! Another excellent installment! My opinion is opposite of what I normally say: longer. While I normally say shorten your feature. In your case I would like to see some longer videos in addition to what you normally do. Keep doing these short ones but add a few longer ones. I hope you will consider this a critique...not a criticism. Thanks for your very good work!

[@torgeirbrandsnes1916]

Holy cow! Great vlog as always! What was Al Capones motto, « A smile will sometimes get you what you want. A smile and a gun will always get what you want!» I am not sure it was like this word for word, but damn close anyway. Lol!

[@lesnodes5767]

You do a fantastic job with history sir. I watched Soapy and the 1912 massacre. I am now on a mission to watch all of your history pieces. Fantastic channel.

[@jamesandrew1117]

Perfect length. Please keep up the good work! Informative and entertaining!

[@lauriemarie6902]

I just have to agree with your assessment of the perfect length. Philadelphia USA

[@barrylitchfield250]

I watched the video and was side tracked by a trip to the dollar store. I got back to finish watching the video to find it had been taken down. I'm glad I checked back again! This story reminds me of the way they run things in Chicago.

[@TheHistoryGuyChannel]

I had to make a fix to the last five seconds.

[@daytonaflorida2247]

Was it about the Titanic Date?

[@barrylitchfield250]

The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered - Hey, no problem.... I saw it show up again and everything is back to normal. I was a little worried that the Allen Clan had made you take down the video at gunpoint!

[@asully3006]

Funny! :)

[@WierdSpookyDude]

THG is my favorite KZbin web site. I'm sure you do a lot of research to get accurate historical accounts, but sometimes things just get very murky, especially where war among blood clans is concerned. Keep up the Great Work!!! Looking forward to your next episode of 'The History Guy'.

[@garomcfbgdd3211]

This bit of history would make a great movie

[@tylerkimble715]

They did a reenactment and play a couple of years ago. They have tried for along time to get something going but it has always sputtered out.

[@daleross9357]

Garomcfbgdd absolutely the gang from tombstone and others

[@bentalexranebundgaard4867]

it has been made released in 2011, it is called "Murder at the courthouse"

[@jondoes8222]

They were going to make a Hollywood movie of it but it got knocked.

[@Mortimermanto]

The Bill Nye of History = The History Guy. Good stuff. Need more of this.

[@catsordogs_lh]

Im a pretty big fan of anything history, particularly American history, and this was a new one for me. I have so much to learn, this was a GREAT piece, my jaw was on the floor for most of it, thank you so much for sharing, Im a very big fan of the channel and its host!! Keep 'em coming, bravo!!! 👏👏👏

[@haledwards4642]

There were a lot of courthouse feuds around the South way back in the day.

[@smc1942]

Such behavior isn't limited to the South. I've lived all over the country, & I see this "above the law" behavior EVERYWHERE!!! Alaska & New Mexico are among the worst. Chicago is notorious for corruption! But it's EVERYWHERE!

[@haledwards4642]

@@smc1942 I'm sure that you're right. But, as a native Southerner, I would hear of various stories of old emanating from a courthouse dispute through word of mouth.

[@smc1942]

@@haledwards4642 ; I'm not saying it didn't. I grew up in (arguably) the most corrupt county in Texas. The Feds have been there more than once! A Sheriff shot himself, rather than face murder-for-hire charges! I've seen BAD things happen there. But as work took me across the country, I saw such things everywhere I went. Where I live today is over a thousand miles from where I grew up. And this place is rife with corruption. If you have the right name, you can do anything here. If not, you'll get a ticket for jaywalking. I know first-hand this kind of corruption is all across the country. Been there. Seen it.

[@jimcockburn3563]

Floyd Allen the 20th centurys "Devil Anse"Hatfield.

[@f.wallace8969]

I find it hilarious(and insane) that Floyd lured in his grieving brother, while on what he thought was his death bed, just to try and shoot him. The man was a complete nut case. Goes to show you, family loyalty should have its limits. Or else one psycho will drag everyone else down.

[@vernonpennington8896]

Clans doesn't always mean KKK.It a old word for many family members living close to onanother ! My Grandfather on the Irish side of my folks were Boot loggers as teens to make money in the Okla Great smoky mountains! Fast trucks and fast cars Double gass tanks fonny Trunk beds filled with the bottles and jars of Okie Moon shine!

[@oldhardmanjohnson6585]

It's a Southern thing Personal grievance and honor offended has priority

[@noheader]

@@oldhardmanjohnson6585 I am not shocked how southern men react like petty little girls, how ironic the Allen family even bothered to go to church when they are a monument to amorality

[@njpaddler]

Evidence of in-breeding ???

[@willgetbettereventually124]

This applies to the times we are living in.

[@kentpickles9578]

I enjoy every one of your segments. I am an old widower (that is not a beg) You offer me a bit of time every day to learn.

[@Seadog..C5]

I truly thank you so much for your podcast,, our last few Generations believe that history started with them

[@TheNotBees]

Everyone thinks that all the time.

[@michaelfitzgerald434]

Sadly, so very, very true!

[@jeje1020]

Well they've definitely been brainwashed to believe it should be erased because it was just so awful. I don't think they even teach a factual American or World history anymore.

[@anitaking4674]

Harmon's Museum (in nearby Woodlawn, Virginia) has lots of content on this event along with Baldwin Felts Detective Agency.

[@daniellerowland6400]

The sydna allen house opened a museum as well

[@jesseeburcham4135]

Anita, the Baldwin Felts Detective Agency was also involved in the Ludlow Massacre here in Colorado.

[@joeatwell2644]

Also the best private owned local area museum around.

[@akbuilder7626]

Nothing good ever happens at a husking bee. Its like a Chuck-E-Cheese in the ghetto.

[@Ruby321123]

I don't have enough info on either to offer an opinion, but am very interested in hearing your theory as to why this is, if you would be so very kind as to offer it.

[@Ruby321123]

@Bill Wade Yep. I live in a pair of sister-cities. The larger one (mine) is predominantly ghettoville, though the city government is always launching largely unsuccessful projects to make it look more like the other one, which is a preppy college town. The preppy college town is the one with the Chuck-E-Cheese.

[@stormytooman1947]

People are asking you to explain your statement.

[@bobbierobinson6269]

@@stormytooman1947 people have no sense of humor 🙄

[@leonardcooper4257]

i so enjoy your clips of history! it seems to fit you very well! looking forward to seeing more! THANK YOU.

[@artkoenig9434]

A truly fascinating story! Thank you!

[@EDraus]

My Grandfather got arrested for "Transporting and Abetting" in Carrol County. Everyone carried a .32. I have my Grandfathers and Grandmothers .32. My mother was born there she's 103 this year 2020.

[@appalachianunderground8474]

Awesome, God bless her

[@smoking347]

This is my hometown. I worked at Nuckolls Drug in front of the courthouse when I was in high school. We sold books about the tragedy.

[@jameswalker3073]

Who is this man?he his brilliant thanks for one of the best history lesson have had since school....great video.....

[@jehovahuponyou]

THESE ARE SOME GREAT HISTORIC VIDEOS - KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK - BRAVO!

[@mrfarnz]

So glad I came across this. Thoroughly enjoyable, well presented. Glad to join the group. Thanks for your excellent work.

[@marbleman52]

My ancestors were among the very first permanent White settlers along the White River here in N. Central Arkansas in 1816. They had to clear land and build houses and battle thieves and survive floods and harsh Winters and hot, humid Summers, and establish a community. They became prominent judges & lawyers and sheriffs and a preacher or two, and successful business men and were very well respected by everyone...BUT...they never resorted to tactics of murder and intimidation to get their way. These Allen men sound like psychotics or psychopaths. And it's not that they were 'rugged individuals'..they were just deranged and cruel and mean people. They would have been quickly run off and maybe killed by way of self defense if they had tried that around my ancestors. This was definitely an interesting story, but they get NO respect or admiration from me.

[@bluecollar58]

marbleman52 , well said

[@pulaski1]

@marbleman - with all due respect to you and your ancestors, I am highly sceptical that in the time before law enforcement in remote and rural areas was adequately resourced and fairly administered, dominant influence over communities by powerful men and their families wasn't the norm, at least outside of the very few major cities that existed at that time.

[@marbleman52]

LtCol....I want to be sure I understand what you said...that in the remote & rural areas of our country's beginnings, that the dominant influence ( meaning laws & law enforcement..? ) WAS by the powerful families..is that correct? I will agree to that, in general terms. I would want to be careful, however, when saying "powerful' men and their families, that the understood implication of that term 'powerful' did not automatically refer to unscrupulous and dirty-dealing, violent men....such as the Allens. Yes, our Country's History certainly has plenty of examples of these kinds of men and their treacherous, greedy influences upon the local population, but I believe that there were also plenty of good and just and powerful men and families that really cared for their communities. I know how my ancestors behaved and how important they were to the local community and the economy...and it sure wasn't like the Allens. I appreciate your input, it makes for an enjoyable and civilized discussion...thanks.

[@pulaski1]

I was trying (while trying to be brief) to suggest that men and families who had dominant influence over their communities in the era before more enlightened approaches to law enforcement, often, likely invariably, fell short by some degree, of our expectations today. Sometimes they would have fallen short by a little, sometimes by more, and sometimes by a LOT. Bear in mind that horrible cases of corrupt and unlawful influence over law enforcement and the judicial system in the US wasn't uncommon in many rural areas of the South as recently as the 1960's.

[@richardputz3233]

Your right ,52 a couple of degrees more and they would have been the James Game only with crapper attitudes.

[@brabham74]

Another first rate history lesson. Thank you!

[@FlexBeanbag]

Agreed! kzbin.infoBmc9NFfhx74?feature=share

[@matthew2h2o40]

It started out with a kiss How did it end up like this (It was only a kiss)

[@catsordogs_lh]

But oh wait, he did miss.... And now we just have this.

[@BrucesPhonograph]

This is the price of destiny

[@foamer443]

@@markdavis7397 Refrain (It was only a kiss)

[@ralphcantrell3214]

WOW! Talk about being willing to die for what you believe in. Those dudes were TOUGH. And thanks very much for all the wonderful research and fine presentation that put it all in a more complete perspective than I have ever heard. Subscribed.

[@steventhorson4487]

Fascinating story!! Thank you, history guy.

[@123456wasp]

You ALWAYS have such good videos. Thank you for your hard work! 🍺😎👍

[@katemaloney4296]

"The warrant says you can enter; it doesn't say anything about you leaving." Right or wrong, the man found the loophole.

[@BrightSeaStar]

But.......... a loophole punishable by death !

[@dukecraig2402]

Great video as usual, do one on Rick Rescorla, his history definitely needs to be remembered, he's on the cover of the book "We were Soldiers once and young", he died in the South Tower on 9/11.

[@ronreuwer5265]

Keep it up i enjoy your little snippets

[@pamelahilbert8070]

I lived near Hillsville for years and have heard of this. Thank you for the details.

[@VsixtyFive]

A good story that was off to a corny start, went out with a bang, ending with a shocker!