Really glad that I bumped into this video! Such an informative video with clear and logical historical timeline and explanation.
@dragonseye64033 жыл бұрын
I love the materials you used, really brings the story to life!
@BygoneChina3 жыл бұрын
Your feedback is much appreciated!
@yanyaporcelaininchina882 жыл бұрын
Blue and white porcelain is an eternal classic, and Chinese porcelain has also directly set off the trend of European aristocrats drinking tea. In the 17th century, during the reign of Emperor Kangxi of the Qing Dynasty in China, a missionary brought the secrets of porcelain making back to Europe, and since then European porcelain craftsmanship has undergone tremendous improvement.
@BygoneChina2 жыл бұрын
This is a pretty good summary of the introduction of porcelain from China into Europe. I tried to cover this development in detail in the documentary - do you think that I did the story justice?
@carloscecilio7725 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your excellent presentation and gorgeous illustrations. Hartelijk dank !
@blueboxjuggler3 жыл бұрын
Great channel, very glad I came across this video, super thorough and interesting, please keep uploading!
@BygoneChina3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the support! I have plenty of interesting videos planned, so stay tuned!
@BygoneChina3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Please remember to like and subscribe, and let me know what you liked and didn't in the comments!
@InfernoXV2 жыл бұрын
that’s a very odd pronunciation of the word ‘porcelain’…
@firstlast54544 ай бұрын
Porceleen
@EsChineseClass3 жыл бұрын
Your video is really amazing. I can feel you really love Chinese culture. Thank you for sharing these stories!
@BygoneChina3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I do have a strong interest in Chinese history and culture, and do my best to share it with others.
@lorenstiteler305 Жыл бұрын
Wonderfully well done
@jenhgorman7506 Жыл бұрын
This is much better than my college Chinese art history class. Keep up the great work. So interesting to see the cultural influences between the east and west.
@BygoneChina Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@elenafernandez32473 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you for sharing! 👏
@BygoneChina3 жыл бұрын
It was my pleasure!
@robertschlesinger13422 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, informative and worthwhile video.
@BygoneChina Жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert, glad you enjoyed it!
@ericswain4177Ай бұрын
The Blue Willow Porcelain British-produced plate is a good example of "Good Artist Copy, Grate Artist Steal".
@mariiie.B3 жыл бұрын
I love this video very much !!!
@BygoneChina3 жыл бұрын
I am so glad that you enjoyed it, I hope that you also found it educational.
@elainelee24912 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video, it's very informative.
@BygoneChina2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! I'm happy that it helped you learn more about the topic!
@echao17983 жыл бұрын
Good video with informative & clear script. However, the speech is somewhat soporific & slow. Normal speech with subtitles could be a better alternative.
@BygoneChina3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback, I will make sure to correct the speech in my future videos.
@mariatrotter6889 Жыл бұрын
Well done. Extremely infomative...love it.
@BygoneChina Жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that!
@davidjenson777310 ай бұрын
Thank you for this podcast you are so informed.
@BygoneChina9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!!
@rabbitazteca23 Жыл бұрын
I just love your documentaries!
@BygoneChina Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I am really happy that you enjoy them!
@knoore6 ай бұрын
This is beautiful! Love this!
@BygoneChina6 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@ingerchesterbrowne77135 ай бұрын
Very interesting
@andremaltais22912 жыл бұрын
It was great except for the way you say Porcelain as Porcelian, sorry, but it was too distracting, I could only get halfway through the video. My misophonia got the best of me.
@gwen5316 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! This was very useful! ❤
@BygoneChina Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad!
@schiatzeschiatze5002 Жыл бұрын
I am so enchanted by your channel. What beautiful historical content. Keep it up!
@BygoneChina Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Will do!
@makaluma3672 Жыл бұрын
Just want to add, a Jesuit missionary studied porcelain manufacture in China in secret and sent it to Europe by sea.
@BygoneChina Жыл бұрын
Very true, and then other European porcelain designers copied his work in turn!
@carpy12522 жыл бұрын
I don't even think that Chinese Willow could be attributed to the British dude after seeing the similarities.
@BygoneChina2 жыл бұрын
I think most people would agree with you, considering that they are basically the same plate.
@evanpenn1 Жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure "porcelain" has three syllables 😄
@grandmabente123 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely wonderful. Thank you. I have used your video to illustrate ''What China was so ahead''... on my channel Grandma Bente's New Adventures...
@MrManny0753 жыл бұрын
From a BBC docomentary on youtube TREASUREAS OF CHINESE PORCELAIN PART 1 TO 4
@BygoneChina3 жыл бұрын
Did that BBC documentary direct you to my video on Porcelain? You must have a strong interest in Chinese porcelain if you watched both. What is your favourite style of Chinese porcelain?
@gostaknochenhauer3978 Жыл бұрын
I wanted to see this video, but the horrible, loud, and unneccessary music overlay makes it impossible
@samsun01 Жыл бұрын
like your Mom, son?
@bananarepublic72043 жыл бұрын
Do you own all that porcelain?
@BygoneChina3 жыл бұрын
The British and Dutch porcelain has been in the family for several generations, and the Chinese Porcelain I recently bought at an auction.
@derekpennington83712 жыл бұрын
it is pronounced Por ce lain
@mikewilliams4438 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, although it seems I've been pronouncing porcelain the wrong way.
@tlee38382 жыл бұрын
As the world turns.
@sawahtb Жыл бұрын
Drugs always sell, even tho they kill.
@beseggg2 жыл бұрын
oh my god the way you pronounce porcelain is atrocious 😭😭😭😭😭
@leallan698 ай бұрын
History demonstrates that European imitation began much earlier than in other regions.
@ReefingDude3 жыл бұрын
sounds like a bias china boy
@BygoneChina3 жыл бұрын
I try to remain as objective and unbiased as possible, although sometimes my passion for a particular topic might make me appear partial.
@ReefingDude3 жыл бұрын
@@BygoneChina I honestly enjoyed the video and I did learn a lot from it. thank you for the video
@tlee38382 жыл бұрын
Can't admit you guys copy from us. Haha!
@oranje29742 жыл бұрын
talk normal
@umnuaysaehau875 Жыл бұрын
Porcelain is pronounced ˈpɔːr.səl.ɪn, not porcelian. Qing is pronounced ching, not king. Otherwise, a great documentary.
@theacefacejames2 жыл бұрын
Why are you pronouncing Porcelain like you do?!?
@juliaf67622 жыл бұрын
Very nice documentary. It was fascinating and well explained. What are your sources, and what books/bibliography would you recommend? thx!
@rtlinson3 жыл бұрын
Why do you say porcele-an?
@samknowles8333 жыл бұрын
Next you should do a video on the history of tea
@BygoneChina3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback, I definitely plan on doing a video on that topic in the future!
@graemewatson2296 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I credit my interest in Chinese culture to my grandmother's Willow Pattern plates. I lived in Peking in '79 - '90, then Hong Kong and now in Taiwan where the real Chinese culture is being maintained. As a Linguistics grad with Chinese as my main foreign language, I just have to ask where you got the pronunciation of 清朝 as Ting Dynasty? Also I see a few others have mentioned your pronunciation of porcelain! My ears are in pain from hearing your particular sounding of the word.... about 2,500 times. A pity that it is the key word in your whole monologue. Anyway, I am genuinely interested to find out your language background. Be great if you could read this and reply.
@BygoneChina Жыл бұрын
Hi Graeme, Thanks for sharing your story. It must have been fascinating living in mainland China between 1979 and 1990 - it's changed so much since then. Did you collect any photographs during your time there? Regarding 清朝, it obviously should be pronounced "Qing Chao", although my pronunciation is slightly off so it sounds closer to "Ting Chao". The "Qi" enunciation is especially challenging for non-native speakers, and I hadn't spoken Mandarin for a while when I made the video, so it was not very accurate. The "Porcelain" used in the video is just my pronunciation. By the way, my slow (relatively) clear pronunciation throughout my videos is intended to make the content easier for non-native speakers to understand. A lot of KZbinrs speak very fast, which can be difficult for those unfamiliar with the language to discern the words. Having learnt a foreign language myself, I can appreciate that rapid dialogue can be hard for listeners to catch. Therefore, I try to make the content as accessible as possible by delivering in an artificially slow style. I am considering changing this soon though (and just speak standard pace), as I have received considerable negative feedback on this aspect. What do you think?
@numuves3 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid
@BygoneChina3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the positive feedback, and welcome to my Channel!
@greggmaflin60193 жыл бұрын
Its great except for the way you say Porcelain as Porcelian ? Which is very odd
@BygoneChina3 жыл бұрын
Hi Gregg, thanks for the comment. You are not alone in thinking the pronunciation of Porcelain is a little different (someone else also mentioned this), but it's just how I pronounce the word - hopefully it doesn't detract from your enjoyment of the video!
@SHERMA.3 жыл бұрын
he is pronouncing it wrong its as simple as that
@Gammaray7 Жыл бұрын
I just came across this video, and I really enjoy it. It’s very interesting and informational. Keep up the good work!
@journeysintohistoryandnatu73503 жыл бұрын
Great introduction to porcelain!
@BygoneChina3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that you liked it!
@marinaprati7152 Жыл бұрын
This is such a great video for those of us who love chinese porcelain. thank you
@Tiberiotertio Жыл бұрын
Have seen your video now, very nicely made and informative! I have the pleasure of having two pieces that are from around the Kraak-ware times. Both pieces recovered from ship wrecks and three pieces of Delft copies.
@TheScreamingFrog916 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy this series of videos.
@itznoxy719314 күн бұрын
Great video. Well explained
@BygoneChina10 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@johnralphdedios94812 жыл бұрын
Great delivery of ideas! I learned a lot!
@marianelamunoz16703 жыл бұрын
Felicitaciones por su relato.Extraordinaria narración.
@BygoneChina3 жыл бұрын
Muchas gracias, su apoyo es muy apreciado. Espero que también disfrutes de mis otros videos.
@hornomat60993 жыл бұрын
many thanks
@BygoneChina3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@archiedalАй бұрын
Thank you
@heartSLB2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, I learned a lot. Interesting to see how sadly the British made porcelain common. Nowadays people don’t give it value anymore to what was once apparently a luxury
@indus7841 Жыл бұрын
How is it sad that something that was once a luxury exclusive to the ultrarich (ultra ultra rich) is now something that can be enjoyed by everyone?
@russellseitz3 жыл бұрын
What about the weathered feldspar? Chemical illiteracy disqualifes the speaker.
@BygoneChina3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for leaving a comment, it's always great to receive some constructive criticism. This video focused primarily on the history of porcelain production, specifically the development of porcelain in China, the trade of porcelain between the east and west, and how European producers imitated Chinese designs. I decided to provide only a simplified overview of the porcelain manufacture process in order to give viewers a basic understanding of the core elements in it's creation, and to highlight the production challenges faced in the different regions of the world. If I were to make a more in-depth documentary focusing on the manufacturing process in more detail, I would make sure to include the role of Feldspar in the manufacture of porcelain. Aside from this issue, did you enjoy the rest of the documentary?
@slevinchannel758911 ай бұрын
I like Isekai and Time-Travel so i wonder oddly-specific this: Whats the best production-method for porcellan that is do-able if you get transported with modern knowledge into ancient Time??
@BygoneChina10 ай бұрын
Very interesting question, although I don't think that I am qualified to answer this question - I report what occurred in the past, but don't have an in-depth understanding of the porcelain production process.
@slevinchannel758910 ай бұрын
@@BygoneChina Anyhting helps. Everyhting that could be summarized under "Knowledge ancient people WISHED they knew" or "Knowledge YOU would wish you have if you suddenly time-travelled!"
@slevinchannel758910 ай бұрын
@@BygoneChina Well?
@slevinchannel75899 ай бұрын
@@BygoneChina Aaaandddd?
@紫檀地板 Жыл бұрын
the background music is very noisy
@BygoneChina Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, others have also felt the same way.
@robert-skibelo9 ай бұрын
Quite good content, though short on technical detail about the chemical composition of porcelain and the techniques for working it. The constant music droning in the background was a bad idea. It adds nothing and is just an annoying distraction (at least for people who have an ear for music).
@jessienielsen86057 ай бұрын
Fantastic presentation. I learned so much.
@BygoneChina6 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@YotamGuttman3 ай бұрын
ok lets talk about how you pronounce PORCELAIN a minute?
@mindorientalceramicarts18273 жыл бұрын
敏 德 堂 古 陶 瓷 MIND ORIENTAL CERAMIC ARTS - KZbin
@BygoneChina3 жыл бұрын
您的频道很有意思!
@mindorientalceramicarts18273 жыл бұрын
@@BygoneChina 感谢您的关注和点评!
@totoys15732 ай бұрын
the time when Chinese products are the ones being copied😂😂
@robigalia11 ай бұрын
Great video! However, your dating of that Spode cup and saucer is off by 100 years. Spode went out of business in 1833, and was acquired by Copeland. The McKinley Tariff Act in the USA required the name of the country, hence the adoption of "England." Your cup and saucer were made after 1890. The mark on the bottom of your cup was used from 1906 and later.
@BygoneChina10 ай бұрын
Fascinating! Thank you so much for highlighting this, you have provided some much needed additional clarity around the origins of this porcelain set.
@suesmith96659 ай бұрын
I feel the pain....
@danielsu43082 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@frikandelkroket9335 Жыл бұрын
The Dutch helped the Manchus against the Ming! Now I am really pissed.
@BygoneChina Жыл бұрын
A standalone video focusing just on this episode in Chinese history would be very interesting actually.
@jonmartindeiii962 Жыл бұрын
Times when British were the copycats
@stephenholmes5362 Жыл бұрын
Great video & I love how you pronounce “porcelain”. What is your backround?
@triconcert2 жыл бұрын
I thought I would look at the video for education. While it is informative, I was wondering why you began with English porcelain to show it was a copy of the Chinese and render your conclusion in psuedo-scientific comparisons. Your pace ... with ... all.... its...unnatural ...breaks....was .... a ...bit.....nauseating. Your extra syllable in pronouncing porcelain was quite odd and uncomfortable. Consider fixing these strange elements and re-posting. I am trying to be charitable here and hope my words are not too harsh. Thanks for the effort all the same.