What did the British loot from the Old Summer Palace in Beijing?

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Bygone China

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@pt20829
@pt20829 2 жыл бұрын
A non-Chinese revealing this side of China’s history to the English-speaking. Commendable! Thank you!
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I try to be as unbiased as possible when reporting the history!
@jertan2171
@jertan2171 2 жыл бұрын
@@BygoneChina Besides looting, there were fire set up in the summer palace.
@jertan2171
@jertan2171 Жыл бұрын
​@@TerryBell1968 There are many disgusting things besides the british looting from the old summer Palace and India. A massive sum of 45 trillion siphon from India alone. From famine that killed millions of Indians to deindustrialisation and financing for the world's imperial army, fighting in Europe and asia territory expansion enough for you to wash your dirty linen. There are many points to talk about not to mention the atrocities and racism that they inflicted on the Indian people. The Sun never set in the British Empire. Even Satan could not trust them in the dark.
@jertan2171
@jertan2171 Жыл бұрын
@@TerryBell1968 Look who's talking here: "You were complaining about British imperialism earlier", people tend to blame others for their own bad behavior, first complaining and badmouth about youtuber being half-chinese. This is a classic case of accusing others of their own shortcomings If they are lying, then they will accuse others of lying. They never take responsibility, and it’s always someone else's fault. It is obvious what is going on in your mind and that you are trying to hide your undesirable characteristics. We will not fall for your lies and deception.
@sandworm9528
@sandworm9528 8 ай бұрын
If you know anymore stories of westerners being insane I love finding out about them.
@tuskinekinase
@tuskinekinase 3 жыл бұрын
As a Chinese person (who lived very near the Summer Palace park, in fact my high school is right across the street), I must say, this is an extremely well-made video. It is very easy for people to know the ruin site, but the on-the-ground investigation on small, lesser-known British historical sites linked to China is something unique and invaluable. Subscribed! (Side note, when I visit museums abroad and saw a Chinese relic, I always wonder what its intended purpose was, what happened to it and how it is taken from its home, and somehow feel a sense of sympathy and homesickness with the lifeless relic. In this special case, because the Summer Palace was so close to my high school in Beijing, I felt that the relics and I are fellow townspeople. Such strange and sad feeling...)
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment - it really pleases me to know that you liked my video and found it educational, especially because you are someone who has a personal connection with the Summer Palace! Beijing is a wonderful city, and I actually previously lived there for 3 years, staying in the Hutongs next to 什刹海. It was whilst I lived in Beijing that I had the inspiration to create this channel. In two of my earlier videos I explore the history of two of Beijing's most famous landmarks, Zhengyangmen and Tianan'men (正阳门 和 天安门), through the examination of old photographs that I have collected of them - seeing that you are from Beijing, you might also find these videos interesting. One day in the future I hope to return to Beijing to create some more videos on the history of that incredible city. Thanks also for sharing your feelings on seeing Chinese relics in museums outside China. I often have the same feeling as you when I see them - that they have been removed from their home habitat and are now lost and disconnected from their homeland. I will try and uncover some more lost Chinese relics outside China in some of my future videos, to tell their untold stories.
@bertroost1675
@bertroost1675 2 жыл бұрын
Did you go to 101? I was a teacher there for one year back in the 1990's.
@davidwoon6402
@davidwoon6402 2 жыл бұрын
Whoever is exhibiting "Chinese National Treasures" in their museums all over the world are proofs of their guilty crimes in looting China "dry"! Do the next honourable thing, in returning all illegally owned treasures back to their existing Natural Origins. Repent.. NOW!!! 😇
@safuwanfauzi5014
@safuwanfauzi5014 2 жыл бұрын
I not surprised, British did to Javanese palace to, we remember as 'Geger Sepehi" in 1812, the looting of treasure, gold, rare item, manuscript, jewelry, and burning and plunder of palace complex.
@Wbliss
@Wbliss 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t be sad , be Angry .!!
@MHDebidour
@MHDebidour 9 ай бұрын
"...One day two bandits entered the Summer Palace. One plundered, the other burned. Victory can be a thieving woman, or so it seems. The devastation of the Summer Palace was accomplished by the two victors acting jointly. Mixed up in all this is the name of Elgin, which inevitably calls to mind the Parthenon. What was done to the Parthenon was done to the Summer Palace, more thoroughly and better, so that nothing of it should be left. All the treasures of all our cathedrals put together could not equal this formidable and splendid museum of the Orient. It contained not only masterpieces of art, but masses of jewelry. What a great exploit, what a windfall! One of the two victors filled his pockets; when the other saw this he filled his coffers. And back they came to Europe, arm in arm, laughing away. Such is the story of the two bandits..." Victor Hugo
@meng-hsuanlee8543
@meng-hsuanlee8543 2 жыл бұрын
You’re channel is really good! Love the soft tone of storytelling, the nuance, humor, and accurate use of historical images. Keep up the good work!!
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate the positive feedback!
@Tricia-T1
@Tricia-T1 Жыл бұрын
Hi! Your video is so impressive and educational. Could I use it as my academic support? @@BygoneChina
@Elfan97-ec1uk
@Elfan97-ec1uk 9 ай бұрын
Being a Hongkong Chinese, I'm feeling an old wound open up in my heart that's long forgotten ! As a result of the Opium War, Hongkong was ceded to the Brits n was only returned to my Motherland in 1997! Despite the passing of years, sadly the Brits n its Western allies led by US have never let go of my country! Their pirate DNA is still very much alive! We must always be on guard or history will repeat itself easily! Thanks for telling the world about our suffering in the hands of the West!
@George-k6o9t
@George-k6o9t 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely correct! When the U.S. with their Anglo allies set up military bases and stationed their troops in countries next to China and sail their warships up and down next to the coast of China, what is China to do but to build up its own navy to be stronger than the 8 nations that invaded, pillaged, raped, ravished, enslaved, bankrupted and humiliated a country with 6,000 years of civilization? In the past, before the arrival of the Anglos, China was always invaded from the inland and so, built up its defenses in the Great Wall. She never thought that she would be attacked from the sea as the only country close by is Japan and they have always been pirates who were easily driven away. Fast forward through the 19th, 20th and 21st century and China has learned from the mistakes of the Qing. She has sworn "NEVER AGAIN!" and so, developed a modern army and navy with a missile force enough to scare the pants off the Anglos - who are now whining and complaining that "China is a threat" - when China was not the one that invaded their countries but the other way round. ALL Chinese who call themselves Chinese should be enraged at this hypocrisy of the West and anyone siding with the former invaders and rapists of their homeland, should be branded, traitors and turncoats against their own with no shame or pride in themselves.
@bobevans9996
@bobevans9996 8 ай бұрын
@@George-k6o9t uk racist opium genocide the chinese n 11nations gang bully war china n stole or burn everything they capture silk n tea farmers to india never to see family or home ever again they capture chinese youth n use them as soldiers n after war herd them on ships for china - ships never arrive - today the mix decendants r demanding ans opium victims lost everything n sold kids n die beggars in st they damage destroy treasures n lives - everything thoroughly for generations
@ran-z6r
@ran-z6r 3 ай бұрын
But there are still pro-independence activists in Hong Kong。I wonder why? Was education different?
@enioni716
@enioni716 2 жыл бұрын
Thr British Army too burnt down the Kangla Palace in Manipur, India during Anglo-Manipuri war of 1891.Manipuri Kingdom was used as buffer territory between British India and the Burmese Kingdom. And also Manipuri soldiers were useful as scouts and guides during the Anglo-Burmese War.. Seems burning down palaces of the defeated party was a regular norm. This leaves us with very little historical artefacts for posterity.
@ILove1DC2A
@ILove1DC2A 2 жыл бұрын
Concerning the deaths of the British hostages - At a personal level, I regret for the death of the diplomats. However, considering they were embarked on a mission to extract (my view) compensations for the opium wars, unjust wars to force open the gate of China to sell opium, they were accomplices of the evil. Let’s not put the cart before the horse to justify the looting. Everything should be understand in its overall context. In 2010, David Cameron made a visit to China. He was wearing a red poppy to honor Remembrance Day. It was tasteless because of the connotation the poppy has in China, especially with the British head of state visiting. He was asked to remove it, and refused. The least Cameron could have done was remove his poppy. The Opium Wars was injustice compounded on injustice. First the British coveted Chinese luxury goods, like tea and porcelain, for their own pleasure. Then in order to pay for these luxury goods, they smuggled in a highly addictive and destructive drug for the twofold effect of shirking their debt and ruining a generation of Chinese people. When the Qing government, like any proper government, tried to stop the poisoning of their own people, the British -ignoring all morals they praised so highly-used gunships to put a stranglehold on China in order to force ruinous “unequal treaties” on her, while doing it all in the name of “free trade.”
@54living
@54living 2 жыл бұрын
@Goosa Poosa Yes, those US & West tried to hide their barbarian acts in the past. Not only China they did but also India and Indo China regions (ASEAN). Africa too. What else?
@rupertbear6883
@rupertbear6883 2 жыл бұрын
so torturing folk to death over weeks is ok by you.. sicko ideologue..
@garychin5321
@garychin5321 2 жыл бұрын
@@54living Well; quite a lot else actually;....where do U start?!!! There is so much around the World.... See: what happened in the 1973 Oscars...This was a time when Hollywood Films and the Oscars were quite a big deal.... See; the Apologies after 50 years of the Speech made by: Sacheen Littlefeather...... (U.S. First Nation!). (She never worked again in Tinseltown!). The aging Hollywood "Actor"; John Wayne Tried to ‘Physically Assault’ Her. And had to be "Watched"; by 5 Security Personnel during the Ceremony.... But; enough of Tinseltown; what a Joke!😁 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Here are something that is really real in History; Tasmania; The British Committed all out Genocide there....See: Truganini........ Died: 8 May 1876. "The Last Tasmanian". They even had Documented Blood-Spots where they Sanctioned hunting Humans (I.e. The Aboriginal Tasmanians!).... --------------------------------------------------------------------- In the Sub-Continent Of India; Jallianwala Bagh Massacre Date: April 13, 1919. Among many, many Atrocities.... See: Stuff like "Jewel in the Crown" Etc. --------------------------------------------------------------------- As; for Africa and the Slave Trade and So on.... We will be here forever.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- As for (ASEAN) Nations. See; what they did for the French and were again Betrayed and Written out of History.... See: Travailleurs Annamites. Now; U know why the Vietnamese were so P*ssed in the Vietnam War! (The Political deal was that if they helped out the French against the Germans; the French would grant them Independence for their favour in the First World War.... But; Of Course the French Simply said that their Contribution never even happened!)..... Most Ppl; in the West don't even know this! Incidentally; 'Annam'; is the Old English Term for S.E. Asian. Thailand; Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, from me; Cameron "Former Prime Minister"; Did U know that the Badge for the C.L.C. is actually "Blue!". (Deliberately...So!) Campaign Lapel Pin 1916 to 1920. U can find it from the following site..... ensuringweremember.org.uk One thing I am really Glad about in the 3rd Decade of the 21st Century.......Britain need China more than China needs Britain...... If China wants Cutting edge Tech./Science, resources. Etc....Goto other developed nations like German. France, Holland, Italy, Scandinavia. How; times have Changed, Eh.....😃
@TheWinezen
@TheWinezen 2 жыл бұрын
LAwyers defending the Drug Cartels in the USA and Europe should use the same Defense stratedgy as the Barbaric Western Colonial Opium Dealers and see if that sticks.
@edmurks236
@edmurks236 2 жыл бұрын
@Goosa Poosa Then it should be spread more widely so the actual truth not the British sanitized rewritten version can be widely known.
@kimchiba4570
@kimchiba4570 2 жыл бұрын
Just imagine if each artefact is priced at 500 k...that would be 750 billions.. Not even counting the scrolls and calligraphies which were burnt . And finally the palace itself
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it would be interesting to attempt to calculate the exact amount that the artefacts would be worth - but I believe ultimately many of the treasures are both unique and priceless, and cannot be replaced for any amount of money
@Purwapada
@Purwapada 2 жыл бұрын
thats a meaningless and stupid thing to do. afterall ,the value added is only in todays set of value that was set by the result of british emperialism 300 years ago
@jasonshenton7680
@jasonshenton7680 8 ай бұрын
@@BygoneChina will you be asking the same from the mongals?
@celiad6012
@celiad6012 2 жыл бұрын
No wonder we weren’t taught about this ignominious period in our history lessons! I wonder what the British press of the time was saying about the “threat” China represented to us, or perhaps they didn’t bother with attempts to justify their actions in those days.
@garychin5321
@garychin5321 2 жыл бұрын
Here is something that was also NOT taught!.....Try the Chinese Labour Corp. (C.L.C). Easy film version is "Tricks On The Dead!". Modern Book Version: "Betrayed Ally": China in the Great War. Book By: Christopher Arnander and Frances Wood. And this is about European History....
@joshyeo33
@joshyeo33 2 жыл бұрын
just check the press in ANY WHITE country during the Opium war, and see for yourself how trash white culture is
@tamekahanova
@tamekahanova 2 жыл бұрын
British and looting in history are synonymous. But when talking about other countries they always feel outraged.
@johncorrall1739
@johncorrall1739 2 жыл бұрын
@@tamekahanova What’s the point of fighting,if you not going to steal?
@morejoy5188
@morejoy5188 2 жыл бұрын
@@johncorrall1739 Excellent point. Actually, although what Britain did was wrong China itself is built on the backs of Genocide and war. This is evidenced by changing Dynasties and the fading out of over 300 different languages that came from the various different province that have been absorbed into 1 China. Before international bodies such as the UN (to which the PRC now has alot of clout) provided laws and policies which nations have to abide by many nations including China itself.
@chongminwang
@chongminwang 2 жыл бұрын
Not only the palace was looted, in which some of those treasures are still preserved today. The bigger crime was that they burnt down the royal garden named Yuan Ming Yuan.
@tc2334
@tc2334 2 жыл бұрын
And the biggest crime is that they're not interested in returning them to the hundreds of Chinese museums where they could be preserved appreciated in the hands of the descendants of those who created them.
@zelenskythegaynazi8680
@zelenskythegaynazi8680 2 жыл бұрын
Just imagine that China send a few million soldiers to de-colonised UK and get rid of generations of war mongers and retrieve all stolen treasures not only to China but to the rest of the countries that suffered under British colonialism. Then Birmingham Palace should also be burn down and all war mongers should be put on trial starting with Liz. Immediate referendum should be held in Scotland, Ireland and Wales if they want to seek independence. The citizens of UK will also be re-educated on the colonial history and sins of their forefathers.
@morejoy5188
@morejoy5188 2 жыл бұрын
@@tc2334 Would China CCP want these given that their false narrative is SO CALLED communism ? I don't know I'm just putting it out there. Another question at the risk of 'whataboutry' is: Should China still be on a "Developing Nations" list? China now have the largest navy in the world (albeit untrained and unorganised), they have regular space expeditions and programs but unfortunately still have abject poverty.
@lapprentice
@lapprentice 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate how you guys feel that way. We Vietnamese feel the same way regarding our Vietnamese national treasure currently in the Chinese Museum. Back in the 17th century, the Ming invaded Viet Nam, and sacked our capital. So much history of Vietnam, books, treasures, relics, etc of ours were taken from us. We have been trying to negotiate with the Chinese government ever since to get those historical relics back to Vietnam; but the Chinese government refused it. What comes around goes around I guess.
@zelenskythegaynazi8680
@zelenskythegaynazi8680 2 жыл бұрын
@@lapprentice Ming invaded not in the 17th but 14th century, you liar! And they did not invade to conquer but to help the current ruler under invitation so lies again. They didn't loot but I stead impart a lot of culture that are still relevant till today. Lies don't make history and facts will never change.
@borisspassky1455
@borisspassky1455 2 жыл бұрын
The greatest robbery and heist known to mankind. Absolutely irresponsible and beyond belief.
@Purwapada
@Purwapada 2 жыл бұрын
it was a war. why dont you blame the spartans for destroying athenian art?
@borisspassky1455
@borisspassky1455 2 жыл бұрын
@@Deepak_Dhakad unfortunately stolen wealth is legal if committed by members of the present G7. Otherwise, it has to be returned to the rightful owner. Sorry to say this bluntly.
@Purwapada
@Purwapada 2 жыл бұрын
@@Deepak_Dhakad that is a fake statistic look it up. It's the same way in which a stamp increases value. P.s why hold the British to a different standard, when if a rajah from another kingdom took the treasure it would be okay?
@jasoncasey6667
@jasoncasey6667 2 жыл бұрын
@@Purwapada who brought the WAR? Why were you there in the first place 😂😂😂😂it’s so funny …..
@Purwapada
@Purwapada 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasoncasey6667 because thug life nah nah nah nah
@hiyukelavie2396
@hiyukelavie2396 2 жыл бұрын
The destruction of the Summer Palace wasn't just a loss for the Chinese. It was a loss for the world in general Imagine if it's still standing today and people are able to go visit it, how magnificent it must be Truly a crime against humanity
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree - the destruction of the Old Summer Palace was a tremendous loss for humanity!
@godfreyberry1599
@godfreyberry1599 Жыл бұрын
@@BygoneChina Destruction itself is part and parcel of mankind's depravity - has always been and is set to continue. Fortunately preservation and the ever growing tendency to preserve and cherish continues to gain momentum with each passing day.
@petecabrina
@petecabrina 11 ай бұрын
These types of biases are really quite something, like completely indulgent buildings and art works by a ruling elite are something to behold? And what lies in the wake of all this indulgence? How did the average Chinese citizen get on during these times? How much war and torture existed amongst the Chinese people themselves? Talk about completely stupid perspectives on History. Not that I am saying the English were any better but there are rarely any innocent nations and leaders throughout history.
@scott2452
@scott2452 8 ай бұрын
@@BygoneChina Access to the Summer Palace was restricted to only the high Qing nobility. How could it be a loss for humanity when only a relative handful of people are allowed to see it?
@reinertgregal1130
@reinertgregal1130 8 ай бұрын
@@scott2452 Also it would've probably been off limits like the Imperial Palace in Japan today.
@abelsoo5465
@abelsoo5465 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine the outrage by Brits if Buckingham Palace, Edinburgh Castle or Windsor Castle suffer the same fate.
@johnbrereton5229
@johnbrereton5229 2 жыл бұрын
@@isabellajones8535 Britain has already been invaded over the centuries and much was stolen, it's just the consequences of conquest and invasion.
@tatarchan5212
@tatarchan5212 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine, one day someone who is far more evil and competent than Xi step into power, solo the living daylight out of EU and take every thing from Buckingham Palace, make Irish ruled supreme over all of England and make Scotland an independent country. The ultimate revenge.
@wendyshoowaiching4161
@wendyshoowaiching4161 2 жыл бұрын
No one country can tolerate looting of other one's country.
@aelfricsyrax266
@aelfricsyrax266 2 жыл бұрын
Still some of the Brits would be proud of their plunder of other nations.
@mahaphoublue7644
@mahaphoublue7644 2 жыл бұрын
@@isabellajones8535 no one know but in the future destiny can tell
@waftbut
@waftbut 2 жыл бұрын
The British Museum should be charge with Handling Stolen Properties.
@sfl3073
@sfl3073 2 жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely agree! China should demand back all those relics !!
@safuwanfauzi5014
@safuwanfauzi5014 2 жыл бұрын
I not suprised, British did to Javanese palace to, we remember as 'Geger Sepehi" in 1812, the looting of treasture, gold, rare item, manuscript, jewerely, and burning and plunder of palace complex.
@alvanrigby6361
@alvanrigby6361 2 жыл бұрын
The British Museum should be congratulated for taking good care of antiquities and guading them against destruction in their homelands. Especially saving Chinese antiquities from the cultural revolution and the Elgin marbles from the Greek war of independence.
@aero.l
@aero.l 2 жыл бұрын
​@@alvanrigby6361 Twisted logic. I knew the Brits are a greedy lot. I didn't know they had powers of clairvoyance as well. How about foreign countries now send their armies to the UK and loot whatever is valuable and claim they're guarding them against destruction in the future?
@alvanrigby6361
@alvanrigby6361 2 жыл бұрын
@@aero.l Events have subsequently proven that the idea of preserving things has was correct. The rest of your statement is infantile.
@tomtom-uo7lf
@tomtom-uo7lf 2 жыл бұрын
this history is well documented word by word in chinese history book,and taught to every chinese young students
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, and that fortunately helps to keep the memory of the event alive. Many other similar acts throughout history have been largely forgotten because the history was not passed on generation to generation.
@dylanmorgan2752
@dylanmorgan2752 8 ай бұрын
@@BygoneChinaAh yes just like a certain event in Tiananmen square 1989…
@technologynewbie7661
@technologynewbie7661 2 жыл бұрын
Every time I see or read an article or watch any video on this subject, I feel sad and upset about what the British and French did. It is truly unforgivable.
@Purwapada
@Purwapada 2 жыл бұрын
yeah sorry for the invention of the engine, phone, computer, penicillin etc. i guess you should stop using them if you hate the British so much
@technologynewbie7661
@technologynewbie7661 2 жыл бұрын
@@Purwapada the inventions that you’ve mentioned have absolutely nothing to to do with the crime they committed, one has nothing to do with the other. Nothing in my comment hinted or inferred any hatred of the British. That’s just your interpretation of my comment.
@gergelyzoltan8422
@gergelyzoltan8422 2 жыл бұрын
@@technologynewbie7661 yea, but every country that has some power does the same. The Arabs did the same, then the Ottomans, Europeans, African countries stole from each other, Japanese, and the list goes on. Probably France and Britain gets most of the criticism because they are white
@terrence2.093
@terrence2.093 2 жыл бұрын
The Chinese Empire also looted the lands it conquered.
@lapprentice
@lapprentice 2 жыл бұрын
Don't be... It is natural that the strong bullies the weak and always will. The Chinese did the exact thing to us Vietnamese. There are currently tons of Vietnamese Historical Relics, our books, our language, and treasures currently being held by Chinese Museums. Back in the 17th century, the Ming invaded Viet Nam, and sacked our capital. (We eventually repelled them) So much history of Vietnam, books, treasures, relics, etc of ours were looted and taken back to China. We have been trying to negotiate with the Chinese government ever since to get those historical relics back to Vietnam; but the Chinese government refused it. What comes around goes around I guess.
@Stardust_Vivi
@Stardust_Vivi 2 жыл бұрын
As a Chinese watching this; my heart aches knowing how the Summer Palace and Chinese ppl were robbed. Cannot imagine how the Chinese ppl then must have felt seeing their emperor losing these treasures 😢
@Purwapada
@Purwapada 2 жыл бұрын
mandate of heaven
@ToastieBRRRN
@ToastieBRRRN 2 жыл бұрын
Ironic since the Manchus (Qing) robbed them from the Ming. What goes around, comes around.
@dianebrady6784
@dianebrady6784 2 жыл бұрын
As a native American.. .I know how you ache. They did it to us as well.
@Purwapada
@Purwapada 2 жыл бұрын
@@dianebrady6784 you did it to each other as well.
@mozhou1271
@mozhou1271 Жыл бұрын
​@@TerryBell1968you are brainwashed by CNN
@frankyong2607
@frankyong2607 2 жыл бұрын
The British Museum holds the "Elgin Marbles" of the Parthenon Frieze of the Acropolis, Athens. A descendant of that Elgin holding the hereditary title of Lord Elgin looted then burned down Yuan Ming Yuan. A family line of plunderers and looters indeed. The British Museum also holds the loot of ancient Buddhist manuscripts from the Magao Caves, Dunhuang along the Silk Road, China - committed/facilitated by Hungarian Aurel Stein who was later knighted for his archeological plundering for the Museum.
@Purwapada
@Purwapada 2 жыл бұрын
the british museum safely preserves ancient artefacts that were disregarded by the people they came from. if someone picks up something you threw in a skip and them you discover it was valuable, you dont blame them - you blame yourself. get a life
@tellall6807
@tellall6807 2 жыл бұрын
@@Purwapada You endia, go get lost grandpa !
@Purwapada
@Purwapada 2 жыл бұрын
@@tellall6807 I'm 21 tho lol
@GreoGreo
@GreoGreo Жыл бұрын
@@Purwapada They don't belong to brotish museum. Preserve your own things not someone elses.
@Purwapada
@Purwapada Жыл бұрын
@@GreoGreo the countries of origin didnt preserve their own things for the most part. They were neglected and often destroyed, it was the British that started to study the history of these regions not the locals. For example the Elgin marbles were being shot at as target practice by the ottomans, and protected by lord Elgin who bought them from the ottomans. People like you don't care about history, you only want to use artefacts from the past as tools for nationalism and as distractions from government failures to direct the hate at others. If your truly cared about history you would be enamoured by every scratch and crack on an item and marvel as to how it ended up where it is today.
@kaiulani3044
@kaiulani3044 2 жыл бұрын
It's nice to hear a fluent English speaker pronouncing Chinese names correctly. None of those cringey, mangled Chinese articulations by other English speaking narrators who make no effort to learn the correct pronunciation of names.
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you - I try my best, although still believe that I need to improve my Chinese pronunciation further.
@Crispvs1
@Crispvs1 2 жыл бұрын
@@BygoneChina Well done on the Chinese pronunciation. To this untrained ear it sounds very good. On the matter of English pronunciation though, 'Lieutenant' is pronounced 'Leff-tenant' in English (owing to the letter 'u' once having been the same as the letter 'v'). 'Loo-tenant' is the American pronunciation. Also, with the word 'the', only use the long version (sounding like 'thee') before a word beginning with a vowel as it grates on the ears of most English speakers when it is used before a consonant. Always use the short pronunciation of 'the' before a word beginning with a consonant.
@samwisegamgee8318
@samwisegamgee8318 8 ай бұрын
@kaiulani3044 when people take the time to focus on your history, why do you care if they make mistakes? This same elitist arrogance was what led the Chinese leadership to torture POWs and end up losing their wealth and culture in the first place.
@crisgeeplease
@crisgeeplease 8 ай бұрын
@@BygoneChina Am I crazy but were you pronouncing Qing as "ting" or "tink"? It's driving me crazy. It's "ching", like "ka-ching!" Also, there were wrong pictures of the Summer Palace. That's the 颐和园, not the 圆明园.
@chenxilu8715
@chenxilu8715 2 жыл бұрын
Great video with a lot of precious information ! Thank you !
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
It was my pleasure!
@papachefhainan6505
@papachefhainan6505 2 жыл бұрын
Shameless thieves and they and their kinds are still at it; just camouflaged in another form.
@teosm001
@teosm001 2 жыл бұрын
Not thief but robber
@gadgetgasspoll
@gadgetgasspoll 2 жыл бұрын
Freedumb and demoncrazy baby 😎
@ChrisCrossClash
@ChrisCrossClash Жыл бұрын
You Chinese have done your own thievery and killing so don't come all high and mighty.
@George-k6o9t
@George-k6o9t 8 ай бұрын
@@gadgetgasspoll Once a barbarian and never been civilized, always a barbarian.
@rodgerhargoon3402
@rodgerhargoon3402 8 ай бұрын
In their blood ....no wonder they lost everything after the 2nd world war including their stolen colonies 😂😂
@robertschlesinger1342
@robertschlesinger1342 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Very interesting, informative and worthwhile video. A must see video for everyone.
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@SL-hc6nw
@SL-hc6nw 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Very informative. Thank you
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it!
@mostlykeith
@mostlykeith 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing really that stolen Chinese treasures are on open display in UK museums, and yet the Brits cry moral indignation at Russia’s invasion of The Ukraine...
@franciscouderq1100
@franciscouderq1100 2 жыл бұрын
Not exactly the same era !
@edmurks236
@edmurks236 2 жыл бұрын
Treasures stolen from British empire all around the world. India , Egypt etc etc.
@safuwanfauzi5014
@safuwanfauzi5014 2 жыл бұрын
@@franciscouderq1100 British did to Javanese palace to, we remember as 'Geger Sepehi" in 1812, the looting of treasure, gold, rare item, manuscript, jewelry, and burning and plunder of palace complex. They so did to Burmese royal palace complex, looting the treasure, gold, precious metal and stone, manuscript and jewelry. India subcontient, Burma, Malay archipelago that made British today rich. but i see UK in decline now.. rise of China, Indonesia, India and others asian country.
@josephguo6256
@josephguo6256 2 жыл бұрын
BBC
@hanzocloud
@hanzocloud 2 жыл бұрын
@@franciscouderq1100 just goes to show, bad guys become good guys and vice versa..
@Judygohck
@Judygohck 2 жыл бұрын
Is so heartbreaking to know the thruth
@mikemooney9124
@mikemooney9124 2 жыл бұрын
I’m British and have worked in China for 14 years now and I’m enraged by this terrible act of cultural vandalism. And these colonial masters had signs erected in Chinese parks - “No dogs, no Chinese”… the colonial history of Britain which is drenched in blood and invasion and slaughter and racism has never been told in the classroom and this arrogance towards China continues to this very day. These same people who perpetrated these deeds continue to lecture China (and India) on “human rights”… this disgusting history will return to haunt not only Britain but other colonial countries of Europe in this new era when Asian countries are beginning to rise and recover from what was inflicted upon them in the 19th century. The terrible irony is that most of these colonial countries no longer know or remember their evil histories and continue to arrogantly insult and lecture not only China but other Asian countries… I’m full of shame and disgust for my own country and it’s vile history of invasion, racism, subjugation and butchery around the world… shame, shame, shame.
@davesherry5384
@davesherry5384 2 жыл бұрын
Stop talking tripe. If you want to see history drenched in blood then just take a look at what China has done to their neighbours over the past 2,000 years. Maybe grow up little at the same time. I doubt you'd find a Tibetan or Uigher that agrees with your analysis.
@mikemooney9124
@mikemooney9124 2 жыл бұрын
@@davesherry5384 Could we have some real evidence from Tibet or Xinjiang because I haven’t seen anything credible yet..?
@davesherry5384
@davesherry5384 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikemooney9124 A bit before your time I know, but give the Dalai Lama a call. I am sure he'll be happy to educate you on the matter of Chinese war crimes and other crimes against humanity. The fact you havn't seen anything credible on either Tibet or the plight of Uighers let alone the other ethnic cleansing beign carried out by the CCP yet, shows me you are either too young, too apologist or you just walk around with your eyes closed all day.
@mikemooney9124
@mikemooney9124 2 жыл бұрын
@@davesherry5384 - and still again you give absolutely no evidence of Chinese inhumanity to anyone except mention the Lama who was bought and paid for by western governments and entertained by the uneducated fools of Hollywood… on the contrary, my friend, I think it’s your lack of knowledge which has duped you and your lack of knowledge of Chinese history. I have lived in China for almost 15 years and have given some time to educate myself on these issues. The destruction of the Royal Palace was massive and no visual evidence has been even shown here of the size and scale of the destruction… the equivalent of the Louvre in Paris x 20 including treasures going back 1000’s of years. Even today I know what a British soldier is like… many of them ex-criminals and can only imagine what they were like in 1800’s. At the same time they were pillaging India, and exterminating native Americans, not to mention the rest of the world…. I assure you the history of the British empire is extremely inglorious and their media has spent lots of time on preventing people like you from knowing the real truth which is made up of invasion, looting, terror, slaughter and genocide.
@amindra963
@amindra963 2 жыл бұрын
You, who is living in China have learned of the racism and cruelty committed against all peoples of colour by devilish whyte colonial men. I've lived in Canada for 58 years and I know! Having volunteered for a indigenous community for years; I have witnessed the horrors of whyte colonial concentration camps for indigenous infants and children. It is now estimated to unearth 45,000 unmarked graves of indigenous children in the years ahead, when the indigenous peoples are " permitted" to dig up thousands of these grave sites. The Canadian governments throughout the years have cunningly placed the blame on the pope; who was here a few months ago to apologize personally for this horror! The UN called this holocaust a genocide! Incidentally, the queen of England owns 89% of the land in Canada. Stolen from the the Indigenous people. I can understand your anguish! I too, am deeply saddened!
@MrMomo2022
@MrMomo2022 2 жыл бұрын
India & Africa were also victims of the looting; in addition: kidnapping, selling in trading of slavery. Thank you for your unbias report.
@samwisegamgee8318
@samwisegamgee8318 8 ай бұрын
Yes, mostly by Arabs and other Africans. In fact, Africans have done more harm to themselves over the years than any other people group, except for possibly Arab slave traders that still operate today.
@davidvasey5065
@davidvasey5065 8 ай бұрын
Africa was largely a utopia before european rule
@samwisegamgee8318
@samwisegamgee8318 8 ай бұрын
@@davidvasey5065agreed. they had vibranium, flying cars, and were entirely selfless, all tribes lived peacefully with one another. None sold any into slavery.
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative video! It’s interesting to see some of the items taken from Yuanmingyuan as well as to learn about the East Essex Regiment. Having been to the ruins, it’s not very hard to imagine how magnificent the site once was. At the same time though, one can also easily imagine the scale of the looting and destruction that took place there. It’s a shame since if it hadn’t been destroyed, it likely would still have been around today like the many other sites around Beijing. Great video! By the way, what equipment do you use to record your videos? I’ve tried a couple different microphones but always seem to get an echo haha!
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment, and I'm glad that you enjoyed the video! Yes, I believe that it is a great shame that Yuanmingyuan was sacked. It's interesting that the response of the British public at the time was mixed - although there were some who believed that it was an adequate response to the murder of the British hostages, there majority actually felt that it was barbaric and unnecessary, with many newspapers heavily criticising the action (and attempting to lay the blame on the French). By the way, I use the Blue Yeti microphone for my audio recording. I have used it for all my videos and have been very satisfied with the quality, and it is very easy to operate (literally plug it into your usb and set the gain and you are good to go). I just bought the standard pack, which didn't include accessories like a muffler, stand etc, but I don't think that they are necessary as the base Blue Yeti already produces audio with a high enough quality. The microphone is also reasonably priced compared to others on the market, so I highly recommend it.
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered 3 жыл бұрын
@@BygoneChina Thanks for the reply! It’s definitely interesting but understandable that people back home had different reactions. Many sources won’t mention this point and it’s definitely one that I didn’t know before! I’ll definitely check out the microphone as well! Thanks again!
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome! One more think that I forgot to add is that the microphone is quite heavy, so it is not really suitable for travel.
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered 3 жыл бұрын
@@BygoneChina I see. Thanks for telling me that! I guess I should probably wait a little bit then haha
@bertroost1675
@bertroost1675 2 жыл бұрын
One must also be aware that after the sacking a great number of local Chinese also went in and looted what was left.
@danielbtwd
@danielbtwd 2 жыл бұрын
You can read a brilliant account of this sacking of the summer Palace in one of the Flashman books by George MacDonald Frasier. A truly despicable event. The summer Palace was a staggering feat of engineering and beauty. Imagine if someone came and did the same thing to St Paul's cathedral and Buckingham Palace.
@inotaishu1
@inotaishu1 Жыл бұрын
then many people today would cheer and claim it to be justice. Usually the same people who think they are brave for critizising King Charles but would never dream of critisizing Xi or Erdogan, even though both claim a long history of their nations. A history full of conquest, colonialism, looting, religious intolerance, slavery and of course genocide.
@inotaishu1
@inotaishu1 Жыл бұрын
@@TerryBell1968 Are you referring to what happened to Tibetan monasteries under the CCP regime or something else?
@George-k6o9t
@George-k6o9t 8 ай бұрын
@@inotaishu1 Unable to answer any of the questions directed at his misinformation, it seems like this @TerryBell1968 has fled the room ......!
@inotaishu1
@inotaishu1 8 ай бұрын
@@George-k6o9t possibly. I have seen it before that people just delete comments. Or perhaps the account was deleted.
@reinertgregal1130
@reinertgregal1130 8 ай бұрын
Also one of the palace buildings were made by european scholars.
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 3 жыл бұрын
My apologies for the long gap between this and my previous video - I aim to release more frequently in the future! I hope that you enjoyed watching, and please do let me know what you thought of the documentary here in the comments!
@mint8648
@mint8648 Жыл бұрын
Did you talk about france? France was involved too
@lisakong8651
@lisakong8651 2 жыл бұрын
and the looters and their descendants keep telling the whole world how to live by values of the moral high ground...
@matheenarif8645
@matheenarif8645 Жыл бұрын
Hypocrites they are
@suatchaglan7446
@suatchaglan7446 8 ай бұрын
Yep actual savages calling everybody else the savage
@samwisegamgee8318
@samwisegamgee8318 8 ай бұрын
@@suatchaglan7446Weird that you opt to speak the language of savages and use the websites of savages. It's almost as if western agression is the exception rather than the rule, and that if China didn't torture POWs none of this would've happened. As it stands, Vietnam is still waiting for China to return most of their cultural relics as well. China's own arrogance and delusions of invincibility led them to torture others and finally lose their mandate for good.
@CR-og5ho
@CR-og5ho 8 ай бұрын
​@suatchaglan7446 Keep telling yourself that, meanwhile both human rights and animal rights are more adhered to and respected in Western Europe than anywhere else in the world. 😊
@suatchaglan7446
@suatchaglan7446 8 ай бұрын
@@CR-og5ho devil?
@vincenteng7613
@vincenteng7613 9 ай бұрын
Many thanks for this reporting of the true history.
@margarettang2201
@margarettang2201 9 ай бұрын
Very informative and in great detail, tks for uploading the truth!
@humanity1581
@humanity1581 2 жыл бұрын
Please make a podcast on the lotting of Japanese soldiers in southeast Asia and China.
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
That is a topic that deserves to be covered in depth. My channel focuses on Chinese history, so while I may not cover the Japanese looting in Southeast Asia, I will likely to an extensive documentary on their actions in China. I also intend to do a video on Manchuria one day, but I will wait until I have the opportunity to travel to some of the historical sites in the Dongbei region of China again.
@frankyong2607
@frankyong2607 2 жыл бұрын
In the Japanese occupation of Southeast Asia (in the Japanese War theatre of World War Two in East Asia), the Japanese Imperial Army under the direction of the Emperor Hirohito (but never tried by the victorious Allied War Military Justice Tribunal) and supervised by imperial prince in the field in the project codenamed "Golden Lily" looted all gold materials/Buddhist temple gold statutes in Burma and Thailand/jewellery in Southeast Asia and melted them down into gold bullions for transhipment to Japan via the Philippines (i.e. the General Yamashita's gold as the general was stationed in the Philippines during wartime).The sudden Japanese surrender due to the two atomic bombs stopped the shipment operations. The American authorities came to know about this gold and took a portion of it from the Japanese - all done in secrecy by the post-war American looters. Ref: "The Yamato Dynasty - the secret history of Japan's imperial family" by Sterling Seagrave and Peggy Seagrave.
@frankyong2607
@frankyong2607 2 жыл бұрын
@@BygoneChina please refer to my reply to "humanity" on Japanese Imperial Army looting of Southeast Asian gold - the Yamashita's gold.
@Jeffrey2323
@Jeffrey2323 2 жыл бұрын
The Chinese had 100 years of humiliation. Never again.
@ScytheriaReborn
@ScytheriaReborn 2 жыл бұрын
Coming up - 10,000 years.
@alvanrigby6361
@alvanrigby6361 2 жыл бұрын
The Chinse are like the Bourbons. They remember everything and learn nothing. They themselves are engineering another bout of humiliation.
@Amen7801
@Amen7801 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScytheriaReborn , 😂
@royc888
@royc888 2 жыл бұрын
more than 100 yrs to be honest.... Since Manchu invasion and ruled China for near 300 yrs.
@matheenarif8645
@matheenarif8645 Жыл бұрын
Never again brother.
@Jodoe243
@Jodoe243 2 жыл бұрын
China shall not forget.
@MrBlinder514
@MrBlinder514 2 жыл бұрын
Never!
@jamaljyf
@jamaljyf 8 ай бұрын
@@pppp-jf5cs same like white men who are acting like super heroes or big humanitarians of world at the same time downplayed their atrocities during the colonial era especially from 17th to early 20th century and ! 🤣🤣🤣
@scom2475
@scom2475 8 ай бұрын
@@pppp-jf5cswhataboutism. plus, most chinese people who lived through the cultural revolution do remember it. they certainly did not forget how their culture was tarnished by communism
@shengfeng-j8g
@shengfeng-j8g 5 ай бұрын
@@pppp-jf5cs Are you tarnishing a great person? Do you want to be enemies with China's 1.5 billion people?
@marybeasley8219
@marybeasley8219 2 жыл бұрын
An outstanding presentation thank you for making this documentary. Subscribed.
@AprilWong1978
@AprilWong1978 2 жыл бұрын
Greatly appreciated your video! I did not know this part of the China history until your video.
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that I was able to help you learn about this important episode in history!
@gohmike6169
@gohmike6169 2 жыл бұрын
From Hongkong?
@itsthatsem
@itsthatsem 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insightful video. I now know more why the Chinese will not tolerate a repeat of these horrendous crimes against them by the Anglo Saxons. Love and support for the Chinese.
@SerBallister
@SerBallister 2 жыл бұрын
French aren't Anglo Saxons, if you want to label people by race (why?) at least get it right.
@epsilonxvi5675
@epsilonxvi5675 2 жыл бұрын
@@SerBallister they are anglo saxon too moron they are brother in the same mother search ango - francopon
@linemily6671
@linemily6671 2 жыл бұрын
Chinese people never forget.
@short-leggedturtle1315
@short-leggedturtle1315 2 жыл бұрын
Really ... Do you remember the Tiananmen Square massacre? I do. I was there. Or the 1975 Banqiao Dam failure Or the Cultural Revolution Or the Great Leap Forward Or the Hundred Flowers Campaign Or the execution of landlords during the Land Reform Movement Or the 1938 Yellow River flood (levees blown up by the KMT government) Or the Northern Chinese famine of 1876 - 1879 (10 million died) Or the Taiping Rebellion (20 - 40 million died) (Nanjing destroyed) Or do you just remember those things that hurt your national pride (and are taught over and over again by governments that would rather you remember things in the past that divert your attention from all the terrible things that have happened since)
@linemily6671
@linemily6671 2 жыл бұрын
western propaganda
@short-leggedturtle1315
@short-leggedturtle1315 2 жыл бұрын
@@linemily6671 I forgot that your brains have Chinese characteristics (中国脑有中国特色)
@royc888
@royc888 2 жыл бұрын
@@short-leggedturtle1315 don't forget, Mongols conquered and ruled China for 100 yrs, and Manchus conquered China and ruled for near 300 yrs made all the men shave their heads.
@theoracle9873
@theoracle9873 9 ай бұрын
​@@short-leggedturtle1315hello, why don't you talk about what happened to your mom by extension?
@saibot7218
@saibot7218 3 жыл бұрын
Britain and French was full evil that period. In Denmark before napoleon wars, Britain stole the entire Danish/Norwegian fleet that was used for trading with therefore almost no canons equipped, and was second largest fleet in world. They also bombed Copenhagen with burning rockets and motars for no reason. Made Denmark go bankroupt. And Norway got forced seeded to Sweden without their will as they were just some object.
@bertroost1675
@bertroost1675 2 жыл бұрын
Tell me a major nation that wasn't "full evil" at one time or another?
@jakehughes6087
@jakehughes6087 2 жыл бұрын
The original pearl harbour eletric boogaloo
@Haiartup
@Haiartup 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this was because Denmark allied itself with the French by obeying napoleon with his continental system ( Basically told everyone not to trade with Britain) so Britain destroyed their navy, and this was deemed adequate since it was after all a war. So it wasn't just for no reason they went to Copenhagen to destroy their navy and break away from the continental system this is very brief.
@saibot7218
@saibot7218 2 жыл бұрын
@@Haiartup you are wrong. Denmark was neutral
@garychin5321
@garychin5321 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Saibot; I believe the term U R looking for is:............."Avarice";..............Remember the Dutch and the Belgium also had vast Imperial Empires! What the Belgium did in the Congo under King Leopold II was simply unspeakable..... See Book: "Heart of Darkness." By: Polish-English novelist: Joseph Conrad. Which many modern scholars already know is what the1979 'Coppola' Film: "Apocalypse Now." was based on... One thing I must: Take-My-Hat-Off-To all Europeans; they are Masters at Raging War between themselves and inflicting on others.... Ask the Native Americans/First Nationers in the American Continent..... See: Kevin Costner's 500 Nations. 1995 ‧ Documentary. Remember the Philosophy of the time:- "Have Gun Will Travel!" And let's face it the West Certainly knows about GUNS!
@tangbesitangbesi7009
@tangbesitangbesi7009 2 жыл бұрын
This channel's pioneering works and research on the above topic will be invaluable to future historians. And it might trigger the chinese government's interest in requesting the return of all those historical artifacts through international law
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I will continue conducting research into a range of topics and share them on this channel, so the world can learn more about many untold stories from Chinese history.
@littlespark1605
@littlespark1605 2 жыл бұрын
A history should be spread and known by more western countries. A documentary should have done by official media to tell the truth.
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
There are still many untold stories from this piece of history waiting to be told.
@Purwapada
@Purwapada 2 жыл бұрын
and the goods deads of britian also known. whats with this constant one sided storytelling about britains history?
@RangKlos
@RangKlos 2 жыл бұрын
Very well made documentary. Subscribed.
@フランドール·スカーレット-i7v
@フランドール·スカーレット-i7v 2 жыл бұрын
If you are trying to talk specifically about the British looting of the “Old Summer Palace”, then use the picture for the “Old Summer Palace”, the picture you used in this video is the painting of the “Summer Palace”, not the “Old Summer Palace”. The “Old Summer Palace” is referred to “Yuanmingyuan” (圆明园), but the “Summer Palace “ is referred to as the “Qingyiyuan” (清漪园), later was renamed as “Yiheyuan” (颐和园). These two palaces are different.
@Purwapada
@Purwapada 2 жыл бұрын
this video is propaganda anyway
@anaavila9326
@anaavila9326 2 жыл бұрын
@@Purwapada everything relating to china is propaganda now? lol
@jertan2171
@jertan2171 2 жыл бұрын
@@Purwapada The keyword is Britsh Looting. It is believed that the British Empire looted billions from India alone. Even the word looting is derived from the Hindi lexicon.
@Purwapada
@Purwapada 2 жыл бұрын
@@jertan2171 and so what? Other rajahs kingdoms looted from each other. Why hold the British to a different standard?
@jertan2171
@jertan2171 2 жыл бұрын
@@Purwapada Two wrongs don't make a right. Do you mean that offenders are held not accountable? If so, they have enough excuses for the crime they committed. You may continue to believe that there are no prompted concerns yourself about their appalling treatment. Do you have any clue about Article 28 of the 1899 Hague Regulations provides: “The pillage of a town or place, even when taken by assault is prohibited. By the way, the only thing in the world the British Imperialists have failed to loot is the seven wonders like the Egyptian pyramid and Great Wall.
@kaml.7341
@kaml.7341 2 жыл бұрын
What goes around comes around! Buckingham Palace, Windsor Castle, Versailles will suffer the same fate.
@edmurks236
@edmurks236 2 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine the outcry?
@letspetpuppies
@letspetpuppies 2 жыл бұрын
keep dreaming mate. youre never getting anything back hahahahahah
@edmurks236
@edmurks236 2 жыл бұрын
@@letspetpuppies Britain going broke rapidly they might even have to "sell off" all their stolen treasures at bargain basement prices.
@edmurks236
@edmurks236 2 жыл бұрын
@@letspetpuppies Very true.
@ChrisCrossClash
@ChrisCrossClash Жыл бұрын
Yeah right you keep dreaming that, you try anything like that kiss your ass goodbye.
@poshbo
@poshbo Жыл бұрын
One comment: the drawing shown at 5:11 and repeated several times in the video is of the (new) Summer Palace which still stands today (it was also damaged by British and French troops but was mostly rebuilt under Empress Dowager Cixi). It is nearby but separate from the Old Summer Palace which was burned down (and the subject of this video).
@gamespot8527
@gamespot8527 2 жыл бұрын
What amazes me is the acceptance of the UK population now about keeping these stolen items, wouldn’t one wonder to return those stolen goods?
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
I think the British population is becoming more critical of the artefacts in their museums, and are gradually coming to a belief that objects taken unjustly should be returned. For example, many British now feel that the Elgin Marbles should be returned. If more were familiar with the story of how the Summer Palace loot came to be in the UK, I am confident that a majority would advocate for them to be returned back to China.
@wsmithe2209
@wsmithe2209 2 жыл бұрын
@@BygoneChina - I would like to see that day. A lot of these looted items have no value for them.
@elijahhernandez906
@elijahhernandez906 8 ай бұрын
​@@BygoneChinaWhat about the stuff that's in the Vatican? Surely some if it must have been stolen?
@MrJm323
@MrJm323 8 ай бұрын
What is sad is the ignorance of people such as this OP, who doesn't seem to understand that you can only view these items precisely because they were taken out of China. Indeed, these items were never the "property of China" (let alone "the Chinese people"), they were the possessions of a despotic ruler of China. They would have been destroyed -- particularly in the Cultural Revolution of the 1960s had they not been taken removed. They weren't "stolen", they were liberated. It makes no sense to talk about "returning" them unless somehow you think the Communist Party (who carried out the Cultural Revolution which destroyed so much of the Chinese cultural legacy) are the heirs of the imperial dynasties of China.
@serebii666
@serebii666 8 ай бұрын
The great irony then being that their looting likely preserved far more artefacts than if they were left in situ, waiting to be destroyed by the Cultural Revolution.
@ireneserrano4570
@ireneserrano4570 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and great reporting on the visual documents, also thanks for your efforts investigating on chinese objects in british collections, well done!! educative, entertaining and high quality content!! 👏👌
@Zergcerebrates
@Zergcerebrates 2 жыл бұрын
China needs to charge the British museum for the display of the loot.
@WrathoftheHan
@WrathoftheHan 2 жыл бұрын
Charge? More like kill them all and take it all back. They are strong enough now. The UK are nothing but a pile of rotting flesh surrendering to the inevitable.
@livensun
@livensun 2 жыл бұрын
remember the history and respect it. hope peace in the world
@kimchiba4570
@kimchiba4570 2 жыл бұрын
China must settle this score one day ... And the Anglo thugs call China a thief
@WrathoftheHan
@WrathoftheHan 2 жыл бұрын
I hope they'll ALL pay for it in blood on a greater scale than Nanjing. We'll see how they like it when we watch the Chinese raze Buckingham Palace. The Chinese are super pissed.
@我爱你-b9e
@我爱你-b9e 2 жыл бұрын
As Chinese, I could say we've been through a lot in the past few centuries, undergoing invasions from so many western countries as well as Japan and sacrificing ourselves. The invaders grabbed so many historical relics, forced China to sign many unjustifying agreements and killed numerous Chinese people. All I want is to hope for an official apology and return of all Chinese historical relics from these countries.
@karllarsen8797
@karllarsen8797 2 жыл бұрын
@我爱你 I do not mean to cause you any hurt feelings because I have sympathy for what the ordinary Chinese people endured from Western aggression. I hope that Chinese people will have freedom and democracy one day in the not too distant future. I also hope that as victims of Western aggression and imperialism, Chinese people know the pain and hurt from being invaded and would refuse to cooperate and resist attempts by the current Chinese communist government to aggressively invade the land and sea of other South East Asian countries. Do unto others as you would like them do unto you.
@我爱你-b9e
@我爱你-b9e 2 жыл бұрын
@@karllarsen8797 Chinese never invaded any territories of other countries, unlike Japan and some western countries.
@maggie14411331
@maggie14411331 2 жыл бұрын
@@karllarsen8797 this is what it looks like to be totally ignorant and brainwashed. Take some serious and authentic history lessons. #LMFAO
@WrathoftheHan
@WrathoftheHan 2 жыл бұрын
You don't ask, you take by force. Just like they did on the great lands of China. Land on their shores, burn down Buckingham Palace, and carry off their women in large herds like cattle and bring them back to the mainland. One way or another, they will get their comeuppance. China is not weak anymore. On the contrary, it is the UK that is weak.
@NemanjaStojic25
@NemanjaStojic25 Жыл бұрын
​@@我爱你-b9eTibet left the chat
@davidwoon6402
@davidwoon6402 2 жыл бұрын
Whatever belongs to China give back to China. Whatever belongs to India give back to India. And.. whatever belongs to God give back to God. 😇🙏
@kwokholuk8723
@kwokholuk8723 2 жыл бұрын
Former Indian prime minister asked former British prime minister to return the treasures to India many years ago. British prime minister said NO. He said if Britain returns Indian treasures to India, other countries such as Egypt, China, Myanmar, Malaysia, ……………… will request Britain to return their treasures. British museums will become empty. What logic is it? A lot of treasures in the British museums are stolen properties.
@davidwoon6402
@davidwoon6402 Жыл бұрын
@@TerryBell1968 Whatever belongs to Hawaii, gives back to Hawaii. Whatever belongs to the Natives American Red Indians, gives back to the Natives American Red Indians. For God sake..! 😇
@davidwoon6402
@davidwoon6402 Жыл бұрын
@@TerryBell1968 Learn your History first! 😎
@julaingallimore7152
@julaingallimore7152 2 жыл бұрын
Great work. So sad to see. Thanks for the information.
@productreviewmy
@productreviewmy 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine burning Buckingham palace and looting all the jewellery in there
@WrathoftheHan
@WrathoftheHan 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, Chairman Xi is working on that. 😂
@ChrisCrossClash
@ChrisCrossClash Жыл бұрын
@@WrathoftheHan You wish
@matheenarif8645
@matheenarif8645 Жыл бұрын
Well, whats the point now?. The damage is done since 200 years ago. All we can do is learn from mistakes.
@midnaurthqua6773
@midnaurthqua6773 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to know that there was someone who was willing to pay for the return of one such item! Old deeds can not be undone...but there is always room for a better spirit to make amends...🙏🏼
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
Many rich Chinese are using their wealth to pay for the return of Chinese historical artefacts - The anonymous bidder referenced in the video was likely one such person.
@gobanito
@gobanito 8 ай бұрын
Imagine the Chinese looting Buckingham Palace and displaying looted treasures in Chinese museums?
@LWIN729
@LWIN729 2 жыл бұрын
A big thank you 👍👍to you for showing this video!!!!
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@gzhou5432
@gzhou5432 2 жыл бұрын
You mentioned 'opium war' but did not explain the true details why this was called opium war!
@susanchin4117
@susanchin4117 2 жыл бұрын
Sir, thank you so much for the video. Looking forward to more. God bless 🙏
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome, I have many more videos planned!
@monkeyjob611
@monkeyjob611 2 жыл бұрын
Impressived! Keep up the good work!
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the support!
@siewwahleong93
@siewwahleong93 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad the tides have turned and the impact will slowly be fully realised.
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
Fortunately, this event is well recorded, and people generally agree that it was wrong and the sacking should never have been allowed to occur. Moreover, many of the looted treasures have now been returned home to China, and more will surely follow. I prey that nothing like this ever occurs again in the future.
@Fritz999
@Fritz999 2 жыл бұрын
Those thieves stole everything that was somehow moveable. Everyone, from officer to the lowliest soldier stole.
@NyaDotWav
@NyaDotWav 2 жыл бұрын
love this well-made video!
@mendo35
@mendo35 8 ай бұрын
I have heard of this looting before but I have never seen the photos, they are amazing.
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 8 ай бұрын
I find historical photographs fascinating!
@wentaosong
@wentaosong 2 жыл бұрын
The old summer palace actually wasn’t destroyed only in this war. The rebuilt of the new summer palace, the boxer rebellion war and the war load looting in 1920s. Most importantly the local peasants kept opening up new farming lands in the old summer palace which was soon abandoned after the second opium war. This situation continued until the 1970s.
@王司晨-g9t
@王司晨-g9t Жыл бұрын
傻逼
@anuragpatil4073
@anuragpatil4073 8 ай бұрын
If looting was an art then Britain would have championed it.
@Isxiros100
@Isxiros100 5 ай бұрын
You can understand China's animosity to the west these days ....2 opium wars and the "century of humiliation" explain a lot. Im actually disgusted any time i read about this time of european/ chinese interaction. It really goes to show how colonial powers had so little disregard for people and culture snd were just in it for the riches..
@codyshi4743
@codyshi4743 8 ай бұрын
I don’t know if this is true but I heard that according to some historian the Chinese Summer Palace Yuan Ming Yuan was looted twice. The first time during the Second Opium War by both the British and the French, and the second time during the Boxer Rebellion by all the eight nations’ soldiers who took part in putting down the rebellion.
@spaceenthusiast7160
@spaceenthusiast7160 3 жыл бұрын
The destruction and looting of Yuanmingyuan is a tragedy not many people know about unfortunately. I wish I could go back in time and see it how it was during the Qing dynasty.
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I also wish that I could witness its grandeur during the Qing Dynasty.
@yummytummy88
@yummytummy88 2 жыл бұрын
Time machine is impossible...watching a rape of a nation is not a site many would want to watch, especially if you have Chinese blood in your vein.
@gohmike6169
@gohmike6169 2 жыл бұрын
Because it’s covered up by the western looters
@rajathapa6155
@rajathapa6155 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your effort. Commendable research and effort. Good luck for your future videos.
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 8 ай бұрын
I really appreciate your support, thank you!
@davidpqlim
@davidpqlim 2 жыл бұрын
China and Chinese all over the world must never forget this destruction of the Summer Palace by the English and the century of humiliation led by the Anglo-French forces
@brandonroberts1936
@brandonroberts1936 8 ай бұрын
How about the Brits who were tortures to death? Should Brits ever forget?
@davidjgill4902
@davidjgill4902 8 ай бұрын
What you say is motivated more by the politics of today than by a respect for culture, history ,or art.
@whatsindoyt8479
@whatsindoyt8479 5 ай бұрын
YES! Forget those drug dealers and colonizer. ​@@brandonroberts1936
@TalasDD
@TalasDD 8 ай бұрын
there is a mistake in the video. the Old summer Palace is direktly north of the Imperial city and quite close unlike how its implied on the map. the place the map points to is where the new summer palace is locatet.
@short-leggedturtle1315
@short-leggedturtle1315 2 жыл бұрын
Anti-colonialism is always woven together with this history. It is better to tell it plainly without statements like it was the greatest act of cultural vandalism in the modern period. The Taiping Rebellion cut a huge swath of destruction across China, Yuan Shi-kai plundered plenty of imperial tombs to add to his treasury and Mao Zidong launched the Cultural Revolution which also involved wide scale cultural destruction. The Old Summer Palace wasn't particularly old and it could have been rebuilt but later emperors decided to build a new palace. It is really remembered because it is symbol of national humiliation.
@frankyong2607
@frankyong2607 2 жыл бұрын
Empress Dowager Cixi and her son Emperor Tongzhi would have wanted to rebuild the burnt Yuan Ming Yuan but it was too large, and too expensive to do so. Much later on and during the nominal reign of Emperor Guangxu, a much smaller scale and physically nearer to the Forbidden Palace in Beijing using a pre-existing lake site (one of a string of three lakes adjacent to the Forbidden Palace) was chosen for the "new summer place".
@mk-apache6161
@mk-apache6161 7 ай бұрын
OMG! This is absolutely unacceptable.
@ChristianJiang
@ChristianJiang 8 ай бұрын
Between “ching” and “ting”, I think the former is still closer to the mandarin pronunciation “qīng”. Amazing video!
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 8 ай бұрын
Thanks, I'll work on my pronunciation to be even closer to the standard Mandarin pronunciation next time!
@sushiking1965
@sushiking1965 2 жыл бұрын
Subscribed. Looking forward for more great videos.
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'll make sure not to disappoint!
@garychin5321
@garychin5321 2 жыл бұрын
Hi All; There is now a 3-Part 30 minute. Broadcast on the BBC-Radio 4 on the Sacking of the Summer Palace. It is titled: "China's Stolen Treasures". Noah Charney is the Goto man! Titled:- Heist, History and Heritage. Buyers and Sellers A Question Of Ownership. Enjoy....😄
@sailormiu
@sailormiu Ай бұрын
they still won't return much of what they looted. disgraceful.
@jasoncasey6667
@jasoncasey6667 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the GENERAL who led the BURMA ROYAL FAMILY Out of their PALACE and asked the King if he could the BAG of their jewelry and he will give it back when they reached the destination He never gave it back 😂😂😂 The ganstanirism of it all is astounding
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't heard of that story before - It would be interesting to see a documentary on that event!
@jasoncasey6667
@jasoncasey6667 2 жыл бұрын
@@BygoneChina I even forgot his NAME the Genaral I mean …..I will look for it There is Documentary of it here on KZbin,the Journalist visited the Royal Family in India,the journalist talked about the Big Stone the British General Stole
@pangkiatloh4555
@pangkiatloh4555 8 ай бұрын
During WW2, 12000 Palestinians volunteered to serve in the British army. They fought against the Nazi German in Europe & North Africa. Many of them lost theirs life , others wounded & many still missing. The Gaza war & more then 30 K deaths of Palestinians is the " Best Gift" from the British Gov for the Palestinians. 🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭
@trollers_goal2969
@trollers_goal2969 2 жыл бұрын
As a British this pisses me off Ya I kinda agree that it was our fault No Offence--
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
It's not just today that people feel ashamed by the destruction - British people in the 19th century were also appalled by the looting and burning of the Summer Palace. Many, including much of the media, felt ashamed that the self-proclaimed 'civilised' nation would treat the supposedly 'barbaric' nation in such a clearly uncivilised way.
@WrathoftheHan
@WrathoftheHan 2 жыл бұрын
@@BygoneChina Watch us burn down Buckingham Palace soon enough. The Chinese have every single right to completely level the UK until it is a desolate landscape, as befitting of the island rats.
@reinertgregal1130
@reinertgregal1130 8 ай бұрын
@@BygoneChina Weird to even consider it barbaric considering the trade deficit they had with China before Opium Wars.
@KoreaChurchWorship
@KoreaChurchWorship 13 күн бұрын
Amazing video it is. Can you give me the name of map(or picture) of Summer Palace(頤和園) and Yuan Ming Yuan(圓明園)?
@rayx8329
@rayx8329 10 күн бұрын
颐和园、圆明圆,北京现在仍然有遗址在那里
@edmurks236
@edmurks236 2 жыл бұрын
Shameful disgusting wanton vandalism of one of the greatest wonders of the Ancient world."Greatest act of cultural vandalism ever" is an apt description..There was/is NO justification for this uncivilized barbaric act against an ancient civilization. An act of uncivilized barbarians just to "teach the Chinese a lesson."!All these stolen treasures should be given back. The British also stole thousands of mummies from Egypt (among a great many other treasures)and shipped them back to Britain where they were ground up for "medicine. The British also swindled a rare expensive irreplaceable diamond from an Indian boy king aged 11. These are just the tip of the iceberg stolen , damaged/vandalized , to make the exorbitantly rich , great "British Empire".
@safuwanfauzi5014
@safuwanfauzi5014 2 жыл бұрын
I not suprised, British did to Javanese palace to, we remember as 'Geger Sepehi" in 1812, the looting of treasture, gold, rare item, manuscript, jewerely, and burning and plunder of palace complex. British do to many historical palace complex, in Burma, Malay archipelago and India were many gold, artifact manuscript and jewerly are the best.
@edmurks236
@edmurks236 2 жыл бұрын
@@safuwanfauzi5014 These facts should be widely spread/known. I didn't know about their other countries looting's but of course they would have. The British "Empire" and extreme wealth and power would have been nothing without their ravishing of the rest of the world and their colonies. Now they are poor again but their former glory days are gone and the world is wary of them now even though they are still trying hard to get into Russia (through the Ukraine war )for its resources and stirring up trouble in Hong Kong.
@safuwanfauzi5014
@safuwanfauzi5014 2 жыл бұрын
@@edmurks236 in 1812, the gold alone they loot about "57 tone of gold, not included the copper, bronze item, precious stone and metal. the statue and artifact.
@edmurks236
@edmurks236 2 жыл бұрын
@@safuwanfauzi5014 Yes disgraceful thieves and now they have the audacity to lecture the Chinese and Indians on how to behave. They are Big joke really or worse.
@gentoffire
@gentoffire 8 ай бұрын
I tell my fellow countryman in China, British Museum is the best education for us Chinese, for now and for the foreseeable future. We will always be reminded how poor how vunerable how ignorant we were. Not knowing what's going on around the earth, defied our own ancenstral edification for in prosperity thinking of adversity(居安思危). Our civilisation were almost completely eradicated from the planet for hundres of years. But luckily, we were given a second chance, a chance to rebuild. We just have to remember one thing, never again, ever. We should never be cornered into such cul-de-sac. We can't afford to lose our civilisation again, our pride.
@erluberlub3446
@erluberlub3446 8 ай бұрын
British also looting a huge gold and etc. in "Keraton Jogja" (Central Java, Indonesia) .. !!
@edwardpatrickdetrafford-mo8347
@edwardpatrickdetrafford-mo8347 2 жыл бұрын
⚔️A priceless treasured photos & history. ThX. But, the music which is supposed to be for back ground, sometimes over whelmed Ur narration.🛡
@tomhill2376
@tomhill2376 2 жыл бұрын
Was this the same Lord Elgin who stole the Parthenon marbles?
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
This Lord of Elgin (James Bruce, the 8th Earl of Elgin) is the son of the Lord Elgin (Thomas Bruce, 7th Earl of Elgin) who is best known for stealing the Parthenon Marbles. It's confusing given that they have the same title and are both infamous for taking/destroying foreign historical artefacts - you could say that the two serve as a good example of the phrase "like father, like son"
@user-hu7io5th8w
@user-hu7io5th8w 8 ай бұрын
Love the Channel!
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@philipwood9526
@philipwood9526 2 жыл бұрын
Those responsible for this terrible act should be charged and put on trial.
@alvanrigby6361
@alvanrigby6361 2 жыл бұрын
Yes dig up the corpses.
@marrrtin
@marrrtin 9 ай бұрын
Funny to me that the Elgin who ordered this act of cultural destruction was the son of the man who took the friezes in the Parthenon.
@luoluojack6282
@luoluojack6282 3 жыл бұрын
so sad about that!
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is a great tragedy!
@canopyfields
@canopyfields 2 жыл бұрын
The Chinese alchemists created gunpowder in their quest to find the immortal pill for the emperor, but the Europeans used it as weapon
@frankyong2607
@frankyong2607 2 жыл бұрын
After the discovery of gunpowder making and use, the Chinese during the Sung Dynasty period did use gunpowder explosive effectively as bombs, rockets (that fly) and canon/guns. These weapons were documented in military drawings. It was the lack of knowledge that later the West would maintain the myth that Chinese only used the gunpowder (that they themselves discovered) for firecrackers.
@priscillaferguson267
@priscillaferguson267 8 ай бұрын
I wonder how many students in Hong Kong were ever taught this history about the wars and thievery committed by the British and France in China.
@franciscouderq1100
@franciscouderq1100 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes later, the question “is Paris burning?” came from Berlin. Thanks God it didn’t take place and the question never answered..
@wallace5576
@wallace5576 3 жыл бұрын
Well Done!
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wallace!
@爱新觉罗努尔吉特
@爱新觉罗努尔吉特 2 жыл бұрын
the picture on the beginning is New Summer palace, not the old one
@BygoneChina
@BygoneChina 2 жыл бұрын
That is true, it actually dates from the late 19th century, several decades after the burning of the old Summer Palace. Although I could only source a painting of the new summer palace for the animation, it is still the same complex, and I believe that it still serves its purpose in helping to visualize the story for the audience.
@frankyong2607
@frankyong2607 2 жыл бұрын
@@BygoneChina "..... it is still the same complex". Could you please explain?
@Butterflylion1
@Butterflylion1 8 ай бұрын
It was British and French troops
@reubenallen7789
@reubenallen7789 8 ай бұрын
Looting is a sad but very common part of war and conquest. I don’t know why so many in the comments are acting as if it’s only the British who did this. When whatever country they are typing that from did the same at one point. Terrible, but not unique.
@catintheoven
@catintheoven 8 ай бұрын
Yeah China terrorised it’s neighbours for thousands of years before the British arrived. How much of what was in the palace was “tribute”. China is only mad because for 100 years out of two and a half thousand the shoe was on the other foot. Even the video mentions they were executing prisoners.
@nickw-r5y
@nickw-r5y Ай бұрын
@@catintheoven You are equivocating. The so-called tribute is a form of trade, representing the tributary trade, not plunder and robbery.
@nickw-r5y
@nickw-r5y Ай бұрын
Because the video shows a specific event. War is often accompanied by looting, and no one denies this statement. But your comment is clearly an evasion, as if you were caught stealing, the amount was significant, and then you loudly complained that many people steal but only I am being judged.
@rayx8329
@rayx8329 10 күн бұрын
@catintheoven It seems that you have never understood what tribute is. China’s tribute has always been a loss. Other countries only need to hand over some specialties and precious items to get more valuable things from China. This is why China’s late Ming Dynasty Some countries were refused to pay tribute because the Ming Dynasty had no more money.
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