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@CatotheE Жыл бұрын
I really like the Tyrells, man. They're like the Lannisters, but smart enough to maintain good publicity. They're so OP.
@visionofsolace8961 Жыл бұрын
They are ruthless but most of the time they try to make the lives of the non noble people less shitty, well, as on their terms as possible but you know...When the people are basically not starving and not dropping dead with sickness I call this a win.
@CatotheE Жыл бұрын
@@visionofsolace8961 Yeah. Every Great House seems to hate the Lannisters by the start of asoiaf except for the Tyrells and the Greyjoys. Tywin's house became strong, but the way he went about it made his family reviled. And now that he's dead, it's all falling apart.
@realdaggerman105 Жыл бұрын
Remember the position they’re in. The Gardener’s were probably much more like the Lannisters. An ancient, proud, wealthy and legendary house whose hubris led to their destruction. Now, these up-jumped stewards who never raised a castle in their lives take over one of the most successful regions on the continent. Over the Gardener’s very powerful, related, ambitious historical vassals. They were moulded in the flames of malcontent and envy which no other great house has had to face. Love helps!
@breezy6859 Жыл бұрын
They’re nothing like the Lannisters. That’s an insult to Margaery and Olenna
@CatotheE Жыл бұрын
@@realdaggerman105 This is true. They're an upjumped family that became the 2nd greatest House in Westeros 300 years ago. They're sort of like the Freys in that people resent how powerful they are even though they're upjumped. But the Tyrells are much better at PR. I love those guys.
@Vmac1394 Жыл бұрын
I really despise how the show made Loras into a gay stereotype who slept with every man who could. "When the sun has set no candle can replace it" sums up who Loras is. He's an honorable and devoted man, not a f*ckboy.
@benderthepirate Жыл бұрын
The Tyrells probably have the strongest vassals out of any great house, it is actually insane. The Hightowers are ancient, powerful, super rich and rule Oldtown; the Redwynes have the largest navy in Westeros and are rich from trade; the Tarly army is a military powerhouse, the Florents are also super rich, etc. Even some are only begrudgingly loyal (since some view the Tyrells as upjumped stewards) they will answer their liege if called upon. The Tyrells are the most powerful house to be sure.
@devinneill13103 ай бұрын
I’ve been thinking this for a long while too. Like compared to other kingdoms the Tyrell’s have the best bannermen. The others individually have their own good ones, ex: Daynes with Martells, Royces with Arryns, Blackwoods/Brackens with Tullys, Velaryons with Targs, but they’re few in each kingdom. The Tyrells consistently have numerous powerhouses who as you said are usually loyal unless there’s other circumstances, like the Florents.
@andreademarchi74952 ай бұрын
The Reach is hands down the most OP region of Westeros.
@kronosbach52632 ай бұрын
The issue with the Reach I'd say is that it's so large with so many types of vassal that it's really hard to direct them all in the same direction
@karimabidi83122 ай бұрын
Also the reach is the second biggest region, only the north is bigger. Thanks to the geological circumstances the reach has the most people and so also the biggest army
@QuinnTheGM Жыл бұрын
Mace the Ace will 1v1 Aegon and name himself king of Westeros (it was revealed to me in a dream)
@handlejl225 Жыл бұрын
It is known
@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын
Source: 3 bottles of Arbor Gold
@mad156 Жыл бұрын
It is known
@alfieingrouille1528 Жыл бұрын
My two favorite asoiaf youtubers in the comments nice I love the vids keep up the good work you absolute mad lads
@alfieingrouille1528 Жыл бұрын
@@fantasyhaven1 love the vids my guy I have been watching for a while now so I have decided to subscribe keep up the good work 😁
@shawnnbits Жыл бұрын
I love how theyre fairy tale characters in this hyperrealistic medieval setting. The tyrells have a vibe like no other family but that makes them stand out.
@andreademarchi74952 ай бұрын
Everyone wants to be a Targaryen,a Lannister,a Stark...but being a Tyrell in time of peace is probably the best position in the world. You're rich like the royal family (or even more at time),you live in a wonderful place with warm weather and plenty of food,you have a lot of political influence but at the same time you have great vassals that are mostly loyal and can govern themselves
@BatFlash52 Жыл бұрын
Show: Margaery, hands freaking down, no contest. Books: Willas, very annoyed he wasn’t included in the show. Willas, to me, always feels like he’s being set up for something, maybe he’ll join Faegon because He’s friendly with the Martells or save Oldtown from Euron, somehow, or just continue to be a good big brother to Garlan because that story was so wholesome. Side note: Garlan is also very cool, hope he takes back the Shield Islands, I think he could do it. I want all three of them to survive, Martin, please don’t do the Tyrell’s dirty like the show.
@BatFlash5210 ай бұрын
@@محمدعثمان-ق3ش It’s short for Fake Aegon
@marconatalizio9408 Жыл бұрын
I can't decide if I prefer Willas or Garlan, I hope they survive till the end
@realdaggerman105 Жыл бұрын
Willas is the brains, Garlan is the brawn, and Loras is the looks. (Mace the Ace is all of them in one divinely supreme being).
@Ilivedbih Жыл бұрын
Did we actually "see" Willas yet? Other than other people describing him. I haven't finished the books that are out yet.
@DarkVeghetta7 ай бұрын
In the show, Olenna is by far my favorite Tyrell and my second favorite character overall, just behind the man, the legend, The Lion, Tywin Lannister himself. Honorable mention goes to Stannis, which was my favorite character initially, but the show decided to go off the rails and completely ruin him by converting him into a religious fanatic that burned his only daughter, going against everything he was prior to that point.
@fantasyhaven17 ай бұрын
You must've loved the famous Olenna-Tywin scene then
@hfar_in_the_sky2 ай бұрын
Finding out just how interesting and involved the history of House Tyrell was just makes me infinitely more pissed at how dirty they were done in the later seasons of GoT
@Mr135Jonathan3 ай бұрын
One interesting pattern for the Tyrells through history is their curious allegiance to the Targaryens. It's not that they "always aside with the dragons" (the dance has them stay neutral); Instead the Tyrells "Never side against a dragon"
@JustAGuyWhoLikesStuff.Ай бұрын
Flowers do poorly in flame.
@rzionrnrzfm592519 күн бұрын
I mean they saw what happened at the filed of fire when the gardeners tried to stand up to the dragons.
@lucascantzler4357 Жыл бұрын
One Problem though, Mace supported Renly who had a weaker claim than Stannis and justified it that he has a large army and he is popular because he charmant If Renly won the Iron Throne, he would Set up the precedent that everyone with a claim, a big army and mayhaps popularity can become the next Lord or even King. The recipe for endless Civil war He then Supports the Lannister Regime , for which i don't need an explanation
@J1000510 ай бұрын
They easily could have done the PR that Joffrey was a insane usurping bastard (which he is) and that Stannis is a demon worshipper who wants to destroy the Faith making Renly the rightful heir since he's defending Andal Values.
@davidlewis53125 ай бұрын
That's already the precedent, starting with Aegon 1
@NightDweller5 ай бұрын
House frey is older than Baratheon and tyrell as proper lords yet are hated as the new house round the block for some reason
@LucasLopes-qg8kcАй бұрын
Because house Baratheon have the Storm King blood, blazon and motto. The Freys are only a minor house with no relevant relations until Walder Frey.
@Nebuchadnezzar2003 Жыл бұрын
Another great collaboration between the best duo since Ned and Bobby b
@Vanquish.0909 Жыл бұрын
I chose the perfect time to get back into ASOIAF lore. Hope both of your channels continue to grow and thrive!
@aegorbittersteel2154 Жыл бұрын
A perfect animation as always House Peake is the superior House of course, having the skilled knight Lord Gormon Peake loyal to the True Kings Long Live House Blackfyre and The Heroic Lord Haven.
@realbabyeater Жыл бұрын
The Peakes are sorta impressive just cause they’ve managed to not be exterminated after being on the wrong side of every conflict in Westeros ever
@aegorbittersteel2154 Жыл бұрын
@@realbabyeater it does seem to be a strange skill they have them and the Boltons
@dbilly1212 күн бұрын
Leo sees it all, he's the Lord during the Dance, being only 3 at the start, Lord as well during the First Blackfyre Rebellion, man lived large
@Aloyz3n Жыл бұрын
damn Mace Tyrell is so much better in the books, show turned one of the most important high lords into a comic relief
@monkeywizard7919 Жыл бұрын
Every new video you make becomes a new favorite of mine. Love the animation style mixed with dense lore information. Great content!
@leminnie7 Жыл бұрын
Lord Haven really be living like a Tyrell, Growing Strong! Great video!
@The_Malcontented2 ай бұрын
We must not forget that Willas Tyrell's leg getting crippled was a pure accident. Oberyn knocked him off his horse just as is supposed to happen to one of the jousters, but Willas's foot caught in his stirrup as he fell, pulling his horse down onto his leg and crushing it. Had Willas's opponent been basically anyone other than a Dornishman, it would have been lamented as a tragic accident and that would have been the end of it. It is only because it was Oberyn that had knocked him off the horse that Mace and Olenna (but NOT Willas, as Quinn mentions,) have renewed animosity to Dorne, the Martells, and especially Oberyn personally.
@Blake84838 Жыл бұрын
Really like envisioning the Gardeners as very similiar to the tyrells but with darker green hair and dark green eyes
@Tr33ba1t5 ай бұрын
I think it is interesting how the tyrells expose the flaws of House Lannister. For example the founding myth of the Lannisters is that they were founded by "Lann the clever", yet they almost exclusively retain their power through wealth and the brute force that comes with it. The Tyrells on the other hand stay true to their roots, and while they play at being knights in shining armor they maintain their power through clever administration and good politics
@oscarredfearn3492 Жыл бұрын
House Tyrell my beloved 😍
@phillipbeckpinborg6456 Жыл бұрын
Was going to the club an hour before your video was set to be posted and was genuinely upset. W post club video keep up the tgood work
@youngoutlaw51509 ай бұрын
They remind me more of house, Velaryon because both their families receive a position in court notches the individual, but it was like it was part of the inheritance as being a member of the house only one of them be kind to successor to the house they served
@krimzonstriker7534 Жыл бұрын
I believe Leo Longthorn also took part against the Blackfyre rebels in the Reach during the first Blackfyre rebellion at least according to the World of Ice and Fire book.
@xpertcraft Жыл бұрын
House Blackwood next?
@hugojones43466 ай бұрын
You should do the Arryns
@WaywardWhiteWalker8 ай бұрын
Oooooh, it was Little Finger and him alone that did the deed that killed Joffry. It was Tywin he was after with the lemon cream.
@WaywardWhiteWalker8 ай бұрын
I'm sure when the bells started ringing Peter almost shat his pants.
@gen1693 ай бұрын
isnt littlefinger's target tyrion not tywin?
@ElanPlotkin Жыл бұрын
great video. would love a video discussing why gthe iron born exsist or explaining either the red viper or high tower
@MKLettis8 ай бұрын
Hope the Tyrells are able to make it out of the story okay.
@fantasyhaven18 ай бұрын
Same!
@RellshouldBsleep4 ай бұрын
The house that got me into Game of Thrones!
@Spindacre11 ай бұрын
My favourite house! Thank you for this.
@leeshropshire63462 ай бұрын
They totally tricked the gardeners
@ilovemesomme Жыл бұрын
You guys both make great content, keep on keeping on!
@aprilmae274 Жыл бұрын
...did you just say, "Schroedinger's Loras"? I'm effin dyin' over here lol
@giacomoromano8842 Жыл бұрын
About the Purple Wedding, i dig Preston Jacob theory. Is one of the least insane and better made, with some solid arguments about it. Someone tried to poison tyrion through his pie, and Joffrey, little gluttonous bastard that he was, eat it and die, accidentally and ironically saving Tyrion.
@chadsummerchild1120 Жыл бұрын
How’d Gareth get a copy of winds and how do I get one.
@biraptor6205 Жыл бұрын
Oh hey a house with a rose emblem, this reminds me of the defiently not known war of the
@thing_under_the_stairs Жыл бұрын
And that sigil isn't drawn exactly like a York or Lancaster rose done up in gold at all...
@fidalf99Ай бұрын
To be honest, many european houses have a rose with five petals in their heraldry. I've always found parallels between tje Tyrells and Bohemian noble house of Rosenberg. Both are regarded as southern residing in the most fertile region of the land, are amongst the richest and have ambitions for the throne.
@autotalerz57683 ай бұрын
2:19 it was Mern IX, not VI like Quinn said
@Carsonplaysgamessss Жыл бұрын
I love the Tyrells 😩
@YwY-ct5yq4 ай бұрын
I always lived the Tyrells ever since they were my team name in a GOT themed Intramurals in my school....
@bloodmods Жыл бұрын
I love your collaborations with Quinn! love the video, too
@WaywardWhiteWalker8 ай бұрын
I mean, come on. It's difficult to get 100 (let alone 10) scorpions to wait for the rope to be pulled. Someone put alooooot of time into that one.
@bradwolf07 Жыл бұрын
The Queen of Thorns is my favorite
@colshotlp9692 Жыл бұрын
Wonder what the next Video will Be wonderfull Charakter Animation
@davidmilburn6556 ай бұрын
All the cartoon characters are great but Margaery particularly made me giggle.
@twelve11 Жыл бұрын
The BEST family
@jgr7487 Жыл бұрын
Survive Young Griff's invasion? My bet is that they'll join Young Griff's forces.
@Ace-cr9qt Жыл бұрын
You should do a video about the Starks
@Progamerr_0627 күн бұрын
At 2:24 wjo is the artist that did aegon
@denniscowe3289 Жыл бұрын
You should do an animated video on the battle of the bastards
@adambarleyii3357 Жыл бұрын
Another banger
@dukeofkeredon31094 ай бұрын
You didn't mention Martyn Tyrell who was made the master of coin after the death of Rego Draz.
@InterestingNerdClub Жыл бұрын
🎵How did a family of Reachmen, sons of the rose, barely stewards 🎵caught in a real tough spot in Aegon's Conquest, 🎵even while their lords were overwhelmed 🎵rise up to be the strongest in the realm?
@davidlewis5312 Жыл бұрын
They probably had a backdoor deal with Aegon (probably not Aegon himself but Visenya or Orys) to surrender Highgarden
@rockyporterjr4215 Жыл бұрын
They will never be published grrm’s heart is gonna implode before that happens
@erickonami1 Жыл бұрын
Garlan Tyrell FTW
@Ay-ym2gh Жыл бұрын
Do house karstark or umber great north
@Abdullah_Ayad Жыл бұрын
I don't think it's a good idea to state the Olena and little finger scheme as factual since it's not conformed in the books....excellent video nonetheless 🔥👍🔥👍
@محمدعثمان-ق3ش10 ай бұрын
Why?
@alanmike6883 Жыл бұрын
Gotta do house's Royce And redwyne someday 😊
@billcipherproductions1789 Жыл бұрын
House Lannister next, please.
@safruddinaly5822 Жыл бұрын
Greyjoy next hopefully
@LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989 Жыл бұрын
They did the Tyrell’s so dirty in the show.
@aaronabarca4919 Жыл бұрын
Schrodinger's Loras😂😂😂😂
@YwY-ct5yq4 ай бұрын
YES MARCH ON THE FAITHMACE AND FREE MARGAEEY
@alanmike6883 Жыл бұрын
Margerie would've been a Great queen And tomnen a king in time. What's your favourite tyrells and why?
@KingStark328 ай бұрын
What was the video game you showed in the beginning of the video? It looked sic
@HBpenman Жыл бұрын
Favorite has to be Willas
@sch9221t Жыл бұрын
Soooo when are we going to accept the fact that Quin and Fantasy are the same person?
@thing_under_the_stairs Жыл бұрын
We have another ASX/Glidus situation here? I missed when this fandom went completely off the rails, I think.
@axel5982 Жыл бұрын
"Late Lord Haven"
@mementomori771 Жыл бұрын
Good video definitely improved my opinions of the tyrells overall but mace and his spawn are all schemers or worse
@PzY-Reviews3 ай бұрын
Can we get house Tarly/ Sams and dickon and rickin tarlys house
@Khaled9111 ай бұрын
It's funny that Loras Tyrrell is a knight of the "rainbow guard"! Especially when you consider what the rainbow flag is associated to today 😂😂🌈
@bigloopsie8 ай бұрын
funny enough, grrm actually did not mean for that to happen, which is very funny.
@TrissTess7 ай бұрын
Schroedingers Loras 😂😳
@euCelsoX Жыл бұрын
You really thought that we wouldn’t catch that “one true king” bs when talking about Stannis
@tempertempernow Жыл бұрын
Yaaaaassssss
@durrangodsgrief6503 Жыл бұрын
0:02 the most convoluted and bs extinction in the entire lore which makes no sense for a house that large