The History of Númenor (Rise and Downfall) - Region Spotlight

The land of Númenor was the island of the Dúnedain (the Men of the West) during the Second Age. This land produced many strong heroes, but as time went on, pride and arrogance caused the Downfall of Númenor. However, the catastrophe would allow for the creation of great kingdoms in Middle-Earth. Thank you all so much for watching, please let me know your thoughts on the history of Númenor in the comments below! As always, a great thanks to the online artists whose visual works made this video possible! If you are one of the artists, please let me know and I will post your name and a link to your work in this description!
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[@jmiester25]

In my humble opinion, the story of Numenor is the most important story in Tolkien's Legendarium.

[@aarondavis8943]

It's also his finest piece of writing. Akallabeth is an example of how precision and poetry can live together in perfect harmony. Tolkien's work is often falsely described as "flowery" but when reading the Akallabeth one can see that the opposite is true: there isn't a single extraneous word in the entire work.

[@michaelgriffith5747]

Why?

[@blakehawkes9597]

@@aarondavis8943 also some of us like flowery 👉👈

[@judithstevehennenvacca8827]

Why?

[@johngeiger3770]

Yep. It captures the human condition very well. The grass is always greener on the other side.

[@Ruosteinenknight]

Everyone wants to see Silmarillion adapted into a movie, but what they really should do is an adaptation of Akallabêth. It probably would be very depressing to watch one of the greatest empires what men ever build to fall in ruin by Sauron's corruption and treachery, but damn it would be awesome to see Sauron on his prime and detail everything he did to turn the hearts of men to evil. We could actually see why they call him "Sauron the deceiver".

[@Om-id1qr]

Hope the Peter Jackson somehow sees this comment

[@abeschreier]

RustyKn1ght and that’s exactly why Amazon is placing their first LOTR show in the 2nd age, can’t wait!

[@gilgamesh8334]

Om Shetye not Peter Jackson pls too much garbage CGI

[@MaXiMoS54]

I mean it makes more sense from a budget perspective. You save a bunch of money by avoiding all the fight scenes, which is basically what Sauron was actually trying to do to begin with.

[@ashikakumar4281]

And here we are getting exactly what you asked for

[@iksarguards]

Sauron: Alright there’s a lot of them. Time to improvise. Smash cut to Numenör sinking into the sea

[@upschutt4842]

Imagine Amazon actually caring for the lore. It would have been an epic story.

[@grandlotus1]

Love how you use all levels of fan art. Really reflects the love that so many of us have for Tolkein's masterworks.

[@Apollo1989V]

Tar Palantir's attempts at returning the people back to Eru and the Valar were inspired by the biblical king Josiah. Both men tried to turn their people back to God (Eru is equivalent of God in Tolkien's mythology, with the Valar as archangels), but their attempts were futile because the people did not go along with the repentance.

[@MrBigCookieCrumble]

Was just about to comment this, the resemblance of the stories is clear to see and rather touching. Much like Josiah tried to get the people of israel to celebrate passover again, Tar Palantir tried to go back to worshipping Eru again. There are many other things like this both in Tolkien's work as well as C.S. Lewis'.

[@johnycoho7830]

Well not quite futile Josiah bought Judah some time before Babylon invaded, and many of that generation repented it is because of this that God made sure Judah wasn't conquered until after the death of Josiah. Because one of the Kings before Josiah was evil and also did human sacrifices and led the people to do the same, God said Judah and Jerusalem would be destroyed. When Josiah became king and he and many of the people repented judgment was pushed back. Unfortunately Josiah's children were not like their father and were also did evil. Had they never gone astray but remained steadfast like Josiah it is likely that it would have been much longer before Judah was conquered.

[@zachstevens7382]

Mr BigCookie well they both are christians and tolkien helped lead cs Lewis to jesus who use to be an atheist scholar. anyway. tolkien didn't mean for his work to be... I'm not sure the exact correct word. an allegory ? tolkien didn't mean for his work to reflect exactly on our world today and it's history. it is a separate entity created with its own story maybe inspired by his beliefs and our history and myths legends his life experiences and what he saw as good and bad etc... :)

[@zachstevens7382]

Mr BigCookie cs Lewis did more of that with his fantasy works like the chronicles of Narnia. tolkien has always expressed his work to be separate of our world today with no exact reflective examples. the lion in narnia is jesus while eru in lotr lore is a god figure who sung all life into being. he created the Valar to tame and create life on middle earth. he just set it into motion. morgoth seems to be the devil figure though and sauron like so with sin I guess but like I said, tolkien didn't desire this kind of cross reference. the Valar were maybe angels but also not. because they could create and manage life like a god themselves. the Maiar maybe we're angel like or fallen angel like.

[@Apollo1989V]

Although the kings abandoned taking their ruling names in High Elvish, their High Elvin ruling names were still recorded because they were still fearful of breaking this tradition.

[@jordanthomas7798]

Jason Motsinger Tar Calion?

[@cpegg5840]

Royal pussies. Can’t go all the way with their beliefs. No respect from me

[@KatBaumgarten]

It's so fascinating to see Sauron as more than a giant armor. The legendarium expands on Sauron's intelligence and resorcefulness, but it's sometimes hard to grasp it within the history of middle earth. Absolutely fantastic video, Yoystan. Thank you and congrats!!

[@tomashize]

Yes. Very interesting to see him brought low and having to play the trickster. There is some Loki there and some Littlefinger. I love the idea of him seducing and corrupting Numenor rather than simply using brute force.

[@NoQuarterNoMercy1]

This is better than the first 5 episodes of The Rings of Power.

[@Wanderer628]

I mean I sympathise with those who hated the Valar. The Valar came and saved the Elves from Morgoths manipulations at the dawn of their creation, then invited them to come and live with them in a virtual paradise where everything is immortal and nothing dies. Then the first Men awake and they have no one to guide them but a divine being (Morgoth in disguise) who teaches them about the world and to fear the Valar. They were children listening to the only adult in sight because the Valar weren't interested in beings that did not possess the beauty or grace of Elves. Now Men couldn't go to Valinor, as living there would torment them with their own mortality and not allow them to grow into a distinct people, forever being looked down on by the Immortal beings around them. But they should have been protected at their conception from the evils that tainted the world, and the fact that the Valar sat back and did nothing is a mark of shame on them. The Numenoreans should have put everything into claiming Middle Earth and just ignored the West. It would be interesting to see where the world would be if they had done so. If men being corrupted by Morgoth is symbolism for Adam and Eve being corrupted by the snake and apple then it is a poor one. Adam and Eve were WARNED by God not to eat from the Apple tree. Men of LOTR never had that. They woke and listened to the only divine being who came before them.

[@whiteknightcat]

So basically, we're blaming the inherent evil in Men on "bad parenting".

[@tehhypo]

Well, it was a little more complicated than that. The Valar taught the Numenoreans civilization in the beginning, and they were completely confused about why Men were so hung up on living forever, since Elves and the Valar thought of immortality as a disadvantage--basically, you live forever, but you have to watch the world change around you, and all your mortal friends die. Now, I'm less willing to forgive the Valar for giving up hope on the non-Edain Men of Middle-earth. I mean, all the non-Edain can go screw themselves, and they have to live in terror of Sauron and Morgoth's monsters for three thousand years, because SOME of them fought for Morgoth. Thanks for being racist, Valar.

[@animalia5554]

tehhypo The inherit problem with aesops like this is that there’s no way to now how people would react to them in real life. Would they be upset to watch the world change or would they find it an exciting adventure with each new thing that comes? On watching your mortal friends die. The problem with that question is two fold. One since they are the only ones who ARE mortal is it possible the feelings would be different if EVERYONE was immortal? Second, some people might always be sad about watching the people they love die, but they could *also* take a glass half full approach and see things as a chance to make new friends. In short, it’s a matter of perspective and without know way to now how real people would act towards immortality, the idea that EVERYONE would look at it the SAME seems weird. The idea that some might view it as a curse, some a gift, and some as something in between makes more sense to me. But then, we have to remember how old Tolkien is, it makes sense that others have taken the theme and have refined it. See the manga UQ Holder for a discussion on the pros and cons of immortality. But be prepared for fanservice.

[@santiagosancho2317]

@@whiteknightcat the other way around would be like blaming kids for the things they do when unsupervised. Its true, basically the Valar gave a shit about humans from the beginning

[@PADARM]

The Elves were jealous of the mortality of Men and Men were jealous of the immortality of the Elves

[@TheSpearkan]

Ar-Pharazon: "Marches with an army on Valinor to overthrow the Valar" Eru: Do you want to explode?

[@cpegg5840]

More like buried under rubble lol Shame about his poor cousin-wife Tar-Miriel tho; she could’ve got in a ship with the Faithful but chose to climb Meneltarma when megatsunamis were approaching from every direction. At least she’s not trapped in a cave till the end of the world like her husband I guess

[@deathstroke2697]

It is happening. The future tv show will be about Second Age.

[@atmas1337]

Doubt the show will do the story any justice... considering entertainment medias recent track record..

[@ulrichgrigo4549]

atmas1337. Yes, the Hobbit was a travesty. Hope the Amazon series is more than just a CGI fest, and more faithful to the spirit of Tolkien

[@GhANeC]

asoiaf/goT started off decently, for a reduced adaptation but then...

[@Hieroglyph777]

Seeing amazons cast for the WoT series they are producing i have no hope for it, just another woke sjw cringefest.

[@thelyle1399]

I loved The Hobbit. Didn’t see much difference between the licenses taken on the LOTR trilogy. The filmography was perfect, the flow of the story was great and the addition of Arzog a treat. It’d be impossible to translate the Legendarium flawlessly, without being pointless. You can READ IT as is.

[@giulioaprati338]

Numenoreans, be careful not to choke on your aspirations

[@ATK1734]

Heh, heh, heh: NAILED IT! - James Earl Jones(2016)

[@Ruosteinenknight]

Ironically Ar-pharazon got what he wanted: eternal life. It's just that he's now he's imprisoned till the end of time.

[@giulioaprati338]

Ruosteinenknight ironic

[@jordanthomas7798]

RustyKn1ght in the caves of the forgotten

[@notslavaboo]

Huh? Someone spelled Numenoreans correctly?

[@queirol2126]

Melkor: Turns elves into orcs, starts all sorts of mayhem for ages, millions die. Eru Illuvatar: Meh. Numenorians: Sends a fleet to Valinor. Eru Illuvatar: UNAPCEPTABLU. THE ENTIRE CITY MUST BE PURGED

[@kekedream]

Exactly 😂😂😂 So glad someone caught that!

[@michaeloliver5892]

I *think* Eru Illuvatar might have a "weakness" that is exposed by his reluctance to directly intervene in Arda. He is so *vast* and so *powerful* that he can't make Subtle Actions of Creation or Destruction. He can't raise a Lonely Mountain, he raises a Mountain Range when he tries. He can't crush a City, he sinks the entire island when he tries. That explains his reliance upon the Valar and the Maiar to get things done. It's not that he doesn't *want* to interfere... it's that he *can't* interfere without creating incalculable collateral damage in the process. Eru Illuvatar didn't need to *directly* intervene against Melkor's Evil, because the Valar and the Free People were more than a match for Melkor. Eru Illuvatar *did* need to intervene against the Numenorians, because the Valar and Maiar couldn't do anything about them... and there weren't really any other civilizations that could oppose Numinor. Eru Illuvatar was the only one that *could* intervene... and he did the big smashy thing.

[@baumkuchen6543]

Eru is just a bad parent and Melkor is a victim of his weak educational skills.

[@Justin-pe9cl]

Baum Kuchen Nah Melkor is just a selfish asshole.

[@JurzGarz]

@Baum Kuchen: Melkor was the only one out of all the Valar who decided to try and enslave the universe to his will.

[@Elendil513]

I've been waiting for this chapter for so long. I read the Silmarillion in the rolling hills of southern France when I was 16. Had many memories of sitting under old oak trees in 30C weather with not a cloud in the sky. One of the best summers of my life.

[@bboylilizzi]

You used my artwork (8:11).... yeeeeah! I am so excited. Thank you!!! Great video about Numenor, I must draw it again!!!

[@MenoftheWest]

Hey, that's awesome! Thank you for the great work! If you would like to be credited for it in the description, could you send me a message with your name and a link to your work! I'd love to give you and the original source credit if I am able!

[@bboylilizzi]

@@MenoftheWest That would be really appreciated. My name's Izzi Saeta Cabrera and here's the link to my work (feel free to use any others if they fit the description of what you are looking for): www.artstation.com/pixelatedbrush

[@MenoftheWest]

@@bboylilizzi Awesome, thank you for the response Izzi! You should now be cited in the description of this video! Thank you for creating such beautiful art, and I am honoured that you watched this video! Have a good one!

[@bboylilizzi]

@@MenoftheWest Thank you, I'm very grateful. I've watched tons of your videos and they are always great. Keeps Middle Earth alive. I will let you know when I make new LOTR related works, in the meantime, feel free to use anything you find on my site. All the best!

[@HexproofAnarchist]

Love your moral lesson at the end Yoysten. We can always become a better version of ourselves and never stop learning.

[@ANalbumCOVER001]

100 times more interested and invested in the history of Middle-Earth than my own.

[@AitorMorgado]

I wrote a short story concerning the fall of Númenor for the Spanish Tolkien Society 6 years ago. I was awarded the third prize and I was so excited for it, to the point that it was hard to believe it. Watching your videos reminded me of those days, when I spent so many hours reading Tolkien. The end of Númenor makes you think how short the life of men is. But maybe realizing that mortality allows us to cherish every single moment even more, and keep evil and arrogance at bay, as the faithful Númenóreans did. Thank you for your passion, I wish you the best.

[@leonellthelion]

Sucks that Numenor had to fall. The greatest kingdom of Men to exist.

[@zachstevens7382]

Leonell Cawayan I would argue it was gondor. the fought against sauron and won and didn't give into his bs.

[@zachstevens7382]

Leonell Cawayan greatest will not save you though. cool to see then at their adventures exploring middle earth. maybe amazon is working on this.

[@paulmayson3129]

It is true that Númenor was the greated kingdom of Men in Arda, which was even greater than many of the Noldor Realms in Beleriand. However it’s fall resulted in the creation of the largest kingdom in Arda, first of Gondor (which held Enedwaith, Gondor proper, Calenardhon, Harondor, Umbar and Near Harad, and the East Lands in Rhovanion) as well as the Reunited Kingdom with the unification of Gondor and Arnor under Elessar

[@johngeiger3770]

So great that they were able to fight against Morgoth and Sauron trembled and surrendered when the Numenoreans marched up to capture him. Only Arnor (for a while), Gondor and few other kingdoms remained as relics of Numenoreans.

[@hardonproductions3247]

MASSIVE fan of your videos & have been watching for many years now. Keep up the amazing work, I'll look back on these videos when i'm old and still marvel in the true storytelling nature and love you have & we all share for Tolkien's masterpieces.

[@anthonyharmon4561]

I came across this video to refresh my memory on Numenor's history and this has become the best telling of the island's history that I've ever heard! It covers all the major events and describes enough for even newcomers to get an idea of what the kingdom was like from beginning to end. I especially liked how Thunder Dreams was used as the background music as Numenor began to fall into shadow. The music was so haunting that for me it has become the music of Numenor's fall. Once again this is the best telling of the story that I've ever heard and I do hope Men of the West that in the future you make a video that covers even more details of Elenna and how it's beauty was truly something to behold and remember.

[@DCR1968]

The lore of this world is absolutely astounding. I am completely enthralled by it. You've an amazing channel. Please continue to do these incredible videos, as they've helped my understanding immensely. Thank you sir, and keep up the wonderful work.

[@squambiblio_1614]

Love your videos man. You're the reason I really got into Tolkein's lore. Awesome video! Keep it up!

[@gobigblue6782]

Such a great video encompassing the story of Numenor. Wow, great job this week. Keep them coming.

[@faizansyed7365]

Delighted to see the notification. Great video as always! Keep sharing the world of Tolkein with us!

[@shanemccoy8107]

Always good to hear from you man!

[@emanuelosorio9610]

One of my favorite books, Akallabeth, is just so tragically beautiful. Eru must have been sad to have done that.

[@ethanmcclain9410]

I love this channel so much, mostly because im obsessed with lotr and everything about it

[@drnknmaster]

YES!! I'm so glad you finally made this video! Thank you for this Yoystan. The Numenoreans were a wondrous race with so much awesome potential. Such a shame the way it all ended. They are easily my favorite fantasy race. Great job on the video!

[@chizadkenobi3240]

Big fan of your videos. Keep up the good work!

[@joshuajoel5092]

Dude well done. This video was perfection.

[@ErikGunnarDahlin]

Great as always, what makes your channel the greatest legendarium channel is that in the end you speak of the morality and lessons to be learned from the story, something that I believe is what Tolkien's writing is all about.

[@scottbergisch9307]

Love your vids. Even though i'm familiar with all the lore i still watch and enjoy them ;)

[@zachstevens7382]

I enjoyed this video so much. no other guy online does it as well and quite like you with so much visual and wording detail. it's like tolkien is reading it sharing his story he wrote himself. very well done good sir. this explains so much. thank you.

[@emperordemetrius3832]

I like the way you always put a moral of the story in the end!

[@jameswelsh3433]

I think you’re making excellent videos, and I especially like the messages, or lessons, that you put at the end. Thank you!

[@hindsightpov4218]

I love this channel. Keep up the good work.

[@alexn4309]

Thank u for a beautiful and inspiring video. As always - great narration.

[@williamcraig2050]

Instantly addicted to your videos - absolutely astounding.

[@DuelKingYami]

A star shines upon our meeting, my friend. Another amazing video and I thank you. As for future videos, maybe an epic character history on Elendil and Isildur? I know a bit about them but not as much as I'd like (for example your snippet there that Isildur stole a fruit from the White Tree and that became the first White Tree of Gondor planted in Minas Ithil? Incredible!) Thank you again for your videos - it is always a source of entertainment for me

[@GlorfindelofGondolin]

Nicely done. I always enjoy seeing your videos every week or when they come out. ;)

[@bacon81]

Great video as always bro

[@nerdyguy29]

Just got home vacation and this popped up on my recommended videos so of course I had to watch! I knew about Arnor and Gondor and that they descended from those of Numenor so I was very grateful to learn more about Numenor itself!

[@07laines07]

I just recently found you. Thank you Men of the West for teaching through your wonderful videos. You understand the importance, and honour of being a Man of the West.

[@RuedigerDrischel]

Kudos for this piece of work with great content and right morals.

[@codymcteer5898]

Another great video! Awesome job man 🙂

[@KoltiraMemeweaver]

I always get excited when you upload mate

[@KingGayCockroach]

Just finished reading the Silmarillion for the Fourth time after FINALLY getting my hands on a beautiful hardcover copy; Akallabeth had to be one of the most gut wrenching tales of Tolkien’s legendarium. Knowing what was to befall the men and what horrors they would then endure until they finally would reach their doom under Aragorn; it all made the Downfall of Numenor just so different to read. Great Video AS always :D.

[@virnan]

Great little speech at the end. It was very uplifting.

[@Peter-ri9ie]

These are so good! Keep it up ☀️

[@subscriptioncharitybegging1741]

Excellent video. Really enjoyed watching.

[@timonsolus]

The Lords of the Valar brought the Caliquendi to Aman, and that ended in disaster, because of Manwe's utter foolishness in allowing Melkor out of the Halls of Mandos. Much later, the Lords of the Valar brought the Edain to the island of Elessa, also called Andor, the "Land of Gift", to found the realm of Númenor - and that ended in disaster too, because Eönwë failed to capture Sauron, and the Valar failed to hunt him down afterwards. You'd think they would have learned from their first mistake - but no, they had to repeat it. So much for the 'wisdom' of the Valar.

[@zachstevens7382]

Tim Smith the punished morgoth and gave him a second chance. they got him back. his servant sauron was left to be dwelt with by their creation. they probably did what they were allowed to and had to be shut off after the war of wrath and move on. they sent wizard eagles elves wisdom and blessing numenoiens who remained faithful... it all ended up good in the end. don't be so cynical... it works out. that's just the story. men were meant to rule and dwell and the rest tame middle earth and be gone after it was all clear and good.

[@kekedream]

They say that Manwe literally cannot comprehend or understand evil and that Melkor literally cannot understand goodness- it's foreign to them so I think that's why Manwe and the rest of the Valar so gravely underestimated Melkor.

[@somewhere6]

If the Valar always acted perfectly, there would not be much of a story at all, just a whole lot of creatures happy as clams.

[@richardbergmark6722]

Excellent work!

[@joegirard9974]

Awesome video as usual! Thanks so much for all the work you put into this! One "what if" idea that I thought of the other day... What if Shelob hadn't stung Frodo?

[@chloelouisebotha2563]

You have no idea how much I love your videos :)

[@400KrispyKremes]

Thank you once again for transporting me to this magical World of Myth and Mystery. It's a great escape. One with which I take great solace.

[@MasterMahan-qm8hu]

Wonderful video, enjoy as always!!! Cheers

[@Zhohan-]

I read The Hobbit as a child and occasionally watch the LoTR trilogy extended edition, but I have always wanted to read the books and delve deeper into the beautiful universe Tolkien made. Your videos are beautifully told and with the backdrop of art, it further captivates the deeper lore to the viewer. These are amazing, and they've finally inspired me to get to reading the books.

[@kevinwessels4810]

I have been miserably sick all day, seeing this in my feed made me a little bit happier.

[@arcstrider5728]

Nicely done sir. 👏

[@SwedishDunedain]

The Jewel of Mankind and the ancestors of the Dunedain! Certainly my favorite part of the lore, great vid!

[@user-sd7ri9fy4i]

Nice work dude thanks

[@sageofcaledor8188]

Beautiful video!

[@lukeskywalkerthe2nd773]

Exellent video Yoystan! Sorry that i have missed quite a few recent videos, i have been a little busy in my personal life and i didn't really have much time to catch up (but i am now and i am really loveing your recent videos , especially the recent What if). But anyway, i am glad you did a video on one of my favorite kingdoms of Men that is Númenór. It is a kingdom so magnificent and beautiful, and it's a shame that the evil of Sauron had torn down it. But at least their was those faithful. And i really love it's similarity to the tale of Atlantis! :)

[@wvman2374]

Excellent vid as always. One note, the Numenoreans of the royal house (those descended from Elros/Tar-Minyatur) would live about 400 years while the Numenoreans not descended from Elros would live around 180-200 years. This posed an issue withe Tar-Aldarian who took as his wife Erendis who was not of the royal House, such that even though the began with great love for one another the difference in how they aged aided in the rift that rose between them. Thus they had but one child, a daughter Ancalime, and became separated thereafter. Not having a male hier Tar-Aldarian changed the custom that the eldest child would inherit the throne whether male or female, so that his only child would succeed him as opposed to his nephew Soronto. Aldarian also made it official law that the ruler must marry within the line of Elros, so as to avoid the issues that he himself endured. These changes in custom and law set the stage for later developments that eventually led to Ar-Pharazon's marriage to his cousin Tar-Miriel and the usurpation of her title. Later as Numenor drifted away from Eru and the Vala the lifespan of the royal line began to wane, such that by the time of Tar-Palantir they could expect to live to 200-250 years.

[@xejnvanituz4817]

very instructive and well done video. Just two points: 1) perhaps a separate video on the Black Numenorians 2) it would improve the quality of your videos if you would show the names of the special figures mentioned (just like you write the dates), for those like me who do not remember or know well the stories and persons mentioned. The subtitles do not always give the correct spelling.

[@jebpayne1710]

Great video, Children of Hurin video next!

[@denniscleary7580]

Jeb Payne I agree I would love to see a children of Hurin video

[@scottfree2248]

Wonderful video and history! I think another lesson is that a society can become corrupt if it looses concern for others and instead pursues only selfish desires! Corruption is only the prelude to the Fall of such a civilization!

[@ebeneezerscrooge8394]

Another great video

[@feartorren8794]

I love there is always something to learn from these stories

[@tomsherwin7077]

Great video, thanks very much :)

[@taylorpauljones]

Excellent video!

[@russ6187]

Aye you uploaded before midnight

[@beau_croom]

Russ Irons yeah he uploaded this 10:30 est

[@DamonNomad82]

Mae Govannen, Yoystan! Excellent video as always.

[@beau_croom]

Great! But the most exciting video you can do.............. THE BATTLE OF WRATH! I really wanna see something on the most powerful conflict ever in the history of Arda ✊️✊️✊️

[@ConejoZing]

Numenor's destruction and total ruin was the ultimate accomplishment of Sauron, more even than his rings. Sauron appeared as a fair priest among them and by treachery DESTROYED Numenor to the point their temples were to Melkor. Eru blew up the entire island (Mu, Atlantis) in punishment thus setting the stage for LOTR and Strider (Ranger) restoring Numenor.

[@republikadugave420]

Come 2021 we will have it on our screens

[@missinformed4269]

Excellent. A fine study.

[@plopolp9818]

Hahaha, the Numenoreans were flat-earthers.

[@unlimitedperseverance1706]

No. the earth used to be flat. BUT once Numenor became evil it was made round so men couldn't visit the valar anymore....

[@paulmayson3129]

@@unlimitedperseverance1706 No, as revealed by Tolkien in his chapter "Myths Transformed" in The History of Middle-earth Morgoth's Ring, the Silmarillion that we have is a collection of true stories which have passed to the people of the late Third Age (and thus to Biblo Baggins who translated them in Westron) via the people of Numenor, and thus it includes some mythical elements that were added as it describes the world from a mannish point of view. Because of this, while the Calaquendi (Light Elves of Aman) knew that Arda (the Earth) was always round or that Anar (the Sun) and Ithil (the Moon) were celestial objects and not fruits of Telperion and Laurelin, and that their Ainur merely protected them. Thus as the Numenorians actually lived in a spheric world but believed that they lived on a flat world, then they were flat earthers, and so was everyone in Middle-earth, except the Noldor and the Sindar (and maybe the other Quendi)

[@lovejesuschristlovejesus3398]

@@paulmayson3129 so the elves knew the planet was round and humans didn't? How

[@lovejesuschristlovejesus3398]

@@paulmayson3129 who told the elves ?

[@paulmayson3129]

The Calaquendi (Light Elves of Aman), such as the Vanyar, the Noldor and the Falmari, had this knowledge taught to them by the Ainur, the Valar and the Maiar, who were angelic/spiritual beings which helped Eru Illuvatar in the creation of the world. So they had direct knowledge of the shape of the world by those who helped make it.

[@discos2000]

I dare say there will be alot of people visitng or revisitng this video after Rings of Power, for me it's been near 10 years since I read the Silmarillion - but when I saw Numenor I totally fan-geeked and was so excited. Thanks for the video

[@michaeldavis9190]

I feel absolutely awful for not watching this video until a month after it came out... I even specifically asked for this video... I know there is almost no chance that you noticed that I haven't been commenting, but I still feel awful... This video was great and it answered most of the questions I had!

[@chaseboden1787]

Great video

[@drm2566]

Great job. Dean

[@keyboarddancers7751]

Andúnië is pronounced with a quick ee-ay sound at the end I believe. I can't get enough of your retellings of the great Professor's work.

[@alejandroelizondo7078]

Great video! You should do a “what if numeroreans never fell in Saurons manipulation (what if numenor never sank)”

[@samjames5134]

Great video always love these. Can you do a video about Tolkien’s inspirations.

[@sandragrace4613]

Great! Thank you!

[@smudgepost]

I didn't realise 3 of the 9 wraiths were from Númenor! Very interesting, going to look up more about this thanks

[@Cinemallennials]

Mae Govannen , In the next couple months this video is going to get a lot of views!

[@someonesomething2201]

A LOTr of views!

[@kingra2650]

such a good video ty

[@littleluckey]

This is amazing you are true storyteller :D

[@chabreed3714]

Great vid😉

[@archivalmars236]

Great video! Love the images and the way you explain the lore behind the Numenoreans. By the way if I may ask, where is the image from 2:21 from? It looks so fitting especially considering how such great mariners they were.

[@arcen3169]

Another incredible video. Do one on early Gondor and arnor

[@eddie.primus]

Love your videos. It would bi great if one day you could make a "what if" video in which the Númenoreans remain faithful to the Valar and the Elves.

[@tocolee6127]

This brother is killing it!

[@Imperialistic82]

Again, very good video. Can you talk little about the rumours about a young Aragorn show in your next video?

[@dolpahkiin5371]

Hello mate can you do a what if Numénor did not sink like you could say the valor devastated Numénor and not completely destroyed it

[@lukewarila1617]

They already tried devastating numenor before Ar Pharazon considered invading Valinor, manwe sent a bunch of lightning storms which killed many people.

[@faizansyed7365]

Luke Warila It was not manwe, Manwe laid down and asked Eru himself to take action on this matter and it was Eru who made the lightning confining them in the caves of forgotten

[@jasonburch8282]

I would love to see the history of Numenor in Amazons Tv series coming up. they could dedicate hole season, so much great material!!!