The History of Oneida Eagle Bows

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Dustin Apple

Dustin Apple

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@joeatkinson3770
@joeatkinson3770 7 жыл бұрын
Great to see you are recognizing the history of this very unique bow. The inventor, John Islas, happens to be my uncle and is originally from a small town in upstate NY called Lyon Mountain. This town is steeped with old time hunting tradition which certainly influenced his drive to be an innovator in the archery world. I still shoot the bow that uncle John personally gave my father decades ago as a gift.
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 7 жыл бұрын
thank you sir. I hope John appreciates my efforts. I tried very hard to gather as much information as possible.
@zboutdoors4144
@zboutdoors4144 6 жыл бұрын
Joe Atkinson can I deer hunt with a lever bow
@dustinh4175
@dustinh4175 5 жыл бұрын
I just got an old h riser with the hand cut limbs and no cutaway riser in Portland Oregon for 55 bucks and its actually in pretty good condition. I have a 91 strike eagle that has been used hard that I shot over a 100 carp with this spring spawn.
@dustinh4175
@dustinh4175 5 жыл бұрын
@@zboutdoors4144 yes there really accurate. Watch tim wells
@uvcoach42
@uvcoach42 3 жыл бұрын
Joe just to satisfy my memory did your uncle have Oneida representative named Jim I met him through another friend. It was very cool how all this came about. They were light and very forgiving bow. I had fears of catching a limb on a tree branch or something it never happened. And a power cable broke one time but all that did was open the limbs all the way.. I certainly regret selling that Screaming Eagle 600
@snaponjohn100
@snaponjohn100 2 жыл бұрын
I worked there in the mid 90’s. I was the last guy after assembly. I pulled them back for the first time, and then made sure that the limbs were aligned. I worked with John’s son. It was a small building just north of Syracuse, NY.
@stevedriscoll2539
@stevedriscoll2539 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing your bows on the covers of bowhunting magazines back in the early nineties. They looked awesome
@randyweaver3456
@randyweaver3456 2 жыл бұрын
Now that was a very interesting video - thanks much! I shot "for" Oneida (no salary, no contingencies, etc.) in Arizona back in the 80s and early 90s, but Oneida did build me a custom target bow they called the T-1000 and gave me a lot of Oneida goodies. It had a gloss white riser, pylons, inboard and outboard limbs with chrome plated timing wheels and cams. My club, the Huachuca Mountain Bowhunters, had an NFAA outdoor league that we called the "300 League" (NFAA 25 meter targets at 20, 25 and 30 yards, with five, four-arrow ends at each distance). I shot NFAA Bowhunter Limited (fingers) class and the T-1000 is the only bow with which I've ever shot a perfect score and I did it three times in those league shoots. I also won a lot of NFAA field and hunter rounds and got a lot of people interested in Oneida bows - in Arizona, the home of PSE. When it was fully tuned and locked down, it was the sweetest, most inherently stable and accurate arrow platform I've ever shot and I've been shooting for over 50 years now.
@vlodpg
@vlodpg 7 жыл бұрын
Nice shout out for Joe, He's put his heart & soul into the lever limb bow & CP Oneida.
@trevorpollock3024
@trevorpollock3024 4 жыл бұрын
Have just watchec your video. Absolutely EXCEPTIONAL. I live in Australia and bought a second hand Oneida AREOFORCE 60 - 80 pound in brand new condition in 1994.I usec it for years until retiring it and left it hanging on the wall as a show peice. Around 6 years ago I was looking through the internet & come across AMERICAN EAGLE BOWS owned by Joe.After a few emails I decided to get the bow fully rebuit. I ended up getting it powdercoated in gloss black with all new alloy cams,hinges all powdercoated in gold finshed with all stainless steel bolts with a Pollington sight done in black & gold. Now it is mounted on my wall as a show peice. I would love for you to write a book on the history of Oneida Bows as I for one would buy it along with a lot of others who love the lever action bow. EXCEPTIONAL VIDEO. HOPE YOU PUT PEN TO PAPER & WRITE A BOOK. Trevor.😊😊😊😊😊
@chrisfonden6431
@chrisfonden6431 2 жыл бұрын
I got my first deer with an Oneida screaming eagle. Sold it after several years. A little bit heavy to lug around the woods and the limbs kept twisting out. Just bought one again on eBay. From about the same year I’m pretty sure. 1990 or so . Got my first one around 1988 or 89 . I love it! I put my Keller pendulum sight on it . Same one from the original. I didn’t even have to adjust it
@bobcasteel4789
@bobcasteel4789 5 жыл бұрын
Sir you should write and publish this as a book! Call it The History of Oneida from conception to present.
@clifftaylor4712
@clifftaylor4712 2 жыл бұрын
I had an H-250, I believe it was. It came in the color black. Great shooting bow and i loved it and shot it well I think it was in the early 80's. I sold it a few years later and bought a High Country and never liked it or shot it as well as my Oneida!
@alexholt2387
@alexholt2387 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to thank you sir for the obvious effort and passion you have put into this exceptional little video. Dont know how many times ive watched it, each time i take in a little more and my knowledge and understanding of these bows grows with it. Keep em coming , and "may the froth be with you"🤙
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@deepiper6529
@deepiper6529 Жыл бұрын
I had an H250 back in the 80's. It was a great bow. You could quiet them down very easily. I shot mine at 60 lb draw weight with 2216 and 2315 Easton aluminum arrows. I should have stayed with it but when the Screaming Eagle came out I had to have one. It was so loud. I did everything I did to my H250 to quiet it down but it didn't work. Glad to see they are still around and have solved the noise issues with them.
@DustinApple
@DustinApple Жыл бұрын
Still very dependent on the user.
@ronlevandoski4805
@ronlevandoski4805 3 жыл бұрын
I purchased an Oneida Eagle bow in 1985 when living in Pennsylvania. It was the rage back then and it got a lot of admiration from all my hunting buddies. I hunted whitetail deer and harvested 60+ deer in PA, NY, OH and WV over the years. It's deadly accurate and been hanging in my man cave for several years. I have an archery elk tag for CO and will probably get one for UT. Gotta get a new string and updated arrows and a Whisper Biscuit. The bow is pristine otherwise, looks almost new. I take good care of my gear. The guys in my group here in UT never saw anything like it, it still gets lots of second looks and comments on how futuristic it looks. I'm pretty sure I'll be going on a TX pig hunt this fall too. I have no doubt that if I get an opportunity, there will be meat in the freezer, probably lots of it. You need to buy this bow!
@abrahamf6124
@abrahamf6124 2 жыл бұрын
This is so cool to know the information. I have a H500 from 1989 that still shoots like a champ. It's 32 years old now. That alone means a lot to me. Oneida has some of the best quality bows out there. I also love the feel of a recurve bow and this bow definitely gets me that same feel. I would love to get a newer Oneida bow with some of the new features.
@walterbrightly6923
@walterbrightly6923 3 жыл бұрын
Have had mine since 84, never saw a need to get a new one ,it was nice to here the history.
@philipsommers4245
@philipsommers4245 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Dustin, brought back lots of memories of bow hunting as it has been years since I have been able to enjoy it. I grew up with Gary B son Jim and actually worked at Oneida labs in Syracuse NY sanding those limbs. Still have the bow! Also My Dad and brothers shot in a bow hunting league that Roger L used to run in his shop. Good times First Robinhood! Again thanks for the stroll down memory lane.
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 7 жыл бұрын
Philip Sommers thanks so much. I hope I did the stories justice. I love the lever family and proud to be apart of it.
@robmdq
@robmdq 4 жыл бұрын
I've had an Aeroforce x80, it gave me a silver medal on the national championship here in argentina back in '2003, sadly it got stolen from me and could never replace it yet. Still, the very best bow i've ever seen or shoot.
@stevedriscoll2539
@stevedriscoll2539 Жыл бұрын
Neat story and memories, wish you still had the bow.
@five0merc
@five0merc 7 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Lots of information. I have my dads screaming eagle that I shoot bare bow and bought a black eagle II that has pins. Love the conversations that they bring when at the range.
@joeskipp1643
@joeskipp1643 5 жыл бұрын
I wrote an article on these bows back in 1986 when I wrote for Western and National bowhunter publications. John Islas and Peter Coyne were great people. After the 6 hr plant tour and many photos...they took my buddy and I out to dinner. Before we left they presented us both with H-500 models. Since I shoot a recurve, I turned the bow over to my son...my buddy...still shot his until a few years ago. Very popular bows in Upstate NY, Western NY and picked up momentum here in the Southern part of NY.
@BushCampingTools
@BushCampingTools Жыл бұрын
I remember the Oneida Eagle? from years back, some dude had one in our club and it caught the eye of everyone. I'd almost forgotten about them but see they are still very much in business. Maybe I should have got one as I hate using releases as I only ever shot with my fingers.
@uvcoach42
@uvcoach42 3 жыл бұрын
I regret selling my screaming Eagle 600 .. that thing would spit arrows. I was a lot younger and stronger back then and shot #75 and an overdraw one it 27” arrow it was fast.. I met a sales rep when they were made here in NYS it’s good to see Someone carrying on the name and quality.
@stevedriscoll2539
@stevedriscoll2539 Жыл бұрын
I am only 3/4 thru this, but so far is just fascinating...thanks so much for keeping this information alive and posting this video. I arrived in Iowa in 1991 and got into bow hunting and was soon hooked. I was awed when I saw the Oneida bows on the covers and within the pages of those vintage bowhunting magazines.
@DustinApple
@DustinApple Жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Glad you enjoyed it
@TORREX-A.D.
@TORREX-A.D. 3 жыл бұрын
I like that they have used same cam for 30 years. Not changing every year like Hoyt
@johnny_apple_
@johnny_apple_ 7 жыл бұрын
Hey.... waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait I'm from the syracuse area.... its the best when you fish oneida lake with your oneida bow!
@ronvinson1283
@ronvinson1283 7 жыл бұрын
hey Doug glad I found your site and video I just sent mine leaver action Aero force x80 to be repaired new power cables can you give me some background on that bow thanks and where do I subscribe to your website
@glock907
@glock907 Жыл бұрын
I believe they were first available as early as 1978/79. The first time that I shot one was at the Steven’s Point surplus ( now closed) in Steven’s point Wi, when I was in collage at the UWSP from the fall of 1974- spring 1980. I believe it was in the fall of 1979 during my final fall deer season before my graduation when I had shot it, but it is possible that it was after my May graduation 1980 and prior to entering the army in September of 1980.
@GRockBlues
@GRockBlues 7 жыл бұрын
Im from the area where these came from...i remember when they came out...a bow shop in Webster owned by Ken was where i first learned of them...they were so different and futuristic...it seems they were all black?...i dont remember the earliest ones being camo...i remember how smooth they were...but it seems i remember them being kind of heavy
@TheArmyKnifeNut
@TheArmyKnifeNut 4 жыл бұрын
4:32 "A" goes with "B" and "1" goes with "2." "A" doesn't go with "2." Other than that pet peeve, awesome video. Really interesting and informative about a unique family of bows and their journey.
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, it took me 10 min to figure out what you meant lol. If I can do 45min about a lever bow and that's my only word fumble I did pretty good. 🤣🤣🤣 glad you liked it.
@jameswoodie1351
@jameswoodie1351 5 жыл бұрын
Love theses bows I've had several but ready for another
@sandcreekoutdoors1056
@sandcreekoutdoors1056 3 жыл бұрын
I do realize that this video is 4 years old but i am hoping to get a source for draw stops on my H250. Any help is greatly appreciated!
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 3 жыл бұрын
Lever lovers FB page
@sandaniai
@sandaniai 7 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous bows, I'm saving for one but I'm in the UK so it will need to be an American import .
@coodyoutdoors8766
@coodyoutdoors8766 10 ай бұрын
I remember when I was a little kid in the 80’s my grandma’s neighbor had one with a 2”overdraw shooting Votex broadheads thought it was coolest bow ever
@jimvancise3308
@jimvancise3308 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dustin. I inherited 4 Oneida bows from my Dad when he passed. I've found very few Oneida dealers in Ohio and Michigan. He was buying them between 1998 and 2003 so you've covered that era nicely including the Stealth.
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 7 жыл бұрын
if you have a Extreme send me a message on FB.
@jimvancise3308
@jimvancise3308 7 жыл бұрын
I'm going to message you on Facebook but I see no mention of "Extreme" on these bows.
@muddywaterfishing
@muddywaterfishing 7 жыл бұрын
Any possibility of making a video on how to set up and tune a lever bow? (Sorry if it's in this video, only about a quarter through)
@davidmoore8741
@davidmoore8741 6 жыл бұрын
I have the very first falcon produced, my buddy took me to Oneida to have his bow tuned and they had the first falcon hanging on the wall kinda off to the side, I shot a bunch of other bows and asked what that one was. They said well that's the new model coming out next year, I asked well can I shoot that? They were kinda weary at first cause that was the first finished falcon and they had just started the new production line for the falcon. Claude just happen to walk in and heard my story about how I lost my eye when I was 8 and said well u wanna shoot it? I said well ya I've been asking for 20 mins, I shot everything eles and I'd really like to try it. Do he grabbed it and the guys had me do a few draws and reset it for me, 20 more mins of tinkering and it was setup for me. So I took the first shot in the lil 20 foot indoor range their in shop. After about 2 dozen shots I said well how much for the bow? I was told it's not for sale and it will be on the market next year. I said I will write ya a check right now for this one cause at the time I had grown out of my youth bow a few years earlier but was still using it maxed out. So I think I paid 1800$ for that falcon. And I had them put all stainless hardware in it and a dozen carbon express arrows and they put a whisker biscket on for me. I think we spent 4 hours at the shop that day. I took it home and my first 50 shots I robin hooded my first arrow, so it's up north at my buddies place, placed in a bucks antlers on the wall. About 50$ worth of arrows right there lol so I try not to robin hood arrows anymore cause they are not cheap lol. I love my red dot sight. I've taken deer down at 50 yards with it. I've lost a few deer as well, it happens, that hunting. My dad hated seeing how upset I got when I lost a deer, I'd spend a entire week looking for them, it's heart breaking to me. I hate when it happens. I shot my first buck a 3 point, he just happen to turn right as I realsed and I stuck him in the left butt cheek. Thankfully I shoot schwackers and have luma knocks. Their was just lil drops of blood. I found that deer and my 2 buddies and I chases it a mile into a creek and then jumped on it and drowned it.
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 6 жыл бұрын
That is a amazing story friend. Thanks for sharing.
@chadvanhaitsma2813
@chadvanhaitsma2813 4 жыл бұрын
i just bought one, it's signed by Claude Pollington, I'm pretty excited to use it this year
@xfactoroutdoors165
@xfactoroutdoors165 4 жыл бұрын
What model is it?
@chadvanhaitsma2813
@chadvanhaitsma2813 4 жыл бұрын
@@xfactoroutdoors165 It's a Black Eagle
@xfactoroutdoors165
@xfactoroutdoors165 4 жыл бұрын
@@chadvanhaitsma2813 score. That's a great bow.
@danvanhoose6783
@danvanhoose6783 5 жыл бұрын
I just took my Oneida tomcat and aero force and took the strings and put the old school brush buttons on them.man the string slap really quited down.yep,aero force and tomcat.I hunt with them,deer and turkeys.
@LuisSanchez-lu4cu
@LuisSanchez-lu4cu 2 жыл бұрын
Are the squirrel skis a lesser bow or is it just a preference? I found a few that I woulf like to buy one. Which bow over all do you recommend I find? I like longer bows too.
@LuisSanchez-lu4cu
@LuisSanchez-lu4cu 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone know if this guy is still alive?
@Dirtfloorfab
@Dirtfloorfab 7 жыл бұрын
dustin apple 44 mins in you say that the only difference in gen 1 black eagle are cutouts in the riser. don't mean to correct you but there were many variations of the gen 1 some had a wrap around grip, gen one was often designated as having 2 rest holes. also the front edge of the riser was rounded in gen 2
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 7 жыл бұрын
Dirtfloorfab good amendment, yes you are correct however the geometry, weight, and available options were very similar. for the sake of trying to cover every model and since I don't own a gen2 I tried to be kind of vague. there were a ton of variations within the same models almost every year, especially in the early years.
@Dirtfloorfab
@Dirtfloorfab 7 жыл бұрын
Dustin Apple I'm still watching it but you did a great job so far. I have known Claude on a friendship basis for just a few years but I live by the old factory in Marion Michigan. The anodized black eagle one. I had just like it and brought it in for parts. Cluade's eyes lit up and he told me all about the history and the significance of that bow. Must have talked for 2 hour's. He's such a nice old man and honestly didn't figure he'd ever sell the company but sometimes thing's don't go as we'd like.
@Dirtfloorfab
@Dirtfloorfab 7 жыл бұрын
Dustin Apple I do agree to think what the progression will be next is very exciting. To step away from the k cam technology that we've had for so many years, that's exciting. JP Morris is no doubt more setup to do r and d and develop better lighter and tougher parts. One of the biggest shortcomings for CP was not willing to change with feedback from the market you look at how many people who complained about the limb pockets on the osprey's popping out of socket. JP buys and instantly changed that. I hope there willingness to grow and develop new tech stays. because my life at 26 has alot to look forward to from these underdogs
@Dirtfloorfab
@Dirtfloorfab 7 жыл бұрын
lol I wasn't yet to the plastic limb cap part when I wrote that
@mikekupetsky6879
@mikekupetsky6879 5 жыл бұрын
I am looking to purchase a oneiida black Eagle it was made in 2004 so I think that would make it a black Eagle one if I'm correct. it is 31" draw length right now I need it to be 29 1/2. Are the modules readily available. Or should I steer clear of this bow
@LuisSanchez-lu4cu
@LuisSanchez-lu4cu 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 29 inch draw. Which bow would you recommend I search for from all variants if you could only have one except for the rare one? I want to buy a used one.
@knowledge15king
@knowledge15king 3 жыл бұрын
Dustin fantastic information, I purchased for 25.00 what I believe is a phantom 2 where can I get more info on this bow? Has no string haven't drawn it so it's either going to be awesome or it's art to hang on the wall lol
@enteriowasoutdoors8014
@enteriowasoutdoors8014 7 жыл бұрын
can't wait to see the tech videos on these bows
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 7 жыл бұрын
yea........I have been very busy but have full intentions of doing a full lever tuning video.
@jackeskew3962
@jackeskew3962 7 жыл бұрын
I was wanting your thoughts on the screaming eagle bow. I didn't see it mentioned in the the video.
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 7 жыл бұрын
jack eskew a screaming eagle is a H riser bow it started from 1985 and was the longest running lever produced. they are easily found and should be bought anywhere from $ 100-300 the top end being something totally rebuilt with a custom paint or hydro dip. but even a beat up Screamer will easily fetch 100. bows are 6lbs and 48" tip to tip. and came in a wide variety of cam and outboard lengths. it is very common for someone to try and sell a h250 or a h500 as a screaming eagle. but the best thing to look for is the cams. the better screaming eagles will have a metal cam look closely for metal instead of a plastic cam. the large 3/8" hole in the cam in a dead give away. good luck.
@jackeskew3962
@jackeskew3962 7 жыл бұрын
Tganks for the info..
@benbox7329
@benbox7329 6 жыл бұрын
Dustin Apple I just had a screaming. Given to me. It has no string. Has everything else. How do I determine the sting size
@allanwagner4570
@allanwagner4570 7 жыл бұрын
Hello Can the cam cable on a black eagle be replaced Can you do that ?? I have a line on a black eagle for $50 Just don’t know if it can be fixed
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 7 жыл бұрын
Allan Wagner yes sir can easily be repaired. the worst beat up black eagle is still worth a lot of money, please do a rescue!
@patsplat
@patsplat 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, from Oneida NY.
@jasejjohnson5386
@jasejjohnson5386 3 жыл бұрын
When i got into bowhungting back in like 92,my step grandpa was an ex army ranger who was injured in a parachute accident gone wrong.but he got into onieda when they first came out.he was a tournament shooter,sponsored by onieda.on an interesting note though.my grandpa was at an tourney.well low and behold the father of modern archery was there(if that doesn't ring a bell,u haven't been into archery very long.Yes I mean the archery God himself Fred Bear.having never seen such a strange how,he asked my grandpa if he could shoot it.of course he let him.fred loved it.10-15 years later my grandpa retired from tournaments,and I got both eagles he had left and gave them to me.so I still have the screaming eagle and the 250.i broke into archery with an eagle that a legend shot,and bubba I tore the deer up with it.i love onieda,s and u have to have one to get it.they were light years ahead of the rest from invention,and are again today.thanks.for your channel sir.nice to meet another onieda lover.
@DannyHenson
@DannyHenson Жыл бұрын
Just watched your great history of Oneda... but you did not include the Oneida Hawk. This was a youth bow or for archers with small frames (like me). But... still a good history.
@DustinApple
@DustinApple Жыл бұрын
its in there. a "hawk" is the same bow as a Talon & Osprey. the only difference is the Hawk had SuperShort(SS) outboards. & the Osprey had stainless hardware. after JP bought Oneida in 2016 the sizes were changed in 2017. If you buy a new Osprey today in a "short" it is actually the same parameters as the "Hawk" of 2005. 25.5-27.5" draw
@vinpribek3903
@vinpribek3903 4 жыл бұрын
Just found this video online. I own an Oneida Phantom and hunt deer with it each fall. Can you tell me anything about it? I can't find any info on the Phantom model. Thanks.
@LocoLynx
@LocoLynx 5 жыл бұрын
Would you suggest buying a screaming eagle, strike eagle, or x80 aeroforce?
@danvanhoose6783
@danvanhoose6783 6 жыл бұрын
I got one coming,is there a contact for you.I'll be setting it up for hunting.I got a soft spot for old compounds.
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 6 жыл бұрын
yeah man im all over on Facebook and Instagram. I suggest you join the "Lever Lovers" FB page and watch my other video "The Quietest Lever Bow" tons of great information.
@glock907
@glock907 Жыл бұрын
What have they done in the last 6 years, what do they weigh and how fast are they today?
@DustinApple
@DustinApple Жыл бұрын
No changes have been made to Oneida bows that increase performance since 1999. They still use the same cam system that was released 1992. ....better end caps, better timing wheels, better draw stop system. A few different riser designs but the majority of "new options" from Oneida since 2017 have all been colors.
@shellmaker10
@shellmaker10 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, great info. I am knew to all of this. I am looking for a Black Eagle/2 and I have a finger draw length of 28". Would it be better to get a SHORT with the short cams and medium outboards or a MEDIUM L.F. with the medium cams and L.F. outboards. Looking at the charts it looks like they have similar draw length options with the MEDIUM L.F. having lower % let-off options. I plan to shoot fingers, and mainly target, and hunting. Is looking at the above mentioned options the only thing to consider here or is there something else I need to be thinking about. Thanks for any info you can give me.
@wangnonan
@wangnonan 6 жыл бұрын
I am about to buy a Oneida Tomcat, but there are a couple question concerning me. How about Oneida bow life?(The one I am buying is more 20 years old.) what about accuracy? I saw some people on forum talking about timing issue. Thanks
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 6 жыл бұрын
they are the toughest bows made. I have a few that are pushing 40yrs old. timing is very easy to adjust. the best H-riser bows were the Tomcat 2,3,x80 with the K cam. they all bring about $250 in good condition.
@philipsmith518
@philipsmith518 5 жыл бұрын
Hi can you tell me how do you adjust the draw length on these bows.I have a 26" draw but would really like one of these lever bows. i am in the UK so would import as the only agent over here is asking a fortune for them.Is the draw length inch specific as i have seen it advertised as 26.5-28"Thanks for your time ,and i really enjoyed your video
@TORREX-A.D.
@TORREX-A.D. 3 жыл бұрын
You have to get the right size bow. It's easy then to change draw length with rubber draw stops. It's best to be on the higher end of the bow size if you want more let off. However , less letoff seems more accurate.
@wifi116
@wifi116 7 жыл бұрын
Are these straight hunting bows or can they be use for target archery?
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 7 жыл бұрын
can and have been used for target and for hunting for almost 40yrs. see my latest video I take a nice Doe with a BE Pro.
@kennethsmith1744
@kennethsmith1744 4 жыл бұрын
I just got a aero force second hand i need to shorten draw length what all do I need to do. Its way to long a draw for my anchor. Do i just get modules? Or do I need cams also there is a splinter in the top power limb sombody tried to epoxy it doesn't go very deep. I just want to get it shooting
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 4 жыл бұрын
Lever lovers FB page
@GregorsOutdoors
@GregorsOutdoors 4 жыл бұрын
Very well done! What's your opinion of the Oneida Eagle Anodized Lite Force Magnum for deer and pig hunting? I've watched most of your videos especially the "what to look for in a used Oneida bow" really appreciate the input. Thanks in advance!
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 4 жыл бұрын
a lite force is a great bow and anodized one is sorta rare. big cool factor man. you'll love it!
@robertlunnar8260
@robertlunnar8260 Жыл бұрын
I have a H500 can i Change out the cam and wills.
@VBGRIM
@VBGRIM 7 жыл бұрын
I bought a Black Eagle II off Ebay a few years ago - $800. I had the next losing bidder offer me $900 the next day. Needless to say, I didn't sell it!
@randlyons7278
@randlyons7278 5 жыл бұрын
Dustin , I am showing an interest in the lever bow for multiple reasons that is a protracted discussion. I am getting discouraged with the no response I'm getting to the following question. Hopeing you could enlighten me here. Some of the Oneida models are referred to as fishing bows. I'm just curious. Why fishing ? Is this a commercial issue to encourage hunter types to purchase the higher cost models ? Is there something impractical about the fishing models ? I'm a poor boy and will not any time soon afford an expensive bow. Also , if one conciders the older models more than adequate , are parts still available ? I suspect many others that are investigating this time honered desin would like a straight answer to these. Thanks in advance.
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if the question is getting lost in translation or you're just asking it oddly. Fishing is torture on equipment. It takes a well built bow to stay together bowfishing. The number one tournament bowfishing bow is the Oneida Osprey. Its light weight, strong and completely tunable. I have deer hunted with a Osprey but it is a low offset riser so some special details have to be taken into consideration. I'm not sure what you're wanting to do with a lever bow but only your level of commitment will stop you from achieving your goals, not the bow. As far as older bow parts most bows that are older than 1999 will be hard to find parts for. Join the "Lever Lovers" Facebook page and start learning more.
@allanwagner4570
@allanwagner4570 7 жыл бұрын
Can the cam cable be replaced on a 90s black eagle ?? Is that something that you could do?
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 7 жыл бұрын
Allan Wagner yes sir. Look at my video of a "Osprey takedown video" and you can see how. I should have the rebuild video in a few weeks. You can order replacement cables through American Eagle bows, G-string bowstrings, or Bowfishing Extreme.
@jsado13
@jsado13 5 жыл бұрын
Inherited a black eagle from my father in-law. The outboard limbs have a V shaped groove in them. Does that mean it's ESC?
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 5 жыл бұрын
yes sir it does. great bow. ESC limbs would have been offered towards the end of the black eagles offered. so probably 2004-2008
@BindisHoney
@BindisHoney 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man. I learned a lot about oneida and my osprey. I've had a discovery and 2 ospreys now. Can you do a video on how to repaint an osprey? I was wanting to repaint mine with duracoat and I'm not sure how to go about doing it all.
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 7 жыл бұрын
there are a number of places that will do it for you for a very reasonable price. im going to take apart and have a entire bow cerakoted in the next video. if doing it yourself watch some videos on "swirl painting" i find it very interesting and have seen some very cool bows painted this way.
@BindisHoney
@BindisHoney 7 жыл бұрын
Dustin Apple so you prefer cerakote over duracoat? I was going to try duracoat because of their cool patterns
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 7 жыл бұрын
call John Greenwell at G-string bowstrings. he does some exceptional cerakoting in any color you can dream and is doing it in patterns as well. its amazing.
@BindisHoney
@BindisHoney 7 жыл бұрын
Dustin Apple I got his number. I'll give him a shout. I didn't know he did that. Thanks again.
@thebeardedarcher1322
@thebeardedarcher1322 6 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting one of these since I discovered Oneida about a year ago. Unfortunately I cannot afford one yet :(
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 6 жыл бұрын
Matthew B. Most of us start with a old one. Then jump into a new. Usually can find a old H riser for $100-150
@allanlacosse6630
@allanlacosse6630 4 жыл бұрын
I just picked up my first Oneida Aero Force X80 with all the toys for $350 cdn
@IWinY0UL0se
@IWinY0UL0se 7 жыл бұрын
I have an oneida still tryna figure out which one I got I haven't been to an archery shop yet.
@yewwtooob
@yewwtooob 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know how fast the 80 pound aero force shoots? Great video
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 3 жыл бұрын
nope. would greatly depend on arrow weight. probably could get it upwards of 310
@davidcalkins1114
@davidcalkins1114 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the education. solid video. Do you know anybody who works on a phantom?
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 6 жыл бұрын
David Calkins few names for you to search. Joe Ciampa with American Eagle bows or Dwayne Skippy Manska either can help you. Or if you wish to get strings and cables G-string bowstrings can make just about anything you need.
@williamcook9304
@williamcook9304 3 жыл бұрын
I just was given a lite mag....first time bow guy. Has some pollington workup on it.
@gigilaco
@gigilaco 5 жыл бұрын
My friend, I have a question for you. I’m currently bidding on a Strike Eagle on eBay. It looks in good condition but do you think it’s a good bow? Or would you prefer a black eagle or aero force?
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 5 жыл бұрын
don't spend over 200 for a Strike. a Aero will bring 250 but a solid Black Eagle will bring 5-650. that being said they are all K-cam bows and all perform well. you get what you pay for
@gigilaco
@gigilaco 5 жыл бұрын
Dustin Apple Thank you so much!
@sdrowley2222
@sdrowley2222 6 жыл бұрын
Are the modules interchangeable between the different models ?, if not where do you get modules for the phantom, or the areo force 80
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 6 жыл бұрын
shawn rowley yes most are interchangeable. The phantom could have either a "I" or the "K" cam. If it has a "i" cam the modules that will work are much harder to find.
@wandyramon9214
@wandyramon9214 6 жыл бұрын
Olá moro no Brasil sou praticante tiro com arco , gostaria de saber se vc poderia me vender um arco Oneida ?
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 6 жыл бұрын
my Portuguese is a little rusty...… but EBAY or buying directly from Oneida eagle bows will be best.
@tradarcher8714
@tradarcher8714 3 жыл бұрын
Do you still use the Oneida bows?
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah every week.
@claytongreen2744
@claytongreen2744 5 жыл бұрын
Great Video!!! Hey i need help on two Tomcats i have .Who has parts or does service on these? Any Numbers i can call?
@lanejohnson2771
@lanejohnson2771 5 жыл бұрын
Hello how can I contact you I need some help and information on my bow. My Grandfather says it’s a strike eagle but another place says it’s a aero force but I’m not sure.
@yewwtooob
@yewwtooob 3 жыл бұрын
Mine says Aero force X 80 on the limbs
@rikacoetzer8135
@rikacoetzer8135 4 жыл бұрын
I really would give my left baal to own a Onaida bow Greatings South Africa
@xiborgh
@xiborgh 7 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on aero force x-80?
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 7 жыл бұрын
what do you want to know? probably one of the most popular bows out there for hunting and bowfishing. they are big and heavy but very forgiving and fun to shoot. they all have a the K cam witch makes them very tunable for whatever situation your getting into.
@dougking1878
@dougking1878 7 жыл бұрын
the Oneida was a popular bow in the 80s. as we got into the 90s popularity really dropped. I bought a Stealth which was introduced when Loomis took over the company. it proved to be junk. today you virtually never see an Oneida. no dealers carry them
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 7 жыл бұрын
Not sure of your location Doug but Oneida has changed hands once again and the new owner John Paul Morris of Bass Pro Shops has been putting a lot into the company since June of 2015. This years new release of the "Phoenix" is the best bow ever produced. All the dealers are held to a higher standard now with a minimum number of bows that must be sold to continue to be a dealer in the future. There are many dealers that sell Oneidas online. For most of us this is a great thing because parts can be bought online as well. If you "never see an Oneida" your just not living right brother. The brand is still shipped all over the world every day.
@dougking1878
@dougking1878 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Dustin..I see that. I was referring to WA state...but they dropped off everywhere. I see they've been reintroduced and while I don't doubt these versions are the best Oneida ever..it's a tough market especially if these models are priced comparable to Hoyt PSE Mathews and Bowtech. My personal Oneida experience was very poor. I bought what I later learned the troubled Stealth model. I had 8 returns of it one year..the next year something else failed so I sent it to a fellow who really knew Oneida. Well he told me my bow would have to be rebuilt. I said enough is enough ..he took it in on trade towards something else and I've never bought an Oneida again. There are very few dealers for this bow, and in talking to dealers the ones I know won't carry the line. I think it's gonna be hard for the new owners to get this company back on track
@danvanhoose6783
@danvanhoose6783 5 жыл бұрын
Trying to locate a quiver for my tomcat.and advice.
@adamsanislo5943
@adamsanislo5943 8 ай бұрын
I have the Strike Eagle and a Phoenix
@ГеннадийРазинкин
@ГеннадийРазинкин 5 ай бұрын
Неужели так тяжело сопроводить свой ролик субтитрами, чтобы их можно было перевести?!...
@bearhug72
@bearhug72 3 жыл бұрын
Holy hell…this video could have been 30-45 minutes
@scottdittel5121
@scottdittel5121 6 жыл бұрын
Is it a good big game bow
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 6 жыл бұрын
Scott Dittel yes. Oneida bows throw a heavy arrow better than most. Build a arrow above 600gr and it will be a great big game weapon.
@scottdittel5121
@scottdittel5121 6 жыл бұрын
Dustin Apple thanks for the info
@wesleykanawyersr.8822
@wesleykanawyersr.8822 Жыл бұрын
The first ones was The H-250 not the H-500, I have one of the first ones
@wesleykanawyersr.8822
@wesleykanawyersr.8822 Жыл бұрын
Oops
@danvanhoose6783
@danvanhoose6783 5 жыл бұрын
New comment,I just can't get a quiet bow.tomcat and an aero force.tried everything.sounfs like a couple of 2x4 smacking together on releases.fast but noisy.
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 5 жыл бұрын
Watch my other video about "the quietest lever bow" arrow building is key.
@iceblueeyes9455
@iceblueeyes9455 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion. First they shoot. Cool look. Now the truth. There loud. There unpredictable. There heavy. Cable system has had flows since day one. If you buy one understand the older ones sold in short draw. Medium draw. And long draw. They are hard to keep timed. Great looking bow design. But kinda be prepaired and going to a bow shop that knows this bow. To change string and check cams. Ted nugent can afford to have a extra one for back up.
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 3 жыл бұрын
You obviously have not owned one or at least very long. They require effort, no bow shop understands them because a bow shop isn't required. All work done to the bows only require 3 Allen wrenchs. A knowledgeable person can completely disassemble & reassemble & tune in under 15min. There are some steps that help them be quiet. 10gr per pound on a arrow build is a great place to start. No bow works well without effort of knowledge. If you saw mediocre results it's because you gave a mediocre effort. 🤷
@marioratto1392
@marioratto1392 4 жыл бұрын
So happy to find this guy i had a ted nugent wackmaster bow that was stolen from me 28 years ago. It was just returned to me by the wife of the sob that stole it
@allanwagner4570
@allanwagner4570 7 жыл бұрын
Ok Based on your reply I will buy this bow I send email on your site also I will be in touch soon
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 7 жыл бұрын
Allan Wagner Whiteriverrambo@hotmail.com if you need anything or can find me on FB.
@joshohoro
@joshohoro Жыл бұрын
wish jp would round the handles of the new ospreys. wont buy anything newer than a 2016
@DustinApple
@DustinApple Жыл бұрын
They did away with the fat grip Osprey last winter. All new Osprey are now back to the original profile.
@joshohoro
@joshohoro Жыл бұрын
@@DustinApple thank god they felt so bulky i haven’t bought one since 2016 i’ve been avoiding them
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