The History of the Detroit Red Wings, 2022 Edition

The Wings started out as the Cougars in 1026. They have won the Cup 11 times in their history.
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[@dem1s3]

Red Wings first ever 50-goal scorer was none other than current color commentary guy Mickey Redmond on March 27th 1973 in an 8-1 win against the Leafs.

[@michaelkrutz5737]

Both him and Dionne did it that year but your right he was technically first.

[@thewaterwarrior9817]

☺️😊

[@daltonking6956]

What a Legend

[@JaredlS10]

Ginger Ales all around.

[@victorsukhov8740]

@@michaelkrutz5737 Dionne never scored 50 goals while playing for the Red Wings

[@futuresequence.]

Fun fact. Yzermans 88-89 season point total is the highest ever by someone not named Gretzky or Lemieux.

[@spencerleard7763]

Imagine scoring 155 points and coming in third for the Art Ross.

[@SverigeiSverige]

He won Ted Lindsay (Lester) that year, despite Lemieux had 199 P and Gretzky 168 P.

[@SverigeiSverige]

@@spencerleard7763 Bernie Nicholls had 150 point and not even top 3.

[@scottinnh88]

I wish the new nhl games 22-23 would use older players and whole team more

[@jimmykarlsson2567]

@@SverigeiSverige Hur mycket hade Phil Esposito som bäst under sina Boston år

[@dolomitearterius5036]

Steve Yzerman is the Brain, Mickey Redmond is the Soul, Dylan Larkin is the Heart and Seider/Raymond are the new blood. LGRW!

[@alexanderjakel8001]

Raise #20 to the rafters! Teams have raised lesser guys for doing even less.

[@unoriginalandrew]

Redmond is the greatest voice in hockey history for me.

[@RogueStatusQVX]

Don't forget Ken Daniel's!

[@dawnsempire8510]

tidbits i want to add as a fan: - the arena they played in for one year before Olympia was Border Cities Arena in Windsor. - they hold the record for biggest margin of victory in a game with a 15-0 win against the New York Rangers in WWII era. (i forget the exact date.) - the Detroit Red Wings are the only team to win the Stanley Cup in Game 7 overtime, and they did it twice: 1950 (Pete Babando) and 1955 (Tony Leswick). ETA: i can't miss this: Detroit lost to Toronto in 1942 in a reverse sweep, the only one to occur in the Stanley Cup Final. in 1945, Detroit had a chance for revenge, losing the first three, winning the next three and having Game 7 at the Olympia. they fell short of reverse-sweeping the team that reverse-swept them three years earlier.

[@McSomething15]

The Wings beat the Rangers 15-0 on Jan 23rd 1944, at Olympia Stadium.

[@willygoat4113]

Didn’t even start watching yet, instantly hitting the like button.

[@dem1s3]

Yup

[@PrivatelyHanging]

Me too

[@McSomething15]

Same

[@osgood30fan]

Speaking of Bure and Detroit. There is a story that Detroit tried to draft him before Vancouver did but the NHL told them no he wasn't eligible, he was too young. But Vancouver was able to prove his age somehow and the NHL allowed them to draft him. Can you imagine Bure on those Wings teams, and going even further imagine Gretzky doesn't talk to his dad first and the trade to Detroit goes through instead of him going to LA and you have him and Yzerman as your 1 2 punch down the middle flanked by Fedorov and Bure. That's insane to think about.

[@PrivatelyHanging]

I'm almost there, keep going

[@badm0t0rf1ng3r]

Yeah the only issue is that you have to believe that Yzerman would have been involved in a potential Gretzky trade. Other than that... shoot I'm in.

[@badm0t0rf1ng3r]

I'm trying to think of a Gretzky trade to Detroit without Yzerman... Klima, Shawn burr, Jeff Sharples and Joe Murphy plus cash and picks.

[@osgood30fan]

The only reason I don't think Yzerman would be part of it is because they mainly traded Gretzky because they couldn't afford him and while Yzerman would not cost as much as Gretzky he sure wouldn't be much cheaper either.

[@miccrhaafetl5101]

Would be interesting for one or two games if they used the Cougars or Falcons name. James Norris also drew inspiration from the Montreal “Winged Wheelers” club he played with. They were called the Dead Wings not dead things 11 Stanley Cups not 9

[@alecdziwanowski4153]

need credit for those other 2 cups!

[@victorsukhov8740]

Unfortunately they WERE called Dead Things in 1980s as well. Not only Dead Wings

[@Lcngopher]

The wings actually played their first year in windsor at border cities arena now known as windsor arena. Didnt look like shannon had that on there under the arenas section

[@bdonaghu]

Another tidbit about Detroit's history is they switched to the Eastern Conference at the beginning of the 2013-14 season.

[@robert48044]

I miss being in the West

[@abbatoirnoises]

@@robert48044 I miss everything but the start times

[@csolivais1979]

@@robert48044 I'm a Hawks fan, but I lived in Michigan for 20 odd some years, you are the first Wings fan say that they miss being in the west

[@robert48044]

@@csolivais1979 I work afternoons so I didn't mind the late starts

[@dustyb58]

he mentioned that around 8:32

[@sopowerabboy]

I just realized that Marcel Dionne was drafted by Detroit Red Wings.

[@SverigeiSverige]

He set a record for most shorthanded goals in a season with 10 in 75. That season he also set new record for Detroit , 74 assists and 121 points. Then he was gone...

[@davids9520]

He had a good start with the Wings. But eventually the team and the player had a falling out.

[@matthewdaley746]

Those Canadiens won the Cup, and, drafted Guy Lafleur, they'd have continued their Dynasty, with, or, without, him, glad things got changed.

[@mjk06]

Still blows my mind Sawchuk had 103 shut outs in that era. Still think he doesn't get talked about enough. Unbelievable stats for that time.

[@THExDETROITxLIONS]

What’s better than a new THG video? A new THG video about the Wings 🤩

[@theawayfan6052]

Greatest Hockey Team around, tremendous history, bright future, and the best looking jerseys. Shannon looks best in a Wings jersey! (Side note, I have the photo Shannon used for the thumbnail) LGRW🐙🏒🤘

[@tiagomaia1365]

I couldn't agree more

[@McSomething15]

Hoping to see playoff hockey back in Detorit soon.

[@mattcraig163]

LGRW!!!!!! Its an exciting time to be a wings fan. Thanks for the video Shannon.

[@ronaldgarner1992]

Sad that Zetterberg didn't score 1000 points for his career and Delvecchio didn't score 500 goals for his career

[@matthewdaley746]

Only reason he wasn't, already, in the HOF, just awful.

[@matthewdaley746]

@RT-106 Music He, likely, gets in next year, as it's totally weak.

[@badm0t0rf1ng3r]

@@matthewdaley746 I'm upset that Yzerman never got to 700. Injuries and lockouts basically ended that.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@badm0t0rf1ng3r Got three Rings, anyway.

[@21localh]

Missed a couple Stanley cups their. They have 11 not 9. Missed 1952 and 54

[@Lcngopher]

1952, the birth of the octopi on the ice

[@TheBoyer19]

I hope we see them win another cup sooner rather than later

[@ML.80]

A Scotty Bowman video would be interesting! I have been a Wings fan for 30years, more now than ever actually. And I want to learn more about this legendary coach. Thank you!

[@matthewdaley746]

1993-1996, unbelievably, totally, miserable.

[@The_Frozen_1]

One extra tidbit, there are two other numbers that are out of circulation for the Red Wings. These numbers are not officially retired, but they are not available for selection for Red Wings, so they are retired but not hung from the rafters. These numbers are: 6 - Larry Aurie, a key player for the Red Wings first Stanley Cup and the favorite player of the ownership of that time. This number used to be retire prior to the modern hockey era. 16 - Vladimir Konstantinov, Key defenseman for the 1997 Stanley Cup whose career was ended by a life altering injury shortly after winning it.

[@jimjohnson9808]

You can add to the coaches list for the Wings. Derek Lalonde is Detroit's 28th coach, official today.

[@newsuicide35]

How you gonna forget 52 and 54 on the cup wins. 11 cups, third over all in cup history.

[@justinhenderson4901]

Life long redwings fan .LFGRW!👊🏻🤘🏻🙌🏻

[@pascalbelleville3546]

I remember the Detroit Cougars from my youth ... Oh wait, I'm thinking of different cougars . Bring back the Detroit Cougars to initiate the younger fans !

[@JaredlS10]

Giggity

[@CMUBrent]

The Wings also won the Cup in 1952 and 1954. In Ken Dryden's book "Scotty", Scotty Bowman rated the 1951-52 Red Wings as one of the greatest teams in NHL history, just behind the 1976-77 Canadiens. Great video though, and I need to get one of those Gordie Howe jerseys. 👍

[@CertifiedClapaholic]

Osgood has 2 cups as a starter. He DEFINITELY deserves to be in the HOF. There's absolutely no rational argument against it. He's also the only goalie NHL history with over 400 wins and under 250 losses. Case closed. Put the man in the HOF.

[@cyborgroxx]

Detroit Red Wings are my favorite. And Gordie Howe is top 2. Love him. He was before my time, but he rocks! Love Steve Yzerman too. Same with Sergei Fedorov. And my favorite player from the 80's teams (besides Stevie) was Petr Klima. BTW, you look great in Detroit gear. Everyone looks great in the winged wheel. God's team, baby! And you forgot to mention 1952 and 1954 when listing off their Cup wins. You have the number of them correct, they indeed won 11. You just went from 1950 to 1955 while not mentioning 1952 and 1954.

[@abrahamlincoln9758]

I almost don't think he looks like THG in it, but he does look awesome.

[@PrivatelyHanging]

Really wished Mike Illitch could have convinced William Clay Ford to sell the Lions to him.

[@matthewdaley746]

Tigers fans would disagree.

[@PrivatelyHanging]

@@matthewdaley746 I thought about that before I left my comment. He bought the team in '92. Since then the Lions still have less accolades. One World Series appearance is more than WCF ever had done for the Lions. He didn't how to hire intelligent football people, it was either his ego or the charlatans around him. Martha looks different, we sure hope she is. The Tigers always get close and let us down, but I don't see ownership on the field.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@PrivatelyHanging They actually had two, (2006, 2012), they would have gone in 2013, but, that moron Jim Leyland just didn't want to get booed by Red Sox fans for intentionally walking David Ortiz, with, the bases loaded, you know the rest.

[@PrivatelyHanging]

@@matthewdaley746 I'm not sure what pisses me off more, Game 7 in Detroit, Tigers losing 2 WS, or the no-call pass interference. DetroitvsEverybody

[@matthewdaley746]

@@PrivatelyHanging If, not, for Jim Leyland putting his ego over the team's welfare, they win the ALCS in Five Games, and, possibly, win the World Series, moronic.

[@IceNinja2007]

The fact that Shanahan was only on the team for 10 years, and is in the top scoring list, shows you how dominant he was in his 30's.

[@swedreamhack5308]

Big fan of the franchise. Yzerman is in many ways Det to me, it's been interesting to follow him as a gm and I'm determined he will build Det to a contender within the next 5-6 years. There's a lot to say and discuss about Det, for me the best times was the 90's, with the struggles come play-offs, the battles vs Avs and the Cup run in 02.

[@hockeyfanatic5256]

Awards History : Art Ross: Ted Lindsay (1950) + Gordie Howe (1951/52/53/54/57/63) Bill Masterton: Brad Park (1984) + Steve Yzerman (2003) Calder: Jim McFadden (1948) + Terry Sawchuk (1951) + Glenn Hall (1956) + Roger Crozier (1965) + Moritz Seider (2022) Conn Smythe: Roger Crozier (66') + Mike Vernon (97') + Steve Yzerman (98') + Nicklas Lidstrom (2002) + Henrik Zetterberg (2008) Frank J. Selke: Sergei Fedorov (1994/1996) + Steve Yzerman (2000) + Kris Draper (2004) + Pavel Datsyuk (2008/2009/2010) Hart Memorial: Ebbie Goodfellow (1940) + Sid Abel (1949) + Gordie Howe (1952/53/57/58/60/63) + Sergei Fedorov (1994) Jack Adams: Bobby Kromm (1978) + Jacques Demers (1987/1988) + Scotty Bowman (1996) James Norris: Red Kelly (1954) + Paul Coffey (1995) + Nicklas Lidstrom (2001/02/03/06/07/08/11) King Clancy Memorial: Brendan Shanahan (2003) + Henrik Zetterberg (2015) Lady Bing: Marty Barry (37') + Bill Quackenbush (49') + Red Kelly (51'/53/54) + Alex Delvecchio (59'/66/69) + Marcel Dionne (75') + Pavel Datsyuk (2006/07/08/09) Lester B. Pearson/Ted Lindsay: Steve Yzerman (1989) + Sergei Fedorov (1994) Maurice "Rocket" Richard: None Vezina: Normie Smith (1937) + Johnny Mowers (1943) + Terry Sawchuk (1952/1953/1955) William M. Jennings: Mike Vernon and Chris Osgood (1996) + Dominik Hasek and Chris Osgood (2008)

[@johanjotun1647]

If somone yelled Bergeron, whilst we were discussing the Grateness of the MagicMan, I'm taking a penelty!

[@flyingtiger1603]

With the Red Wings I’m surprised there aren’t more players numbers that are retired. Fedorov,Datsyuk and Zetterberg especially.

[@vickiem.6096]

Thank you so much Shannon!

[@matthewguess74]

Been waiting so long for this Shannon :)

[@jasontye3307]

This is awesome, Shannon. Thank you

[@gustavonicola]

Nice video, Shannon! Cheers from Brazil!

[@exeter1985]

It's been 2 days now and Bear the Cat still can't get a Cat Nap.... "He's still talking hockey! On and on and on and on.......

[@bigjohn08865]

She doesn't seem all that bothered

[@exeter1985]

@@bigjohn08865 She's ignoring him or trying to anyway.

[@austinkowalski5512]

Thanks for making Red Wings content!

[@BSAnime]

You may want to update the description: "The Wings started out as the Cougars in 1026". Pretty sure the Wings aren't that old haha.

[@DJGuRu0071]

They had a rough time during the Middle ages

[@justinfever9787]

Crazy how much of a beast Yzerman was, Yet never won a heart Trophy.

[@hockeytown2597]

2002 Red Wings best team in NHL history. 10 Hall of Famers (11 including Bowman) we’ll never come close to seeing that ever again.

[@scowlistic]

Thank you!

[@lordmegatron65]

One of the greatest franchises in NHL history! I grew up during the dominant early 2000's Red Wings era! 😊👍

[@klompsauce]

LGRW 🐙🐙🐙

[@kevinbudzinski9576]

Howe was the greatest NHLer to come from Saskatoon!

[@CertifiedClapaholic]

If you were going to put together an all-time line-up, at least 3 Red Wings would be on it. Lidstrom, Howe, and Hasek.

[@menacewithaknife4045]

I'm pretty sure they were the first team to play a outdoors game, in the 50's they played a game at a prison outside. Only a exhibition game against the prisoners.

[@willygoat4113]

I wonder who our next coach will be.

[@andrewptob]

Do you have a preference?

[@klompsauce]

LaLonde is my guess, I’d like it to be Gronberg

[@saltywingsandavsfan]

I want Savard

[@lordruperteverton4963]

Fedorov, and they'll retire his number at the home opener. Bold ass prediction.

[@Nem1606]

Jeff Halpern I hope

[@jeuno2]

Tomas Homlstrom was drafted in 1994. Probably just misspoke but for those who maybe didn't catch that part.

[@JaredlS10]

Shannon corrected himself a minute or so later.

[@jonasgorea3823]

Should be in good hands under stevei’s direction. Wonder with all of that money how much of a factor they will be this off-season

[@toriamansfield2999]

And #16 is unofficially retired out of respect for Vladimir Konstantinov.

[@sf9ersfan33]

That 2013 team was the last actually good team Detroit had. They didn't just lose in 7 to the Cup winning Hawks, they had a 3-1 series lead. The rebuild probably should have started after they got beatdown in 2014's first round. Several more years of mortgaging the future made this rebuild as painful as it has been.

[@badm0t0rf1ng3r]

This is what I've always maintained. They were legit cup contenders until 2014 and when it was obvious it was over they should have rebuilt.

[@timwhite8685]

Love this 👍

[@ccr35582]

When you said, “their season records, Yzerman.” I expected that to just be the end of the sentence.

[@jamesharns672]

S/O to the greatest American Organization in NHL History

[@victorsukhov8740]

Hey Shannon! Thanks for the video and for all the work you do. Just wanted to tell that the logo on your jersey is not the original one from 1932. The one you wear was used from late 1940s and like until late 1970s. The closest you can find to the original 1932 logo is the one they used on the 2013 Winter Classic jerseys.

[@unoriginalandrew]

That is a big boy board! Holy crap haha! As a kid, I was really spoiled when it came to early success of my hockey team. A couple cups in my early years so it is difficult seeing them this low in the pecking order but I can't complain. We had a good time haha!

[@hengsterdude]

Our time will come again thats for sure! Let‘s go Red Wings!!!

[@dustyb58]

Those playoff matchups! 2002 - won cup. 2003 - lost to anaheim (west champs). 2004 - lost to calgary (west champs). 2006 - lost to edmonton (west champs). 2007 - lost to anaheim (cup champs). 2008 - won cup. 2009 - lost to pittsburgh (cup champs). the road to the cup literally went through Detroit for nearly a decade.

[@kille5454]

Shannon the goat

[@gocanuckurself1]

That old fashioned winged-wheel is awesome!

[@danb.9891]

Team actually played parts of first seasons across the river in Windsor...😲

[@thewaterwarrior9817]

Thanks Shannon! LGRW

[@andrewjmschroeder]

The Red Wings in the 50s are one of the more forgotten dynasties. They also won in 1952 and 1954, which Shannon forgot to write down.

[@RayLahey]

Man, Datsyuk or Bergeron that's a tuff one for sure. I think Bergeron has the defensive side and Datsyuk has the offense side, or not damn this is a hard one.

[@ExasBits]

With a history like this, it’s easy as a fan to shrug off the last half decade of Red Wings hockey as just part of the process.

[@davids9520]

All those bad 1960's draft choices, explains why the 1970's was the era known by Red Wings fans as the Dead Wings era! There were a lot of head coaches being hired and fired during the 1970's. 26 head coaches all time and about half of those were in the 1970's. Mike Ilitch buying the team was a really big turning point. I can remember as a kid, they used to give away new auto's to get people to attend Red Wings games!

[@davids9520]

The Red Wings ran into the machine that was Gretzky and the Edmonton Oilers. That was like running into a brick wall! I never understood why some one thought it a good idea to have the Eastern time zone Red Wings, in the Western Conference? There were seasons when we played back to back playoff series with California teams. I don't think they'd do that to a Boston or a New York team!

[@silentcapture1994]

Sweet! A Red Wings video! And here I thought Shannon hated the Wings!

[@jimmykarlsson2567]

The best team the last 25 years. 1997-2010 where also the golden years for Swedish hockey

[@tiagomaia1365]

Great players, great records, great jerseys, great history and an overall great franchise.

[@travhurst4167]

Go Stevie!! Go Wings!!!

[@jonathangarmuth8975]

You don't have to twist my arm

[@don178]

1989 greatest draft class in NHL history? (Not just for Red Wings, a bunch of teams got great players from behind the Iron Curtain.)

[@joshthompson8590]

Anyone know where to get that hat? I got one very similar but without the white stitching.

[@saltywingsandavsfan]

I honestly thought we could’ve beaten Tampa in 2015

[@klompsauce]

That Kronwall suspension was BULLSHIT

[@trentthurow5696]

If glendening didn’t get hurt they would’ve. Soon as he got hurt Tyler Johnson killed them.

[@saltywingsandavsfan]

@@trentthurow5696 ye and I think Kronwal was suspended

[@masonwright7700]

Chicago won

[@masonwright7700]

@@klompsauce Chicago won

[@kediddy]

They played across the border at Windsor Arena for one year until the Olympia was built.

[@plink7803]

Beautiful thumbnail

[@IceHong10]

love my Wings 😃

[@richstiltner2246]

So we didnt score our first goal till 1954... When we were in the midst of our production line 4 year run?

[@yostr1]

Still waiting for that Career of Bob Probert video

[@Brainspoil]

You can tell Shannon is a man of culture, referencing Doctor Who.

[@larryn1929]

Detroit and Chicago not being in the same division is a crime.

[@flanky1210]

Im biased, but I'd take Datsyuk over Bergeron any day.

[@patch8376]

1924-25 was Detroit's first Stanley Cup in my book.

[@robert48044]

LGRW

[@johnsohn653]

I'll be pleased if it's 20 years between cups. Not pleased that it's also 20 years since I graduated High School

[@leevanderwaskewitch7858]

Can’t tell if the hockey guy recorded this 3 in the morning or smoked some really good herb

[@teresaozog3632]

I really want detroit red wings to pass toronto maple leafs on the stanley cups list

[@TylerMorganShow]

Only 3 arenas, thats amazing

[@blueshirtshockey93]

Uncle Pete!

[@sawchucksaves1867]

Pretty complete and thorough synopsis of the Red Wing franchise history. A couple of comments --Sawchuck was WAY better than Ozzie. In the words of Ted Lindsay, "When Terry was on his game, you couldn't put a pea past him' --There is no #6 hanging from the rafters. James Norris retired it as it was worn by Larry Aurie, a tremendous player in the 1930s. For some reason unknown, Illitch family will not honor his retired number by raising it to the rafters. --Re: busted draft picks: I saw the goalie Thomas McCollum in what must have been his only game in the NHL vs St Louis Blues. He gave up 10 goals and didn't play for the Wings again. --Some players given away in stupid trades by Wing mgt to other teams: Ted Lindsay to Chicago, Glenn Hall to Chicago, Johnny Bucyk to Boston, Terry Sawchuck to Boston, Adam Oates to St. Louis, Marcel Dionne to LA Kings.....just to name a few.

[@massivecumshot]

You can thank Supreme Prick and egotist Jack Adams for those crappy trades - mostly done as 'punishment' for personal reasons.

[@badm0t0rf1ng3r]

The Larry Aurie thing always bugged me. The owners changed and they decide to unretire it...but never issue it? Makes no sense

[@victorsukhov8740]

@@badm0t0rf1ng3r the thing is Aurie’s number was never retired officially. It wasn’t put up in the rafters. It was just his jersey displayed in the hall of Olympia. Later, when the Ilitches bought the team they thought it was only logical to retire the numbers of the eventual Hall of famers. And Larry is not in the Hall

[@badm0t0rf1ng3r]

@@victorsukhov8740 I thought it was formally retired and they just removed it and placed it as an honored number. The hof caveat is so silly. Not everyone who may deserve their number to be retired with a team also deserves the hall of fame.

[@victorsukhov8740]

@@badm0t0rf1ng3r Agreed. I’m all for retiring Aurie. Then Pronovost. Then maybe Goodfellow and Lewis. Not sure about Syd Howe. And that’s pretty much it.

[@rydermccracken9199]

Joe sakic was a goodc2 way center

[@badm0t0rf1ng3r]

They should retire 6 formally. It's insane they had it retired and then unretired it but refuse to issue it. 16 is another that needs to go up into the rafters. I'm on the bandwagon for 91 being retired too.

[@flanky1210]

Don't forget Zetterberg was drafted at 210th overall

[@edmahl3365]

I thing there are a couple of missing cup winning years in the 1950s. The Wings won the regular season seven years in a row from 1949-1955 and won the Stanley Cup four times in that period. If they had not traded (or given away) Ted Lindsay, Glenn Hall and Johnny Bucyk, they may have won a couple more in that decade. Also, whey does S. Fedorov not get more respect, even from the Wing organization? Was he not the best player of his time?

[@matthewdaley746]

He's a terrible person, for one thing, and, they won a Cup, without, him, for another.

[@victorsukhov8740]

Fedorov signed the offersheet from Mike Ilitch’s worst real life enemy while Mike himself was on a life support after the open heart surgery. Fedorov must never be honored.

[@erikjohnson3434]

Missing the cups in52 and 53 I think

[@natemady1584]

Retire #16 The Vladiator.

[@flanky1210]

I wish you brought up Scotty Bowman for coaches

[@flanky1210]

@@matthewdaley746 how?

[@flanky1210]

@@matthewdaley746 under achievement? In 95-96, he set a personal record for most wins in a season, with 62 and 131 pts. Of those 3 years, Detroit finished 1st in Central every year. He went to the Cup in 94-95. Conference finals in 95-96. In 93-94, the Wings had 100 points. He won 2 Stanleys in the 2 years after. So not quite sure where the under achievement is.

[@flanky1210]

@@matthewdaley746 oh okay, so almost every coach in the NHL has under achieved. Great logic buddy.

[@catholicactionbibleonlyist1813]

The me it's Maurice Richard who is the best ever

[@matthewdaley746]

Ironically, his little brother is the only athlete in any sport, with, more rings than fingers, (other than Bill Russell).