The History Of The Great Tiger World Record

Thanks to Summoningsalt for doing preliminary research and Matt Turk for fact checking.
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[@TheCheezler]

Great Tiger is the very last of the 'simple' histories. The next eight fights will be very interesting.

[@enzoborghetto]

wait, this are the simple ones?

[@alexcharmander6973]

@@enzoborghetto yep everything bald bull 1 onward is a nightmare of execution and luck

[@Papamanual]

@@enzoborghetto yes, i consideredm doing Don 1, Hippo and Tiger as a single video, but the 'series' would be better if they were separate imo

[@pausegill]

@@alexcharmander6973now im real interested

[@Typical.Anomaly]

I do remember that Great Tiger was the first character to give me real problems in MTPO when I first actually owned it, back when I was 12 in 1990. I remember telling my parents of the amazing replay value of this game before they got it for me, likely as a selling point, and I stand by that statement to this day.

[@jacobfilicetti5805]

yeah same

[@dylanzlol7293]

The "Tiger tamer" name goes hard like damn i love that name

[@Max_Casetera]

I love how the video just starts, its like pap telling you: "yeah you already know the deal, lets get started"

[@Papamanual]

Speedrunners never watch the intro cutscene anyway

[@Max_Casetera]

That's right (great content man)

[@Protoman3]

I'm not sure if anyone knows this, but there's an easier way to tell Great tiger is about to throw a jab. Hold up to raise his guard, and when the gem flashes, GT will drop his guard, even though you're holding up. Then just face punch for a star.

[@Papamanual]

That is a nifty way to see he is getting ready to jab, much more obvious than just waiting for his gem flash. Nice find.

[@khodas1030]

Thats really cool, thanks, othereise id still end up TKOing this guy at tge end of round 2

[@phonicfan31]

Excited for Matt Turks 57.99 BB1 time. Salt pointed out in "The Quest to beat Matt Turk" that the time was listed as both 57.99 and 58.99, so hopefully the BB vid will clear that up

[@brisulph]

We skipped the opening minute stun creation by punch, block, 5 stun jabs? That was the OG round one strat.

[@Papamanual]

Ah yes, I did think about that one. Wasnt sure if it was considered a speed strat or more of a casual one. I just stuck with what was on RedTom's website as the "beginning" of speed strats.

[@brisulph]

@@PapamanualYeah it never got added, but was most definitely the starting point. I can see why you didn't include it, in that vein.

[@GrannySingaporePVP]

Pap is on fire with these videos! Thank you for the rapid uploads! You’ll get 100 views from me in the next 50 days, as I made a playlist of these and sleep to them every night!

[@jdurg]

Another really awesome history-of video in the MTPO series Pap. There was actually quite a bit to the story of the Great Tiger fight that I didn't know myself before watching this. Always look forward to seeing more of these.

[@Dungeon47]

Poor Tiger, just trying to do the needful, only to get shut down hard.

[@kaynify]

Great choice of music at start

[@matthiasplatz5919]

I'm convinced the programmers accidentally reversed the round intros for Great Tiger. Every other boxer with a fancy intro and/or different music always does their stuff before round 1 only, and just boringly moves out of the corner for rounds 2 and 3. Great Tiger does the exact opposite.

[@Papamanual]

very cool of you to spot that. There is something unique about each fighter, besides the very obvious things. And although I have not made an extensive checklist... I believe there is a similarity between any 2 fighters, that excludes all other fighters (besides the obvious palette swaps/punch repertoire)

[@MarioFan9238]

Yay, another one dropped.

[@alansmithee183]

Oh yeah...was hoping for one of these!

[@jamesknapp64]

Crazy seeing the history of these games; being many of the updates are almost 20 years old now.

[@rewandemontay]

Wonderful summary video, good job on each so far and good luck with the rest.

[@jimbo27007]

great history presentation of Great Tiger World Progression, Salt couldn't have done it better Kappa

[@historylife4436]

Matt who, never heard of him, lol. Awesome video!

[@lukerp1581]

Solid audio and editing 👍

[@stitchfinger7678]

OH SHIT time for new Pap

[@reedr7142]

But a kitten is no match for a tiger.

[@Olisdrawingcorner]

Matt turk can make the most bomb ass names For his Strategies god dayum

[@IgotJoClue]

Dont forget he's a hard fighter

[@jacobfilicetti5805]

Great video again as always Pap, i have 2 questions though, do you speedrun MTPO, and is the Mr. Dream version of the game the same as the Mike Tyson version?

[@Papamanual]

I used to speedrun it. I have a 15:24 which was good enough for 3rd place at the time I believe. Mr Dream version is the same as the Mike Tyson version (except they partially fixed the clockstop glitch on the Mr dream version - I cant exactly remember what about it was different, but there is something)... Also this is for the NTSC (NA version) of the game... Mr Dream version is different to Tyson version on PAL (European version)

[@jacobfilicetti5805]

@@Papamanual Cause I tried some of the speedrun methods but in some parts where you could punch someone in MTPO, you couldn't in Mr dream version, I think they made the fights slightly different, but you can still do Glass Joe 42 sec lol :)

[@mr-oso-8055]

(This is unrelated to this video. I just watched your other breakdowns of MTPO. I figured you might not see my question in those comment thread's) How does the tas get the good RNG? Do you have to grind out attempts. Or can you mess with the programming of the game?II know you can manipulate the RNG. But, it doesn't seem feasible to be able to get all you need if the odds are 1 in a million odds like they can be in some of the fights. P.s. I just found your channel... Great breakdown videos. Very informative, entertaining, easy to understand.

[@Papamanual]

I saw your other comment, and answered it

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

So, one thing I'm curious about, both in this fight and some of the others we've seen, is why do frame-perfect stars exist? In your explanation of how stars work, you made it seem like you can only get a star when the punch counter is 1, or when you land a punch and roll a random star, as long as the opponent isn't stunned. So why then does timing a punch on the last possible frame before Tiger would block give you a star, where punching any earlier doesn't?

[@Papamanual]

So for great tiger, the punch counter is always set at 1, so everytime you land a punch that could give a star, it ends up being star... A frame perfect delayed punch doesnt count as a 'dodge & stun punch' Frame perfect delayed punch is just a special case of the delayed punch (where it needs to be delayed to the final frame) some delayed punches have wider windows... up to 6 frames from memory.

[@Papamanual]

To answer your last question, if you punches in the face earlier, it would count as a dodge and counter punch, and not give you a star.

[@ryanchristian5024]

Anything MTPO I LOVE! I was SO SO happy when I was a child and FINALLY beat Mike Tyson. oddly enough, of ALL fighters to give me a hard time for the LONGEST time, it was actually Soda popinski. I didnt know about the black/star drink so i NEVER could get a star on him...took me so many fights to get good enough when I was 9 years old...

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[@decorativewingdings]

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE!! +first

[@Jahbron_274]

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[@Jahbron_274]

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[@jorgebrionesvillalustre3666]

You forgot the beast one: The Racial Slur strategy.

[@danielfazylov6960]

Welp my usual comment is clockstop possible if yes can you go lower than 47.48

[@steventhecookielover]

I don't think Great Tiger has the rapid punches to be clockstopped

[@Papamanual]

Steventhecookielover is correct.

[@danielfazylov6960]

@@steventhecookielover that's fair

[@antimattered69]

Nice video

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