The History of the Hokkien People (Part 1) | The China History Podcast | Ep. 216

[@jinwoo78]

I'm of Hokkien descent and it's interesting learning more about my heritage. My paternal grandfather was adopted by my great-grandmother as they were seeking refuge in the Philippines during WWII. My father's side of the family is from Fujian and I regret not learning enough about my own heritage so I'm trying to salvage that.

[@fredtan1506]

Same here, Avery. I'm second generation Philippine Chinese. We don't know who our relatives are in Xiamen (E-mung Ke Chui, meaning pass the waters), not one! It's sad.

[@SIO賣]

Hey another fellow Filipino of Chinese descent! I'm trying to learn Filipino Hokkien to I guess "Honor" my Cho-kong (Great grandfather). Besides the language sounds nice.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

Glad I can help in some small way.

[@Iuventius]

I am Tsinoy born in America from Hokkien descent. They say my great grandfather was fought with the ROC against the Communists, and was granted permission to take refuge abroad, and moved to the Philippines where he married another of Fujian descent.

[@K-Viz]

Di si lannang ba? Cool. Di e hiaw kong lannang ue ba?

[@iancoify]

Thank you so much for your research! As a Hokkien born in the Philippines, I am so happy to be learning about our history!

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

Thanks Ian. Glad you liked it. I learned a lot too.

[@lynjohnson203]

My grandparents are from Fujian, migrated to the Philippines.

[@elegiocantiga1756]

pinoy fokkien ka

[@jeanettesee4214]

I was just going to say that, exact sentence hahaha. Thank you so much. My mom who majored in Chinese literature always say that minnan dialect is closer to the original Chinese language than mandarin is, hope i said it correctly. Anyway, so proud to be a hokkien :)

[@pvdp2]

Hokkiens arrived in the Philippines during the Spanish colonial period were intermarried with local Filipino women and some Spanish mestizas of gentry backgrounds. Some of them hispanized their Chinese surnames while others dropped their original surnames and replaced by Spanish surnames. Their descendants were racially described as "mestizos de Sangleyes" and adopted the Filipino-Spanish culture. P.S. I have a Spanish surname but my paternal ancestor was Chinese from Fujian.

[@luckm8852]

My Hokkien ancestors moved to Southeast Asia hundreds of years ago. In fact, my great grandfather's great grandmother (some 9 generations back) was mentioned by a local scholar in his journal written in the early 19th century. Today, 10 generations later, I'm still fully Hokkien ethnically and can speak Hokkien but our living culture in terms of food and clothing have assimilated with the natural local environment.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

I love to see comments like these. This truly made my day. I hope this episode met with your approval. I appreciate you checking it out. I hope you will enjoy some of the other content on my channel. This is a ten and a half year passion project of mine and still going strong. Over 300 episodes. Thanks so much for giving it a shot.

[@luckm8852]

@@ChinaHistoryPodcast Thank you so much for the effort you've poured into this. I learn a lot from this channel. My ancestor's gravestone in Malaysia from the 18th century indicates that his ancestors came from a town called Haiteng (or Haicheng in Mandarin) which is today in the Lionghai (Longhai) district, Chiangchiew (Zhangzhou) prefecture, Hokkien (Fujian) province. I have never visited this place and hope to someday.

[@1966bluemax]

Wow 10 generations

[@caijunxu3300]

I am truly impressed by this video because I couldn’t imagine anyone doing a history research of Hokkien and making it such a great lesson for us! I am also Hokkien. My hometown is Jinjiang, Fujian. I am living in Shanghai and I really appreciate your effort and time for making this video! It was so well explained!

[@zhubajie6940]

Thanks so much for another excellent podcast. I shared a rental house with an old Hokkien from western Taiwan. He had halting English but considering in his life he had to learn Mandarin, Japanese, and English after he'd acquired his native Hokkien tongue, I'd give him a pass. Not bad for a man who started as a farmer and saw so much of the history of Taiwan. As an aside, I really recommend anyone who goes to Guangzhou to visit Museum of the Mausoleum of the Nanyue King Zhao Mo to understand that time of ongoing admixture of cultures of the Han and the Baiyue.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

A living history book

[@Yoyoyoyoasshole]

Nan Yue!!!

[@jingchangkhong4639]

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[@user-qwertyuiopasdfghj]

I am from the south (Jiangxi along Yangtze River) and I also have bai yue blood! Proud bai yue ❤

[@vicenteboonkianlim2703]

My family also moved to the Philippines from Fujian, My mother was from Amoy and Dad was from Leongkue. I went to Chinese school in a dorm in Tabaco and Legazpi for 9 years. Spoke Hokkien at home. I am so proud of my heritage. Living in Philadelphia USA now so as my other brothers. Thanks for this episode and the next one.

[@bienkee5278]

Deepest appreciation for yr.well researched materials on our Hokkien Heritage.Our forefathers were pioneers in Singapore/ Malaya and yr presentation trace their steps in history. Thank U.

[@Khatulistiwan]

Singapore and Malaya had a long history long before the arrival of the Europeans and Chinese

[@mofb8331]

pioneers in what...Singapore and malaya already being settle by the native malay

[@cudacularry2720]

@@mofb8331 the pioneer of Chinese diaspora.

[@thisistimothytye]

Thank you for taking the time and effort to fix the pronunciation for "Hokkien" -- perfect!

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

Thanks Timothy for your inspiration. I should have taken care of this sooner.

[@marierocher4422]

Is it possible the re-edit the history of the Hokkien people with mapping? Thank you.

[@kc66]

I am astonished by your knowledge of Fujian! Amazing!

[@MultiOranuch]

Thank you to know about this group. Cause of my grand mother´s mother emigrated to Thaialnd for more than 150 years ago. I never know so much about my ancestor cause of we are mixed with thai people. Now I understand more why I always endore Chinese people in Thailand. They work hard and get always succeed in business, education and so on. Bestwishes from Stockholm - Sweden

[@caijunxu3300]

❤❤❤

[@MatthewZmusician209]

Very interesting video, I just got an interest to study the min/ Fujian people.

[@annakoay4949]

Thank you for your explanation. Wish to know more about Hokkien people in China and to be able to trace my father's root in that province. I was told that my grandfather came from the village known in Hokkien as "kau tiam heow" (nine joss stick) and there are Chinese Muslim too. I am still wondering exactly which spot is it. My family members still speak in Hokkien but in Penang style (mixed).

[@caijunxu3300]

You pronounced Hokkien so well! It’s exactly how we pronounce!

[@1337flite]

My father comes from Malaysia a Sarawak town called Sibu aka Little Fuchou . The sea trade is extensive there it is I think nearly 100km up a river but ships come in from the sea and I believe the town is renown for very cheap goods as not all the duty is paid. The family speak Fuchou and Hokkien. My grandfather was Fuchou and I believe my amah was Hokkien or at least part Hokkien - both dialects are spoken extensively in Sibu. I'm European Australian/Malaysian Chinese - amo-lang. I lived in Malaysia for a year in I think 1982 and learnt a tiny bit of Hokkien. Most of my uncles and aunties now live in Australia or between Australia and Malaysia - as you say we really spread out over the world.

[@lintaobohan]

as a local Hokkien, I approve this video.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

And as a non-Hokkien white guy in LA, I am most appreciative of that endorsement. Thank you Tommy. I hope you check out my other stuff on this channel.

[@lintaobohan]

This is a excellent intro. I was actually surprised at a white guy who knew Hokkien history better most native Hokkien people. Good job. BTW, we still keep some weird savage custom, such as eating snakes. (ewwww)

[@trnkwangchiotwntranquangch785]

Hokkien or Hokkian derive from Min Yue (Minyue), not Han Chinese

[@steventan385]

My late father left Fujian Anxi in early 20th century to Malaysia. I went back to visit my relatives twice. I am the 16th generation of this Tan family in Anxi. The Tan or Chen were originally from Henan.We have one of our patriarch buried in Anxi apparently settled in Anxi since Ming time

[@jow14281]

hei.. we are related like 150 years ago.. but my surename is lee

[@elsiechan3245]

We have the same surname Chen aka Tan. My ancestors settled in what was Malaya then and now Malaysia. Still speak Teochew and Hokkien and proud to learn my origins can be traced back to Anxi.

[@steventan385]

@elsiechan3245 have you visited your relatives in Anxi

[@steventan385]

@jow14281 Wow, Lee related to Tan?

[@elsiechan3245]

@@steventan385 not yet, but thanks to your info, I can finally trace my origins & will finally plan a trip to connect with my roots.

[@techovore]

Zhongshan is a region in Guangzhou region where the Fujian people settled. In this region they speak a Minnan language called Longdu. It is very similar to Hokkien. My family is originally from Zhongzhan. Fyi, Sun Yat Sen is from Zhongshan.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

Very interesting. I've been to Zhongshan many times, always on business. Still have a lot to see, including Dr. Sun's birthplace.

[@momowon8611]

I am the 4th generation of the ong, or wang family who live in Indonesia. My great-grandfather is buried here. really miss the ancestral sacred land.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

I hope you enjoyed this episode. I also did a 2-part series on the Hakka Kongsis of West Kalimantan. This is more of a Hakka story than anything else, but I welcome you to listen. I've been to Indonesia a few times in my life and truly enjoyed my time there. I hope to visit more not that I'm retired.

[@TheLexiHuang]

I’ve been following your channel for a while and this has to be one of my favorite content! I always wondered if the Hokkiens later conquered Tang and established the Song Dynasty. Since I recall Song main language was Hokkien while Tang’s main language was Cantonese.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

Could be. There's so many theories about that. Can't say any are accurate. But also can't dismiss them. Either way, very fascinating. Thanks so much Jeremy for checking out my channel.

[@hiyukelavie2396]

It's hilarious how people try to claim bits of Chinese history for themselves The founder of Tang, Li Shimin, was born in northern China How in the world did anyone come to the conclusion that Tang was a Cantonese dynasty is beyond me lmao Seriously this is the exact same behaviour/mentality as Africans who claim that Cleopatra was black 🤣🤣

[@sidneywidney]

My ancestors migrated from Hokkien during the Qing Dynasty to the Philippines. Hundreds of years later I’m a first generation Filipino American 5 gen Latin American with Roots that go back to Italy in the 1600s. Very cool to learn about this subject matter thank you

[@SpankyRivera]

Love these videos. Feel like they would be 100 times better with graphics matching this narration.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

Much appreciated, we're starting to venture into re-editing old episodes with a video documentary approach, and this series is on the top of our list to get this treatment.

[@K-Viz]

I'm a Filipino with Hokkien ancestry from my father's side. My Hokkien ancestor migrated to the Philippines back in the late 1700s, settled in Pateros, married a native and assimilated into the greater Philippine society. It is estimated that at least 20 million Filipinos have some Chinese ancestry, though there are no exact figures as race isn't really recorded in our census.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

Thanks Kevin!

[@Mark-kr5go]

That must explain why some filipinos are paler than malays and indonesians, despite having the same race.

[@ywyee6059]

I am an oversea Chinese you provide a in depth knowledge to the Southern Chinese, good job

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

My deepest thanks and appreciation. I hope you will continue to listen. This Sunday I am launching a multi-part series on the History of Singapore.

[@tapak8330]

Pelajaran bhs hokkian sangat dlm ilmunya apalagi sejarahnya,,utamakan kebersamaan dlm berjuang agar keluarga terangkat bisa mencapai cita2 nya di mata dunia..❤

[@wesk7346]

Thanks for mentioning the Minyue Kingdom before the Han conquest.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

How could I not. And I thank you for listening Wes...much appreciated.

[@longdo9314]

Zhao Da originated from Hebei and was a general of Emperor Qin Shihuang, who brought 500,000 Jin people (Zhao, Wei, Han) to conquer and assimilation of Bai Yue tribes south of the Yang River. Bai Yue had more than 500,000 people (Min Yue only than 1,000 people at that times) after the fall of Qin, he claimed to be the king in Guangdong, Guangzhou and northern Vietnam( 甌雒 ) , naming the country Nan Yue 207-137, surname Zhao originated from the Zhao state, so Zhao Da was the Teochew first to become the Yue king in Guangdong, Guangzhou and northern Vietnam.Ancestors of the Teochew people's Zhao(state )people 403BC-222BC, The Zhao people(Teochew) migrated to Fujian(Putian), Guangdong, northern Vietnam, the Bai Yue tribes were assimilated with blood and culture by Zhao people , bringing the family name of the Zhao people (Li, Chan, Zhang, Kwok, Ma..)

[@rudyyu5279]

My heritage is Hokkien, from Fujian province. My dad was born on Gulangyu Island (a UN heritage site) - a status symbol at the time, had 3 wives simultaneously and smoked opium (another status symbol) who migrated to the Philippines pre-war era. My history begins after migration. Thank you for the interesting insights for this culture within a culture.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

I regret I never made it to Gulangyu Island on my few trips to Xiamen. Quite a life your father had. Just incredible! Thanks for checking this out Rudy.

[@1966bluemax]

Gulangyu is that the same as ko liong xu? My mom side is from that. She said it’s an island in front of Xiamen

[@mollykay9037]

In Hokkien pronunciation, it’s called ‘Kor Long Su’ or ‘Gu Lan Yu’ In mandarin. It’s a beautiful UN heritage site full of European style structures and used to have 16 foreign consulates including US, Japanese, Britain etc. after China lost the opium war.

[@MsOpineminded]

Interesting.....I was told the Hokkiens are like the Scots of China...bc Fujian is mostly mountainous and with a small strip of arable land, poor lands meant many impoverished Fujianese were more likely to risk all and seek fortunes abroad. Also the Wuyi mountains made the province relatively isolated and somewhat rebellious. which is why the language is also a bit of a holdover (isolate) from a more ancient past. Apparently you can tell a lot about the culture from the food as well which tens to be relatively less refine than the South (Guangdong) and slightly more stodgy both bc of the mountains but also due to poverty of the land. ...not sure how true this is.

[@Jumpoable]

Very true. Hokkien (Southern Min) is highly fascinating for linguists. Most other Chinese languages/ dialects are directly descended from Middle Chinese (from the Tang dynasty) but Min retains a whole substratum of Old Chinese from earlier periods. Higher vocabulary are spoken in a "literary register" that is from Middle Chinese, so there are almost 2 or more pronunciations for every Chinese character, sort of like cognate pairs like Germanic words & Norman French words in English (yard/garden; candle/chandelier; hostel/hotel). As Hokkien retained this fossilised Tang pronunciation, a lot of Hokkien words sound rather similar to Sino-Japanese, Sino-Korean & Sino-Vietnamese vocabulary. As for Hokkien cuisine, yeah, it's more rustic compared to Cantonese or the very refined Huaiyang (Eastern Chinese) cuisine. Think Taiwanese street food & Teochew "da lang" (late night snacking). Of course there is always banquet food/ fine dining for those who can afford it). They have a lot of different cakes & pastries though, now spread all over Southeast Asia as (kwe/ kway/ kuei).

[@michaelneo2050]

Praise for your well researched n pronounced Chinese terms. Really impressive n robust presentation of my ancestral history. I m second generation Hokkien lang in Singapore. Resident in UK for 40 years. Really enjoyed your voice n knowledge. Give us More!

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

Thanks, Michael, glad you liked it. Over 200 hours' worth of stuff for you to pick through here. With more coming every week. I just had lunch the other day at one of our local LA joints for a nice big bowl of Hokkien Mee. I'm sure it wasn't as good as what you can get in SE Asia, but it sure was good.

[@galaxymetta5974]

I visited the nan yue museum and ruins twice. Now then i know it is related to my hokkien lineage. Cheers.

[@vikavikassumi2908]

Could you find any history of the tribes that migrated to NE of India from China? Just found this channel and this was really fascinating. Shall be very grateful if any clue or traces can be found about NE tribes of India and Nagas of Nagaland India in particular. Thank You Sir.

[@batalkoko5667]

Mostly of the Hokkien people are traveler a lots of Hokkien in Malaysia Singapore Canada and Philippines may parents they are came from Nan'an Chixi Fujian China and now I have a two brothers in China and me in Philippines.

[@tingtingnoy3133]

Bai Yue was mostly Ai Lao and their relatives the Zhuang peoples, after the failed rebellion in the 8th century against the Tang some 400,000 Lao and nanyue feld into Nanchao and the tributaries of the red river. The Lao who are the ancestors of the Tai eventually migrated and settled in southeast Asia and eastern India

[@keboonplumeria5266]

Many in Sabah, Malaysia too

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

and here in Los Angeles too!

[@keboonplumeria5266]

@@ChinaHistoryPodcast wow! It's amazing. At first I guess that it might be Florida. Some of household here get a family ties, there. I think some went for business purpose in late '80s. I'm surprised with this info 💥👍

[@bobkids009]

I am a Chinese born Hokkien outside China........Thank you for the brief story about Hokkien history way back to the ancient times in China; however I can not understand what it is all about even though you had carefully explained the roots of Hokkien from mainland China. I did know that my great grand mother was from China but we hardly know the history back ground of Hokkien in China. Nevertheless thank you so much for enlightened us ( the Hokkiens ) the history.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

Thank you for listening Mr. Lee, and for commenting. I appreciate it.

[@indrabayu8381]

@@ChinaHistoryPodcast my ancestor is from Fujian ..Hokian people..Min Nan south..people..Min Yue..Ancient Min Yue Kingdom..And My Name Is Wang Ting Yen...and Hokkian name is Ong Ting Yen...migration to south east asia..ti Indonesia..

[@jeffreykeh2267]

I am interested in the photo at the start of the video and where you got it. I believe the picture is Pastor Nga Pit Keh and his family from around 1910 or so

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

I regret I don't know where I picked this one up from. Finding images that are free to use gets more and more difficult these days.

[@claudetaiwan]

Very comprehensive description of 福建人 history. And very objectively. Good job. You almost decoded the term “ Han culture “.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

Thanks Claude.

[@khmak9387]

I'm half Hokkien. It's probably the most complex dialect because it has more than 4 tones, plus strong tone sandhi. Also great for cursing as short expletives can be easily strung together!

[@anatheistmyself]

@KH Mak *THERE ARE FIVE TONES - IN MANDARIN CHINESE!* As for Hokkien: nine tones and eight sounds.

[@khmak9387]

@@anatheistmyself I think some sites disregard the 5th (neutral) tone. And for overseas Hokkien in many places, some of the tones have merged so we no longer have as many.

[@anatheistmyself]

@@khmak9387 It is seriously a surprise you would reply to me without swearing at me! 😯 My bold and capitalized letters: I was not yelling at you, rather, I was making a point. As for some sites disregarding the 5th tone - I do not know about that. Taiwanese Hokkien's ninth tone is basically reserved for loan words: with some Korean English loan words and mostly Japanese English loan words. The eighth sound "collapsed" into the seventh sound.

[@anatheistmyself]

@@khmak9387 Korea and Japan *share* 100 English loan words *together.*

[@khmak9387]

@@anatheistmyself I am a maths teacher. Teachers don't swear.

[@renishii6834]

My visit to Xiamen yielded information that fookienese is divided into 5 dialects-among them the very famous Min nan hua.

[@davidwong4754]

We are Hokkien descendants in Guangdong province. We speak both localised Hokkienese and Cantonese.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

謝謝王先生！ So pleased to have you as a listener. I hope there are other episodes on my channel that interest you.

[@ivysn13]

i appreciate ur channel so much... thank you

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

Thank you Ivy.....And I appreciate it even more than you appreciate it.

[@asianpath1004]

I wish I could trace where my father came from in this large part of fujian

[@renishii6834]

Old letters can give a clue. Also the so-called family associations ( based on family name if known) can shed light. Sometimes, mere ancestor name like grandfathers can give away the ancestral hometown.

[@chompythechomperchomp]

there's a should a family tablet.

[@d00mch1ld]

I speak a very rare dialect, called Longdu. It shares a colloquial layer with the Fuzhou dialect. My ancestors must of came from Fuzhou and settled in Zhong Shan.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

Very interesting!

[@fenxian]

So, Hokkiens from Baiyue, not from central plain? To my knowledge, descendants of Baiyue mainly at today's Guangxi, Yunnan where Zhuang, Tong, Miao people are, most of them shorter, while Hokkiens taller.

[@ex_ceed]

im not sure if i have any hokkien in me but the dialect we spoke where my grandma lived in philippines had a mix of hispanic and hokkien.

[@hatchegg80]

i'm half hokkien and half hakka, i guess that makes me a double "superstar" lol. let's face it, the cantonese didn't get along with anyone, history bears this out, look at the civil war with the hakkas where tens of thousands died, and also with the hokkiens on a smaller scale, only because there is no territoral dispute thanks to the mountain range protecting fujian

[@juamu1132]

damn who knew the war of the 8 princes was this devastating.

[@missysugardustunicorn7398]

i'm impressed with your correct pronunciation of the word Hokkien. Do you speak it?

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

Funny story....I recorded this episode and uploaded it as usual....Then the next morning I received an email from my Shanghai-based HK friend (who is Hakka) who said, "nice episode but you pronounced "Hokkien" wrong. I had recorded it as "Hǒk" kien....with a short "o" sound. Like "hock". Shame shame! After being schooled in the correct way, I immediately re-recorded the episodes using the "Hawk" pronunciation. Thousands and thousands of people had already listened by then. But more have listened to it since. The damage was mitigated. This is what happens when I stray too far from Mandarin. Glad you appreciated it. I thank you for listening.

[@zcsensor9675]

I bet he can speak standard Mandarin.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

@@zcsensor9675 albeit poorly....

[@missysugardustunicorn7398]

@@ChinaHistoryPodcast i'm a native Hokkien speaker and i can attest that your pronunciation is correct. slight variation exists even amongst native speakers and we're not that uptight about it. in actual fact, we tend to say it as hock-kien rather than hawk-kien so to each his own, it doesn't change the essence of the word so no damage done. the fact that you're a non-native speaker ought to be appreciated, so "A" for effort! :)

[@mahuang700]

Can you Suggest me Some Book or link Source regarding of this topic?🙏

[@yuegonghuamei6685]

TewChow, Chau' Jou- is same root with Fu Jian? Fu Jou is northern n different ethnic from Fu Jian n Chau' Jou?

[@Jumpoable]

"Ethnicity" is a slippery thing. Mostly EVERYONE is mixed in China nowadays. Try finding me a full blooded Han Chinese LOL. 3000 years of war & mass migration, you think no Han women got raped by Huns/ Turks/ Mongolians/Jurchens? Or no Han immigrant married a nice local Yue/ Vietnamese/ Tai/ Hmong/ Zhuang girl when they moved down south? But to answer your questions, The "Chow" in Teochew is the same as ZHOU in Mandarin, so Chaozhou (Teochew), Guangzhou (Canton), Suzhou (Soochow), Hangzhou & yes, Fuzhou all ends in that word, which means province/ territory in Chinese, but also refers to a big urban area/ city in modern Chinese. FuZHOU is the capital city of Fujian province. It's considered Mindong (Eastern Min) & they speak a completely different language that is not "Hokkien" which refer to the Minnan i.e. Southern Min languages as "Hokkien" comes from the cities in the southern coast. Even though the term "Hokkien" in English comes from the Hokkien word referring to the WHOLE province, but no, not everybody in Fujian speaks or identifies culturally as "Hokkien" LOL.

[@yuegonghuamei6685]

@@Jumpoable thank you. Very fascinating. My father n adopted family frim Shang Tou' near Chao Jou. He moved to Vietnam was about 20 year old n heard they come from well.to do family im surprised due his family was poor and his dad sibling very well to do in Vietnam was shock too like among richest, handsome good people too except my family due my parents had 9 kids n he became alcoholic. I was adopted by handsome rich man begging to adopted me. Seem my adopted mom side in Thailand very wealthy they wanted adopted but not happen not know yet due all old people dead, im too busy struggle make living help my dad family n poor to do all research. Im 60 now. Very fascinating to find out my root is very great people or not but my own sibling are trashy greedy ego slimmy alcoholic especially against me. Im confused. My mom half Chinese n Vietnamese that's why i guess then Vietnamese do well now n reform its writing better so show Vietnamese are very smart too. I have fascinating life though, very high point n low point too.

[@atatkk]

TewChow or Chau Jou should be spelt Chaozhou 潮州 in Pinyin. The 潮州 pronunciation is "Teo Chiu". 潮州 people are from Guangdong province 汕头 Shantou area and not Fujian province, though Teo chiu and Hokkien 闽南语 dialect sound quite similar.

[@MichalBatNoach]

I am Hokkien-Teochew from Singapore.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

The best of both worlds! 恭喜你!

[@prasitkoysiripong5150]

My family moved from Fujian to Phuket Thailand where Hokkien people are major population.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

I've been to Phuket several times. Paradise on earth. I did not not about the Hokkien being the most numerous. Thanks for the info.

[@samaval9920]

You Tube has other Hokkien videos cuisine folk music & song modern music & song pop rock rap, hip hop? Hokkien speech descriptions instructions modern films, especially comedy etc.

[@ryeowookimida]

I find that a lot of korean words and japenese words have similar pronouciation to the hokien or cantonese counterparts

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

I'm sure there's some reason. A job for a forensic linguist.

[@Lalalalala98872]

Hokkien and teochew retain a lot of sounds and words from older/middle chinese in comparison to mandarin which has a lot of newer sounds. During this period, chinese culture influenced surrounding countries like Korea, Japan, and Vietnam so there’s a lot of similarities in vocab. F.E.) in teochew, chap chay means mixed vegetables and is a soup. In korean, Jap Chae came from the samec characters in chinese and had the same meaning. In mandarin it’s Zá cài.

[@letikomaedi636]

I wish there is subtitle.

[@billthh1]

Its interesting to get to learn of the history of my origin from a foreigner.🤔🤔🤔

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

Chinese culture is loved and appreciated all over the world.

[@paulinaruiz928]

Can you please do a video on the Cantonese people?

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

Don't worry Paulina...Cantonese, Hainanese....haven't gotten to them yet...

[@andrewondon]

Who is from yongchun or nan'an?

[@firstnamelastname6071]

Does that mean the Hokkien people with huang, chen, lin and zheng surnames were actually descendants of Northern Han rather than the ethnic tribal inhabitants of Fujian?

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

I can't say for sure these days. Maybe someone from the listenership can shed some light on that.

[@MonicaTanAnLeng]

I believe so. My paternal grandparents were Chen and Zheng and both clans traced their ancestors from Gushi County, Henan.

[@misanthrope-kf6qi]

Do you have the sources for the information you used in this podcast, especially about the migration of the Ng, Tan, Lim and Tay clans? I remember reading a quote somewhere sometime about what the northerners said about the pronunciation back then. Not sure about its veracity. Also, I'm sure the part about the Southern tribes being unschooled in Confucian ways and bring covered in tattoos is tongue-in-cheek but it does sound kind of racist by today's standards. The term 'Han' Chinese is used by the Chinese government to refer to the majority culturally-assimilated group, so it's kind of like being 'White' in America. People outside of China don't usually use that term. Furthermore, the Taiwanese are proud of their austronesian heritage. Thanks for the time taken to make this video. Peace.

[@da1stlangzai]

Han is an academic term. If Taiwanese and Singaporeans take a DNA test it would come back as Han Chinese. But overseas Chinese people like myself use the term "Hua Ren".

[@1966bluemax]

Stephen Lin I thought we use hua chiao hehe

[@JessLimbnl]

:)

[@MH-ms1dg]

regarding your last comment, i agree, as soon as the late to post-Han period, there were observations that Southerners were more informed on Confucian etiquette than the drunk and partying officials at Luoyang

[@misanthrope-kf6qi]

@@MH-ms1dg Oh what resources did you consult?

[@chessonso2610]

Good to pay homage to our Bai Yue ancestors.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

I hope you liked the program. Please check out some of the other shows. Thanks for taking the time to listen.

[@chessonso2610]

@Jacky Phantom Yea right, Fujianese are descendants of Bai Yue. Bai Yue aka 'Min Viet'.

[@longdo9314]

@@chessonso2610 Zhao Da (Trieu Da aka Trieu Vu Vuong) originated from Hebei and was a general of Emperor Qin Shihuang, who brought 500,000 Jin people (Zhao, Wei, Han) to conquer and assimilation of Bai Yue tribes south of the Yang River. Bai Yue had more than 500,000 people (Min Yue only than 1,000 people at that times) after the fall of Qin, he claimed to be the king in Guangdong, Guangzhou and northern Vietnam( 甌雒 ) , naming the country Nan Yue 207-137, surname Zhao originated from the Zhao state, so Zhao Da was the Teochew first to become the Yue king in Guangdong, Guangzhou and northern Vietnam.Ancestors of the Teochew people's Zhao(state )people 403BC-222BC, The Zhao people(Teochew) migrated to Fujian(Putian), Guangdong, northern Vietnam, the Bai Yue tribes were assimilated with blood and culture by Zhao people , bringing the family name of the Zhao people (Li, Chan, Zhang, Kwok, Ma..)

[@Yoyoyoyoasshole]

@@longdo9314 Dai Viet!!

[@tingtingnoy3133]

@@chessonso2610 most bai yue are ai lao zhuang peoples not vietnamese

[@driver3667]

Thank you for your effort. Some observations, your ability to read and write Mandarin is far stronger than some. Its nice to know how translated history is surface. And what the weakness when I study history and culture. Its like we are trying to describe dinosaurs from dry bones. First, learn the language. Still learning after all these years. Interesting to you, What word/pronounciation is used for the animal dog and the variation within the umbrella group of the Hokkian. Its interesting because it reflects the ties to older...ergo Han. China and USA are not similar. You or I would not be welcome in any of the native American reservations. Although we could maybe chat up and be slightly more acceptable to a prospective inuit mother in law. Have a nice day.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

Thank you for your observations and thoughts. 天下为公. This is what we should all strive for.

[@Whowhatwhenwhereandhow]

Vietnamese Tran Dynasty ancestry was from Fujian. 300-400 years before the Tran Dynasty replaced the Ly Dynasty.

[@ongchinlam4631]

Thanks. Your are welcome. Okay

[@englan6595]

God is great for bless us hokkirm role.

[@henrysevern]

Difficulty to follow at times, if you have little knowledge of Chinese history, but a good informative podcast nevertheless.

[@deniswanggg4850]

i'm Indonesian Hokkienese my surname is ong 王

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

There are many Ong's here in Los Angeles too. And over 100 Million in China! I hope you enjoyed the episodes. Thank you for listening.

[@christjones5210]

Me too

[@deniswanggg4850]

@@christjones5210 orang mana?? wkwkw

[@handel1111]

My ancestors surname is Ong but when they arrived here in Philippines, they changed it to Lim

[@obduliagabriel968]

My great grandfather's from Amoy China.

[@misanthrope-kf6qi]

We are T'ng Lang... Not Han... That's a 20th Century exonym.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

Is T'ng Lang 唐人? What would be the characters for that?

[@misanthrope-kf6qi]

@@ChinaHistoryPodcast I think that's the case. Chinatowns are usually named 唐人街。However there is the folk belief that 'T'ng Sua' actually means 'long mountain'. In Singapore there is a place called Bukit Panjang. I think it is a reference to this mythical 【唐/长】山。'Sua' is ambiguous between flat and hilly land. For instance ‘山顶’ swadeng is used to mean rural areas, rather than a literal hilltop. I think this concept of 'swa' applies to ‘汕头’ and '汕尾’ as well.

[@chiangchengkooi9791]

T'ng lang means Tang dynasty people, oversea Fujian Chinese will call China T'ng Sua meaning Tang Mountain.

[@padmeteratai3658]

@@ChinaHistoryPodcast Yes, th'ng lang is 唐人, Hokkiens called themselves that as equivalent to Chinese

[@1966bluemax]

xxx xxx in the Philippines, we use sua Deng colloquially to mean going home to the province (rural area basically)

[@fenxian]

I'm wondering Holko 福佬 origin from West😅 I only know it from Wikipedia 😅

[@eechoylee6532]

Which Hokkien are you talking about?

[@joeawk]

My grandfather came from Amoy. My father was born on Malaysia. We have lost contact with our Ang relatives in China.

[@mark72141]

How true is it that Hokkien and Cantonese do not get along ?

[@nameisezio1963]

those who stay at msia, spore and indon....they are called "pendatang"

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pendatang_asing

[@PravdaSeed]

💚🇨🇳Thanks🇨🇳💚

[@angbee2667]

And I am a hokkien lang from penang, M'sia.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

I love Penang!!! Wish I could come visit soon.

[@yuegonghuamei6685]

Hokan is same as Fu Jian people?

[@Jumpoable]

Fijian people are from Fiji. ;) Hokkien is the Hokkien pronunciation of Mandarin Chinese "Fujian," yes.

[@yuegonghuamei6685]

@@Jumpoable sorry im 2nd gen of oversea Chinese from Vietnam though so i don't know China that well but fascinating about it especially Chinese writing is hard to get know China n spelling system is so underdeveloped n confused too. My family have done many terrible things to me so i don't talk to them long time too n most them in Vietnam im in America so make it hard to find my root but when we're together i forgot ask them these stuff.

[@Jumpoable]

@@yuegonghuamei6685 Good luck sir.

[@thomashom7514]

Lots of creative spelling here! The beauty of Chinese characters is we can see it’s meaning regardless of how one reads it. 福建人。

[@yuegonghuamei6685]

@@thomashom7514 no, one Chinese character has many meaning n many sound so make it very hard to learn n use in today info age. Dumb outdated Chinese politicians.

[@aloyd6157]

i wish there were words rather than pure audio

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

It's a lot of extra work. One day I'll find the right person to partner with and turn all these audio podcasts into videos.

[@davidlaw9686]

Chin Dynasty was not the first dynasty of China. Thus Chin Tsi Huang wasnt the first emperor of China. The first dynasty of China was Xia Dynasty.

[@jmhsieh7103]

Is Hsieh or 謝 a Hoklo surname or Hokkien surname?

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

Not sure about that....Are there any surnames that are exclusively 福佬 or 福建? I would think 謝 is a surname shared by anyone who is Han Chinese. I'd have to ask around.

[@jmhsieh7103]

@@ChinaHistoryPodcast I was wondering because I read Wikipedia the hometown of Hsieh was supposedly Kaifeng Henan province and u mentioned the mass migration of han settlers during the quin dynasty to fujian and the southern parts of China my family supposedly is from Fujian and migrated from southern fujian to Lu kang city during the quing dynasty later on.

[@jmhsieh7103]

@@ChinaHistoryPodcast lu kang btw is in Taiwan western side in Chunghwa one of the major ports of Taiwan during quing rule so a I suspect my grandpas parents came from southern fujian during quing rule and there ancestors presumably henan province during quin rule with mass amounts of han Chinese for the yellow river area coming south wards to what is now Fujian.

[@jmhsieh7103]

@@ChinaHistoryPodcast another reason why I think they are Tolkien is because they speak a southern min variation or Hokkien Taiwanese and they were in Taiwan before the 1949 evacuation and after the koxinga were annexed by the quing.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

@@jmhsieh7103 Interesting theory indeed. Something to look into.

[@Hokgao1]

What is the difference among Hakka, Hokka, and Hokkien?

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

Hakka 客家人 - go check out my episode on them: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWislY2intSHbbc It's a long story.

[@nancynahnigoh3550]

The dialects spoken are different in many ways , teowchew and Hokien are almost same dialects in anyways

[@filryanyap238]

Third generation from Philippines❤

[@djintotjandra247]

I LIKE THE HISTORY ...:-)

[@Rayza82]

Are most people in Taiwan Hokkien people, at least partially?

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

Their ancestors mostly came from around the Zhangzhou, Quanzhou, and Xiamen regions of southern Fujian. That would mean they are considered Hokkien Chinese.

[@芋頭丸-z6c]

哇，有趣有趣咯！

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

感谢感谢芋头丸！

[@alfredgamerzzgamers3970]

My gennesss

[@mpgabriel819]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤kijk een goede leerstof❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

Je hebt het hier gevonden!

[@nicolewinters]

Why is a white man describing Hokkien culture to me? Im shocked

[@questworldmatrix]

Ooh! Tan. That's me.

[@matthewhartman7176]

I'm guessing my Chindo GF's hertige is from here given that her and her family speak Hokkien at home. 😂 Her eyes are a bit larger/rounder than other Chinese people's, and also her complexion is not dark, but not pale either. She lives in Singapore now, but her family is still in Medan, Indonesia. As a side note, and pro video editor, you need to juice up the editing to make this content more engaging.

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

Yeah Matthew, you're right. I started this off as an audio podcast back in 2010. The mountain I need to climb to turn all this content into video files is just too steep for me. Between image licensing and the extra editing, there's simply no way for me to do this. I know it will transform this channel and grow it quickly. But I'm a sixty-something-year-old guy with limited tech capabilities and can barely produce what I currently produce. I hope you like some of the other stuff on my channel. Thanks again Matthew.

[@liongkienfai104]

While Hokkien is the lingua franca among the Chinese community in Medan, it is actually an extremely multicultural place. Hakka, Cantonese, Teochew, Hainanese, Hailiokhong, Henghua, Hubeinese, etc all speak Hokkien there. You better just ask her elders instead of assuming.

[@matthewhartman7176]

@liongkienfai104 Unfortunately, she doesn't know the specifics of her extended family history as she said records are a bit hit or miss within her family lineage. Her own father doesn't even know his exact birth day. That's what we're dealing with here. 😆

[@yuegonghuamei6685]

Hokka people are richest oversea i guess like Singapore Vietnam Malaysia? They've been SE Asians earliest lot numbers many places so easy for them get rich especially Taiwan is most Hokka too too? TewChew is most smart n good looking good people like me.

[@Jumpoable]

Are Hokka a mix of Hokkien & Hakka...?

[@thomashom7514]

If you are so good looking, I anxiously await your next movie.

[@gengerosejesura942]

Lots of Hokien lives un the Philippines

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

So I heard.

[@steventan385]

Come visit me in Malaysia

[@user-pt2pc5uf1g]

Chee Bye was the first Hokkien term I learnt

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

What does that mean?

[@elsiechan3245]

Something not good at all. Rude.

[@xXxSkyViperxXx]

@@ChinaHistoryPodcast it means a lady's 🍑

[@MK-gn1nz]

"woo hoo invaders" 😅

[@bloodcoon]

I’m full fujian, to all my cousins out there we have more Neanderthal DNA than any other race to date

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

That's interesting. I wonder why?

[@bloodcoon]

The China History Podcast id love to help you find out, if there’s anything you would like help with please lmk. My brother tested more than 97 percent Neanderthal dna than the average person tested. I have natural dark red hair. It’s black in most lighting but under sunlight it looks like my hair is brightly highlighted

[@aave865]

Neanderthals dont exist in modern day. There may be DNA traces but too weak to be considered a living species.

[@conwillsoh5953]

Who is From An Hui

[@steventan385]

Anhui? Means Anxi. Tea land. Home of my late father. I still have relatives in Anxi

[@andrewlin6136]

Find out more about INDIA as many people says that's India belongs to Hinduism then where's does Mughals Empire comes from

[@danielm.4346]

Would you please get some real subtitles for this video? "Jaquez"'for Hakkas? "do choose" for Teochews? What is CHP 150? And CHP 176? Do you really care to be understood by people?

[@ChinaHistoryPodcast]

I can't control KZbin's system. Anything using languages other than English are going to get mangled. I'll manually fix these all one day.

[@winters4960]

CHP 150 stand for China History Podcast EPISODE 150

[@hongng3963]

We r hearing this from a person who sound like 老外

[@Thuyp743]

Funny for the chinese the bae yue a baberian but yue king goujian swordt make by the yue smith a chinese proud cultur things. again chinese manipulations whit history of the south.tuanle🇩🇰

[@Yoyoyoyoasshole]

Cong Rong Chau Tien!!!!! 🐉 🧚‍♀️

[@TKN_NTBY]

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