💖 The History of The Tiffany 💖

[@CGPGrey]

A sequel of sorts: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3a5aqSlqtVlo7M

[@shork416]

YAY

[@Daniel.Li.1]

Unnyay

[@shork416]

@@Daniel.Li.1 NOO

[@hye2354]

@@Daniel.Li.1 >:(

[@hye2354]

Hi

[@rocksnaek]

In few years im expecting a spike in people named Tiffany, and 700 years from now someone mentioning grey as the reason

[@Anaguma79]

I'd expect an even larger relative bump for Theophania.

[@idiosyncraticlawyer3400]

Which I'm sure Grey would want to be alive for.

[@ThePCguy17]

I'm putting money on this. Get out your cryogenics, lads, we have a bet to win. I'm betting against the OP, for the record.

[@ayoxe]

Careful what you say everyone. This is now a landmark of history.😉

[@CaesiumAKAPianoslam]

Very much so! Pretty sure it would become “Teff” or plain “tiff”

[@TalasDD]

Grey got Lost in the Forest of all Knowledge again. This time He discovered the woods of Parish Registers and Familie trees. All because someone made the wordplay of Tiffany epiphany.

[@BigFatWow]

It's not even a pun, since it's named after the Feast of the Epiphany. Thus the serpent eats its tail.

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

At this point, Grey has set up camp there.

[@TalasDD]

@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 he is building a Kingdom there.

[@robinsuj]

@@TalasDD With rank choice voting, of course

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

I love this community!

[@glasdonjm]

This honestly feels like the most quintessentially "Grey" video in a while. Thoroughly researched, genuinely interesting, and completely irrelevant to my daily life.

[@obiwankenobi4252]

Thoroughly researched, possibly after Grey was researching a bigger topic before falling down a rabbithole that was meant to be a small tangent

[@bassrelic5030]

I Love this Comment 😅

[@uhohhotdog]

Queen lion is very relevant though

[@PramkLuna]

I'll never need to know or will be the pope, but I'm still glad Grey made a video about it

[@Zoroasterisk]

As I type this, your comment now has 4K likes. Before I upvoted it, it was 3.9k. Here's Tom with the weather

[@RamathRS]

My 5-yr-old daughter is named Tiffany. She loved every minute of this, watching with wide eyes bright with excitement. She said, "He made a video about me!!"

[@sonam9881]

This is so adorable!!

[@SkashTheKitsune]

glad she doesn't have a tiff with the video.

[@theargonaught44]

Well that's just adorable.

[@calamaribowl8683]

Aw

[@Pillzpop]

Presenting Tiff, Empress of the Empire! The Top Tiff!

[@benshort9071]

I feel like the turning of “I really don’t care about this” into “why do I actually *really* care about this” is solidifying as the niche of this channel. Love it

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

Grey basically just says "I care about this now, for some reason, and I'm dragging the rest of you along with me!"

[@cadebradbury9334]

I don't think there's a more perfect description of this video

[@MrTridac]

SHARKS!

[@Dubloh]

This one stayed in the I don't care about this category. But had someone not recommended it I wouldn't have clicked on it anyways so oh well

[@MrCheeset]

Grey is slowly going insane with his recent videos and the lengths he goes to for them and i'm totally here for it

[@thewatcherinthecloud]

What is the pursuit of knowledge but the insane leap into the unknown?

[@soghitankoiko6059]

Maybe Tiffany is just his girlfriend

[@esbenandersen5706]

_Sharks!_ is listed as a related video. I'm not entirely sure how you would think those two related, but Grey made the leap.

[@iamkulit1cs613]

The pandemic is just letting him make videos on random things he finds on the internet

[@suspecm6316]

Let's not forget Grey traveled to another continent just to find a museum of an old dead person closed, then went into a cementery to find an old person's grave.

[@jcoogs7149]

If you gave 1 million Grey fans 1 million years, there's no way any of them could guess what the topic of the next Grey Explains video will be

[@michaelvnuk]

Pumpkin pie

[@BryceJ80]

Makes you wonder what he was actually researching when he fell down this rabbit hole.

[@danghostman2814]

Well, let's start guessing. Birbs and areoplane design.

[@Blox117]

the topic was your mom

[@justlithuanian9142]

@@Blox117 And what about moms?

[@therabbithat]

Tiffany, incredible military strategist, knows when a battle is doomed. Tells people it's astrology.

[@jennychen1297]

Wow this might actually be true. Given how females had basically no say in anything.

[@emeraeldfoxx2405]

@@jennychen1297 certain ones. And certain ones had almost all the say. Whoo!

[@SavageGreywolf]

...this is surprisingly plausible. Movie when Hollywood Oh right, never, because you'd rather fart out C- Marvel movies forever.

[@CAPUSA]

Prequel to "Psych"

[@ongseungwu4311]

Well if she said she's a master strategies.. she could have been killed immediately especially in 900s

[@TheGroovyGuitarDude]

I feel like Grey’s channel has turned from a mostly history related channel, into an embodiment of the “Wait… how did I get here??” sentiment we all have when falling down the KZbin rabbit hole. I love it.

[@ansubanerjee672]

I love seeing you everywhere man, one of the most active ppl on yt

[@TierosIsBetter]

I’m so deep in this rabbit hole that by now I shall never escape. SEND HELP NOW I’VE BEEN STUCK AT MY COMPUTER FOR NEARLY ONE AND A HALF DAYS STRAIGHT

[@julonkrutor4649]

@@TierosIsBetter "Help" will be there shortly ... just close your eyes, count to 10 and power down the PC

[@Suntoria236]

Exactly

[@fligglebobbin]

Seriously how does he decide on his topics? (Not complaining it's just funny)

[@EnsBowentc]

Theory: Grey chooses his subject based on his opportunity for alliteration and wordplay

[@miriamrosemary9110]

It certainly feels that way!

[@dubbel3088]

Call it "The Tiffany Theory"

[@hOREP245]

It definitely feels like the constant alliteration distracts from the actual content. He really overuses it.

[@miriamrosemary9110]

@@hOREP245 He did repeat "hexagon is the bestigon" way more often than I was comfortable with 😂

[@lucasng4712]

@@miriamrosemary9110 Not alliteration

[@ZackN85]

I love how Grey's video topics are, increasingly, selected primarily based on the strength of the alliterations and rhymes he can use in them. "a Tiffany epiphany"

[@pafnutiytheartist]

Hexagon is the bestagon?

[@RainbowFlowerCrow]

@@pafnutiytheartist eh, that's the truth, Ruth

[@P-Mouse]

Carol Brown just took a bus out of town.

[@weirdo1896]

@Electroboss I think that's an emoji Grey made for channel members

[@dagreatleaf9003]

@Electroboss that is only available for people with membership for his channel. Pay up!

[@shuriken05]

The funniest part about this all is that I watched this video AFTER the sequel....and the fact that the poem is nowhere to be seen cracked me up despite being the one to cause you much pain.

[@Imbeachedwhale]

It’s not completely absent. Look at the books at 8:25, Grey left a reference he alone understood before the poem video.

[@utkarshmishra7416]

Sameee

[@davidschmidt5507]

Same!

[@KuromiLiz]

LMAO SAME

[@yanirmicha3206]

same

[@tiffy717]

As a Tiffany I can confirm I own and carry a neon torch with me at all times.

[@calebthompson8230]

Wouldn't help, the bag is also neon

[@shototodoroki3543]

just saying because if you're reading this and still trapped in religion it's not too late to leave and seek truth

[@awsomeabacus9674]

but are you also a divine manifestation?

[@shototodoroki3543]

@@awsomeabacus9674 that's illogical.

[@stereo123]

I'm halfway through the video and paused it to scroll down and see if there were many tiffanies commenting. There are not. Thank you for speaking up!

[@CGPGrey]

[@jarzz3601]

all hail tiff

[@bassammulla]

i got to admit, you got a talent where you could answer a question that i wouldnt have asked in a million years and make it interesting, i am sure if you only used 1 percent of your brain in something relevant, you would find the cure for cancer.

[@BujuArena]

How did you put a custom image into a KZbin comment? Oh, is it a custom emoji, which can be used for your stream chat?

[@professionalsimpdestroyer4135]

@@jarzz3601 The top tiff!

[@brizzly1787]

The best tiff, the top tiff

[@a.h.s.3006]

Expectations: Grey talks about how names form over hundreds of years. Reality: Nope, he is actually specifically talking about Tiffany

[@Trazel_Apeally]

If he did all names, we'd probably be here for at least as long as Tiffany has been.

[@MsZsc]

spending hundreds of hours gaming fan spending hundreds of hours scouring census books enjoyer

[@notmee2388]

Which begs the question: Why Tiffany? My guess: He's got a thing for a girl named Tiffany. If so, nicely played.

[@Human_traain]

Teophany

[@beskamir5977]

@@notmee2388 Yea that'd make sense, my guess he's probably either married to a Tiffany or in need of baby names.

[@leagueoflags]

The dinosaur eating historical records is the most accurate metaphorical description of any historian's feeling when trying to desperately find just even one source of a historical element.

[@yuuri9064]

In case you are a historian, I have a question: how does one even find potential sources, let alone access them? Are a lot of them replicated or digitized? Grey said that he looked at basically anything and everything that seemed like it could've been a list of names, but how might he have found them, do you think?

[@leagueoflags]

@@yuuri9064 It really depends on your subject matter. Generally speaking, the Industrial Revolution with its explosion in literacy and writing made it so that there are many, many sources on, say, WWI. Once you get to the Early Modern period (the time between the discovery of America and the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, reading and writing becomes a hobby and means of communication of the church and the remaining other social elite. Even though common people often had some basic understanding of reading, their oftentimes everyday writing basically never got preserved, as you wouldn't preserve your shopping list, for example. So, to finally answer your question. If you are just looking for new information, grab a handbook and check out the sources cited within, working your way down to the originals. If your subject matter is of some interest, chances are someone wrote an index of sources (which is not the case in the Tiffany question). Finally, if you've gone through all of the paper trail that exists and all of the secondary literature, you have to do very basic work yourself. This means going to archives, reading old church records, that kind of thing. However, this is like looking for a needle in a haystack and most historians do NOT do this, unless it is their personal field of highest experience and it has basically become their main source of work. As an example, a naval historian on the Spanish Silver Fleets might have an intricate knowledge on, say, the naval archives of Sevilla, where he personally scanned or transcribed many hundreds of pages from Early Modern ship and freight records, analysing those and publishing articles or even books on it. I hope this helps.

[@yuuri9064]

@Love Law Thank you!

[@yuuri9064]

@@leagueoflags Thank you for such an in-depth response! I didn't know that there were indexes of sources at all.

[@leagueoflags]

@@yuuri9064 You're welcome!

[@TheAvengineer]

This is actually unironically a topic I really enjoy, there's just something really fun about perceived anachronism when history actually had a lot more things we just assume couldn't have or didn't exist then.

[@arklestudios]

Ridley Scott had to remove a sequence involving merchants sponsoring gladiators from the movie Gladiator because even though it was (as far as we can tell)m a thing that happened, studio execs thought it would be too anachronistic.

[@LordOOTFD]

Yeah, it seems like a lot of the time people think that the people of the past were idiots, not just ignorant of modern knowledge. They came up with a lot of clever ideas and applications of what they did know that are really fascinating, since even without our modern knowledge they were for the most part just as smart as people today.

[@maple22moose44]

@@LordOOTFD yeah, it’s kind of like how people think that people thought the earth was flat till recently, the greeks knew about it and even calculated the circumference with surprising accuracy edit: spelling

[@nocturnomedieval]

Now do it for Karens. I'm pretty sure Homer wrote somewhere "release the Karen" 🤣

[@calumwatt4360]

The authentic Grey experience: "Well, I have no idea what this is really going to be about, but I know it is going to be interesting"

[@Kihidokid]

I'm actually very confused about the title

[@jasonreed7522]

I was expecting a video on a "Tiffany" stereotype lifestyle or something. Not a video on how you trace names through history.

[@EmperorTigerstar]

I imagine the second mini explosion in the late 1980s was also because of the pop star Tiffany who was popular in the late 1980s.

[@fn6391]

You here

[@selahrising]

I was surprised she wasn’t mentioned.

[@AramatiPaz]

I had to google to find out who she was, but thanks spotify I find out I've heard her before.

[@munkyphunkable]

you and I are the only people who remember the singer Tiffany. There were thousands of us, it was once common knowledge. But alas, I think we're alone now

[@tkfaf15]

@@munkyphunkable Flying in to say there is a 3rd person who remembers the singer Tiffany.....That song was way overplayed some days.

[@xaviersaavedra7442]

The scotchronomicon in front of his desk is a nice homage to his struggle.

[@nfspbarrister5681]

...but where the chuthlu-like book named "the struggle" go? (Refferrence to :Brexit and Brexit: revisited video).

[@rodlurks66]

@@nfspbarrister5681 that was "the troubles"

[@nfspbarrister5681]

@@rodlurks66 ah yes. Mea culpa. But grey has to talk about it! Especially now.

[@Whiterabbit124]

Scotichronomicon

[@ashleycd6487]

the crotch gnome what now?

[@TiffanyCheung0912]

As a Tiffany, that’s an uncomfortable amount of Tiffany being said in a short amount of time

[@albevanhanoy]

But do you have a Neon Torch?

[@internetperson3436]

Username checks out

[@TiffanyCheung0912]

@@albevanhanoy of course for I am but a Tiffany

[@TiffanyCheung0912]

@@internetperson3436 why thank you for your observation

[@nanananaxhhd4330]

@@internetperson3436 well she already said she is a Tiffany

[@asdfaeou8391]

Once again, Grey makes me care about something I could never imagine caring about seconds before the video started.

[@AlasdairGR]

Grey has lost all pretense of safely and accurately navigating the Forest of All Knowledge and now has just become an aimlessly wandering resident 😂

[@TheRealColBosch]

"And here is the Philosopher's Stone, the Godhead of Reason, the Alchemical Heterodyne, the Sacred Hermaphro . . . dammit, Grey, stop taking notes about the Shrub of Tiffany!"

[@thundercrash4775]

So, he's a Knowledge Hobo?

[@therealyeeterman]

Aren’t all smart people

[@cruxdraloor8950]

Not all who wander are lost

[@lordrorek1907]

He's become the Rama of the forest of knowledge! 😂

[@belltowersubductions5104]

If you ever want someone to understand the butterfly effect, show them this video. Random guy moves to America, suddenly thousands of people are named Tiffany a couple hundred years later.

[@Graham_Wideman]

a couple hundred years later is hardly "suddenly".

[@SpirusOfH]

I was sure the Tiffany thing would be a metaphor or way to explain his methodology for the main subject, but nope it was just the main subject.

[@Maxoverpower]

"Wait... It's all Tiffany...?"

[@rxquettes402]

@@Maxoverpower always has been 🔫

[@ramoncatalangonzalez8301]

And I'm glad it wasn't. This was very interesting.

[@alistairwraight3890]

Man the internet just cant get enough of the christmas sneezing photo

[@benshort9071]

It’s Tiffanys all the way down

[@neverson42]

people: "omg you need to make more videos!" grey: **literally puts 400 hrs of research and scripting into an 9 minute alliterate video about "tiffany" that no one knew they needed**

[@Engieman909]

@White wolf maybe so, but its hard to chase relevant topics when it takes a month or even more to finish a single video. And I personally wouldn’t like it if he started talking about current politics like the US election and start a war in his comments. Grey fits in right where he is

[@Kenionatus]

@White wolf I really like the random deep dives into obscure topics. There are a lot of other people doing the more relevant topics, but few really excel in Grey's niche.

[@Lumpfriend]

@White wolf I think its hard to know how much research a topic can require before you've already got your nose in it

[@Sofiaode18]

@White wolf That will make him no different than any other channel that does trending topics. Grey is doing well staying in this niche so frankly talking about the pandemic or current politics isn't unique at all.

[@TheInfectous]

​@@Engieman909 not to say that he shouldn't do this but let's be honest, this isn't reaallly a historical video, it's a fictional entertainment piece based on a few facts of the time, yes it's well researched but you could say game of thrones is well researched... covering different more relevant topics don't necessarily have to be current events. it could be the description of the life of someone living in different areas to give perspective of why certain beliefs are the way they are in certain areas. division is a problem relevant to current day, so a video to address division could literally be a video based on the lives of nobility vs the lives of a commoner in ages past and talk about their different interactions what they heard, learned, society productivity roles. personally though I think it's fine to give entertainment for entertainments sake but I can see why the other commenter would like more relevant videos.

[@Jimbobfromoklahoma]

Grey is exactly the right kind of crazy. I point my students to his videos for what REAL research looks like; spiraling down irrelevant rabbit holes when trying to research larger topics.

[@HarryVoyager]

Which is how I ended up stumbling upon the origin of the word "tarmac" while trying to figure out whether it was, in fact reasonable for an R-2800 to fail catastrophical after 5 minutes at 66" with methanol water injection. Yes, that's a real thing...

[@rawcookiedough7518]

@@HarryVoyager wow that must've been a trip and a half

[@calamaribowl8683]

Wooooo

[@torgranael]

@@HarryVoyager I have no clue what an R-800 is, but I feel you.

[@bugjams]

I love this kind of "irrelevant" research, because it's totally relevant. It's human history. The fact people call it "irrelevant" is incredibly sad. What else that we consider important today will be called irrelevant tomorrow? It's exactly how history is lost. Every bit of human history is worth holding on to.

[@FWDDGS]

AAAAH!!!! I just saw the Scotichronicon!!! The hints! The Hearne Hints! The Hidden Hearne Hints! The hidden Hearne hints half-heralding a horoscope of heroic historiography only revealed today!

[@Trekeyus]

Oh if only I could punch hearne

[@anonymouscausewhynot]

@@Trekeyus go punch his grave (when it’s safe to travel)

[@catgaming9369]

@@anonymouscausewhynot i might do that too. (When its safe to travel)

[@the1Blind]

The Horror!

[@blueblade6174]

This channel is just magnificent. Taking a random topic that seems uninteresting or unimportant at a surface level then turning it into a fun learning experience.

[@kysier6015]

You just summed up exactly why he does it. "There are no uninteresting topics"

[@soghitankoiko6059]

I wonder what encouraged him to made video about Tiffany 🤔🤔🤔

[@kysier6015]

@@soghitankoiko6059 No idea, but my head canon is he has this enormous partial dyson sphere a few systems over that has only 1 purpose: Spin a planet sized roulette wheel with every conceivable topic in existence on it. Next week: *spins wheel* The origin of mashed potatoes.

[@dexter2392]

There are videos on this channel about really important topics, like "Rules for Rulers" or "How the Electoral College works", and then there's this... Pirates, tumbleweed, and now Tiffany

[@Ghost-gj1bx]

@@kysier6015 Now I want to know the origin of mashed potatoes lmao

[@rstainsbury]

I swear, I absolutely CANNOT predict what subject this guy is going to cover next. Voting, nuclear weapons, medieval names...his next video could be either about colonising the moons of Jupiter or how turnips are farmed in Uzbekistan and I wouldn’t be surprised!

[@dre5586]

That’s exactly what Grey would do

[@aliencow9220]

I swear his next video better not be about turnips because of you. though it would probably still be amazing

[@IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar]

Uzbekistan turnips are the Best-i-stan turnips?

[@RealRomplayer]

How about planting turnips on a moon?

[@shambhav9534]

Why Uzbekistan is the Bestistan?

[@thedofflin]

I can't honestly believe Grey decided it was worth picking up and reading "Transcripts of Charters relating to Bilbertine houses" just for 30 seconds of video content.

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

It's a riveting read.

[@miobiuscrimson2828]

That's what's history is most of the time. Sometimes it's even more tomes and even less knowledge, not to mention the trouble you have to go through to get to see some of them.

[@erinmcdonald7781]

@@miobiuscrimson2828 Tome: the sound my brain makes when it realizes that in it's quest for the grail of knowledge it must suffer a journey through perilous caverns of dry verbiage.

[@miobiuscrimson2828]

@@erinmcdonald7781 I'm not sure what you are getting at exactly.

[@jogennotsuki]

*Gilbertine

[@Glace_cakes]

“If you look in English you won’t find much” ah yes. Because of a certain poem… perhaps?

[@GatsuUkio]

Me who come from the "Backstage" video: XD

[@wizzotizzo]

what

[@santiagomoreno8640]

Shu’p

[@angryanchouart4384]

Sertain/ I didn't notice the joke

[@CubicDoggo]

CGP Grey: The man who can monetize going down a KZbin/Internet rabbit hole

[@someguy7412]

Don't forget the guy who literally puts out a series called "down the rabbit hole"

[@Raptor810Blue]

@@someguy7412 ???

[@ringostarr6167]

Except this isn't a internet or KZbin rabbit hole

[@Raptor810Blue]

@@ringostarr6167more of a history rabbithole

[@highkea]

@@Raptor810Blue the channel is Fredrick Knudsen, great videos but they stretch out a bit longer then greys.

[@tiffanymorales3813]

As a Tiffany, I thank you for this magical journey, sir. You have my utmost respect!

[@Infinity-ty1pl]

ok tiffany

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

ok theophania

[@BuenoSuertes]

You aren't alone now...

[@nfspbarrister5681]

Go get your neon torch, and be top tiff!!

[@davidfadden7948]

this, and the "dead person ruined my life" videos are WAY more interesting then they need to be. Holy crap, I am sharing this with everyone

[@greensteve9307]

Same.

[@johannesstephanusroos4969]

than*, not then

[@JoshSweetvale]

Science journalism. Most 'alternative' news avoids this frustration by _going by memory._ Which is blasphemy.

[@ZackRice-sg15z]

I see Grey spent his lockdown in a totally sane way

[@CuriousDiscourse]

day 510 of "15 days to flatten the curve" will do that to you.

[@OliverTheAmpersandCat]

that made me laugh

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

Spaceship Grey is sailing smoothly.

[@gormauslander]

If he doesn't propose with a Tiffany & Co cavalry saber, that's not your man

[@EzioHanitore]

Omg I love your sword where'd you get it? Omg thank youuu i got it a Tiffany's

[@sammyisanoctopus]

Truer words were never spoken.

[@idiosyncraticlawyer3400]

already married, he is (he proposed with a tungsten ring)

[@00Klingon]

she'll pretty much have to

[@urchinowdelaresistance5109]

*Well, that was a romantic fantasy I wasn't expecting. I'd love for a partner planning to make commitment vows with me to offer a sword*

[@mjohnson5030]

Grey's super power is an overwhelming addiction to solving history mysteries. Grey's super weakness? An overwhelming addiction to solving history mysteries.

[@CreepersNeedHugs]

2:26 For anyone wondering, this is the conversation: "Should we verify it?" "We do not want to break this beautiful history."

[@isiffrin]

"No sharks allowed." Loving these subtle callbacks to past videos Grey.

[@cloverandanais]

SHARKS!

[@Jacobstx]

I feel betrayed... He went on and on and on about how it must always be spelled _Sharks!_ And then he just.. doesn't?! My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined! Ruined I say!

[@scottishbananaclan]

Sharks!

[@mrtuocs8531]

in this picture there is a shark hidden in the background

[@theothercd]

@Patrick Chang ever heard of a joke

[@boo453]

Grey down the Tiffany rabbit hole: "I think we're alone now..."

[@Nerdykid95]

There doesnt seem to be anyooooone arooouuuund

[@mclarkerules]

"And as I recall, I think CGP kinda liked it."

[@stozoul]

The beating of our hearts is the only sound

[@pintpullinggeek]

What would they say?

[@MrAdrianeagle]

​@@Nerdykid95 I think we're alone now

[@walterkipferl6729]

Love the little mistake monster hiding in the book stack when Grey is annoyed he can‘t prove the connection between crusader Hugh and Tephany.

[@fazdoll]

3:35

[@ragingmaia3919]

@@fazdoll thank you for that

[@jeiku5314]

I was really confused why Theophania was the empress of the HRE when we were still Byzantium, but it turns out she was a Greek princess of the Byzantine Empire, and then was married to Otto II of the HRE. Very cool! They do be trying to pull another Charlemagne and Irene.

[@chase9316]

With almost a million views, there's bound to be someone in the audience that names their kid Tiffany because of this video.

[@creativecredence850]

I'm thinking it's more likely that they use "Theophanus" and call 'em "theo" for short.

[@blahsomethingclever]

*their

[@dave2.077]

yeah im going to do it. but its going to be spelled tifanny and is going to be pronounced like fanny pack

[@RainbowFlowerCrow]

@@dave2.077 just make sure that they don't go to England then; fanny means something different over there....

[@dave2.077]

@@RainbowFlowerCrow i dont know what you mean by that but i am already scared of the english

[@AlasdairGR]

“The Top Tiff” is one of the highest titles and honors in the land.

[@CaTastrophy427]

Now if only there was a Pope Tiffany... The Pon Tiff

[@water-poweredmachine8291]

"The Top Tiff" with the top stiff?

[@cheesychi8317]

This man and his rhymes. I feel like I'm watching Dr. Seuss if he had a history channel

[@sion8]

*+*

[@davidadams421]

That's a Tiffany epiphany right there.

[@seansmagee]

And even more alliterating.

[@rosepinkskyblue]

I love the rhymes 💖💖

[@totallyrealnotfakelifeadvi7547]

So much alliteration

[@geofford]

5:03 “No sharks allowed!” Brilliant callback.

[@trash1089]

Sharks!

[@snowleopard064]

I don’t get it *cry*

[@Your_choise]

@@snowleopard064 reference from the sharks episode

[@EliasMheart]

Thanks, didn't see it until now :)

[@dmitriykashitsyn3383]

Have a look at the barrels on the right ;)

[@NotaTechGuy177]

I seriously respect Mr. Grey’s ability to “utilize the Forest of Knowledge,” so to say.

[@TalasDD]

lets be honest. He is lost there. he even used the doomsday book this time. he is slowly becoming part of the Forest and someone will have to save him.

[@seigel2289]

This is why I love grey: I couldn't have cared less about this topic and still I loved learning about it

[@CJ_McK]

"Trusses of trust betwixt the islands of evidence" - I really like this line, it keeps popping back into my head

[@cammm063]

People who haven’t seen this video’s sequel: “aww this is a cute, simple video!” People who have seen this video’s sequel: “My deepest apologies, Grey.”

[@infiniteoctopaw]

As a Gen Z Tiffany, I appreciate this. Thank you. I carry my neon torch given to me by my 80’s mother who named me after a truly awful 80’s singer, with pride.

[@P-Mouse]

Children Behave...

[@LeoStaley]

Tiffany wasn't that bad

[@greensteve9307]

Come on, she had at least one great song. :)

[@atruv2089]

@Male 09 Yup. Born 2002. 19 years old.

[@hexogramd8430]

tiffany was a great singer

[@tealduckduckgoose]

This weird progression of history for Tiffany has led to the coinage of "The Tiffany Problem". The phenomena where things which were contemporary in medieval times seem too modern to be believed by audiences, much like a woman named Tiffany in the 1600's

[@Tacticslion]

Fun thing: I was literally reading up on that yesterday. What fun timing!

[@maddie9602]

I remember a post about that going viral a few months back (which I suspect Grey was inspired by). Some other fun examples are that Rome not only had what were basically fast food restaurants -- stores where the lower classes could buy cheap, pre-prepared food and eat standing at the counter -- but also had athlete sponsor deals, where famous gladiators and chariot racers would be paid to endorse products. They also celebrated birthdays -- in a class on Roman history I took in college, we read a translation of a letter from one highborn woman in Roman Britain -- presumably an officer's wife -- to another, inviting the latter to her birthday party. It's one of the Vindolanda Tablets, if you want to look it up; I think the names were Cornelia something or other and something Lepidina.

[@adjoint_functor]

Yup, he's talking about that in the director's commentary! Almost what this video was going to be about. Turns out to mainly be based in Lady Godiva stories though.

[@donov25]

@@maddie9602 I guess I don't fall for it as a problem. My favorite I guess not quite example of this is still the graffiti in Pompeii because if you saw it written on a bathroom stall today you wouldn't bat at an it. We've been people the whole time it turns out.

[@nenntmichbond]

Two "phenomena", one "phenomenon"

[@orCane]

"Neon Victorian" is now a setting I desperately need to see realised in fiction!

[@roidroid]

"The Diamond Age" is kinda close, but it's like Snowcrash explores nano-assamblers and everyone's very into Victorian styling (it's a sci-fi).

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

Cyber-steampunk.

[@orCane]

@@eyesofthecervino3366 Ok, scathing, but not uncalled for. I guess what I saw before me was really more a neon-lit Belle Époque or something. Cthulhu Gaslight but the gaslight in question is a neon sign.

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

@@orCane Oh. Well, I definitely wasn't going for scathing. More like a glory-days-of-Doctor-Who zany mashup.

[@TalasDD]

ima already happy with the slew of neon noir movies that came out this year.

[@VeracityLH]

"While I can't prove the Tephany-Hugh connection 100%--which kills me..." Welcome to every genealogist's life.

[@heroino89]

Ah yes, my favorite medieval movie: Breakfast at Theophanu's.

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

I also like the late-Medieval French remake, Dejeuner chez Tiffaine.

[@pathaleyguitar9763]

underrated comment

[@roidroid]

GATHER, TIFFANY ARMY, WE FEAST ON THE MORN'

[@danvince2360]

I don't know how safe I'd feel eating breakfast at Theophano's.

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

Shoutouts to all the people named Tiffany watching this

[@soulsidejourney2693]

imagine being a dude and named tiffany lmao

[@Eterrath]

@@soulsidejourney2693 Imagine not being named Theophanus

[@edsweet2858]

Imagine having no mustache

[@slayden2737]

hey

[@jupiter2175]

KZbin LITERALLY PUSHED UR COMMENT TO THE TOP LMFAO

[@DeFlekkie]

I love the fack that not being able to prove a 1100 family connection "kills" Grey. It's alright Grey, you can call that one.

[@paulbelanger7383]

Did you mean 'fact'?

[@rolosfriend7553]

@@paulbelanger7383 Didn't you watch the video? English spelling is whatever

[@DexFire1115]

@@rolosfriend7553 tat es uh phakt

[@fyu1945]

I've just came back from the newest video about the poem and I just realized there's a Scotichronicon laying under Grey's desk from 5:34 onwards. Those details!

[@SwitchAndLever]

That's like, totes, a gnarly video Grey! Tubular!

[@Soso17970]

Lmao

[@PresidentNathan]

radical bro

[@nfspbarrister5681]

Oh gosh!!! The 80s back!!

[@iq9844]

"I am known by many names." "Mountain Slayer." "Thunder Lion." "The Chocolate Axe." "But you? You may call me... Tiffany."

[@nowydexter13]

Did not expect SAO Abridged reference, but it fits perfectly xd

[@xdruidmaster]

I watched the video and was going to put this if someone else hadn't. 10/10

[@greenben3744]

Man, this username fits.

[@ciherrera]

Damn how did I not think of this myself… I need to go rewatch all of SAO abridged

[@chancetempleton3829]

SAO Abridged is better than SAO...Fight Me!

[@koenpvr5186]

"Hackney, No sharks allowed!" And that little shark behind the barrels, all at 5:03 . I see what you did there Grey

[@amauryleblanc7979]

Damn you got eagle eyes!

[@JNJNRobin1337]

Wait, Thats A Shark?

[@JoaoPessoa86]

Nope, INJUNCTED!!

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

Sharks!

[@jophmac]

SHARKS!

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

Can Tiffany be a reoccurring character in your videos? I love the way she talks and she provides an excellent contrast to your serious, studious character. Plus, hearing you do her voice is hilarious.

[@coldfire0007]

This is what happens when you wish on a monkey's paw to have everlasting knowledge of the universe, and every trivial thing becomes equally fascinating as the creation of the universe, or the meaning of life. I just want to thank Grey for sharing a drop of that beauty he sees with us every time he decides to make a video.

[@djcfb2889]

Grey is now the one and only Tiffany-ologist in the world.

[@Insulted25]

A Tiffanologist if you will.

[@ussinussinongawd516]

Theophanologist since ology is from greek

[@jamm6_514]

The Second* Although by far the supperior one

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

Unless someone out there is really interested in high-end New York jewelry.

[@tenaciousdean6179]

Sorry but Grey perfectly encapsulates what it's like being a historian

[@alexia3552]

I love that pop culture shaped a generation so drastically. It's an interesting point to observe how strongly a piece of art that resonates with you can change your choices

[@Moltensheep]

Best part of CGP Grey videos: They get you interested in a random topic that you never would have considered holding any reason to research

[@Kalleosini]

You spent an ungodly amount of hours researching this video. I'm just glad you're doing something you enjoy, like going through centuries worth of census books from both england and france..

[@justcallmeSheriff]

And yet he still confused the Eastern Roman Empire with the Holy Roman Empire...

[@Kalleosini]

@@justcallmeSheriff neither of which were in france or england. checkmate

[@hotdogvan3399]

@@justcallmeSheriff This has been discussed elsewhere in the comments. Born in Constantinople, married the Holy Roman Emperor. I will grant you Grey should've clarified that, though.

[@justcallmeSheriff]

@@hotdogvan3399 but if he meant the German state, he shouldnt have show the Eastern Roman Empire, Constantinople, a clearly "Byzantine" lady, and discussed Greek pronunciation. He goofed. Big time.

[@lordz19]

It’s actually insane on how Grey can hyper-fixate on these random topics and enjoy doing it. But, i’m not complaining.

[@jasonreed7522]

And then we enjoy listening to his "tangent" about it. Also not complaining.

[@TavisAllen]

"But, I'm not complaining." -- Neither is Mr. Grey's bank account.

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

Grey and his crack team of researchers. They are all legends.

[@Squidly_Venture]

Welcome to ADHD

[@merrinatrix]

I am a teacher. And I can't wait to show students some of your videos as a way to see different kinds of animation, but also how someone can go research topics that they find interesting and then use that information to create some thing interesting and entertaining. I love your rabbit holes.

[@technetium9653]

These people had lives, stories, now forgotten but by luck of history remembered again

[@alexp6013]

That's the thing that's beautiful about record keeping. History will forget you, until it doesn't

[@Bangpath247]

like I needed another reason to visit mont st michel

[@nanananaxhhd4330]

@@Bangpath247 what is that?

[@willv2746]

@@nanananaxhhd4330 the castle in France highlighted in the video. It’s packed with history, and a very cool location.

[@Apersonl0l]

Was expecting him to be cry-laughing in a random graveyard again

[@anthonythompson6053]

I’m not sure how to feel about the fact that we can end that statement with “again”

[@colinz226]

I feel ¡GREAT! about it.

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

Wow, he didn't even take the time to visit Tiffaine's skull in western France.

[@jmckenzie962]

Absolutely adored the "No Sharks Allowed" sign when you mentioned Hackney.

[@slashplane]

5:55 there's a SHARK! in the bottom right. EDIT: SHARK!

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

In the directors commentary he said how his mind was blown when they found the Hackney connection!

[@angelholguin7562]

Came here to say this 😁

[@DeFlekkie]

Sharks!

[@duckyhascurls]

This made me weirdly emotional and I don't know why. Thank you, Grey, what a wonderful story

[@MateoQuixote]

The fact that I'm totally engrossed in this video is a marvel unto itself, as usual CGP Grey has blown me away

[@AdamPreset]

I’m married to a Tiffany and she rules. I will call her “Top Tiff” from now on.

[@TJ52359]

If she's Top Tiff... wouldn't that make you Bottom Adam (Not that there's anything Wrong with that)

[@notfunny3397]

Unfortunately top tiff was already claimed in the 14 century.

[@Mark01962]

You mean Tip Top Tiff

[@nfspbarrister5681]

@@Mark01962 tippy-top tiff!

[@NerdsmithTV]

I love how giddy Grey is throughout this video. You can just tell how excited he is to take us all with him to explore his Tiffany epiphany.

[@zacharytaylor2983]

Kinda sad that you never mentioned Charles Lewis Tiffany’s son: Lewis Comfort Tiffany. He was the foremost American interior designer of the Victorian/Edwardian era, and was quite famous. His work with stained glass, particular decorative lamps and windows, are stunning and are still highly sought-after antiques.

[@calunsagrenejr]

Comfort Tiffany was shown on screen.

[@varana]

@@calunsagrenejr But that was Charles Lewis' father. Zachary Taylor was talking about Charles Lewis' son, evidently named Lewis Comfort after his father and grandfather.

[@MeowyMorganstine]

Thank you, Mr President

[@MenloMarseilles]

wait is THAT why they're called "Tiffany Lamps"??? wow

[@zacharytaylor2983]

MenloMarseilles Yes

[@xyz_yosh]

I thought this would be a video on the Tiffany Problem, where things that seem anachronistic really aren't and make a piece of media seem unrealistic. Ex: you could write a story set in the middle ages with a character named Tiffany but it wouldn't seem realistic because it feels anachronistic when it isn't.

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

That's interesting, and it's pretty closely related to the conclusion Grey came to. Tiffany is, like, totally Medieval.

[@ymeynot0405]

Exactly what he (Grey) says in his explination video.

[@maximumforce8275]

English please?

[@stormveil]

@@maximumforce8275 People's perceptions of the past don't match with how it actually was. So when the past is portrayed accurately, people mistakenly believe the portrayal is wrong.

[@bcdm999]

gnu Terry Pratchett

[@stefangrobbink7760]

Answering questions no one has asked, this is probably the most solid research anyone will ever do on this topic.

[@cardsnapper2098]

I cannot stop thinking about that happy little dinosaur eating those documents, it is ingrained into my memory.

[@AramatiPaz]

If Mine from Ascendance of a Bookworm see that she'd make sure they went extinct again. XD

[@tiffanyb94]

As a Tiffany, I thoroughly enjoyed this video and will now be requesting a neon torch of my own.

[@tempo5366]

I couldn’t help but smile while watching this video. None of the people mentioned had a chance of knowing all this and this whole chain of events would have been lost forever. But fortunately we have Grey, putting all the pieces of the puzzle together…

[@sonicrulez6916]

I think it's now a theme for Grey to get slightly deranged every time he tries traveling past the 1800s.

[@ortherner]

yes

[@pratikharani3102]

The amount of alliterations astound and amaze all.

[@StreetofCrocodiles]

I don't know, it's getting to be too much. I find myself having trouble getting through the last few fully scripted videos. The rhyming and alliteration has become an over used trope and its cleverness has worn off.

[@TheMister123]

@@StreetofCrocodiles cease your silly dissatisfactions, Sol. Sate yourself with something more soothing. 😃

[@amauryleblanc7979]

@@TheMister123 Nice one, but keep in mind the non-native english speakers! :p

[@TheKazragore]

I have to burst your bubble to correct you that it should be "number of alliterations".

[@mirjanbouma]

Affirmative

[@victoriareissilveira9129]

This is amazing. I love studying genealogy and census records, the oldest Tiffany I was able to find with that spelling was one Tiffany Catyll from Devon in England, born in 1572 (according to Devon Parish Records)

[@mach7archangel]

You always find a way to make a topic that most people would assume to be hopelessly dull, into something fun to watch. Thank you and nice job!

[@andrewdonaghy1248]

The absolute talent of this man to create content about the origin of "Tiffany" and for it to be fascinating

[@CPUGenuis]

1:00 In Koine Greek effectually all words have their endings change depending on their place in a sentence. So when Theophano is the subject of a sentence it parses one way, and when it’s the object it may be Theophanu. I’m not fresh enough on it to remember which is which, however. In short, the different names for Tiffany in Koine Greek come down to parsing.

[@luciferkotsutempchannel]

As if ancient Greek wasn't hard enough already...

[@MH-ms1dg]

yep! a common feature of ancient Indo-european languages in general, declensions and conjugations

[@gerwantofrivera3725]

@@MH-ms1dg ancient?

[@TransRoofKorean]

Another thing to consider is that dictionaries (ie., books meant specifically to teach people how to pronounce words) are, relatively speaking, a completely modern invention. Even when some ancient languages had fairly consistent spelling norms, we _still_ tend to only be able to guess how they were pronounced at a given time, guesswork based on how the words evolve over time.

[@MH-ms1dg]

@@gerwantofrivera3725 many have lost declensions over time, right? even if they still have declensions, they're greatly reduced? (i know conjugations are still very much around, oops)

[@maryatremblay6049]

this made me smile today. the amount of research grey puts into things is absurd and wholly needed at the same time. thank you

[@JoelJames2]

Grey’s Wife, Tiffany: “Babe, you didn’t forget my birthday, did you?” Grey: *snaps out of Forest of All Knowledge induced haze* “Wha-of course not! Here, I made a video all about you!”

[@odhynth8404]

is his wife really named Tiffany?

[@parkerbond9400]

@@odhynth8404 let's not let facts get in the way of a humorous story!

[@zionj104]

@@odhynth8404 No one knows

[@rosepinkskyblue]

His wife is named Lady Grey.

[@ClarinoI]

No, his wife is named Jean. She's super.

[@aliertufekci1993]

"Tracking Tiffany Through Time" would be one hell of a series. Basically Dr. Who, but sassier.

[@surf124]

and valley girl american English instead of British english would be spoken

[@TheCimbrianBull]

@@surf124 "Like OMG! Totes adorbs."

[@corinneruoti3099]

I would watch this.

[@galaxygrl2381]

Being a British Tiffany who is a huge fan of Doctor Who, I would definitely get behind this idea! 😆

[@romanr.301]

With a pink faux fur coat, a martini in hand, pink shaded sunglasses, and a bedazzled pink cellphone. YUS.

[@harrytsang1501]

You can hear Grey slowly losing his sanity over the degrading confidence in his research

[@Aeropunk08]

Last couple Cortex episodes are making more sense now.

[@maiaemmett2399]

Thank you for finding the specific guy that's quite possibly responsible for the Tiffany Explosion

[@rjrmonkey]

Now I'm imagining some expectant parents in the 80s complaining that they can't find any preferred names in common, til they remember they both kinda liked Breakfast at Tiffany's.

[@lilolebob]

Well, that's the one thing they've got.

[@syphonwarlock7685]

*guitar solo*

[@879PC]

I love this entire comment chain

[@MrZuhahaha]

There is a fair to great chance that Grey has either a wife or a girlfriend named Tiffany and this is the birthday-anniversary gift. Which makes this more epic than you think.

[@angela_flute52689]

He's married, so I suspect that as well, or maybe a baby

[@HaI0gen]

Exactly what I was going to say. Or he's trying to impress a girl.

[@itsfirecrakr9419]

@@HaI0gen "i showed you my tiffany please respond"

[@2D_SVD]

He explained the choice in director's comments video

[@angela_flute52689]

@@2D_SVD Ah. I don't have access to that.

[@Tehinstrumentalist]

That zoom out on the Royal Albert hall is waay more detailed than it needed to be for the circumsance calling for it. Nice to see the production value soar.

[@quotoligest1769]

Right? That was my thought too. “These visuals all look amaaaazing!”

[@aturchomicz821]

Might as well be just be the Burgtheater from Virnna but uhhh yes

[@christopherbutler3739]

To be fair we have also seen that in the indian video.

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

I love that bit because it's like the official representation of the audience.

[@fazdoll]

I love how some of the little faces are lighting up and others are just confused.

[@samrevlej9331]

1:50 And her husband mentioned here is Bertrand du Guesclin, one of the most famous French commanders during the Hundred Years' War. He's one of the architect of France's rebound in the latter half of the 1300s, after Crécy and Tours, under King Charles V. By the time he died, France had gotten back most of its southwestern territories except for the Aquitanian coast. PS: It is pronounced more like "Teefehn".