The Hives vs. The Vines

The Hives vs. The Vines

[@sufferationist]

I'm pretty sure that "I know you want us to play more; but that's all the time, so you can turn off now." is the greatest mic-drop of all time

[@pirungosym2574]

but why the fuck they didn't play Hate to say i told You so?

[@burningjdm]

@@pirungosym2574 coz main offender was their single at the time

[@pirungosym2574]

@@burningjdm but can You imagine if they play "hate to say..." omg🤘🏻 it would be one of the best rock moments ever

[@jarrodcross1482]

It would of been! If the hives brand of frenitic but tepid garage rock didn't then get completely overwritten with perhaps the best f'u lighting reveal I've seen on an awards show! Then the vines made the hives look like silly euro [ ]'s in daft matching suits ... Plus it's simple! The hives were the support, the vines headlined!

[@junior4654junior]

@@jarrodcross1482 agreed. The Vines blew the Hives out of the water.

[@jamesbenford1992]

miss this 2000s garage rock style :(

[@popplug3384]

Last rock wave

[@daves7079]

@@popplug3384 So true

[@uwang7970]

+1

[@blankpool]

Its like people don't want to watch musicians exert this kind of energy in a live performance anymore.

[@gabe_s_videos]

​@Christopher Bingham It's not just changing tastes, IMO. Being in a rock band isn't economically feasible any more: buying and transporting gear, finding a place to rehearse, finding a venue to play, promotion... and that's all on top of finding other musicians of comparable talent who want to dedicate their time and effort to all of that with you. And thanks to the recession, all of this is WAY more expensive, meaning it's a full time job right off the bat; the reason niche rock music pop punk and emo can still exist is because those bands don't have to spend as much precious time trying to find out what kind of music they're playing or who their audience is. And all of this is ON TOP of changing tastes. On top of all of this, artists don't wait until it's economically feasible to create something, so if all they have is a synth, a laptop and a couple of mics in their bedroom, they're gonna make music with a synth, a laptop and a couple of mics in their bedroom. And if they can't find a gig to play it live (assuming they even have the skills to play it live; being an artist is not the same as being a performer), there's nothing to stop them from sharing it over the internet, cuz by god they made something, and they wanna show it off! And assuming you have easy access to all of the things that it take to be in a rock band, let alone a good one, you're gonna come off as a show-off elitist to the many, many, MANY people who don't. Long story somewhat shorter: it's not just trends. It's our god-awful economy (thanks Bush).

[@1ColdFuture]

The 2002 VMAs were the last one worth watching. R.I.P. mtv

[@armadill00]

The transition from the hives to the vines was brilliant

[@OtavioFesoares]

This performance of Get Free was incredible, but no one can compete against The Hives live. It's just unfair.

[@thebeetle1656]

I think I'm the only guy here that likes The Vines better

[@WalkDownTheStreets]

no, I'm with you.

[@TheLAHS277]

I love vines more too

[@ryanmartin3248]

The Vines was way better

[@CamInABand]

Yeah I really like The Vines

[@megacoscorria]

PELLE "I know you want us to play more, but that's all the time we have so you can turn off now!!!" (drops mic like a boss).KILLED IT !!!

[@IndyX]

+Jhon Ch And that's when 15 year old me fell in love with The Band

[@111whitepony111]

it's really cringey. their music is average at best.

[@rancid247]

For Your Consideration Incorrect, the hives are law and you are crime.

[@killgore5149]

And then all of sudden a bigger stage comes Into the screen, ABS then o start to listen a guitar riff that changes my life

[@rasvetx]

Mick Jagger vs Nirvana :v

[@sufferationist]

+Pili Peluso more like Mick Jagger vs Nirvana on the bad acid. No competition in terms of performance here; The Hives won this shit

[@mikeimmonen6619]

Some really, really bad acid...

[@rolandownahil9293]

sufferationist you obviously don't know nirvana. Go listen to tourretes and then come back here. Nirvana played live like the vines did here all the time. Kurt Cobain got bored of the songs and started singing them like a maniac.

[@Benito.Mussolini.Official]

c mamaniv:

[@ugh6043]

Basically

[@ladymadonna2525]

I remember watching this on MTV a million years ago like it was yesterday... my youth!

[@cakredi4132]

The Hives are Law. I am the Crime. So I turn myself in to Rock n' Roll.

[@lucifersam7946]

The Hives were obviously excellent, and The Vines did give out one of their best performances of "Get Free".

[@HablameSucio]

This video is all about the hives. they owned the stage not only here, everywhere. They still are one of the best live bands of the world.

[@bantondude]

Most definitely

[@bonicon1]

I watched this when it aired, thanks for posting. BEST LIVE PERFORMANCES EVER!!!!!!

[@PintsofGuinness]

hate me all you want but i do, and always have, love both bands.

[@davelesney7117]

+Pints of Guinness oh hell yea , I love em both too ! did ya know that the hives are rated the best show band , in the world !/// no shit !

[@weatheranddarkness]

+dave lesney A fair rating. I couldn't hear for the next day. That sucked, but the show was totally worth it

[@xmasx]

Me too

[@armadill00]

Likewise

[@GODisNonProphet]

If you've ever been in a band you'll know these guys probably love each other. Why compare them; they're both great.

[@ALO_YT4453]

Honestly, I liked both bands. While it's a competition I think both bands did well, although the hives are notoriously great at live performances so the vines had a lot to compete against.

[@gypdarin1458]

The Hives were the most developed and polished of all THE bands pre dating the Stripes, Strokes, and Vines. Their demo in 1994 and 1st album in 1997. A punk band those years.

[@rebecamialdea7162]

apparently the strokes were gonna be on this but chose not too because they felt they did a different Kind of music than these guys. Wise decision.

[@thytoe]

That's funny, The Vines and The Strokes are my two favourite bands, if they both played that would've been awesome. But they're right on the different style of music thing, plus The Vines don't sound too great here...

[@fede018]

No, it was a stupid decision. It would have perfectly capture a moment in time that they were part of.

[@gav240z]

I love all 3 Bands. The Strokes were arguably the most successful.

[@JazGalaxy]

If I had a band jump out of my imagination and come to life, it would be The Hives. They are so perfect and I love them so much.

[@KingBoner]

They are so animated, i love it

[@VictoriaMcIntyre1]

The Hives was the best concert I’ve ever seen. I actually met Howlin’ Pelle and his brother Nicholaus Arson and they were both very genuine and fun to talk to.

[@spacemaker8760]

I saw the Hives in Sweden before theyy were famous

[@horsemanpit8812]

I was there. At the time I was sharing an apartment in Donnybrook, Dublin with my business partner and his girlfriend Lorraine (who happened to be Bono’s niece). We were going to be in New York anyway for work and, because Lorraine’s uncle didn’t fancy going to the VMAs that year, he offered us his tickets. We picked them up from the Viacom offices in Manhattan and went on to have a very strange but fun evening at Radio City Music Hall!

[@GAD-mn5wn]

two great bands, two different bands, both AMAZINGLY crazy in concerts.

[@burningjdm]

I think these are some of the greatest performances both of these bands have ever done

[@CircusDirector]

vines get free is our classic, but hives must be the best band performing on stage

[@OVHEAD]

También the strokes son bastante buenos

[@Iempsom]

I'm glad to see that somebody really learned "rock'n roll". All these guys, Hives & Vines have my congratulations. And my thanks !

[@Sunprism]

this is when I got totally hooked on the Hives. I liked the music already, but Man I've never seen such a decisive battle of the bands, no contest. And the Vines did a great performance too, but it's basically The Hives vs your brother's high school talent show band

[@ThatsBoyz79]

i would love to see the hives in concert!!! they always look so energized and would get the crowd into it

[@SayOhYeah_]

Craig has nothing to do against a man who is called Howlin' Pelle

[@JoeSarasa]

they were like two hurracanes colliding

[@pedroventurini4885]

Wow. Mick Jagger still looks so young...

[@MedievalRichard]

I remember this when it aired, lol!

[@zackspiker_]

I’m a huge, maybe the biggest Hives fan; Craig Nicholls has Aspergers and made it through “Get Free” on a huge stage, and no one gives him props. I’m certainly a Pelle, but Craigs deserve a fuckton of respect.

[@RadicalAns2]

I never get to the part with The Vines. Pelle says turn it off and I do.

[@sufferationist]

I watched this live, and I can say with complete honesty that I did exactly as Howlin' Pelle said. Dude said, "I know you want us to play more, but that's all the time we have, so you can turn off now"-I agreed, and I complied with his request out of respect.

[@fede018]

You don't get punk rock

[@mattmcsherry761]

@@fede018 Neither do you, since The Vines are garage-rock/alt. rock.

[@fede018]

@@mattmcsherry761 I know, I said their *performance* was punk rock, what with the out of tune guitars, the screaming and the instrument smashing.

[@ArtificialJetleg]

both bands are great!! Seen both live, and both have great energy while performing, that's the most important!! Hell Yeah!

[@HowlinAdamJames]

"I know you want us to play more, but that's all the time we have so you can turn off now!" Howlin' Pelle Almqvist is the greatest frontman of all time.

[@MrLordstarboy]

The Strokes would have ruined either of these bands.

[@diviuwuw3321]

@@MrLordstarboy what do you mean?

[@redacted2275]

@@MrLordstarboy Yeah. Or The Hives would have crushed both of them. I remember watching this live on TV and I felt so sorry about The Vines, their attitude looked so staged. The Strokes were always mere "Fashion Rock".

[@MrLordstarboy]

@@redacted2275 Agree to disagree.

[@ricknieto64]

@@MrLordstarboy The Strokes were asked to be the center stage band in this MTV battle of the Bands with the Hives and Vines on either side but said they wanted no part of a "battle of the bands". I've seen The Hives and The Strokes both at the same small venue in Chicago (Metro) and although I prefer the Strokes musically from a strictly live performance standpoint The Hives win this one. They are amazing live. Strokes are great live too but Howling Pete is one of the best frontmen I've seen.

[@smcgrath14]

when you judge look from all aspects its a live performance so look at the song quality and presentaion my logical vote is the hives they sound amazing and their performance is high energy no smoke machine no smoking lights all them and thats why thier the greatest live band of thier time

[@eurikadude]

These are no joke some of the best live performances I’ve ever seen

[@eluzzyalegria]

2:51 listen to that riff !!! that's where the 'fight' is over

[@lfmr180]

Yeah!!! Craig's strato sounds amazing, and the chaotic ending was great.

[@MrSkateboardfreak123]

i think the vines are incredible here

[@thesound-chameleonman3580]

agree.

[@FernandoDANTE]

One of these bands had a brilliant career ahead of them.

[@curleyhurleyfosho]

The Hives take it. No contest really. More showmanship, great moves, sounded better and they totally killed it.

[@crowkid5553]

I know I am 13 years too late bit you should've watched the david letterman performance of get free, both of them are good bands though.

[@bruggmanbrandon5272]

Bubble gum pop will never beat uncontrolled Rock and roll

[@junior4654junior]

Fake Europop.

[@losotrosrock]

Mike jagger vs Kurt Kobain

[@trootzy]

Mick?

[@BlueMonk25]

Watched this year's ago when it first came out...safe to say the hives were one of the best performers ever!

[@gcord21]

I thought so too.

[@Gretsche87]

Awesome performance by both bands. Craig from the vines was killing me with that screaming lol and the guitar into the drummers leg...rofl. Good show.

[@thesound-chameleonman3580]

was he intentionally trying to attack Hamish? lol

[@rolandownahil9293]

Hives are like "were the best, the vines suck." And then Craig Nichols comes on, sings like a maniac and trashes the place like the true Aussie rocker he is.

[@Lyons194]

really? wow, that made my night!! the hives are easily one of my faves.

[@hazardbit]

Una gran epoca de excelentes bandas viva el rock!!! 🖤🖤🖤🖤

[@santiagomoralesgomez1401]

Tienes toda la razón hermano se extrañan esas hermosas épocas:)

[@dsysunder5091]

love so much the "we are number one" vibe from the hives. But I remember being so addicted on the Vines at the time. Such pretty and strong lyrics

[@eddiejoyner9024]

I’m so glad I saw this video. I just recently heard both of these songs recently on two completely separate occasions and have been obsessed with both of them. It’s so crazy to me that this happened

[@AwesomeGuy561]

That was so freaking intense! There may as well have been lightning buzzing off the stage! HIVES!!

[@markharding5851]

I totally agree 100%! "That was so freaking intense! There may as well have been lightning buzzing off the stage!" VINES!!

[@DoctorFiddlesticks]

I hate to break it to you, guys, but both The Hives and The Vines are awesome bands.

[@OsmosisNiko9420]

The best performances of the entire show! Both are great bands for me, but they can't really be compared, I think.

[@Gullett38]

That feedback at the start of Get Free is the best part of either perfmances

[@gonzaloperea8092]

It's like Rolling Stones vs Nirvana

[@mikogale]

Not fair.. The Hives had a lot smaller stage ;_;

[@user-pp5oh9ee1k]

Tbh I think it was to their benefit. The vines looked like they were just wasting the space where as the hives deffinetly didn’t, even going to the audience.

[@HowlinAdamJames]

The hives are an alternative punk band, and one of the greatest live bands on the face of the planet. Hives are law.

[@arcticscummie]

"I know you want us to play more but that's all the time we have so you can turn off now!" Haha. Gotta love Pelle. It's his 32nd birthday today by the way. Happy Birthday Pelle!

[@pattylewpattylew]

Happy belated 32nd birthday.

[@marcodd1]

i've seen them live twice, and it was really really great! if u ever have the chance to see them, don't hesitate! i just adore this great band

[@jameswalsh9263]

Which one dickhead?

[@friarbud]

That Hives performance can show you what 40 million dollars feels like.

[@richardtorres2079]

I love the vines, he channels Kurt cobain like a champ

[@fritzsche101]

The Vines first two albumbs rock!! but the Hives albums Are awesome aswell..Both are great at amping you up....Hives have held it together longer then the vines so my hats off to them!

[@vfalcon79]

the hives are so cool! they're true musicians.

[@mikeashante8065]

my all time favorite vma. was introduced to these bands this night. and fallon's opening stands the test of time.

[@KahawaiSashimi]

12 years after this they are STILL the greatest live band on the planet. No one can, or will ever match The Hives. Proper band!

[@bruggmanbrandon5272]

bubble gum pop at its best lol

[@archon3715]

One of the greatest mic drops of all time!

[@therevenge27]

The Hives went up there with no light show, no smoke machine, and with out their biggest song at the time (hate to say i told you so.), and still fucking destroyed them.

[@dandanger5637]

Are you fucking kidding? The vines were newcomers,especially for national TV. AND CRAIG HAD FUCKING ASPERGER SYNDROME.

[@jairchilo]

The Hives rocked in this gig

[@cakredi4132]

The greatest match between Sweden and Australia ever recorded.

[@lexikera83]

😍💔two fckng great albums back then *sigh*

[@toxicakudama]

Both great performances in their own right :D

[@eurikadude]

I can't even come up with an idiom to express how difficult it is to choose one of the two

[@GolduckSM6]

Both bands rocked, love hearing them both!

[@arlyzrock]

two great bandss yeah yeah lord,. craigg say thnxxxx

[@80sweregr8]

It just makes no sense to tear down either of these bands...their respective music and style makes it an event to watch either band. Saw the Hives as an opener a few years back (think it was for Maroon 5) at Staples Center in LA and they rocked it hard. Glad I was able to find music from each on youtube.

[@KingBoner]

Maroon 5 should be opening for The Hives

[@eddieortiz27]

I feel like It’s Always Sunny missed a golden opportunity to have The Vines on as McPoyles.

[@ChannelFamily18]

The Vines

[@anugrahalwan171]

all of the hives over expression. the vines more calm but still amazing!!

[@RedTideOfWolves]

The Hives are victors.

[@tylerdurden4392]

No way, comrade.

[@armadill00]

Tyler Durden I agree

[@lightsdarkness7714]

@@armadill00 Hives WIN

[@jacksonbeck5747]

for sure.

[@kyles9320]

Yes. They have definitely won.

[@connectpoliticditto]

Why in the world did the Vines agree to battle The Hives?! The Hives are one of the greatest live bands of all time. When you see the Vines come one the lead singer is trying so hard to amp up his boring song with his contrived screaming. Zero personality where The Hives just ooze personality and stage presence. Oh cool, look, the Vines start thrashing their equipment after the song. Wow, that's original. Maybe it's a tantrum cause they know they got destroyed by The Hives.

[@KCgrunge]

+connectpoliticditto no, just no

[@wasthptth243]

+fukk tyler yes just yes

[@saugat805]

+connectpoliticditto There is no comparisons both sounds coming from different worlds, no comparison! you are a fool! This isn't a pokemon battle it's music

[@brodyzakira3078]

Literally everything you said in incorrect judgement was forceful hatred made up of assumptions

[@Fanged.Fiend.Reactor]

Seriously that one thinks he's Mick Jagger lol and the other guy thinks he's Kurt Cobain!

[@DrMan-nh3bg]

Imagine seeing one kick-ass preformence after another in this kind of fashion. I'd be knocked out.

[@yakobhat]

you can never turn down the challenge to do your best jagger.

[@elemileTLDR]

13 years already. my god.

[@AugustusFloop]

elemileTLDR .... 13 years since this video was put on KZbin but this was from the 2000 or 2001 MTV VMAs, so basically 20 years ....I can’t believe it either

[@stevenl3265]

Fuck it I loved both bands

[@grungeisnotdead4641]

Seriously one of the best Get Frees ever

[@mggrana]

the hives are so superiors

[@Muddydoormat]

Recently discovered both of these bands and loved both and I'm just now finding this

[@CamandKendra]

vines vines vines

[@kimtokki7077]

Song : Vines > Hives Live : Vines

[@lxstnfxnd]

Vines but I like the Hives too.

[@lucifertinytimosman232]

They both kick ass in different ways. Hives were classic . Vines were fucking badass

[@monkeyjoshua15]

Vines all the way baby ;D

[@athenakay]

Mannn. They both snapped

[@seamusburke639]

The Hives played it like it was their show, which is how it should be done.

[@gcmbt53]

i think this is my favourite EVER music video

[@MattMonk]

The HIves won and it wasn't close.

[@redherronrecords]

Love me some Hives but The Vines fucking ruined them on this particular evening.

[@UltraCodex66]

+Dik Nasty just love em both and you're good to go

[@tylerdurden4392]

The Vines won, clearly :P

[@lightsdarkness7714]

@@redherronrecords all subjective.....but HIVES win easy

[@neweraguitarist18]

yea i so agree with u on that and it the beginning line where billie joe says "i'm not fuckign around" it reminds me of the Vines "outtathaway"

[@AIienware]

The hives are better in performance, the vines are better in screaming.

[@kurtwild9323]

The Hives..another level! And Pelle my man...crazy entertainer

[@wishbone_in_my_pants4206]

The Hives should've gotten the bigger stage

[@robob3586]

Even with the massive stage difference, the Hives still owned the show. Gotta love 'em.

[@rebelphi]

I remember this performance. I remember being so pumped to watch this, but the crowd was disappointing. They were all waiting for Britney Spears and Nelly.