The Hobbit CGI CIRCUS 🎪

[@BOSS.Productions]

SAURON DEFEATED* The Fight for Good- Lord of the Rings kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6m7c2aBo96do5Y

[@matodragonespor5000]

Let's remember that Sir Ian McKellen cried in the set because he had to film the scene of the dinner at Bilbo's house completely alone surrounded by green screens so they could add him later to the scene with CGI, unlike LOTR, where they actually builded the hobbit house and used perspective tricks to make Gandalf look taller than the hobbits.

[@chasformer3091]

That man deserves a hug

[@Cloudy_Games_99]

Apparently they did this because the original perspective tricks couldn’t be filmed in 3D. Sucks for McKellen though, wish they didn’t prioritize 3D for these movies… or do that awful 48 frames thing.

[@darkuser9992]

@@Cloudy_Games_99 another movie ruined by the 3d fad

[@billjim334]

Where’s the source of this story?

[@АрчиМур-ф7с]

@@Cloudy_Games_99 48 fps best

[@arnvonsalzburg5033]

Can't remember most of the scenes. Saw movies once. Forgot. Never returned.

[@matthewnodar7298]

I'm pretty sure most of the scenes from The Battle of the Five Armies were from the extended edition.

[@brandonfoley7519]

I Can top that, I've seen the whole trilogy at least six times I don't remember shit, think of how much screen time the dwarves get What's theee fucking names idk

[@spacefox4684]

Lol, don't bother if you don't care. As long as you still watch lotr

[@invoker7826]

Same here. Watched all three in theater but never returned since then.

[@manuelschlotterflosse1459]

I laughed so hard because of the scene with Bombur and the horn!

[@davidkiknadze9467]

And name Bombur 😀

[@manuelschlotterflosse1459]

@@davidkiknadze9467 I always wanted to name him Obelix, but Bombur is too good.

[@gladish6]

Just same 😂

[@tukatl]

I read this just as I saw it and honestly same it's bloody hilarious

[@billjim334]

How do you even remember his name? This movie blowed

[@madprophetus]

Can we just get Bombur plays the horn on a 10 hour loop?

[@fridolinmaier8806]

0:54 The elven CGI army dancing along the tune; pure brilliance!

[@Beowulf_93]

Even the faces are the same. Like in a videogame.

[@ゼロシン]

@@Beowulf_93 you mean shadow of mordor

[@elpanda470]

The scene where legolas runs up the falling rocks always makes me cringe so hard

[@T8USD]

I suppose Legolas could pull off something like that (being elf and being so light on feet), but, it's a complete overkill and it makes me cringe too

[@jecal2855]

Physics disagree, if legolas weighs enough to push a dwarfs head down when he jumps on them he cant push off of a rock

[@kevik9672]

@@jecal2855 Elves have this magic thing where they can walk atop feet of snow without sinking, but even so this seems a bit extreme.

[@gainsandglory6808]

As much as I agree about the cgi being overdone, you can’t tell me that that is better than him shield surfing or killing an oliphant and sliding down it’s trunk like he’s in some middle earth Heelys. They’ve always had cheesy scenes (Pippin asks “where are we going?” After Elrond announced the fellowship, Gimli son of Gloin hitting orcs in the groin, merry and pippin farting after eating the lembas bread, etc.) but they were always done in a way that was fun and added to a scene. In the hobbit, that stuff is the scene. Overdone for sure.

[@venox3811]

The books never said it was magic it only said he was so "nimble"

[@spyrosblt3320]

the first scene with Legolas perfectly represents how he entered this adaptation for no reason

[@jschieffer2956]

I love the scene at 3:20. I keep laughing everytime I see it. It is so funny that they depicted awful fighting into a beautiful chreographed song.😂😂

[@benderthepirate]

“CGI circus” is a magnificent term that should be used more often.

[@spider-spectre]

leaving the safety of a shielded pike line to "look cool" jumping over them only to be stuck with orcs to the front and friendly pikes and shields in your back.

[@spyrosblt3320]

thats how wood elves canonicaly fight tho. There was a wood elves army in the Battle of the Black Gate and they fought with the same style. According to Tolkien, they wear almost no armor

[@rohitSfitness]

Lol

[@berserkerpride]

@@spyrosblt3320 They canonically fight by leaping over dwarven shield walls? I wasn't aware they were such good buddies.

[@spyrosblt3320]

@@berserkerpride that was peter jacksons idea, and honestly its not crazy innacurate

[@myteatime2836]

Yup… dumbest move ever😭

[@sanchayansarkar2953]

This whole barrel chase is something that belongs in an amusement park and not in a movie.

[@EvanSol919]

"Why does it hurt so much?" "Because it wasn't real."

[@mtae5]

I felt embarrassed watching this, like I did something wrong. I felt ashamed.

[@richmondlandersenfells2238]

Don't be mate!

[@polapusta7467]

#metoo

[@urusledge]

Yeah because that weak flash when Gandalf destroyed the bridge wouldn't have benefited from some CGI.

[@15allrerebs]

It feels more like a video game to me honestly😅

[@Beowulf_93]

Of course . With this framerate

[@GholaTleilaxu]

@@Beowulf_93 It's not just the framerate, it's because of the moves and actions that the characters are doing, things we usually see in video games and cartoons. That's why the terms CIRCUS.

[@jimmymeridian5174]

Even video games try to portray more weight and impact in character movements

[@OlleForsberg]

Honestly, I see no real difference between these films and those weird, CGI heavy fairytale adaptions like Jack the Giant Slayer, Maleficent and The Huntsman. This trilogy reminds me more of those things than the LOTR trilogy.

[@gorgolyt]

Distressingly accurate.

[@bobplisskenNYLA]

Maleficent its way better than this shit

[@OLLG89]

My feelings exactly. Looked more like a sunday evening film you could watch with your significant other out of boredom rather than, well, and epic saga.

[@LordVader1094]

Oh my GOD you summed up the feelings of these movies so perfectly! I could always describe what was wrong with them, but never in so few words.

[@urusledge]

You're too much of a snob if you think this was truly terrible. Practical effects aren't as great as people like to pretend they are. CGI is a useful tool and can do things practical can't without looking just as bad, if not worse. There are plenty of scenes in the original trilogy that are so obviously layered you feel like you can actually peel a layer or two off. You can see them looking at stuff that isn't there. Even simple stuff like flames.

[@CoolSmoovie]

The fans to the Hobbit after they see The Rings of Powers: Perhaps I treated you too harshly

[@elrondriel]

lol no the Hobbit films can never be redeemed

[@nts_567]

@@elrondriel I like them

[@JamoonXerxesSauber]

I'm going to say it. I prefer Rings of Power. The CGI in Hobbit and how unnecessarily drawn out it was, disappointed me no end.

[@Ruhnum]

I don't think the CGI itself is the problem, but the bad performed CGI, overusing it for sake of special effects which looks very unrealistic, absurdly at all.

[@sinanokuc]

the horn bruhh

[@Abandoned_Bad_Dragon_Toy]

The bulk of The Hobbit was focused on experimental filming technologies: high frame rates and filming with 3D cameras. This had a major impact on not only how they filmed, but how they designed the film. Higher frame rates require different color usage, lighting, etc, as colors would appear different on camera. So clothing, sets, and even actor makeup had to be pushed to extremes to appear remotely “correct”. The higher frame rate also meant reduced motion blur, which requires higher fidelity imagery to look good. This meant that everything had to be filmed in sterile environments (studios) with a far more analytical hand than the more guerrilla filmmaking style of the previous films, and it becomes far easier to analyze CGI. Another key difference is creature design. In the Rings films, all creatures were limited to human facial proportions so that you have have actors in makeup. Jackson wanted to push away from this and not be limited to human proportions for non human characters. They tried to use animatronics for the goblins, but the result wasn’t good enough, so CGI was used instead. Azog is another example. Jackson wasn’t happy with the practical makeup, so the character was changed to a CGI model at the last minute. Generally speaking, I think the CGI of The Hobbit is largely far more impressive than in LotR. Gollum, especially. But the difference is that LotR’s use of CGI - while impressive - was FAR less than the Hobbit. Real sets, real actors in makeup, etc. Whereas every single shot of The Hobbit has some amount of CGI, so it’s uses look and feel more prevalent. As other people have mentioned, there was also a massive amount of internal issues with the movie; Del Torro dropping out (after legal issues kept pushing the film back), forcing Jackson to take over with no additional time for pre production, studio meddling, etc. The movies were screwed long before cameras started rolling. While a lot can be said about creative choices Jackson made, I think that the films are even watchable is a testament to how hard the team worked and how much they cared, even if cynics want to focus on the negatives.

[@gnomechild4459]

I know its you Peter... But you make some good points. Why do you think that Jackson chose to use 'experimental filming technologies' when the style of the original LotR films was so successful?

[@Abandoned_Bad_Dragon_Toy]

@@gnomechild4459 I think you just answered your question. Experimental. You won't know unless you try I guess

[@Abandoned_Bad_Dragon_Toy]

@@gnomechild4459 Oh and also the original style took some time and a lot of it was real and props or animatronics because of money as well.

[@averagecitizen821]

Great analysis, thanks 👍

[@Darth_Insidious]

So, just more evidence that LOTR could have only ever come out at the time it did, and been as good as it was.

[@juliosingapu8657]

You can’t blame the people who made the movie, it’s the studio because all that Warner Brothers want is money so they can compare themselves to Disney, they’ve been rivals for a long time. Originally Guillermo Del Toro was to direct it but due to creative differences he left the project and Warner Bros has to get Peter Jackson to direct but only have him 2 years to build the set, design costumes and find actors so that’s the reason why The Hobbit wasn’t as much of a success than Lord of the Rings

[@mangomariel]

Yeah, it seems he got waaaay more time and freedom for LOTR, while the hobbit was rushed. What I find weird tho is that LOTR was cheaper then the Hobbit. Avarage per movie lotr is 90m and avarage per movie Hobbit is 200m. But everything in lotr looks better, even the cgi.

[@xijinpingpong4426]

@@mangomariel Maybe the actors who were in the lotr and are now in the Hobbit got way more expensive.

[@mangomariel]

@@xijinpingpong4426 That is only gandalf and Legolas tho?

[@xijinpingpong4426]

@@mangomariel Ok, I thought Elrond and Galadriel were also played by their former actors, but I did not took a look at the cast, so I could be wrong. I think Christopher Lee was maybe already dead or to old when they filmed the Hobbit, so Saroman was most likely played by someone else. Edit: I did some research and it seems like rendering everything in 3D and 48 fps was one of the main reasons for the high costs.

[@eglib499]

​@@mangomariel Sadly, movies like the Lord of the Rings won't ever be made again. I really wish I could hug the producers that signed off on the Lord of the Rings. Peter Jackson was an indie horror movie director, so they just said fuck it and gave him 282 MILLION DOLLARS AND EIGHT YEARS! These days you'd be lucky to get 18 months to make a movie. How he managed to fit so many practical effects in there, with some grounding breaking tech and CG that STILL holds up, is a miracle of film-making. Let's be real here, there was no chance the Hobbit was going to be as good.

[@joe.black-mortem.angelos]

I am utterly speechless. This is one of the most magical KZbin compilations out there. The editing, the everything. It's beautiful. Also because I am a solid 5/10 drunk in the Lahey scale (probably)

[@charlesdavis7087]

Brilliant. Simply brilliant. It was like accidently meeting up with old friends in an entirely new place.

[@eggshan86]

Elves did the moonwalk in formation

[@abbymonsterfrog123]

These movies were so laughable it’s ridiculous. They’re nothing when compared to the masterpiece of LotR.

[@franchisefanatic4142]

Hobbit is way better

[@elbromasdewalmart1631]

@@franchisefanatic4142 lol

[@adronator]

@@franchisefanatic4142 That’s objectively wrong.

[@T8USD]

@@franchisefanatic4142 this should be considered as a felony

[@Batman-hc6mv]

The Hobbit book is 100x better then the actual movie.

[@joetheinfant8891]

With LOTR, Peter Jackson proved to be a masterful filmmaker. With The Hobbit, he’s but a conjuror of cheap tricks

[@liiporta7964]

I desagree. It wasn't Peter Jackson's fault. It would have been similiar to LOTR if Warner Bros Studios had let him done things his way.

[@joetheinfant8891]

@@liiporta7964 I somewhat disagree with your disagreement. Peter Jackson was getting overly reliant on CGI over the past decade, *and* he’s let over-sentimentality get in the way of good storytelling. Giving Jackson more time and resources may have allowed him to make the films more in his vision, but given how his track record has been lately, I’m not sure that translates to films on par with the LOTR trilogy

[@vjbd2757]

@@joetheinfant8891 Did Peter Jackson made the decision to make three movies? Did Peter Jackson made the decision to film the entire thing in just two years?

[@valentin7693]

@@vjbd2757 or include a love triangle between legolas, tauriel and kili?

[@vjbd2757]

@@valentin7693 Still a better love story than yours.

[@Drazorig2]

Hated the over saturated scenes and extremely heavy bloom light effects. Completely ruined the immersion of what the OG LOTR brought to the table.

[@jeremymullins1294]

the m4 edit is your friend.

[@rhithym]

Just because a character can canonically perform amazing feats, doesn't mean it's guaranteed to look good in a movie. Especially with cgi.

[@OCDlosp]

It's funny because Legolas is so light he doesnt even fall through snow and hes jumping on their heads hahahahahahaha

[@lk-ip1xs]

The CGI in the lord of the rings was just soooo much better, even tho it's the older movie... Everything looks "real" compared to the hobbit, where the cgi just looks fake

[@epiccatV.2]

Because most of the stuff wasn't cgi, orcs, men, elfs, dwarves were all real people so all zhe movement and actions look real,because they are real, only huge characters execpt for little gollum, were cgied, like trolls, nazguls, eagles, elephants...etc... On the other side hobbit was over cgied and looked more like a cartoon or a video game with the unnecessary scenes and in my opinion too comical and childish for a movie with that theme and expectations of their fans.

[@lk-ip1xs]

@@epiccatV.2 I was not talking about Orcs in LOTR... I know those were not CG, I think everyone knows that sherlock. But look at how beautyful Minas Tirith is done for example, and look at how cities are done in the hobbit... They just do not look real. Also, CG charcters in The Hobbit just look awful, except Gollum and Smaug. Look at how good the cave troll in the fellowship looks, or the Balrogh of Moria, or the fellbeasts, and now look at how the Goblins look in The Hobbit... They do look flat and not real

[@epiccatV.2]

@@lk-ip1xs wasn't arguing with you "sherlock" just pointing smth I thought u might not know by ur comment, otherwise we agree with hobbit being bad and lotr being the best. Fuck sake

[@beanman2206]

mainly because of course lotr blended practical and cgi really well here it is just cgi so of course it will look bad!! very few movies that are nearly completely cgi look terrible

[@np4231]

@@lk-ip1xs It’s obvious he wasn’t arguing with you, “Sherlock”.

[@mathiasvoorhees6232]

What cartoon is this?

[@mannyrodriguez771]

I think its garfield

[@brandonfoley7519]

Someone ate the lotr script and shit this out

[@lordraiden687]

Looney tunes

[@beanman2206]

its the lord of the rings one from the 70s lol

[@mathiasvoorhees6232]

@@beanman2206 Don't insult that cartoon, it was clearly better than this shit.

[@pyromaniac709]

Perfect choice of music😤

[@brandonfoley7519]

This entire trilogy rubs me the wrong way Waste of talent

[@alexmiller1800]

It’s so painful to watch when the practical effects in LoTR look so much better. It’s a shame they went with such a different route with these movies

[@radish550]

Bombur with the horn and the ending with the Rivendell’s dinner and Alfred is so funny. Thank you! I wish I could see Thorin dancing too there. However, I love the trilogy regardless. 🙂

[@freemangordon42]

1:46 kkkk.....😆This video is very creative..

[@myxion2671]

I wish they would do a remake

[@shapuyzat]

in fact i cant say this is hobbit book's movie, this is a master piece shit of a marvel universe movie with 3rd class CGI quality scenes.

[@steffanyschwartz7801]

@@shapuyzat it’s really a mix of stuff from unfinished tales and hobbit. The necromaner and Azog are bonuses that should still be in the movie but only if flashback. Smaug should have been main villain and Bolg would have been the villain at the end dying to Beorn. Filli and Killi go down defending Thorin and Dane kills Azog in the flashback

[@MondoMurderface]

There are several amazing recuts of it by fans. The base story is all there, bilbo is great and so are most of the scenes around him and the original story. It just need to be chopped out of the tumor that is the hobbit trilogy.

[@steffanyschwartz7801]

@@MondoMurderface get the orks back to the LOTR film non cgi. Use more practical effects, have Azog be dead and have Bolg be villain. Let Beorn be a horrifying beast, no Legolas, no need for love triangle, make dwarves look like Gimli, show us a scene or Sauron converting Sauroman (it’s a long list but that’s all it needs to be a good 1 film)

[@Сайтамен]

\there are fan edits.

[@crimsonsnowtv4143]

The hobbit is such a great story it’s a shame we’ll never see a faithful telling in Peter Jackson’s lotr universe because of these movies.

[@penianaguibau9835]

Pinny

[@fufu1405]

There are a bunch of really well received fan edits, which cut out a lot of cringe and unfaithful crap. You’d have to research which one is the best though. There are reddt threads which rate them

[@alanwatts8239]

Mark my words: the new series will be utter shit.

[@fufu1405]

@@alanwatts8239 I think everybody knows that buddy. Have you read the comments under the trailer?

[@alanwatts8239]

@@fufu1405 The trailer can't show the whole series, but i can already see how bad it's going to be.

[@lilbroomstick7914]

Speaking as someone only seem FOTR and watching two towers rn, it’s not that it’s bad… it’s toooo floaty… so floaty it’s bad

[@jakobpcoder]

one of the best videos i saw in a long time!

[@antonio_carvalho]

It looks like a cartoon 😂

[@drenord4816]

Honestly, I think the casting was the best part of the Hobbit trilogy. There wasn't a whole lot of people in that is went "uhg" with. "But what the about elf and dwarf love?", That story line shouldn't of happened so I'm not gonna fault the actors for the scripts they were given. Should of been two movie, and given Jackson more time to properly execute it.

[@thrandulfthegreen]

the series coulda been a lot better but im so adicted to the franchise ive watched every hobbit movie a hundred times (lotr more tho)

[@Pilot_Azog]

I watch them so many times to, I don’t care about what the critics say, I still enjoy the movies

[@maxAnonymousname]

I'm a big fan of middle earth, the story, the characters and I've looked at the map for hours. But the only time I saw the hobbit trilogy was at the cinema and never saw them since. It's just too much cringe. Can't even watch that first movie again when the dwarves do their idiotic dance / musical at bilbos home.

[@leoneljoannas]

@@maxAnonymousname The same happened to me; I tried last week, but I could not.

[@leoneljoannas]

@@maxAnonymousname And now, I cannot finish this video, either!

[@decayingvoid91]

@@leoneljoannas 🤣

[@ryderTheHedgehog2004]

WHY IS THERE SO MUCH CGI

[@technomage6736]

This was fantastic! 😆

[@SaveMeMoon]

Nicely cut together with the music, well done!

[@esmandagamer3441]

legolas does some next lvl shit everytime he fights

[@blenderguy3250]

3:27 this part tho

[@jimmymeridian5174]

I can't really put my finger on it, but everybody just looks so weightless. Somehow feels even faker than CGI should normally be.

[@boxxidraws7690]

A CG circus was literally all the Hobbit trilogy was!

[@infinitegod]

Well done, sir. This is the real entertainment.

[@walterwhite1]

Still better than the Amazon series 🤣

[@sl_ipper]

Perhaps I treated you too harshly

[@elrondriel]

You all look so ridiculous saying this but pls keep wasting your time hating and cooking meth

[@joeshar.]

The music and choreography without any words explain why Hobbit failed. Great edit.

[@bluepigeon3242]

its funny there are scenes in LOTR that i can picture 1 for 1 in my head the moment anyone mentions them, i cant remember any scenes from the hobbit

[@TherapeuticDriving]

The funniest thing I have seen period!

[@pyromaniac709]

Wish the movies were as beautiful as this was😚

[@Meikitamemo]

XD that music

[@Mognemind]

After reading the books and watching the movies I concluded that The Hobbit trilogy is a parody of the book. Scenes like these just confirm my opinion

[@DigitalLogos]

I still love the trilogy. This is brilliant.

[@pyromaniac709]

5:27 how I feel towards the hobbit

[@Euzuner41]

this is most funny video ı watch in this year

[@playdontpay]

Enjoyed this alot, thx :D

[@Shadowkey392]

Let’s be honest people; the over-the-top CG stuff is one of the best parts of these films.

[@elrondriel]

The best part are the credits

[@TheMrAufiderzein]

Are you talking about Supernatural? This shit should have ended 15 years ago

[@elrondriel]

@@TheMrAufiderzein ?? at least supernatural got a good ending even if late seasons were crap

[@TheMrAufiderzein]

@@elrondriel no, shit show shit ending

[@kevinsupreme_ph36yearsago59]

looks like a video game cutscene.

[@Zealwind]

Now that I've seen this, I can't unsee how ridicilous the acrobat is.

[@aS-df8zj]

Glorious

[@GlitzBog]

3:26 Took me a while to figure out that was on loop. lol

[@BOSS.Productions]

04:56 there was an extra twist after Legolas stabbed him in the head with this clip. Look at my Bolg vid and it wasn’t there. Guess it was too graphic 😵

[@jennie536m]

These vids should be getting 1 mil views THEY ARE AWESOME

[@egsiio]

I don't care about the movie, I just wanna staring at Lord Thranduil the hottie 😂

[@weiryy722]

whole point of a spear sheild wall is to protect whats behind it not to impale allies in fornt of it

[@bolivarcruz1]

This is either madness or brilliance

[@spyrosblt3320]

its remarkable how often those two traits cohincide

[@timmidietaubetaube2643]

made my day thank you :))

[@erikfrommeyer2606]

Extended version of bolt getting his head slammed into a pole please!

[@MatDazNah2005]

Smaug's CGI in the movies was the best than the other PS3 CGI.

[@yasinkarahasanoglu5546]

elven army dance with music so harmonic 😅 bombur and horn so funny 🤣

[@Hydroxoid]

This was a good game, I remember playing it when the Xbox 360 was first released

[@martinlatour9311]

everything feels so weightless

[@elrondriel]

There's a typo in the description, it should just say LOTR are the best films of all time

[@Colinkrauss1]

My god, the higher ups of this production must have been really really really into Rube Goldberg machines when they wrote this.

[@camilomonr666]

This is hilarious!!!! JAJAJAJA

[@daviddavidsonn3578]

when you spend all budget on marketing and 0 on CGI...

[@Perhapsawiseman]

What on earth was with the forehead scene??? How did their heads get stuck together?

[@eglib499]

Man, the CG of this film is already aging. And god... that bloom is atrocious. This film doesn't look like Jackon's work on the Lord of the Rings, it's a mutated version of it. The only good thing about the presentation of this film, is Smaug and the soundtrack (but that goes without saying).

[@HeartOfHallownest]

Dude you got an amazing thumbnail for this video

[@VitchAndVorty]

Elves are so elegant.

[@ludwiggraupe7571]

Why the Elfes jump over the Shields 😂it looks good but make no Sense. 🤔Moviebattles often makes no Sense 😂. But we love it 😁

[@TOTiDAU]

this is so funny XD

[@DEGROOT-if9ol]

sure it has all the cgi but better then sequal trilogy and movies today

[@novaa20095]

Spoiler for audiences, the laws of physics are ignored in this movie!

[@alexl6644]

Thank you for not including the buck naked dwarves. My mind has still not recovered.

[@ladouille5491]

le montage est ding 😂

[@ikoandreas5085]

The hobbit cgi isn’t really bad... there is just too much of it

[@spyrosblt3320]

and also the Bolg vs Tauriel and Legolas fight should have been a LITTLE less than 50 hours

[@Kevin-be8nj]

and also bad

[@char_lizard8440]

Kinda glad I only watched the first one 😆

[@G3NZmain]

...what?😂😂

[@Puma5]

Why wasn’t the dwarven fountain frolicking scene included? Ah never mind, this was hilarious and painful enough.

[@joeshar.]

Cgi (in a movie) = make up (of a woman) Usage of excess amount makes hilarious.

[@ConstantineAtByron]

Very nice work.

[@fragileparadox8658]

Seems like the choreographer really likes mario

[@JonOroMusic]

I only watched these movies because someone handed me a controller and said it was a game.