The Hogwarts Founders OTHER Secret Chambers | Harry Potter Theory

[@TK-Titanium]

I have always assumed that many of the oddities of Hogwarts corridors were created in a similar way to how Fred and George's Swamp was preserved. A student does a prank and a professor approves enough to let it stay. Over the years things just add up.

[@PhilBagels]

Yes! The moving stairs were probably a prank either by students or by Peeves. And it was so well done and funny, that they left it that way.

[@edsweet2858]

@@PhilBagels that or maybe for smaller things the student ended up doing something to help the school or maybe even died a heroic death so to honor them they either kept it there or re enchanted it the same way the student did as a kind of memorial

[@advanceringnewholder]

@@PhilBagels or, by peeves when he is a student

[@chazpuckovolleyball9178]

@@advanceringnewholder peeves was a poltergeist not a ghost. He was never a human

[@masterpython]

Could students blast tunnels through rock with thier wands?

[@charyaka]

I just imagined Ravenclaw Slytherin and Griffondor working on their rooms and Hufflepuff walking up like “I made the Kitchen dining hall and garden. What have you guys done?” And all the founders looking away because they forgot to help out.

[@arcanegamer2723]

i feel like one of them tried and she told them that she was still upset that they were putting only teaching certain students over everyone else so she decided to teach everyone that they did not

[@jackmack322]

Feels like a min raft server with your friends 😂

[@maxwell9211]

I think the room of requirement is actually hufflepuff’s by nature of it existing to help people. It doesn’t care what house you are or if you’re a wizard or a house elf, it just wants to assist.

[@mrunmaybehere2801]

exactly. It doesn't care if you are Draco or Harry, it will serve you all the same. It is also fair in discretion, It won't allow you entry if somebody else doesn't want you to.

[@deathsheir2035]

Except to gain access, you must know where it is, and how it works, which requires a level of intelligence that Ravenclaw herself would expect from her chosen students. And remember what Dumbledore said "Sometimes I feel we sort too soon," or something along those lines. And the sorting hat almost put Hermione into Ravenclaw, which means students are capable of fitting the criteria of multiple different houses. Ravenclaw also wouldn't care who uses the room, so long as said student was clever enough to find it, and clever enough to know how it works. Dumbledore's Army got lucky because of Dobby informing them where it was. Draco got lucky because of a snitch in Dumbledore's Army. Neville used the room to great effect because he had to go into hiding once the Carrows determined he would be better off dead. The fact Neville learned the ins and out of the room, shows he too has a cleverness about him we never would have expected during the first 4 books.

[@advanceringnewholder]

Ravenclaw's diadem Wan found in the room of requirements

[@michaelzautner4848]

@@deathsheir2035 To use it intentionally you need to know and figure all that out, but to use it you just need to need it. Likely thousands of people have found it by accident (judging by the size of the hiding area) and likely very few know how to use it intentionally. Dumbledore himself didn't figure it out but did use it by mistake. It should also be pointed out that the House Elves in the castle all know about and use it. I mention this not because House Elves are dumb, but they seem to have that connection with Hufflepuff with the kitchens and such. I agree fully with Maxwell that the chamber seems much more like a Hufflepuff thing than a Ravenclaw one. Ravenclaw's could be the room where the book and quill are.

[@marieangels6]

then what is Rowena's?

[@harshvardhan990]

My theory is that the Headmaster's Office was Gryffindor's office, which is why it is Gryffindor themed. And he lived longer than the other three founders so he effectively became the 'headmaster' by the end of his life, and his successors (and Board of Governer or its equivalent if it existed) decided to just turn Gryffindor's personal office into Headmaster's Office. Considering Ravenclaw is known to have been the first one to die, and Slytherin left the castle and so wouldn't have been at Hogwarts, that leaves only Gryffindor and Hufflepuff - it is reasonably possible to assume that Gryffindor lived the longest. It also explains why Gryffindor is a little more synonym with Hogwarts than others - he was the last of the Original Four and thus had the most opportunity to leave his personal mark on the castle.

[@draculgrozav]

This is a really nice mini theory, I quite like it because it makes sense and it's not 100%, so even if someone decides they dont, it doesn't matter.

[@johnhenley7349]

I always imagined that the headmaster's office changed decor based on the house of the headmaster, much like the end-of-term feast decor changes depending on who wins the house cup that year

[@brittanyphillipps8899]

@@johnhenley7349 then it would have been a lion and not a Griffin?

[@SimplyCosette]

I 100% agree

[@ThreadBomb]

As headmaster, Gryffindor had the opposite of an "open door policy".

[@kayleeforbes9878]

The staircases were designed by rowanna Ravenclaw for security and IT WORKED. During the second wizarding war it played a major part in the conflict inside of the castle. The students had already become proficient in moving through the stairs. The death eaters were not as good at getting up and down the stairs as they had not been on them in years. It saved several lives

[@abrahamayala7600]

I mean they could have just flown or aparated.

[@hamilton2861]

@@abrahamayala7600 can't Apparate in hogwarts "seriously didn't you read hogwarts a history" 😉 also in the books the only death eaters mentioned to be capable of flight without brooms were voldy and snape

[@johnflaherty9595]

@@hamilton2861 They could all levitate. Remember first year with the feathers? It might be more difficult--and dangerous--so they all used the stairs.

[@abrahamayala7600]

@@hamilton2861 you bring up a good point. But counter point, Draco clearly aparates at the battle of hogwarts, at least in the movie he does when he pulls Blaze and Goyle from the mob of students, and so does Voldemort and other death eaters after the school’s defenses were down. Also not sure if Voldy & Snape are the only ones with flight when on the 6th movie and 7th we see several death eaters flying in the dark cloud of smoke, like when they tear down that London bridge in the muggle world. 🧐

[@PauloVictor-tv7sp]

@@abrahamayala7600 You can't levitate yourself, that's how the spell was "discovered" actually, as a wizard tried to but only managed to levitate his clothes. And death eaters can't fly either, only snape. The dark cloud flying death eaters are only a movie thing.

[@novart9230]

For me Hogwarts is a castle meaning that it was build for defense : the moving staircases remind me of the inverse spirale staircases that we can see in most old european s: they were buid to be difficult to go up and easy to get down so the ennemy (who was going up) was in disavantage. They were also "mistakes" in this staircases like unstable steps that were traps for the ennemy while the habitants of the castle were used to it. The big number of secret passages is also common for old castles: to be able to run away or in this case, to be able to send children away to safety (exactly what's happen in the last book). Also, it's very unlikely that this castle was enterely buid in one time period by the four founders, it was probably expended and changed over time. That also something you see in real castles : doors that lead to a wall or a hole (because the room behing it has been changed) or weird configurations of rooms. If you compare hogwarts to a real medevial castle (and a castle is always build to be defended in the first place), a lot of things make sense ;)

[@Pikminiman]

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[@MerkhVision]

Those are really good points

[@LordHayabusa85]

That would make sense if the outside of the castle also reflected this idea, but Shadiversity made a video talking about how poorly designed the castle was in terms of how defensive it wasn’t on the outside.

[@ThreadBomb]

@@LordHayabusa85 It's possible the external appearance is a results of later modifications, in the same way that English manor houses became more fashionable and less defensible as the country became more peaceful.

[@HHLucifer666]

Possible slytherin school after he left and then attacked hogwarts in the past?

[@jenh9942]

I thought the moving staircases were made to confuse enemies in case Hogwarts was ever attacked. The students who had been studying there would know them well and probably where and when some of them moved while outsiders would be very confused and get lost easily.

[@TaylehAwondras]

That would make sense, only problem is that most attackers would probably be other British wizards amd they almost always went to Hogwarts so they probably still know how the stairs work. Maybe Hogwarts changes everything every year and the students just spend the first week of every year falling for the traps again.

[@quincyking010]

@@TaylehAwondras idk if the attackers they were worried about were wizards

[@Allison_B.]

@@quincyking010 but muggles can't see or reach Hogwarts...

[@Charlymander]

It's always an inside job anyways xD

[@katieholland4244]

Same

[@searchingformymocha]

As much as I love the theory of Helga's secret room, I think that the room of requirement was her creation and Rowena's secret room was actually the one where the quill of acceptance and the book of admittance are kept

[@alrightatgames]

That would make sense

[@jamesmayle3787]

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[@davidbakke9293]

@@jamesmayle3787 I’m just gonna say it; this is satire

[@jamesmayle3787]

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[@ynk1611]

@@jamesmayle3787 god is dead

[@mariolucario493]

Have you also noticed that the colors of all these rooms correspond to the house colors (at least in the movies)? The Chamber of Secrets is various shades of green, the Room of Requirement has blues and bronzes, the Great Hall is almost always given a yellowish hue, and the Headmaster's Office houses a phoenix, which is red and gold.

[@haleybaley43]

Wow I didn’t even realize that! That pretty much confirms the theory.

[@katherinegerdes2565]

🤯🤯🤯 I noticed it now. I am a failure of a Harry Potter Nerd because all of these OBVIOUS details slipped right on by me and I'm mad at my brain for being able to make the most random connections at the strangest times but it couldn't realize these.

[@novatryxward9372]

But the room of requirement was created by helga hufflepuff so why would it be blue

[@kayleybishop6497]

@@novatryxward9372 the theory is that rowena ravenclaw made it

[@shanestevenson2452]

The Phoenix only called the Headmaster's office home while Dumbledore was alive. At his death, Fawkes left Hogwarts and never returned nor did Fawkes live there before.

[@amcalycat93]

I've had the headcannon for a while that the Forbidden Forest didn't start that way, but Hufflepuff herself made the Forest and it went dark after her death and became the Forbidden Forest

[@WilyGryphon]

"It's a Griffin Door. Get it? You get it?" "Yes. Very clever, Godric. 100 points to Gryffindor."

[@Kakaragi]

Isn’t the statue a gargoyle though

[@MrApplelovin]

This reminds me of @chanwills0 where Dumbledore refuses to learn the names of the other 2 houses (HP and RC) bc Griffindor is the entrance to his office so he sees it every day

[@WilyGryphon]

@@Kakaragi It is in the books (and the video games, I believe). But I still thought it was funny.

[@maryjoyspohrer256]

LOL!

[@QueenCole89]

Yes, I believe in the book the statue is a gargoyle(s).

[@manguy01]

The Hufflepuff common room is the hardest to enter. My guess is if there is a secret Hufflepuff chamber, it is either yet to be found or it's like the room of requirement where it's found every now and again. The reason we never hear about it is that the Hufflepuffs are so good at keeping secrets.

[@cultellus915]

I swear all you need to do is to knock 5 times on a barrel to get in

[@SH19922x]

Shitpuffs

[@Bbrrooookkee]

Other than my man Hagrid haha. I still believe him to be in Hufflepuff

[@silverjohn6037]

The Hufflepuff second room isn't that secret. It's the kitchen. It's just that the rest of the students think they're too good to go there;).

[@Dawnsketch]

@@cultellus915In the rhythm of Helga Hufflepuff

[@averageperson3025]

I guess the room of requirement might more likely be the secret room of Helga Hufflepuff, since - no matter who you are (students from every house, house elves and even Filch) - you can use it and the room will provide you with whatever you need. So it doesn´t really depend on your talent (or your ability to perform magic at all, since Filch is a Squib). Everybody ist treated equally by the room of requirement, which in my eyes fits perfectly for Helga Hufflepuff!

[@derboeseVlysher]

I was thinking the exact same thing right when I started the video. RoR is the Hufflepuff room, can't change my mind. Maybe Ravenclaw did the staircases? It's definitely training your memory.

[@PleasantlyEmpathic9924]

💛🎗Hufflepuff Pride 🎗💛

[@im_living_dead]

I like that!

[@chris__pollack]

And you need to FIND it and hufflepuffs we know are particularly good FINDers

[@Deadpool-ri3rq]

@@derboeseVlysher I was thinking that when I started the video too

[@benjeffries2610]

Loving the idea of all the Hogwarts oddness being just the founders pranking each other and the students, but my friends and I have long held an alternative theory. Everything from the maze like nature of the castle, to the changing staircase, trick steps, etc… Was all a kooky way to prepare the castle to defend itself against invaders. Since the entire population of magical Britain would have spent their childhood learning to intuitively navigate these obstacles, they would have a HUGE home terf advantage while in the castle. The only reason this isn’t so much a factor in the actual Battle of Hogwarts in the books is because this is a civil war, everyone is a Hogwarts Alumni.

[@zokora3656]

it had a huge factor and impact tho. the deatheaters werent used to the stairs anymore so they often didnt know where they are or the students who were proficient with navigating the castle would just be able to run away from them pretty easily

[@Brinta3]

*a Hogwarts alumnus

[@HappyGothGal]

I think you mean turf*, terf applies to something else in the HP universe

[@benjeffries2610]

@@HappyGothGal hahaha 😆 Well spotted.

[@Civilian08]

Fun fact: In the books, the staircases in Harry Potter don't necessarily move, and in fact, decidedly don't work the way they're depicted in the movies. Harry remarks that some of the staircases take you to a different place on Friday, not that they're constantly moving. I interpreted this as some sort of strange dimensional wormhole, or maybe an abstract Lovecraft/SCP sort of thing where it just changes without anyone being able to see it changing. That would be hard to depict in the movies, so they settle on the moving staircases.

[@PhilBagels]

And I seem to remember that it was only the ones in certain places that move - like the ones in Gryffindor tower, leading up the the Gryffindor common room and dorms. But the stairs in other parts of the castle don't move at all. But I could be wrong.

[@alexray230]

Also, the moving staircases in the movies help demonstrate that Hogwarts is magical, its a good wow shot

[@Esterferreiradecastro]

Yeah I remember reading the books and being sad that the staircase didn’t move, like in tue movies, but everyone seems to think they did, I thought i was imagining things

[@Civilian08]

@@alexray230 I think a lot about how much life and charm the movies injected into the world of Harry Potter, especially in the first two books. That's not to say that books are dull, but they rely really heavily on stock imagery and concepts, only occasionally supplementing them with unique ideas. Just going off of the books, Hogwarts is just your ordinary run of the mill fantasy castle. It has armor, is lit with torches, it has paintings that watch you, a moat, a spooky forest, a dungeon. It's a castle. And the magic isn't crazy powerful, it's cheesy magic tricks, only it's real.

[@AndHePlaysDrums]

There’s a book I LOVE called The 4th Bear (worth the read I promise) where, there is a highway that, no matter how anyone tries, WILL ALWAYS put you off at the wrong exit. I like to think the moving staircases may work like this. Not often, but on occasion you’ll find that the same stairs you climbed yesterday, have taken you to a part of the castle you had no intention of going to….probably Nargles 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@hathawyn]

As a Hufflepuff, I really like the idea of the great hall being hers. It's warm and cozy and there's lots of food - AND we know that most of the food served at Hogwarts is made according to recipes perfected by Helga herself. It makes perfect sense. But I have also always thought that the Room of Requirement was her work as well. It doesn't discriminate, it will serve anyone who finds it. All you need to do is exactly find it... and if she wanted to give her own students a special nod, Hufflepuffs are indeed particularly good finders. The RR alliteration is a strong argument for Rowena, but I'll die saying that if it isn't Helga's, it SHOULD have been. To me, Rowena's works would be the staircases and especially the library. Maybe even a secret library accessible only through the restricted section somehow, in a way that only the students who were most avid for knowledge would find.

[@pavook]

Well, Helga was all for working with others and she doesn't discriminate, so why couldn't Helga *gasp* work on the Room with Rowena together? :)

[@ThreadBomb]

If you had a room of requirement, you wouldn't really need an industrial-scale kitchen, would you?

[@lynnthomas8457]

@@ThreadBomb Rules of magic, it cannot create from nothing. Even the room of requirement had to make a secret tunnel to Hogsmede to feed all the students that were in hiding there in book 7. So yeah, you'd need an industrial sized kitchen.

[@thewizardac4374]

@@pavook I was thinking the same thing

[@Phil-hf5we]

I don't think this is convincing as to why Helga Hufflepuff built the Room of Requirement. The qualities attributed to students of the houses are not unique to one's own house. Hermione, for example, is hyper-intelligent and yet she wasn't in Ravenclaw. Good-heartedness can apply to anyone, but not just to Hufflepuffs, although it is generally associated with all Hufflepuffs. So the intelligence of a person also doesn't equal the essence of the person that you necessarily have to put them in Ravenclaw. A Hufflepuff can be just as intelligent. If we're really referring to the characteristics of the houses, let's look at Ravenclaw. Ravenclaws are characterised by individuality and creativity, alongside their intelligence. The room adapts to the INDIVIDUAL circumstances of the person. The room itself is a very creative idea and its inner workings always adapt in creative ways to the needs of the person finding it. Here came your argument: it helps the finder in need. That is certainly a good argument for Hufflepuff. Still, I wonder, why would it be so difficult to find the room then? Wouldn't it then have to be easy and appear everywhere, not just in one particular place? Related to the argument: the Room of Requirement doesn't differentiate by person. After all, Hogwarts as a castle per se doesn't. The stairs that Rowena Ravenclaw created don't discriminate against anyone, they are just a challenge for everyone. The headmaster's office can also be entered by anyone who knows the password. So is the room itself. What was also very well depicted in the films: the finding of the relics of the four founders. The talking hat that revealed the Sword of Gryffindor is in the Headmaster's Office. The amulet of Salazar Slytherin was in a cave surrounded by water. Slytherin is known to represent the element of water. Helga Hufflepuff's chalice was hidden in the wizarding bank. The goblins run the bank and the cup itself is guarded by a dragon in the deepest dungeon. The Hufflepuffs' common room is also on one of the lower floors. The reference to animal beings is also obvious here. Hufflepuffs, in my opinion, also have a better understanding of animal beings than others. And finally the tiara. Found in the Room of Requirement. Helena had described the location in a riddle. It seemed as if Helena knew exactly how to discover the room. She was the daughter of Rowena. The colours in which the rooms were shown also show the relation to the founders. The headmaster's office appears in gold and red. The Chamber of Secrets in shades of silver and green. The Great Hall appears very warm and inviting, very cozy. Themed in the colours of Hufflepuff. And finally, the Room of Requirement. When we as viewers first saw the room, it seemed flooded with light in rather cold tones (blue and bronze). Although these cinematic appearences are not really a strong argument, we have a suitable relation here purely in terms of film. Finally, perhaps the obvious: The abbreviation of this room is RoR, which could also be an abbreviation for Rowena Ravenclaw. I wouldn't want to deny the argument of helping in need, which is why I think the room itself was a project of both women although I would not consider Rowena to be a cold-hearted person who is incapable of helping people in need. Nevertheless, it would certainly be satisfying for Hufflepuffs to have Helga Hufflepuff on board here. It caters to individual needs and helps you in need. However, I would attribute the idea of the room to Rowena because the arguments per se are more in her favour.

[@0oFlicko0]

My personal theory is that Slytherin initially used the chamber as an experimental potions lab and it was Godric who named it Chamber of Secrets, because Slytherin never spoke of his potion experiments. An inside joke between him, Helga and Rowena. For Rowenas secret room, I reckon if you pull out the most boringly titled book in the restricted section (so boring not even Hermione would pick it up), you'll open the passage to Rowenas secret library. The library would include other self-writing books like The List of Rulebreaker. A book that records name, time, location of any rule to be broken. A book that ranks the top rule breakers, with the marauders, the Weasley twins and the trio in the top 10 of all time rule breakers.

[@RuyLopezTheSicilian]

Four marauders, two twins, three in the trio, that's nine. Who completes the list? 😅

[@Defcon5gamingn1]

@@RuyLopezTheSicilian Tom Riddle

[@RuyLopezTheSicilian]

@@Defcon5gamingn1 I was gonna say that but his antics were more of dabbling in Dark magic, and I think he wasn't caught breaking any rules around Dark magic or else it would have tainted his reputation as an elite student to rival Dumbledore

[@0oFlicko0]

@@RuyLopezTheSicilian I was more thinking of it being the three groups in the top 10. The members of each group would appear again on the list for their individual "achievements".

[@miriamrosemary9110]

I like this theory :)

[@EmmaDavisWilliams]

Did anyone else think he was going to say that HoneyDukes was Helga Hufflepuff's secret room? I mean, it's technically connected to the castle through the secret passageway and it's food-related - it could be the reason the passage exists at all. And the reasoning that she wanted to bring people together could still stand. HoneyDukes was a place for anyone to go get sweet treats, and is there anything better to bond over than sweet treats?

[@supritatalnikar6744]

Yes, I did!!

[@EvangelineIsMe]

Me! I did!

[@alzhanvoid]

Was HoneyDukes THAT old? A candy shop that goes back all the way to the _Medieval_ era?

[@EmmaDavisWilliams]

@@alzhanvoid Hmm that's a good point! I'm not sure when HoneyDukes was founded.

[@129das]

@@alzhanvoid could been a bakery, It was likely even owned by someone Helga knew too.

[@thedragonwarrior5861]

As Average Person stated, the Room of Requirement makes complete sense as being made by Helga Hufflepuff. It is a room that will always help you, no matter the need or who you are. It exists to be helpful, a Hufflepuff trait if I ever heard of one. It is also not easy to find, meaning you have to work hard to find it, another trait favored by my house. I also like E-Train Express's idea that the tunnel on the third floor, the one with the Stone, is the work of Griffindor

[@PhilBagels]

If it was made by Helga Hufflepuff, it would have been called the Hall of Helpfulness, as opposed to the Room of Requirement by Rowena Ravenclaw.

[@miriamrosemary9110]

@@PhilBagels Clever argument :)

[@sheerdumbluck]

Hey small thing. Hufflepuffs are not good finders. That is strictly from A Very Potter Musical. I love Starkid and Harry Potter but yea… sorry you had to FIND out this way.

[@haylei2804]

Nice. People are so mean about Rowling when she's the one who provided the details to uncover more.

[@alzhanvoid]

The Hufflepuff common room has the lousiest security of them all. It requires no password, just correct rhythm on one of the barrels. It is also not as well hidden as the Slytherin common room (disguised as a regular wall AND having a password, not to mention an actual guardian, the squid. The most secure of all the rooms, smart guy Salazar). The Gryffindor common room, whilst not particularly hidden, atleast has a password, and the Ravenclaw one, whilst not having a traditional code word, only having a riddle that anyone smart enough can solve, only gives you 1 chance to do it, something that all the other ones lack. You could technically just spout random words that vaguely sound like the house would value (ie Pureblood) or knock on the barrels until you get the right one. So yeah, Hufflepuff is NOT known for security, atleast Helga obviously wasn't.

[@mallorys.8066]

I wish Rowling would write a prequel that included the founders. It would be so interesting.

[@captainbirch2.079]

Ngl that could be fire

[@mikelopez2314]

Hogwarts a history isn’t it

[@sag3studiosx.]

@@mikelopez2314 It’s all in Hogwarts, A History

[@kmig42]

Gosh, yes

[@geekymaddy1597]

I would've thought the ROR would be hufflepuffs, since its like very "giving" and helps anyone who needs it.

[@zrc1514]

And Hufflepuffs are good at finding things

[@randomperson2777]

Almost the sole reason as to why I really love this theory is the idea of Gryffindor putting that much effort into the “griffin door” pun. I mean, sure, it probably wouldn’t have taken very long for a wizard that accomplished to create the room and the physical rendition of that pun, but you know what? To me, it’s the thought that counts.

[@DerNiko]

I want to see the Hogwarts teachers' reply to that excuse. Teacher: Why are you late? Student: Because there's 142 moving staircases in this f-ing castle!! Teacher: ... fair enough.

[@zendzend5107]

Mcgonicle: then would you like me to turn you into a bird to better navigate the stairs, or a monkey perhaps. Snape: Then perhaps it might be best to give you a potion that will help you float, just so long as you can get down on your own? Filtch: bah, I have to deal with it every day and night and you don't hear me complain. Now get to class you little brats, I'll be watching...

[@theherospade5694]

@@zendzend5107 I can hear this in my head thanks.

[@littlemisstaniamatakupan3193]

@@zendzend5107 Umbridge: DETENTION prof. Sinistra (astrology) : we only have class at night! Now shoo! Lupin: ah. It's ok. Just try to come earlier next time. Flitwick: *kindly offers to teach you a spell that would help* Hagrid: ha! You are just in time for feeding time *ignores you are late* Prof. Burbage (muggle studies): absolutely fine! Muggles are late all the time!

[@xy-ow7hw]

Why are the other students already here and you´re the only one being late, POTTER?

[@aaronalkor]

@@littlemisstaniamatakupan3193 Hagrid is just the Chiron of the Harry Potter Universe

[@brentosaurusw.w3200]

What if each founders hidden room wasn’t supposed to be found because it was also their personally office and living space. So each headmaster had a place where they couldn’t be bothered by the other students unless they wanted to be found

[@ETREDROOMREVIEWS]

Gryffindor's secret room I feel is where the sorcerers stone was held, for 2 reasons. First: In the books, the headmasters office has a gargoyle not a griffin. Second, I feel that it wasn't wholly Dumbledore's idea for the challenges in the many chambers leading up to it. Gryffindor's could find it and would be given a test of courage to go through challenges similar in the first book. At the end, would actually be... still... the mirror of erised. Why? Because after all the trials and finally seeing their deepest desire before them. I thing G-man would then appear to the student and ask what they see and explain (similar to how Dumbledore explained to Harry) what the mirror does, allowing to see everything they could want, but to understand that they will likely never achieve it. You have to have enough courage to deal with that fact.

[@thedragonwarrior5861]

Makes sense to me

[@lukeroberson2115]

I actually like this idea more. Good thought!

[@justinharness7542]

It's already known that the Headmaster's office was created by Gryffindor.

[@Neuromant1991]

A short comment that makes way more sense to me than the whole video. I agree.

[@grisgrame15]

Just to the point with the gargoyle. It depends if she really meant the monstertype or the architecture type. Last one can be nearly everything in form. In gothic its mostly a batlike monster but there are also depictions of goats, dragons and so on. Normally they were used for letting water out but often the non functional parts are also called that way.

[@RebekahLeiplein]

I love that you own enough prop replicas to be able to hold up practically any item you are discussing.

[@marjonsimmelink6558]

Aww... Helga's secret room being the great hall makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. That is now head canon. That makes me feel proud to be a regular old hufflepuff.

[@barbiquearea]

I'm pretty sure she was also responsible for the kitchens and Room of Requirements. Thus making her the coolest out of the four founders.

[@phtuber5469]

Same here bro. Hufflepuff is the best house.

[@BlindJedi]

🦡

[@riluna3695]

@@phtuber5469 As a Ravenclaw, I completely agree that Hufflepuff is the best house. My values and skills may align more with Rowena than Helga, but there's no denying that unconditional love and acceptance of others is just about the most noble and beautiful trait there is. Helga Hufflepuff sounds like an absolute gem of a person, and her priorities were perfectly in order.

[@PhilBagels]

Slytherin - Secrets Hufflepuff - Hall Ravenclaw - Requirement Griffindor - uh, ... They love their alliteration.

[@littlepixy2]

I like to think the tunnel to Honeydukes was just Dumbledore's self-indulgence ☺ he does love his sweets

[@sleepy-emerald]

I was waiting for someone to point out that Stone and Chamber are basically the same. Finally, *someone* says it!

[@quincyking010]

I mean the arcs are basically the same for most the books except poa no voldy there

[@edsweet2858]

Yeah and when I was writing an essay about The Philosophers Stone when I was in like 7th grade I spent most of it calling it the chamber by accident

[@DustyStarrs]

I assumed that, as well as to pull pranks and promote curiosity, the staircases move because there are so many rooms and not enough spots to put stairs so that people could reach each room from any given spot. But I love the thought of Salazar and Godric giggling when they came up with this idea, especially the spontaneously vanishing stairs!

[@MrSasukeSusanoo]

Definitely a light hearted jok-WHOOPS A STUDENT FELL TO HIS DEATH....like I said definitely a light hearted joke.

[@DustyStarrs]

@@MrSasukeSusanoooh yes all in good fun

[@barbiquearea]

I think its also possible that Rowena built the library since she is the most knowledge oriented out of the four and would have wanted to ensure that all books of the school had a place where they could be properly stored and catalogued for the students to use.

[@DD_awsome]

And Slytherin was in charge of creating all the bathrooms. In the end, his secret room was only the sewers all along... And the reason he lock it?? He just didn't want the students to fall in it. In the end he was the good guy and we just miss-judge him. That's my new head-canon now

[@tappajaav]

@@DD_awsome CANON. CANNON is a projectile weapon. CANON is what follows the widely agreed lore

[@bennyboiart7781]

@@tappajaav and head *CANNON* is a weapon used to project one’s own thoughts and theories onto the proper, canonical lore. 🙃

[@tappajaav]

@@bennyboiart7781 That's something you just made up. I am not amused.

[@vermontvampyre]

@@tappajaav So you take pride in being an insufferable know-it-all?

[@nessimrichard9887]

Crazy theory: the room of requirement was not built by any of the founder, but actually FOUND. The whole castle was then built around it using the same magic as the room of requirement. This would explain how weird and adaptative the architecture is: moving staircase, additional room to hide the philosopher stone, secret passage to a candy shop, etc... Hogwart is a huge and more stable version of the room of requirement! The secret passage to honeyduke really reminds me of the passage the room of requirement create to get food from Abelforth in the deathly hallow. It appears because students were looking for a way to get free candies.

[@mogambochamchokaabaap7262]

Not possible brother. There will be not something like someone built a random magical room in a Island. Room was actually built. Therefore they would know how to access it.

[@gemink7939]

Ah perhaps the Room of Requirement is like a poltergeist room? you know, like how peeves is student's mischief, perhaps the RoR is well, a manifestation people's needs ata the time?

[@MegaLokopo]

If I was a Hogwarts student or teacher who discovered how to make a secret tunnel, a sweats shop is the first place I would dig to.

[@thebuddercweeper]

There’s a big difference between a sweet shop and a sweat shop

[@MegaLokopo]

@@thebuddercweeper You should know trying to give people heart attacks is rude.

[@writteninthestars02]

I really think the Room of Requirement is more of a Hufflepuff thing. I like the idea of a room that serves anyone who needs it, no matter who you are.

[@zedbrassica8630]

Before watching: Ive always thought the moving stairs are a puzzle and one of the portraits is a door to ravenclaws chambers, or a hidden floor landing, id like to think you can override the random nature of the stairs and walk straight there given the right timings Hufflepuff prob did room of reqs, the room presents itself when you need it, ill give everything i have to someone who needs it seems hufflepuffy No idea Grif unless the headmasters office counts, and dumbledoor only is using a small fragment of the room

[@harryjohnson1633]

Love the stair puzzle idea, new headcannon

[@rachelhansen2417]

Love this idea! Slytherin made a room discoverable only by pure bloods, raven claw only through cleverness, and Hufflepuff by anyone in need! That actually makes me think there must be another room by Gryffindor designed for only the brave. Perhaps something hidden in the forbidden forest?

[@blueeyestuber8673]

MY CABBAGES!!

[@darchangel2136]

As a Hufflepuff, I must agree about the RoR

[@ozyssah]

man whenever you get into these secrets of hogwarts, think about the mauraders and all they did, our troublemakers and what they did, the possibilities of so many cool stories that happened within hogwarts is infinite and so fun to think about

[@Joel96Pettersson]

The griffin statue is only in the movies, in the books its a gargoyle but i can't say for the doorknocker though

[@lukeroberson2115]

It's specified as a griffin doorknocker in the books too if my memory serves.

[@isaac_aren]

A gargoyle technically can be in the shape of a griffin since a gargoyle is a type of statue. Thought _technically_ it would be a "grotesque" if there was no water coming from the mouth

[@matthias4]

It's chapter eleven in the chamber of secrets after Justin Finch-Fletchley and Nearly Headless Nick met the Basilisk: „They [Harry& Prof. McGonagall] marched in silence around a corner and she stopped before a large and extremely ugly stone gargoyle. [...] Harry could see a gleaming oak door ahead, with a brass knocker in the form of a griffon.“

[@icetooth2269]

I might be more remembering, but in the books wasn't there a door knocker for every house? Four different for knockers that made different sounds

[@thebuddercweeper]

@@icetooth2269 the only two door knockers I know of are the griffin one to the headmaster’s office and the one to Ravenclaw tower

[@phosphoros60]

I love the idea that there was a fifth person wanting to be part of the Founders, but their name was something like Tony Lacastramon, and the others were like "Ooooh, that's a bit awkward, but... it kinda has to be an alliteration, sorry."

[@annaschulmeyer9356]

I've heard some really interesting theories for these rooms over the years, but I mostly agree with y'all. I defiantly think that the chamber of secrets was known to all the founders at one point, but a good point someone once brought up is that its a really big room protected by a door that can only be opened by a password that you can only say if you know Parseltounge (a magical language). This room could be used as a last resort if the muggles found the castle (we're talking 11th century England, witches were burned at the stake) it could probably house all the students and staff comfortably and muggles could not get into it (this would tie into Slytherin's known dislike of all non-magical humans). Regarding the room of requirement, I like the theory that Ravenclaw helped with it, but I always thought it was more of a Hufflepuff thing. This is a room that was built to help you, it was designed to give you what you needed. You paced in front repeating "I need a room...", that desire to help all who come across this weirdly placed room (trolls) could get the help they needed if they truly needed help reminds me of the Hufflepuff common room (funny nocking sequence on barrels of all things). But I do think Ravenclaw helped with the runes and making the room work. I always thought of it as a group project between the two. Lastly, Gryffindor, I'm not sure about the head office. I like y'alls train of thought but wasn't the statue a gargoyle in the books? It was only in the movies that it was changed to a griffin. I always thought that that weird spot where the stone was hidden could be Gryffindors, it's an obstacle course, he would totally design a training course for his students. What other sort of rooms requires a 20 ish foot drop to get into them?

[@nynkeandreae7008]

The tests leading up to the room were the stone was hidden were created by the teachers when the Dumbledore was asked to gard the stone. So those challenges were not there in the time of the founders

[@mauritsponnette]

The Philosopher's Stone room might have been a washing room, with the hatch-drop being the place you drop the laundry in 😅

[@zokora3656]

the room where the stone was is for me ravenclaws secret room if it is one. While the trials there were made by the current teachers at the time, all of the where puzzles or riddles (except for the troll, but a possesed quirrel wouldnt care about honoring ravenclaws work). So perhaps the room contained puzzles and riddles for the students before that so they honored ravenclaw by making the trials puzzles and riddles

[@Phil-hf5we]

I don't think this is convincing as to why Helga Hufflepuff built the Room of Requirement. The qualities attributed to students of the houses are not unique to one's own house. Hermione, for example, is hyper-intelligent and yet she wasn't in Ravenclaw. Good-heartedness can apply to anyone, but not just to Hufflepuffs, although it is generally associated with all Hufflepuffs. So the intelligence of a person also doesn't equal the essence of the person that you necessarily have to put them in Ravenclaw. A Hufflepuff can be just as intelligent. If we're really referring to the characteristics of the houses, let's look at Ravenclaw. Ravenclaws are characterised by individuality and creativity, alongside their intelligence. The room adapts to the INDIVIDUAL circumstances of the person. The room itself is a very creative idea and its inner workings always adapt in creative ways to the needs of the person finding it. Here came your argument: it helps the finder in need. That is certainly a good argument for Hufflepuff. Still, I wonder, why would it be so difficult to find the room then? Wouldn't it then have to be easy and appear everywhere, not just in one particular place? Related to the argument: the Room of Requirement doesn't differentiate by person. After all, Hogwarts as a castle per se doesn't. The stairs that Rowena Ravenclaw created don't discriminate against anyone, they are just a challenge for everyone. The headmaster's office can also be entered by anyone who knows the password. So is the room itself. What was also very well depicted in the films: the finding of the relics of the four founders. The talking hat that revealed the Sword of Gryffindor is in the Headmaster's Office. The amulet of Salazar Slytherin was in a cave surrounded by water. Slytherin is known to represent the element of water. Helga Hufflepuff's chalice was hidden in the wizarding bank. The goblins run the bank and the cup itself is guarded by a dragon in the deepest dungeon. The Hufflepuffs' common room is also on one of the lower floors. The reference to animal beings is also obvious here. Hufflepuffs, in my opinion, also have a better understanding of animal beings than others. And finally the tiara. Found in the Room of Requirement. Helena had described the location in a riddle. It seemed as if Helena knew exactly how to discover the room. She was the daughter of Rowena. The colours in which the rooms were shown also show the relation to the founders. The headmaster's office appears in gold and red. The Chamber of Secrets in shades of silver and green. The Great Hall appears very warm and inviting, very cozy. Themed in the colours of Hufflepuff. And finally, the Room of Requirement. When we as viewers first saw the room, it seemed flooded with light in rather cold tones (blue and bronze). Although these cinematic appearences are not really a strong argument, we have a suitable relation here purely in terms of film. Finally, perhaps the obvious: The abbreviation of this room is RoR, which could also be an abbreviation for Rowena Ravenclaw. I wouldn't want to deny the argument of helping in need, which is why I think the room itself was a project of both women although I would not consider Rowena to be a cold-hearted person who is incapable of helping people in need. Nevertheless, it would certainly be satisfying for Hufflepuffs to have Helga Hufflepuff on board here. It caters to individual needs and helps you in need. However, I would attribute the idea of the room to Rowena because the arguments per se are more in her favour.

[@surferdude4487]

I'm blind, so I can't tell you what the movies used. But in the books, the statue guarding the Headmaster's office was a gargoyle.

[@zachgreenfield3663]

I wouldn't be surprised if Helga Hufflepuffs room was just the kitchens, as all of the founders rooms somewhat correspond to there relics. -Headmasters Office - Had Gryffindors Sword displayed there for most of Harry's time at Hogwarts (next to the sorting hat another relic of Godric Gryffindor) -Kitchens - Full of dining utensils, and Hufflepuffs cup was rumoured to be one of the first utensils used at Hogwarts -Room Of Requirement - The final location of Rowena Ravenclaws lost diadem (even Helena Ravenclaw gives a riddle on how it works -but thats technically not cannon) -Chamber Of Secrets - Slytherins Locket allegedly gave information on how to open the Chamber of Secrets, also both the chamber & locket required parseltongue to open

[@Almandeen]

Nice point! But the cup would also work with the great hall, as it would also be used there 😊

[@loynco9299]

Helena didn't know that the diadem was on the RoR

[@vyndra46]

Also it’s kind of interesting that Voldemort hid the diadem in ravenclaws secret room…

[@09rayhill]

And that he wanted to make the sword a horcrux which resides in the headmaster’s office and I think you would find a cup in the Great Hall/kitchen area….

[@dylanlabon9667]

The more people talk about Helga Hufflepuff, the more I love her character. She just seems like the kind of person everyone would want to be around, like a cool mom.

[@zokora3656]

cool mom really? for me i always imagined her like molly weasley. not a cool mom but a loving one that takes care of everyone who need it

[@dannybonsai7102]

@@zokora3656 I agree, but also a cool mom because of the salute with the golden cup in her portrait. And selecting the Badger as mascot, it's not just fuzzy and cute, it has a vicious side that can take down wolves if provoked.

[@ironbjorngaming3676]

New Theory: What if Hogwarts and it's moving staircases etc kept messing with Harry because of the curse that Voldy put on the DAtDA position, so the castle it's self was fighting back against the horcrux inside Harry?

[@josephcrews6423]

interesting and amusing at the same time

[@RedDoom33]

Next on SCB:

[@schnuffler]

Then why would the they affect Neville the most

[@dylantd9189]

The curse was on the position, not those wanting to apply....?

[@mogambochamchokaabaap7262]

@@schnuffler Neville was affected by his Family's conditions regarding his parents' health and Grand mother and all other relatives. He was dumber and timid in earlier movies but the Friends gave him power. Showing the strength of emotion in HP universe.

[@krystofdayne]

I like to think Hufflepuff's secret chamber was the Prefect's bathroom. I think it would be pretty in character for her not to create something grand and self-important but just, you know, a place to take extremely comfortable baths 😌

[@Azrael4Real]

Only problem i have is the fidelius charm on the locket. Voldemort opened the chamber before he met Morfin gaunt. He was 16 when he opened the chamber, his 6th year. And in the summer between 6th and 7th year he met the gaunts and killed his father and turned the ring in a horcrux. He got the locket after graduation by killing hebzibath smith while working for borkin&burks. So fidelius charm protecting the info about the entrance of th CoS cant be possible. But parseltongue to open and get the info i consider canon.

[@shreyasjape1912]

Yes Because if it was really a fidelius charm, and voldy inside Harry makes Harry able to see the place, still no reason for Ron and Lockhart to see it. They should not have been able to enter the fidelius charm.

[@Devlinator61116]

@@shreyasjape1912 Assuming Slytherin was deceased (a different SCB theory states that he might be petrified), whomever he told of the secret would become the secret keeper(s) upon his death, which, via the locket, would include Voldemort. A secret keeper may let others in on the secret. Thus Tom Riddle revealed the secret to Ginny, and Harry, being part Tom Riddle, revealed the secret to Ron and Lockhart. The real catch, than, is how did Ron reveal the secret to Hermione?

[@shreyasjape1912]

@@Devlinator61116 Yes you are right regarding revealing of the secret by secret keepers. However as the original comment questions that Voldemort got the Locket after meeting Hepzibah Smith but had opened the Chamber before that hence I think that Locket being the Secret Keeper won't make sense. Also you are right that if as per some theory Slytherin is alive, then only the Locket can reveal the Secret. So Harry shouldn't have been able to reveal the Secret to Ron and Lockhart. However anyways assuming all Locket things and so to be true and working, Ron could reveal the Secret to Hermione because by that time they had already destroyed the Locket by Sword of Gryffindor and hence all those who knew of the place were Secret Keepers. 💥

[@babosa75]

When he dropped Helga's secret room theory, me as a proud Huff'n'Puff was like "are you kidding me?" But when he explained it, I was just like, yeah, makes sense

[@michaelmartinez3893]

These make sense. Another I've heard of the Room of Requirement was made by Hufflepuff. Open to anyone who needs whatever they require, and that the moving staircases in a certain sequence will lead you to Ravenclaw'a secret library with ancient books of magic etc.

[@ShootingStarStudio]

The other founders when Slytherin named his chamber: *pretty dramatic name for his man cave*

[@salawinborn7246]

*uses Secret Tunnel song while mentioning Secret tunnels* So proud of you guys and Aang is too 👏👍

[@marcusreading3783]

One of my favorite interpretations of the Chamber is that it wasn't a secret at all and the Basilisk wasn't intended to 'cleanse' the school or anything, rather the Chamber was intended as a shelter for the students with the Basilisk acting as the guard in case the castle ever came under attack.

[@Maholix]

See, the chamber of secrets came off to me as like a defense bunker. I've always thought that perhaps Salazar had pure intentions for it at first, but that the war affected his relationship with his friends. He saw himself as defending other's lives. So the other founders "siding with the humans" felt like a betrayal, making him lose faith. He shut the room, perhaps locking himself inside it, not knowing who to trust.. now thinking he alone could defend wizard kind.

[@marcusreading3783]

@@Maholix The thing is, considering when they lived, Slytherins attitude towards Muggles makes perfect sense. When you have a group who is actively trying to hunt you down and set you on fire, it is not bigotry to hate and fear them, it is basic logic. I've always preferred a more nuanced look at the Founders, rather than 'DURR, SLYTHERIN EVIL!' and considering they lived over a thousand years ago, the chances of the modern Wizarding view of them being accurate is pretty low.

[@Maholix]

@@marcusreading3783 I agree. It doesn't make Slytherin right though, which is why it is so relatable and tragic. One could argue that his tale is a cautionary one about the fervency of commitment, even when a cause is just. Losing himself to his goals and his ambition blinded him to the good around him. While a great wizard in his own right, he wound up leaving a legacy of pain when no doubt all he wanted to do was protect. This is why he and Gryffindor were friends. They were both great men who desired to use their strength for others. So I feel like he would have seen Voldemort as a great evil. Here is his own blood attacking his fellows, causing civil war.. and for what? Salazar would have seen him as misguided.

[@treyharshaw7276]

I think this “theory” is so good and explains things so well that JK would make it canon even if it’s not what she intended.

[@subcutter]

OMG I hat the same theory for YEARS! Also the slytherins chamber was originally a classroom for students he thought were worthy. Well there a lot af purebloods so big chamber. But "true Gryffindors" as we know by the number of people who can pull the sword from the hat, are very rare so a smaller room for less people to teach. Ravenclaws room being the RoR I also always thought so. But the great hall, being Huffelpuffa, I never thought about that, I love that idea. Always kept me struggling but this makes so much sense.

[@ryanward5770]

I thought the direction you were going was the secret rooms were based on the artifacts. Locket - you need to speak parseltongue to open and see what is hidden inside. This applies to the locket and the chamber of secrets. Sword - takes in that which makes it stronger. Could still fit with the headmaster room as each one adds a painting and each headmaster makes the school better. Cup - basically just refilling food. Same as everything in the great hall. Diadem - grants the user knowledge. The room of requirement is literally a massive storage of everything from the past and it's main use in the books was for teaching. I think they each fit really well and the end result is the same

[@sag3studiosx.]

Why can I imagine Salazar, Godric and Rowena sitting there plotting how to. Prank students and Helena’s like “ I’ve completed the whole castle, What have you done?”

[@stephaniehuang3321]

This makes a lot of sense! I love how all of the founders' artifacts are connected to their secret rooms in different ways. Slytherin's locket - contains the information needed to open the CoS. Gryffindor's sword and the sorting hat - basically reside in the Headmaster's Office. Ravenclaw's diadem - ended up being hidden in the Room of Requirement. Hufflepuff's cup - there are literally hundreds of replicas in the Great Hall.

[@louis.p808]

I don't think the founders would make secret rooms in this way. I just think J. K. Rowling imbibed implied connections with all these rooms and the founders. Secrecy and especially exclusivity are common traits of Slytherins, so it is fitting that the chamber with strong resemblances to Salazaar's character would be exclusive and secret. I still liked the video though, as usual!

[@v.v365]

I always thought the Room of Requirement was Helga’s contribution. She was always about helping anyone in need.

[@socksanitizer74]

the real question is how did that basilisk survive so long without food?

[@DonaldKeebals]

Rats, remember all the small skeletons that cushioned Ron, Harry, and Lockhart’s fall

[@kaidwalding1103]

@@DonaldKeebals also Salazar Slytherin could speak parcil tongue and make his wand sleep. Possible he made the basilisk sleep until his heir would wake it up, keeping it alive

[@mellow3995]

@@kaidwalding1103 Yea it was stated in the book I believe that the Basilisk was kept under hibernation between the openings of the Chamber of Secrets

[@taraanddrewwinner7459]

Crocodiles can go 3 years between meals. Olms (similar to a salamander) can go 10 years between eating. I'd assume the basilisk did have to eat something every once in a while, but it could be possible it's only having a meal every decade or so.

[@bookcat123]

Rats. And now, a new what-if theory starter. What if Peter Petigrew got himself eaten by the basilisk, perhaps even while still with Percy before Ron started school?

[@Liv.Mac67]

I always thought Hufflepuff made the Room of Requirement as a room that would help all the students no matter house affiliation or blood purity. It was there if anyone needed it like with Dumbledore. When he was desperate for the toilet in Goblet of Fire he tells Harry about the room full of chamber pots he FOUND. And Hufflepuffs are particularly good at finding things. I thought Ravenclaws was the room that held the Book of admittance and the Quill of Acceptance. Idk why but it always just made sense to me

[@bboops23]

This

[@rebekahc3073]

That makes sense!!

[@barbiquearea]

I think Ravenclaw's room would be the library. I just assumed that since she was the most scholarly of the four, the others would have left it to her to organize a place to put all the books and have them properly catalogued for the students' convenience.

[@mauritsponnette]

@@barbiquearea yeah, she might have designed the library, but I don't think it's her 'secret room'. It's an integral part of the school, just like the kitchens are. Maybe there would be a secret room within the library though.

[@SabbyCat52]

I had this exact though while watching this video. I read the idea that Hufflepuff made the RoR ages ago and hard accepted it into my own canon instantly. It just fits way better than Ravenclaw. Anyone can stumble on it if they're in enough need, that's not excessive cleverness. Now the secret tower of admittance that quite literally no one knows exactly where it's at nor has anyone (that we know for a fact) been to, that's a very Ravenclaw idea. Exceptionally skilled magic to record any magical child for potential admittance? Definitely. While I believe the founders all had a part in creating those specific artifacts (the fact that the book and quill disagreed on Neville implies different creators being involved in my eyes), I think Rowena is the only one who knew where it should go and that knowledge died with her!

[@jakkehaes3863]

Well the moving staircase will teach them how to adapt to a changing situation wich is a helpful skill when everything around you can be changed with the flick of a wrist. Also it forces the students to explore the entire castle.

[@nonothepanda638]

My predictions before watching Huffelpuff: The kitchen Gryffindor: The headmasters office Ravenclaw: Room of Requirement

[@zachariahsperry6393]

How about the Prefect's bathroom as a secret chamber? I could see Helga wanting everything to enjoy a warm bath!

[@michaelwicks1088]

As an extension of this theory, what about the forbidden forest (and also lake?)? was that planted / created or was naturally there and nurtured to house aragog and other creatures?? and also did Hagrid build his hut or was a gift by Dumbledore or something?

[@thebuddercweeper]

Aragog is younger than the forest, he was relatively small when Hagrid kept him in Hogwarts. As for Hagrid’s hut, there was a grounds keeper before him so it’s reasonable to assume that’s where he lived.

[@OceanChild75]

I’m sure Pottermore mentioned a thing about them being around Hogwarts so magical creatures who could be seen by Muggles can be moved over there

[@sergent40]

The Room of Requirements is sometimes used like a private "Landfill".

[@friend_trilobot]

I've heard this theory before and I prefer the idea that the stairs, if employed correctly, lead to the secret ravenclaw room which has yet to be discovered...b/c of course it is still secret, lol..and the RoR is hufflepuff's b/c it does seem to appear to literally anyone who needs it, though being able to access it at will seems to require more forethought - but figuring that out does seem to require more patience and heart than outright cleverness

[@bladethorn]

As a Hufflepuff, I greatly appreciate the sentiment and accept this as canon.

[@zebjensen4251]

I think helgas actuall sevret room is the kitchens where the house elves like to hang out. it would be a good room for her and its directly beneath the great hall where all the food is prepared, which was sorta her whole thing.

[@VisioCloud]

I feel like the secret room in the secret tower that houses the Book and Scroll could have been Helga's. For the same reason, she wanted everyone to be accepted, so she used her room for the thing that would look for and accept new students in to Hogwarts.

[@evelynrowenadawn]

Title: The Hogwarts Founders OTHER Secret Chambers Me: ROWENA RAVENCLAW MADE THE ROOM OF REQUIREMENT!!! J: I think Ravenclaw's secret room, made by Rowena Ravenclaw, was the Room of Requirement. Me: Allitteration *always* allows awesomeness! Also, aha! An agreement. Amazing!

[@temi-twistedzones]

Castles back in time before us had secretive passage ways in case of needing to escape your enemies. It's in the history of places with castles.Mind you that not all castles had these.

[@awimpykidontheroadto5ksubs553]

HEY BROTHER!!!

[@lskywalker4345]

HEY BROTHER!

[@x-rex7236]

What about sister

[@IzraelGraves]

I mean we now have even more secret rooms, like Slytherin's Scriptorium. I'm willing to be there's tons of new rooms we haven't seen.

[@giggle251]

I hate to break it to you but if you keep using the house common rooms as a way to figure out how to get inside the secret chambers. The one for Hufflepuff is the kitchen. You have to sing a song to a barrel and you have to tickle a fruit to get into the kitchen.

[@sun_shadow4142]

What is also really cool about this is that the four artifacts that Voldemort used as horxcruxes where all found/ used in these places. The sword was found is in the headmasters office, the diadem in the room of requirement, the locket was used to find the chamber of secrets in this theory and the cup would have been used in the hall because its a cup.

[@johnconner9296]

Also, I think that the basilisk itself was the secret keeper for the chamber of secrets.

[@leventebardossy5962]

I think not. From a safety standpoint it would make sense, but the Chamber would be impossible to unlock in that case. The Secret Keeper needs to be interacted with first, to open the Chamber, meeting the Basilisk comes only after this, as it's hidden inside the chamber.

[@johnconner9296]

@@leventebardossy5962 we know it can go through the plumbing that's what it does in chamber.

[@leventebardossy5962]

@@johnconner9296 There are three doors to open. First in the bathroom, second at the end of the tunnel. The third is the mouth of the Slytherin statue. Until opening the third, it can't access the pipes.

[@Catlover28565]

I love how Rowena Ravenclaw and Helga Hufflepuff bulding rooms to help, and Godric Gryffindor makes a room just for adventurous students to discover, and Slytherin's hiddng a goddomn basilisk in his secret chamber.

[@hellohsaytin6813]

You ever notice that they dont talk about the moving staircases after the first book? They talk about the trick step, but thats all.

[@OceanChild75]

JK forgot 😂

[@Nocturnnum]

you had me at "SECRET TUNNEL!"

[@BennettMarks]

Those are interesting perspectives on the rooms. But imo It totally makes sense. Why would there be other rooms hidden in other places of the castle. It makes sense that the four founders would need a place of their own to escape from each other considering they all work together all the time! They would need a break.

[@TheElectricSheep]

I love the thought process you use. You aren't just throwing ideas out there, you are explaining why.

[@nathenewendzel7806]

The moving staircases is why the professors should cut the students more slack for tardiness.

[@stevenpeck5949]

The moving staircases reminded me of the Jr. High I went to in the 1960s (Hicksville Jr. High). It was the largest Jr. High under one roof. I tried counting the staircases from memory, but I lost count at 73! Many were one-way, either up or down. Some while they didn't move, they also didn't really go up or down, they were just in the middle of a hall. And I once found a secret room, the elevator had a back door that could open on the 2nd floor to a room of requirements, that is I found the Geography final exams there three days early! When I attended, they had an addition put on that had about 20 temporary classrooms that you found by going down a secret hallway. And by the way, I think the school building is still in use, but as a middle school.

[@toanzhou]

I’m not entirely sure the chamber of secrets was supposed to be opened by one of Slytherin’s heirs. Anyone who knows the word open in Parseltongue can open it. I think it was like the equivalent of a magical tornado shelter. After all, if the castle was besieged (by muggles maybe?), there might not be enough time to evacuate the younger kids and they might need a safe shelter until the danger is over. What a great way to hide them behind a door that would keep them secret.

[@zokora3656]

nah. not during medieval times. nowadays with guns etc? sure would make sense. but back then there is virtually 0 chance of muggels besieging the castle which houses hundreds of wizards and witches and the teachers are the most proficient wizards and witches of their country. Besieging that kinda force with swords, bows and at maximum a trebuchet? nah. every stone the trebuchet throws will be answered by the stone exploding in the middle of the air. every try to forcefully push would result in stupors thrown at them at a rate they cant ever handle their bows. and even if they manage to shot some arrows, protego takes care of that. Lets endulge it and say they actually managed to get into close range to attack with swords. a simple expeliarmus followed by stupor or petrificus totalus would do the trick. 1st years are able to do that much

[@deffdefying4803]

hogwarts was specifically noted as being charmed to either repel or disinterest muggles. muggles wouldnt even know where to start looking for it and if they happened to stumble upon the location, they would remember an urgent appointment or something that would draw them away from the location again.

[@toanzhou]

@@deffdefying4803 too true!

[@drewpearce1383]

I love your ideas for each founders secret room, the great hall makes soo much sense for Hufflepuff but, part of me wonders if she helped Ravenclaw with the room of requirements as is tends to help anyone in need which I feel would make sense of a room created by a witch who only wants to help others.

[@kamo7293]

that makes a lot of sense. why does the headmasters door have gryffins when it should be all four.

[@dalos2428]

Because it's a gryffin-door, ba dum tss

[@brunobisio2406]

But gryffindor's symbols is a lion though. Gryffins represent strength and leadership in heraldry, so I think it makes sense from them to appear in the head teacher's office

[@Kewlausgirl]

@@brunobisio2406 good point. But I like the Gryffin door pun. But further to your point: the fact that there are all the other headmasters pictures there shows it is the headmasters office. But... What if Gryffindor built the secret room as the headmasters secret room? You know a special place the students can't find... But the teachers would know whether to find him. I know the school was supposed to be equal of all houses but it seems like the Gryffindor thing to make the headmaster space a bit of a nod to Gryffindor... And an amusing pun at the same time. I like the idea that he built it for all the future headmasters... Not that it necessarily has to be just for Gryffindors only

[@ladonnabeard34]

Love this theory. Especially, the great hall being Helga's contribution.

[@Starolfr]

That is a beautiful theory - and now my “head canon”. I think they are spot-on & explained perfectly. Also, my already significant love for Helga and her house - even as a Ravenclaw/Slytherin-type, myself - is now even greater!

[@patrickbarton4190]

The fact you put ATLA "Secret Tunnel" is something special - I feel we all grew up together with similar childhoods just in different houses

[@heididavison816]

I think you guys know more than JK herself at this point… There’s no way she thought this far into it. And this makes perfect sense!! Good work

[@thuthuka3562]

Very clever about Hufflepuff. I have wondered about Ravenclaw's secret room. I also thought that the headmaster's office was special, didn't think it was a secret room.

[@Ernoskij]

wait... a Narwhal gets it's horn every time these videos gets a like? That's going to be a seriously big army of Narwhals very fast. Screw the cat overlords, I'm going to pledge allegiance to the Narwhals

[@thedragonwarrior5861]

Who isn't?

[@kobelink4024]

i always loved to think that the crazy room under the trap door was gryffindors way to battle whatever slytherin was doing with his chamber.

[@daninagy4173]

The "moving staircases" thing is definitely a W for muggles.

[@allisonhoff5805]

Jay: "I can't show you the mugs yet" Also Jay: *Shows us all the mugs...

[@analoghabits9217]

Slytherin's hideout isn't secret, hufflepuff's secret isn't a hideout. I think the staircases are primarily a result of rowling characterizing the wizarding world with oddities, some of them are clever (like the griffin door), but the books are coloured with such an abundance of oddities that they can't all be clever

[@hollynixon9570]

I’m obsessed with all of these Harry Potter videos. I have never met people in real life who want to talk about Harry Potter as much as I do.

[@ChristopherWadsworth_]

Who made the room that holds the book of acceptance and quill? (cant remember the name of the room)

[@jomoser83]

One thing I always wanted to know, and maybe you guys already covered it, was rules of the paintings/portraits. Like how far can they go? Is there limits to where they can move about? How do they know where to go? Are the subject to rules like the Fidelius Charm? Could Voldemort just have sent a portraits to find the Potters?

[@loamytenebrous]

I always assumed the room of requirement was the hufflepuff hidden room. To me the staircases were the ravenclaw addition. But that might just be because I'm hufflepuff and always loved the diversity of the room of requirement (the inclusive dorm room for the genderqueer students)

[@ggpt9641]

Loving how the founder most likely to keep a secret has the most well-known secret room. The 3 other secret rooms I agree with. Also, Griffindoor.