The Hollywood jokes are a bit tiresome, but oh my GOD that final scene! | Helluva Boss S2 E2

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[@maibourg9924]

you'd think that because skyen already saw the episode and is rerecording this one would be shorter. yet it is still almost three hours, and i love it. never change skyen.

[@eiriksundby]

Yeah you'd think his thoughts would be more concise, but it seems like his thoughts are actually more fleshed out. Which i like

[@themantsang]

@@eiriksundby nope sorry adhd called

[@inspectorspinda]

Nope I haven’t been eyeing my KZbin feed for a month

[@cazminah]

literally me

[@pommedeter7407]

Yeah no we would never do that

[@cosoconvida6674]

I WAS WONDERING IF HE DIDN'T WANT TO WATCH ANYMORE 😭

[@livith9]

We have something in common then! :D

[@AntediluvianGirl]

Same

[@dan_mnght]

Skyen's reaction to the "fat" thing between loona and moxxie is the exact reason why Loona does it to Moxxie lmao

[@accelleratiiincredibus446]

Exactly. The point is that it confuses and frustrates him because it's obviously not true. She's not trying to hurt him; She's trying to annoy him.

[@michi4066]

Yup. I don't think she's necessarily trying to hit where it hurts. Like Skyen pointed out that'd be really easy to do. She's just trying to annoy him

[@JoniWan77]

@@michi4066 Interestingly enough, that really works for their dynamic. Moxxie is incredibly ticked off by Loona's unserious attitude while being extremely serious and straightforward himself. Thus Loona not seriously attacking him but playfully confusing him and thereby half-assing her insult is pretty thematic.

[@michi4066]

@@JoniWan77 He really can't "well actually" himself outta that one and that's probably more infuriating than an actual insult, specially for someone with a stick as far up his ass as Moxxie (lovingly)

[@baileyrigsby1696]

@@JoniWan77 they have a dynamic?

[@githyanki1899]

"Show me an indie animator...." Show me an indie WRITER who won't put in a sailor moon transformation when given the chance.

[@tartarustrommler5454]

I can't decide if the LA water joke becomes more or less funny when you know that water is 100% acid.

[@Ixbran]

23:34 Best line in this whole series. I love the implication that in their entire life together not once has Stolas ever seen Stella so much as glance at a book, let alone read one. So it makes sense that someone as mean and nasty as her would possibly be illiterate. Books and words bring him joy, she brings him nothing but misery. So the idea of these two things intersecting never crossed his mind lol

[@VaryaTheVillain]

54:02 copying here from discord: personally, I think that "met as children" trope works here BECAUSE it's a trope. because Stolas is nothing if not a consumer of romance through warped perspectives, who had seen that exact trope and THAT is why he reacts to Blitzø with "oh, have you come to RAVISH me?~" he's got experience with romance ONLY through various media, because *obviously* Stella didn't show him an ounce of that. so he's the one pursuing the relationship from that angle, remembering that ounce of freedom and happiness with an imp child like one of his lifelines. Blitzø, meanwhile, due to social disparity and more active (disastrous) love and sex life, doesn't even look at the trope. he played into the role of Stolas' childhood dream lover for the book *and* out of pity, slowly falling into some sort of feelings that we don't have an explicit label on. I wouldn't call it a subversion of the trope, but it's close in some ways.

[@DUWANGlai_kangyi]

I actually agree, especially because when you keep in mind how it probably felt on Blitzø's side... Being literally "bought" for a day, forced to put himself in danger and at odds with people who have all the power over him and his kin... Yes, it makes sense to me the trope would be used to show just how bad the issue of Stolas romanticizing these troped themselves can get. Just how blind he can be due to his own privilege and social ineptitude born from trauma and loneliness.

[@cazminah]

this is a really good point, I hadn’t considered linking the childhood friends-to-lovers trope with stolas’s warped ideas of romance. it’s interesting how blitzø plays into that without fully understanding it, like he fucks stolas out of pity / guilt when he first steals the book and continues to satisfy stolas sexually as part of their arrangement, but he explicitly sets boundaries against romance at the end of Ozzie’s and doesn’t seem to realise that’s what’s stolas craves

[@cherie2861]

1:42:10 oh yeah, stolas' problem with listening to others and being not self-aware is 100% consistent. it's his overall problem, he is constantly in his head, his needs and his feelings, because throughout his life his feelings were neglected, and he constantly don't pay attention how his words and actions might affect others, and especially blitz and octavia.

[@dustyoldrowe]

Blitz needs to call him out on that, because he's 100% playing to much the victim when Blitz accuses him of looking down on him, or rather rich folk looking down on the "lesser" folk, cmon Stolas we know Blitz wasn't the greatest but you're not winning yourself any favors there, you have as much blame as him in all this

[@cherie2861]

@@dustyoldrowe i would say that it shouldn't be blitz to call him out. simply because blitz uses this excuse to push stolas away in his self-destructive way, and it's not gonna help. i personally think stolas needs to be called out by some unbiased person who could see stolas' behaviour towards people and especially imps. i think this is the only way stolas can be like "oh, wait, blitz was kind of right, i f'ed up".

[@hadrianhexe9603]

​@dustyoldrowe Stolas played the victim because he was very much so the victim in thier more tense interactions. Yes Stolas does shit, but he does it not realizing it could be considered bad, while Blitz was screaming abuse at him. Stolas' actions didn't warrant the reaction he got, that's why Blitz is being shown in an unfavorable light

[@vickypedia1308]

​​​@@cherie2861 I could see Octavia, Asmodeus or Fizz doing it. Octavia has been unwillingly caught up in this due to being his daughter and would likely get fed up with the drama quickly, and I can also see him going to Ozzie and Fizz for advice since they have a similar relationship dynamic.

[@gearguts7259]

He's so stuck in his feefees

[@gearguts7259]

The biggest loss for ppl who werent there were the last 10 minutes in which Skyen mischiveously messed with chat bc he asked a question that Literally Everyone wanted to answer but we couldnt cuz it was spoilers.

[@hotdog6523]

What was the question?

[@gearguts7259]

@@hotdog6523 Sadly I do not recall the specificity of it but I remember it had to do with something in Full Moon

[@Springy05]

​@@gearguts7259by what little you are remembering, i guess it probably has to do with the book deal or how they dealt with the aftermath of Ozzie's

[@vickypedia1308]

​@@hotdog6523 I'd have to guess that it might be about asmodean crystals, as he saw Stolas look at the book page of them in the previous episode.

[@gearguts7259]

@@vickypedia1308 Nah the Asmodean Crystal was discussed in chat on The Circus. I think it was something related to The Scene in FM bc I remember Apology Tour beinf partially invokved

[@nikirol4051]

3 hours of Skyen rambling about Helluva Boss, yippie!! Soon your episode reactions will be longer than your tier list of the entire first season, can't wait for when that happens. It's sad that the original recording was lost but it'll still be fun watching you rewatch it :)

[@nikirol4051]

Also I literally use some of your character analysis as therapy since I relate to them so much

[@platinumraven118]

Blitz doesn't take the dog because he was snapped out of the flashback by violence, he has a threat to target in that moment, and relizes that the dog isn't his daughter, and thus is single minded on finding the ACTUAL luna

[@bretsheeley4034]

The one thing I loved about the bumper joke at the end with M&M is that, as far as I can recall, this was the first time in the series Millie sounded genuinely pissed off at Moxxie.

[@3th3r78]

Your joy to the the smear frames will never get old 😂

[@seanmurphy3430]

I admire your ability to look the vastness of space and think, “woah, cool,” rather than, like me, having an entire existential crisis.

[@Springy05]

I think both feelings are natural to occur. Yes, we are tiny in comparison to the vastness of the universe, and our existence means absolutely nothing to it. But at the same time its beautiful and amazing how so many crazy things happen in space that we have no idea about: planets and stars dying and birthing, asteroids and comets swirling around in a solar system...

[@Manimanocas]

Space is cool

[@ioanamoiceanu9533]

Ikr!! 😅

[@YORCHNMG]

Didn't Skyen have thalassophobia? So i remember correctly would be a very similar fear

[@Manimanocas]

@@YORCHNMG Isnt Thalasophobia alao related to the dark and fog that exists in water though? Space is mostly clear and bright if you are near a star

[@theredqueenqc]

For the influencer bit; I think this is reference to when Kanye West and Kim Kardashian divorced and there was a rumor of him being with Jeffree Star (beauty youtuber)? The person with a bathrobe reminded me of him ahah

[@yaelr4154]

1:22:36 I also love how they used the red sunglasses on his forehead to symbolize his second set of eyes

[@Post-Ioooo]

Can't wait for the Full Moon reaction to be like 5 hours long

[@53shelby]

It sucks that the footage was lost, but it’s still great to see your analysis! Edit: watching a little bit into this, I’m thinking of starting a drinking game for how many times you say “I just thing ‘x’ is cool.”

[@amarimochi]

About the credit and critique being only sent to viv, ive noticed it alot too. It feels like the only time i ever hear people mention any of the other team (besides vas) is here or when people want to say "oh viv hired this bad person" "oh this cool thing, no we hate viv so she can't have had any input" its so weird! So many people have so much input on these shows and yet people only ever mention viv!

[@CptApplestrudl]

11:34 "Azatoth" btw is an eldritch entity from HP Lovecrafts stories. Azatoth is the demon prince who dreams reality into existence. Should he wake, reality ends.

[@FlybyStardancer]

1:19:57 I just want to point out Blitzø’s reaction to Stolas’ human disguise. Blushing, pupils dilating, back spikes and tail rising… I know what you are, Blitzø! (It’s so subtle and easy to miss, too.) 1:35:20 Not sure if you caught it, but the dead guy Via steps on was one of the ones that the cherubs saved in their commercial. And yes, that’s based on Griffith Observatory.

[@nb_shopnb_shop]

I think both are not there jet to bond over the relation their child. Right now both see each other as an idealized image, a cutout of what they expected from each other. Stolas is on the way to fix that, but Blitz didn't even have started. Both will take a while to see each other as they they are. Only then they will be able to bond over their children.

[@nikanika439]

1:26:30 This is a reference to Kim and Kanye's divorce, as there were rumors that Kanye cheated on kim with jeffree star, a famous gay male beauty guru

[@Kagedtiger]

I also assume that "influencers who think they're hot shit now that they do TV shows" is also meant to be a dig at VivziePop herself.

[@Kimmie6772]

​​@@Kagedtiger The episode also felt like Brandon Rogers making fun of himself as well.

[@kreuzritter]

also, human version of Octavia's home life, which is what prompted her little stunt in the first place, and that she doesn't want a reminder of

[@milkflavored]

@@kreuzritter I love that that makes Stolas, Kanye NO ONE OWL SHOULD HAVE ALL THAT POWER

[@timeneses]

The burned Ace card does feel like foreshadowing.

[@AmyTheArtist9]

For SURE. And on the opposite wall, there's a frame of 3 aces (A red diamond, another black spade, and what seems to be a BLACK heart?), messed up with possible BLOOD on them?? 59:59 and 1:02:32 👀

[@sallyacorn198]

One funny thing about human Stolas's design is that they dropped a trailer for the first half of season two that had storyboards paired to music instead of full animation (so no color) with a frame with human Stolas from this episode in it. The fandom then proceeded to spend the time between that trailer and this episode dropping arguing (generally lightheartedly) on if that was actually human Stolas, or it was just meant to be a fakeout to remind Blitz of Stolas because it resembled him. Fun times.

[@nevermind9835]

54:20 I understand your thoughts, however the lack of emotional connection is a plot point explored even in the first season and is an integral part of their extremely unhealthy relationship. It would’ve accrued if their relationship was relatively genuine and healthy but… it’s far from that and that’s the point most interesting to me. Thank you so much for the video, I really looked forward to it

[@SevenQs]

My initial reaction to these videos is always 'oh my god the runtime is so long' as if I don't watch the entire thing anyways

[@isaacPc9]

I had to skip some parts

[@Birchlead]

@@isaacPc9I do sometimes but we’re still here lol

[@thelastcrow5660]

I remember people complaining about how Moxxie was "out of character" during this episode and I was just like: Where have you been? Moxxie has always been like this XD

[@nondescriptindividual3793]

as someone who wasn't there for the discord reaction, thank you for going through the efforts to analyze this again anyways :) massive props for taking a minute for yourself of course, and for pushing through the Frustration of lost footage. like seriously, good job and thank you, man; let's hope that technical issue doesn't happen again lol

[@Jan_Iedema]

I do love the little toxic acid water joke this episode. It’s a bit of a background joke but just really tickles me right.

[@SaraBaggins]

Having lived in LA it got me 😂 like yeah, the water is TOXIC

[@brentrevello134]

First thought: YAY new Helluva Boss. Second Thought: Oh no, its almost 3 hours....

[@told1652]

Pretty sure that's all of us here

[@ansonsieu8428]

I see this as an absolute win.

[@palomaroggeri8680]

3 hours is also yay!!

[@latched097]

That’s an “Oh yes” for me 😝

[@lucassoubelet4781]

What do you mean "Oh no"? This is gonna be a good afternoon

[@BlinkoutIRL]

Funny thing is Stolas is only 36 so his outfit doesn't come from seeing humans but from reading.

[@Kayta-Linda]

Nerd berd :3

[@TheSpookychick]

We love our nerdy boi.

[@anormaluser5750]

Kind of unrelated but just when the discord watch-along was starting I was already compromised to watch a movie on a discord call with my boyfriend. He (lovingly) told me I could leave the movie for later if I wanted, but I said to him "Nah he uploads it to KZbin afterwards, it's not like I'm gonna miss anything". *Little did I know.* (I found it really funny)

[@sarahcostello4767]

I think another detail to look at is how Stolas treats his imp servants during the beginning. Because I think this is going to become much more important thing to follow along with in later episodes, and to look back on in past episodes.

[@sandracarnegie2871]

💯

[@Sammy_The_Umbreon]

2:14:03 Yeah, my money is on he got over that. Because it's kinda implied he killed all the people on set. You see the tail end of the movement of the bat impaling the guy on the left. They were crowding him before it went black, now the floor is soaked with blood and they're all dead and he is nowhere in sight. The immediate threat is gone. Another thing that could be very likely is that he doesnt register the human fire as a threat, because it canonically doesn't hurt them? (Episode 1). I don't know if that just extends to imps or all hellborn. But it was stated human fire specifically doesn't hurt them.

[@rhyleesummer]

About Blitz adopting Luna, I like your take on him trying to "save" her, but I thought it was more like he saw a part of himself in her, and he didn't want her to end up like him.

[@eiriksundby]

Thats what saving means in this context

[@tonberry2670]

I feel like Blitzo sees his relationship with Luna as a sort of redemption

[@PurpleLugia]

My read on him adopting her (while choosing her for her similar damage to himself that he understands) was that he also feels a severe need for all kinds of love due to how he was emotionally manipulated and neglected as a kid and has a bad romantic history, and adopting a child to take care of and love would fulfill his need for familial love. He smothers Loona not just to make up for the love she clearly never got, but to try (too hard) to maintain a familial bond with her. Skyen's read on Blitz's panic attack being about the idea of failing Loona isn't bad, but alternatively it might have been from the idea of willingly dropping a familial connection, which he was reminded how much he doesn't want to happen.

[@RevereShin]

Bore us? Oh, good heavens, no, dear Skyen, we're here to witness every last second of your reaction and fully expect you to say all 27 of your catchphrases about good animation and storytelling. Every curse and cuss and flabbergasted expression included. Also, thank you, truly, for taking the time out of your day to re-react to the episode. [Edit] The self-realization at 2:16:11 was perfect! Hahahah

[@FlybyStardancer]

That’s so frustrating, losing the original recording! I don’t blame you for needing some time to recover before analyzing again.

[@TheOriginalYaski]

I like how at 1:10:39 we can see Skyen to a little bit of self-soothing, how when he is trying to focus on his point of how Blitzo sees himself in his relationship with Stolas and doesn't want to wander off topic, Skyen just unconsciously does a little bit of blocking out Blitzo's outline in the scene with his cursor. Big mood buddy, spectrum fellows unite.

[@DUWANGlai_kangyi]

My god, I used to be entirely unaware of why I'd do things like that, I've come to understand a lot about myself in the past 6 months

[@hieithefox]

I absolutely love listening to you talk about something like a rock turning

[@JonBailey]

I can't believe that through all my viewings I missed the insight into the Loona arc you pointed out, it's plain as day, and cemented by the fact that Hellhounds are lower than Imps in the canonical hierarchy.

[@SpectreFantom]

Moxxie being fat "joke" has been made as a "running joke" since the pilot. It did seem to bother him then. Coming back at some point where he mentions that he lost a few pounds and Loona just ignores it. Loona in general does just say things sometimes (maybe it comes from her own lack of confidence in herself) or at least that is my feeling. Especially when she told Millie "You're pretty agile for an old lady" in episode 6 it made me feel that she just likes to talk smack or banter?

[@helenanilsson5666]

Yeah, and I get the impression that Blitz kinda encourages her in that as well when he tags on with the salad comment - and honestly she probably learned that it was safe to bully Moxxie because she saw Blitz argue with him at the office and after she joins in on bullying Moxxie Blitz want to do it even more because that can be their father-daughter activity. It's not healthy parenting behaviour, but it's an understandable psychological shortcut where they're creating a safe (for them, because it doesn't involve actual vulnerability) "us" that is united against something "other" - it's the kind of bonding that schoolyard bullies do.

[@hunrahel]

very easy to empathize with stolas for getting tunnel vision upon finally having momentum on his major life problem

[@hadrianhexe9603]

Yea, and i'm realizing, it kind of irritates me, because Blitz and Stolas are both very empathic people, but people are hellbent on painting one as evil and the other as a victim, especially in the case of Stolas who gets the brunt of the 'he's evil treatment' , because when it comes to privileged people, people suddenly lose the ability to have basic human empathy and understanding.

[@JaserJas]

​@hadrianhexe9603 have you been in this fandom for long? The Stolas criticism and hate is pretty recent/new compared to every thinkpiece that pointed out how evil/abusive Blitzo was being towards Stolas when the show first came out. It seems like since there's some pushback on Stolas's character everyone is convinced he has a hate train when he doesn't? He's still one of the most popular and beloved characters from the series, but because he's so popular and his defenders are so passionate he has just as passionate haters.

[@hadrianhexe9603]

@@JaserJas I've seen way more people coming at Stolas, personally, where as i've seen alot of Blitzo apologists and people acting like the way he acts is justified and ok. And i'd say the hate train is real considering all it takes is a scroll through youtube to see a bunch of people coming at him.

[@Miner49er201]

Just the Marge Simpson meme, looking at a floating rock; “I just think they’re neat.”

[@someguydavies2313]

1:49:33 On the right side of the newspaper there's a pic of Blitzo's shadow being presented as an alien.

[@JaakuSan]

As good as a lot of the serious emotional moments in this are, this episode frustrates me. On the one hand, it is kind of just. Retreading the ground of Loo-Loo Land but with a focus on Octavia and Loona and no input from Stolas. And on the other hand... "If you're not gonna do anything with Moxxie and Millie, if they're not gonna matter, if they're not gonna be part of the story... eh?" This is how I feel about centering an episode on Octavia. If they end up making her a major character going forward, if she and her feelings here have impact on the plot going forward, then this episode is worth it. If it's just here to show off Stolas's personal problems in another perspective and neither her pain or their resolution at the end are going to matter then what was the point. That said I love love LOVE having them all watch fireworks instead of Stolas using his magic to part the smog and see the the meteor shower (a thing he... absolutely could have done...). It's such a great visual metaphor for how their relationship now isn't as grand and fantastical as it was when Octavia was a kid, it's smaller and grimier and more rooted in the grim limitations of the world, but it's still beautiful and worth experiencing. Also if they were gonna have Moxxie and Millie be a joke scene at the end it should have come after the credits.

[@Shiftarus]

Moxxie has been basically trying to get Loona fired since episode 1 lol, also yea nobody would care if they saw a bird person in LA, you run into costumed people pretty frequently

[@kmurphy111]

Not just costumed ppl, they’d probably assume a plastic surgeon did a botch job 😂

[@baggyyy]

Ah, 3 hours... Never change, TBSkyen, never change

[@Zinzoo323]

Can we talk about how the child actress from the live show bit is literally Darla Dimple from Cats Don't Dance? Awesome reference tbh

[@kmurphy111]

I love when ppl clock that. Vivzie has cited it as her favorite animated movie!

[@hunrahel]

@2:47:27 the dad talk scene has the chords to Stolas's lullaby You Will Be OK, but just enough that the listener has to strain to find 'dad' too

[@samfish2550]

I think Luna calls him fat because it's a easy way to get under his skin BECAUSE he isn't fat. It annoys him and keeps him distant without any real effort or over pushing it.

[@kayleighburleson7488]

I laughed so hard at your comment about them not committing to the sincerity of the ending. Hooooo boy! Just wait.

[@tuvillo]

We still loved your ‘Song tier list’ for Hazbin Hotel which was basically a second look at every episode, so there’s no reason we won’t love this.

[@RizoKobold]

i would pay good money to see you teach an animation appreciation class.

[@eow4317]

I think it’s funny how the reactions are only getting longer

[@gearguts7259]

Cannot wait for the Mammon's one

[@zacharygrinner6528]

I'm a big fan of all of your content, but your reactions are by far my favorite. Thanks for keeping them up, even though they don't really pay the bills.

[@merrychristmasreaper]

Skyen - "Oh yeah I have adhd, so my short term memory's not so good." Me, with adhd: "Huh. Skyen has adhd? I'd actually have never guessed. He seems so--" 8:45 - 10:30 "Ooooh, there it is."

[@Vanessa_bean]

I love these reaction vids cuz they make me really appreciate the animation aspect of the show, like I know how complicated animation can be but this really highlights the work that goes into shows like this

[@vahnvega1990]

I had a friend take a vacation to L.A., he absolutely hated it and it was hard to find any decent places. So I'd say its accurate.

[@ioanamoiceanu9533]

1:17:21 i think it's metacomentary that no matter how skinny someone is they can still be gaslighted into believing their too fat

[@TheSpookychick]

The biblically accurate Blitz took me out.

[@gamingn6451]

Knowing how closely linked Blitz and Loona's damage is to eachother, it makes me want to compare Blitz's doting on Loona to Stolas' miscommunicated appreciation of Blitz (which is a subject that will be touched more upon later in the series). It's this empty validation, while which sounds good on paper, doesn't help and fails to get through to these two who will never see themselves as anything more than broken goods. Blitz needs to find some common ground with Loona (not as a father, but as a friend) to explain how exactly he has faith in her, in the same way that Stolas needs to be more direct with his feelings and desire to advance the relationship (instead of getting whisked away by romantic fantasy). It's so easy for these two to accidentally not consider every angle of how the other is feeling purely because they care so much for them, but due to their positions of power, it changes the dynamic entirely. As a Hellhound, Loona was basically adopted like a dog out of a pound, and because of that experience, she probably expects to be dumped once her "owner" is sick of her. Similarly, Blitz has seen some hard times as an Imp and has had to do plenty of things to get by (such as stealing from the palace back when the two of them were children), so it's hard for him to see past his "purpose" with Stolas (especially when considering the class issue).

[@NyehNyeh12]

Will always regret not staying when I caught the stream just a little bit late, thinking “I’ll get the complete thoughts when the video is posted!”. No you silly goose, you’ll have to wait another 2 weeks or so to get a different reaction all together. Regardless,, i am VERY happy, and this was still fantastic. I really hope you’ll get back to recording these consistently. I’m so exited for everything past episode 6. Ofc everything before that as well, but slightly less 😅

[@thinwhitemook8314]

I've been waiting for you to reach this episode just because of the Loona / Octavia scene's animation. Even as a fan who doesn't know a lot of the technical parts of animation, they wowed me on that front. Also, somehow I knew you'd bring up Milt Kahl again.

[@Kalaggu2020]

2:16:13 y'know? thinking about it, idk how you did it, but you made this episode as enjoyable as the ones before. It's good to get lost in the sauce, if you do what you enjoy it shows

[@EtamirTheDemiDeer]

When he was talking about pushing others away first because you're always waiting for the other shoe to drop... it makes me wonder how much is too much? Because I've been in situations where the person who is pushing away does some really horrific shit. And so I have to wonder where is the line? Yes, you love this person but they're hurting you. Really badly. And it doesn't seem to stop. when is enough enough? I suppose it would be a case by case basis. Is the person trying to seek help? Are their apologies hollow if they give you an apology at all? Because at some point you do have to put your foot down that you won't tolerate that kind of behavior.

[@JohnBogna]

1:50:00 not sure if you've seen Cats Don't Dance, but the blonde child actor here is a reference to Darla Dimple, the main villain of that movie.

[@courtneyb9182]

1:26:15 Back in January 2021, there was a rumor that Kanye West was hooking up with a KZbin makeup content creator, Jeffree Starr. The rumor ended up being completely false. But for a couple of weeks, there were memes everywhere online with people joking that it was the reason for Kim Kardashian and Kanye's divorce, which had gone public not too long before. This episode came out in Fall of the same year, so I'm fairly positive that's what this is a reference to, lol.

[@kfphunter1315]

2:45:50 it is obviously for the future. Just like in the 1 season. In Season 1, Episode 2, we set up a lot of ground. For example, Millie's large family, Moxie's gullibility and shooting abilities

[@flinnferret]

love you analysis of stolas (and of via) in the phone szene in the beginning, so good!

[@dodiswatchbobobo]

Every show with people based in Hollywood needs to do an episode about how terrible working in Hollywood is. It’s just the rule.

[@Kalaggu2020]

Dw about the unspoiled reaction thing,. It is a bummer dont get me wrong, but, I'm just really glad I get Skyen + Helluva boss

[@alana6095]

ngl, ive watched this episode a hundred times. always thought the episode was beautiful, i have had my understanding of it and my own analyses. but as you were talking about loona, both in the blitz flashback scene and in the final scene i cried beacuse of how you were talking about it. (i hadn't cried before when i watched). love your analyses of the characters, i binged watched ur helluva boss reactions and i just wanted to praise you for it. love how you talk both about the plotline and the animation, its so entertaining! the more hours the video has, the more fun, lol

[@dalbertyn]

I do appreciate the amount of time Skyen takes to talk about the animation techniques and visual story telling. It's so nice to listen to someone going all out about the knowledge they have on a subject (and finding a funny animation smear is just good for giggles). But also, film and animation (BUT ESPECIALLY ANIMATION) details are super intentional. It's rare for shit to be hanging out in the background because "it looks good". Anyway, one animation nerd enjoying the work of another animation nerd here.

[@radish_dash4155]

Not even five minuets in and he's talking at length about a spinning rock... godamn It's good to be back

[@delrodriguez9422]

Wanna say first off watched this on the discord originally didn't realize the amount of editing that goes into Skyen's model I assumed it was live like a vtuber. Just Great Job Edit: I watched it live on the discord and just assumed I had bad Internet on my end that it was coming in choppy on my end.... also my squirrel brain remembers basically nothing from the reaction besides gushing about the ending scene, laughs at some jokes, and that you loved the stolas drama/lust for blitz in this episode and the fact that they can bond over shared trauma and being dads.. oh and the frame by frame of the sun moving with the wisps of plasma

[@viedal]

30:30 NO SPOILERS but this is such a huge problem for Stolas and my biggest issues with his behavior regarding Blitz, he does the exact same thing to him, ignoring body language and dismissing his concerns and physically turning his back on him.... ofc it's easy to sympathize with stolas because we KNOW he has a lot of love in his heart, but he hasn't yet learned the ability to love, to make someone feel loved and decenter himself enough to see the other person communicating verbally and non verbally. but at least blitz hold his own, argue back and advocate for himself, it's heartbreaking to see his daughter just shirk away and try to handle things on her own given that she grew up experiencing that from the person she loves most. this might be the first time she's gotten lost in the human world, but who knows how many other times she had to figure things out on her own because her parents weren't giving her the support she needed.

[@sandracarnegie2871]

💯

[@nonamefromtwitter9936]

Not a spoiler, because no episodes related to thing I am talking about is out yet, But recently there was an interview with Viv where she mentioned we will get Stella's perspective or at least get an idea why she is the way she is. But it seems a lot of time will pass before we get to that. Also she compared Stella's shift of role/understandability to Bojack's mother

[@jannegrey593]

OK. The average distance between 2 "rocks" in Saturn's rings is between 1 m and 30 cm. Yes, space is vast and you're correct about this in most places. But in select few it is that close.

[@jasonjasso666]

Man going from that one KZbinr who shall not be named that takes every opportunity to represent Stolas in the worst possible light (sometimes even misrepresenting quotes to support their narrative or just making shit up), to your nuance take on him is so refreshing. The man has problems, but some people act like the show itself doesn’t know this just because a character doesn’t explicitly call him out.

[@taniatokustar7737]

OK im curius who is that who shall not be named?

[@JulianaBizerra-dw7ve]

Yeah who's that?

[@jasonjasso666]

@@taniatokustar7737You’ll know who I’m talking about if you just searched up Stolas is awful episode discussions or something like that, pretty hard to miss. Trust me though, it ain’t worth the headache, and they use the “just joking” or “it’s for entertainment” defense if you try to give any valid criticism.

[@liutoturtle5195]

Forget their video on Stolas, watch their take on Steven Universe, they did not age well

[@taniatokustar7737]

@@jasonjasso666 is it arteiceTB? Whait are yall talking about lily?

[@Mewpuff]

I relate so hard to Octavia but oh lord this episode *hit*

[@malarcher5580]

was lucky enough to see the original live from start to finish. a shame it’s lost but at least this allows more detailed analysis to be done due to it being a rewatch!

[@Springy05]

1:52:43 actually man, this is probably showing more of a dog adoption/penthouse thing than Juvie, and in those places when they say a "dog aged out"... That means euthanasia. So yeah... Even darker depending on what we're meant to understand from here

[@quentin7670]

I think because of the scene in spring breakers when she says something along the lines of “i was almost eighteen, I didn’t you then” The euthanasia hypothesis is a bit less likely

[@Springy05]

@@quentin7670 maybe, but the wording hints a bit at it, so probably is a case where both can be correct, you just pick your poison. At least until we get confirmation from Viv or the team

[@quentin7670]

@@Springy05 yes, obviously this was just my opinion

[@Springy05]

@@quentin7670 no, not saying its wrong or anything man. Just meant that we are supposed to theorize and stuff

[@MeidoGhoul]

just started the vid and, based on the timestamp alone, I’m so glad even with this being a redo it clearly didn’t mess with things much lmfaooo.

[@wintersakiller]

1:13:15 LA is weirder than you could ever imagine, words will not do it justice

[@HawaiianJuicebox]

Skyen, to be short: yeah, in LA, you can probably find a street vendor selling furry porn. I've seen it a couple times, & LA is just that weird

[@fonziecow2268]

To literally all of your LA questions: yes, yes, and yes.

[@cailawilliams1434]

Honestly if I saw someone who looked like Octavia - bird features and all I would just be very confused and wonder why they’re cosplaying so severely on a random day but also good job you who am I to judge also that would be cool as fuck, weird shit happens that’s just a lot of hard work for what

[@mariostoynov]

2:16:25 "How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man!"

[@ioanamoiceanu9533]

I do agree that Stolas has to do better by Octavia, but I don't think that's a choice at this point. In order for him to be there for Octavia he needs to be at ease with himself and he can't do that with Stella screaming in his ear (did you hear the bird???) And there isn't an easy way to explain this to Octavia either. Sure, he can seat her down and explain that her mother is a bitch, but on one hand it can be interpreted as Stolas wanting to cause tension between mother and daughter (which is a dick move) and on the other hand, I don't think Octavia is that open to understanding Stolas either. Cuz she does see how Stella treats Stolas and an adult would probably understand that this is not the time to expect Stolas to remember promises, but she is a teenager. Not saying she's inconsiderate, but at that age you're not experienced enough to realize what problems take priority and just think everything is about you. And I don't even know if Octavia understands her mother's behavior as problematic, cuz all her life she's seen Stella acting this way and Stolas saying it's fine, because he wanted Octavia to have a normal life. It's a shitty situation and I'm not saying Stolas is treating Octavia right, what I'm saying is that that's the only way he could act in this situation, because Stella won't let him be

[@NoirRaven]

1:15:00 Someone on the staff thinks gaslighting is funny. That's literally it. "Moxxie isn't fat but wouldn't it be funny if we made him think he was and give him an eating disorder????" It's hella confusing and has never been funny, not that we've gotten to the eating disorder part, he just admits to losing some weight in the pilot or episode two. Can't remember. The only thing that can save this bit is if Moxxie ever turns it back onto Loona by not reacting and revealing it doesn't bother him anymore ever since he realized it's _projection_ on her part.

[@gizenzirin8351]

Only about an hour and 17 into the video, but the thing about Loona calling Moxxie fat is both a reference to the pilot when she did the same thing, and I think also just a case of her and Blitz playing on Moxxie's anxieties by specifically gaslighting him about something that's obviously wrong.

[@davilandin5754]

Everyone wake up new three hours long video of a twenty minutes long episode just dropped

[@emmettlover11]

I love these breakdowns so much! When you mentioned foreshadowing at the beginning, it clicked to me that even Stolas’ description of the meteor shower “made of the hopes and dreams of every living thing that never came to be.” Like how seing the meteors was Octavia’s dream and it never came to be either!

[@scorpioneldar]

PREWATCHER! now that that is out of the way. sucks that the recording shit the bed. honestly just happy to see you back skyen.

[@DanksterPaws]

1:30:24 the point is they needed a musical number this episode too and this was it

[@Nomxla]

Obligatory “holy shit the runtime” comment

[@GrenDrake]

It's a shame the original recording didn't work, but I'm glad you remade the reaction.

[@uwu-ly3eb]

3 hours of re-watching an episode, love it tho, I ate it up

[@sandracarnegie2871]

"Why didn't he take the dog?" Obviously he realized it wasn;t Loona

[@glitter-fiasco]

Well yeah, but it would have made better narrative flow if there had, as Skyen mentioned, been a shot of him realising it wasn't her rather than skipping over that