The Homage to Aleksib

[@MatthewKingpin]

AleksiB ultimately just needed teammates who believed in him as much as he believed in them.

[@allmite]

Or just needed the game to crash to get a more favourable playoff bracket :>

[@ollimikkola7168]

@@allmite literally strongest playoffs like almost ever

[@allmite]

@@ollimikkola7168 Dodged VP/Mouz in semis, that’s why he won

[@jussi5537]

@@allmite You really want to hate on aleksi, you came to video where thorin talks about aleksi just to comment bullshit here. Sad life!

[@allmite]

@@jussi5537 No, I genuinely want him to get a win without any asterisks above it. So far has not happened. If you like him and think he is good, you should want that too.

[@2013_Shox]

Thorin is the narrator of CS.

[@doliniplanini2260]

Richard Lewis>

[@exsk506]

@@doliniplanini2260nah rl has a good commentary on things but thoorin just breaks down the whole history of the subject

[@aryotaheri7421]

He’s not just the narrator of CS, he is esports 😆

[@Zetriat]

its crazy how even after the major win. Most of the hltv posts I saw was really negative about aleksi. What does this guy have to do to make them realise that he is actually a top tier igl.

[@VNTRFilms]

Nothing, people are just whining because they were proven wrong but are too afraid to admit that to themselves.

[@sionyde2345]

He has to be karrigan at this stage to shake any negative criticism off

[@myytti16]

Blade didn't consider him as top IGL and he is their coach.

[@Barbaari111]

@@myytti16 *When he joined NaVi

[@premiumfruits3528]

Navi represents s1mple. Hating s1mple has been a popular pastime of a large part of the CS community. Aleksib is guilty by association. They don't hate him, they hate Navi and anything to do with Navi. Also I guarantee at least a third of them are just ass blasted that Donk lost and no one has even mentioned his name in weeks.

[@Tr00py]

Hooxi could never be as good as AleksiB

[@cpfantastic5576]

Aleksib removed unfairly but it Doesn't matter that Hooxi is not as good as Aleksib, he's doing good enough. Stop blaming him, his teammates don't show up except Monesy.

[@Tr00py]

@@cpfantastic5576 It is absolutely Hooxis fault, from the vetoes to utilizing your star rifles. If the best awper currently, most skillful raw rifler in cs history and another HLTV top 15 player isn't good enough to win, what will? He needs monesy, Zywoo, S1, donk to win?

[@Barbaari111]

@@Tr00py Niko and Hunter aren't anywhere on your list in CS2 bud

[@Tr00py]

@@Barbaari111 my list? wtf are you on about

[@Barbaari111]

@@Tr00py Niko and Hunter shitting the bed is hardly something you can solely blame on Hooxi.

[@BruceLVL]

The embodiment of "look at the bigger picture"... Nice work old geezer!

[@kilroy518]

Not to hate on thorin or anything just asking if I remember correctly, wasn't thorin a big critic of aleksib for a long time? As a long time aleksib fan I remember starting to dislike thorin(s opinions atleast) because of this.

[@BruceLVL]

@@kilroy518 Not really. Thorin was actually biased towards Aleksi

[@kilroy518]

@@BruceLVL aight thanks.

[@pinkocean310]

AleksiW

[@bnd1344]

The man was hyping Astralis before the astarlis era (greatest of all time) happend; told everyone that s1mple will be the goat player before it happend; hyped Alesib when most of the scene was out on him (among others things). If you doubt Thorins skills you are wrong. Objectively wrong at that.

[@outkripper]

The victory lap of I told you so is so fire

[@Rickadahaka]

Blade made AleksiB better IGL, after win the major AleksiB in the arena mentioned about Blade. AleksiB in the past has superstars players, when hes was IGL, but it not work out. Because AleksiB could not handle ego players in team. In NAVI after Simple leave the team, he finally had young team core which ones actualy listening IGL , and all 4 players are not selfish. Thats why they managed reach the tops, even if AleksiB dont have any superstar player ;]

[@sionyde2345]

Also lets be honest he was alone in terms of support from the team like the coaches either didnt work hard enough (djl, ruggah) or didn’t believe in him (xtqzz) along with some players like niko was doubtful at times and konfig

[@myytti16]

Aleksib needed a coach who stopped him from micro managing everything. Good job Blade (as he stated in the interview he gave about Aleksib)!

[@mr.haltterhorn3405]

Link in blade interview?

[@user-iz7sx8bq6s]

you are fucking smart man

[@Antsapantsa]

except about jL

[@user-iz7sx8bq6s]

@@Antsapantsaok thats fax

[@mihirx27]

​@@Antsapantsa him and jL just have beef it's okay let it happen just be a silent watcher and enjoy it with popcorn innit

[@vladpav]

@@Antsapantsa fuck jL= just loser

[@sandwichmaker1289]

bro is vennuli 😅😅

[@tondys1675]

AleksiB is like Mourinho of CS

[@Jerpza]

aleksi + blade mastermind duo

[@Equalzer]

Really interesting interview with blade where not only is he insinuating aleksib was tier 2 before joining NAVI but also that he was micromanaging too much, too defaulty etc etc basically repeating all the hater points while insisting that its all him showing aleksib how its done. He even brought the point of aleksib changing so many teams while ignoring the context of those teams completely. While I do not doubt blade making aleksib even better, the timing of that interview worries me if its another case of a coach trying to throw his IGL under the bus even after just winning the biggest trophy there is to win. But maybe there's just too much lost in translation, hopefully its the latter.

[@rulertrueself6236]

i dont think blade was undermining aleksib as an igl, blade himself has very different views on what a tier 1 igl is (boombl4 and electronic) so maybe he just meant aleksibs way of igling doesnt work in the navi system and unlike xtqzzz, blade did actually try to work with aleksib instead of benching him after a few months because he didnt like the way aleksib calls

[@MEGAsporg12]

where can i find that interview

[@romaliop]

He's clearly talking about his style. And coming from basically 80-90% tier2 or tier1.5 background, it's not that simple to just change everything immediately. Aleksib did micromanage players when he felt that they needed it, but in B1ad3's system everyone has to be responsible for their own decisions (which has been a massive struggle for iM for example early on) and I assume this is what B1ad3 means with tier1 IGLing. That you don't have time to wait for directions and responses because you need to react immediately to things happening on the server.

[@TuomioK]

​@@romaliopI havent watched that interview but could it be that blade meant how aleksib was igl of tier2 players? That would make sense because then its exactly what thorin is talking about. Aleksib had to micromanage these tier2 players to work for him and in tier1 you need to trust those players more and not micromanage them. I dont know this is just speculation.

[@sionyde2345]

Love how you twisted the words “he was not a tier 1 igl” to “he is tier 2”

[@mehow2g]

Micro managed everyone to a major, what a guy !!!!!

[@anD_halfwayCrook]

lets not forget thorin calling jL a moron💀 wheres the homage to him?

[@Rickadahaka]

Thorin call him moron, coz hes jealous jL personality 😅

[@jerp1367]

He's said many times that despite being a moron, he has good aim and fundamentals and can excel with guidance/activation/game plan.

[@jka12504]

What you think about Blad3's comment that they try to get more and more Aleksib to stop micromanaging and he also said that he thinks before Aleksi joined Navi, Aleksis style to think CS was little bit old school?

[@tymurmylosvietov4120]

NAVI are the greatest org ever. Legendary!

[@kivori3438]

I dont agree with some of your toughts in pro scene but your toughts about aleksib are almost equal as mine and i agree about what you think. Good video

[@thomasglas3613]

Almost equal to yours? Then it must be amazing thoughts! 😂

[@kivori3438]

@@thomasglas3613 the fact he is great with “no star” rosters cuz he can make them shine

[@Alex_zer0_Shoveller]

but people will literally suck karrigan and gla1ve off

[@MusicJunkie37]

why not?

[@Alex_zer0_Shoveller]

@@MusicJunkie37 easy to call strats when your superstars are already the best in the server

[@TROLGUY999]

@@Alex_zer0_Shoveller glaive and karrigan are another level compared to aleksib

[@yrrahyrrah]

​@@TROLGUY999 Would love to see them try to work with the likes of mantuu, NBK, Issaa, sergej, Aerial, xSeven, etc. and getting to playoffs and finals.

[@TROLGUY999]

@@yrrahyrrah honestly i dont even remember making this comment and i do agree with what you said

[@unknownentity8256]

1:58 You don't get the MVP of a major tournament with just good aim. Please don't try to say "but Aleksi 100% micro managed all of his moves so that made his game sens 10x better" or something retarded like that.

[@TROLGUY999]

nah but hes still dumb as a rock, all aim no brain

[@meittiite]

he's super jealous of jL... jL owned Thorin so bad on twitter that he still can't sleep sometimes because he's thinking about how jL embarassed him. And jL embarassed him madly by winning the major being the mvp. Just imagine Thorins greasy fingers ready to write some shit about jL if he didn't deliver like he did and won everything.

[@TheRentrap]

Common Thorin W

[@cpfantastic5576]

Aleksib is so deserved man, the best IGL ever.

[@Drakon332x]

Most of the comments here didnt even listen or read the blade interview. What are you all on about lol.

[@zabbba]

what is the outro song?

[@kennetm9777]

Street fighter Ken`s theme (some metal cover of it)

[@zabbba]

@@kennetm9777 ty very much

[@karlbastos2800]

Navi have fluked the major but I don't think Aleksib did

[@bradleyfirby648]

Good phrasing

[@unknownentity8256]

FaZe fanboi coping?

[@darrenfleming7901]

I don't know if you can really call it a fluke when the only teams coming in with strong expectations are Faze and Vitality, and even Vitality has been unstable. The start of the CS2 era has been the biggest period of instability for the esports in 12 years and really only Faze has seemed to go through it untouched. Spirit looks good but they won one tournament and people act like they are an established and consistent team now which is unreasonable, none of the other teams actually look consistent and stable except Faze like I said. So maybe you can say it's a fluke because Faze is the clear favourite but I think it's a stretch to call it a fluke based on just the finals going unexpected, to call something a fluke I think you need multiple unlikely results lining up and that wasn't the case in copenhagen because there weren't clear favourites other than Faze.

[@karlbastos2800]

@darrenfleming7901 imo I think 3 players overperformed. Unless Im has Jimmy butler thing and only performs in majors. The only player the was consistently performing throughout the major was alexibe

[@darrenfleming7901]

@@karlbastos2800 I basically agree with you I'm just saying with how unstable and inconsistent every team is right now it's not as much of a fluke as the same result would have been one year ago for example, the teams that did look better than Navi weren't all that consistent themselves except obviously Faze so it's more of a tournament where everything is up in the air than a real fluke in my opinion.

[@AndreasJacobson]

What do you mean he's got s1mple? Is s1mple officially back in Navi?

[@vittormp]

The thing is that you've been going on on Twitter about Na'vi's win this major is a fluke. I understand that the stars aligned perfectly for him to have a shot at FaZe (it could've been much, much worse if Spirit didn't crumble, or FaZe even), but he still had to be there to grab it. And he was and they were. Now, I'm not doubting you really believe in his potential - that much I saw and now everyone sees it (again) in this montage. However, to say it is a fluke you're undermining the belief that you have in him being bigger and getting even more trophies. So I think a stance has to be taken: either you actually see the potential and the capability of him continuing to be a great, yet underrated, IGL; or you just think he's a fluke guy. I don't believe those to be compatible stances.

[@corey5894]

He thinks AleksiB is a very good IGL, he thinks NaVi is not a very good team. Is that complicated for you?

[@HaasTheFirst]

He thinks navi is of course a good team, but not the greatest and the run was kind of lucky. Which is obvious with 49 percent round win. Swap s1mple in for iM and they would be constant title contenders

[@cameronheath1663]

Still calling JL brain dead just cause he don’t like ya. Can’t be a major mvp and be stupid.

[@misterkefir]

How come? These two are not mutually exclusive at all, what are you even talking about?

[@cameronheath1663]

Typical thorn fan

[@MaxSoininen]

Sure you can.

[@MusicJunkie37]

You can be smart ingame but have stupid demeanor Example: s1mple

[@Olter_]

Zeus is not a smart guy sorry to say

[@GTASMehMet]

nip was great untill konfig came in... hes a sick player but killed the vibe by his ''im a veteran and i know all'' attitude.

[@MaxSoininen]

DJL was the issue. (and large parts of the org too)

[@sionyde2345]

⁠@@MaxSoininenwhat did djl do? Think he never really worked hard enough with aleksi but the org and players like konfig put a nail in aleksi’s coffin in nip