The Horrific Mont Vernon Home Invasion

[@margiwilliams13]

I live in this town and remember when this happened. The punks that did this lived a few towns over and were a bunch of rich, spoiled brats..fast forward, they are now in Concord State Prison with life sentences. A family member of mine is a transportation officer there, said they're not acting so tough anymore and really aren't having a good time there being locked up. GOOD!

[@Stopthisrightnow560]

So glad to hear.

[@tabby73]

Thanks for sharing that! Happy to hear.

[@carbine090909]

what? not having a good time? i guess the other inmates figured out who they were dealing with...

[@tessaducek5601]

Good to hear! 👍

[@TheEmily1218]

This is so lovely to hear.

[@livylu6287]

Can you imagine bleeding out and being put on hold to get transferred. Poor baby. She just so sweetly said “OK.” 😢

[@johnmichaels4330]

It might seem strange, but the police work with the equipment they have. It's an old system. I'm sure it's been upgraded since.

[@swagwolfgang]

Well i mean would you rather them not transfer her? You’re acting like dispatch did something wrong

[@beevonerd]

​@@swagwolfgangIts really not that serious. I'm pretty sure OP was just talking about how scared the girl must've been after being put on hold etc. She went thru A LOT, and she had no guarantee she was gonna live thru this. Every second on hold probably felt like an hr.

[@DeeP-_PerspectivE]

@@swagwolfgang Mong, OP is saying in the worst possible scenario the little girl is patiently saying ok. Instead of screaming and babbling on the phone yelling at the dispatch repeating the things as 90% of people would do in that scenario.

[@moonluna464]

They didn't know at that time she just said someone robbed the house. The dispatcher did what was necessary.

[@emt1296]

Jamie grew up to be an open, kind hearted young lady living every day as if it were her last in her Mom's memory. She's got twice the balls all four of these trash beings have.

[@Fiona_Interrupted]

Big Ovary Energy 💪🏻

[@markmike7933]

Well if she had balls she'd be a man. There's plenty of words to describe her that aren't as crass, genetically wrong and just plain silly.

[@johnhynes5557]

You do know that having balls does not actually contribute to someone's bravery right? And where does she have them? In her hand bag? In her pocket? Stored in her cheeks like a squirrell?

[@federmanjr730]

@@Balletified very true are you a doctor?

[@sunrae7680]

@@Balletified I'm quite sure she's getting excellent help. But, she is due to get pissed off and destroy somethings. And then keep it moving.

[@givensurname1296]

Kudos to the friend that wasn't a psycho and told his mom as soon as he realized it was true.

[@frans_bauer]

Yeah but i think Autumn's way of acting was just stupid..

[@rockstarofredondo]

@@frans_bauer Autumn was probably a little scared and just didn’t want them leaving evidence on his parents’ property, so in his teen brain, thought it was better to chuck it somewhere else for them. Really foolish but not evil.

[@frans_bauer]

@@rockstarofredondo never said it was evil.. its just stupid

[@janebrown7231]

He didn't. His mother overheard the two main culprits telling her son about the murders and she drove to the police station.

[@Stopthisrightnow560]

Hearing her say it was just a robbery on the phone broke my heart. She was so confused she didn't even know what was happening.

[@carbine090909]

i know, and sighing, "ok" when she was being transferred. dear Lord what crappy civil service not to even ask if she was safe.

[@cuddlecakes7153]

@@carbine090909 They have to get information as fast as possible, sometimes asking if someone is ok is precious time that could be used to actually start sending police there

[@princess2none]

@@cuddlecakes7153 what information did he get? He was quick to transfer and not get info

[@killercat1981]

She sounded so calm on the phone considering what she just went through along with the amount and seriousness of her injuries, calmly waiting to be transferred to another line.

[@user-ml8mx3bc2t]

@@princess2none she was transferred to a dispatcher to get more information, lucky she was able to get the words out.

[@WobblesandBean]

I'm in awe of Jaime. I know I wouldn't have the strength to go through what she did, and still attend the trial, let alone SIT IN THE FRONT ROW to make sure that monster could look her in the eye. Everyone needs to know this woman's name, because she is more badass than anyone else I have ever seen.

[@TheEmily1218]

preach.

[@huskylove8637]

💯... peace & luv 💞...bet her Mother is Sooo proud 🥲

[@bwj4893]

Ditto!!! She's much stronger than the four would-be bad asses who couldn't bring her down! I hope they all rot in jail till the end of their miserable lives.

[@shawnm.martin5721]

Agreed on all and don't underestimate yourself. It's amazing what we can do under the most challenging circumstances. RIH Kimberly. Be well and live the best happiest life Jaime!!

[@lovingmayberry307]

Absolutely! She's much more than the 4 little cowards she faced!!

[@MAnna-tq9hg]

Jamie is just amazing! She survived, she called 911 and she f*cking went to court and sat in the front row! Just wow! ❤ happy she is doing fine now 😊 i am so sorry her mother did not survive! 😔 condolences to her family . 💔

[@mlautner03]

Thanks M. Anna..... none of us wanted to listen for ourselves or anything.

[@ar2043]

So don’t read the comments first… That’s KZbin true crime documentary 101… What are you kidding me? Pfffffft!!!!!!

[@IttyBritt0829]

@@mlautner03 People who go to the comments before watching the video and then get butthurt about spoilers are ridiculous 🙄

[@Anthea_Bambi]

She did an interview in 2019. She’s Seems to be doing well

[@ilalou941]

Yes, that was exactly what I was thinking, amazing

[@GT--BTS]

I cried when Jamie entered the court room with her father. That sweet girl has lived the nightmare of her mother being brutally murdered and was viciously attacked and hurt herself. I am so thankful she survived. But I really hope she doesn't have nightmares... How many nights must she have cried out in fear? Sweet child! I feel for her. Glad that she is such a fighter. She won in the end. She beat those 4 monsters with the strength of her strong, positive mind. What a fighter!

[@HeheBOiPadhle]

Even if she nightmares of them, we have a consolation that she will never see at least two of them ever again. Life sentences are a blessing for the victims.

[@merncat75]

You're right, I thought the same.. that is a level of trauma that takes years of therapy and she could still suffer with C-PTSD for life, especially at night. Absolutely tragic and heartbreaking 💔 Yet she was still there in the front in court row during the trial. Amazing strength.. she is a fighter

[@floridanews8786]

Indeed, nobody should have been subjected to that.

[@billybarrett3364]

so well said GT

[@johnmichaels4330]

@YogeshPadhaku life sentences are a slap in the face. The death penalty is the only poor justice for something like this. Try being in her position and tell me it's a blessing to know the murderers will get 3 meals a day, recreational time, time to make friends and get a college degree. Time to read and enjoy themselves.... if you still think that is a blessing, you are spoiled and demented.

[@NFournaridis]

This case broke my heart and the way the newscaster pronounced “disciples” broke my brain.

[@oddcirumstances]

I was looking for this Newscaster gave me a stroke

[@roems6396]

Damn, I was just about to write this same thing. How can you be a newscaster and not know how to pronounce that word? People don’t read fucking books anymore, and they can’t recognize words that aren’t said in everyday conversations.

[@kinky2526]

God we all have the same though plan about the newscaster.... we should start a gang 😈 jk jk this is messed up hope they burn in whatever place you go to when you die

[@criessmiles3620]

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[@criessmiles3620]

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[@MultiKm1]

Jaime is a warrior. What a courageous little girl she was. I hope she's living her best life, along with her dad.

[@Bonsoirmonamie]

Absolutely. These wannabe tough guys saw real fortitude in that little girl. God bless her.

[@datura_boof]

:)

[@extragoogleaccount6061]

She is amazing. I can't help feel for the Dad, being the male of the household I'm sure he has had to deal with the feelings that come with survivor guilt or missplaced guilt with not being there that night. I just hope he has been able to focus on Jaime's future and not succumbed to those dark thoughts.

[@CONEHEADDK]

"Funny" part of things like this, isn't that the "kids" don't care (we know, that kind of people exist, and always will) but that they actually choose to do it - as if they would get away with it. Absolutly zero chances of getting away with it, if more than one person is involved, and close to the same, even if they are alone. Puuure idjutz

[@deez2569]

One of those boys has ear gauges...they will make for nice handles for a certain type of inmate.

[@thexxit]

What a horror story. No punishment is severe enough for them. I'm so grateful Jaime survived and she looks strong. I wish her all the very best.

[@JNMKlover]

It's horrific. And it ruined many people's peace. But God will have the correct amount vengeance for Kimberly and Jamie.

[@MegaMisty57]

God bless Kimberly. May God give strength to David & Jaime. 🙏 I can’t begin to understand these four morons and their heinous actions. Very sad! 💔

[@cynthiahusband106]

This was a horrific murder , horrifying; thanks mike for the warning there are monsters who roam this world RIP to the mother who died so violently unbelievable.

[@antelopeanders6625]

When Jamie spoke at the end, just the few words she said you could immediately tell she is an absolutely awesome person.

[@RobinMarconeCassidyRN]

The part that burns me is these monsters not only took Jamie's Mom away from her at such a young, vulnerable age but they had absolutely zero remorse in the end. I'm just thankful Jamie had her Dad and other family members help her get through such a horrific ordeal. This certainly was very difficult to hear. Thank you Mike for sharing these stories but more importantly, you always have respect for the victims and their family members. 💗

[@Stevelives13]

Some people have fk'd up minds.

[@RobinMarconeCassidyRN]

@@Stevelives13 I couldn't have said it better

[@bbmtge]

I'm not even sure why testimony was needed from the other two in order to convict Spader and Gribble. The law in some states says that if you are there, you are as guilty of murder as anyone who actually commits said murder. Maybe NH is different. At least Spader and Gribble will never get out. Let's hope the parole board isn't lenient with the other two. In the end, they are all gutless cowards.

[@bunnymad5049]

@@Stevelives13 Aye!

[@mrsdelongchamp]

@Moon Cricket U R SICK

[@AlexPrestonMusic]

I spent 20 years growing up in Mont Vernon and went to high school with two of these monsters. I was in high school at Souhegan at the time. My mom worked for the Mont Vernon town hall and the police captain called us giving us the news, saying to lock our doors since they were not caught. Crazy to see Mike covering this. RIP Kimberly

[@nathanpayne3729]

That’s crazy dude👍god bless our Mike

[@paulwoodford1984]

You’re so lucky

[@flynick]

The importance of dogs should not be underestimated...this channel would have far less content if People understood this simple fact..

[@sonicmariogodzillakingkong1348]

Whoa! That’s mad! To know such animals is frightening…. Just hope they get looked after in prison….. Said nobody ever!

[@mandyD]

@alexPreston. Like your music. Don't be scared, may be true crime channel, but I am not a stalker 🤣😂. Just went to your profile and listened to a couple of songs. Nice stuff.

[@BoxOKittens]

As soon as I saw the quote I knew what this case was. It still makes me so mad how smug and tough he thought he was for sneaking up on a sleeping mom and her child. They're all cowards and I truly hope they get to meet real tough guys in prison.

[@dragonmaster9360]

I sincerely hope they meet very "well blessed" cellmates and become their loving wives, to be passed around for cigarettes and to pay their husband's poker debts for the rest of their worthless lives.

[@SoulforSale]

Unlikely

[@BoxOKittens]

@@SoulforSale callipygian

[@SoulforSale]

@@BoxOKittens oOoOo....yeah!

[@BoxOKittens]

@@SoulforSale lol

[@dreadpiratexx]

My cousin was one of the EMTs for this. He quit the week after. This event broke him.

[@kenw2225]

What did he think he was signing up for?

[@Kattycorner59]

Not this apparently

[@nancyayotte2297]

Wow . I'm sure that was very traumatic for him.

[@AbdullahHashi-kw3qj]

​@kenw2225 don't be a sarcastic prjck Ofcourse he knew he was signing up for harsh stuff, but a mom butchered infant of her daughter is way too much for many Something with the respondents to the carla nash chimp attack where her face was riped off The officer broke and had to leave, a hardened officer who saw all kinda violence but this chimp attack broke him

[@jking8025]

@@kenw2225This isn’t something that most emt’s come across. They might see shootings and suicides but to see a little girl and her mom hacked up with a machete as a whole different thing to see that idk if you can really prepare for mentally.

[@cookieplatz4998]

I can't imagine the last thoughts of terror for that mom. I'm glad the daughter survived. Thanks for your storytelling, Mike.

[@luv2luv720]

Her last thoughts were probably don't hurt my daughter 😔

[@chelseagruenwald]

@@luv2luv720 and she got her last begging prayer. she made it out in a heroic way.

[@kristinae.7084]

Wow, Jamie is a brave badass, surviving all that and then sitting in the front row of the courtroom! I hope she has had infinite love and support the rest of her life

[@poisonivy1985]

She’s amazing! Her Mother would be so proud of her.

[@breakfastsurreal5650]

I have two daughters,one who is Jamie's age when this story took place. It always makes these videos so much harder to watch when a victim is a girl around their age. Having said that, I was OVERJOYED to find out she survived. All my love to this girl. She is a thousand times tougher and more bad ass than all these little boys COMBINED. LOVE this little warrior. In the end She's the one who saw to it they paid for their cowardly actions.

[@markmike7933]

I don't know her but hopefully she doesn't have horrific nightmares every night for the REST OF HER LIFE

[@CaIiforniaL0VE]

Queen Jamie!! 👑✨ I read in a report that She pretended to be dead to get the Killers to stop their attack on Her. This smart little girl witnessed the horrific murder of Her own Mother & grew up to be a VICTOR not a Victim. The fact that she has such a positive outlook on Life after this event & is able to have Light shining thru Her eyes, makes me SO Happy!!! Wish Her a Life of Happiness & Healing! 🥰❤️

[@carmenbailey6694]

my sentiments as well. She is a beautiful person.

[@pinkyshoes22]

I truly second this and big pats on the back to her dad for bringing up such a sweet girl

[@marcr1884]

100% she is a warrior ♥

[@beautruex7012]

Yes God Bless this child!

[@Quizack]

So true Bob. She’s a fighter that’s for sure

[@tryingtomatch1059]

To the young man who told his mother; excellent job young man.

[@miss-nomer]

“She said in a whisper that she thought her mommy was dead.” Dammit, now I’m crying and need to go hug my kids.

[@chrisakaschulbus4903]

Get a hold of yourself. It's the oxytocin speaking... If you want some dopamin you also don't just blindly hump the next living thing, right?

[@Quizack]

Can I hug them too? I’m scared

[@littleshopofeldritchhorror6224]

I don’t have any can you hug them from me😢

[@janelbbuck]

I don’t have kids yet but this is making me want to go and hug my mom.

[@maddievictoria4947]

I read an article about this case, Kimberly used herself as a shield to protect her daughter - absolutely heart shattering. Im so glad that her mothers attempt did work and her daughter did ultimately survive this, a true miracle.

[@wpeniche]

You read wrong, Kimberly died on the bed with a pillow on her face.

[@annad9534]

😢😢😢

[@jabellatv3240]

Seriously technically Jaime should have not survived but just like her mom shielded her while being attacked one she was dead she was there to wake her baby up to call 911 like an guardian angel 👼 God Bless them both

[@georgevanaken925]

I went to H.S. with Kim. She lived about six houses away from me. She was a good person and I was shocked when this happened. So sad. I feel so sad for Kim’s husband who was away for business when this happened!

[@m.y.o.b.724]

Most likely he blamed himself for not being with his family when this happened. So sad!

[@normette]

I’m sure that her husband feels guilty for not being there. I’m sure that his wife is looking down and feeling happy he wasn’t there, because it meant that his daughter had a living parent to care for her during her recovery, support her during the trial, and help her emotionally heal from the trauma.

[@J916-h7p]

@@normette that was beautifully said, made me tear up

[@scottdavidson526]

That's messed up. Usually on these cases you can find a person or two in the comment section that actually knew the victims first hand.

[@georgevanaken925]

@@m.y.o.b.724 I never met him, as I got married and moved away first. But Kim was a wonderful person who must have married a good man. My prayers go out to her and her family. When I first heard about this, I wanted to do those evil kids harm…

[@Geno5]

Such a strong young lady. I think about when she has flashbacks to the night, It’s heartbreaking to think what she goes through. Thank you for sharing their story of survival.

[@patiencemckay6699]

I lived not even a mile away from this, the girl went on my bus, I went to school with her. Absolutely crazy to hear about this on your channel.

[@missmelbayer]

wow so 😢 sad

[@jennrodrigue0409]

Thank you for covering this horrific case. I’ve lived in NH my entire life and this case shocked the state. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer family. The only shining light is how amazing Jamie and her father are doing now. 💜

[@rydz656]

Can't feel bad for rich people.

[@VioletJoy]

I wouldn't wish murder on anyone, but when it happens to such kind people, there's an extra layer of heartache. 💔

[@SSubversive]

Ditto to OP

[@joannakneafsey1964]

❤

[@SSubversive]

@@rydz656 I think you don't have a good grasp on the meaning of "rich". In America there's poverty, just above poverty, scraping by with bills and then disgustingly wealthy. Look up the 90/10 and 99/1 distribution of wealth in the US. Regardless, fortunate people don't deserve to be murdered any more than than a beggar does.

[@isaacnation4116]

Hearing Gribble say that legitimately hardened criminals have “no idea who they’re messing with” is darkly hilarious when you consider the dude saying this failed to kill a sleeping 11-year-old. Disgusting people. Great vid Mike, as always. Love your work dude.

[@vinceo1058]

This, 100% this. 4 v 2. "Men" v a woman and a child. Heavily armed v sleeping. You're not going to have any of those advantages now, Princess.

[@isaacnation4116]

@@vinceo1058 all I could think was how weak they all looked. Definitely the type to need a numbers, weapons, size and state-of-consciousness advantage to do any damage to anybody. Maybe they are criminally insane? I’ve worked with dudes fresh out of jail before, and they’re all super nice guys, but weathered by their pasts, and tough as nails. Would eat these boys alive.

[@oldhickory4686]

Gribble would get his rear end handed to him before tomorrow morning.

[@blazeyfam]

It's just an attempt to manipulate them to say oh he's too dangerous can't be in there etc, a poor one

[@Quizack]

He’s going to get a big shock in prison. He’ll be in there unarmed with little twigs for arms and legs, versus full grown men that have multiple prison sentences under their belt where they’ve trained for years and had dozens of fights. He really doesn’t understand how it feels to be vastly outmatched by a career criminal with nowhere to run and no way to defend yourself except your own self

[@spidermonkey084]

These guys are seriously the worst of the worst, They litrally killed the weakest and most vulnerable and not only that they did it in a mob.

[@DekkarJr]

Birds of a feather flock together :/

[@DocBree13]

Jaime’s father made me cry - what a strong father and daughter - I hope they’re doing well

[@fredajordan5704]

Brenda I feel the same way these ppl. were good and productive innocent citizens and now they are put into a situation like this thru subhumans that should have gotten DP- Hope so much Jamie and her dad find some peace of mind somehow.

[@chrisakaschulbus4903]

@@fredajordan5704 In prison they might get DP... if you catch my drift.

[@MoonsideResident]

Agreed. it did my heart good to hear her at the end of the video, seemingly so happy. I can't even imagine the resolve and strength it takes to overcome such a horrific tragedy/experience. Here's hoping those absolute pieces of shite regret every day they have left on earth as payment for what they've done.

[@pooh9907]

one thing made me pause though is when he described his daughter's "perfect little body being mutilated", idk but the "perfect little body" sounds strange to me

[@hardkore918]

Same.

[@Steven_McCrae]

I just started crying when you said Jamie survived , what a fighter ! Godbless that girl , Can’t imagine loosing a parent in any worse of a situation? 😢RIP 🙏🏽 Kimberley Cates

[@sparkytuttle2966]

This is one story I wish I had never heard, no I wish that no human ever thought like these 4 monsters. I'm so thankful that Jamie survived and was surrounded by all the love she needed to grow up. I'm also thankful that I heard this story here, because your equal amounts of humor and compassion make it a bit easier to digest.

[@shamansmoon2294]

I feel the same way. Such a horrible thing these monsters did, without remorse.

[@TCthaCrisis]

People need to stop calling these cowards "monsters". They get off on you calling them that. They want to be seen as scary. Just look at their backgrounds. They are COWARDS.

[@user-ml8mx3bc2t]

@@TCthaCrisis cowardice monsters

[@TomLloyd-18]

As uncomfortable as it may make us to hear these details . . it's important to know that this stuff happens. Lock Your Doors . . . get a dog and an alarm system. Not a bad idea to purchase a firearm. Be Aware!

[@sparkytuttle2966]

@@TCthaCrisis , So you think all monsters are considered strong and powerful? That would be the way some people might perceive them. Having survived being kidnapped and having my neck broken, I never once thought of this man as strong. How any of us come at this kind of situation would be through our own perspectives and experiences. I consider the word monster to cover anything that is abhorrent to humanity, anything that could harm intentionally another person is a monster. For instance, wars are created by monsters. And wars create monsters. You see, I don't care what these bastards get off on. I don't care what their excuses are. I have zero sympathy for them. So, for me, I will call them what I want and I expect you to do the same.

[@lktzu2821]

Jamie's courage is commendable. Shine bright always Jamie. ❤️

[@DekkarJr]

She looks like she recovered well

[@debracook8859]

I can’t stop crying. How horrid. This has disturbed me more than any you’ve covered to date. How can a human…four humans be so inhumane? Incomprehensible.😳

[@RobinMarconeCassidyRN]

I agree, some of these stories are pretty devastating and thankfully, Jamie did survive this horrific ordeal. Poor kid lost her Mom though, I just can't even imagine.

[@someoneout-there2165]

They act exactly like some of the guys that follow me around my job harassing me. Basically they're weak and don't have a backbone and have to go along with the path of least resistance. People that are angry that this job will always be as good as it gets for them and rightfully so. ✌️

[@debracook8859]

@@someoneout-there2165 I feel ya. I’m a target too. 😣

[@klausfiedler64]

This is why the death penalty is fading away. Because too many nice people don't get it. There is trash out there that can not be redeemed. It's not about justice or revenge it's about proper and permanent disposal of garbage and hopefully sending a loud and clear message that this kind of behavior will not be tolerated.

[@ParisLavet]

It’s so crazy!!!!!

[@Jeckelman24]

"Easier to say where she wasn't stabbed" gave me shivers up my spine.

[@lisahinton9682]

12:05 "At which point Steven Spader said, 'At least I killed my bitch,' said the bitch." Mike, your humor, once again, always gets me. I love how you slip it in, and have moved on, almost before we can realize what you've just said. Clever boy, you are! Your videos are so well done. We love you, too, Mike!

[@pdiddy7607]

Glad you are trilled with this numpty

[@ari3lz3pp]

Thank God for Kyle also speaking out and not keeping it to himself. And thank God for that judge. The dad/husband had an amazing speech to give, and as a mother I'd be glad my husband could understand. That's what would be terrible is worrying for your child. Thankfully she survived! She looks so beautiful and happy as I'm sure her mother would want to know she would be again ❤️

[@HeatherHolt]

"i think my mommy is dead" jeezus man. gave me chills. poor family like wtf youre just having a normal night and this happens.

[@tlh0121]

Children are so resilient. It’s incredible how many of them make it out of the most horrific and sadistic of situations. I truly admire all of them, and especially Jamie, for their strength, determination, heart and will to live.

[@youwontrememberme]

@@Balletified Sadly so true.. we are actually the best at being in the trauma while it is happening because we have a defense system but once were back at a healthy enviroment thats when it all unravels, this girl will possibly have PTSD or some form of mental illness from what happened, I hope she griefs and heals well :(

[@chrisakaschulbus4903]

I guess it's because their brains aren't fully developed. They don't have that much context about the world so the terror is of a different nature as when you already know about sick stuff that can happen.

[@PeppySteps]

@@Balletified Which is why therapy is a must so she cam excercise healthy ways to cope with it.

[@cuntdork]

@@Balletified As someone who suffered from childhood trauma I can attest to this. I was put in therapy but I didn't really understand that there was an issue deep down inside so I don't really receive any benefits from it. Fast forward 15 years and I'm being diagnosed with PTSD for the events that transpired.

[@mauramiamor]

Growing up in NH, this story is still one I can never forget! That poor family😢

[@6AlphaMikeCharlie9]

Were they not in high security prison?

[@wendys390]

When you hear that the father of the one talked with his son about selling their story, you begin to get a glimmer of how a kid could get to where he could do something like that.

[@andysalter7192]

Maybe or he was trying to find money to pay for the lawyers ! That wouldn't have been cheap.

[@wendys390]

@@andysalter7192 If he didn't have the money, the lawyers would be provided. It just shows they have no shame.

[@kenw2225]

If you're ever charged with a serious crime and are appointed an attorney by the state, you're cooked. Not saying that your wrong about the dads morals being awful, but don't ever let your loved ones have a public defender represent them if you can help it. They will get a bad deal at best, max punishment at worst. Now , cases like this the max punishment is deserved. But there's other laws that aren't violent crimes that still bring heavy sentences. A court appointed attorney is about on par with a college kid who took a law course for a semester representing you

[@wendys390]

@@kenw2225 That's actually not true for all of them. It's always one's wish and best if one can hire private counsel, but I've been represented by some excellent public defenders. I was a defendant as well as a legal secretary. With the experience they have, if the case load isn't too huge they are lawyers the same as any other, they just happen to work for the State. What you say is "folk wisdom," but it isn't true in all cases. I just hate seeing all PD's get a bad rap like they do, and hate seeing defendants sweat it because they've got a PD instead of private counsel. Some of them are as good as any private counsel, truly.

[@davidschmidt2081]

​@wendys390 Public defense usually isn't a career choice so it makes sense that most of them are in the beginning years of their career. Sure, they're lawyers, but not "the same as anyone else". Some of them being good doesn't change that if you're going to court and you have the means, it's the smart choice to hire your own and not gamble.

[@SassySlater]

When he creepily says people have no idea how dangerous he is in jail. He really thinks he is gonna be some kinda bad boy in prison, my god he is gonna find out he is absolutely nothing and the men there won’t fear him at all. He will be brutalised over and over and he will have deserved every second of it for what he did to this mother and daughter!

[@brandymcnamee7880]

They'll probably keep him away from general population, in solitary or whatever. Unfortunately.

[@SassySlater]

@@brandymcnamee7880 they live in constant fear though. Which will hopefully bring the victims family some comfort!

[@mariapalladino2473]

Someone commented on here that it happened in his town and they’re not doing well in prison 😂 GOOD!

[@IllicitMediaproductions]

@@brandymcnamee7880 they will know what he did they won’t keep him separated for ever

[@tommymorgan4677]

@@IllicitMediaproductions I think you are right and I like your name " Bootleg Records " I`m a huge " Bottleg collector " 😆

[@LaurissaRai]

"Why are you doing this to us?" "Because you were home" Major "The Strangers" vibes...and my biggest nightmare

[@FrontlineArsenal]

HOLY SHIT!! I knew Gribble!! The kid in the thumbnail. He was apart of the ACA American cadet alliance, a boot camp preparing teens to join the military. He was in the army and I was in the marine cadets…he was just like private pile from full metal…I tried to be nice to him but he was just so sociably awkward and def seemed off…this is crazy..I have pictures with him in the back from the camp/boot camp

[@DamienDorsey1017]

Damn that’s crazy. What did you think when you saw that he did this? Just curious

[@emmashoesmith2882]

I'm in absolute shock at this unbelievable story. The evil out there is absolutely frightening. Jamie is one of the bravest people I've ever heard about. I hope she has the best life possible. This time Good really did win over Evil.

[@tessyredding5422]

That Jamie is living her life is what we should definitely focus on, these young men do not deserve to breathe the same air as her. We live in a evil world, stay safe everyone

[@sylwianilsson7618]

What a beautiful young woman she has become. She's got such a beautiful smile despite the horror she's been through.

[@susanelaine1644]

30 year nurse here, live so close to this story that my town showed up on the site map...having worked 13 years in a Massachusetts State prison, I saw offenders live quite a good life...gym, library, exercise yard, music building, television, radio, family visits, mail, and of course immediate health care that many of us WISH we could access....It kills me that these creeps will be able to feel the sun on their faces, see beautiful skies, sunsets, enjoy good food (yes they are well fed) and form friendships....none of which their victims will experience. Our system of 'justice' is too kind. And it was all made worse by what I saw as rare true remorse for their crimes.

[@larrysmith2655]

I hope that little girl has a full recovery. I know she's physically okay but mentally as well. And as a young adult, she makes the most of life!

[@FunkyFae57]

Frog me swinging! This one must of been really hard to research Mike, please look after your mental health. It's astonishing how little life meant to these little froggers, I can't imagine how much the town changed after this. Thanks for sharing Mike, you are really appreciated, much love from Australia

[@OneBlueFroggy]

What is frog me swinging ? And why do you call these killers little froggers ? They are anything but cute little froggers. Just trying to understand your reasoning behind it. 🤔 ✌️🇨🇦

[@FrostAndTheForest]

@@OneBlueFroggy I don't think you know what a frogger is... Check the Urban dictionary ;).

[@Hatewontwin]

@@OneBlueFroggy I didn't see the word cute when he said it. Australia man. They roll and talk different. It was just lingo for little punks. Somethin like that. Lol

[@TerminatorToo]

At first, I was like, what in the actual frog does that mean? Then ‘froggers’ made it easy to deduce what you were croaking on about ;)

[@myunknownland9272]

@@Hatewontwin as an Aussie, there is no frogger as a slang word but there is a croaker=saying a lot but with no meaning!

[@nahsik]

As a nurse this hits even harder hearing a fellow sister who gave so much to her community being cut down by parasites of society. These people need to be rubbed out.

[@fireboigotti2647]

*as a nurse* lmfao well *as a firefighter* shut da fuq up

[@sisiscastle3573]

Rubbed completely out. They don’t deserve to breath the air of those of who manage to not hurt our fellow man

[@chrisakaschulbus4903]

This world produces them as much as it does nice people. Those people don't just show up like though some interdimensional portal. Prisons aren't build because we think that at one point all the criminals are gone.

[@BandHful]

Same, nurse here..we've seen & experienced some traumatic things but my most favorite to see/witness is when a child(ren) not only survive physically but also pulling through & coming out the other side of verbal, mental, & emotional abuse &/or trauma. Some don't do so well & its heartbreaking 💔 😢

[@theblackchrisjenner1601]

YES! Death penalty worthy! They should never get out! There sentences discuss me!

[@retroconservativeswirlerso6609]

You made a great point, Mike, no dog, no alarm. I’ve always had a loyal dog and plenty of guns and always suggest others to have the same. Hannibal, my German Shepard is the best guard dog I’ve ever had! ❤

[@TheEmerald524]

I have two Great Danes, there’s a German Shepherd and a Doberman mix. That’s about 450ish pounds of K9, and I’m far more frightening than anyone stupid enough to cross my threshold uninvited. Especially if they hurt one of my fur babies in the process

[@DizzKola3]

That one killer, Chris, has such a punchable face. How the father/ husband didn’t jump over the gate is amazing to me. It’s so good to see that the girl is dong well.

[@Leeza3370]

He tried to make himself sound smart and all he did was look like an even more of a POS!

[@HumanHamCube]

"Your Honor, my client is clearly not of sound mind. A sane person would never choose that stupid haircut for himself"

[@SonMakesMeShine]

I live in a small town in New Hampshire not far from Mont Vernon, and this incident put fear in my heart like no other. I NEVER leave doors and windows unlocked specifically because of what happened that night. I remember this mom and daughter every night as I walk around the house ensuring all points of entry are locked.

[@nickyblue4866]

Why would anyone leave their doors or windows unlocked at night?! What would be the point of that???

[@Celeste.Martel]

@@nickyblue4866 back in the days like my parent's and grandparent's, they didn't lock the doors because it wasn't as dangerous as it is today and kids used to play outside before computers existed and spent all day long outside so they didn't lock the doors because they felt safe and it was a way of life. Nowadays and since I would say the mid 70s, the crime rate jumped, and people know by fact that they have to lock their doors. It's a different world, I guess...

[@randalthor6872]

Always have an alert dog and ALWAYS have quick access to a life-saving firearm. This case is so heartbreaking : (

[@828enigma6]

Thats great, but you need an alarm system and/or a dog. And means to defend yourself and I'm not speaking about a blunt or edged weapon. I'm speaking of a firearm of some sort. And the will to use it.

[@NIGHT_CORE_]

Me 2. Door + window alarms. Outside motion detector lights/alarms are a good deterrent

[@Sorchia56]

I’m so glad you showed the daughter, smiling. She’s a warrior! Christopher is learning that the inmates are far worse than him, I’m sure. Humans scare me. I’d rather face a pack of wolves. Brilliant costume, Mike!! Cheers. I’m sure to sleep well now with that wee bedtime story!

[@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307]

I hope those other inmates are suffering too. Theres a bigger fish.

[@user-ml8mx3bc2t]

@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 you seem to be one of, wait Molly K your creativity amazes me, keep the live of Mike flushed with $$$,

[@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307]

@@user-ml8mx3bc2t What are you talking about?

[@KitsuneRokaku]

I hope that "kid" (I don't care how old he is, he is a child who won't take responsibility for what he's done) is getting beaten on a regular basis or is getting passed around for routine gang bangs. Hope they're all getting tortured in the worst way for what they did.

[@DabbaHashery]

Wolves rarely attack humans. There's only been a handful of incidents in the last 100 years. They are more afraid of humans as well.

[@samschmidt8772]

I've watched a lot of true crime videos and none of them got to me like this one did. And that is because this is my home town. I remember when this happened. I went to school with Jamie, though I was a few grades below her and didn't really know her. I remember how on edge the town was after what happened. If you look at the google maps images, it's a pretty isolated town. You've got a pretty good amount of trees between you and your neighbor unless you're on a culdesac really. I remember going to pick up my sister from a friend's house the day after this happened when my dad hear about it. And this friend lived very close to the Cates house. My dad had me look out the window as we were driving and tell him if I saw anyone in the woods. I didn't know it was because the murderers were still lose at the time but I was on edge. I remember when Jaime came back to school. She was in a wheelchair. She had scars on her face and her one foot was all bandaged up and she just looked like she'd been through hell. We all knew what had happened and her first day back pretty much the whole school during morning recess, while waiting for school to start, was around Jaime Cates at one point or another. She had her group of friends with her, one of them pushing her chair, and I remember she was smiling. Despite what happened, I think that the support of her friends, and the entire little elementary school, was really helpful. The whole town was there to support the Cates family, and most of the surrounding towns too. Mont Vernon is a very small town. You don't really hear about it outside of local news about local events or artisans. With two exceptions. This case, which is the thing that my sweet little home town has unfortunately become the most known for outside of southern NH, and that Alex Preston who came in 3rd on American Idol was from here. It's a close-knit little town. This case touched everyone because we just don't get this sort of crime there. And it saddens me that this will be all that some people will ever know about my wonderful little home town.

[@TheBffTwins]

Wow. This was intense! Very sad and tragic. God bless the momma who passed, the little girl who survived and all the family and community affected. Thanks Mike. Great coverage!!

[@shannonjackson9778]

This one really got me. This whole situation is basically my worst fear, that someone could enter my home and harm my children while I'm powerless to stop them. It is absolutely incredible that Jamie survived and I am so happy that she seems to be living a good life now. These 4 never deserve to experience any sort of freedom again, they're simply monsters and cowards.

[@JNMKlover]

Ur home should be safe. Regardless of where u live. It is the fear of every loving parent.

[@especiallyabsent]

It’s definitely scary but the reality is if someone were to harm you or your children it would probably be someone you know… I’m not sure which is scarier 😳😟 Comment next year so we know you’re safe!

[@Jesus.H.Christ93]

That's why we keep a gun on the nightstand.

[@bambinaforever1402]

@@Jesus.H.Christ93 prey u do not aggravate your spouse or your child then before u fall asleep

[@bambinaforever1402]

@@Anthony-jd3mu the stupidest saying ever. I have a neighbour with idiotic barking dog. She said guess what one summer night we weee sleeping and s9neone sneaked in and stole my bag with money. I said come f on, u have the stupidest barking dog, surely he should have woken u up. She said it was sleeping through the hole thing. Her husbnad actually woke up when thieves dropped smth and was chasing them down the street. Which was stupid as well.

[@jamiekeeler3746]

This happened two towns over from me. It rocked all of NH and still remains a sore spot, but I appreciate you telling the story respectfully.

[@Biggunz249]

This happened like a day or two after I moved to Mont Vernon, it was crazy. I remember cruising and passing by the house with the police still present. I’m glad the little girl survived and I hope she’s doing good these days.

[@csh43166]

What a horrific crime. It's the real monsters we have to worry about, not the pretend ones. The real ones lurk and you don't always see them. Jaime is an amazing, strong young woman; it's good to see she's doing as well as possible. RIP, Kimberly... 😢🌹

[@catherinepatterson9074]

I'm grateful to hear the little girl, Jamie, survived such a diabolical attack. I am also happy to hear the sentences for psychopaths, and I hope they never, ever walk amongst society again. As usual Mike, great job telling such a horrible story & love you to unknown storyteller.💙

[@xopinkieox]

I cant imagine how jamie felt seeing her mom murdered. Im legit crying for her. This is way too heartbreaking

[@blumusdu]

I think this is the only channel I watch where the person doesn't try to sell me something every few minutes. I really appreciate that. Thank you Mike for your great content.

[@realmissrosenoir]

This is just incredibly sad. Some people are beyond help, as much as I hate to say that. That poor family and what they went through. May Kimberly's memory be a blessing. 💖🕯️I hope that little girl is doing better now.

[@snicker576]

Why do you "hate" to admit that these despicable monsters are beyond help? I'm just wondering

[@ShalomShalom-d5c]

I think bc if we REALLY know they are beyond help, they need to be extinguisged bc theres no point in feeding them. Too bad we dont take cues from the animal world.

[@melissamccleary9611]

She is doing better. Did you watch til the end?

[@qv43v]

@@ShalomShalom-d5c exactly. They have no purpose on this earth.

[@ayesha.14]

🤲

[@flowergirl4612]

Poor Jamie. I don't understand how people can kill people like this. To kill someone as they scream and plea for help, it's heartbreaking. I couldn't imagine, specially harming a child. The monsters in horror movies aren't even as scary as human beings. The things that we are all capable of, it's terrifying.

[@moomyung9231]

They were right to call themselves psychopaths. They literally don''t feel for their victims, their lives have no value to them outside of what they can gain.

[@LaceyLace_]

This is why I can't watch any movies where people are tortured and scream in pain, such as the Saw series. I'll watch all the ghosts, demon possessions, werewovles and vampire films but no torture films.

[@donnawentz2221]

I would love to see Chris, after bragging about being so tough the inmates have no idea who they’re messing with, say that to other guys locked down with him 😂. Especially knowing he tried to kill a young girl. 🤬

[@SoulforSale]

Not in Berlin. It's kiddy camp.

[@ThehulkGreen]

He would be at home in Parliament here in the UK.

[@MarinkaSea911]

Haha yup Mike said at the end that “Chris was complaining about the conditions in prison” you just know hes being pushed around in prison haha

[@YourM0MinAcan]

I’ve just recently found TC, & this is the first episode that’s made me feel physically sick. I’ve been a true crime fan for 30 years. Love your videos Mike! 😊This is the only channel I actively seek out on KZbin, keep up the good work👍

[@TTOS69]

Man that's absolutely disturbing that there's probably alot more people like them in this world... they've just yet to act or get caught.

[@tillitsdone]

They can't get caught until they act, unfortunately. Parents have to first see, and second, do something when their kids are into deranged stuff. And these kids were for a long time.

[@KathyHussey063]

@@tillitsdone Yes they do, they need to pay attention to their kids or they won't see it when their thinking takes a bad turn. My own kid, meek, mild, sweet (up until that moment, I'd always THOUGHT) at 14 shocked me totally by saying something I NEVER expected to hear. If I hadn't been regularly spending enough time with him so that I'd noticed the mood changes in him back then and then took the time to diligently press him for what the problem was, I don't know what he may've done over his extreme jealousy over a girl (whom he'd never told he liked). He had rage simmering in there. Young people are very short sighted, they've no idea how long 15 to 30 years in jail is or LIFE. They're full of hormones that are kicking in and usually lack the vital ability to handle their emotions or think logically, once emotions take over. They've been broughtt up in the 1sr generations to experience life in a culture that's seeping with graphic violent images, stories, news about horrific violence coming at them 7/24's in every media. Their surging hormones & OTHER teens, peer pressure, have great sway over them too. So all parents better pay enough attention to their teens, young adults so they can try to avoid the day they have to know one of their kids did something like this and watch as their lives are flushed down the toilet and the incredible guilt they'll feel if they could've stopped such a thing from happening. Granted, it's not always possible to know they are going to do something like this, which is all the more horrifying so get your underage kids all the help they need and guide them well all their lives. Scared me to death, still scares me, that, 18 years ago, had I missed the warning signs or ignored them that my treasured son probably would've done an absolutely senseless act of violence, thinking that would solve his problems.

[@Matthew...1979]

Genius intro... After all the videos you've made you still seem to keep each new entry feeling fresh, yet familiar. Thanks for all you do!

[@cmnatic3953]

Being a victim of a home invasion while you're there is my absolute worse nightmare. I can't imagine how Kate felt in her last moments. Very scary -- absolute sick these lot

[@kimmyfreak200]

i watched a lot of the trial footage... absolutely horrifying what kimberly went through...and she was a good mom she saved her daughter by taking most of the blows... it reminded me of colette from the jeffrey macdonald case throwing her body over her daughter like a shield...so incredibly evil i can't even put into words

[@Mimi2thebestboysever]

Where did you watch the trial footage? I'd like to see it myself.

[@rootingforyou]

Jamie is a hero! I’m from NH and this is the first time I’ve heard her 911 call. I think about her and this case, whenever I’m home alone with the kids. ❤

[@katie_jeanes]

Wow, I feel so horrible for poor Jamie. To not only go through that much pain, watch her mom be murdered right infront of her. But it happened in the one place where you’re supposed to be able to feel 100% safe. I can only assume that she has problems falling asleep at night because of this. May God bless her and let her find peace again someday soon.

[@daisymaisy4877]

You're absolutely right Katie, its the stuff of nightmares and i wouldn't be surprised if she did have severe anxiety about bedtime .Peace out✌

[@mikejarbury4699]

I was locked up in valley street jail Manchester on unit 1c with marks......gribble and spader were in other separate units. Anytime they had court or were being transported the entire jail went on lockdown. But I actually talked to marks and as much as I wanted to gets my hands on him I had to know why and how could anyone do something so horrible. He(marks) was on closed custody or adseg so he was locked down 23/7. It still gives me chills just thinking about it. Spader and gribble got what they deserve not long after entering NHSP. God bless the girl and her father and RIP Mrs Cates.

[@tiffanylouise8705]

These stories are all really sad but this one definitely hit me a bit harder than others. The poor little girl in the phone call, just in pure shock in what had happened. Didn’t even say her mom was dead or that she herself was hurt. Heartbreaking. I’m relieved that emergency services got to her and saved her. Not only for herself but her poor father as well. I always hope that when people are being stabbed or injured that the adrenaline and shock takes over so they don’t feel anything…even though it’s extremely horrific and won’t be something survivors will ever be able to forget. Jamie is brave and her not only surfing this brutal attack but also going to court speaks volumes of her strength and resilience.

[@AdminAbuse]

Surfing?

[@kayleighcourt2127]

This is by far the best true crime KZbin channel! Thankyou from the UK 🇬🇧

[@richardhurts5]

I lived in Nashua when this happened. My wife made the news as we were in buying my first hand gun right after this went down. Needless to say I wasn't the only one bearing arms as guns were flying off the shelves. Thanks for covering this story Mike

[@defeatignorance8681]

It breaks my heart thinking of all the victims of violent crime that lost their lives because they didn't have the tools to fight back. People that demonize firearms are horrible people that often have private security and live in gated communities. I wish more people knew that between 500,000 and 3,000,000 people in the US every year save their own lives by being armed. A gun is just a tool and the more good people that have them the worse off the bad people are. Better to have one and not need it than to need one and not have it. Everyone thinks they are safe until it happens to them. We need to realize the world is evil. It always has been and it always will be. Disarming the good guys only empowers the evil ones.

[@rachelrach1153]

The dead was prob a liberal

[@n-as1012]

@@defeatignorance8681 well, i'm british and as far as i'm concerned americans need to be less armed, not more armed. i do have sympathy for people who genuinely feel they live in a high crime area and need to protect themsleves. I'm glad I don't feel the need to own a gun and that the police who go out into communities aren't armed with guns.

[@HB-yg3ke]

@@n-as1012 yeah, I always thought that too until the grocery store down the street from my home was shot up. You don’t know the fear of shopping at the mall, or going to school and the lengths you’d take to feel safe and try to keep your children safe. The people who aren’t supposed to have weapons will always get them no matter if further “gun control” laws go into affect here or not, we would be left unprotected against those carrying illegally. It’s too far gone. The government is responsible for allowing these weapons to circulate so at this point protecting yourself in equal to the offenders is really the only choice. A knife or mace isn’t going to help you when someone points an assault rifle at you in the library or grocery store - I’m not some gun totin’ ‘merican for you all to stereotype over there either. You have no idea how scary it is and your opinion is unasked for until you’ve experienced what it’s like for your children to have to learn how to play dead or identify every emergency exit at the store because you need tampons and can’t avoid going inside despite all efforts. Just some perspective before you judge Americans for being out of options.

[@Quartzteamrealty]

@@n-as1012 everyone says this until it happens to them. Come back to me when someone breaks in your house and it’s you Vs them with no police in sight for 5-10 minutes. Sorry I’m not betting my life and my wife and kids lives on someone else I don’t even know to come to save us. If anyone breaks into my house to try and attempt something like this they will be met with an AR-15 and 30 rounds of lead

[@gonufc]

"They don't know how dangerous I am"... I bet that super villain act lasted about 20 seconds when he saw he was a puny teenager up against hardened criminals who actually know how to fight.

[@kimberlypoole5325]

Jamie, you are a hero. I am so sorry for your loss. I am sorry for what you went through.

[@brightmoon7132]

Excellent choice Mike! It's ironic, considering most people are killed by someone they know, but cases like this one are the murders that really scare people the most. So happy the daughter survived. And so relieved the monsters will never get out of prison. Happy Halloween to Mike and everyone 🏵

[@Primitive_dad]

I remember this vividly, living in southern NH. At the time I was delivering medical equipment and had to bring something to their house. Having a small daughter at the time I recall being a bit emotional about it on the drive over, thinking about what they were going through. I wish them the best.

[@nauticalnausicaa7790]

Oh my god. I wasn't expecting to see a story on your channel about this. This is an uncomfortably close to home case, and the first time I'm hearing the full deal of it outside of looking it up myself. In honour of divorcing this feeling in my belly, Mike-- please know you have been discovered to be a time traveller and have played in the band Tears For Fears. I saw a music video for the song that goes, "something happened/now I'm head over heels" and it's either the guitarist or bassist, I don't remember which.

[@Samurai78420]

This is absolutely despicable. I'm familiar with this case, but I wanted to hear how Mike would deliver it. Christopher's attitude in court was just infuriating. People like that deserve the worst that suffering has to offer, drawn out over a lengthy period of time. In my opinion

[@cutepanda1026]

Mike, you always know how to make it easier to hear these horrible stories, my heart bleeds for the victims. Thank You, You are amazing at your job.

[@DH1984-d7d]

I remember emailing Mike about this case, months ago. Glad he's covering it. I've lived in NH all my life, and this was probably the most gruesome murder ever committed here. It made national news.

[@Redwhiteandtired]

Nice user name.

[@thepanpiper7715]

Considerate of you to your powers for good on this ocassion, O Lord of darkness and misery.

[@lorraineaylward8167]

Thanks for recommending this case. I stumbled on Christopher Gribbles testimony one night when looking for something else. Good to have Mike give a broader perspective

[@kimmyfreak200]

same here...i was surprised he never did it before... i emailed him about it before he did the other thrill kill cases

[@lauracook8203]

That William Marx character looks like an even creepier version of a young Phil Spector 🤭 Good job as usual, Mike. Happy Halloween! 🧡🖤🧡🖤

[@Jeremy-th5pt]

No other crime show compares to Mike's editing, timing, humor, and info. Best true crime channel ever! 👍

[@RayRae559]

One of the best parts about my job is being able to watch/listen to That Chapter! Thanks for the amazing work Mike.

[@jedwards1792]

I want your job

[@45kimmyb]

Thanks for doing this one Mike. I recommend it a while back. As a corrections officer I had to deal with Gribble in prison. He's a real weirdo, Creepy Chris for sure. I always say that's a woman's worst nightmare, to be home alone and have lunatics break in with evil intent.

[@intrepidtomato]

He is immensely creepy just in the video, can't imagine what he is like in person.

[@45kimmyb]

@@intrepidtomato He sure is, I was so happy the day he got fired from the kitchen job so I didn't have to supervise him any more.

[@lesliemartin3]

I'm so glad you are covering this case. I cannot wait to hear the jabs you might have stored up for that cheeky lad who looks like he'd cry at the drop of a hat. Like seriously, what a freaking tool.

[@ChesireHeart]

That poor girl, I’m glad she has her father. She’s going to need as much support as possible

[@loriwiggins3892]

Oh, my gawd. I had to look away. What is WRONG with people?? That poor family. This one left me angry and heartbroken. You're telling me no one recognized these kids as dangerous? It's just sick. This must have been a very difficult one to cover, Mike. Well done with what can only be described as monstrous.

[@leigha2814]

It's always the ones you most expect... if you actually care to look. The problem is, when it's white boys, until they actually permanent delete someone it's "boys will be boys, tee hee!"

[@dr.floridaman4805]

Kids are groomed, taught to do these things. Load them up with medications and you got mkultra scenario.

[@themischief420]

@@dr.floridaman4805 that's literally not how mkultra worked. it specifically involved giving people lsd, abusing, brainwashing and programming them. putting someone on meds isn't gonna do SHIT close to that

[@Bettinasisrg]

My point exactly, society has been groomed to think nonviolent drug users (notice no drug using by these guys) are demons, and if I say my neighbor is doing drugs SWAT will bust the door down yet someone says their friend is talking about killing and EATING people and nothing is done??!!! And the one kid had been diagnosed so they knew he was dangerous?!! Society needs to realize that we need to go after violence not nonviolence!!

[@carbine090909]

@@dr.floridaman4805 only one kid was on meds and he was off them at the time. no one was groomed, you're using that word out of context.

[@hmh4951]

God, this case is haunting. What happened to those two souls and how cruel and cold those boys are…sickening

[@michaelrivard4879]

Hello Mike, it is unbelievable about human behavior sometimes. This is why your information that you disseminate is so vital to humanity. Please keep up the good work look forward to your next piece. We love you

[@callmepleatherface7535]

Just found the channel tonight through this video randomly popping up. Now, it's 5 AM as I continue to go through your old videos, lol. Love the channel! You are amazing at telling a story.

[@JohnRiversOfficial]

tell that to @skeetlejuice

[@vt-yp7yq]

Never heard about this case. Mike, you never disappoint. Thank you.

[@drill4206]

You got the best channel around! You are great at the delivery and research! You should look in Harold laundry of Louisiana..Louisiana let him walk on his crime to go on and get convicted overseas for the worst crime a person can do. ( trying to keep it clean and not ruin anything for anyone wanting to look into it) my father was best friends with his brother. Crazy

[@ginger7344]

Wow that’s crazy. Hope he sees your comment and checks it out.

[@laratheplanespotter]

Come and join us on Patreon! There’s a case suggestion form on the discord :)

[@ginger7344]

yes! He only charges $2 and is quite responsive there

[@angelab904]

Laundry or Landry?

[@Celeste.Martel]

Seriously, I don't understand how Mike has less than 2M subscribers when he clearly deserves alot more!

[@Snarl_Marx]

Good news is he's well on his way!

[@mikdamoose1622]

I couldn't agree more. Mike is one of a kind.

[@6AlphaMikeCharlie9]

Do some more y that's not enough

[@WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey]

@Frank Lee 😳

[@Wings_of_foam]

Oh shut up.

[@changeintheair9648]

18:41 Spader asking his attorney to get jury to sing him 'happy birthday.' Incredible.

[@serahaidan1955]

Thank you for doing this. I’ve been asking several KZbinrs to do this story. This happened the next town over from me. It was heartbreaking.