The Horrifying Case of John & Sarah Makin

[@Flamsterette]

Thanks for the upload, Brief Case! I remember hearing about this one. Happy Halloween 2023!

[@serenitynow288]

How could anyone do this to innocent little babies? It’s just beyond me. Well told once again. May those little souls rest in peace.

[@K-Mariposa]

I have no words. Poor babies and their poor desperate mothers 😞 Thanks for sharing BC.

[@dianeruiz0721]

All too common in that time with the poor starving souls. It’s complete madness, the entire society and their “rules” about unwed mothers.

[@luciebrisson5881]

These two were monsters, offering to help people desperate to provide for their children only to kill the vulnerable, helpless, innocent babies for money. It's outrageous that Sarah Jane was released early for health reasons. It was much more than she deserved. Thank you Brief Case for this story. It was horrifying but respectfully told.

[@Stephan-bj3lh]

She should have had the death penalty,the silent partner in this horror story.

[@kerrywatts5740]

Only one of these two people got the punishment they deserved! They starved even their own children! What a gut-wrenching thing to happen to those babies. What incredible research you've done on this episode! Heartbreaking as it is, those babies are playing at the feet of God. Thank you Brief Case!!!

[@alanaadams7440]

Thank God all those children are in heaven now

[@Carolbearce]

This was a horrible time and so sad that these innocent babies were treated as unwanted and not supported by the fathers.

[@annehorrigan570]

My Grandmother was born in 1892. Her sisters in 1890 & 1895ish (Michigan, USA). Her mother passed when they were all young, they were lucky they had family that could help, I can't imagine putting my child with demons like this.

[@anthonym715]

YES GOD! BECAUSE THESE TWO WERE FROM THE HEARTLESS LEGION OF DEMONS that came through their souls and took it over.

[@StacyL.]

Thank you for our weekly dose of Brief Case! What a grim outlook for small children at the turn of the century due to baby farming! it was a transcontinental epidemic. It's sickening that the children had to be exposed to such people and conditions due to their parent's financial or social disadvantages. Mr. Makin's lack of remorse and nonchalant demeanor is chilling to say the least. 😟

[@toscadonna]

Still happens except the government is now paying for it with our tax money.😢

[@veroniquejeangille8248]

It was not always due to financial or social disadvantages. I remember, when reading about the life of St Theresa of Lisieux (France), that her mother was unable to breastfeed and had to resort to wetnurses. They would be in the countryside while the family lived in town, so visits were infrequent. During one visit, they realised that their son was gravely undernourished but unfortunately it was too late to save him. The parents were devastated. I was very shocked that such a thing could happen but after this video I realise that it was sadly quite common

[@melinalack6224]

Why show mercy for Sarah who murdered children, but show no mercy for the poor women who had babies and felt there was no other option than to give their children away or face the scorn of society?? I've heard so many stories like this, and I feel so bad for the women who were shamed and cut out from their families. I believe they thought they were doing what was best, and never wanted any harm to come to their babies. Where are the fathers of these kids!? The women are always to blame.

[@zachpeat5076]

Cause she’s a woman

[@christineburke3602]

I Totally Agree with You.

[@kathyjones1576]

I agree. Unfortunately, that's the way "polite society" was then.

[@minilea144]

​@@kathyjones1576exactly, it's a sign of the times. Men can't get pregnant so there's the pass for no responsibility. Also paternity tests weren't a thing so even if the mom could identify the father, all he had to do was deny and persuade others that she was "loose" which put doubt on paternity. Worse, if they were rich, they could throw the mom in an institution and send the kid away like one president did. Can't remember his name but he married a girl he was basically a father to. Even stated when the girl was eight, he was gonna wait to marry her. He...was a gross guy.

[@fatalberti]

100% correct

[@doloresboston8571]

Why does she get to spend time with her family? She and the husband took the money willingly never intending to actually (nor lovingly) care for any one of those babies. Since she escaped the death penalty, her jail sentence should have been for as long as those babies would be dead.

[@thatguyjoe007]

Because it was a man's world.

[@MinaOmega]

Because if they kept her, her medical bills would have been on the government. So, shall we say she had... cancer... this is saving the government money and making her and her family responsible for her final days and her final bills.

[@anthonym715]

PRECISELY!!!

[@anthonym715]

@@MinaOmega Which means that everything is still about saving and making a dollar not actually caring and empathizing with our fellow man. This is what is going to be the downfall of humanity - Our ability to get alone, respect each other's boundaries and love one another as we would love ourselves.

[@pimpozza]

Difficult story to listen to, 😢 but you told it with great empathy, BC💼... Those poor little babies.. the cruelty some people are capable of is mind-boggling.. Excellent presentation, albeit a very heartbreaking case..👍

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thankyou

[@lindanolan9542]

Brief Case, you should do a story on the home for unwed mothers run by nuns. Which one, I’ll have to look up. But the one I read about, they unearthed a mass grave of babies. Horrible! I was in one of those hideous facilities/ concentration camp. It was like being in hell.💀

[@parasite674]

😢. What was horrible too was that the employers (and likely fathers of their children) of domestic servants refused to support their employees' children. They made "baby farming" a necessity.

[@59tante]

💯

[@kathrynbillinghurst188]

😢smh🤦‍♀️ I’m actually afraid that times are devolving again to this sad state of affairs…although we’re in ‘23! 🫤

[@59tante]

Sadly fact...sex trafficking

[@parasite674]

@@59tante What does that have to do with what I wrote?

[@Thezors]

@@parasite674It is possible that one of the reasons these young women/girls were brought into the household as a servant was to serve their employer (likely though coercion and/or without their consent) in that matter.

[@pafarmgirl9519]

This story hurts my very soul. Those poor mothers were looking for love and stability for their babies and these people, who did these horrible crimes only carried about the all mighty dollar. Money truly is the root of all evil. Heartbreaking

[@internetfairy1]

Misquote here! The love of money is the root of all evil. Money itself is neither good nor bad.

[@Tina06019]

Lack of sufficient money leads to many terrible things: in particular, hunger and unstable access to decent housing.

[@johnburns2940]

If ever I had to identify my son's tiny shirt, with the blue waves, and sail boat, I would surely lose my mind.

[@rosemaryfranzese317]

Thank you for posting this and thank you for turning off the sound of the advert, I hope this won’t put you at a disadvantage. This case illustrates how juries can be influenced. John Makin was clearly a despicable man and his demeanour in court did him no favours. Sarah had to live with this awful man and that may have an impact on her and her distress during the trial seemed to have caused the jury to have pity on her. I don’t think she deserved the early release from prison, she had shown no mercy to the poor babies. I feel sorry for the babies and their mothers.

[@brendaholliday6866]

I'm familiar with "baby farming," as I have read and seen programming about it. There were a lot of people including this despicable couple the Makin's who took in innocent babies for financial gain, only. I have the utmost compassion for the young unmarried mothers who had to give up their babies because of society's morals. May the souls of these precious babies rest in eternal peace. 🌹 Great investigating, presentation, historical information, back stories, illustrations and photos, too.

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks Brenda

[@kenya1067]

Thank you for this comment. Idk why I thought they were paying the mothers. The way someone would pay a surrogate. So I was confused a bit. But this fixes what I was thinking. This is so sad.

[@WhitneyAllisonGG]

​@@kenya1067the pay for the mothers actually isn't enough for one person to live on. Women at the time supplemented low wages with sex work to have a full stomach and shelter. Children out of wedlock made it impossible for women to get work outside of the sex trade. It is better to prevent a pregnancy or even abort a child because there no support for the child to be productive member of society. Even now children are still very expensive and men don't really understand that. In the US there's 400000 children in the Foster care with no chance of adoption or successful life.

[@AnthonyWilliams-ew3wp]

My mother was one of ten children raised in poverty in Tottenham. She was born in 1940 and died in 2007. Around ten years before she died, it was discovered that there were in fact eleven children but my grandmother gave one away without any legal paperwork, to a neighbour. This aunt of mine had emigrated to Canada as a child. Her return to the U.K. was something of a surprise as you can imagine. I expect it still happens in poor communities today.

[@perrydowd9285]

Hi BC & B Cat, Two things occurred to me while listening to this. Firstly, this must be about the umpteenth case of baby farm serial killing I've seen, and secondly that I had never heard of this kind of crime before I joined KZbin. Great work as always. Thanks guys. 😸👍

[@CjJohnson-kf1oz]

My goodness doesn't anyone read any more?

[@toscadonna]

The worst thing about stories like this is that CPS is supposed to protect children these days, and it seems no matter what we do, many children go unwanted and abused. So many children are abused, graped, go missing, and are even unalived whilst in CPS custody. No matter the time, children are playing the lottery just being born in any century.

[@thisravenhasflown010]

Apologies but was there a CPS then? Also parents are supposed to be the protectors of children. If parents are handing them over to strangers, ... I am confused how you start blaming others

[@hollymorris785]

I'm running a bit late today, but ready for my weekly dose of historical true crime! Thanks Brief Case!🙂

[@andreamiller9195]

Even if I have heard about the person or people you cover in your videos, I always learn something new from your work. Your writing is detailed and thorough. Always looking forward to the next one.

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

thanks, I appreciate that!

[@maymellor7592]

Terrible times indeed. How awful a person must be to murder innocents for a living. Love your work BC❤

[@seandelap8587]

Who honestly could do that to such young children words can't describe just how evil it is

[@pannamal5182]

Happens every day but legally by abortion

[@veroniquejeangille8248]

Without justifying in any way those crimes, we have to remember that, in that time, babies and small infants were thought to be only capable of eating and sleeping. The fact that small children are capable of emotions and therefore emotional trauma is very recent. Even in the second part of XXth century, children were commonly operated without anesthetics as it was assumed by "science" that they could not suffer as their nervous system was not yet fully developped.

[@ChildfreeMatto]

It is a misty, dreary Monday morning here in South-Central Pennsylvania. 😕 I'm always greatful Brief Case, to have another excellent video from your channel to enjoy. 😊 Thank you soo much! 🤗

[@Oonagh72]

Good Morning! I have decided “far from industrious” will be my new favorite insult.

[@chantelemack524]

😂

[@mrfearsmom8857]

The only thing making Monday's bearable ❤ Brief Case gets me through 😂

[@kell4674]

Of course, the moral code that deemed illegitimate babies to be permanently stigmatised and that judged their mothers to be fallen women, should be standing in the dock along with the Makins. So too, the double standard that exonerated the fathers if they preferred to not take responsibility for planting their seed in the first place. So too, the moral restrictions on access to contraception, which doomed so many women to dropping a baby every year. So too, the harsh conditions inflicted on the poor and working class of the time that forced so many to give their children away. I'll stop now as the dock is getting a bit crowded.

[@iseultbourke4692]

Agree with all and it was not just in Australia that this happened. All those poor maids probably raped by their employers. But as for contraception, was any available at the time?

[@rhino5100]

@@iseultbourke4692 I was about to say the same. That's a remarkable number of domestic servants that need to quietly palm off a baby. I believe the fathers of most if not all of those infants are in fact "wed", just not to the children's mothers.

[@brandyjean7015]

​@@iseultbourke4692there is always the tried & true method of keeping your trouser snake in your own britches.

[@beckyfarley60]

So what's the excuse for the way children are murdered EVERY day NOW? Unwed mothers living on welfare with boyfriends "staying" there. Children with no last name, children being locked away for YEARS and no one knows. Our own morality is no better than it was back then. The Americas and Australia were built by prisoners from Europe. This world is rife with filth.

[@carnifaxx]

I don't understand why these backfiring practices were kept for so long... there was also a custom in austro-hungarian empire (at least there) that prevented military-like occupations (not only soldiers, but also guards, gamekeepers etc.) from getting married until some degree of income, which meant they had to wait until they were even almost 40. This was intended to protect their families and ensure stable income. But what actually happened was that they of course had families, but were not married, so it even made the life of their children (and partner) much worse, because these occupations were also quite dangerous, meaning that the father could have died before he was allowed to marry and legitimize his children (and provide some kind of compensation due to being harmed while in service). I saw these cases many times, the children sometimes listed their father in censuses and their marriage records, even though it was "illegal" when they were not legitimate. I've also seen a case when a daughter of such couple married aged 18 and her parents married about a year AFTER her, so her legitimization was entered subsequently into her marriage record creating a mess :D (I genuinely think, even though I have no statistics to prove that, that there were more families of these occupations who lived years unmarried and hoping for a good end than the intended families that really started after obtaining the permission.)

[@tamsin1969]

Brilliant! Between your and Eerie Edinburgh's new video, it has been a great day. Thank you for another amazing video B.C. I hope you're well mate.

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thank you very much, Tamesin, that is very much appreciated

[@tamsin1969]

Your research, attention to detail, story structure and presentation deserve way more than 5 quid. Thank you for your amazing work on a very sad and disturbing story from Australian history. Take care B.C.

[@Bettertimes2025]

What horrible crimes they have committed! All the innocent, little souls!!!🕯️✨🙏🏼

[@charlottereitberger6253]

Thank you BC for always bringing new old cases. So many channels rehash cases over and over so I very much appreciate your work ethic . Often I watch 2 or 3 times because there is so much information. I hit the like button automatically w BC ! ❤

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Much appreciated

[@charlottereitberger6253]

@@BriefCaseOfficial well deserved ❤️

[@Chrissy-j6v]

Brief case, Love your channel. I love history and crime history and you deliver. Often-times giving cases I have never heard about before. Thank you!❤❤

[@susanbryson753]

I was utterly gobsmacked by this sad, sad situation that faced these mostly unmarried women. They loved their babies, and genuinely thought Mr. & Mrs. Makin were loving and trustworthy individuals. I was shocked that their daughters were not prosecuted for their involvement too. Excellent narrative, Mr. Brief Case, as always!! Sensational images too. Thank you for sharing your gift of storytelling with us. You and your work are truly appreciated!!

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thankyou so much Susan :)

[@susanbryson753]

@@BriefCaseOfficial You're welcome!!! You and your body of work are rarefied.

[@elmin82]

thanks BC, i remember hearing this case, that was really haunting

[@dumarae]

good morning brief case lovers. 💚

[@JoannaWilson-o8v]

Good morning x

[@0tt0z]

Good morning to you as well.

[@javanesemystic]

Morning 🫶🏼

[@MisplacedTexan]

Good morning from Michigan, USA! ❤️

[@mauricedavis2160]

Good morning all🌄👌❣️

[@resarm5007]

Good Morning Brief Case! 💼 Thank you for another story, you never fail to come thru for us every week providing a new case we haven't heard of before. These cases regarding "baby farming" disturb me the most, because they're innocents. Their little lives cut short. Breaks my heart. I cannot fathom killing babies. 😔😢 I hope you have a wonderful week and that you're safely back in Mexico, as things have gotten very dangerous overseas. 🙏 (Resa)

[@laurabustos6560]

Thanks Brief Case as always, for starting the week in a very intriguing way. This one was hard, it's the worst of the worst of people who choose to take advantage of and do harm to the youngest and/ or the oldest among us. 🙏🖤✌️😮

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks Laura

[@coxmosia1]

What did they expect to happen under such impoverishment of these people?? I am in no way condoning the Makin's actions, but, geesh. Sounds like John was a controlling manipulator and Sarah had no choice but to go along with it. In any case, John truly got what he deserved. I'm glad she got a prison term and got away from John. She got to be with her family in the end. Very terrible case. BC presented it well. Thanks once again for a most interesting case. If you observe Halloween, may you have a fun one

[@ianhills8980]

How sick you are, blaming just the man.

[@mountainman4859]

What part of this story sounded like Sarah had no choice but to go along with it. She sealed the deal with each of the mothers. She was just as culpable.

[@coxmosia1]

@@mountainman4859 That's why I said "in any case." Maybe she was threatened with death of her and her children if she didn't go along with the plan. Also I stated that I still think she's guilty, but was it conscious compliance? I'm not sure on that one. Poor women at that time and women period had very few options for what kind of life they could have and do in society.

[@largedoglover99]

❤❤ there’s no such thing as illegitimate children, they are all legitimate.❤❤❤

[@Karenpayne47]

All given life by our Creator, each one unique ❤️

[@CjJohnson-kf1oz]

"There is no such thing as illegitimate children,only illegitimate parents".

[@johnburns2940]

MONDAY morning 🌄!! Breif case!!! 💜👊

[@mayday6916]

Truly horrifying. I can't understand how someone can do this to a baby or small child.

[@lolodahab3455]

Omg poor infants and babies was heartbreaking listening 😭😭 Thanks again for awesome narration brief case

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks for listening

[@BeverleyJantjies-bc6sm]

Hi, from South Africa 🇿🇦. Love this channel. Not alone of crime channels from the 1800 or 1900. Very unique.

[@usapatriot4163]

Thanks BC! Great episode! There was no winners in this case, only losers. Families giving up children because they could not or did not want to care for them and sick, twisted people who preyed upon them. It's incredible that any society can place so little value on the lives of its children.

[@maryroberts9315]

"Far from industrious" pretty much sums me up, too.

[@lazyhomebody1356]

lol, me too

[@waynegoddard4065]

QUALITY CHANNEL!!!!!!!!!!!! KEEP IT UP BIG MAN.

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Appreciate it!

[@chesspiece81]

Good Monday morning Brief Case. Another great upload

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thank you kindly

[@chesspiece81]

@BriefCaseOfficial you're welcome have a good week

[@jonnyqwst]

Of all the crimes and outrages most wretched, this category is top of the list.

[@lawshawnharrison7825]

Been waiting patiently for you 🥰🥰🥰

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thank you!

[@iorarua3525]

After a couple of weeks of seeing footage of masses of dead babies dragged out of the rubble in G**a, it seems surreal to watch something like this, where baby killers are actually made to pay for their crimes.

[@SusieDaw-ix6pv]

And the beheaded babies? Gtfo

[@carolbrewster1907]

Thanks for up load more these great interesting story’s of murders in history 😊

[@krisfinley6706]

The cases of the baby farmers are SO HARD to listen to🤬💔 no sympathy or leeway should've been given to them!

[@hobbspitality9739]

Hey! I got concerned when I didn't see you at 7 this morning. I pray all is well with you. Enjoy your day and thank you.

[@Agapy8888]

Time change across the pond

[@hobbspitality9739]

@Agapy8888 Ohhhhhj! Makes sense. 😀

[@lisageiger9841]

Hi B.C. You must research night and day to find these cases. I’m so grateful to you for allowing cases to be heard that probably have been long forgotten about. This case is so very sad. I can’t imagine handing my child over to someone who professed to care for it along with weekly payments, only to find out that they died months ago probably from starvation or were killed. They most likely paid for weeks when their child probably had died months earlier. I hate how greed consumes people. At first I thought, out of 10 children, there would be a few babies in between that didn’t make it until the ages were revealed. Thank -you B.C. Another case no one would’ve known of without your endless research. I love you and until the next brief….case😊

[@mrfearsmom8857]

Did these victims get justice? I don't really think so, Sarah was just as culpable as her husband! She looked these young women and couples in the eyes and assured them their children were safe, only to murder them in the exact same clothing they was wearing when their mother's handed them over 😮. Even more sad, most likely the servants were victims of the men they worked for, only to have their virtue and mortality questioned. 😢 A period of time in which i would want to visit but be king or queen and change this NARRATIVE.

[@janetpendlebury6808]

Coming back as a King or Queen would not have changed anything, they had no control over the laws of the land.

[@cyndybutler7330]

Good morning brief case thanks for the video very interesting case so far

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Good morning!

[@CommonWealther]

Good Morning, BC. Another fine story. Thanks for sharing. 👋❤️🇨🇦

[@kitiyana]

Thank you. Love these historic cases.

[@dixiegeorge9665]

Horrible people, killing babies 😢 Thanks Brief Case, God bless ❤

[@MissMillieEllie]

"Oh my babies!" she cried. "Oh their babies!" I cried. Unbelievable. If I understood correctly, her sentence was changed to life in prison due to her children (=her being a mother). Can someone explain me, how the life in prison helped her children? Did she make money working in prison which was sent to her children? Am I missing something here?

[@jessicaboisvert3138]

Thanks for sharing this and many others that you have done, I enjoy watching them and learning the history of them too.

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks for watching

[@jessicaboisvert3138]

@@BriefCaseOfficial my pleasure

[@angeladormer6659]

What an awful case. I think the right one hung, lazy terrible man. Baby farming was an infamous business and often ended in the child's demise. When the children were insured it was even more prevalent by nefarious criminals under the umbrella of caring. Society was to blame, tarring single poor mothers impregnated by men with more money and power. Poor women with abdominal husbands, often handy with their fists, who could not provide for the numerous children they fathered. Thanks BC for another historic case to make us think.

[@lazyhomebody1356]

Abominable. Abdominal is a pretty funny typo

[@AJ12716]

Brilliant as always!!!! 👍👍👍

[@sensiblecrime7699]

Thank you for reminding us of "the good old days" when abortion was illegal and single mother were shameful.

[@fernandmathurin2720]

Hello everyone watching and listening from saint lucia on a warm sunny morning

[@Agapy8888]

Envious. Lucky you.

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Sounds lovely :)

[@ShirleeKnott]

from a chilly rainy day in Ontario

[@Lisa-hc3uq]

Thank you for another great story Brief Case. 🙂

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks for listening

[@suzieaustin.5905]

Good morning to you brief case, and all of you, have a safe week ❤️❤️🙏❤️

[@Agapy8888]

Likewise

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks Suzie, same to you

[@katherinecollins4685]

Well researched

[@AuroraBlood]

Good morning from very snowy Finland, and a big thank you for yet another interesting case :) I didn't have time to watch yesterday, but better late than...

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Wow, snowing in Finding, that's nice, it's still really hot here

[@LtRee96se]

Very nice little case! Keep up the great work and I will see you in the next....Brief....Case!! I just love this stuff.

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks again!

[@LtRee96se]

@@BriefCaseOfficial I can truthfully say that your cases are never boring.

[@annstubbs2256]

Thank you for a fab channel ❤

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thank you for watching the videos :)

[@mijiyoon5575]

I'm sure they knew what caused all these horrific events ...a shame for sure

[@johannasadler-md5vh]

Another great episode ❤

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thankyou :)

[@dianaantu8227]

another great BC story, every Monday, thank you.

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks for listening

[@divyavanikadugula8089]

Your videos are very informative and interesting 😊

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

So nice of you to say, thanks

[@millicentfullwood2733]

Absolutely awful poor babies it’s disgusting that those already deprive people in desperate situations should be allowed to take other people’s children all because of money I blame the government who should never ever put these children into any danger which they did and sadly that will not bring them back…sickening!

[@carlcushmanhybels8159]

I'm glad, for one, that the jury and courts recognized that Mrs. Makin had some good feelings and appreciations. --Whereas Mr Makin was a heartless, un caring, selfish murderer. While it's very much true that men got away so often (including the lovers of the birth mothers), escaping responsibility, it's true they got this guy. And sometimes women then and now get lighter sentences than men for the same crime. There's double standards and hypocrisies both ways. I'm glad much of today's world is kinder, more supportive when times get tough: Both the women and occasional men? then who sought care for their 'out of Wedlock' children in tough economic times and poor folks on the edge who resorted to illegal means..., times are less cruel now.

[@joannethortan2257]

Good morning Brief Case.

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Morning :)

[@Stephan-bj3lh]

Poor helpless babies deserve better than this.

[@loua1519]

Sounds identical to today's foster care program. With all too many times the same end result.

[@maryserrato1024]

Good morning BC nothing I like better than to wake up on Monday and listen to you

[@gudbrid8702]

Hmmmmmmmmmm the story is very sad 😔thanks sir amazing effort very interested story fantastic explanation 👍🏻👌🏻👍🏻👌🏻GOD bless you n protect you always all the best 👍🏻👌🏻👍🏻👌🏻❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@cheriestephenson5374]

Another wonderful video to listen to and learn how things happened

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thank you!

[@sophiaisabelle01]

Pack up your bags, Brief Case. You deserve a long vacation.

[@Kimi_V_K]

All those poor, sweet babies😢💔RIP

[@TheTechnofu]

very interesting story - thanks for presenting it! It is really sad that Sarah's last days of illness meant her family in the end had to take her in and be responsible instead of the penal system.

[@applicationuser9764]

It amazes me how little value was placed on children at that time. I can tell you from the conduct of my family members that disposing of an inconvenient child was common practice.

[@Karenpayne47]

It’s sadly a reality today as well. The difference is that the murder occurs before the baby is born, as though that makes it somehow more acceptable. 😔

[@applicationuser9764]

@@Karenpayne47 true. However, an abortion is better than live birth and being thrown down the outhouse hole to die in a pile of feces.

[@jeanneann3545]

​@@Karenpayne47getting rid of a literal embryos are way better than birthing them and raising them in unsuitable environment. My country is highly religious, and cases where young teen giving birth in public bathroom alone is common, and then they toss their baby in the trash bin, or they leave their baby infront of the mosque. But thats rare, since it means they can be tracked and then PUNISHED instead of being helped. Forcing women to give birth and raise their children is nothing but a torture, yes, precautions can be taken, but they always have probability of failing. Getting rid of the embryos is not a shameful thing.

[@deniseconsultant1538]

Part of pleasure of seeking out your posts is not just that I appreciate the content presented, I also very much enjoy and respect your very professional manner. All that ire but as a on American I absolutely enjoy your voice, cadence and above all else your divine accent. Regards Denise San Francisco Ca

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thankyou so much Denise :)

[@jocelienjimenez9821]

Good morning Brief Case💼🔎Happy🎃Halloween💀🖤🎃👻☠❤🍁🍃🍂🍏🍎🍃🍂🐱🍁🎃

[@3frenchhens818]

You'd think that a woman who had raised 10 children would have known how to manage the money the mothers paid her. She and her husband could have supported both themselves and the babies, even saving some of the money. I bet murder was the husband's idea. He was probably one of those people who would "quiet" a noisy baby by putting a pillow over it. Her crime was not telling -- though she may have been afraid to.

[@Zaft_K]

I agree. Why would they murder a baby when the parents were willing to pay weekly - as long as they could see her? That makes no sense. Like you, I bet it was the husband who insisted on the murders, and the wife had to go along with it. A man who could kill infants was certainly capable of harming women too.

[@mountainman4859]

My bet was that both of them implemented the plan to kill the babies. She is the one who looked the mothers in the face and sweetly assured them she would love and care for them. She was as guilty. All she had to do was mosey on off to the police station without his knowledge and turn him in if he acted alone.

[@kimsherlock8969]

Thoroughly covered in good timing . The brutality of Britannia continued in a new country with robustness. The people of the country watching for the first time witnessed human cruelty beyond my imagination. The stranger's hung people as soon as they got to land. Maybe before the flag was raised . claiming for Britannia , A reflection of Victorian England. For their own reflective desires.................. Land 😮😢 Australian history is brutality.

[@tinaboostrom7549]

Another amazing Brief Case. Mr. Brief Case, how is the weather where you are at. I'm in Boston Massachusetts, USA and it's raining here

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Its sunny where I am Tina :)

[@tinaboostrom7549]

@@BriefCaseOfficial that's good. Have a Happy Halloween. Waiting patiently for the next Brief Case.

[@marylevin9262]

Ty as always 😁 happy 🎃

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thank you too!

[@cherylbrooks7005]

Interesting as always

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks

[@bunnymad5049]

I have actually not heard of these two. Horrific. All those poor babies and their parents.

[@lesleymacmillan8099]

So interesting. Those poor babies 😢

[@danielamicallef9592]

Infanticide for financial gain! What a terrible mix, baby farming, being wide spread, had its advantages. This particular case shows how merciless this couple was. Real research B.C. so commendable!

[@tinygrim]

as ive had time better to think of the state of world... in a very tragic way, all this babies were lucky compared to the millions upon millions today in 2023....

[@FinnishLapphund]

It's depressing to think about both that these crimes happened, and that there's people today who actively tries to make us go back to the time with no abortions, and no contraceptives.

[@Karenpayne47]

I have no problem with contraceptives that prevent conception, however…. It’s still a human being whether he/she has been born yet or not.

[@annettegrant6423]

To kill a child, whether in the womb or outside the womb is still murder😥

[@prudencepineapple9448]

Agree wholeheartedly. I particularly worry about those who find themselves pregnant through rape or those facing a certain, terminal genetic birth condition.

[@themistnfog]

​@@annettegrant6423 So true. Just like this murderous couple, the abortion industry kills babies for financial gain. Planned Parenthood should be renamed Infanticide for Profit.

[@jeanneann3545]

You all change your mind so fast when you live in religious country like me and then you happen to get pregnant while being unmarried. I hate people who think they're in the high ground of morality to judge people who did abortion. The thought of having it makes me nauseous, but have you ever think about how desperate the women who decided to take it? You think anyone with sane mind would go 'ops i get pregnant again, better get rid of it.' As if its not a big deal? No. They had to think, think, and then decided, because they have no choice, whether its due to religion, financial stability, or because they know they are incapable of raising children due to physical health or mental health. Or worse, because they didn't get pregnant willingly (r word). You saying women have to live with the 'mistake' they did is nothing but punishing them for being a literal human who is fertile. I reckon you guys would backtrack so fast if the women start giving you their children to raise, so dont act so mighty. You only judge them because you never been in their situation, you would change your tune so fast when you experience what they go through.

[@momcat2223]

It may just be my perception but [based largely on his demonstrated disinterest in gainful employment] I suspect Mr. Makin was entirely behind this nefarious enterprise. Based on his picture, he also appears the sort who would - without a second thought - soundly thump his wife and/or daughters if they didn't do exactly as he said, as well.

[@sassycat6468]

My grandmother had 15 kids although 5 of them didn't survive childhood. The thoughts of having 10 kids to feed and clothe makes me wonder how she did it..... yes I am old I'll be 59 in December..... meh old age.