The Hull Cartridge Factory Tour!

This was our first ever time inside a Shotgun cartridge factory, and what an amazing place it was.
We learnt the history of of favourite ammo, saw the full loading process and even got to shoot in the pattern tunnel!
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[@OliCM3]

After coming across this channel about a year ago, I wanted to see what all the rage was about these Hull cartridges. So after 20 years of shooting, I bought my first Hull slab (Sovereign to be exact), and when I saw the price, I jokingly said “f me, do they come with a new gun!?”. But after my first round, I’m not exaggerating when I say I felt like I’d just bought a new gun. I know they’re expensive, but the confidence they give is priceless, and for me they bring in the results, easily a 15% improvement.

[@tgsoutdoors]

I try not to use too many sovereigns a year, or I will become addicted.

[@wyrmysboards2998]

This was BRILLIANT! I handload my own 00 buckshot, #8 birdshot and 325gr breach and I found myself lusting after several of theses cartridges. The level of detail, the types of questions and answers, the tour, the components were all EXTREMELY satisfying...more please!

[@paulvenn4447]

9:44 BRILLIANT! I love all these factory tours and watching Jonny basically be Charlie in the Chocolate Factory 100 times over.

[@potatoarms]

I have been watching you for a while and wonder how you are not a bigger channel. Your personality and video production standards are so good 👌Great video as usual

[@tgsoutdoors]

Thankyou ❤️

[@PaperMakersAdeludedbroad]

What's good to some isn't to others. Opposite of the saying: One man's trash is another man's treasure.

[@joshuagibson2520]

111k subs is not exactly a small channel.

[@RichardMilesMorris]

Completely agree; really enjoy your shooting videos and especially those with Ed Solomons. Come to Melbourne sometime and shoot Field & Game with us.

[@tbrowniscool]

Unfortunately this is a dying industry, along with all the other tradition field sports/lifestyle. We are being conditioned as a country to accept the big corporations, look at what happened in Denmark in 2019. The government basically said they were the largest polluters and they cannot use fertilizers and other chemicals. So say it was a ploy to get these long-standing land owners to sell their land (for the government to swipe up). Just look at the hysteria around fox hunting in the UK. I am a fan of traditions and the country way of life, but the city folk have been told that food comes from asda and farmers just want to shoot birds and rip apart foxes for fun. Its really sad to see what's happening but in 30 years I will be surprised if firearms will be accessible to anyone. Farmers will probably have to fill out a form to request the police to dispatch an animal. Madness

[@JHruby]

Great video. I would love to see more Hull cartridges available here in the USA. I believe they are imported but I would not call them widely available. Hull's reputation here is that of a premium load and most who have shot them seem to agree they are in the category of "you get what you pay for.". But finding Hull consistently is a problem. Would love to see a broader push into the US market.

[@keithpassant5063]

Same as Potato Arms. Its good to see you do these visits and hold excellent conversations with sensible well thought out questions that produce clear understandable to the layman answers. Keep up the excellent work.

[@StikkyWood]

I love passionate companies like Hull. They are a NJFP organisation. Not Just For Profit.

[@boovez]

Love that you’ve come to my hometown and shown off one of its few gems ❤️

[@Cornz38]

Once visited whilst i had the barrel on my HW100 changed for the version with the "silencer" / UNF thread. Lovely place, great staff.

[@Blondejam]

Well done JC & team. Very interesting and informative. It's easy to forget the R&D aspect of ammunition development and rising environmental concerns that we face. It is a great insight to a great British company that is playing it's part in producing some of the best cartridges in the world for a sport that hopefully will continue to grow. Thank you all at Hull for your professionalism and determination to be the best there is. p.s A very merry Christmas and a happy New Year to all!!!

[@sahhull]

We also have Gamebore Cartridge company in Hull

[@fullchoke01]

Factory tours 😍😍😍, miroku factory is my dream, to see actual craftsmen sighting barrels by eye and hand fitting guns

[@normjohnson7753]

I just finished watching your "Hull Cartridge" offering. One of your best videos! Happy Holidays!

[@TheBrummiedoug]

I worked at Eley Hawk for years, On BSN loading and Sintesi packing machines so I found that an interesting watch. Thanks for the tour.

[@malakai651]

A truly great British company, I've been past the Hull Cartridge Company many times and have always wondered what it was like. They could do with the royal warrant!

[@peterparsons7141]

Looks like a solid company, good on them for their forward looking management. I can understand Hull cartridge having a very committed customer base.

[@darrenlaithwaite7810]

Great film John and Sash, just wish I could shoot more. Wish TGS a great Christmas and a great new new. Keep the films coming and look forward to the next gun review vid.👍👍

[@Thestorminator89]

When I was a kid, I remember going past the Hull cartridge factory, on the bus and seeing how massive the building is, I always wondered what it would of looked like inside. Now I know. 👍

[@vincentp9038]

It's a shame we can't get Hull cartridges in the States

[@merv690]

well done all involved, another high quality video out of the top draw congratulations

[@HenryBaillie-Hamilton]

Super fast 24grm fibre amazing cartridge, quality, consistent, like my perazzi simply does what it says on the box time and time again. Thank you all at Hull. (It blows my mind how far out they will kill, in my 33" HPX DSR John Jeffrey perazzi 3/4 3/4, 80 yards no issue. Oh it's the only cartridge I have never had a misfire. I have never had a cartridge that has smoked so may clays. I would love to have a super fast cap ❤️👍

[@jasondoyle6061]

Great story telling! Well done all

[@forddude1976]

I enjoyed seeing where my cartridges are Mead. I have had a back injury so haven't shot in month but I'm shooting Christmas Eve I can't wait, I'll be shooting Hull cartridges

[@akhtarkh]

It is not much of a factory tour, but mostly their product advertisement. Came here to see how cartridges are made. Your Beretta factory tour was excellent.

[@tgsoutdoors]

There is only so much we could show, without breaking KZbin’s rules or disrespecting Hull’s requests. Was a cool opportunity to learn about them, and we at least got to learn the secrets 😂

[@tudorwynphillips6458]

Absolutely brilliant. 👏👏Thoroughly enjoyable.

[@MSJOnline1]

Cracking video chaps, great watch and brilliant production

[@salopsniper22]

Hull hydro wad perform very well but 2 years on and left out all year round they still look brand new. How long is it expected to take for them to break down ? I know of one shoot who bans them and treats them as plastic!

[@akafiley]

That's because it's a bioplastic and their certification isn't evidence it will biodegrade. The EN13432 standard only shows it is suitable for industrial composting, which is very different to sitting in the grass on a hillside... Bioplastics are still plastics, and it's quite misleading the way Hull present the product imo

[@kurtricketts1618]

Just used some pro fibre and I’m now thinking of switching to hull after years using gamebore 👍👍

[@tgsoutdoors]

Pro fibre are the one!

[@roberthowe2910]

Hull..lads and lassies..leading the way...

[@Ghuarocc]

I wish Hull could export into the U.S. Sounds like a cool company to try out and support.

[@johnbeven9600]

A great education. Fabulous: thank you

[@chucksgmgarage1116]

Merry Christmas TGS hope everyone has a great Holiday.

[@tgsoutdoors]

And to you too

[@DeckDogs4Life]

I will say, in the US, the hunting market seemed to die down a bit for a while. I think more people got interested in hunting again after COVID hit but it didn't really seem as popular as when I was a kid before. I grew up deer and squirrel hunting and still do to this day and I do hope to see more people get interested in hunting again. Especially because, when COVID hit, people went out and bought guns like crazy due to lockdowns preventing police response in some areas, so a lot of larger manufacturers that supply the US market focused on the bare bottom in ammo quality and it was difficult to find certain rifle cartridges. Instead of making 30-30, they were using the bullets to make other calibers. My dad deer hunts with a .260 Caliber rifle and, because they use the same bullet in 6.5 Creedmoor, he couldn't find any quality ammo for his deer rifle. Very good video and I like seeing manufacturers still care about quality because, when shortages with COVID hit, a lot of the mainstream manufacturers here cut corners to try and produce more volume. I have a Winchester 9mm round sitting on my desk that the primer was put in the round sideways and is definitely not safe to fire. Frankly, with how the primer is crumpled up sideways, I don't know how it didn't cause an accident in the manufacturing process. So definitely love seeing companies still caring about quality. I don't know if Hull Cartridge company ships or supplies any of the US market but if they are caring about quality, I'm sure someone in the US is caring about quality too.

[@parrisgeorge9708]

You bring up some good points about ammunition being hard to find over the last few years. One of the bigger issues outside of timing with Covid is the problems that Remington experienced. The timing for that manufacturer was that the holding company that owned and ran both the firearms as well as ammunition factories was essentially robbing Peter to pay Paul. Ammunition was profitable and brought in much needed operating capital. That money instead of going to maintain the ammunition plant and pay suppliers went into the firearm end of things. Toward the end several suppliers essentially put the ammunition plant on a pre pay basis. Once the company was broken up and the ammunition plant was bought the new owners had a big job so that they could bring the plant back on line producing ammunition. Combine that with greater demand from shooters, LEO, and military for all the ammunition factories and we have a perfect storm leading to shortages.

[@DeckDogs4Life]

@Parris George and that perfect storm unfortunately lead to some manufacturers forgetting about quality a bit to focus on producing higher volume. They figured who cares if this ammo isn't as accurate as usual? We just need to produce ammo and that's never a good thing.

[@robertbromley7591]

Love the passion

[@peteraugust5295]

for sure their packaging g designs are on point.

[@davidward2231]

Great film. Just needed some Chris!

[@tgsoutdoors]

Everything needs more Chris

[@glendavis9663]

That was a awesome tour

[@rosewhite---]

When you were at Hull Cartridge didn't you go watch them pour shot in the shot tower? I wnet past a year or two since and saw the little cart being hoisted up.

[@c4jax]

With the recent HSE communication on a possible future of a lead shot ban, it would be interesting to see where and what Hull Cartridge need from a customers support base. We do not have a ever ending budget, and neither does the manufacturers. Yes, I completed the consultation.

[@stevemaynard9003]

I have used Hull loads for years, they are good. However, despite what was said in the video I believe they have changed the specification of the case, which they use for their X Comp loads. I have shot thousands of these loads in 21g and 28g. over several years in my Longthorne sidelock. However, about a year ago after buying a new batch the cartridges kept slipping past the ejector irons on both barrels, which meant I had to use a cleaning rod to push them out. I now use Hull Sorting 100's which work well. without any problems. Any comments Johnny ??

[@milkman_21]

I would like to see a video comparing 2 guns with the same barrel length, bore, and chokes with the same cartridges but one being 70mm chamber and the other 76mm chamber and see difference in pattern or even pellet speed that the extra empty chamber space makes!

[@GonzoTheRosarian]

Brilliant! Love your channel!

[@BikeGunCarGav]

I moved to Hull from Eley in 2020 and haven’t looked back, they are cleaner and so consistent. Pro Comp 24g fibre is my cartridge of choice now. As I use less in the field I treat myself to the Sovereigns 😂

[@SnoopReddogg]

It's a banger brewery!!!!

[@harryminkley1336]

Been watching this channel for probably near 5 years now. Quality has increased by no end. Any chance of a Gamebore tour? I use both soverign parcour 6.5 and black golds so it would be nice to see how Gamebore do it. Although i understand you have good ties with Hull so i know this may not be possible for the same reason reviewing the Krieghoff factory would be tricky with Longthorne being so close with you.

[@tgsoutdoors]

Would love to look inside Krieghoff one day, but as you say, it may never happen

[@joshuagibson2520]

Lol. I love that they use so many imperial units.

[@sahhull]

We also have Gamebore Cartridge company in Hull too.

[@Kirkee7]

In my late teens I wanted a job with HUll Cartridge testing the product. Never dared to inquire or even hoped a job would be available . I did something better I joined the army. Still didn't get to fire a shotgun though.

[@jarednelson1634]

excellent!!!

[@perrypappous7617]

What a truly excellent presentation! You need to grab a pallet of Hull cartridges and come to California for a clay-shooting tour. We have plenty of high-quality clay ranges. I have never seen Hull cartridges for sale here (Kents, occasionally.). Perry Pappous, Southern California, USA.

[@tgsoutdoors]

A container load or two in the USA would make me and a lot of other very happy!

[@joelhall5124]

Please could you do an Eley factory tour?

[@royjennison3916]

wow , great vid , and whats better its a British company

[@uswee]

Great content. Please make Hull readily available for me. USA.

[@borjastick]

Can Hull come to France and sell their product here please? We need better supply and more choice. I have the contacts and knowledge of this market, maybe we can get them over here.

[@Retired-Tom]

I just hope we can keep lead in sizes 8 and smaller, just like in fishing. So clay shooting at least should be safe. No idea what's going to happen with pigeon/crow

[@JefferyWoodcock]

Hurry up and get some shipped to USA.

[@rogerm1cdq407]

just wondering how long till 3.5 inch for steel loads becomes more common and not just wild fowling or someone comes out with a 4" chamber and a 4" cartridge for the higher load of steel

[@georgesheffield1580]

Wish Hull cartridges were available here in Texas

[@TheBrummiedoug]

Hi Did Rio get their loading plant set up in Texas?

[@AwlDeigh]

Well done. Get some to theUS

[@francisconway9949]

Looking at the warehouse with all the pallets stacked with ammunition there must be quite a bit of health and safety rules . # no 1 No Smoking. A very interesting video.

[@haydenbrown5725]

Goes without saying in any business i think. If you do your homework you will find out that shot shells ammunition or any civilian ammunition is actually very safe compared to other manufactured products we use in daily life, sans a PHEV motor vehicle or a lap-top computer etc,etc. It is class 1 which puts it at the top of the list but Class 1 is a very diverse group of dangerous goods. You go have a look.

[@dgoodman1484]

If only they would start importing 2 1/2” shells into the US!

[@jamiecarter2483]

What components do they actually manufacture or is everything outsourced and they assemble?

[@kenlansing1216]

Too bad they aren't more available in Canada. Canadian shotgun shells like Challenger, Score and Imperial are good quality but they don't offer as wide a variety of components.

[@MbisonBalrog]

Do they specialize in clay birdshot shells only?

[@chrisg2779]

Great show. You’ve gotta be about 6’10” right. Or everyone who makes guns and ammo is really really short.

[@canbrit4621]

They need to start exporting to North America

[@markh7288]

Such a shame, we used to be able to get Hull in Ireland but they are not available now.

[@ddoherty5956]

So will we be getting interchangeable chambers to go with the chokes to make guns more versatile?

[@ChrisUKFF]

Unlikely, It's more likely the "standard" chamber size will be bigger and become the new norm due to the decreased density of steel.

[@karelbrusten7591]

Hoi Johnny,keep on dusting Clays. Do you know the length between the first pellets and the last pellets after 30 meters in the air. Karel Belgium

[@martinsteven2643]

Interesting that Hull appears to have confirmed the rumour that when using Steel you have to match the Cartridge with the chamber length? My guns all have 3’ chambers but I still only shoot 70 & 65 mm cartridges even when using Steel. Am I damaging my guns by doing so?!

[@buckshotaaa]

I shouldn't think so, if there is an issue i would assume it will be maybe not so good obturation with the shorter length cartridges. It's a learning curve for us all.

[@5_star_stays]

Quality

[@AbdurRahman-fm1xj]

Hull is great and must be supporting you but some people say that there kill and recoil is not good.?

[@rosewhite---]

10:11 shows the old wood crate marked DRG TUNERS. Does anyone know what GRD TUNERS were?

[@tgsoutdoors]

We found it in an old HGV workshop near Southampton 😬 not much else I know

[@rosewhite---]

@@tgsoutdoors I can't find anything online either. I'm always interested in old stuff.

[@jg_denver1056]

Would love to try their stuff. But I live in the states.

[@tgsoutdoors]

Keep your eyes peeled in 2023. There may be some about!

[@ardenpowers7730]

@@tgsoutdoors I really, really hope so . . . can't wait !!!!!!

[@worldgunownersassociation7299]

I bet I could they'd go grey overnight if they saw what I make! My TSS loads might interest them though.

[@saltcreekammo]

I'm starting my own shotshell ammunition company and have big ideas and visions for expanding and improving nontoxic shotshells, primarily the wadding and it's degradation after firing. I feel the same as what was said in the video-- the world is taking a hard turn away from lead and that will only further lead to biodegradable wads. I hope to bring that to the United States.

[@nathanlozier1817]

When you figure out a way to get the same performance as lead and the same cost, people will switch over. Until then the majority of US upland hunters will continue to shoot lead.

[@Kysushanz]

The sensible move is away from Steel. There is more environmental damage to waterways caused by toxic rust from steel shot than there has ever been from lead shot. Wounded birds die a horrible death from septicaemia caused by steel shot than ever died from lead poisoning - you used to get birds with old lead shot still in them as the body sealed the lead but steel just keeps festering away. Greta and her greenie mob have a lot to answer for. No doubt the same idiots that fell for COVID will also fall for the steel shot revolution.

[@borisfargo1290]

How long do the hydrowads take to break down

[@6079__Smith__W]

The guy at the @SurvivingDuckSeason YT channel done some testing on the shotstring & pattern size and his findings (evidenced with slow motion video) suggests that faster loads will give a tighter pattern.. worth checking Btw, great content, Johnny

[@RobertSmith-qs8yl]

think that was true for steel shoot and tungsten shot but not lead.

[@6079__Smith__W]

@@RobertSmith-qs8yl fair point that he didn't test lead shot.. but i don't think it matters. Even if you put wood or sand, the effect is the same.. faster loads will maintain tighter group and open up slower

[@RobertSmith-qs8yl]

@@6079__Smith__W certainly was very interesting high speed video, would like to see it for fibre wads also but then it was USA. my findings for fibre wads with lead is faster is no guarantee of a tighter pattern.

[@6079__Smith__W]

@@RobertSmith-qs8yl I believe it's difficult to compare fibre vs plastic from a speed point of view as they're different cartridges (i.e. manufacturers developed the load independently and not just swapped wads) But yeah, I am with you. I'd love to see the same testing done on fibre

[@Dimitrius001]

Do you know if there are any plans to bring Hull cartridges to the States?

[@tgsoutdoors]

🤞🏼

[@johnnunn8688]

Please explain ‘hydro-wad’?

[@godfreyberry1599]

Assumed a cartridge was a cartridge. This gentleman's incredible depth of experience and knowledge regarding the intrinsic detail of his product is absolutely unbelievable. Great to witness uncompromising quality in today's world of poor and shoddy standards. Pity this item's performance is dependant on its instantaneous and complete destruction.

[@JohnHartley-nv4rg]

So is there an optimum choke size for standard steel cartridges? I think that by now, we all know that we should not exceed 1/2 choke, but is it better to be more open than that or to have the chokes at 1/2?

[@nickhorten97]

Shall I?

[@JohnHartley-nv4rg]

@@nickhorten97 yes, please do respond.

[@nickhorten97]

@@JohnHartley-nv4rg oh, all right then! John, what makes you say that about half choke?

[@JohnHartley-nv4rg]

@@nickhorten97 That seems to be the advice that I have received from a gunsmith and from others on-line. I have had the choke modified on one of my guns from half and full to half and half so that I can use steel shot on game and wildfowl, Webley 700 boxlock with good barrel wall thickness.

[@nickhorten97]

@@JohnHartley-nv4rg for a lightweight English game gun that is probably reasonable advice. It's worth having a read of the steel shot safety recommendations on the BASC website. The gist of it is that, under the CIP regs there is no recommendations for choke constriction in either standard or HP steel, unless you go above 4mm in pellet size whereupon half choke is suggested. Have a careful read of the actual regulations. They are a real eye opener.

[@CraigK80]

Also see the advertisements have been ramped up to the max on these vids. Shame as it spoils the flow seeing some random adverts about a fkn hoover? 😂

[@AlexanderPanzeri]

4:08 Really? He didn’t mentioned the first feature: SAFE???

[@davidpyper82]

Ok what are carzy 8s and where can I get them ?

[@tgsoutdoors]

Barbury Shooting Schools Custom load

[@davidpyper82]

@@tgsoutdoors thanks for Reply thanks for the content better than TV . Merry Christmas guys

[@jeanmorin3247]

It's so good to get the clues from the horse's mouth. No bullshit there. I know what to bet on, now.

[@mcyclonegt]

I'm slightly confused by the name of the company. Hull and cartridge mean the same thing. Where did the name come from? It's redundant.

[@tgsoutdoors]

Hull is the City in which the factory is located

[@sassythesasquatch1571]

I buy these 😂

[@windym709]

Lovely, just too expensive.

[@heyheynowinga9972]

BUT YOU CANT EXLAIN CARAMILK CARMEL AND HOW THEY GET THE FILLING INSIDE

[@mikeproctor3664]

It's a shame it's mot available here in the U.S.. Especially the 2 1/2 shells since we presently do not have a supplier here in the U.S. for those shells

[@michaelansell2531]

RST shells in the US

[@mikeproctor3664]

@@michaelansell2531 No longer producing ammo

[@nevillewalker6299]

Poty no mention of their 410 range because the 3 inch 410 is about as good as it gets.

[@tgsoutdoors]

Agreed!

[@SnoopReddogg]

To be honest, was watching in the hope 410 would cop a mention. I shoot ducks over decoys with a 410 and im fast running out on the slab of winchester 3inch steel i chanced on a few years ago and can't secure any more non-toxic ammo here in Australia. Ideally biodegradable wads and rolled crimps, but buggers can't be choosers.

[@erichowell1967]

Why can’t they ship some of this ammo to America???

[@johnnunn8688]

In no way am I an expert but know how I would protect barrels from steel shot. To me, it’s obvious. 🤷‍♂️

[@smithy8815]

Quality second to none? I’ve shot hull superfast for years however they have definitely gone down in quality had a few not more than the primer go off definitely disappointed and will be changing to something else on my next batch I buy such a shame 🤦‍♂️

[@bentleyfatheree1616]

Again you have out done yourself

[@jackpinesavage9806]

It’s because. Of. The. Stupid. Title. Mis. Punct. Uation.

[@noxtech]

wtf?

[@facebookiseffedup]

I would be very happy if I could purchase Hull Cartridges here in the united states

[@certificateofvaccinationi.d.19]

I bought my first and only PCP from them Wierauch HW100.

[@CraigK80]

Was my go to cartridge for many years until the prices went up and up. Was unwilling to drop down to the cheaper punchy cartridges as my scores suffered. Real shame as I always wanted to buy British. Now shoot Fiocchi which to be fair are phenomenal cartridges and 20% cheaper cartridges for cartridge when compared to Hull. Plus you’ll already find Fiocchi components in Hull so why not go to source. Great Vid as always JC and Sasha.