‘The idiocy’ of Australia’s energy crisis is ‘about to get really weird’

Australia’s energy crisis idiocy isn’t about to end, it’s about to “get really weird", says Sky News host Chris Kenny.
“All the politicians push renewables, the greener they are the more they push them,” Mr Kenny said.
“But it is dispatchable, reliable, affordable power they need, and that is coal.
“Just two years ago NSW treasurer was boasting about ushering coal out of the system.”

[@absolutelydelightful5089]

That's what happens when you listen to a 14yr old Sweedish girl. "How Dare You" 🤣🤮

[@innsurectionist1539]

Greta survives Trump Morrison and Murdoch... 🎵 I'm still standing yeah yeah yeah..🖕 😆😆😆😆😆

[@margaretarmstrong2445]

@EcoDemoSocio Like you, she doesn't have a clue. Bet she gets paid better than you though.

[@thejollygreendragon8394]

See a young female really triggers your little boy pride :)

[@valenrn8657]

@@innsurectionist1539 Greta has yet to be elected into political office.

[@disymes9857]

@EcoDemoSocio What upsets me is that these greens twits complain but have NO answers as to how to fix it when asked!!. I mean fix it so that the average person can still live their life as they have been without having to pay through the nose for it, then having to sit through blackouts in 2022. They all will set us back 500 years if we do not stand up to them. I am so happy that I will not be around to see what Australia will look like in 50 years. However my grand children will and that frightens me.

[@mrcheesesmith]

This level of incompetence must be met with harsh consequences. We cant continue like this.

[@georgepoitras3502]

It is actually a threat to your National Security. Your Government should overrule them. Make them get green energy up to around 70% of your daily demand before shutting off any Gas or Coal Plant. Also make sure you shut Those pushing this insane plan off from the grid immediately.

[@thejollygreendragon8394]

So what do you suggest. We jail the incompetent LNP grifters who led us to this situation ?

[@Jim-yk9zw]

I reckon 95% of pollies are corrupt. I'd love to see a transparent breakdown of how much tax they claim off us pa and where it goes as well as who pays next to none or no tax. I think that would finally wake some sleepers up to how busted our system is. No one in government is ever truly held to account.

[@russellk.bonney8534]

who can shake the living daylights out of such people? only voters and they get gaslight.

[@papabetadine724]

Bring out the noose

[@mwallace2922]

It's all part of the plan. You will own nothing and be happy. Enjoy.👌👌🏻👌🏻

[@golden.lights.twinkle2329]

And you'll be taxed on it.

[@MakerInMotion]

Pushing insects as food and global digital currency is next.

[@sheerluckholmes5468]

Someone should usher Matt Kean out of the system, that might be a good start to draining the idiocracy that is pretending to run Australia.

[@johngeier8692]

The situation is getting rather serious with our craven and foolhardy politicians. There is now a long history of melodramatic doomsday predictions about the climate being proven wrong by history. Additionally, several major countries are building numerous coal fired power plants.

[@johnwoodrow8769]

Matt Kean will be "ushered out of the system" at the next NSW state election (March next year I believe). Even if he holds his seat he will be in opposition when the NSW Liberals are defeated. And this is coming from a near life time conservative voter.

[@truth4293]

We should usher out all the management in power companies and replace them.

[@williamblack7813]

If Matt Kean was a computer file I would press delete.... If he was a program.... well, delete button!! Kean is an idiot has he has no grasp of reality.

[@dannymeyer3256]

It's deliberately done.

[@peterli7120]

"...Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools..." Romans 1:22

[@thommysides4616]

Amen to that Saint Peter!!!

[@logan_e]

Amen! Nobody is dumber than an idiot who thinks they are smart!

[@kristiblack1428]

You're to kind. They are hideously ugly satanic scumbags of the worst kind!

[@oldnutta7611]

They've all got shares in these things they push.

[@donotcomply665]

Oh yeah. 'Green energy' is a grift set up to make elite investors rich, and the brainwashed climate cultists are cheering them on.

[@letmeexplain1816]

I bet they have too.

[@johngeier8692]

The laws of economics will catch up with the Climate Delusion and associated Climate Fraud in due course and the whole fiasco will come crashing down in a screaming heap.

[@Voodoo4209]

Yeah its a real Crisis. Melbourne City is lit up like a Fkn Christmas Tree. Advertising Signs Lit Up but Householders you must Use Power Wisely 🤔😂

[@Design_no]

Thank DAN the "man" for that. He just got off the phone to Joe and Ping.

[@georgepoitras3502]

Exactly. Brown out the areas where the Government works and lives first. They will fix the power issue over a month's time.

[@letmeexplain1816]

@@georgepoitras3502 ....You are absolutely right !!

[@coopsawright7225]

Sydney's northern beaches had black outs the other night but the city still had it's empty buildings , skyscrapers and office blocks all lit up like Christmas trees. How serious is this new Government about what they are telling us ?

[@johnhawkins2105]

@@coopsawright7225 NSW has a new government?

[@blackknight3496]

Took America 1 year for buyers remorse it's taken Australians 3 weeks

[@stephaniesemmler4190]

Black Knight, even I thought it would take longer to show how inept they are.

[@totaramgandhi5117]

@@stephaniesemmler4190 You mean the guys who were running the show for 9 years?

[@kickinkanga7026]

How long is is everyone going to put up with this stuff ? Honestly? Bloody hell.

[@eliwosalie9965]

Understanding who we really are in this world, how we are all controlled by the 1%, a pyramid system of finance. Governed by corporate bodies under Admiralty Law and the Laws of Commerce(Maritime Trade).No matter which way we turn, complain, it all falls on deaf ears. What’s happened to the Magna Carta of 1215, Australia’s original constitution and our most powerful rights against these tyrants, our Bill of Rights? without a Bill of Rights there’s no Human Rights and the only power we have is to vote these A’holes into power because without us, they have nothing as we are only slaves to their system. The cornerstone to their power is that the 1% claimed this world under Maritime Law, the Cestui Que Vie Act 1666, done secretly behind closed doors in London in 1666, this also included the Canon Laws of the Vatican. Where we are right now in our existence within the Cestui Que Vie Act and Canon Law 2036 which clearly states: The original purpose of a Cestui Que Vie Trust was to form a temporary Estate for the benefit of another, because some event, state of affairs or condition prevented them from claiming their status as living, competent and present before a competent authority. Therefore, any claims, history, statutes or arguments that deviate in terms of the origin and function of a Cestui Que Vie Trust as pronounced by these Canons is false and is automatically null and void. A Cestui Que Vie trust may only exist for seventy (70) years being the traditional acceptable life of expectancy of the estate. Take note of the 70yrs Queens Silver Jubilee celebrations and the financial kaos we are presently in. Life expectancy of an Estate(humans) is seventy years, and why has the pension age been incremented for example if anybody born in 1955 that person would normally be eligible for the aged pension at 65, but now that person has to wait an extra 18mths or 66yrs of age and 6mths to be eligible. We are all under the control of the Department of Human Resources. Does it sound ridiculous, it does, but it is true. Why do we have Trusts, Public Trustees ripping off people?

[@alexanderauersperg5149]

When this all blows up can the greenies be the ones that are without power and not the rest of us.

[@nerdy_dav]

Take a look at Canberra. Cheapest power in Australia. Then, have a good look at why. Followed by WA, because the Labor government there was smart enough to reserve 15% of gas exports.

[@Territory.Beyond]

this is a great idea.....anyone that voted for these idiots goes on a register and they get the 3% of renewable power.

[@margaretarmstrong2445]

@@nerdy_dav The power in Canberra recently went up by 12%. You say its the cheapest in Australia, by how much? Please give us the details. You don't have any to give do you.

[@thejollygreendragon8394]

I say it should be the fools who voted for the incompetent LNP grifters who created this mess by their denial

[@alexanderauersperg5149]

@@thejollygreendragon8394 how so we want power and are happy to burn coal to do it. Go set up a windmill in your yard and disconnect from the grid you tosser

[@HistoryGe3k]

I viewed a clip the other day where our Prime Minister said that we could charge our Electric Vehicles at night with solar power. Need I say more?????. . He did not speak about batteries, just using solar power at night. Even if you used batteries with your panels, the average home would not be able to generate enough power by solar to power its own needs as well as an Electric Vehicle. You would probably need 3-4 batteries (cost $10K each) which would require a LOT of panels to do so - assuming if you drained 75% of the EV battery each day.

[@deangamma5442]

That is called generating business for an industry that has been lobbying.gov for many years. Uts all about keeping US & UK industries happy at the expense of Aussies

[@bringer-of-change]

Basically, that's your Gov't testing the general effectiveness of your countries peoples nativity/bullshit detectors. I bet alot of people are so shallow minded that they fell for it, just like here in the U.S. we humans arent so different from eachother. We share the same general ignorance and stupidity. As cool as it is to have things in common, we should probably like...change that now yaknow? I figure you know how badly we need to change that just as much as I do. Honor be praised, I want to see the heads of these tyrants on iron spikes. I want their golden fluid used to paint symbols upon the sides of a vibrating black granite obelisk with a palladium core and tip. I'm talkin keeping their damn souls captive as to keep history from repeating itself that's how bad I want this kinda stuff to stop happening, at least long enough for us to progress and advance beyond this planet alone and maybe dilute the evil that seems yo always rear its ugly head throughout humanities history. I just want what's best for the children of earth and the people of the universe, and if that means a bunch of old, decrepit pieces of trash loose their lives and souls for the greater good of billions and maybe later trillions of others with the potential for good, then so be it. I would voluntarily be disemboweled ordered eagle or dare I say it...dare I say it.....I would sit upon the cradle of judah if I knew the future of the children would be guaranteed by it.

[@linmal2242]

The idiocy of the 'Green Left' delusians has infected the A L P too !

[@Djulimee]

He is not the brightest spark in the fire is he.....must be something in the nwo putting all these dumbasses into the big chairs...all around the western world. They have Jackboots in NZ....and she's no brain thats for sure....biden in America....need I say more, and now we have Sleazy here in Oz. Wow...where the heck did these rotten apples fall from! Bego!

[@nicnocb6677]

​@Will R Thomson where was that battery from ? Solar batteries in the UK are thousands

[@tavuzzipust7887]

The lunatic climate-doomsayers won't be happy till Australia switches off the lights, goes bankrupt, and reverts to the stone age.

[@ikeskifan]

You're right and after that's happened they will blame it on Trump

[@paulgregory4102]

You don't hear of greta and Bill gates etc etc saying anything about China or India but say a country gets to net zero the country might be destroyed the rich depend on us for their wealth domino effect 🙄

[@donotcomply665]

@@paulgregory4102 Just found these stats: China is building 172 coal power stations, Indonesia is building 56, India 47, Vietnam 11, Bangladesh 11, Japan 8, Pakistan 6, Korea 4, Philippines 4, Poland 2. These country KNOW the ‘climate crisis’ is fake and that a solid power supply is the way to lift people out of poverty. While our idiotic 'leaders' push the 'green energy' grift and are shut our power down.

[@johngeier8692]

They are indeed suffering from a ridiculous but very economically destructive popular delusion (Climate Delusion ). The false and delusional belief that mans effects on the earth’s climate are significant and dangerous. To his credit Mr Trump called this nonsense out.

[@covahredro8370]

Because the whole thing is nothing but a hoax to take your rights and enslave you to their tyrannical rule.

[@nomyafiftyonefifty8081]

How many vaccines and boosters will people require to be " immune" from the energy " virus".?

[@Prognosis__]

😉My son didn’t have the V and he is less sick than his siblings who decided to have V…I’m staying out of my house for a week 😆

[@johngeier8692]

Omicron strain is an escape mutant.

[@jsuter2849]

@@Prognosis__ Good thing we don't use anecdotal evidence on a sample size of 3 to make scientific decisions.

[@mariahewitt9787]

@@johngeier8692 Klaus Schwab is an escape mutant.

[@malsmith2012]

@@jsuter2849 I know but it's the FACTUAL DATA coming in to the CDC as the RESULT of those rushed scientific and political decisions that are now proving that this filthy V is indeed causing huge damage to young people and deniers like you who want to look the other way can talk all you want pretending it's all BS but you're wrong. The millennial age group 25 to 44 in the US experienced an 84% INCREASE in excess mortality rates and that was just into last fall!! Worst ever excess mortality rate in history and those increases mirror the implementation of mandates and boosters!! And to put numbers on that starting in the summer and into the fall of 2021 with those mandates and boosters there was 61 THOUSAND EXCESS millennial deaths! 58 thousand US troops were killed in the Vietnam war so essentially you've had a Vietnam war happen to this age group! And all before the end of 21. Wait until the data keeps flowing in. But you won't care because CNN or some mainstream media outlet didn't tell you so it's not true. Not even the ex Chief Scientist and VP of Pfizer International ,Michael Yeadon, who has been saying since leaving Pfizer that this V was dangerous and hadn't been tested properly would convince you even though late last year after being attacked in the media by the typical globalist vermin was vindicated when Pfizers secret research and approvals findings into this V were leaked showing they absolutely knew about the serious health issues resulting from their dirty shot. For Christs sake the FDA even went to court in Texas urgently requesting that FOIA's requesting information into the V would take 55 years! From the BS lies that this came from the wet market ( Oh that's right FAUCI not only requested the gain of function testing in WUHAN to MAKE the virus HE FUNDED IT AS WELL!!) to all the criminality around the V this entire episode was man made. And for me personally I have 4 people close to me, 1 of them a family member, who with no prior heart issues ever have been in hospital with major heart issues. Just a coincidence I bet..

[@MolecularArts]

"Cheap" Renewables have saddled Germany with the most expensive electricity in Europe.

[@mitebcool]

As a great man once said, sounds good, doesn't work.

[@blackknight3496]

Welcome to AUSTRALIA the New American democrat state

[@thejollygreendragon8394]

You need time away from Sky

[@damo7722]

And Victoria the new CCP state

[@mervynstent1578]

UN Country

[@mervynstent1578]

@@thejollygreendragon8394 go piss off to your ABC 🖕🏿

[@blackknight3496]

@@mervynstent1578 sadly merv like most of the so called free western democracies

[@markroberts2964]

So much for ozzy being a energy world leader they can't even supply enough for the country

[@patriot77185]

We do have more resources than other countries, only problem is Labor has been bought by the crazy climate fraud (obviously being paid by the Great Reset looneys) I am hoping a great revolution comes sooner than later !!!!

[@iknowaboutroaches3098]

They've always been legends in their own minds....lol

[@junkyarddog4411]

“Planet of the Humans” is worth watching for an insight into the reality of “green” energy.

[@Johnsmith-zi9pu]

Australia's solar panels , windmill blades and batteries are biodegradable, the greens would support them otherwise.

[@jsuter2849]

I watched it. It took all of about 10 minutes research and its central claims are easily disproven. You should try it sometime.

[@yggdrasil9039]

Better off watching the critiques of Planet of the Humans. The fake documentary uses data from 25 years ago to discredit technology in 2021.

[@popeyedoyle3649]

@@Johnsmith-zi9pu wrong! Battery's are not biodegradable, and neither ARE windmills!

[@TheBandit7613]

Look at Germany. They have the most renewables in the world. 150% of their needs IF they are running at capacity. They only account for 7% because wind and solar are so unreliable. They have had to re-open their coal fired plants. And Germany's coal is some of the dirtiest available. Nuclear is the ONLY option. Everything else is unicorn farts.

[@alanhoff89]

Car is electric, but that electricity comes from coal 😂😂

[@onlyme4683]

Pumped hydro in a country in drought just 3 years ago. Can’t make this stuff up.

[@ashado4489]

Australia consumes 250,000 GWh of energy every year. The energy storage capacity of Snowy Hydro 2 scheme is 350GWh. Even if we assume we need to store 10% of the requirement, we need to build 71 Snowy hydro schemes. Remember that Snowy 2 is only connecting two existing reservoirs by tunnels to achieve this storage at a cost of an estimated $10billion (including connection to the grid) and will take a total of 9 years (2017-2026) to complete. If you were to build two new reservoirs and connect them, the would be several fold for just one scheme. Imagine the cost and time scale for 71 Snowy 2 type projects with new reservoirs. These people are living in Wonderland.

[@margaretarmstrong2445]

Well said!

[@popeyedoyle3649]

Very well said, well said!

[@Nill757]

1. Today, there is Snowy Hydro 2, so please no “is”. 2. When and if it does come online, it won’t be anywhere close to 350 GWh. It can’t deplete the upper reservoir to that extent regardless of hype, nor will there ever be sufficient transmission to push 350 GWh in out of SH2.

[@totaramgandhi5117]

Since you know so much, why didn't you give your expertise to the guys who were in government the last 9 years? And you really think that just giving some numbers in one paragraph can solve the problem or even cast some light on the problem? People have written huge reports on this issue running to hundreds of pages. Why don't you comment on those? Do you even know that these reports exist?

[@ashado4489]

@@totaramgandhi5117 I don't "know" so much. Being an engineer, I study and analyse the situation before accepting any opinions, and if I am proved wrong by providing facts against my argument, I do accept and correct myself. Instead of ascribing political motives to my post, please provide factual evidence to prove I am wrong. I look at it from a purely engineering economics perspective (after practicing engineering in the private sector for 50 years). I do not care whether it is the Labor or Coalition that makes these decisions, it simply does not stack up. And I am not alone in this opinion. It helps to read all arguments and come to a conclusion based on analysis, rather than blindly following self-serving political debates. Yes, I have studied this and the alternative battery storage ideas in detail and read lots of reports, and battery idea is even worse. Obviously I cannot write a report in these posts. Without a nuclear back up option, Australia is hurtling at high speed blindfolded into an abyss.

[@jcramond73]

And still you cannot recycle most of the materials that make up the fans and solar panels.

[@TheMadge65]

That’s right. All that lovely toxic landfill.

[@a.salmon8193]

The West is run by fools. It doesn't bode well.

[@mdent23]

thats bullshit- most of the turbines are made of steel- catch a clue sometime /somewhere

[@som980]

There is no money in recycling things. But there is huge money invested in green energy. So it's not clean energy but greed for money.

[@aaronnoyb]

@@mdent23 America, Germany and China are either burying or burning the turbine blades. Most, by weight is recyclable steel, most, by size is buried or burned.

[@derekmoore2779]

U can expect coal fired power plants to put no equipment in as u put them out of business

[@makemoneyonline7337]

Sign up and get $100 to spend on Roblox go2affm.com/c/?p=20130&o=8892

[@tassied12]

Coal plants are a 20th century solution for a 21st century electricity market, which is why they are going out of business

[@rsdokc]

And wind/solar are sooooo reliable . The insanity is off the charts

[@oldman2800]

The global warming movement is a classic cult.

[@thejollygreendragon8394]

Yeah. And just to satisfy the cult, BHP announced it is closing its Mt Arthur Coal Mine, with the loss of at least two thousand jobs, because it failed to find a buyer and is in a push to reduce carbon emissions

[@Jim-yk9zw]

Scientists claimed snow would be a thing of the past by the year 2000. Or that certain islands (can't remember which one now) would be underwater by 2010, when they are absolutely not. These are the same tools driving the hysteria that will ruin all of us but the already filthy rich and politicians.

[@daman7129]

Yep, that's old news. They are totally brainwashed.

[@iknowaboutroaches3098]

It's a grift....

[@adrianjohn.]

yes i agree that somebody should be calling crimestoppers on these disruptive lunatic criminals?😤😠

[@johngeier8692]

A lot of people in positions of power in both major parties are afflicted with the Climate Delusion. The false and delusional belief that mans effects on the earth’s climate are significant and dangerous. Hopefully, this crisis will “shock “ a few of them out of it.

[@freddieqmercury5961]

Politicians all around the world are the same, USELESS!, they could not find work in the private sector.

[@trevorarthurson6815]

Get ready for the CARBON TAX, it’s coming soon.

[@oldnutta7611]

@EcoDemoSocio the only way you can get them to pay more taxes is either introduce new taxes or change existing tax laws .

[@VK4VO]

@EcoDemoSocio FWIT again, like all those foreign owned renewable energy investors and companies???

[@joedennehy386]

@@oldnutta7611 he said it sarcastically

[@johngeier8692]

Liquid hydrocarbon fuels have been taxed at the pump for decades. The tax was recently temporarily reduced due to a sharp increase in wholesale prices. The big issue is the Climate Delusion and associated Climate Fraud. Billions of dollars of taxpayers money are being misappropriated on uneconomical and unreliable renewable energy projects.

[@Ceciliaseg64]

whoever designs a farthometer (CO2 emissions from your rear)will get the seal of approval

[@aib0160]

In the UK the wind stopped blowing for nearly a month last year. That's some battery required!

[@jamieorourke767]

That's a lie

[@stumarston6812]

You're gonna need a really HUGE battery.

[@totaramgandhi5117]

@@stumarston6812 It's called reversible pumped hydro. Already functioning and needing more to be built. And can you imagine the wind stopped blowing in the whole of the UK for one month? Hilarious lies. 😂

[@HistoryGe3k]

Australia has HUGE amounts of coal reserves. Australia is a major coal exporter. Lets use our coal to generate power at a lower cost and forget this green bullshit before it bankrupts the country. We can certainly continue to make the coal stations run as clean as possible but coal is a low cost fuel that can provide Australians with lower power prices.

[@linmal2242]

Yes, and is there a possibility of using the outgassing of power stations to pump up greenhouses for 'carbon offsets' or growing veg or other mitigating tasks.?

[@stumarston6812]

That's just it.....the lefties want to bankrupt the country. They despise Western countries.

[@thommysides4616]

What you are saying is sane, but sadly insanity is ruling the day!

[@totaramgandhi5117]

Tell that to the power companies. They don't believe it is low cost. Funny that.

[@HistoryGe3k]

@@linmal2242 - Not familiar with the technology you are referring to. However, on average (from memory) there is about 300-400 CO2 Parts per million in the air. The optimum level for plant growth is about 1000 parts per million. After 1000 parts per million, additional carbon will not improve plant productivity.

[@rickkinsman7400]

The elephant in the room that absolutely no one talks about is this; With the possible exception of dams, all solar, battery, and wind infrastructure has a working life of about 15 years, after which the entire cost of the project has to be paid for all over again to replace it all. let alone the cost of dismantling and disposing of all those non bio-degradable, and usually toxic, components. To top all this, with the proposed advent of electric vehicles needing charging every night, the added load on the grid and demand for extra power will crash the system which is barely coping now. At the recent election, 68% of Australians deliberately voted against this government, yet here we are. And the Liberals deliberately handed power to Labor.

[@totaramgandhi5117]

You seem to know more than anyone else. How is that?

[@bigbubba4314]

@@CRSolarice you paid $2000. Good for you. Who paid the balance? You know somebody did. Did you burden the taxpayers with the balance?

[@bigbubba4314]

@@CRSolarice so like I implied, you confirmed, the taxpayer got stuck with the bill for your solar. Good for you, but not a viable methodology for the entire population. Meanwhile, you advocate for the closure of fossil fuel energy production. What a model citizen you turned out to be.

[@neo-dyne322]

EU studies reveal that the cleanest energy is nuclear. The new generation nuclear plants use the spent rods from older plants to operate. However the greenest energy available is not an option for the greenies. They are fanatical about intermittent power sources that cause a lot more CO2 emissions just to manufacture and set in motion.

[@megru6385]

The greens are zealots, logic, facts and actual science are ignored to maintain their cultish beliefs.

[@collinwhites9833]

Similar story in the US, high gas prices with an aversion to building nuclear plants or more drilling are causing gas prices to double and contributing to serious inflation.

[@cosac6]

We can have useless nuclear submarines but not nuclear power stations, total stupidity.

[@snapon666]

@@CRSolarice you already have coal plants nat gas plants hydro power shutting them down to replace them ... making new windmills and power lines does nothing to reduce co2 you are fooling yourself if you think so ...powering one house is entirely different from supplying energy to industry ...how much co2 was produced making the batteries needed for wind and solar to even operate a house ? ...and its not us that are one sided ..its the left that DEMANDS solar and wind as the sole source of power ...shutting down existing plants to do so when those alternatives are not ready ...I live in commiefornia where the landscape is polluted with dead windmills abandoned by their investors who are now leaving their demolition to the state after only a 10 yr life

[@russellk.bonney8534]

years ago people like Bowen would have been diagnosed as intellectualy handicapoed.

[@richardsub5252]

That’s what the people want… we had our chance last month. Albo got a majority! Now enjoy the fall.

[@nevertrustthegovernment7749]

Spot on !!! What more can I say 🤔 😌

[@richardsub5252]

@@thommysides4616 you are probably right! Tools down boys let the feminist’s crash the ship. From the ashes will arise greatness.

[@andrewlace]

The cause of increased production costs is coal oil and gas, including adblue and fertilizer. Increasing interest rates will cause greater distressed sales of the family home. It's disgusting and the reserve bank and politicians needs to be held to account.

[@mypearl53]

we have to stop voting for the NWO majors

[@andrewlace]

@bkdk66 you're not one of 'the people'? You didn't forget? Or you read the political outcomes into the future? Very strange.

[@wyattfamily8997]

Never happen.

[@thewayneflyinghigh9128]

@@andrewlacenope renewables are dearer .

[@andrewlace]

@@thewayneflyinghigh9128 my comment relates to the increased cost of resources. I fully agree that renewables are dearer and "renewables" is a great deal marketing double talk.

[@stenkarasin2091]

In regard to energy, Australia doesn't seem to have coherent policy, they have a tangle of wishes and fantasies. Somedays I can't help feeling I've stumbled into Alice in Wonderland and Albo is beginning to look more and more like the Red Queen.

[@ikeskifan]

In the United States it's the same deal their policies make no sense they're anti-productive The result Hi gas prices.

[@donavonlarney]

@EcoDemoSocio eco flog bot

[@Design_no]

@EcoDemoSocio in 3 years you will still be going on about the previous govt. But, post next election it will be somebody else's turn to talk that way about this govt. Enjoy yourself while you can Echo. 🙃

[@petergouvignon8048]

@EcoDemoSocio it is usually futile to try to talk facts to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.

[@rubyvuk3986]

@EcoDemoSocio is there any diference between parties?I don't think so,they all blindly follow US,WEF,WHO agenda.

[@johanweakley2658]

What is alarming and extremely concerning is that these politicians believe themselves. What are they going to do when the lights start going off because of their idiotic actions?

[@SamsungSamsung-md9xq]

Remember,there are more of us than them,go cut the power off to their houses,give them a taste of what is coming,I am sure they have gen sets,them against us,always the rich and powerful against the workers and their families,and don't let them bring in a digital currency,or we will be screwed like the Chinese,and Canada!

[@andrewsarchus6036]

Blame Putin. Like they do for each and every other clusterfuck of their own Globalist making.

[@jcampbell6822]

Their are bunch of bird brains

[@archer8597]

@@jcampbell6822 Solar and battery and Tesla - laughing

[@micuentaparaforosycosas3484]

They won't worrie, 'cause they won't have the problem. You think _their_ lights will go off?

[@ronmcdon01]

Nuclear could solve soooooo many issues at once

[@captainchokdee1039]

All the 🤡’s in one place at one time. What a perfect opportunity for a “Great Reset”!

[@j0hnf_uk]

If this, 'green energy', was as effective as they claimed it to be, surely we'd be using it wholesale by now? But no, it's fringe at best, due to it's unreliability of not being, 'on', whenever it's needed. i.e. on cloudy days and when it's not windy. Hardly a basis for a country's energy requirements, is it?

[@rebeccamartinez7053]

The same here in California removed 30% of fossil fuel energy to wind & solar. They also removed hydroelectric dams to generate power. So now at 4:00 p.m. daily power is scarce & more expensive. Let's Go Brandon!

[@darwinjina]

just don't turn on your AC. or charge your car.

[@markbeale7390]

Wots wrong with hydro.

[@darwinjina]

@@markbeale7390 Its not rare that its being attacked as bad for the fish wildlife. Personally, I like hydro

[@markbeale7390]

@@darwinjina funnily hydros can pollute the environment, by leaking small amounts of hydraulic oil.did maintenance on a Kaplan turbine to fix leak.

[@markbeale7390]

@@darwinjina wind turbines bad for birds.

[@mdturnerinoz]

Really Weird is asking us to freeze on cold nights while the Millennials et al party in bloody Vivid! WTF?

[@paulgregory4102]

China is laughing there heads off

[@damo7722]

@@paulgregory4102 exactly they are building dozens a coal plants a year while we are trying to sabotage our remaining 10. Why are Aussies so blind to the obvious?

[@paulgregory4102]

@@damo7722 just heard Joe Biden wants to put big fans driven by diesel in front of wind turbines when there is no wind to turn the propellers the big fans will then make the turbines work you couldn't make it up could you 🙄

[@damo7722]

@@paulgregory4102 omfg 🤦‍♂️🤣

[@paulgregory4102]

@@damo7722 we are run like a load of senile lunatics hope we can get out of this mess for our children's sake hopefully we will win if everyone wakes up I don't know where you are from but bless your country and you all take care

[@tonyprice9525]

Batteries also die. What are the greens doing about disposal of these highly toxic metals? Nothing. Same goes for wind turbine blades and solar panels. One suspects they just want to make that spmeone else's problem. In the end it will come down to dumping somewhere outback way.

[@georgepoitras3502]

They have no plan. They just want to feel like they are doing something.

[@tonyprice9525]

@@georgepoitras3502 But people get killed as a result. The guy on a ventilator at home when the power goes off. The Mom and kids in a motor accident caused by the traffic lights not working. This virtue signalling is far from virtuous or harmless. It is frequently deadly.

[@margaretarmstrong2445]

Tony I live in the regions where this infrastructure is being installed. Our country is farmland. Australia has a total of 6% arable land and this is where they installing wind and solar. Thousands of square kilometres across Australia is being utilised for renewables. You are right, we are the dumping ground for this infrastructure. We are being shat on!

[@Nathan-ry3yu]

That they do. And if you look it up for a full depending solar power systems to power a entire home. You be looking at a tesla solar system that will cost between $24.000 to $26000 with 4 batteries. After 3 to 4 years the batteries need to be changed costing around $12000 and the solar panels need to be maintained or they can catch fire. I don't think the average Jo can afford to do this. And since Australia has a lot of renters. Who's going to put solar panels on their home? I don't think the government will rebate solar panels more than once. And I highly doubt people landlord will cover the cost of solar panels for the renters home. And if they did it will be only be a average system making people in need of a secondary power source that may not be reliable wind power turbine? It will suck in summer trying to run the air conditioner.

[@covahredro8370]

@@georgepoitras3502 The useful idiots who follow them and believe in the hoax don't have plan, but their puppet masters do, and that's to take your right and enslave you to their tyrannical will.

[@stevenguegens7047]

Well one thing I'll NEVER do and that's when THEY eventually bring out a battery operated aeroplane I WON'T NEVER be going overseas in ONE of THOSE 💯💯 percent 👎

[@thedave7760]

There will never be an electric plane that will be capable of going on any long distance flights with hundreds of people on board.

[@thejollygreendragon8394]

@@thedave7760 Never ?

[@papabetadine724]

Yeah everyone has to peddle onboard to keep the turbines spinning XD

[@thedave7760]

@@thejollygreendragon8394 not in our lifetime. Have you looked into how difficult it is currently? It makes hyperloop look pheasable,

[@thommysides4616]

Planes fly above the clouds so a solar plane would be totally safe to fly in.... Just pray a big bird doesn't crash into one of the solar panels on the wings.... ha ha!

[@Design_no]

Albo, planning his next trips to Europe. Meanwhile, in Australia ...

[@Design_no]

@EcoDemoSocio what exactly is this PROGRESSIVE nation that you keep referring to?

[@petergouvignon8048]

@EcoDemoSocio "Everything will be easy under Albanese" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤩🤩

[@Josh_Stuchbery]

@EcoDemoSocio Oh please. Albo, who supposedly cares so much about the environment, jumped on a plane to Japan the moment he was sworn in. If he cares so much about cutting emissions, then all air travel should cease immediately. The only thing progressive leaders are good at is being massive hypocrites.

[@GordonPavilion]

@@petergouvignon8048 thinking, is a massive undertaking for you, isn’t it?

[@GordonPavilion]

Morrison and Hawaii….remember that?

[@soniavadnjal7553]

Can't help myself, most of these pollies seem to me like a bunch of actors. Those, anyway, who appear to be motivated by ambition alone. Ambition for themselves, not the country.

[@tomcat3070]

of cause they are there not voted by smarts there voted by likes popularity wins an election not smarts lol people are the problem not politicians

[@stokersruleok5863]

Batteries , solar and wind do not cut it. Base load power is needed! I remember they said Bondi will end up at Bathurst. Lies , all lies..

[@johngeier8692]

The Climate Delusion and associated Climate Fraud. The biggest fraud in history.

[@Nathan-ry3yu]

No we can get it. $24.000 for a full dependable solar system to power a home that will include atleast 3 to 4 batteries. But every 3 years you will need to replace the batteries costing anywhere between $8000 to $12000 and who has the money for that? Not the average Jo. And then renters who's going to put solar panels on their home? The landlord? Good luck with that to people. Best reliable power source is nuclear and this government going to find out the hard way along with their next term election campaign when they find out they really are a one term government

[@cathryncavaney5070]

Gee, imagine if Tony Abbott's dam plan had been followed...we owe that failure to Jacqui Lambie, don't we?

[@thejollygreendragon8394]

And now we have 2 Lambie Senators. How good is that. Poor Eric, got his backside kicked by a Lambie gal :) Just like Tony got his backside kicked by a gal also :) How double good is that

[@regynaught]

We need recall elections like the US does

[@chazman4461]

Good luck. It rarely works in the US.

[@Forexfox99]

Nuclear power please

[@chrismarshall6647]

Build small nuclear reactor sites close to load centres. A Canadian Candu heavy water reactor will produce plenty of power with no plutonium as a by-product. It produces tritium as a by-product which is used in medical imaging equipment . This is a very stable safe reactor which has a good performance record in Canada .

[@totaramgandhi5117]

Show me where they are.

[@chrismarshall6647]

@@totaramgandhi5117 In Canada. We have a nuclear fleet of plants in Ontario Canada . They are very reliable and have an excellent track record for safety as well as production. They can be built both large and small.

[@williamblack7813]

This is correct. But our Politicians, except maybe Pauline Hansen and M. Roberts are too plain stupid to see this. We need to face it.... most politicians are unsuccessful lawyers with NO understanding of science concepts. To put it simply, every one of them (esp. Kean) should have the following acronyms listed after their name: DAS NFI SFB CAH and experts at TSU!

[@sheriffroylambifs894]

I HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR DECADES...AND I AM HEARING ABSOLUTE TRUTH via FACTS FROM THIS MAN !!!!!!!

[@johnt7696]

Have a look at the petrol and diesel generator sales at the moment . As quick as they come in they sell. That good for emmissions

[@Nathan-ry3yu]

What at fuel prices?

[@jackbrechwald8344]

All Australian politicians still believe in the Tooth Fairy-as a matter of policy.

[@chrishewitt1165]

We have had the net zero policy for a while now. This is the result

[@johngeier8692]

Net Zero intelligence and Net Zero common sense.

[@stephenw2992]

Net zero electricity by 2030

[@HelloWorld-ns7gt]

If you are too cold, wear warmer clothes. If you are to warm, wear cooler clothes DOH.

[@sallycent6598]

It is easy solution just build a new coals fire stations, and the problem is solved.

[@Sean-op1bx]

​@@sallycent6598 The problem is mining companies export most of the fossil fuels as they get a better price overseas. There is a power shortage because the government has price caps on wholesale power electricity prices and companies don't want to operate at a loss. So they cut power to operate to make a profit. This is why privatisation of infrastructure is bad

[@DJ-yj1vg]

@@sallycent6598 they could if the banks would lend them money. But since 2011 banks have refused loans to build new coal fired power stations. It's an uneven market. Imagine working at factory and then being told you can't expand the business. There would be no incentive to keep pumping money into a business that can't keep up with demand. The govt, banks, media have totally screwed over this energy market.

[@sallycent6598]

@@Sean-op1bx Certainly those companies are greedy want to get more profits. However, the climate change activities are making it harder for them to start projects to get more resources and coals of the ground to keep up with demands.

[@DJ-yj1vg]

@@sallycent6598 yep and the greenies are blocking their possible expansion here both at govt level, in banks. And Alps tax on top 200 emitters of c02 hasn't got through yet. That's another $35m/yr bill.

[@blackknight3496]

10000 km of transmission lines does Greenies think about our country and how it's getting wrecked

[@SamsungSamsung-md9xq]

At a cost of 1 trillion dollars!

[@SamsungSamsung-md9xq]

Greenies live on another planet,I swear!

[@Unsound-Engineer]

We are royaly screwed.

[@TCM215]

It's by design

[@jem8423]

Hypocrisy has to be made an indictable and jailable offence when from the mouths of politicians.

[@farticusmaximusOG]

How's that DAVOS thing goin'?

[@Prognosis__]

👍The unelected elites have already decided for us about our health, how much carbon footprint we use and the use of digital currency. Western government is in lockstep.

[@vivrowe2763]

@@Prognosis__ so correct, but they don't know much in Australia about that, look blank if you mention it. They like the MSM too much.

[@Wide_Awake708]

@@Prognosis__ Spot on 👍

[@sallycent6598]

Those organisations are corrupted, the poor people are paying for their luxurious lives style.

[@tomjones5338]

The Australian politicians are drooling there anxious waiting for their master Klaus Schwab to say ur invited over

[@AximandTheCursed]

The cheapest fix in the short-to-mid term is to upgrade the coal plants, with a few gas peakers where needed, then unlock the Uranium/Thorium solution to secure the long-term, not the over-hyped, under-performing and powerfully over-priced rebuildables and doesn't-exist-yet storage!

[@Sean-op1bx]

It's funny how the states with the least renewables have high power prices while Tas and SA are doing better than the east coast. SA is only having trouble because SA carries the east coast's lack of cheap power.

[@VK4VO]

@@Sean-op1bx Bollocks, QLD has cheap electricity, I'm on 17c p/kw and QLD has only around 6 to 8% rebuildables. And SA are running on GAS at the moment.

[@Sean-op1bx]

@@VK4VO You're right about how SA is currently running on gas currently. But check out the last 24-hour performance where the state was about 83% renewable on AEMO.

[@joedennehy386]

Exactly

[@AximandTheCursed]

@@Sean-op1bx It's funny how SA only keeps the lights on at night because they're leeching off of Victoria's grid, who are in turn leeching off of NSW's Grid, who are in turn leeching off of QLD's grid... and Tasmania can only claim high renewables because of the viability of hydropower, which was already there... Total energy consumption Australia-wide for 2020, renewables including hydro accounted for only 7% of the mix... at massive expense, because unlike gas and coal, the renewables don't generate any useful revenue, and cannot be efficiently or cheaply stored, and therefore most of what they generated goes to waste. Also, SA remains the most expensive in terms of power prices in Australia, so cut the crap.

[@victoriawest7261]

The great reset you will own nothing and be happy

[@darksideblues135]

Batteries do not store energy. They have a fixed entry potential that requires energy to release it. Also, co2 isn’t a pollutant. It’s good and needed for plants.

[@guanghunglo3594]

Mr Kenny has nailed it once again!

[@rogertull8888]

IF YOU GET RID OF COAL AND GAS POWER STATIONS, AUSTRALIA WILL NEED TO START BUILDING NUCLEAR POWER STATIONS

[@factorylad5071]

But Australia already has nuclear 💊 medicine.

[@valenrn8657]

@@factorylad5071 It's just a 20 MW nuclear reactor.

[@rogertull8888]

@@factorylad5071 A SMALL REACTOR AT LUCAS HEIGHTS IN SYDNEY

[@1knightinbangkok946]

Nuclear will be the energy source in the future. But it will cost alot in wasted time and money for governments to realise this.

[@rogertull8888]

@@1knightinbangkok946 NOW THAT AUSTRALIA IS GETTING NUCLEAR SUBS, WE NEED TO BUILD AT LEAST 20 HIGH CAPACITY REACTORS, AND ONLY COMMISSION THEM AS NEEDED, KEEPING THE REST IN STANDBY MODE UNTIL NEEDED

[@Nathan-ry3yu]

Solar panels and batteries aren't cheap. And every few years you have to change the batteries that will cost a few thousand dollars each. And if the Solar panels not maintained they have a good chance of catching fire.as many have been a nightmare for some businesses and residential homes in the US. I think Solar power systems are okay if you have the cash to buy new batteries every few years but who can do that. Maybe some people but not all. Some people struggle to even service their cars let alone come up with $6000 for new batteries for their house.. it's not really a good solution for reliable energy. Sources. Wind turbine power you need a lot of wind for it to be reliable. On a still day it won't produce any power. And need a lot off them to just generate enough electricity for just a average size town. Let alone the country. Hydropower will stop enough water flowing to our rivers for agriculture Australia is the driest continent on earth. The largest river in Australia is the Murry river and it already has a Hydro dam. And it don't produce enough power for a city. I think the best reliable power source would be nuclear power. It seems this government wants to do what they want, not the country they suposed to be representing. And they wonder why they only been a 1 term government

[@louisejeffries7155]

Batteries are an environmental hazard It’s not just the buying new batteries Try getting rid of an old defunct one, even a simple car battery They use child labour to make batteries too They are a social and environment hazard through and through

[@totaramgandhi5117]

This government hasn't done anything yet. What are you talking about? Who is the 1 term government? Are you on crack?

[@MH-gg9fz]

Follow the money

[@jimgiles4390]

Absolutely ridiculous

[@derekmoore2779]

What a joke , battery plant , when does it charge the batteries after no sun, wind

[@totaramgandhi5117]

Learn some engineering. It might help.

[@Vintagevanessa99]

its like living in a Lewis Carroll novel - ''were all mad here !!''

[@chrisprior1225]

Australians need to go through this pain, they voted these people in, they can also vote them out eventually, but not before extreme hardship, populist government is the answer!

[@Nathan-ry3yu]

Labor has only ever been a 1 term government mate. I think they set themselves up to be just that

[@thejollygreendragon8394]

@@Nathan-ry3yu Oh, when was that ?

[@totaramgandhi5117]

@@thejollygreendragon8394 Don't ask difficult questions. Some of these people can hardly count.

[@archer8597]

They voted ! Deal with it

[@donmcleod3674]

Gee i wonder if cargo / container / cruise ships, not to mention personal jetski,s and the family fishing boat, can all run on solar? Or maybe just put sails on everything!

[@som980]

Algore has already a private jet covered with solar panels and heavy battery which he uses for climate change talks.

[@donmcleod3674]

@@som980 al gore is a rich imbecile.

[@banjerism7281]

Billions of $ on new transmission lines, batteries etc and Snowy 2 billions of $ over budget and years behind schedule. And renewable energy is cheaper?

[@tiesword3252]

KENNY...SPOT ON.....

[@JimDornan-rr7pk]

Please keep up the good work. We need more worriers in the media like yourself.

[@murielbuxton6993]

Nice for politicians. Prices for power goes higher? Let's give ourselves a pay rise.

[@petergouvignon8048]

"climate wars" it is usually futile to try to talk facts to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance. "Everything will be easy under Albanese" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@camt8804]

So you watch Sky News so you can feel morally superior in your ignorance.

[@petergouvignon8048]

@@camt8804 why do watch it? go watch the project!!!!!!

[@camt8804]

@@petergouvignon8048 Project doesn't have enough content on Hunter Bidens laptop or transgender bathrooms. Sky is the only place to find it.

[@petergouvignon8048]

@@camt8804 CNN go there 👌👌

[@camt8804]

@@petergouvignon8048 Have you ever watched CNN or are you just repeating what Sky/Fox News tells you?

[@vegasrick6556]

The govt should only make sure its people have what they want, not decide what it needs.

[@gavinbottcher9174]

I don't think I'll ever get used of that Albo as prime Minister good thing is it'll only be 3 year's.

[@williamchilds2023]

Can anyone tell me how many solar panels and batteries will be need to run a major city like Sydney for one week without any sun generation? Add in all EVs as well. Would we have enough land available in Australia.

[@totaramgandhi5117]

@Will R Thomson These people aren't actually interested in an answer. It's a rhetorical question designed to prove their prejudice that it is not possible.

[@philhohnen6193]

Coal is gold!

[@GordonPavilion]

Your comment is sh*t

[@thejollygreendragon8394]

Gold ? Then why is BHP announcing it is closing its Mt Arthur Coal Mine before 2030 ? Because it failed to find a buyer, because your so callled 'Gold' is on the way out

[@philhohnen6193]

@@thejollygreendragon8394 Only because politicians and the deceived public want people to pay higher prices for unreliable ("renewable") energy. Coal is the rational choice, but if you're not....

[@GordonPavilion]

@@thejollygreendragon8394 truth

[@thejollygreendragon8394]

@@philhohnen6193 Renewable energy is cheaper and more reliable. It is the coal stations which are unreliable and keep failing. But you are not told that here, are you In time people will find it harder to push the crap which is sold here

[@bapcorp8303]

Seriously Mr Bean would be a better PM

[@karenielsen4713]

When politicians agree over the board - we get screwed… yup.. Covid, anyone? 😂

[@jackking5567]

Re Pumped Hydro: It isn't a form of power generation. It's a form of power storage. Politicians forget that. The very name pumped hydro means just that - masses of electrical energy is used to pump a liquid (water) from a low point to a high point. Then, when a quick boost is needed, the water is allowed to flow through a hydro generator back to that low point. We're talking zero gains in electricity and instead we see losses through energy conversion. Such schemes in the UK provide just a few minutes of instant electricity to help bolster the National Electricity Grid when surges happen such as the whole nation returning home and cooking food/having a shower etc. For any government minister to include such a thing as pumped hydro as a form of power generation is not just wholly misleading, it's a damned lie.

[@totaramgandhi5117]

It's not generation. It is storage, but if it includes flowing water like a river and a dam it could include generation. Too hard for you to grasp I suppose.

[@calvinpurdy2668]

Having worked as an electrician at a pump storage power station in South Africa, I feel I need to educate you in how they operate. What you say is true in as much as the water is let down a huge tunnel and over the turbines and into a lower dam. Late at night, after the peak, the same generators are used as electric motors and the water is pumped back up into the top dam. BUT HERE IS WHAT YOU HAVE MISSED. The power used to pump the water back up, is "off peak" power which is bought at a much cheaper rate than the power that is sold at " peak time". Also during winter when there is an abundance of rain, the water in the lower dam is not pumped back up, but discharged into the sea. This makes for a very profitable power station. If you care to google the Steenbras Power Station, you might realise that your rant is a little silly.

[@totaramgandhi5117]

@@calvinpurdy2668 What is silly? Any excess renewable generation is always cheap - it has a marginal cost of almost zero. Do you understand that? Using it to pump water back up is always profitable. As an electrician, you assume you are an electrical engineer - tough luck, it's not so simple.

[@soniavadnjal7553]

Matt Jean looks so young. And naive. In spite of his bald head. (But some babies are born with little or no hair). Edit: of course I mean Kean.

[@archer8597]

Time for Sky news to get behind the Australian government Be a patriot

[@andyharman3022]

Build dormitories full of exercise bikes connected to generators. Chain the politicians that voted for Green Energy to them, and let them make up the shortfall in power.

[@davidcruse6589]

I wonder how much it would've cost to up grade our old dirty coal station to nice clean coal stations I bet hell alot cheap also reliable and greener

[@danielharwood408]

what fairy tail land do you live in where 'clean coal' exists ?

[@davidcruse6589]

It's what China was changing them to and had to buy our coal as it's classed as clean coal with refit of power stations It's why they ended up taking loads from boat they refused that sat their a year

[@totaramgandhi5117]

@@davidcruse6589 I suspect you have no idea about what you are talking about, but never mind. Blather on!!

[@Blacksheepishot]

Solar panels ain't cheap found this 200 watt 12 volt triple fold out panel assembly for about 300 bucks. 200 watts of 12 volt power ain't much next to what is required to power up one small house.. Heck, the hot water heater alone consumes 4000+ watts 240 vac everytime it energizes those top and bottom elements. Even my led 42" TV consumes 344 watts at 120 ac volts. When you factor in the fridge or that AC, that's when these panels fall short. Draw backs you bet for these solar panels only produce 12 volts of dc power that must be converted to AC using an inverter? Thus, this turning that 200 watts into very little 120 ac amps. That means it will take many more of these panels or much larger ones to meet just 30% of my maximum power needs...

[@Nathan-ry3yu]

Not just it's not cheap. If you want full dependable power you be looking at a tesla solar system for around $14000 to $16000. With about 2 or 3 batteries per home. Every 3 and half years you will need to change the batteries costing you around $8000 to replace. Also the solar panels need to be maintained or they can catch fire. This already happened to many businesses and residential homes in the US . Even though. Australia might be able to get insurance. I don't think the government going to rebate everyone more than once getting solo panels put on. . And since Australia have a lot of renters that don't even own their homes. Who's going to give them solar power. The owners might but charge them an extra 200 a week more in rent. Oh you want get no electricity bill. Just a big fucking rent bill

[@Phonehomefool]

120v ac is terrible to run a house, that’s why virtually only the US does it

[@valenrn8657]

My reverse cycle aircon system has a 5.8 KW power input. My four-burners stove and hot water system are powered by natural gas. It's about 6 to 7 KW to replace natural gas four burners.

[@5RndsFFE]

Portable fold up panels are always going to be more expensive than fixed panels due to difficulty in manufacturing. Solar and wind supplementing a nuclear lead system is the way forward.

[@andyharman3022]

There you go, using math when you should just feel really good about solar panels. If you want your $300 solar panel to recharge your EV overnight, you just have to really, really, really believe in it.

[@stephenbrickwood1602]

A decade of wonderful engineering and building and the lights and power fail within hours of a new government waking into the building. Most good construction comes with a guarantee of lasting more than 5 minutes. And what really creates love from ordinary people is that the LNP thinks that the Australian voters are brilliant, you arrogant lovely man..

[@dianelabbe801]

If this is any consolation, US and Canada are in the same situation. It is just worded differently.

[@zarach9459]

There are communities in Africa that have solar panels and wind generators, but they are small isolated communities that don't really use electricity other than to keep lights and essential appliances like refrigerators running, plus they always have a backup generator for when the solar panels and wind generators do not provide enough electricity.

[@geoffreyveale7715]

Exactly the same for a big system. You need backup, fast response, gas turbine generators of standby for when the sun don't shine and the wind don't blow. Pumped hydro is only a big battery and will not help if the wind don't blow for a few days, or if it is cloudy for a few days. Cloudy means virtually no solar power. When you factor in the need for all the fossil fuel backup generators on standby, and extra network costs, solar and wind are the MOST EXPENSIVE power you can make. This is reality.

[@bigbubba4314]

What? They don’t have air conditioning?

[@totaramgandhi5117]

@@geoffreyveale7715 Please reveal your sources of information and data. Don't make up stuff.

[@geoffreyveale7715]

@@totaramgandhi5117 The facts speak for themselves. If renewables were cheapest China and India would be building renewables and not coal and nuclear. You would not need to coerce governments to build renewables if it was cheap. Every place that has embraced renewables has had huge power increases. It is a con for China to sell windmills and solar panels.

[@totaramgandhi5117]

@@geoffreyveale7715 Who told you India and China are not building renewables? Please check your "facts" before you blather. They are building whatever they can and that includes all types, including renewables. Sorry to burst your bubble.

[@shadowlander3073]

I'm sure a few 100 other viewers already mentioned this but... It amazes me still that Greens seem to leave out the fact that turbine blades and solar panels are not reçycleable! They don't even have a long Life span. Not to mention that many of the components, including the actual panels, are made in China. When you actually sit down and run the numbers from drawing board to the hands of consumer, their carbon footprint is giant and we still have the end of life to deal with! Good luck Greens, you need it, because you are beginning look pretty Black from my window.

[@leedepalma5773]

Nothing to do with climate all about control

[@TelThePower]

Here in the UK the government would rather give £400 to nearly every household than clamp down on the energy companies... How can that cost of billions be beneficial? it's all a scam, the energy companies will rise it by £1200 so the householder is still at £800 loss.. & don't get me started on the fuel scam 🤣

[@xspotbox4400]

Renewables and batteries for individual use, fossil fuels for cities and industry.

[@TOOTSWEET61]

Lord help us if we are attacked by an enemy, and we have no power because the suns not shining, and the winds not blowing. Sitting ducks is what we will be.

[@Sean-op1bx]

Its a lot easier to send a missile to the 24 coal power stations than to blow up all the wind turbines and solar on household rooftops

[@margaretarmstrong2445]

@@Sean-op1bx The new transmission lines will be owned, largely by the Chinese. You don't think they'll have the power to shut them down?

[@totaramgandhi5117]

@@margaretarmstrong2445 The power companies are also owned by foreigners (largely Chinese?) So what are you on about?

[@Antipodean33]

I'd love to see a serious costing on all this so called green energy, against what we had in abundance, coal. By the time you factor in the very expensive cost of green energy like wind turbines, huge cost to build and transport, only produce power in a very narrow window, too much wind they cease to produce power, not enough wind same thing. Also with solar panels I saw a scientist explaining that the making of the panels, in itself is a serious polluting exercise. Plus as we know many greenies who bang on about climate are major polluters themselves, Al Gore is notorious for this. Just the heating of one of his swimming pools, used the same amount of electricity (coal powered btw) as nearly 200 family homes in the area a year. Or the British dude Lineker, lecturing us all about our power usage whilst driving a petrol fueled 6 liter V8 sports Mercedes. Or the DAVOS gang, who broke the record recently for the amount of private jets at this airport at the same time. Normal travel is for peasants, Klaus Schwab and all the other heads of these unelected world organizations are too good to travel like everyone else, no it's private jets only for these carers of the planet

[@sutty6779]

Has anyone come up with a total subsidy figure for the around three percent renewable energy generation, the figure should include both state and federal subsidies and cross-subsidies for solar power generation. I seem to remember having the option on my electricity account in the early nineties to purchase green energy, I suspect these subsidies go back probably thirty years.

[@kittehRwin]

wind and solar are the cheapest forms of energy production the real challenge at the moment is storage. The advantage of these technologies is that you don't have to continually buy fuel so the price of fuel and have price spikes from the cost of these commodities. The panels are made in China so you don't have to worry about pollution in Australia but if you build a new fossil fuel plant, that pollution remains here. The real energy problem is that the last government that was pro-coal didn't even build a new coal-powered plant, where is the new energy production?

[@MolecularArts]

@@kittehRwin "wind and solar are the cheapest forms of energy production" ... not including storage, transmission and backup costs. Once added, you have the most expensive energy.

[@batmanlives6456]

And the most efficient solar panels only convert 23% of available sunlight to energy… Besides the fact they only have a 10 to 15 years lifespan and will not be recycled Just garbage technology

[@patricksharp1063]

All these extra expensive trans mission lines are great, except on every calm night into the future where they will carry ZERO electricity

[@BradoQ]

The circus continues. Their actions do no follow their words