THE IDOL IS A DEPRAVED FASHION MESS

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Күн бұрын

Hbo Max's The Idol has come and gone thankfully, but certainly not without controversy. The show was highly anticipated as it would showcase Lily-Rose Depp as the star Jocelyn, The Weeknd as the cult leader Tedros, and would be directed by Euphoria's Sam Levinson. But when a Rolling Stone article dropped earlier this year alleging chaos and pornographic-level sex scenes, it spelled the end for the show. But seeing as the hype had been there, I thought I would try to watch it through, and I honestly regret it.
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@Petty_Mason
@Petty_Mason Жыл бұрын
The plot through fashion is much deeper than the actual plot
@aisyah_m
@aisyah_m Жыл бұрын
Fr 😔
@undercover_idiot
@undercover_idiot Жыл бұрын
It makes me more aware of the potential this show had if Sam and Weekday weren't creepy with it.
@dysmissme7343
@dysmissme7343 Жыл бұрын
💯
@mountaincraig9460
@mountaincraig9460 Жыл бұрын
I think the word you were looking for was crappy?
@lilit3307
@lilit3307 Жыл бұрын
​@@undercover_idiotWEEKDAY 💀
@MidnightMajesty
@MidnightMajesty Жыл бұрын
as a plus size woman, I really appreciated Destiny's outfits
@bece00
@bece00 Жыл бұрын
Yaasssss. She SLAYED
@RZTree
@RZTree Жыл бұрын
the best thing about the show is the fact that the plus size woman has the best outfits of all the characters
@magda0204
@magda0204 Жыл бұрын
LOVED her outfits
@TheFantasyClinic
@TheFantasyClinic Жыл бұрын
omg she was FABULOUS!
@HaloImageConsulting
@HaloImageConsulting Жыл бұрын
Her outfits killed🔥
@EliPride11
@EliPride11 Жыл бұрын
I'm speaking from complete ignorance because I didn't watch the show, but I absolutely hate her wardrove. It's so oversexualized even in situations where it doesn make sense, I bet even Kim Kardashian dresses mostly comfortable in her own house. Given the nature of the show some nudity has to happen and that's fine, but the execution just feels gross, as if the theme was just a superficial excuse to show Lilly half naked as much as possible. I'm sure there are women out there who enjoy dresssing sexy all the time (no judgement) but this is not a real woman, this is a creation made by bunch of men, and she is not the one choosing her clothes, a costume designer who is obliged to follow the vision of these men is, and in that case I am fully judging the choice of constantly sexualizing their main actress in a story that's supposed to criticize objectification of female artists.
@danicarakic2270
@danicarakic2270 Жыл бұрын
absolutely agreed
@taylorgayhart9497
@taylorgayhart9497 Жыл бұрын
Like in the dance scene there is NO WAY she didn’t have a tit pop out of that tiny top while dancing like that. She would have just been in regular workout clothes, like EVERY SINGLE behind the scenes video shows you of pop stars practicing.
@TheMostDivine
@TheMostDivine Жыл бұрын
to be fair, i wear equal or less clothing than jocelyn when i’m home alone in the summer… but ya i doubt that was the intention of the styling to represent a woman trying to keep cool & comfortable in la heat 🤣
@goldenretriever1528
@goldenretriever1528 Жыл бұрын
this show feels like just some incel's sexual fantasy
@OhWowIcantbelievethat
@OhWowIcantbelievethat Жыл бұрын
while I understand your point, I also wear almost nothing when i'm at home lol. to be fair it's not very stylish or intentional while jocelyn's definitely looks more for style than comfort
@clown-cult96
@clown-cult96 Жыл бұрын
Objecting and being uncomfortable with the exploitive sexuality in a Sam Levinson show doesn’t make you a prude. It makes you a normal, functioning human being.
@porker6584
@porker6584 Жыл бұрын
The show: ickening The styling: sickening 🤪
@iamnotjack.whydidichange
@iamnotjack.whydidichange Жыл бұрын
no. the styling was also gross
@missflop174
@missflop174 Жыл бұрын
The styling is sooo sickening. In the throwing up way
@anthill1510
@anthill1510 Жыл бұрын
Don`t watch more of the show, they shouldn`t get viewing numbers for this trash.
@levjerraz6983
@levjerraz6983 Жыл бұрын
Movie itself : sickening
@mel2d2
@mel2d2 Жыл бұрын
So, apparently the ending was meant to show that Jocelyn’s character was the master manipulator all along, and she was calling the shots now. (Because the hairbrush was brand new?!!) Whiiiiiich, makes it even more of a mess. Let’s never let those two men write anything ever again.
@SandraLopez-ll2ob
@SandraLopez-ll2ob Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it meant that even her abuse story might not have been true. This twist is probably the only good thing in the show
@pixiestxNyomouf
@pixiestxNyomouf Жыл бұрын
That scene confuses me because, didn't he see the brush before when he beat her with it?
@BeatrizOliveira-tf1if
@BeatrizOliveira-tf1if Жыл бұрын
Deep down Jocelyn was just this all evil woman who lies and pretends to be abused so she can use these poor little men. She is the embodiment of victim blaming discourse that abusers love using every time a new sexual assault scandal happens.
@SandraLopez-ll2ob
@SandraLopez-ll2ob Жыл бұрын
@@pixiestxNyomouf it was at night
@crypto4004
@crypto4004 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention she had multiple witnesses who also saw her mother beat and abuse her but somehow it was all made up? I feel like they forgot they wrote that in when it came to writing the ending
@shradhachawan4569
@shradhachawan4569 Жыл бұрын
I think the stylist really worked hard with the wardrobe choices. She must be expecting that like euphoria, the fashion in The Idol will be discussed heavily for its deeper meaning! Sadly the show is so trashy that it overshadows everything else! 😢
@pixiestxNyomouf
@pixiestxNyomouf Жыл бұрын
Not alot to talk about tbh
@rachelshimeall4294
@rachelshimeall4294 Жыл бұрын
I loved it! But I don’t mind shows that aren’t to be taken super seriously
@pixiestxNyomouf
@pixiestxNyomouf Жыл бұрын
@@rachelshimeall4294 bruh they literally bragged about how "serious" they (Abel and Sam) took the show....this is an insult to them 😂
@pixiestxNyomouf
@pixiestxNyomouf Жыл бұрын
@@rachelshimeall4294 bruh they literally bragged about how "serious" they (Abel and Sam) took the show....this is an insult to them 😂
@rachelshimeall4294
@rachelshimeall4294 Жыл бұрын
@@pixiestxNyomouf they can brag all they want to idk what that has to do with the finished product. It was rushed and the backlash gave us edited content that didn’t make sense. What about it did you think made it worth the plot being taken seriously? Maybe I’m missing something.
@BelaCurcio
@BelaCurcio Жыл бұрын
The way you seamlessly blended plot recap with fashion analysis kinda bodied me ngl you're a really talented writer Luke
@dysmissme7343
@dysmissme7343 Жыл бұрын
So true, he eally did a great job
@nicoyazawa5195
@nicoyazawa5195 Жыл бұрын
For real, for being primarily a fashion review, this is actually the best plot recap I’ve watched on this show so far!
@lululola8080
@lululola8080 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't love you anymore, Luke
@sybill123ful
@sybill123ful Жыл бұрын
the way the clothes told a better story than the actual show 😅
@doeeyes2
@doeeyes2 Жыл бұрын
What clothes? Thats not clothing, thats underwear.
@Teuwufel
@Teuwufel Жыл бұрын
@@doeeyes2 if you think that is what underwear looks like, I feel sorry for you.
@user-xd2oh2hd4f
@user-xd2oh2hd4f Жыл бұрын
Mental illness isn’t sams strongest suit, I just wish the fashion could be either like “I’d wear that” or “I love it but i wouldn’t wear it” like euphoria
@ASJyirod
@ASJyirod Жыл бұрын
Euphoria is about drug addicted teenagers, they dress with a sense of realism because they’re meant to be more relatable. The Idol is about manufactured pop singers, they’re not meant to dress like aren’t making 100k/night via tour.
@danielleoliver1734
@danielleoliver1734 Жыл бұрын
He literally locks the intimacy coordinator in the bathroom so Jocelyn can show nipple, it’s not subtle on Sam Levinsons views
@GFSaa-fr9be
@GFSaa-fr9be Жыл бұрын
😊😊
@ITSMETHESHEEP
@ITSMETHESHEEP Жыл бұрын
@@ASJyirodnothing is realistic about euphoria except rue and that’s cause Sam spend his childhood as an addict (which is probably why he’s so fucked in the head now)
@QTpatootie95
@QTpatootie95 Жыл бұрын
Can you not refer to that weird predatory freak by first name like you know him lmao he's literally creating content grooming an entire generation to think sexual violence is empowering and hot
@whyisthisdifferentnow
@whyisthisdifferentnow Жыл бұрын
I REALLY hate it when people say “I’m not a prude, but this seems like a bit much”, or something along those lines. Not wanting to see a woman in shorts with her ass cheeks hanging out, while a camera is up skirting her, does not make you a prude. Not wanting to see that shouldn’t need defending. And even if it wasn’t “prude-ish” to say that, so what? I’d rather be a prude, what whatever the hell Sam Levinson wants society to be.
@5050TM
@5050TM Жыл бұрын
I think some people just want women's bodies on display for their pleasure all the time. As if that's our purpose. To walk around titillating others, even if it's some fellow women.
@JNDReacts
@JNDReacts Жыл бұрын
I agree with your comment, but I also get why pretty much every reaction to this series has said that. I think it’s to preemptively counteract the trolls who will inevitably comment, “You just don’t like the show cuz you’re a prude.”
@sarahwatts7152
@sarahwatts7152 Жыл бұрын
Plus all these teeny tiny clothes just look...cold. Destiny's outfits are fabulous, and I don't think she had to huddle under a blanket between takes
@SauronsAccntnt
@SauronsAccntnt Жыл бұрын
I totally see what you mean, usually I'd feel the same but I think he repeated that because he wanted to convey to us that the nudity and risqué outfits would not really warrant mentioning if he felt it served a purpose, if it *actually* provided social commentary or was to make a **fashion moment** happen. Rather, this movie was just an excuse to objectify a few of the gals.
@benzaiten933
@benzaiten933 Жыл бұрын
while I agree with you, you know that legit criticism of such over-sexualisation will get dismissed with comments like "don't be so old-fashioned" or, of course, "don't be such a prude". so I think most pre-emptively say they're not a prude to take fodder away from people and comments who wish to derail the conversation.
@karenyeeeee
@karenyeeeee Жыл бұрын
this show is definitely overly sexual
@sonyap8253
@sonyap8253 Жыл бұрын
For no reason! Omg
@emmett5846
@emmett5846 Жыл бұрын
There is a reason, Sam Levinson.
@Toywins
@Toywins Жыл бұрын
​@@emmett5846😂😂😂 exactly!
@rg9991
@rg9991 Жыл бұрын
​@@emmett5846now now, let's not forget the man who brought him on in the first place, the weekend is just as much to blame
@soleydasoleyda
@soleydasoleyda Жыл бұрын
Nudity and being overly sexual is already being normalized….Iike what’s the point of this?? 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️
@RZTree
@RZTree Жыл бұрын
I can't believe how much I learned from this video. Huge kudos to Luke for finding a way to fit so much actual value and information into this show
@Redo13164
@Redo13164 Жыл бұрын
The costume designer/stylist was this show’s biggest believer lmao.
@laurenimhof2602
@laurenimhof2602 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Destiny is everything Jocelyn could have been. Her outfits were sexy but put together, showing that she was comfortable in her skin and knew her power. She wasn't being pushed around by the industry and instead was taking advantage of it. I wish we could've seen more of this kind of character arc from Jocelyn, considering that I feel as tho her outfits become more thought out and stylistic than nudity for nudity's sake, so it makes no sense stylistically for her to go back to tedros??? anyways we stan Destiny
@mairin6395
@mairin6395 Жыл бұрын
I wish they had done a bit more with Jocelyn's hair. The limp beachy waves in almost every scene were just not doing it for me and I think a bit more variety to the hair would've added a lot more visual interest to these looks. I also feel like her makeup could have been a bit more bold and experimental for someone who is supposed to be a world-famous pop star and maybe it would even have been fun for her to continue to reference early Britney with her makeup.
@MariaGonzalez-mt3px
@MariaGonzalez-mt3px Жыл бұрын
they don't look like beach waves, i think it's rather a worn out 90's blowout maybe? with the front pieces covering her forehead, i think they're trying to hide it... they used hella hairspray to keep it in place especially when she's in the car, it looks dirty and dry. it could have worked for some scenes but not the entire show. and i agree completely about the makeup. she looks AMAZING in red lips and it would def suit her character. a pop of color and shimmer would have helped considering how blue toned and dark some scenes look but i understand that's the director's style. even her big comeback stage look is... dry.
@QTpatootie95
@QTpatootie95 Жыл бұрын
I don't think the hair was the main issue here babe
@tokyoyoongi5538
@tokyoyoongi5538 Жыл бұрын
Same. They should've at least given Lily some extensions because her hair is very thin and it looked dull on camera.
@rocioruizvallejos
@rocioruizvallejos Жыл бұрын
that and the same makeup in every episode shows that they didn’t want her to be “stylish in a sexy way” they just wanted to sexualize her and show as much skin as possible (which in my opinion is kind of a missed opportunity to show a little more depth to her character and why she wears what she wears) sure, as luke mentions, there could be some reasonings or inspo behind the outfit choices but the main idea wasn’t for fashion porpoises, at least that’s what i perceive
@doeeyes2
@doeeyes2 Жыл бұрын
​@@tokyoyoongi5538i couldnt disagree more... I like that they embraced her thin hair, its refreshing not to see wigs and extensions. I find her thin hair and unique hair line quite endearing.
@sxt4447
@sxt4447 Жыл бұрын
My qualm with the fashion choices for Jocelyn comes down to the source of inspiration- Britney. If Britney inspired the concept for the show, I’m not seeing it. Britney wore nothing but sweats and comfy clothes all the time everywhere she went off duty. What a breath of fresh air it would’ve been if we could’ve seen more of a contrast between Jocelyn’s on stage looks versus her pedestrian clothes when she wasn’t working or just lounging around the house. But do we expect Sam Levinson to consider adding some realism or depth to this character? Of course not….
@nevaminddd
@nevaminddd Жыл бұрын
Shes supposed to be the ultimate popstar that would exist today. Britney is a comparison because her costumes were young, revealing at the time and made for dance/being bodycon. So they took inspiration of her impact and intention of dressing. And we dont see Jocelyn "off duty" much. Even when shes at home she wants to stay in character with Tedros clan living there. She still wants to look like a star compared to them whilst feeling/looking free.
@reikun86
@reikun86 Жыл бұрын
I haven't watched the show, but based on the images I've seen, Jocelyn is always in a constant state of performing. She's been at it for so long, I could see her not knowing how to "relax."
@sxt4447
@sxt4447 Жыл бұрын
@@reikun86That’s a great idea, but I’m afraid you’re giving the creators way too much credit 👀
@reikun86
@reikun86 Жыл бұрын
@@sxt4447 Haha I know 😂
@vit968
@vit968 Жыл бұрын
The Britney concept came from Amy Seimetz who was kicked off the show by Abel and Levinson who then proceeded to turn the show into precisely what she was satirizing.
@killbethy
@killbethy Жыл бұрын
Some of the outfits weren't even realistic, just gratuitous for the sake of filming. No one, not even a celebrity, is walking into an important business meeting in an outfit that basically only covers what a thong and (maybe) pasties does. So many of the outfits just don't match the characters or are atrocious stereotypes. The only character that seemed to have both appropriate and interesting outfits was Destiny, but even there, it's not like they were rewriting the rule book or something, just towing the line. Clearly they did not get the memo that fashion is an important part of storytelling and characterization, but I guess that would require them to have a decent story to tell or realistic characters to introduce us to, which uh... they didn't.
@aquagamer1212
@aquagamer1212 Жыл бұрын
We don’t deserve you, as someone who watched it all…thank you for your sacrifice to make this video for us 💕
@danielleoliver1734
@danielleoliver1734 Жыл бұрын
I love how Jocelyn has a whole ass mansion but the cult members are all bunking in the basement in sleeping bags, do they not deserve bedrooms? Can’t tell me there aren’t enough in that huge house
@urishitapawar
@urishitapawar Жыл бұрын
Lol although that is funny, it does make sense considering it is a cult. You have a lot of examples of cults (especially here where I live, cults are honestly so normalized) having their members sleep together in huge halls etc., to encourage the "family" vibe-- it's a genuine tactic used to increase conformity and take away people's privacy and ability to escape-- it's a very covert form of brainwashing. I doubt Sam really thought of that tho tbh, they were all probably always together for the sake of plot (what little there is of it at least) and nothing else.
@ElementalWhispers
@ElementalWhispers Жыл бұрын
It's probably a power move to humble/ dehumanize them
@Shutupbradley
@Shutupbradley Жыл бұрын
I think thats why they’re cult members. Tedros calls them “my people “ (no names) and in the last episode Jocelyn says: “they’re my people now”. Both view them as pawns, almost property. A big theme seems to be paying attention to people (treating human beigns as such) only when they can be useful to you. Stars, staff, cult members, everyone experiences being treated and viewed as tools.
@user-sr1kc6jj2b-p1q
@user-sr1kc6jj2b-p1q Жыл бұрын
I've heard that the show was shot at The Weeknd's house to cut the cost of reshooting so many scenes. Because they made the very stupid decision to reshoot the show because it was too "too feminine" there may not have been room to shoot the scene elsewhere. The show is a goddamn dumpster fire anyway.
@tdelioncourt1268
@tdelioncourt1268 Жыл бұрын
there is also no explanation to that, like we don't really see Tedrose abusing them (and being credible as a cult leader), so I thought they had a junkie slumber party lmao
@mokapuer
@mokapuer Жыл бұрын
Oh I was not expecting you would do a video on this garbage of a show! I didn’t hate the outfits but they were pretty lackluster…
@ronrendon
@ronrendon Жыл бұрын
Ditto.
@gogogo26993
@gogogo26993 Жыл бұрын
and he didnt do inventing anna?
@jaimelovemac88
@jaimelovemac88 Жыл бұрын
"It's a great garment for giving the audience the absolute heebie-fucking-jeebies." 😂 😂 Yes. Yes it is. 😂
@ealusaid
@ealusaid Жыл бұрын
Best line of the video
@RZTree
@RZTree Жыл бұрын
the valentino dressing room scene makes me physically angry to think about and I of course immediately wanted to hear luke shame them for it
@actuallywaffles5267
@actuallywaffles5267 Жыл бұрын
As someone who takes part in bdsm nothing makes me more uncomfortable than how commonly the media has started depicting choking as "sexy". It's becoming more common in sex because of it, but it's insanely dangerous. There's no safe way to do it, and even people who've taken classes on it and done it with their partner consensually for years have accidentally killed their partners doing it. Shows like this just depicting it casually and without any sort of warning only lead to more inexperienced people thinking they understand how to do it and that kills people. The "right" way to do it is never to put something around someone's neck like a belt, and covering a partner's face so they can't easily express that there's an issue is super dangerous. There was no negotiation, no safe words established, and even if they had all those things it's still incredibly dangerous. That scene alone is enough for this show to be genuinely dangerous because people will recreate it and that will lead to deaths. And for anyone reading this, if your partner has started choking you without consent you are 750% more likely to be murdered by that partner. Without consent that's abuse. The show doesn't properly go over what consenting to this particular act should look like, and having a partner casually do this to you without regards for your safety is a huge red flag. Please, if you have a partner who thinks they can do that safely run far and fast because they can't and their overconfidence puts you at risk.
@pancake1682
@pancake1682 Жыл бұрын
Watching the behind the scene of the original plot for the show makes me so mad cuz it actually looks good AND lily is actually wearing somethings
@dysmissme7343
@dysmissme7343 Жыл бұрын
Wait where???!
@chrisj8244
@chrisj8244 Жыл бұрын
Where do you find those clips?
@kkura09709
@kkura09709 10 ай бұрын
@@chrisj8244there’s just pictures and instagram posts i think a google search might bring them up
@symonew33
@symonew33 Жыл бұрын
31:41 the white wasn’t about her shedding the darkness and the past. It was suppose to be aligning her with Sharon Stones character in Basic instinct the movie that her and her assistant were watching in the first episode. It was suppose to be used to show Jocelyn to be the “real villain” the femme fatale.
@Whackadoo1
@Whackadoo1 Жыл бұрын
Which is embarrassing because Basic Instinct is a great movie.
@allPodd
@allPodd Жыл бұрын
ooooh thank you for pointing that out. kudos to the stylist again
@dysmissme7343
@dysmissme7343 Жыл бұрын
Ewww
@nogedoge
@nogedoge Жыл бұрын
Oh god, that's even worse. No. Noooooooooo 😭
@kevinobreque_
@kevinobreque_ Жыл бұрын
for real i never fully understood how sexualisation and "being sexy for the sake of being sexy" as Luke said, were two completely different things. Thank u mother
@roselol7398
@roselol7398 Жыл бұрын
I love a bit of vulgarity, but honestly this show was just a male gaze obsession and it was really uncomfortable to watch
@QuoteBlink
@QuoteBlink Жыл бұрын
“You are without a doubt the worst show I’ve ever heard of.” “But you have heard of me.”
@iamnotjack.whydidichange
@iamnotjack.whydidichange Жыл бұрын
don't quote her dad on this
@dysmissme7343
@dysmissme7343 Жыл бұрын
BAHAHHAAHA 😂 Lmao that’s a good one
@shiversivegotem
@shiversivegotem Жыл бұрын
I laughed my ass off when she came on screen in the black bikini top its just hilariously small
@scyllamonster
@scyllamonster Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sacrificing your eyes to bring us this review that was infinitely more entertaining than the show
@mizzymo64
@mizzymo64 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking one for the team. I only made it as far as ep 2 but found the endless convayor belt of uncomfortable looking skimpy clothing exhausting. I longed to see Jocelyn kick back in some comfy sweats.
@doeeyes2
@doeeyes2 Жыл бұрын
Honestly it only gets worse from there
@janw9594
@janw9594 Жыл бұрын
I’m getting Princess Leia as Jaba’s prisoner vibes from the pink metallic costume
@SuperMarkizas
@SuperMarkizas Жыл бұрын
I have never seen an impersonification of an STD like Theodros
@glaceon113
@glaceon113 Жыл бұрын
For anyone who isn't aware Nusi's been in a lot of controversy within the last year or two. He's sexually assaulted a few of his models, who'd come forward about it.
@sophiaisabelle01
@sophiaisabelle01 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your analysis, Luke. We will support you no matter what happens.
@QTpatootie95
@QTpatootie95 Жыл бұрын
?
@nevaminddd
@nevaminddd Жыл бұрын
What happened ?
@scoobydoo7177
@scoobydoo7177 Жыл бұрын
What happened?
@likhwezititus
@likhwezititus Жыл бұрын
​@@nevamindddjust jnxase the crazy The Idol stans try to call him a "Prude" and cancel him for not liking the show.
@instinctivelychelsea2905
@instinctivelychelsea2905 Жыл бұрын
I loved this video. Deep diving a piece of media thru the lense of fashion is something new to me and I love the history I get from you about the fashion.
@RandomSwiftie13
@RandomSwiftie13 Жыл бұрын
I just cannot get over one of the final outfits of Joselyn's that was supposed to be sheer but has a longa55 visible white ZIP behind her back like... You couldn't even put it in on a side of the dress to hide it? And Why is it white when the outfit is supposed to be sheer and silver? This just made the outfit tacky and it's a finale outfit dress in which she dances.. 🤦🏽‍♀
@karlycartwright
@karlycartwright Жыл бұрын
Talia and Destiny were styled so well!!
@what_equals_42
@what_equals_42 Жыл бұрын
What a mess. I've been avoiding mentions of this show, but absolutely had to see what you make of it. Thank you for your analysis- I get the distinct impression that will be the only value I could ever get from that show. 😅
@Ash-xt1ej
@Ash-xt1ej Жыл бұрын
Oh god, you did not deserve the pain of sitting through this show. (But I am still really interested in your analysis)
@user-3259
@user-3259 Жыл бұрын
why would anyone watch the idol for the plot when we have hautelemode ACTUALLY giving us a plot
@kelseylauren624
@kelseylauren624 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been wanting to examine the clothing but didn’t want to give the show any streams. This is PERFECT content for me specifically
@seekittycat
@seekittycat Жыл бұрын
The white look is totally based of Basic Instinct. Like "she's a predator all along" look.
@benzaiten933
@benzaiten933 Жыл бұрын
I always think that achieving the 'sexy' look by simply exposing pretty much the whole body is truly cheap. you can look seductive while not having your boobs and booty hang out, but it does take a bit of class.
@dysmissme7343
@dysmissme7343 Жыл бұрын
I think that was kind of the point? I dunno 😓 the narrative of this thing is such a wreck
@Teuwufel
@Teuwufel Жыл бұрын
They turn real sexiness into gross infantile mess. Nothing sensual here, just creeps. It's a real rock bottom.
@abs0lutelyn0t
@abs0lutelyn0t Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Luke. I am already disgusted listening to your description :D...ps: loved your input and interpreting the fashion in regards to the plot of the series.
@grumblefluff
@grumblefluff Жыл бұрын
They should have just called this show "Underboob"
@RoseSparkz
@RoseSparkz Жыл бұрын
I liked a lot of Jocelyn’s clothes but since I was so tired of the very objectifying shots of her it made them worse for me. Like I want to see a woman wearing skimpy, fun clothes, but when you add in the zooms and lingering shots on her anatomy IN the clothes it emphasizes the male gaze aspect of it and made me uncomfortable. Like when I wear a short skirt I don’t want to imagine an intense zoom in on my ass cheeks, I just want to rock a cute skirt. All I can picture when I see her sparkly dress from the last episode is that bizarre shot of her doing pelvic thrust spider moves on the floor in it lol
@justinejustice_league1857
@justinejustice_league1857 Жыл бұрын
I think Carrie Bradshaw did skimpy but expensive very well, loved sex in the city even though it was very adult it had storylines
@meadow_maker
@meadow_maker Жыл бұрын
Are we not gonna talk about how a ton of women came forward with receipts of Nusi Quero sexually assaulting them and generally being a vile human? I guess it’s fitting that Jocelyn would be wearing his work….🤮
@doeeyes2
@doeeyes2 Жыл бұрын
Please do a review of the Barbie press tour 🙏 Margot Robbie and cast have been killing every single event. I honestly think its the best movie tour in fashion history. I can just imagine how much fun Margot and her team had planning it all out
@deemariedubois4916
@deemariedubois4916 Жыл бұрын
Soft core porn is still porn.
@wolfco47
@wolfco47 Жыл бұрын
I completely support your decision to avoid a second season if it occurs. Regardless of the INTENT of the people involved, the show presents a lot of really manipulative abusive behavior as acceptable. It is glorifying a train wreck. Even if you walk away from a train wreck, it doesn't mean the crash was actually okay. People are still permanently harmed by it. The scars remain. Yeah, the show included some 'Fashion', but the trip wasn't worth it in the end.
@taylorgayhart9497
@taylorgayhart9497 Жыл бұрын
I’m not against including graphic sex or violence in media, but if you don’t justify it’s presence through the story you’re telling, then you’re only showing it for the shock value.
@NKim-gj9vk
@NKim-gj9vk Жыл бұрын
One of the main things that made this character so unrelatable and hard to watch was the wardrobe choices. Who is scantily dressed or near naked 90% of the time? I’m pretty sure even pop stars wear a tshirt a few times per week. Sam worked overtime to make sure every single scene her outfit gave sex pot…even when she was home on the couch. Although I loved the outfits that choices alone made it hard to relate to/empathize with the character
@Jackie-cl2qe
@Jackie-cl2qe 3 ай бұрын
I'm late to the party. My problem is not the nudity, but the sexualization of that. As a dancer (not professionally) I would say some dancers are very comfortable with nudity, in a not sexual way. When u train and sweat many hours a day, wearing many clothes is not very hygienic. That's why fishnet tights got invented. And because showing leg while dancing could get you arrested, and cops couldn't tell they weren't actual tights from far away. You also have to see the body to know that you and others are doing the moves right. Some dances are sexual, some are sexualized, physical closeness is just part of dancing and training. So you get used to it in your daily life, but that doesn't mean not owning t-shirt. I wish the show wouldn't sexualize nudity like that
@7nana_7a
@7nana_7a Жыл бұрын
A fashion review and a TV show review. I love this channel
@parasyteghoul_
@parasyteghoul_ Жыл бұрын
I usually prefer red carpet review videos from you, but damn this was a really well written episode! I might have to go back through your videos and watch some I might’ve skipped
@noelleanches8638
@noelleanches8638 Жыл бұрын
it’s so sad because the original creator’s vision for the show looked way more interesting and you can see some of the clothing they had lily in like it was a completely different vibe that i wish we got
@mbbiernat
@mbbiernat Жыл бұрын
I'm never gonna watch this show, as I don't think it can be as interesting as this review, amen
@rachael5025
@rachael5025 Жыл бұрын
now i know who to blame for lowrise jeans ty
@strictlybusiness1357
@strictlybusiness1357 Жыл бұрын
Incredibly interesting perspective! Having heard the show's reviews and commentary takes, I think this fashion story is actually more compelling than the story itself. It is cool that many of the themes that The Idol seemed like it was going to have is shown in these celebrity fashion connections and history. Thanks for the video, much appreciated.
@catherinechandler195
@catherinechandler195 Жыл бұрын
When I saw the fashion in the show, I was wondering if you’d talk about it. Happy to see you did.
@ldragon8480
@ldragon8480 Жыл бұрын
I am seriously shocked they let Jennie be in this show and dress that way... Holy shit.
@Hawkey1988
@Hawkey1988 Жыл бұрын
Yea I’m not even a BP fan and I’m shocked as well
@tokyoyoongi5538
@tokyoyoongi5538 Жыл бұрын
Her agency isn't known for being cookie-cutter and appealing to conservative Koreans.
@peymcc3279
@peymcc3279 Жыл бұрын
Yeah arent kpop management companies notoriously super strict and insane?
@dysmissme7343
@dysmissme7343 Жыл бұрын
@@Hawkey1988 Why though? This is barely any different from her stage outfits
@dysmissme7343
@dysmissme7343 Жыл бұрын
⁠​⁠@@peymcc3279 I mean have you watched any of blackpinks recent performances? They toe the aesthetic line of burlesque for much of it- I really don’t think the style of this show was such a big jump. What REALLY got me was hearing Jennie say “was she a better fuck then me?” Idk why even…. It was shocking to hear her SAY it even though it’s honestly so similar to her lyrics like this is “both my body and my bank account good figure” Jennie Like…. It’s crazy how blackpink sexy sizes themselves in their lyrics all the damn time but as long as the members never actually **talk** about sex or sexuality we can somehow ignore it? Idk somehow that’s the kpop boundary for innocence or whatever
@ntyler2344
@ntyler2344 Жыл бұрын
Luke, your commentary is gold. ✨✨✨
@rosesoehngen1483
@rosesoehngen1483 Жыл бұрын
I thought I was done with The Idol content, but I am so ready for this
@honeybea4845
@honeybea4845 Жыл бұрын
they really went "what if Women, but Naked?"
@neeharikalatwal9187
@neeharikalatwal9187 Жыл бұрын
Omggg your reference of Buffalo Bill from TSOL had me wheezing my ass off.
@warrenlwolfe
@warrenlwolfe Жыл бұрын
Wow you continue to make the most considered and well researched content on KZbin! I've learned so much about fashion via your channel
@timosbornisapedo1902
@timosbornisapedo1902 Жыл бұрын
Your attention to connotation EVERYTHING
@jaccaj1626
@jaccaj1626 Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who was disturbed by this show and not in a good way. Yuck.
@Marenslip
@Marenslip Жыл бұрын
I know it may be old news, but I would loooove to hear your take on American Horror Story: Hotel🙌🏻 All the fashion moments in that one though.. DECEASED💀
@stephmgreen
@stephmgreen Жыл бұрын
AHHHH “From a fashion reviewer perspective, is a great garment for giving the audience the heebiefuckinjeebies.” I cackled. I know you would never do this, because the amount of editing is ungodly, but I’d love to see you live react to a film or tv show’s fashion, the way you do with vogue videos or closet tours
@undetestable1
@undetestable1 Жыл бұрын
I appercaite this break down. I am far more interested in the fashion of than the content of the show. I actually like Joss's overly sexual style. And I adore all the looks the big girl turned. That is so rare on any show. I didnt even know some of these bands sold plus size clothing. That said, Joss's make-up is consitently atrocious. Maybe its intentional but I didnt realize how pretty the actress actually was untill I saw the old runway photos posted in this video.
@reikun86
@reikun86 Жыл бұрын
I also prefer Lily Rose-Depp's more fresh-faced looks. I was never a fan of the the overlined lips with nude lipstick look in the 90's, and I'm not a fan of it now.
@4viewing
@4viewing Жыл бұрын
The video’s title says it all 😂 seriously, you should publish a book full of all your sassy (yet true) comments
@bridiemacdonald9436
@bridiemacdonald9436 Жыл бұрын
Wow - this overview is amazing - I love you going over all of the references. I'm not watching the show 'cuz it sounds like too many hot trash moments but your breakdown of the looks is A+.
@reginaaduana4469
@reginaaduana4469 Жыл бұрын
You should do a fashion review/breakdown for The Bear! I was surprised that a good amount of the outfits in that show were actually expensive/designer pieces. Would love to know your take and how it ties into the plot/characters - also it’s a way better show than The Idol!
@dahliaherrod4301
@dahliaherrod4301 Жыл бұрын
Really?? Where? I love that show and had zero clue they were serving looks. Although Richie looks GREAT in a suit. He has the perfect frame for them. He can stay in a suit.
@notimpresset
@notimpresset Жыл бұрын
this is my favourite video of yours yet, you said what was needed to be said, i could not agree with everything more, starting from love for Destiny (and her amaze wardrobe) through being done the moment when the Troye Sivan's character got tortured, to finally wtf was that ending. Pls pls pls make more of that sort videos
@chloepainter4064
@chloepainter4064 Жыл бұрын
I heard the first version of the script was more of an actual commentary/satire, where Tedros was just the predatory villain and there was no twist ending where the leading lady was secretly evil the whole time and the guy who abused and manipulated her was secretly the real victim or whatever. but the first writer got 80% through and then either quit or was replaced, at which point almost the whole script was scrapped and redone by the new writer with input from The Weeknd. What we got was certainly trash and not even the funny sort, but it was maybe almost good, we’ll never know.
@agent606
@agent606 Жыл бұрын
She was fired because the show was “shot too much from a woman’s perspective” …. Her version was way more y2k Britney
@francescavitale28
@francescavitale28 Жыл бұрын
Forever side eying every woman that stayed in this proyect after sam changed the script and defended and praised him even after the finished product. Like there's no way a check is worth the ridiculisation and self disrespect. It's not even comparable with euphoria because almost everyone in this was established or an A/B lister, like, you can pass and do other proyects
@undetestable1
@undetestable1 Жыл бұрын
They probably signed contracts and had little choice.
@kdog8658
@kdog8658 Жыл бұрын
It is the worst type of irony that these actresses were likely locked into a contract and then would have to pay the contract amount back if they didnt want to like, do weird sex scenes with the weeknd.
@AmyB369
@AmyB369 Жыл бұрын
They need to do a better job with their contracts
@francescavitale28
@francescavitale28 Жыл бұрын
@undetestable1 I'm sorry but someone like Lilly rose depp or jennie def has the money to get out of a contract with hbo. If Barbie Ferreira can do it, they definitely can
@jabarooisboring
@jabarooisboring Жыл бұрын
Hi Luke!! Thanks for reviewing this as I couldn’t sit thru the show but this is a great recap. I wish you had mentioned the EXTENSIVE amount of allegations against nusi quero!! I rly admired his work but so so many of his models have called out explicit inappropriate behavior. I rly encourage looking into this!!! And want to warn anyone that admired his work bc he takes advantage of aspiring models and is super super inappropriate towards them (trying to censor myself for YT but there are SERIOUS allegations)
@melztunes
@melztunes Жыл бұрын
This was a brilliant video. I keep being impressed with Luke. Research, communication, comedy, and writing nailed.
@Rikku147
@Rikku147 Жыл бұрын
YESSSSS I needed someone to tackle the outfits I am so glad it was you.
@Deebnoff
@Deebnoff Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching this so we didn't have to. 😅 All the way with you that Destiny slayed and got to wear the best fashion in the whole depraved show 😂 She seemed like the only shining beacon. 🥰
@seekittycat
@seekittycat Жыл бұрын
Thank you Luke for your analysis 🙏 I could never watch this show hell nooo✋. Euphoria had make up but never heard a single thing about the looks in this show.
@SissySpaced
@SissySpaced Жыл бұрын
Interesting that Jennie is also a Chanel ambassador…
@kathyjohnson2043
@kathyjohnson2043 Жыл бұрын
I am very unhappy with the return of smoking as also something that is there for no reason like the sexualized clothes. Smoking should never be a part of portraying an idol. I wouldn't be surprised if they started showing the brand. Courting the younger audience with smoking is reprehensible.
@sonyap8253
@sonyap8253 Жыл бұрын
Pop stars are extremely sexualized and dressed to reflect that. The sexualized wardrobe and the smoking are very much necessary in a tale in the land of vices.
@whedonobsessed
@whedonobsessed Жыл бұрын
Return? It hasn't gone anywhere. Also I don't think Jocelyn having a nicotine addiction as a coping mechanism is exactly glamorising smoking. We're not supposed to look up to her and emulate her. If kids start smoking ciggies because they idolise Jocelyn, then their problems are way bigger than this show.
@aquagamer1212
@aquagamer1212 Жыл бұрын
Idols do smoke tho, is it a good thing, obviously not, but it’s a realistic representation
@Bogotaeverything
@Bogotaeverything Жыл бұрын
Selena used to smoke. And many models do, to avoid eating.
@tokyoyoongi5538
@tokyoyoongi5538 Жыл бұрын
Lily smokes in real life, so it probably would've been in the show even if it wasn't "trendy" now. I hate that smoking cigarettes is considered "cool" again as well.
@sophiag612
@sophiag612 Жыл бұрын
After the entire exposé came out about Tedros, how could Jocelyn still date him? Wouldn’t like ALL her fans be angry about that? Imagine if an artist like Dua Lipa came out dating a man who beats women and did jail time for kidnapping and torturing them lol.
@astronomer444
@astronomer444 Жыл бұрын
wow this is a good point and another plot hole I didn’t even think of this
@agent606
@agent606 Жыл бұрын
Rick James kidnapped and tortured two women, burning them with crack pipes. He had a second coming with Dave chapelles show.
@sophiag612
@sophiag612 Жыл бұрын
@@agent606 I see what you’re saying but times were VERY different in the early 90s. People didn’t have access to the internet and their phones like they do today. I think if that happened today he would’ve been DONE. Many people in the public are cancelled for much less.
@suna173.6jm
@suna173.6jm Жыл бұрын
that 3d printed look is so stunning!! this show wouldve been so good if they kept the original director.. at least we got some fashion history and references from it i guess. ty for that
@ShesquatchPiney
@ShesquatchPiney Жыл бұрын
I hope covering this show makes the algorithm rain upon you and wash away all the soft corn ick. Subbed
@marikotrue3488
@marikotrue3488 Жыл бұрын
From what I heard about this series, I was certain that I was not in their target demo. However the clothing did look intriguing so I appreciate a HauteLeMode commentary. Loved most of the outfits, but the "baby" bikini top (at least from the front) looked more gimmick than fashion. Comparing the entertainment industry to a cult is not a new take, but I appreciate the chance for young actors to get a chance to emote.
@mollyanna000
@mollyanna000 Жыл бұрын
it would have been way more effective to have her in comfy/normal teenager clothes i.e hoodies and leggings at home and co trash that with the tiny sexualised performance outfits
@isabellablanco9457
@isabellablanco9457 Жыл бұрын
I didn't know I needed this video
@dysmissme7343
@dysmissme7343 Жыл бұрын
You did a really great job with this breakdown- you balanced information and entertainment really well ❤
@elizabethmcmillan9567
@elizabethmcmillan9567 11 ай бұрын
Ok that flash frame of Brad Mondo killed me
@shootfrick
@shootfrick Жыл бұрын
Took a film history class one time and I wish this was the contents of that class. I love the deep look at a film and how the set, wardrobe, and music can tell more about the story than a script alone.
@rosalindasculturalcabana8581
@rosalindasculturalcabana8581 Жыл бұрын
You are so great! Thanks for not being 'seduced' by the hype.
@mariesikk
@mariesikk Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard others comment that the white halter dress at the end is a callback to Basic Instinct which they apparently were watching in an earlier episode, and this is possibly commentary on Jocelyn’s arc.
@sophiaguo892
@sophiaguo892 Жыл бұрын
“PP: predator print!!!” hahahhaha
@penidk
@penidk Жыл бұрын
Yessss, didn’t think he would talk about it
@xoxoRonniexoxo
@xoxoRonniexoxo Жыл бұрын
I’m so excited for the review you’re gonna do on the Barbie movie😍
@OGseoulite
@OGseoulite Жыл бұрын
The video I’ve been waiting for, not that there was much going on with the fashion (or lack there of) anyway but I was expecting Luke to commentate about the look’s regardless & I’m not disappointed 👐🏽
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