The Inciting Incident | The Craft Of...

[@sirocco2810]

Never thought I'd hear such intense, structured and serious discourse about fucking Dodgeball. Fucking. King.

[@MacabreStorytelling]

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[@vitorafmonteiro]

You could even say, fuking makabring?... I'll let myself out.

[@Takashiy]

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[@taedopalleb1373]

I just wanna comment how amazing that set of examples you picked. A north american comedy being compared to a korean revenge film in an accurate and fitting way that actually helps explain that part of the craft. well done.

[@Necroxion]

Just wanna add another unique inciting incident: Rocky starts the inciting incident after a huge chunk of scenes that establishes Rocky as a person, getting you to empathize with him and root for him all the more in what would be an otherwise regular boxing match between two nobodies To further Mac's point, the inciting incident, no, every single part of the plot structure is only there for you to tweak to fit the goals of the narrative.

[@MacabreStorytelling]

Rocky is a great movie that shows how personal stakes can be just as powerful as external ones. If Rocky doesn’t last the 15 rounds, he’s no better or worse in anyone else’s eyes... but it’s about proving it to himself that he can do it. Fuck gotta rewatch that shit.

[@WhyNot-qw6vu]

Oh look another video essayist that I’m going to waste the next week binge watching his videos, Like where are you guys coming from where was this level of good Content was hiding for all this time just finished watching your vid about Hollywood and steroids and I’m very impressed so far

[@AnnoyingMoose]

The major difference between these films is that both Dodgeball and Old Boy are believable, realistic movies while Argo is complete fantasy.

[@blake.mp4]

This is a very well structured video! there’s absolutely no fat, and every plot point smoothly leads to the next

[@MacabreStorytelling]

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[@AJPzaworld]

Aye, nice to see Oldboy being used as a reference. One of my all time favorites! Great job, Mac, keep up the good work!

[@MacabreStorytelling]

Never thought I'd ever make a video involving me comparing Dodgeball and Oldboy but hey that's showbiz baby 👍

[@yajubarah]

Masterful and very well thought content. I've been addicted. Please make more

[@Hollyberrystreats]

"How do we see this as a disturbance to Tony's life" Because it's more important to first show how it disturbed the lives of the hostages, and follow that with Tony representing an America that was disturbed emotionally from thousands of miles away.

[@gfilmer7150]

The inciting incident, one day your farming then the next your fighting a dragon with a magical sword. Either that or you and your boys sail to England and raid the countryside in the name of Odin.

[@MacabreStorytelling]

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[@gfilmer7150]

@@MacabreStorytelling I was just talking in general. Not a Kino fan unfortunately, sorry to disappoint.

[@MacabreStorytelling]

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[@gfilmer7150]

@@MacabreStorytelling 😔 I know, I know

[@pollyolga]

@@MacabreStorytelling pardon my ignorance, but what is Kino?

[@luizafantin109]

I have never subscribed to a channel so fast. Funny, interesting and actually teaches me stuff 😊

[@blake.mp4]

Oldboy is in my top five favorites, so I’m so glad you talked about it!

[@MacabreStorytelling]

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[@HannaHsOverInvested]

This is so affirming. After getting some feedback I was a little worried about the inciting incident happened right at the beginning. This helps ease my mind.

[@jamesworchestshire805]

Commenting for the algorithm.

[@MacabreStorytelling]

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[@EtamirTheDemiDeer]

It worked. I’ve never seen this guy but this stuff is right up my alley, thank you

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[@onyourleft5648]

A true comrade

[@catmandude2357]

You're breakdowns are crazy good. Very entertaining.

[@seansolidworks4736]

I’ve been watching a lot of your videos lately. Well done. I’ve read that commenting on videos helps the creator, so here I am.

[@MacabreStorytelling]

💗 extra heart for you

[@seansolidworks4736]

@@MacabreStorytelling I see you responded to another of my comments in an older video of yours. Do the comments and “thumbs up” help? Also, does it help that I have KZbin premium? Do you get a piece of my subscription fee from KZbin or something?

[@dreal500]

Excellent x 3. Love the unpretentious style of your teaching

[@bobbyshewan4229]

Started following after you took the time to look at my comment to your Last of Us 2 video. I may not 100% agree with your points, but I’m interested in hearing your perspective on storytelling topics like these. Best of luck to your channel👍🏿🔥

[@liampowell5000]

Mac drops a video and it’s already a classic

[@TSmith-yy3cc]

Banger. 👑

[@JoshKnoxChinnery]

My inciting incident in my novel: being a guard is boring when there's no conflict

[@tedarcher9120]

Literally the Kings of the Wyld

[@thisisjcgreen9646]

Your videos remind me that I enjoy writing.

[@virn333]

Please make more of these!

[@georgecampbell9190]

Awesome video. Definitely going to check out Oldboy.

[@neosverse]

Time to listen to Mac's voice while doing homework

[@animatorFan74]

Thanks again..... brilliant but simple explanations again :)

[@blaisetelfer8499]

I clicked on this just to see what Dodgeball and Oldboy could possibly have in common; well done

[@joshc5051]

Late to the Party, but another piece of worthy content that I makes my sub worth it!

[@bruno3948]

Thanks for the video! It is great!

[@LIVEGAMERCOOL]

Came here from kumails video now going to stay. Commenting for the algorithm.

[@federationblue4704]

Dodgeball is one of my childhood favourite movies

[@DashXero]

I've got a dumb question about inciting incidents because they seem to be something I'm having trouble with. In my spare time, I'm writing a police/detective procedural set in a world with magic (yeah, not terribly original, but I still like the idea). For police procedurals, am I incorrect in thinking that the inciting incident was the murder which may or may not be seen by us, the viewers? The reason I ask is because I've received feedback that there is no inciting incident - which I don't really understand because I open on the corpse as it is being investigated.

[@MacabreStorytelling]

It depends on the circumstance. As Argo does, the film CAN open immediately with the inciting incident so in this case the murder would be the inciting incident. It sounds like some people expect it to be on pg 10 because all the guides tell them it is supposed to LOL

[@DashXero]

@@MacabreStorytelling Got it. Thanks! I thought I was going insane.

[@cemarz]

Inciting incident is just the beginning of the plot. You can do that whenever, but keep in mind that plot is usually the thing that makes the reader want to continue reading. If you have the incident that early and your readers are wondering where it is then you've likely not adequately done it in a way to grab their attention. Could be you start there then go into heavy establishment due to the nature of your genres. That would indicate pacing issues.

[@ValGuard4801]

Do a lot of these tips work for things like novels and can they be applied to say, a full trilogy

[@hahajaxsontv]

Commenting to support

[@damariuswingfield2144]

Actually"Old Boy" starts when he is set free.He doesn't take action until that happens. But I give you props.

[@MacabreStorytelling]

That’s not the inciting incident though.

[@gkreviews8574]

Can you talk about mulholland drive I think it may go against the 3 act structure

[@MacabreStorytelling]

It does, although Lynch's film structure could be an entire master class in and of itself lol

[@gkreviews8574]

Macabre Storytelling good to know

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[@christopherrenteria1159]

Also seeing him heart every single comment made me subscribe haha.

[@MacabreStorytelling]

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[@comicbookreviewer4856]

I do admit what i liked about dodgeball it became clear white goodman try to be something he not and thought he was the goody guy well Peter lafleur did try to be his friend and even show up at kate house as he knew he was going to make a fool of himself showing unlike white peter knew who he is

[@FS.Media1]

Dude. As a film maker, great job. I watched them out of order, but now I'm subscribed. You sound like guy I'd love to have a beer with. Do you have a script?

[@MacabreStorytelling]

I've written a couple tv pilots, never got around to writing a film script

[@FS.Media1]

@@MacabreStorytelling do you want to? Would you do some script coverage? Best time to fix a story is on paper, not on set or the edit room.... I have a few films distributed, but they sucked... Lol

[@billyzane1982]

What are your thoughts on the show The Shield?

[@MacabreStorytelling]

Pimp. God Tier Ending.

[@shaggydoggy7602]

@@MacabreStorytelling what do you think of the hbo series the wire??

[@hollykm]

A+ Dodgeball analysis

[@kayo5011]

Can you make a video on the hallway scene in Oldboy?

[@MacabreStorytelling]

I think about it while getting intimate...

[@kayo5011]

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[@ColorMatching]

She's not that into you anyway.

[@mononokehte]

Gonna finish my hw then watch

[@mononokehte]

noice liked it good series quality content

[@bitzibaerlie]

Also have my homework left, but I argued that this is also some kind of homework, so I watched it first. ^^"

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Awesome

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[@Poopoocachoo]

This stuff is good stuff

[@yajubarah]

Please bro im begging you. Make video analysis on the sopranos. Not many people talk about it, even less make great videos about it

[@MacabreStorytelling]

I know. I just don't have a specific topic in mind in relation to it. Perhaps on the way it balanced the hybrid of serialization and episodic?

[@yajubarah]

@@MacabreStorytelling I don't know but whatever you put out I'll watch it. Maybe on the psychopathy of the characters in it, or a video about analyzing each characters like my man Paulie, Christopher, and Tony, etc 😀.

[@sparky2721]

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[@lazedreamor2318]

Do you think that the inciting incident can happen after an hour? Such as in the Phantom Menace where Qui-Gon discovers that Anakin has immensely high force-sensetivity and decides to help steer him towards the right purpose in life (becoming a Jedi Knight) because he believes that he can become truly great (the chosen one)?

[@MacabreStorytelling]

I wouldn’t recommend it. Can’t imagine you can fill up an hour with interesting content before even getting to the story kicking off.

[@002wrxx]

This rules

[@joesmittington1207]

For the Algorithm!

[@joejoeman3645]

This guy has a PhD in literature ???

[@MacabreStorytelling]

*a PhD in being a baller

[@EtamirTheDemiDeer]

Boop

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[@DavidRivera-qb1un]

Algorithm

[@zimmerman1031]

I fucking hate the thumbnail. Do you really have to have Ben Affleck there? Vince Vaughn isn't a favorite either, but Affleck is the worst.