The Incredible Mystery of the AMERICAN Super Game Boy 2 (Rumored Nintendo Peripheral)

[@LSuperSonicQ]

Ok before you comment "Japan uses NTSC too" let me clarify. YES I thought NTSC=NA and JP=Japan. BUT if you actually watch and comprehend the video, it's clear I'm referring to a version that's NOT the Japanese version at all. And at the END of the video, my mistake of confusing NTSC/JP actually comes full circle and makes the outcome of the mystery clear. So please DON'T COMMENT Japan uses NTSC cause I KNOW now for future content.

[@HapliodHandler]

I was literally about to comment that!

[@intilagos-brown5232]

people make this mistake a lot, its because "super nintendo" has pal and ntsc variants so people say ntsc to differentiate the european and north american systems, of course japan is ntsc too, but they have a "super famicom" meaning the distinction was made by the name of the machine. so a lot of people misuse the term NTSC when referring to the NA region.

[@hamstrungharry259]

NTSC-US and NTSC-JP. That's how we like to say it.

[@KelBShobra]

please do a video on bruno the kid. also this man has a super game boy 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIaYgHWoedGCiJo

[@kalmtraveler]

I'm glad you pinned this because that was the first thing in my mind right as you started the video. On the flip side, does it really matter since we can pretty easily use the Japanese SGB2 with minor modding to either the cart or our SNES?

[@NERDmNERDf]

This is the type of guy we need to investigate where Mother 64 and those prototypes for Zelda 64 and Mario 64 are.

[@yourepostedinthewrongneigh1545]

- ChrisCube - Mother 64 is probably below being in the alpha build so if we ever do find it it's probably not at all playable :(

[@heavyset0223]

Miayamoto keeps them under is mattress.

[@frannielmartinez]

Kirby Kid was also playable... It had a DEMO!

[@WasabiKitCat]

You Reposted in the Wrong Neighbourhood I recall hearing Earthbound 64 was estimated to be about 60% complete before cancellation, but I don’t really have any evidence to back that up except for Wikipedia, which isn’t the most reliable source for things like this. I really want to believe a ROM or beta cartridge with the ROM still on it exists, but likelihood is that any copies that exist have been lost, destroyed, or locked away somewhere in Nintendo’s archives. I don’t think there is no hope that it exists, but even if it does we probably won’t ever be able to see it. There is chance that Nintendo may release clearer footage of it, but actually intentionally releasing the ROM is probably out of the question.

[@justdonnie]

Mother 64 was moved to the GBA (there is a Wii u ver) as mother 3 and only released in JP

[@Larry]

Saw this video again tonight, just a thought as the Super Gameboy 2 works on a US system. it's quite possible that QVC imported a bunch from Japan and had them modified to fit US consoles, especially as all that was needed was filing a groove in the back. QVC were importing stuff from Japan at the time, I bought a bunch of Manga in Japanese from them around that time, mostly Pokemon comics.

[@toast2980]

So i'm not the only one that watched this multiple times

[@florida-boy]

VanillaPvp24 Guess So

[@UltimateExplosiveGaming]

while that's true, i don't think qvc would be modifying them thou

[@symphony137]

But then they wouldn't be grey since the Japanese ones were only released as a transparent blue cartridge.

[@nathanhamman418]

Its also possible that there was a prototype made for the NTSC market like the n64 DD but that it wasn't released to the retail market.

[@Larry]

There's other factors that lead to it never existing, the device wasn't created until 1998, NoA's final SNES product was released in 1995, NoA always have a decisive cut off point for technology, so they can concentrate on promoting next gen games. But you know Sod's law will have someone posting up a video of them playing on a US Super Game Boy 2 about ten minutes after you upload this video? :D

[@AntiChangeling]

What about DKC3 & Super Mario RPG?

[@nekomarulupin]

But Larry, what about the Snes jr. or Kirby's Dreamland 3, or the Taito developed nintendo published Arkanoid: Doh it again? Nintendo did drop the Snes to focus on the N64 around 1996, but they returned to promoting the system when they aimed it as a budget alternative to the N64 around 1997. Not to mention pokemon was Super Gameboy compatible and the only way to play it on the TV before stadium was via super Gameboy. Considering the Super Gameboy 2 was designed with pokemon in mind, it wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo considered releasing it to coincide with the NA release of red and blue. Pokemon Stadium, and the release of the gameboy color were probably what ultimately killed a US version from ever existing.

[@catherineholmes8423]

Larry Bundy Jr why are you everywhere

[@hdofu]

seriously you're like Santa Claus concerning my watch list.

[@GaryKertopermono]

David Brailsford He's checking a list, he's checking it twice, he's gonna find out who's Molyneux or nice.

[@hptwillightfan123]

You should be an investigative journalist. You've done a lot of videos where you've had to get creative to find your sources, but this one you REALLY had to pull out all the stops, and it really shows! Not even to mention how you're dedicated to finding as many sources as possible to come to a conclusion.

[@burp2019]

you know someone's trying really hard when they track down 3 random people from the 90s lol

[@hptwillightfan123]

Not just from the 90's, from the 90's internet!

[@OnlyEpicEmber]

He was lucky the time period was 1998 as there are near enough no backups from before this. You'd have to resort to magazines and newspapers

[@flappy7373]

Marcelle, i was on the internet in the 90's.. lemme tell ya.. wild wild west kinda describes it. hahaha

[@ExtremeWreck]

@@flappy7373 It pretty much looks like it to me lol.

[@LSuperSonicQ]

WOW this video took forever to get out....but I worked really hard on it so I hope you guys enjoy! Also I've since hit 25,000 subs which is very exciting! I appreciate the support. In addition, I'd like to credit (and thank) jaxcheese for letting me use his amazing original music in this video, and all of my recent videos. For his full body of work, check it out here" jaxcheese.bandcamp.com/

[@JimBimBum]

LSuperSonicQ talk about the Sherlock Holmes of Games

[@Technobitz]

LSuperSonicQ yay 720p

[@sophiehanssel2017]

If you celebrate Christmas I hope you get some Lost Media found as your Christmas present

[@davidm.27]

Don't say NTSC, Japanese games were also NTSC. That's why most people say NA for North America. For an instance, MJR didn't find an NTSC N64DD as the Japanese N64DD were also NTSC, he found a North American or NA N64DD. Maybe you should change the title and put some notes on the video. I was confused when I saw your the first time. I thought, why is the NTSC SGB2 a mystery?, is it about the hidden features? Is it about something hidden in the code? Or did he just mean NA SGB2? Good video, nonetheless. Never heard there was such a rumor.

[@bookwyrm5242]

I remember seeing Super Game Boy 2 carts for snes but they were just modded cases on the Japanese carts.

[@kazzfuchsia1073]

Holy crap, that’s lots of research. I wish I have the time to do such a thing. Your skills in research and investigation are incredible!!

[@JoseMartinez-jm1bu]

Kazz Fuchsia no. They aren't. When you modify a peripheral to get it to work on American SNES, it means it has never been released here. What an idiot .

[@sept5794]

Jose Martinez What a jealous boomer.

[@jazlyn2385]

MultiTarded You know thats not all that people do, right?

[@DeathsTacoIsHere]

This video was so interesting time flew when watching it . I didn't even know I watched a 20 minute video

[@FloppyDiskMaster]

same lol

[@cdreed3000]

woah I didn't believe you until I looked

[@skyelineee]

I'm obsessed with the sonic 1 beta mystery.

[@OnlyEpicEmber]

Diego243156 I don't think that will ever be found

[@OnlyEpicEmber]

Along with conker 12 tales

[@cybershroom9240]

Fun Fact it was found and SEGA did have it for the longest time. In fact according to the cutting room floor for the Sonic Mega Collection the first alpha for the Japanese Toy Show was gonna be included but during development some dumbass deleted it.

[@skyelineee]

+Cybershroom well that's great

[@superrayman3]

Where on the page does it say that because I'm on the Sonic Mega Collection cutting room floor page right now and I'm seeing no mention whatsoever of the first alpha shown at the Japanese Toy Show being deleted.

[@broran_]

This makes me want to search for the Drake and Josh pilot more than ever.

[@officialteamsombie]

do it

[@flines]

WE NEED TO DO IT

[@bigbonez9160]

be the savior to us all and seek on that great adventure

[@newphilmz3605]

I have it on DVD. Recorded in from TV. The miss nancy episode? It's even online

[@bigbonez9160]

@@newphilmz3605 if you have it upload it, the full thing is not online

[@linuxducky]

I know this is quite a dated video now, but here me out, this is another possible answer to this rumour: QVC and shopping channels are notorious for fact checking incorrectly. When it comes to technology, especially in this 90s/2000s they would always get a good chunk of specs wrong. I used to watch pricedroptv, a British equivalent to QVC and every time a phone would be featured, 9/10 they'd get something wrong e.g. they would say a Sony Ericsson phone has a 2.0MP camera when really it was a VGA, cheaper more lower end model but would use 'general data' of the average specs of a Sony Ericsson phone of the time. As a general rule you'd almost always expect the info to be slightly wrong, they did it for sat navs, cameras, phones... each and every one had something wrong. So what probably happened is Zerothis, as a child, was presented a grey Super Gameboy 1 on QVC (hence he believed the US NTSC variant was grey, unlike the Japanese variant) and then the presenters of this likely claimed it was a SGB2 or at least claimed it had the features of Super Gameboy 2 by accident due to poor/not very careful product research, Zerothis then goes out and buys the Super Gameboy 1 in store (he saw no difference when purchasing the product, further making me believe it is likely the SGB1 QVC were selling with misinformation, though he was a child as a kid when you love video games you know these small differences in fact you're more likely to notice these small differences, bc you obssess over these things until your parents buy you said game/accessory etc) and then notices it doesn't have the features stated.

[@Cris-un8ch]

Several years ago I saw a forum tread about a special red GBA that had the Atari logo on the cover. Apparently it was an employee exclusive but was made in honor of the release of the Atari Anniversary Edition on the GBA. I assume these are ether super rare or custom made.

[@Louthanjen]

21 minutes this will be good

[@spikefallyt3350]

AHEM 21:46

[@luffygear34]

My thoughts exactly

[@christopherwalkinalloverya5824]

This video would be better if the uploader had known the difference between "NTSC-J" vs "NTSC-U", but I still watched and liked anyway..

[@B2M2948]

Watched the whole thing and this video is so annoyingly repetitive. I understand being Thorough, but jesus this is so unappealing. 21 minutes of this guy going though false leads then telling us that “this user might be dead” over and over again is grating. Need to script his videos better or something, get rid of this repetitive crap.

[@therockwizard.9687]

Squelcherist really? This guy can not be very high quality, however he’s interesting. I don’t think your his people he’s reaching out too if you don’t like his content,

[@TheBriex]

Ooh, 20 minutes. Time to grab the popcorn.

[@Egar1]

Awesome video, but here's my theory: what if QVC did actually show an NTSC SGB 2 on tv, but it was a japanese one, and they were just trying to advertise the american one

[@Kimarnic]

What if they did but they didn't know it was a modified SGB2 from Japan?

[@blastmew65]

That wouldn't explain why Zerothis saw that it was grey like the original SG and not transparent like the blue SG2?

[@drdca8263]

What if they knew about the Japanese one, assumed a US one would exist, and advertised it with the US SG1 ? That could explain the grey case? Or alternatively Zerothis could have just forgotten the color?

[@reclamike3691]

*Macintosh Plus music plays*

[@ghostgirl7089]

Why dont you go to QVC? It was claimed to be sold on QVC And the QVC headquarters gives tours and everything, I went there! I went there a while ago though, but maybe you can go and ask possibly

[@The_Mister_E]

If anything, he could ask if they ever sold SGBs. Surely they keep a record of everything they sell, no?

[@chrisbomber101]

yeah or even send Nintendo an Email asking them? if anyone knows they would!

[@JRock424]

chrisbomber101 The author would have saved months of wasted time by emailing Nintendo first.

[@UltimatePerfection]

Lassi Kinnunen Yeah, but author made a basic research mistake: They didn't mail the supposed manufacturer or licensor first, which could save months of research.

[@EngineerOfChaos]

I went to a tour of QVC back this year. They claimed they keep like one or two of EVERY item ever sold on TV in their warehouse. So, if they did have it and that claim of theirs didn't have an exception, then they would SURELY have it.

[@LegendBegins]

This is amazing. Cyber-sleuthing like this is the kind of thing that reminds me why I still watch KZbin-there were so many different paths and scenarios, yet you navigated them perfectly, with a little luck and perseverance. You've definitely earned a new subscriber.

[@ObiTrev]

Perhaps somebody at QVC had acquired a few Super Gameboy 2s and hoped to sell them in the states before it was released here officially. Noting that they were NTSC, they might have thought they were American Versions. Probably no one bought them and they were expunged from the records after realizing their mistake. *A similar thing happened to me* My local Walmart actually sold "Pokemon Diamond GB" the telefang bootleg in its glass case. Even with no knowledge of it prior, I knew it was fake. Some Chinese Supplier probably had it on a shipping manifest and ignorant Walmart employees figured it was legitimate or someone who worked there was trying to make a quick buck. When you could find a Digimon Branded Beyblade knock off at a 99 Cents Store, everything and anything is possible I guess. *On a Different Note* Does anyone remember websites called "Nintendoland" and "Planet Zebes" back in the early to mid 2000s? They had forums, fan art, a history of Nintendo Products, an in browser Metroid Pet (giga pet?), news and etc. Nintendoland is now an official Nintendo site and PlanetZebes is some weird baby clothes store. They used to be my go to for Nintendo news and rumors.

[@hdofu]

I'm gonna agree this is most likely a rumor, if it was sold on qvc there would be numbers of them produced (even if a limited run I believe they have a set number of inventory they require before they will offer up items) that at least a few examples would be out in the wild today. What could be possible would be a misprint on the page for the item possibly taking information provided for features not actually included. It wasn't that uncommon to list things not in existence (still waiting for my Super Mario Advance 4 E-reader series 3 and 4 cards to come)

[@pokepress]

David Brailsford yeah, in order for it to be sold there, I would expect them to have had an inventory in at least the thousands, in which case I think we’d be seeing a unit or two on eBay with a US-shaped cartridge every now and again.

[@PuffyRainbowCloud]

Actually, could it not be possible that QVC did sell the Japanese model at some point? That they got a hold of some limited stock, maybe from a shady third party? Japan is NTSC-J, so it would still be an NTSC product.

[@darknes4150]

they could have also filed out the region lock which was just plastic tabs making it work in the us

[@hdofu]

+PuffyRainbowCloud if this had happened, there'd be units out in the wild on sites like ebay, theres too much interest in retro consoles and dealing in them for this item if it had existed for not a single example to be out in the open. If it was even a super rare low items available surplus they'd still have documentation people would have made and some sales since then other places. Theres just overwhelming evidence this does not exist. That's not to say it's impossible... only extremely unlikely.

[@PhantomDusclops92]

I'm asking you something I asked some time ago on your "Jay Douglas" Falcon video. Years ago, in an article about the history of many Nintendo characters from an Italian videogame magazine called Cube, I found a weird fact. The article mentioned that, according to some undescribed source (which nowadays I believe was either Nintendo Power or some Nintendo official magazine), Captain Falcon and Fox McCloud helped Professor Oak in the creation of the ZERO-ONE, the vehicle you ride in Pokémon Snap. Can you find some source on this weird crossover backstory on one of my favourite Nintendo 64 games?

[@_NightmareVideo]

This is why I'm subbed. you make these lost media videos way better then the 1000s of people out there doing it. can't wait for more

[@phsycospacezilla]

It's like internet archaeology, just so engrossing.

[@hananezumi]

Hmm, so, the source of the rumor is that Zerothis claims that he saw a Super Gameboy being sold on QVC which had a link port... Maybe it was actually a different non-consumer model which had some different port, for the purpose of displaying the product?

[@eymed2023]

I'll tell you, it could be anything, but the one thing I know it's not is a false memory. It's certainly possible that he missremembered a couple details, but he wouldn't create a memory like that from scratch. When the brain creates memories from scratch, it's usually a form of protecting itself from a trauma or something. And forgive me for the sarcasm, but I don't see how faking a memory of an obscure peripheral could protect someone from a traume. Needless to say, I don't think that's the case. What may be that case is that it doesn't have anything to do with memory but rather the model he saw on tv was a modified japanese SGB2 or even a modified SGB1 of any region.

[@SilverScaleMA]

@@eymed2023 either that or he mistook the older SGB for the SGB2 and what he saw was the American version of the peripheral for the SGB. Especially with his explanation of "he got one that he thought was the same but wasn't". It probably was but since he assumed the one on tv was for the SGB2 then they must have been different. QVC does occasionally have sales for older products at a highly discounted price so they could have been having a sale and since it was around when the newer version was coming out (or would have been) then that is where the confusion came in. But at this point he has defended and insisted that his perception was correct for so long it would be very hard for him to admit he might have been mistaken.

[@eymed2023]

@@SilverScaleMA That could be the case. But I think the simplest explanation is that the advertisement he saw used a japanese SGB2 to advertise the american SGB1. Maybe the advertisers tought no one would notice the difference. So it wouldn't be unreasonable for a viewer to assume they'd be selling the SGB2 in the USA. If we could find the advertisement in question, it could provide the answers.

[@christopherbottger]

Didnt something like this exist for the n64?

[@lilred7679]

When LSSQ uploads a 21 Minute Video EDIT:Megaman 11 and a 21 Minute LSSQ video... Best. Day. Ever

[@AJ-nd2cf]

Lil Red sam e

[@LateNightPerson]

Lil Red fucking agree

[@funnychic7]

Lil Red Yeah! :D

[@YellowYoshi398]

Wow, that was a wild ride. Incredible detective work. Definitely sounds like Zerothis is mistaken about a childhood memory and FM2000 just echoed it, probably out of a desire to practice good faith at the cost of factuality. I've seen this type of thing happen time and time again on the Internet. What's really interesting is how this simple rumor would be echoed over and over again from multiple sources, including the print article that started this whole goose chase. Whoever wrote that article probably never would have guessed that someone would be hunting down and interviewing the sources of the rumor some 20 years later!

[@darknes4150]

nevermind

[@xaviermccloud4586]

Well honestly I don't want to be worng but I remember seeing one at my cousins house and he was playing Metroid.

[@preservationera9768]

Well, despite the fact that no US version exists, I have a small bit of good news: there actually was another version of the SGB2. Obviously, it was still exclusive to Japan, but it had a non-translucent, sky blue shell instead. There were minor box differences, notably certain black and white drawings being full color and the GB Pocket in the example photo being replaced with a GBC. And unlike Zerothis, I can prove it to you right now, though I can't get to the image of the box yet. See this link: nintendoera.com/super-game-boy-2-rare-revision/

[@ple5411]

is there a way you can show us but in a new website since it doesnt wanna load?

[@troymyjam9866]

This video was quite the ride! You were my favorite youtuber for a while, but you haven't posted for a while, now that this has released, I can say THAT THE WAIT WAS INDEED WORTH IT! Please continue this work, as always, GREAT WORK!

[@molotera8789]

I hope someone mails u a JP SGB2 as a consolation prize

[@retrotechnerd3124]

First time viewer here, and I must say that you put A LOT of time and effort into your videos. In fact, your research is so thorough that you have earned my subscription (and the RTN badge of nerdiness). :)

[@nbnidoran]

i love longer in depth videos like this! what a cool mystery, keep up the great work!!

[@MDPToaster]

I swear I’ve seen FM2000 in some KZbin comments.

[@LamarINH]

Triggered Potato’s I’ll let you figure that out

[@diegos.loayza3706]

@Triggered Potato’s really nigga

[@charminultrasoftbear]

This was literally one of the best and deepest lost media video you made man! But I think that time when you were trying to find A Day With Spongebob took longer.

[@austin_the_brimstone]

Truly some stellar internet research, and incredible detective work! I love this type of content. It's amazing how the internet is such a large resource, we think everything's available at the tip of our fingers, but in reality the things we want are sometimes buried within the recesses of the web.

[@RedTalonZ64]

NTSC =/= Usa NTSC is the a of televison system japan is also a NTSC region so we already know were they are but we don't know where the american ones are

[@ArabellaFlynn]

Not likely. NTSC and PAL systems use different refresh rates (60 Hz vs 50 Hz), different number of scan lines (525 vs 625) and different ways of transmitting the color part of the picture. PAL televisions tend to be more tolerant of different scan rates than NTSC ones are, but even if you could get the picture to stop rolling, it would be in black and white.

[@quayzar1]

There are adapters that allow NTSC SNES and SFC games work on Pal systems at the lower clock speed and frame rate of PAL regions by using a PAL cartridge for timing and a NTSC cartridge from ROM data but I'm not sure if it would work with a Super Gameboy. There appear to be projects that are trying to build an in cart solution but I haven't seen anyone use the method I mentioned and I live in the US now.

[@quayzar1]

Thanks for mentioning this. Japanese NTSC-J is 100% compatible with the North American NTSC-M and is effectively the same except for a lower black blanking level. Adjusting brightness levels is the only requirement.

[@Janni9009]

In the SNES case: Pal games on any NTSC device shouldnt be a problem except for the tabs in the slot. NTSC-U on Pal: Well, we have the Action Replay for that case, just put a pal game in the back and the NTSC game on top, and no hardware mods required. not even the lockout chip can do anything against it. NTSC-J on Pal: Works straight out of the box mostly, sometimes the action replay v2 (with the SuperFX extra pins) is required tho from my experience. (and the timing and scanlines shouldnt be off normally)

[@blueface]

Your detective work is impeccable. I love all your videos man, keep it up!

[@ianmccune6566]

I cant wait till you do the lost Green Day album

[@NeoGraena]

Bloody Dawn cigarettes & valentines = pre american idiot

[@eloy40x]

Bloody Dawn you mean The Network's debut

[@CESkootchy]

I think FM2000 meant that the Super Gameboy released in Japan is literally NTSC. Japan uses NTSC-J for analog video wheras the US uses NTSC-M. The only difference is a small shift in white balanced and different RF channel assignments. That's why you have to tune your North American TV well into the UHF range to play your import Famicom.

[@mechamicro]

How to turn the TV into UHF range?

[@seancdaug]

Nguyen Minh On an old analog TV, anything above channel 14 was considered UHF. The only real difference between UHF and VHF were the frequencies at which the signal was broadcast: the higher the channel number, the higher the frequency. Japan used to use a frequency range that started higher than the range used in the USA, so a low channel assignment for Japan would have been considerably higher, well into the UHF range, on a US set. The VHF/UHF distinction was fairly arcane, even before the HD/digital switch in the late 2000s (which rendered the whole thing moot). Initially, TVs were built to only receive VHF signals, so they simply couldn't pick up any channels above 14. The UHF range was subsequently opened up, but the first couple of generations of TVs that supported it did so by way of an entirely separate tuner. In short, you had two different dials to change channel. By the 1980s, most TVs had gotten to the point where it was all handled internally and I wager most people weren't even aware of the distinction between VHF and UHF after that.

[@ErinGoBragh0930]

US and Canada use NTSC-U/C, not M. It has more to do with voltage, less about video signals. PAL uses more power, so a PAL game would require a PAL console to work. But, they cannot work in the US or Japan, without a step-down voltage converter, because our power outlets do not supply a high enough voltage. And, vice versa.

[@Ziimbiian]

Just wait for MetalJesusRocks to find some obscure thing He has a NTSC 64DD, which is Legendary Rare. It wont surprise me that he casually gets a NTSC GameBoy 2 even if you get the "it doesnt exist" conclusion

[@voidofspaceandtime4684]

same

[@davidm.27]

Unlikely. The N64 DD was planned to be released in the NA region from the beginning and it would had been released during the N64 time period if it would had been a success in Japan (which didn't). On the other hand, by 1998, the SNES was pretty much discontinued to favor the N64. Only a couple of games were released in early 1998: Kirby's Dreamland, a Tiertex game based on the Lion King and the Majesco version of Frogger. After that, everything else never had an NA release, not even Rockman & Forte which could have had good sales. For Nintendo of America there was no market for a peripheral that wasn't the N64 or the GBC in 1998, especially to cover a need that was not yet in America. The reason there was an SGB2 was Pokémon, that's the reason it had the Game Link port, to ease the exchange of pokemons (this feature would later inspire the N64 Transfer Pack). Pokémon arrived in America in 1999. It's a completely different situation than the N64 DD. It was a Mandela Effect case, that Zero guy probably saw the SGB2 somewhere else on TV but somehow he believes it was QVC.

[@hdofu]

If there is such a unit, its not going to be a for sale unit but rather a prototype deisgn, that said I don't think there were ever plans to bring this here

[@sprittel]

@@hdofu you are right, it's detailed in the SNES hardware section of thevideogameproject.com

[@yesu1813]

Woah, well done! As a blogger I know how stressful this investigations can be, I LOVE your content, keep going!

[@VisionThing]

Golden Power Why did you explain what a blogger does? Are you special?

[@yesu1813]

VisionThing sorry, since some people STILL confuse a blogger with video-blogger, I wanted to be specific.... And no, I'm not special, why you say that?

[@sergiogonzalez7018]

This... this was a beautiful video Thank you for putting so much effort into this video

[@blackbearcj5819]

Yeah sorry ZeroThis but I doubted this the second "QVC" was said. It sounds like he was a young kid when he saw it on QVC in 1998/1999... but QVC was on a lot in my house when I was younger that's all my grandmother would watch 24/7 and she would buy things from it constantly. She knew how much my uncle and I loved video games and how my uncle always wanted the latest thing for the consoles and would have snatched this up as that's how she did all her gift shopping. Also QVC had a lot of deals on Furbies during that time and I really feel like that it would be more well remembered because a lot more people, young kids and even teenagers like I was at the time, were watching QVC to catch when the furbies were on before they sold out (either to beg for one or to let their parents know they were on again to buy for gifts.) There at least would have been older electronics collectors picking them up who were on there for some of the the hot items that came out around that time if it were real.

[@deku812]

Amazing detective work here. I never heard of the QVC rumor myself and was active in the Nintendo fansite community around that time.

[@divinedoodoo]

Do a search for a parallel rare cyber dragon from the "destroyed" yugioh toy line

[@FooPanda]

divinedoodoo It does indeed exist!

[@TheVoxxification]

Yo NTSC isn't the right term here. The japanese version of the super gameboy 2 was also NTSC, I have one that's been modified to work on an american SNES. US and Japanese TVs used NTSC, Europe used PAL. edit- welp.... nvm

[@GuyNamedSean]

TheVoxxification - I’m surprised that he didn’t know that. I figured that it would have been apparent at some point in the research.

[@TheVoxxification]

he did, I said it before finishing the video...

[@OnlyEpicEmber]

Yep, but the leads did specify American. Just could've made the title clearer, although technically the regions are NTSC-J and NTSC

[@mirabilis]

CrAzYgIrL But a Japanese and an American SNES produces identical video signals...

[@OnlyEpicEmber]

Yes but the regions have different names. It's probably a marketing term but it is a thing.

[@retrogamelord3763]

You should try to find information on Future boy Conan, a anime from 1979 by the famous Hayao Miyazaki. The show was dubbed in multiple languages by animax, however the english dub is lost. The show shows up in their website through the internet archive, aswell as a 3do game from the 90s having a very short clip of the english dub. Other than that, we consider the english dub of this show lost. It's an amazing show and I'd love to see it uncovered!

[@derekwildstar1572]

I did some research and this anime seems to be really interesting. I'll be watching it, thanks.

[@retrogamelord3763]

No problem, it's my favorite anime as of right now. :)

[@derekwildstar1572]

Retro Game Lord I'd like to recommend you Uninhabited Planet Survive, it's my favorite. I can't say if it's like Future Boy Conan, but the animation style is similar. If you like heartwarming stories you should watch it

[@retrogamelord3763]

DerekWildstar Alright I'll check it out sometime, thanks

[@sadfalcon9623]

Retro Game Lord also he should cover the 2007 Phantom Blood Movie

[@jhaynewe]

this is one of your best videos to date

[@TheCarbonFreezer]

A new LSSQ video? And it's long?!?! I think I'm in heaven. Keep up the great work and congrats on 25K!

[@monkeywithocd]

Hey, despite watching a lot of your videos, I can't remember if you've tracked down any lost videogames, but I figured there's no harm in asking: Back in 2001 there was this canceled Lego Bionicle game, which before the fan site BZPower was taken offline for an extended period of time in I believe 2010 we did have someone who had proof he had the game (you can still find the videos on KZbin) and wanted to release it, even seemed to have a plan in that regard, but we weren't able to coax him into releasing his copy before the site went down, and to the best of my knowledge he never came back after the site went back up. So of course what I'm asking is that if you feel like it, I would really love it if you could track down a copy of that game. It would be awesome to finally have that game come to light. EDIT: In case you do, the guy's KZbin seems to be MarkOfMoD but I think he went by deepbrick on BZPower

[@NovaCrackers]

Peter Gill Very interesting.

[@darknes4150]

neat man i wonder how many copies exist then that cant be the only one

[@Kitsyfluff]

1:43 in, I'm gonna stop you right there. Japan runs the NTSC standard on their systems. An english copy, or a PAL copy would be more mysterious.

[@ronnieDaking]

Nobody Someone On their period

[@lpnp9477]

Nobody: He literally doesn't mention it later. He mistakes FM2000's info that it is NTSC to mean that it was region-free. What he meant is that Japan uses the NTSC standard, so the cart would be NTSC. Why you gotta be so mean, especially when you're so wrong?

[@adamsfusion]

He doesn't mention it later. He says it's region free, which it's not. He's mistaken on the standard Japan uses.

[@VashStarwind]

think that he meant it would play gameboy games region free, but how the actual cartridge plugs into the snes is not

[@MKtheinstrumentalist]

What about TheGame1988...? He was a potential lead but did you even try to contact him? The fact that ZeroThis believed that someone on GameFAQ actually owned it seems like too much of a lead to pass up, Mandela or not.

[@mario64remix]

These videos are very interesting. I am now curious about what that guy saw on that QVC broadcast though.

[@DaAmazinStaplr]

He most likely did see the SGB2. QVC was notorious for selling Japanese related things. They sold Japanese Pokemon cards all of the time.

[@mario64remix]

In that case he couldn't have been the only one to have seen it. Yet, nobody else remembers anything.

[@DaAmazinStaplr]

It could have been one of the broadcasts that was on super late at night, as in 1 o'clock in the morning. One of the broadcasts I've seen in the past was a set of Japanese Pokemon cards and the only reason I remember it was because the set containing Marill and all of the rumors about "Pikablu" before Gold and Silver was released in the US, so I begged my mom to buy it (which was an obvious no).. It's doubtful that anyone has any info on that particular QVC sale or even remembers it.

[@mario64remix]

Fair enough. I have to admit I'm not familiar with the network.

[@cesariojpn]

That wasn't QVC, it was called "Shop At Home." It's now rebranded under the Jewelry Tevevision name.

[@jamstarr]

20+ min of lssq? HELL YEAH

[@youtubepoop1225]

WEEGEE THE MASTER YEAH YEAH BEEBIS

[@capeli]

Most captivating research I've seen in years, 21 minutes that felt like nothing and waiting for more. Great job. You won a new subscriber! Thanks.

[@ViewbobTrue]

O, TIS A HAPPY DAY, FOR LSSQ HAS UPLOADED! (and it's over 20 minutes, too!)

[@TectonicImprov]

Holy shit dude you take internet detective to another level. Great work!

[@genericname_]

I love the amount of dedication you put into your videos! Amazing job!

[@superyoshikid55]

This is probably the most interesting Lost Media video for me so far, especially how much you detailed the search for the information.

[@PeterGriffin11]

When I first saw the title of this video I thought it was about a rare Incredibles game based on the animated movie from 2005 made for the Super gameboy 2.

[@greenshyguygaming4502]

what

[@vvvaire]

Everytime i watch your videos it makes me want to search for lost media myself, then i remember the time, effort, and patience it takes and i don’t go for it. Good video, as always.

[@YoMamaBih]

Damn. Now I finally know how stressful these videos could be making and how long it all takes. I'm definitely not making a comment to rush in the future. Take your time bro and keep trucking. This is some good shit.

[@SeanSMST]

LSSQ, you are such an amazing content creator and contributor to lost media, you make me enjoy hearing about lost media and I wish your videos were longer because I can't get enough of your videos. You put in so much time and work just for this small community that listens to you that it almost seems insane that you do it but I really appreciate it

[@surfinjj1514]

This video was exciting from start to finish. 😁

[@Godslegotable]

Amazing research!!! The story of you finding this out was worth the watch in it's self!Glad to know what you figured out :)

[@monkeywithocd]

NTSC is the TV format used in North America *and* Japan, so saying it didn't get an NTSC release is incorrect. I'm sure the rest of the video is good as usual (I'm only a minute and a half in), but that really bothered me.

[@derekwildstar1572]

It's because the japanese one it's called NTSC-J, but yeah you're kinda right :p

[@derekwildstar1572]

LSuperSonicQ It's ok, here in Brazil for example we use PAL-M and it's completely different from the european PAL. And Japan uses NTSC-J, not NTSC. To avoid confusion, let's just call it as "American SGB2" haha

[@monkeywithocd]

DerekWildstar- NTSC is the base name which includes all variants like NTSC-J. The Version used in North America is NTSC-M, so my point remains valid. Though thank you for that information, because otherwise I might not have bothered to look into NTSC's differences in other regions. For those curious, NTSC-J seems to differ from NTSC-M mainly in it's black level being lower, thus brightness would be slightly off if viewing an NTSC-J signal on an NTSC-M device.

[@monkeywithocd]

Rolando Royster - Because when a lot of this technology was being made we didn't have the technology for easily sharing information like we do today. Because of this, when things like power, computer, and television technology were starting to be standardized, areas would decide on their own what to do instead of coming to some worldwide consensus, and so we had technologies that, though similar, were developed parallel to each other without any, or at least little, thought to what other territories were doing. Also, NTSC was developed to be backwards compatible with the older standardization for black & white TV transmissions so that people who already owned back & white TV sets wouldn't be effected by the transition to color, where as PAL was built from the ground up for color. EDIT: After glancing on the Wikipedia page, it appears Europe did consider using NTSC, but decided against it due to some downsides with NTSC that would really prove difficult given their environment. I'm guessing that had they gone with NTSC, they still would have had to modify it slightly (NTSC-N/NTSC50 or PAL-N I'm guessing would be the closest thing we have to what that would be), due to differences in their power system and likely improvements they would make regardless to make it work better in their environment. Sorry if that was a bit rambley, but I just wanted to give you some of the basics. The history of all this is really fascinating and I highly suggest you look up more specific information if you're interested. TL;DR - Global standardizations for technology is a relatively really recent occurrence, and due to the logistics of trying to change fundamental standards, like for instance power, we are still stuck with a lot of technology decisions that were made before we started making global standards. TL;DR EDIT - Also, humans historically can't agree on anything, even in the best of conditions. =P

[@terryfrost43]

This is honestly your best video to date. I was constantly on the edge of my seat.

[@187Streak]

Have you seen LSuperSonicQ?

[@Louthanjen]

yes we all have here

[@liekkianimaatio3652]

187Streak the Kappa Mikey search like literally 40 minutes ago

[@JopieHaargel]

187Streak I saw a PAL version of him when I was a kid.

[@jjjoshiii6659]

He is up there ^

[@nathangelaude4787]

187Streak no what’s that

[@user-74652]

I have not seen any of your videos before, but this one definitely made me interested in your channel. I am impressed with all the time, effort, and thought you put into researching this, as well as your process of explaining exactly what you did in such a way that it's easy to follow.

[@OSSOYT]

Great video. Can I ask, where do you personally find all these Lost Media topics? Most of these topics are basically unheard of until you mention it.

[@DanteToska]

LSuperSonicQ, you may not be my absolute favorite KZbinr, but you are, in my eyes, the coolest KZbinr. A 20 minute mystery video. Amazing.

[@FilFee]

*This video is underrated. It's amazing!*

[@TRIFORCE89]

I have a recollection of Japanese Pokémon merchandise (trading cards mostly) occasionally showing up on The Shopping Channel, so doesn't seem farfetched to me that a Japan-import SGB2 may have surfaced on QVC at some point.

[@eddiebanuelos5460]

Wow..great job on this video man. Honestly, it was very intriguing and I could not stop watching, I felt the nostalgia in this and it made me feel 5 again. I appreciate the work you put into this and hope you keep us at the edge of our seats just like you did with this video. Again, fantastic job LSSQ

[@cliffyfromboro3878]

First video I have watched on this channel. Wow! Loved every second of it. Seeing those old sites and remembering how the internet used to look was such a nostalgia trip, really put me back in my teenage self again.

[@paulbunyangonewild7596]

Actually it probably was ntsc. As "NTSC" is actually just an electricity standard. 60 htz to be exact, and ntsc power is common in Japan. The electricity standards of a country is something that was engrained into the design of the powerplants. Also sad to see this isn't true. This was during that time when Nintendo thought Americans didn't like cool stuff.

[@noop9k]

Paulbuniongonewild54 no, this is not electricity standard. and japan actually has 2 electricity systems.

[@xtokumaru]

NTSC is not an electricity standard, it's a video signal standard.

[@YeahIWrestledaBear]

I never comment on videos, but I really feel the need to tell you that this was incredibly well made, and that I truly appreciate the effort that you put in. I'd like to see you making big budget Netflix documentaries some day!

[@PEISFARTCOOKMONKEY]

I bought a gameboy color from fm2000 and I just now see this video

[@galladeguy123]

Maybe the author saw some info about the (Japanese) SGB2 being NTSC, thought it was talking about an American version since people usually equate NTSC with America, and ended up creating a false memory about QVC and writing about it. That's the only thing I can think of as to where this rumor came from.

[@DJ____7235]

Can you cover a lost Saturday morning Cartoon Express cartoon called "Itsy Bitsy Spider"?

[@DJ____7235]

Nathan Plays you know it too!?!?!

[@DJ____7235]

Nathan Plays have you seen any episodes?

[@DJ____7235]

Nathan Plays there's 3 episodes on KZbin.

[@jjjoshiii6659]

MetalSonic1993 i feel like i remember that name, it rings a bell to me

[@DJ____7235]

Joshua Tobin I asked one of the voice actors on Twitter and now she's trying to find the lost episodes.

[@chayden153]

This channel is so underrated, you are definitely one of the best lost media KZbinrs

[@nelsonnicholson6175]

Your videos are always a joy! ...But you should work on that "Mandela" pronunciation.

[@Dilan_Duck]

Wow. I really love how you really want to search the lost media, not like some guys who just there is a lost thing and that's all, no. You make very difficult research and you are very motivated for lost media, that's why i like this channel ! I really hope you will continue this serie, you are awesome :)

[@HeadsetGuy]

Um... You do know Japan uses NTSC, right?

[@m0m02k]

Headset Guy I think he means NTSC-U

[@raposadislexa]

I just think fascinating the time and effort you put on those missions... It's almost magical and surreal that you've find the person who write a rumor, almost 20 years ago where internet wasnt as near as it is today... Feels like an alternate reality face to face to ours... feels kinda scary in a weird way :V I'm really impressed with your work and I just love when lost pieces of the past see the lightday once again... It's like opening a time capsule, both nostalgic and revealing, with the feel of a pirate findind its golden chest.

[@The404Studios]

Subbed!

[@brunotatekawa5038]

Wow man, your videos are awesome!! You take simple internet tools to a new level of research and complexity. I had never heard of most mysteries you talk about on the videos, yet I always get so interested on them while watching! Keep up the good work, and cheers from Brazil!

[@LSuperSonicQ]

Whoa all the way from Brazil! Awesome, glad you enjoy my videos!

[@dvdcopyofsharktaleVEVO]

LSuperSonicQ's clue Odyssey

[@snooPINGAS]

The amount of effort in this was fantastic, great work.

[@Tay-xj5ud]

This is hard to get into when Nintendo isn't part of your childhood.

[@justina1909]

Though In FM2000s original post it said "QVC(the home shopping channel)" though QVC and the home shopping network are two completely different networks. I know it's almost certain it never existed, but maybe you were looking in the wrong place

[@BullyGirlUzi]

It's the same thing just different networks. HSN and QVC are both home shopping channels.

[@ViewpointProd]

the SGB2/SGB/GB have no such thing as a region lock, they are all region free, the SGB is NTSC-J

[@lordsofkoble]

Kalhi Balto not true. only actual GB is region free.

[@ViewpointProd]

the super gameboys are region free, hence why i use my japanese one in my pal snes

[@lordsofkoble]

Kalhi Balto Well I can't get a Japanese super gameboy to work on my Pal snes. It works fine in my super famicom, also my Pal snes works fine and I have a uk super gameboy which works in it. I've owned multiples of all the above and never found them to be cross compatible with unmodded consoles.

[@adz693]

Yep, I'm UK - and I imported a Super Famicom once I learned about 60Hz and black borders an stuff. My PAL Super Gameboy didn't work in it. So I imported SGB2 once I learned about SGB playing at the wrong speed. And that didn't work in my PAL SNES. Pretty sure SGB are region locked.

[@m4xwellmurd3r]

There is no NTSC region lock. The only lock is ntsc vs pal. You can play all jp ntsc carts in a usa ntsc super nintendo if you clip the tabs off inside the usa system.

[@sadlad6603]

You deserve way more than 50,000 views, dude. We can all see you put crazy time and effort into this video and appreciate it. looking forward to seeing more lost media

[@blackroseknight77]

I love a good mystery. :D #LSuperSonicQ

[@aznashwan]

Fantastically in-depth and well-researched video man, thanks a lot for taking the time to make and share it!

[@FumoReimuGaming]

Superra Gamee Boi

[@lieutenant_lucky_rocks]

This video officially earned you a sub. I love love love lost media, especially cartoons and video games, and both is even better. I’m the kind of person that would stay up until two in the morning googling the names of past animators in some weird abandoned project. I’m kicking myself for not knowing about your stuff sooner. 👌

[@dvdcopyofsharktaleVEVO]

At 5:07 it says "Stikes" lol

[@babysinclairfan]

On a related note, an American retail N64 disk drive was found by KZbin user metaljesusrocks and it was verified. Unfortunately he didn't find any games with it so all we get is an English title screen

[@lupeayala3125]

Wow! Great job my good man! 1st time watcher and I was intrigued by your research. I felt like I was in school again learning. 🍻🤓

[@Medachod]

Very cool stuff here. When I think of lost video games, I always wonder if that Shantae 2: Risky Revolution exists it in any physical form, given it was finished and simply lacked a publisher.

[@WA_Stokins]

Medachod What do you mean by 'physical form'? If you mean prototypes, then Wayforward streamed the game showing they still have it. I don't know if it's just digital or physical though, I couldn't find out. Also i highly doubt any prototypes left Wayforward. There was also supposed to be a plug and play version, Shantae TV, and was even shown at an electronics fair but no pics resurfaced. Again, probably still with Wayforward

[@Sourinksoda]

Nice job man! Thanks for putting in the long hrs to get this vid out there its a really good one!

[@Clay3613]

It was not uncommon in the early days of QVC to be a late night dumping ground for unsellable or niche products. Even back then, nobody would record QVC 24/7. You earned yourself a sub!