The Incredible Story Of Apartheid's Black Shock Troops

Mercenary Town (2005): The notorious 32 Battalion -- black soldiers who fought for white governments - were the shock troops of apartheid. Now the ANC wants to dismantle their retirement town and scatter the community.
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The town of Pomfret may stand on the site of an old asbestos mine but it's the only home the soldiers of 32 Battalion know. When their unit was disbanded at the end of apartheid, they retired here. "This is our land ... if we are spread out I believe many of us will suffer", fears one resident. But when 70 mercenaries, many of them current or former residents of Pomfret, were arrested for attempting a coup in Equatorial Guinea, authorities acted quickly. They announced that Pomfret would be dismantled and its 3,000 residents evicted. "It's unjust", complains one former soldier. They feel they're being punished for their violent past.
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[@fawlforafricawithlove7141]

My father, the late Sgt Jose Correia Pinto Ribeiro (Robbie), was denied the HONORIS CRUX. On recommendation by Col Jan D. Breytenbach, it was still denied because he was black. I am proud of the man my father was, and let me tell you that there is no greater feeling in the world, nor the words to describe the feeling i get every time i hold his medals in my hands. Same goes for my uncle, 'L. Carlos A. Correia Pinto Ribeiro, also remembered as "Little Robbie" A special thank you, from me, to the men who tirelessly, to this day, celebrate and honor my father and his contribution. Carla M. Pinto Ribeiro

[@vryheidvirdieboervolk973]

Your father fought on the right side .he as well as almost all sadf members were however givin the short end of the stick by the new "equil for all" government. Hope you are still well.

[@nekongovitankanga]

FAWL For Africa with Love, from what I have read here I think you are either from Angola or Portugal. First of all, it is sad to read what happened to your late father. The 32 Battalion mostly former soldiers of the FNLA. Yours is similar to mine, however my relatives learnt a lesson soon after Angola's Independence, they were part of the UPA/FNLA in Kinkusu-DRC today, where their base was located, after the defeat to MPLA and we lost hope of HOLDEN ROBERTO becoming the president of Angola, and the pain of loosing our relatives, the elders decided never again will any person from my family will join the army. So, during all those years of fighting my family were just spectators, even if one gets caught during the round ups, will do his best to escape, and it was like that. However, it may look very bleak for those guys, but if they truly repent, Angola will take them back, MPLA are not the evil people assume they are, actually one of the most responsible party in Africa, if yourself or any of your family members are in such situation, all you can do is present yourselves at the embassy or get the red Cross involved. Angola is the land of your ancestors, the past is ugly, but the future will be better.

[@pieterwillembotha6719]

Both of those men knew Danny Roxo. I want to look into the Honoris Crux claim. If I recall correctly, Jan also suggest that Danny get the Hon. Crux for his service, but was eventually denied. I want to know more though.

[@brucebekker4175]

Robbie was a legend and gentleman the ANC got what they sowed

[@deborahlaing8724]

Sgt Jose Correia Pinto Ribeiro is an honoured soldier, who, along with his brothers-in-arms fought for their belief in an Angola free of communist influence. It's sad. Respect to your honourable father.

[@EVZebra]

32 Battalion was undefeated in 12 years of front line action, they never lost a fight.

[@iphoneupdate]

but they lost the war, and are hated...even more hated than the white members

[@nqobiledlamini7714]

@@iphoneupdate Well said.

[@PeterNgola]

​@@iphoneupdateso weird

[@pieterwillembotha6719]

misleading title for several reasons: 1) 32Bn weren't _shock troops_ since there hasn't been a designation for such an infantry role like that since WWI. They were light infantry with a reconnaissance wing that also participated in special operations. In essence, they were a separate insurgent group that operated within Angola. 2) The film suggests that this battalion was led by white officers, this is only partly true, as there were Non-commissioned Officers, Warrant Officers and highly talented enlisted whites that also served in this Battalion. On that note, there were several black NCOs and WO's and at least one Officer Commanding, who was black portuguese-speaking. 3) The term "black nationalist", as the movie asserts, it a misnomer. These troops are from Holden Roberto's FNLA and some of them are probably old enough to have been a part of the UPA, a group which fought against the Portuguese colonial rule. To assert that the MPLA was black nationalist, but the FNLA, and by extension, the members of 32Bn, are not black nationalist is logically absurd. 4) They weren't _mercenaries_ since these people weren't fighting for money, rather an ideology closely akin to the FNLA's which held an anti-communist stance as one of it's main points. 5) No, they were never called _The Buffalo Soldiers,_ they were called _The Buffalo Battalion._ 6) PW Botha never sold out 32Bn, that was solely DeKlerk's move. Botha maintained that he was willing to talk peace, so long as South Africa could keep her Military and the communists would abide by the agreed upon rules of detente and cease-fire, to which they never did. Further, Botha was ousted in a soft-coup by members of the National Party, including DeKlerk himself. 7) Also, the term "black nationalist" or "black nationalist movement" within the continent of Africa is an absurd notion that was coined by Steve Biko, a communist, who studied (indoctrinated?) in the USSR and was an asset to the USSR. Africa has never been a "black power" movement or state, it is and will remain, a highly tribalised continent which does not, nor ever did, recognize the ideas of black nationalist. To force, for example, the Zulu and !Xhosa together would end in them killing eachother. 8) JMP leaves out the fact that there was widespread violence in the black townships due to communists lynching black people who either lightly supported the government of their own tribal leaders, or wished to remain neutral.

[@eriksvsirocco]

Dankie oom

[@ZuluBill]

Tsek uyahlanya wena.. umdidi lento emphuma lapho..

[@accountretired9479]

What utter nonsense

[@pieterwillembotha6719]

@@accountretired9479 which part exactly?

[@squidembyro8334]

Weren;t ANC the ones who put there enemies in tyres and lit them on fire? Pretty rich for them to go on about other peoples' violence...

[@Caver461]

Agreed, nobody should be going on about these people being any worse than any other group. As for brutality these guys were possibly somewhat constrained by laws that others were in no way beholden to.

[@johnritchie4801]

Sure were

[@abel6642]

@John Muhleisen ANC gets its orders from Afrikaner brotherhood. They in charge of the anc and still profiting even with the economy collapse

[@charisma7095]

Wasnt the NP the ones at fault for all of this.

[@charisma7095]

These guys were sellouts

[@JenniferUpton_2]

The narrator is a completely biased and quite frankly she is ridiculous. Sensationalism - the woman is a disgrace!

[@ThysLouwrens]

+Jennifer Upton , She is a typical leftist liberal, karma is a bitch.

[@damnedidwedo6543]

+Jennifer Upton She's a CUNT!

[@bryanhurd9955]

Big time,leftists really evil

[@ubejhane1384]

You don’t know what you are talking about. SA did not loose any war. We were recognized as one of the best trained military units in the world.

[@45ett]

32 was one of the best. Viva 32 !!!. u guys rocked

[@GNel2511]

What a bunch of BS, very unprofessional journalism. (Making up a story by listening to only one side and not doing any research.)

[@briantrend1812]

journeyman pictures Marxist lying muppets ALWAYS BULLSHIT with this lot on their lefty agenda spin

[@davidsuber8756]

Spot on, Gideon!

[@danielbtwd]

The other reason that there was so much interest in this region is the high quality diamonds. As long as there is instability they remain cheap. Ideologies are rarely the sole reason for conflict. Ironic that at one point Cuban conscripts were guarding American oil installations and at the same time the American government were funding Unita and South Africa, who were constantly trying to blow them up. I fought with 32 battalion in the late eighties. Brave soldiers who were betrayed by their leaders. However generally as far as the Afrikaaner mentality is concerned gratitude and appreciation isn't part of their repertoire, especially if you are not one of them.

[@tecumsehcristero]

Is there any disgraceful thing the ANC won't do?

[@rogernam2092]

A.N.C Bunch of Thugs and Thief’s ...look at S.A. today..

[@paulhughes946]

This woman would benefit from a few morals. If that’s too tricky for her, maybe just try objectivity, integrity and professionalism.

[@vleis2543]

Why so much false information. I have great respect for these men. Salute.

[@oniauri3214]

Why? I inderstand they fought communists in their home country of angola, but they also shot and killed south africans under the guidance of the aprtheid government.

[@franssisita5143]

32, Were good men fighting to protect and keep every South African safe!! Pitty it was all in vain!

[@JimmyCrackCorn_]

​​@@oniauri3214He's congratulating them for allowing them to be utilized for the slaughter of their own people!!

[@griffonsa]

Bom Dia Para, We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; for whoever has shed his blood with me shall be my brother. Someday, somewhere we will meet again, because we will always be, BROTHERS TO THE END! I salute you my old friends, I miss you, and think of you and those who paid the ultimate price daily...

[@flyguyinmotion]

These people were a stabilizing force in Africa. Confronting communist insurgents and maintaining order. These are good people and deserve respect.

[@curtisthomas2670]

British author Frederick Forsythe (Day of the Jackal) participated in planning, outfitting and organizing a mercenary manned coup to overthrow the government of Equatorial Guinea ( covertly on behalf of the UK, with the UK version of "plausible deniability"). The plot was uncovered by Spanish authorities and a ship carrying the group to Africa was seized around Spain. Forsythe later wrote a novel, The Dogs of War, about a successful coup in a fictional African nation very similar to Equatorial Guinea. About 3/4 of the story goes into intricate details on staging a coup, from hiring mercs, buying arms illegally and hiding their intended use and destination, buying gear including Zodiac speedboats, getting a ship for transport etc.It basically served as a manual on coups. My point in all this is that the coup plot mentioned here involving Mark Thatcher against Equatorial Guinea was almost identical in details to the one planned by Forsythe, and may have been an attempt by the UK to rehash the old plan. 😁

[@johanvanwinkel8590]

32 battalion! South Africa salute you. The best.

[@saffa321]

F*** you and your apartheid army that fought for white supremacy, colinialism and capitalism.

[@xekul]

the 32 battalion were mostly angolans recruited by the s. african gov (see 2:30) - and they are condemned for fighting against their "african brothers" but today there are ugandan and ethiopian troops fighting for the AU (with chinese financial support) in somalia and no one is condemning them (except for the muslim world who want somalia to be like afghanistan under the taliban). but 32 battalion had white officers (see 2:41) so they must be bad guys. what a crock of liberal hypocrisy.

[@oniauri3214]

AU is the african union, so why would african soldiers fighting extremism in another african country be stigmatized? 32 battalion isnt considred bad because they had white officers. Theyre considered bad because they fought for the Apartheid government of South Africa. Even the USA avoided south africa because of its Overt institutionalized racism. Its the reason South Africa developed nukes. The world condemned SA for its apartheid system and they felt they wouldnt be helped if the countries around them attacked. Then they literaaly dismantled the entire nuclear weapons program tpwards the end of apartheid because they didnt believe black people can oversee the awesome responsibility of maintaining nuclear bombs. Dont try to rewrite history. Its like those southern apologists that claim the American Civil War wasnt about slavery even though the entire constitution of the Confederacy was about protecting the instituion of slavery for the white man.

[@MrPotatoesLatkie]

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss! That anyone lets a government decide where people can live is an outrage.

[@johnritchie4801]

You could be a little jaundiced in your portrayed These men fought the communist in their own Country Angola They were not defending Apartheid

[@dave7931gnr]

@Rude Boy 77 and what is your vantage point that you know so much better than the soldiers themselves? You know that they had been fighting Portuguese colonialism and then the Marxist takeover in Angola long before they met a South African?

[@garethaustin3137]

The unfortunate paradox of the bush war was that if you joined the South Africans in fighting against Communism, then you were also protecting Apartheid. It's a bit like being asked, 'Would you fight for Hitler or for Stalin?'

[@johnritchie4801]

Rude Boy 77 Never let it be said that you allow raw ignorance prevent you from making even more ignorant comments

[@redmatters9318]

John Ritchie. Yes mate...pull the other one. They were basically propping up APARTHEID. Forget about your communist bogey. GDAY MATE.

[@saffa321]

Shut up you apartheid bastard

[@johnburton65]

32 Bat cleaned house. We need them again

[@hallodanel1456]

These soldiers were the best fighters, and good people, they were under strict command and not barbarians like the journalist is making it out to be.

[@PierreWheeler]

So much respect for these guys, my heart really goes out to them, wish I had the finances to help them

[@onagabs1247]

Yeah, good thing about them is they'll di anything for money. They now can use their military experience to attack farms and survive the only way they know how. The apartheid leaders were really shortsighted eh

[@ubejhane1384]

Forget the shooting. What about necklacing

[@robertwhitelegge6000]

Media miss information, typical ANC, hats off to 32. Good people.

[@jimbobjones3391]

The losing side?

[@zipt5]

Every one.

[@chica476]

I am an atheist, but I mean no hyperbole when i say. God save these people.

[@AxilRod72]

I fought with 32 bat. Don't run them down. They are all good folk who just want to live Some faces I see here I know. God bless you all 32 men

[@tylersmith3139]

You're a sellout who helped to oppress his own people.

[@jamescraigtaylor]

32 was a force of incredible efficiency and they were not mercenaries, they were a battalion within the ranks of an internationally recognized army following orders that, being black, they had no option but to follow. No soldier deserves what happened to then. The treatment they have received disgusts me and regardless of how distasteful their actions are to me, I sympathize with them. The world has forgotten that MK, the MPLA, SWAPO etc were doing the same or worse and that is historical fact.

[@bassinakanuku111]

Ah these are the same mercenaries who worked for Executive Outcomes...always fighting for money..not pride or homeland..sad and awkward situation. guess Angola don't want them back. Maybe Afriforum or is it afroforum? The afrikaner propaganda machine could represent them in this case for the land!

[@redmatters9318]

Bassi Ore Ao. Well put mate G'day from Australia.

[@arthurmomsen910]

GOD BLESS THE BUFFALO SOLDIERS YOU THE BEST.YOULL ALWAYS BE IN MY HEART FROM A SOUTH AFRICA WHITEMAN I'LL BE TO BE YOUR BROTHER

[@garethaustin3137]

Hmm, sounds like both of you need another drink.

[@aetechllc]

@warnedbigbear These soldiers were the best of the best. They deserve nothing but respect.

[@Simba5124]

32 BATTALION WERE HEROES AND THOSE GUYS WILL NEVER BE FORGOT XXX

[@justinhall7489]

Gentlemen who had honour and respect

[@quintonhorak7036]

Correction: they were brave black patriots who fought against radical communist forces, it was never against blacks in general...

[@robertmitchell8630]

Hitlier nazi regime fought the communist Why did western powers fight Hitler and sided with stalin ?

[@1anre]

Wasn't this the same '32 Battalion' Leonardo Di Caprio said he was a part of in the Blood Diamond film?

[@GideonBreedt]

Best guys ever. I Salyut u guys. And your families. No fear.

[@warnedbigbear]

i agree with scorpio. i served along side these soldiers in swa and they were the good guys. the anc hated them with a passion because the 32 guys would not take the ancs shit. if i could turn back time i would fight again side by side with these guys. viva 32 battaion viva

[@oniauri3214]

Its pretty clear why the ANC feels and felt the way they do about the 32 batallion and its a shame you lack empathy to see the whole picture. Why would they celebrate a company of soldiers from other african nations fighting for the Apartheid government? ANC fought to dismantle the racist government that hated its own black majority, yet here comes some out of town black folk not caring about the racist policies of apartheid and shooting actual south africans .

[@qbacreative]

Thanks for fighting against communism, from Cuban that suffered under the Cuban communism regime and had his father sent to fought in those wars.

[@vdmerwedawid]

I lived in Pomfret until the age of 6. My father is a former 32 Batalion soldier. Pomfret was a great home.

[@04Redeemed]

The ANC crying about atrocities, how ironic!

[@Homoprimatesapiens]

This whole presentation doesent make sense. Very fragmented and lots of disinformation. What is the goal of this video vlip ??

[@Bashaza]

Welcome to the Club This is Africa

[@paulhilzinger1095]

These NFLA (32 Buffalo Bat) guys are incredibly good soldiers. Much respect. It’s unfortunate that they are on the wrong side of history. There was some things said here about them that are not true.

[@andrecloete9789]

My Brothers. For always in my heart. Salute

[@Sunclief]

Yup here we go Zimbabwe all over again.

[@darrondelange5403]

Shame man, why don't you just leave those people alone, leave them alone they haven't broken any laws. Just imagine if they stood up and joined forces and went up against the ANC tight now, the ANC will lose. These guys could literally take over South Africa and be the new government.

[@seanperrings8460]

Hard core boys. Respect

[@hoponasu2471]

Free Rhodesia & down with the ANC !

[@zommellemmoz3999]

32 BTN consisted of portugeuse speaking FNLA who wandered around in southern angola after their esteemed leader in the north ate breakfast whilst SA and the Chinese were giving them artillery support to attack MpLA. On full tummies and no more artillery they crossed the open planes and were desimated. After proper training they assisted SADF to oppose SWAPO who were killing villagers in northen namibia as part fo their " freedom struggle" sponsored by the Soviets and which started after political talks between SA and tribal leaders were underway for handover of power. So..kill the tribal leaders as well. This is the predicament of these people - the fought SWAPO and smacked them well, probably embarrassed Angola, SA new regime dont like them and working for PMC is probably a threat to SA. Botswana mightbdo well tontake them in.?

[@joelbeukes]

Propaganda. Dis maklik om na 1994 die geskiedenis te herskryf. Maar ons wat weet sal nooit vergeet!

[@Bozewani]

die apartheid is die witmeisie

[@garthsreptilecare1295]

It's time to move forward. Clinging to these parts of history will cause nothing but hurt.

[@Randaethyr]

A lot of misinformation and disinformation.

[@xekul]

that sounds a lot like a dictatorship, which is what you have in many african countries - strongman rule. zimbabwe is a perfect example.

[@cockbreath01]

Hey Zimbabwe has gone tits up since you made this comment.

[@MrOlympus777]

they are still fighting in somalia for some british oil company

[@tugadmundo]

i wish I could bring these people to Portugal.

[@makheyi]

The people need to face justice...

[@marclaaq]

easy men....the world is full of injustice, we need to work towards healing not revenge

[@tonyp4357]

32 BAT, you are heroes if anyone reads this and is in SA or near POMFRIET, please say thanks from another grateful ex south african. One who trained with them & worked with them on the Moz side.

[@arkangel8419]

also this was the first time the world saw that a private company could take down a rebel gov. when being outnumbered 10 to 1. this led to the ban on mercinaries in africa mainly because it is a scary thing for the governments of the world especially the smaller ones to know that all it takes is a private company and a few hundred men to take down there countries gov.

[@danielcarrillo4385]

what is that song they sing at 8:24

[@scooby1970jms]

Victors justice, the ANC truth and reconciliation commission settled this, but they seem set to destroy a poor community that is doing no-one any harm. Soldiers are Soldiers, leave the bloody politics out and leave them alone they have a hard enough life

[@dtxu1]

Those people will be honored again. I will not forget them.

[@aunsuman]

So many things going on in my mind after watching this video.. One thing i cannt ignore they were soldiers.. soldiers are never killers.. soldiers are not murders.. yea they were buffalo soldiers but they are soldiers..

[@GroenRizla]

Hey the 32 Bat were briliant. Its such a pitty its always the good men that suffer in the end. I spent some time with a few ex-selou scouts who became big gun-dealers in Africa and I recon these kind of guys never become normal again. Lets just hope they will all stick together when SA has its final battle in a few years time.

[@georgiemartin6236]

Is journeyman pictures bias?

[@wimpievanderwesthuizen4994]

useless anc closing down the town

[@briantrend1812]

anc racist losers cant run a socialist toilet and they hate these fine men , sore losers because 32 battalion fucked them up big time pure and simple. and the left are on the wrong side of history you lying lefty bullshitting media chick

[@randomstuff5869]

Loooll..thy should go home to angola your apartheid gorvement dump them so who must take care of them

[@kenbird9017]

FNLA movement opposed to MPLA and were an irregular army, formed similar to Renamo.

[@viciouslady1340]

So much better before the sun set

[@FerrariDaytona1969]

this is what happens when we, white people, don't stay together......shame on us

[@masterchief377]

Though Mandella had great ideas, he was unable to follow up. If anything, ZA was better under Apartheid. Sorry to say, although it was an evil, it was a necessary evil.

[@ch64621]

That's what I heard from another older south African

[@smokinhabanas]

Another example of the legacy of Neo-colonialism, a feared counter insurgency unit with a terrible reputation at least from the ANC. In Rhodesia at least the RAR was at first integrated in the national army. Mercenary work was the logical choice for these men plenty of demand for their proven expertise!

[@4502Don]

Avance!

[@KalahariSurf]

see that's were you are wrong i am white, and i am not pro racism just anti communism. Just like you claim to have the right to fight for what you believe in so do these guys, that's the cornerstone of democracy and freedom of speech. They saw the evils of communism, which has done more eveil in the world than apartheid did, but saying that it doesn't make apartheid right. I say that merely to show the evil of a totalitarian state. Look what it did to Africa

[@vivicohen199]

Interesting spectrum of comments. Those strong on military insights are a bit disappointing with their reactionary political views. Not all of those who are historically and politically informed seem to quite understand the imperatives confronting bona fide soldiers (NOT militias .... big difference). Some commentators here are "sulky", others considered. 13 years since this documentary was made. Who's learnt what, if at all, in the interim?

[@stevensexton7038]

See what happens when you have biased journalism

[@KalahariSurf]

so you admit apartheid SA had better education than communist mozambique. I'm actually from the UK i spent 12 years in SWA. And if you think i earn £1000 pounds per month ,that's under half the average UK wage, you really are more ignorant than i originally thought. And i really don't understand what you are trying to say "you cant just make things to be political right" wtf?

[@warnedbigbear]

@aetechllc i agree with you one hundred percent. thats why i would alongside them should the need arise.

[@4502Don]

Avancar Brothers! Avancar Os Terriveis!

[@Bozewani]

The past is the past, move on. Leave them alone, Mbeki

[@hermanuushona]

Dogs of the war, fighting on the wrong side against the ANC, Swapo and FAPLA all of a sudden they found themselves in the mess

[@kingofthesouth9027]

32 battalion was a white, black, coloured, Indian . And was lead my special forces. I wish these people would get facts right.

[@astoc3330]

Where is Britain and the Dutch and Portuguese who these people actually worked for.. Anglo America and various others.. Shame.. Poor guys.. I hope they get help!!

[@bauzblak2957]

Forgot of course, that's what they get for betraying their own

[@randomstuff5869]

Now anc has to baby sit the them thy cn not even go back to thier country angola thy will be dead there within days

[@reinhard124]

Very good soldiers AKA "The Terribles Ones" between their enemies. They never were defeated.

[@osli73]

Of course you have to feel sorry for them, they and their families are being collectively punished for something their (former) government enlisted them to do. As for the comments about "betraying their own people". That's a racis view. Why should they have more in common with Zulus than Boers? Becuase they are black?

[@chica476]

Why is that chap @ 7:41 wearing an MPLA logo on his shirt? I thought they were fighting against them.

[@SimplyRed66]

Trophy...

[@inferno0020]

I think that ANC should treat them well because they are the Black soldiers who can really fight.

[@jamescokebarnes6276]

32 BN was the Real Madrid of war.

[@robertschweppie5256]

LOSING SIDE HAHAH BULL SHIT

[@TheMightymongoose]

@jaxpower1 Apartheid is what lead to this. Cause and effect, The Whites were only buying time by using Apartheid. This wasn't colonial American where most Natives died out from disease. The Black Natives always had the upper hand in numbers.

[@yannick245]

Instead of creating Bantustans/Homelands for blacks they should have built a homeland for whites, so they had a refuge after 1994. Now, since they lost power that option is gone.

[@robertschweppenhauser9891]

They were great soldiers nothing came close to there ability to fight.

[@robertschweppenhauser9891]

One of the best soldiers 😅... By the way we did loose the war ,it was disided to stop the war get the story right .....

[@Thebudokid87]

Losing side? Looking at the body count they were the winning side by FAR

[@Thebudokid87]

@KD Media I hear what you say...But in all SMALL wars success is measured in term of bodycount. There are no stand up battles involving large contingents of forces. Battles are fought between patrols and guerilla groups. These contacts are short and usually very deadly. This very uneven struggle produced its own grimm measure of these statistics. Militarily South-Africa was never defeated

[@GroenRizla]

Mercenary town because they are feared for what they are capable of doing. In the mid 1990`s about 100 Executive Outcome operatives cleaned up the RUF in Sierra Leone in less than 3 months & stabilized the country. E. O. was forced to leave due to international pressure. A total of 17 000 UN blue berets could not do what this 100 E.Os did. These E.O. operators were Ex 3 2 battalion.

[@one1byke]

@Simba5124 No, 32nd will never be forgotten. Good Riddance!

[@beastbytheway]

@jaxpower1 for who?

[@KalahariSurf]

well if all your family were fighting in a war, then bad luck. people get killed in wars. And i ask you how many civilians were killed by the ANC and SWAPO? McBride bombed a student Bar, i see you never condemn such acts. Typical double standards

[@inferno0020]

ANC should have kept those soldiers and used them to train a better military muscle. They should stop relying on "people's power" Look at South Africa now. ANC cannot even contain gangs when they started attacking immigrants, and that is "people's power". Sometimes military is very important

[@redmatters9318]

Nice report. She was very fair and balanced. Let's have some more truths soon. Cheers mate and G'DAY from Australia .

[@ruiterinswart5204]

Word of advice to the ANC...dont #### with 32. Use it...dont use it :D

[@redmatters9318]

Ruiter in Swart. Ooooohh we're shivering with fear for this big man clad in black...perhaps he is the ghost rider in the Sky..oh yeah. Well done to the ANC . Cheers mate and G'DAY from Australia .

[@oblark]

@compubitz It wasn't an Apartheid war in the way that civil war wasn't to end slavery. The Institution in place at the time supported apartheid (which you've got to admit isn't right under any circumstance), and the populace got tired of it. the rebels overran the police and required military support. battalion 32 comes in, not mercenaries just soldiers following orders.. but for the wrong side. that about it? i still don't support em, either way.

[@I-_-I_SB]

Why alive they are