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8 ай бұрын

Several elements and characters in "The Incredible World of Horace Ford" worked to a pretty good effect, but is it worth a recommendation? Find out now as Walter continues his deep dive into The Twilight Zone.
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"The Incredible World of Horace Ford" is an episode in season four of the American television anthology series The Twilight Zone. In this episode, a toy designer fixated on his childhood days finds that he travels back to those times whenever he revisits his old neighborhood.
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@ladyalmathea7610
@ladyalmathea7610 8 ай бұрын
I think Master Oogway said it best: "The past is history, the future's a mystery, but today is a gift. That's why it's called the present."
@trinaq
@trinaq 8 ай бұрын
Preach, I love that quote, it's my new philosophy!
@trinaq
@trinaq 8 ай бұрын
One thing that I noticed upon a rewatch was that Horace's mother couldn't understand why he was so nostalgic for his childhood. Later, she's horrified when she learns that he's been fired, since he was supporting her and Laura financially. It makes sense when we learn that when Horace was a child, they'd been living in a poor area, and she didn't want to have to relive those impoverished times.
@melissacooper8724
@melissacooper8724 8 ай бұрын
I probably bet that she was a single mother trying to raise her son alone. They never mentioned about his father. Maybe Horace didn't truly understand about how poor they were.
@geoffreyfyfe2248
@geoffreyfyfe2248 8 ай бұрын
She even mentions after finding out Horace lost his job something like, "I'm 62 years old, when does it get easier?" She's clearly a woman who's been through some hard times and thinks she's due some good times in response and instead she gets hit with this reminder of her past. No wonder she comes off as self-centered in that scene.
@greggpeterson2443
@greggpeterson2443 8 ай бұрын
you know i wonder if those kids were ghosts who died before they got a chance to grow up and felt jelouse cause Horace got that and got married cause he doesn't mention them as adults just when there kids and his mom maybe knew they died so that's another reason she hated him thinking of the past so much like you and your son made it out but you know others didn't
@jenniferschillig3768
@jenniferschillig3768 8 ай бұрын
@@melissacooper8724 Horace does mention his dad horsing around with him, but since this was during the Depression, it's quite possible he had trouble finding work. (Which might also be why he didn't invite his pals to his party--maybe they couldn't afford more than one or two guests.) But it is a strong hint to what Horace's family life must have been life--while he was running around playing in the streets (though maybe with not so many good times as he remembered), his parents were living in a slum during a tough economic time and probably wondering where their next meal was coming from.
@Omar-wq9dz
@Omar-wq9dz 8 ай бұрын
This episode shows how some people tend to think of their childhood by only focusing on the good parts and thinking it was great back then, but not think about the bad parts
@melissacooper8724
@melissacooper8724 8 ай бұрын
In other words, Horace was looking at his childhood through rose colored glasses.
@trinaq
@trinaq 8 ай бұрын
Agreed, poor Horace, I hope that his adulthood was better than his childhood.
@geoffreyfyfe2248
@geoffreyfyfe2248 8 ай бұрын
I mean, that's literally what nostalgia is; remembering the good stuff while conveniently forgetting the bad.
@daytimesky
@daytimesky 8 ай бұрын
Criticizing nostalgia seems to be a common theme with this show. Personally, I'm pretty critical of nostalgia myself. I'm 42, and I'm frequently horrified by the values of the past, and I also find media from the past mostly unwatchable and unplayable.
@louisduarte8763
@louisduarte8763 8 ай бұрын
@@geoffreyfyfe2248 Because who wants to look back on the bad parts? Sometimes they flashback to me on their own.
@geoffreyfyfe2248
@geoffreyfyfe2248 8 ай бұрын
Interesting how this and "Of Late I Think of Cliffordville" are back to back episodes about how nostalgia betrays us.
@Oppeldeldoc1
@Oppeldeldoc1 8 ай бұрын
I think that "The Trouble With Templeton" handles that especially well, because it never tells you whether the character is right or wrong. Things are SET UP to disillusion him, so you don't know one way or the other.
@lucinae8510
@lucinae8510 8 ай бұрын
This was all started by Walking Distance, which is why it's my favourite episode.
@trinaq
@trinaq 8 ай бұрын
This episode is the perfect example of how viewing the past through nostalgic rose coloured glasses can be harmful. We typically recall the great times, conveniently forgetting the not so good times.
@geoffreyfyfe2248
@geoffreyfyfe2248 8 ай бұрын
The moral of the episode is that nostalgia is fine, but don't obsess over it to the extent that it overwhelms your life in the here and now. Also, it's about how nostalgia inevitably betrays you, because by its nature what actually occurred is never what your rosy memories are.
@melissacooper8724
@melissacooper8724 8 ай бұрын
Just like how Feathersmith in the last episode had memories about this young lady that he courted in his youth was beautiful and charming. In reality, she was homely, obnoxious, and couldn't carry a tune in a bucket! No wonder he didn't marry her! 😂
@shainewhite2781
@shainewhite2781 8 ай бұрын
I think this is a great episode as Horace Ford learns that it's okay to be grown up and its ok to be nostalgic and never forget about the good times you had when you were a child.
@geoffreyfyfe2248
@geoffreyfyfe2248 8 ай бұрын
It's quite similar to "Walking Distance", except that Horace didn't have as good a childhood as Martin Sloane did. For one, Martin had much better parents.
@melissacooper8724
@melissacooper8724 8 ай бұрын
Like Martin, Horace had to stop looking behind him and start looking ahead.
@claymccoy
@claymccoy 8 ай бұрын
This episode seems more relevant than ever. Everybody is really in to nostalgia right now and wishes they can go back. They don't seem to remember the bad stuff "back then".
@SamtheBravesFan
@SamtheBravesFan 8 ай бұрын
People once read the paper and bemoaned the state of the world. Then they read the paper and watched the news and bemoaned the state of the world. Now they watch the news and surf the net and bemoan the state of the world. Heck, I've seen quotes from a 19th century clergyman that sound like he could be talking about today. "Bad stuff" just seems to be part of the human condition.
@als3022
@als3022 8 ай бұрын
Personally, no life was pretty terrible. As a culture? Yeah we habe devolved. Call it the old lamenting the young, but that doesn't mean it's wrong.
@EnglishAaron
@EnglishAaron 8 ай бұрын
I'll let you know that with the good and bad I still would wish to become as I was before. I wish I had just gotten actual help or support to figure out what I was missing that I was facing rejection all I could think of was just not having money as my folks refused to allow me to apply for jobs as a sixteen year old which parents and the school system control that pretty well. I was able to do better in school until I was told that I still wouldn't be able to get a job as it was deemed unnecessary for me to do so and they feared me falling behind... which happened anyway when I stopped caring due to failing to address the lack I thought would fix the situation I was in.
@jbcatz5
@jbcatz5 8 ай бұрын
Sabrina has an episode with this moral, when she’s enjoying being in the 60’s until sexism rears its ugly head and the same college that was interested in her back in the present now dismisses her because she’s a girl. Every period has its good and bad points, even now but we selectively remember our comfort zones.
@jasonavery8247
@jasonavery8247 8 ай бұрын
I like to believe this was a recent personality for him bordering on mid life crisis do to age and recapture of youth through reminiscence while he designs toys. Walking this street is like the Zone having him confront all of the bad he started repressing.
@michaelwhitehead6594
@michaelwhitehead6594 8 ай бұрын
My take is they are all Ghosts, summoned by Horace's nostalgic editing of the past. They can't move on until Horace moves on. The self aware boy Ghost is the conduit to enable all parties to finally move on. Horace to accept the reality that life wasn't always as good as he remembers it, and the Ghosts able to be set free thereafter to move on.
@ChakatStripedfur
@ChakatStripedfur 8 ай бұрын
That would've been a good twist, had there actually _been_ one. The way it is now, the people watching it know exactly what's going on and how it's going to end. There's no twist. A twist is something _different_ than what you've been shown so far. Like what you wrote in your post. The episode sets them up as merely memories and nostalgia, with Horace finally remembering what his past was actually like and moving on. To have everyone there be ghosts, perpetually trapped in time because of his incredibly strong nostalgia, only to finally be able to move on at the end, is a good twist. Maybe have them be aliens or something that feed on nostalgic memories, and the only way to defeat them would be to finally move on. But the way the episode was written, there was no twist to it. I've noticed that in a lot of Twilight Zone episodes. Not every TZ episode needed to have a twist, which makes it so damn annoying that Walter keeps adding 'The Twist' at the end of every TtZ ep he does, when there was no twist in the episode itself.
@jjmwwe
@jjmwwe 8 ай бұрын
“We’re gonna marbalize ya! (Takes a bite of the apple)” is right up there with “She’s not a robit!” as some of the best underrated lines of the Twilight Zone
@antonmassopust568
@antonmassopust568 8 ай бұрын
The Twilight Zone often shows you that the past is not as great as we would hope that would be and you're absolutely right I wouldn't even know that that eventually becomes Commissioner Gordon
@Stroheim333
@Stroheim333 8 ай бұрын
Soooo many characters in modern Hollywood "comedies" are played like Horace in this episode. By Adam Sandler. Will Ferrell. Jack Black. And thousands more.
@JackKirbyFan
@JackKirbyFan 8 ай бұрын
I remember the first time I saw it. The ending broke my heart. I understood his anger now and his rage. Never learning to process his past. Tough watch. I think it might have been better as a half hour format.
@melissacooper8724
@melissacooper8724 8 ай бұрын
It's a shame that therapy wasn't common back in the 1960s. Horace definitely needed it to deal with his childhood.
@bigneasy2106
@bigneasy2106 8 ай бұрын
Pat Hingle’s greatest role is in Maximum Overdrive 😂
@geoffreyfyfe2248
@geoffreyfyfe2248 8 ай бұрын
Does he have any other roles where he wields a bazooka?
@jambgsu07
@jambgsu07 5 ай бұрын
Beat me to it! LOL.
@thoughtfuldevil6069
@thoughtfuldevil6069 8 ай бұрын
I saw this in Middle School and it's one of my favorites. I was always surrounded by adults who told me being a kid was great and life would only get worse. This episode was a greta reminder that people have always said things as stupid as that, and they have always been wrong.
@SamtheBravesFan
@SamtheBravesFan 8 ай бұрын
The reason life gets "worse" is that you have to take on more responsibility for living. When you're a kid, you usually don't have to worry about that stuff.
@ariadnefrolich7243
@ariadnefrolich7243 8 ай бұрын
The thing is, there are parts of childhood that are amazing and parts that are awful. Adulthood is the same, both good and bad.
@shenloken2
@shenloken2 8 ай бұрын
I honestly didn’t mind this episode. Sure Horace is obnoxious…but it’s not too far-fetched how a lot of adults act in the current world either. Heck half of our elected officials act this way towards their own staff. The ending I think actually has a very relevant moral: that things weren’t as rosy during your childhood as we remember it and we only hold onto memories of the good times. If we relived all the bad times during our childhood I believe we too would rather carry on as adults. Sometimes we just gotta accept it and continue living life while we still can.
@wstine79
@wstine79 8 ай бұрын
So in this episode, Commissioner Gordon is the toy maker.
@redorkulatedproductions929
@redorkulatedproductions929 8 ай бұрын
intentional or not, your delivery of "wife and mother" had me rolling bc context wise i thought you were referring to them as the same person 😂
@trinaq
@trinaq 8 ай бұрын
I liked that the episode had a happier ending compared to the Studio One version, wherein Horace stays trapped in his miserable childhood forever. Also, Nan Martin, who played Laura, was the nasty Mrs Claxton on an episode of "The Golden Girls."
@melissacooper8724
@melissacooper8724 8 ай бұрын
I'll never forget that episode of The Golden Girls! Frieda Claxton was so despised by everyone that even the dog peed on her ashes! 😂
@GirlMargaret
@GirlMargaret Ай бұрын
That's my favorite episode of The Golden Girls! I did not realize that Mrs. Claxton was also Mrs. Ford, wow!
@alexconn7473
@alexconn7473 8 ай бұрын
I think that though it is possible Horace may have insulted his boss in the past I believe that before the episode it was done in a joking manner like he never did it with a mean spirit and merely did so to give his boss and coworkers a good laugh or two
@bohgirl11
@bohgirl11 8 ай бұрын
This episode reminds me of when I was in 10th grade and thought about returning to my old school because the school I had transferred to was making me miserable. I started thinking about the good times in my old school and it made me want to go back. Then I had an interaction with one of the girls that made me want to leave my old school and it brought up a wave of bad memories including the feelings of wanting to leave, and suddenly the school I was in didn't seem so bad anymore. It had its perks too and it made me see them better.
@gothicMCRgirl
@gothicMCRgirl 8 ай бұрын
I had something similar happen to me, but it was always other people saying, “oh you’re gonna miss school once you’re an adult, you won’t enjoy life the same way”. And this sentiment is always from people who were the “cool” kids or at least the kids that were normal enough to blend in and not be targeted. I HATED school, and I was never shy about telling people that. And when they ask me why I hated school, how could I, everything was so simple in school… I always retaliate with, “have you ever needed to walk with scissors in your hands to and from classrooms because you were terrified people would touch you, push you or pull your hair in the hallways?” They never have a response. It’s EXHAUSTING being terrified for your well-being every single day, with no way out and no one to defend you. At least as an adult, I can choose to walk away from places. I couldn’t as a child, and I grow sick of people minimizing mine or other’s people bad experiences with school.
@jonleibow3604
@jonleibow3604 8 ай бұрын
@@gothicMCRgirl In a way I feel sorry for people who say school was the best time of their life. That means their whole adult life is downhill from that point.
@melissacooper8724
@melissacooper8724 8 ай бұрын
​@gothicMCRgirl My high school teachers had said that to me before I graduated! I don't miss school. I've had both good times and bad times there, but I don't dwell on it. I see that as a chapter in my life, nothing more.
@mikeoyler2983
@mikeoyler2983 8 ай бұрын
This reminds me of the character Pete Campbell on Mad Men because it takes place during the same years. In the first season he was a teenager trapped in the body of a 24 year old. Vincent Karheiser did a good job playing that role.
@thekeyofimagination
@thekeyofimagination 7 ай бұрын
It took some years, but this episode grew on me. Holy crap, I never made the Commissioner Gordon connection. Nicely done.
@TramiNguyen-oi3kp
@TramiNguyen-oi3kp 8 ай бұрын
I love this The Twilight Zone episode!
@brianfuller757
@brianfuller757 8 ай бұрын
This episode is an okay try at a great premise. We shouldn't edit our past or dwell on it. We need to learn and go on.
@antoniogonzales1976
@antoniogonzales1976 8 ай бұрын
I think Hingle's performance would have been better if he had delivered the lines like an adult remembering what it's like to be a kid, rather than the almost brain damaged effect that he was portraying, but I think he was trying to play it like a child trapped in an adult's body, and it simply didn't work.
@Sunrie
@Sunrie 8 ай бұрын
We're seeing a man in the midst of a mental breakdown, that's what's going on
@George-kz5hb
@George-kz5hb 8 ай бұрын
Man they really have to returned to this story well a few times!
@KyleRobots
@KyleRobots 8 ай бұрын
I was gonna say it was somewhere between Art Carney and Jerry Lewis, Hingle doesn't necessarily pull off the same energy they had, and Lewis could get pretty annoying with it too. Hingle at least comes across almost like the bookworm in Time Enough at Last, addicted to something and somewhat helpless, and I do like the idea of him getting to learn from his mistakes. The kid coming off as both trying to help Pat and beat on him almost seems like Finnegan from Star Trek, when dreamed up he just tried to fight Kirk the whole time. Of course, Kirk is mature and an adult so when he shows up, Kirk is immediately like 'Oh god, not this guy...'
@mattsmoviemagic8123
@mattsmoviemagic8123 8 ай бұрын
This totally relates to me and my high school experience.
@melissacooper8724
@melissacooper8724 8 ай бұрын
Did you ever look back on your high school days through rose colored glasses?
@mattsmoviemagic8123
@mattsmoviemagic8123 8 ай бұрын
@@melissacooper8724 Only The Positive Parts I'd Like To Remember. *Because In Truth I Hated High School So, So Much.
@user-cn6cw6os3s
@user-cn6cw6os3s 2 ай бұрын
"We're gonna marbalize ya" This kid deserves an emmy for that one line! Face it, we all knew one of these guys in our childhood!
@kelleyceccato7025
@kelleyceccato7025 8 ай бұрын
Also a potentially fun subject for study: Twilight Zone BOSSES. I rewatched "A Stop at Willoughby" just a couple of days ago, and that boss is so infuriating that I can't help wishing poor, put-upon Gart would pull a Mr. Incredible and grab the man by the neck and hurl him through seven walls. Then, in sharp contrast, we have this boss, who honestly does everything he can to support his employee before he's had enough at last. A kind of bridge figure between these two polar opposites is the boss in "Miniature," which I also rewatched in the past couple of weeks. (Twilight Tober-Zone is great for reminding me of which episodes I need to rewatch.) Robert Duvall's Charlie is much more sympathetic than Horace, but his boss at least TRIES to understand him before letting him go for not being a "team player." That's a B.S. reason for firing someone, IMO, but it's interesting to me that Charlie doesn't blame the man and even defends him against his mother.
@melissacooper8724
@melissacooper8724 8 ай бұрын
I agree that Horace is loud and obnoxious! That was because he never truly grew up despite physically being an adult. I believe his behavior was worse is because he was approaching middle age. This was the main reason why he was obsessed about remembering his childhood through rose colored glasses. The only thing I don't understand is why didn't he invite those boys to his birthday party years ago? Was that his mother's idea? Or did he have anything against them?
@geoffreyfyfe2248
@geoffreyfyfe2248 8 ай бұрын
He tells the kids that he "couldn't" invite them, so maybe his mother couldn't afford a big party for him. Or she thought those friends of his were bad apples. Either way, it sounds like Mom had a hand in the decision. Horace is very much a manchild, which is exactly how Pat Hingle said he approached the character.
@DasKame
@DasKame 8 ай бұрын
Respect to the Casting: "Kid Horace" Looks Uncanny like the Spitting Image of the Adult Actor
@bigbossman2810
@bigbossman2810 8 ай бұрын
People can say what they want about yesterday not being as good as we remember it. There's some truth to that. However, nostalgia is the best addictive drug ever made.
@weareallbronies9031
@weareallbronies9031 8 ай бұрын
Only 7 days left of twilight tober zone
@Brian-uy2tj
@Brian-uy2tj 3 ай бұрын
One of my favorite roles that Pat Hingle played was in an episode of M.A.S.H. where Col Potter gets help from Hingle to pull off an elaborate practical joke after a rash of practical jokes around the camp.
@fredrikcarlstedt393
@fredrikcarlstedt393 8 ай бұрын
And now the Zone gives us Commisioner James Gordon !
@brendakrieger7000
@brendakrieger7000 8 ай бұрын
I just love this series👻
@keiththompson9435
@keiththompson9435 8 ай бұрын
Nostalgia is kinda bittersweet.
@MarioCaez
@MarioCaez 8 ай бұрын
Horace looks like that manager that will make you work for 9 hours but the clock in for 8.
@jamesdrynan
@jamesdrynan Ай бұрын
For some reason, I always remember the kid at the door saying, " He dropped this. " I saw the episode once when it first aired.
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 8 ай бұрын
Thanks For all these videos!😊😊😊😊❤❤❤
@Alejandroigarabide
@Alejandroigarabide 8 ай бұрын
Pat Hingle was always involved with creepy characters who turn their whole body around instead of turning their heads.
@WebMonkey741
@WebMonkey741 8 ай бұрын
6:40 "What employer would allow that behaviour?" Clearly you've never worked in video games, or Hollywood. 😂
@ChannelAwesome
@ChannelAwesome 8 ай бұрын
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@trinaq
@trinaq 8 ай бұрын
I loved it, it's a cautionary tale against romanticising the past, and not to let the past define your present and future.
@melissacooper8724
@melissacooper8724 8 ай бұрын
A lot of us can relate to Horace Ford. I think the reason that most of us look back on our childhood with fondness is because we see it as a time when we didn't have to worry about paying bills and supporting a family. As long as you don't dwell on it to the point that it affects your job and family.
@launchpad1412
@launchpad1412 8 ай бұрын
That guy was on an episode of Dawson's Creek!
@TheJennyfish
@TheJennyfish 2 ай бұрын
Someone, probably Horace Ford at the end: "I think I had a bad childhood"
@maxhunke5166
@maxhunke5166 8 ай бұрын
This is a rare moment where instead of the story being overly drawn out and dumb, the acting is over ally drown out and annoying. Just what I needed with an HOUR LONG EPISODE.
@animechic420
@animechic420 8 ай бұрын
Ahh. My favorite hour episode tomorrow. 😊
@connorthompson8376
@connorthompson8376 8 ай бұрын
I’d love to see a themed month of reviews for the 80s series.
@labyfan1313
@labyfan1313 Ай бұрын
I agree with every point you made on this one. Maybe if it was a half hour episode it would be easier to take that performance without getting so annoyed.
@L337M4573RK
@L337M4573RK 8 ай бұрын
Hermie is an allusion to Oberon (the King of the Fairies) in this episode. If you don't know the reference, look it up.
@michaelme1548
@michaelme1548 28 күн бұрын
I remember enjoying this episode. It has been a long time since I’ve seen it. Maybe my memory is playing tricks on me.
@gametheorymedia
@gametheorymedia 8 ай бұрын
YIKES, but this protagonist's performance, here; it's like if someone crammed all the worst aspects of Jim Carrey, Tom Greene and Chris Farley into a malfunctioning Transporter and decided to just 'wing it' with the controls o_0 (LOVE these T-TZ vids, however--basically, among the very few valid remaining reasons for someone to still check out Channel 'Awesome' content; keep up the good work!)
@smiththeinspiringanimator7042
@smiththeinspiringanimator7042 8 ай бұрын
Awesome and cool! ^_^
@esteemedmortal5917
@esteemedmortal5917 8 ай бұрын
It makes one vulnerable when you start categorizing your life into ‘good times’ and ‘bad times’ as absolutes; some periods of our lives are better or worse but usually, it’s a mix of both. Even when I think back to the ‘good ole days’ of the 90s, I also don’t want to go back to being a kid. Well, most of the time. I do get a little envious around Halloween 🤣
@miroslavtomic7038
@miroslavtomic7038 24 күн бұрын
The poster for O'Shaugnessy's Boys with mention of star Jackie Cooper can be seen in this episode. In Season 5, Cooper starred in episode Caesar and Me.
@claytonrios1
@claytonrios1 8 ай бұрын
Hot Dogs for 3 cents? What a deal!
@miroslavtomic7038
@miroslavtomic7038 24 күн бұрын
Nan Martin made TZ history in 1985 when she became the first person from original series to appear in an episode of 80s incarnation.
@yashamaga1319
@yashamaga1319 2 ай бұрын
I wish there was a review playlist like this for The Munsters and/or Dragnet
@miroslavtomic7038
@miroslavtomic7038 7 ай бұрын
Randolph St. was previously mentioned in A Game of Pool, where it is stated that Jack Klugman's character was the best pool player on the Randolph St.
@thEannoyingE
@thEannoyingE 5 ай бұрын
It’s funny, the character of Horace’s boss was played by the same actor that played Marion Crane’s boss in Psycho, just 4 years earlier.
@ninjabunnywholivesinsideaw8216
@ninjabunnywholivesinsideaw8216 8 ай бұрын
Hey Channel Awesome! Will we be getting a review of Haunted Mansion (2033) this Nostalgia-ween? I would love to see that!
@greggpeterson2443
@greggpeterson2443 8 ай бұрын
the very first time i saw this episode my tv cut out when his wife see's him as a kid and goes to the wall to gather herself i thought they beat him to death
@anubusx
@anubusx 8 ай бұрын
He should've applied at Wayne Enterprises.
@HarvestStore
@HarvestStore 8 ай бұрын
Great video.
@julieporter7805
@julieporter7805 7 ай бұрын
People get so nostalgic for their childhood that they forget the bad things: bullying, unhappy home lives, fighting, abusive, or neglectful parents, peer pressure, cliques.
@jambgsu07
@jambgsu07 5 ай бұрын
All I hear is Pat Hingle yelling at Bubba! LOL.
@NWAWskeptic
@NWAWskeptic Ай бұрын
WE….MADE…..YOU!
@jeffreyberkin-ez3uh
@jeffreyberkin-ez3uh Күн бұрын
My number four episode. Not well rated by TZ viewers, but I liked the loving support the wife gave her troubled husband. I thought the boss was tolerant as well. I wish a better choice had been made for the mother. It was amazing how both Hingle and Martin (who had worked together before) were both drawn into the nightmare, but I'm glad the original ending was changed 😊
@philarmstrong3765
@philarmstrong3765 8 ай бұрын
I'm not saying you're wrong and I've learned a LOT but, wow, you do grade pretty hard. For me, even a legit criticism of a TZ is like someone telling me my dog is ugly. Yes, he's kinda ugly, Still love 'im.
@jordanhunter3375
@jordanhunter3375 8 ай бұрын
'Mobilize ya'? You going to move his house or something?
@jlev1028
@jlev1028 8 ай бұрын
Mob-ilize. As in gang up like a mob.
@user-cn6cw6os3s
@user-cn6cw6os3s 2 ай бұрын
Everyone hates this episode, as did I when it first aired. Now, 60 years later, it has become one of my favorites! Anyone who has ever had to deal with a friend or family member descending into mental illness can appreciate Hingle's performance as not only accurate but brilliant! Well portrayed also are the emotions and desparation of the people around him. If Horace is ever to be cured he has to be confronted with his true past. Here, Hermie emerges as his guide. Ghost or illusion? It takes three confrontations to get Horace to follow him and go all the way to witness and experience his true childhood trauma. I'll throw out my own theory. I think all the kids have returned to Randolph Street. Horace, to confront his trauma and the others to confront their guilt over admimistering a brutal beatdown of a friend over a minor transgression which they have tried to rationalize and bury over the years. Maybe more than one person finally grew up that night. So, Hermie sits atop his lampost and leaves us to interprut his smile, one of mischief or one of relief and satisfaction that his mission is complete.
@jenniferschillig3768
@jenniferschillig3768 8 ай бұрын
I don't see Mrs. Ford's breakdown as proof that she's selfish or a drama queen...I see it as genuine fear of poverty and a hint as to what living in a slum during the Great Depression must have been like for a woman who was trying to raise a family. She says something like "I'm sixty-one! Shouldn't I not have to be afraid anymore by now?" She's TERRIFIED of the thought of having to go back to that kind of life once Horace's income is lost. And it's just that much more foreshadowing that Horace's rose-colored childhood wasn't quite what he remembered it to be.
@Ecl1pse09
@Ecl1pse09 8 ай бұрын
What is it with The Twilight Zonr and their obsession with the childhood nostalgia story
@majinsole8554
@majinsole8554 8 ай бұрын
Being that obnoxiously annoying just sounds like he understood the assignment honestly. ~_~
@LORDVOLCOS
@LORDVOLCOS 8 ай бұрын
Horace probably reminds Walter of the former Channel Awesome affiliates.
@RialVestro
@RialVestro 8 ай бұрын
I've seen similar stories done much better. I didn't really like anything about this. I agree with your opinion that Horace acting like a kid could have been done more subtly to make him a more likable and relatable character. He just comes off as annoying and it doesn't help when he's literally saying he doesn't care about anything when he's called out on his rude behavior.
@miroslavtomic7038
@miroslavtomic7038 7 ай бұрын
Ruth White and Pat Hingle did resemble each other slightly.
@jenniferschillig3768
@jenniferschillig3768 8 ай бұрын
Alfred Molina plays Horace in the radio drama adaptation. I haven't heard it all the way through but maybe he reins it in a bit.
@micshork
@micshork 8 ай бұрын
The guy in the thumbnail looks like Matthew Lillard.
@averageant7173
@averageant7173 8 ай бұрын
Hingle looks like Nick Frost here
@Galantski
@Galantski 8 ай бұрын
While I can't recommend this one either, I don't hate it or even hate Hingle in it, OTT as he is. I'd so far as to rate it middle tier, but towards the bottom of that tier. Another episode this one reminded me of to an extent was "Kick the Can", where you have grown-ups turning into kids, albeit to quite a different effect.
@ViegasSilva
@ViegasSilva 8 ай бұрын
We're gonna mobilize ya 🤣
@meganparrish807
@meganparrish807 8 ай бұрын
Marbilize, like a monument.
@el-kiote
@el-kiote 8 ай бұрын
I'll mobilize YOU! 👊🏿💥
@user-ut8sh8bg5f
@user-ut8sh8bg5f 8 ай бұрын
In the modern world area Horace would be diagnosed with autism.
@thewatcher5271
@thewatcher5271 5 ай бұрын
Nan Martin Also Played Pat Hingle's Wife In The Fugitive - Search In A Windy City.
@multi-voiceentertainment7013
@multi-voiceentertainment7013 8 ай бұрын
Did Hermie sort of resemble Jughead from the Archie comics?
@GeekEire
@GeekEire 8 ай бұрын
This episode could be done now and have a guy talking about cartoons were better in the 80s
@ericjanssen394
@ericjanssen394 8 ай бұрын
This episode is one of the three that made me hate S4 (we've done The New Exhibit, and Passage on the Lady Anne comes later): Maybe its roots as a non-TZ episode, but after an hour of frustratingly distanced non-interaction with the ghosts of his past, he learns his childhood wasn't so rosy to cling to after all--In Walking Distance or The Trouble With Templeton, the message is wistful, but with an INTENTIONALLY obnoxious pest like Ford, it's just more of a well-needed slap in the head.
@519djw6
@519djw6 8 ай бұрын
*When I searched for "The Incredible World of Horace Ford" on the IMDb, I came up with an entirely different cast--including Alan Young (of "Mr. Ed" fame) as the title character. What does on here?*
@milestrombley1466
@milestrombley1466 8 ай бұрын
Horace looks like Jerry Lewis. 🤣
@ManOnHorizon
@ManOnHorizon 8 ай бұрын
Two Jim Gordons in a row. Coincidence?..
@louisduarte8763
@louisduarte8763 8 ай бұрын
Is it possible this guy had some undiagnosed developmental disorder? And some light PTSD?
@melissacooper8724
@melissacooper8724 8 ай бұрын
I'm thinking that he might have autism or is mildly mentally challenged. I remember my husband had a friend who had a mental disability and talked in a loud obnoxious way like Horace.
@mudvalve
@mudvalve 8 ай бұрын
10:21 “a more upbeat ending”??
@jlev1028
@jlev1028 8 ай бұрын
Also, I'm sick of this premise. Why have the following episode to "I Think of Cliffordsville" have the same "Main character wishes to return to his childhood"?
@owenscott6159
@owenscott6159 8 ай бұрын
What if megamind was in monster vs aliens
@daedralord1
@daedralord1 8 ай бұрын
Why is it I see Harry crane from mad men as the character lol.
@TJ.Turner
@TJ.Turner 8 ай бұрын
His performance was a precursor to Jim Carrey
@jlev1028
@jlev1028 8 ай бұрын
Except Carrey is much funnier.
@artsveiman7776
@artsveiman7776 8 ай бұрын
Interesting premise, but a bit lacking. I do think Horace should have spent more time in that street, slowly reliving and confronting his traumas, maybe even exploring how his home life, was really like. I dont think he was miscast, I just think he was directed and written wrong.
@michaellucejr.6374
@michaellucejr.6374 8 ай бұрын
The hat Hermy wears gives me serious Jughead vibes
@jenniferschillig3768
@jenniferschillig3768 8 ай бұрын
I think that's a holdover from the time period...kids would wear their father's cast-off hats with the brim snipped into a zigzag.
@michaellucejr.6374
@michaellucejr.6374 8 ай бұрын
@@jenniferschillig3768 Oh, I see.
@michaellucejr.6374
@michaellucejr.6374 8 ай бұрын
While on the subject of Riverdale, what if the Twilight Zone did episode with characters from Archie Comics characters? Here’s an idea: in the town of Riverdale, lives a teenager named Archie Andrews and his 3 best friends: Jughead Jones, Betty Cooper and Veronica Lodge. The four kids plan their Halloween night out together, but snobbish rich twins Cheryl and Jason Blossom invite the four teenagers to their house for a party on Halloween night. But it’s a prank. Later on the twist is that the Blossom twins paid a witch to bring Archie and his friends into the afterlife but just for Halloween.
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