The Indian Truckie Problem

[@vickiy.forsyth6497]

One example of dealing with an Indian driver. I have a few. This one blew me away. Setting. I am female, short, old and drive a semi. live unload at Wacol in not the nicest of places to get into. Two semi lengths from busy intersection behind you, you have to stop, wait for oncoming traffic to clear, swing to opposite side, back to your side then reverse in on your drivers side. Easy when you know and the traffic works with you. Got there one morning just after 7, stopped blocked traffic but couldn’t do the swing as semi oddly parked on left in front. Called him up, no answer. He moved forward enough for me to quickly swing right then left and back in. As I positioned myself in doorway, a Indian driver walked in the gateway and I knew in a heart beat I had duck shoved him. Second heart beat thought oh shite , the shites about to hit the fan. Instead of shite flying he came up and asked me if I could back him in when they had finished unloading me as he had just gotten his licence. Gobsmacked said yes, told him where to park around the corner and as they unloaded me informed my allocator what I was going to do.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yes I've had that too. It doesn't bother to help in that way but I just hope they learn quickly and the quickest way is to practise.

[@darrenprior6339]

John, you are an absolute gentleman. Congratulations on handling such a topic with class and sensitivity. As always, really enjoy your videos. Cheers

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Very nice. Thanks Darren

[@Tonyzipporah]

Well done Johno for having a go at this one! Everyone has to start somewhere. I've appreciated help from others and still do, I try to help where I can but its not always accepted. I've encountered many good people and a fair share of arseholes - that's life. It's like arriving at a caravan park , everyone's watching the new arrival to see if he can reverse and what he/she hits , then there are those that will come over and assist. Keep up the good work.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

For sure. You are so right Tony

[@MrAceHornet]

From my understanding in Australia you need min 1 year experience on Hr than another 1 year experience on HC and another year before going onto bdouble. But these Indian drivers can be granted an exception by having a current/previous employer say they're experienced. Resulting in inexperienced drivers of big trucks + not being familiar with Australian roads

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yes they have me that they can license straight to MC

[@grahamcampbell9261]

There are agencies who will issue certificates for money in India (and elsewhere). How do you verify? Wife's workers claim experience in 5* hotels - must have been as dishwashers because they aren't even cooks. In NZ, they want workers, so Indians get a fast visa. Undermines wage rises ("To fight inflation" and increase profits). Avoids cost of training locals. Same in UK - Incompetent (but cheap) Indian and Eastern European truck drivers imported in bulk.

[@Brad_The_Truckie]

Yeah that’s one of the biggest issues

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

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[@davidwilson9988]

Mate, you’re a credit to the whole country, it won’t be easy or fast, but if everyone took the view you have imagine how much better off we’d all be together, cheers 👏👏

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Awesome. Thanks David. One step at a time.

[@DCMIKE2K]

You’re a good guy John from a truck driver in the states, we need more people like you over here

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Ha ha. Thanks. We need more good operators here so I can't leave.

[@DCMIKE2K]

@@RoadTrainAdventuresone thing on my bucket list is to come over there and drive a road train. I have over 30 years experience. How hard is the process?

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

I have know idea of the visa process. I've you're here then it shouldn't be too hard to find a company that will take you on.

[@hv7507]

Hi John, love your outlook on trucking and indian drivers. An idea perhaps, do a series of videos on the specific things needed to start on a journey across the country . From food/diet, clothes, prepping the truck, straps etc. I know you have done several already but put them together under a title. I am a coach driver and my first trip from Adelaide to Darwin , i spent several weeks talking to more senior coach drivers about where to stop, food, toilet stops, maps etc. I had no hic cups the whole journey 15 days. Just an idea.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yeah that's what I was thinking. Make a play list for these instructional videos.

[@AlexJacksonSmith]

@@RoadTrainAdventures Interesting this is rather like the campervan community telling people where to overnight, good places for food, things to watch out for. In that community in Europe we also often share info on legal requirements for example breath testers in France, and such like.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

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[@grahamcampbell9261]

My wife is a Chef and has 2 Indian cooks. Both are chauvinists, lie about their ability and won't follow instructions, thinking they know best, despite proof. She has said "Make mayonnaise" "Yes I know how" -she turns and they are Googling it. Their fundamental attitude is to lie and cheat. Australia is a semi-racist country, so getting each to help the other is unlikely. I have an Indian friend from NZ who now lives in India - he experiences constant lies, failure to follow instructions and is sick of getting ripped off at every turn.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

That's bad news about your friend. No good at all

[@WayneCook306]

Boy how true this is I have run across this many many times.

[@bigal878]

The majority of Indians and other ‘Raj’s’ on the roads are nightmares in my opinion and I’m not being racist. They get employed because they work cheap and will do any crap job that often many white Aussies won’t do.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

@WayneCook306 Wow

[@symphynity]

My experiences with Indians , in many occupations and trades : DO NOT TRUST THEM. They will lie , cheat and steal. Some of them are probably OK , but l have yet to meet one !

[@johnlang4198]

Problem is that there seems to be a lack of training, and possibly dodgy practices like passing Australian driving tests in their own languages. Also, they must get over their egos and be willing to learn the right ways.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yes I hear you

[@johnlang4198]

Another thing is that because of the way our country was founded, the Aussie ethos has been "We're all in this together, let's make it work" Therefore, we are receptive to new ideas, always willing to help and teach, and suspicious of those who fail to try to assimilate, and those that claim that they know it all and have a "my way or the highway" attitude. We have a tradition of "fixing it with wire to keep it on the road" and doing whatever it takes to get the job done. Therefore, there are many unwritten rules that aren't illegal, but only known to those with experience, so it's a two way street. Show an Aussie a better way, we'll adopt it, but at the same time let us Aussies to show you what we've learnt works here, and be open to us in return, and we'll all get along fine.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yes the Aussie way. Do you think that's on the way out too though?

[@johngreydanus2033]

How do you pass just by "own" language? I had a QLD Medium Rigid (MR) license, which I had to pass both a written and a driving test. And I'm of the understanding that I would have to hold that for at least 1-year, then I could apply for the Heavy Rigid (HR) license which I believe requires another driving test, as well as written.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

I understand that the Indians can have their Indian license transferred over to a Australian MC.

[@railvlogger1439]

I remember when I started truck driving in the mid 70'. I had to figure out a lot of things for myself. I made a few mistakes. Mostly it was tarped loads back then using ropes and chains mostly, depending on the load. There were no straps back then. I used to dread tarping. I never seemed to be able to get it right in the beginning. I would always be stopping and adjusting everything. But in time everything fell into place. Many truckies have helped me over the years, and I have helped truckies and motorists out on numerous occasions. I have been out of the trucking industry since 2004, and miss it a lot. I hope the camaraderie is still there on the road.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

No there is not much help on the road anymore. Not sure why yet Maybe people are in too much of a hurry.

[@rossawood5075]

Yep back in the day a driver had to be really nice to the forklift drivers if you wanted your properly rolled up 'cap' tarp to find the top of the load, I was brought up using manilla' rope to tie down loads, single, double and rarely triple truckies loops were used and your hands got really calloused, let alone hand loading before even pallets were common. Very different world now, back in the day air con was winding out the front windscreen and a cold drink came from canvas water bags tied onto the front bar, seats were backbreaking with no lower back cushion and you climbed in to many COE trucks via the front wheel. Power steering was by 'arm strong" and heavy clutches meant a left knee replacement in later years ! You had to change your own ryres and it would virtually always be an inner rear drive tyre, a driver was always dirty, ( I loaded truck tyres on 37 foot trailer at Dunlop at Drummoyne by hand ) and I would have passed as an African in colour by the finish and I'm white, blond and blue eyed, well I was blond once now very white hair LOL.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

@rossawood5075 Sounds like you've got some good experiences there. Most of the good operators are slowly being retired out of transport. Things have really changed.

[@rossawood5075]

The good improvements in the industry have been, better seats, larger companies sending drivers to advanced training course, driving for safety, driving for fuel efficiency , driving to look after the truck, rest times, no more having unreasonable trucking managers push drivers to exceed their tiredness just to get an extra load out, ' road service' Yay! But the days of helping out another driver load or repair is changing, I lost low range on a Transtar Sydney Melbourne with a load of stinky cattle hides one night and an RS 600 Mack driver with an empty trailer wired wooden cats eye posts to his bull bar and pushed me over the Razor back coming up behind me as I dropped speed, couldn't get away with that one any more. Yep times have changed and we just fade into the mist now as the younger men find reasons to complain about their lot as we did. Oh and who can forget those bloody Comet overnighters running light freight overtaking on blind corners, I remember some good standup fights later at Souther Cross

[@rossawood5075]

well the site near what became Southern Cross truck stop in the mid to late 70,s, I think Southern Cross opened in 2002 much later. A lot of us heavy haulers had little time for those rigid Comet drivers in their purple Kenwort rigid running cartons but I guess we mellow in time. 239 hp Macks were big bangers but the 350 Cummins was king! I drove a Transtar 4070 with a 250 Cummins for Bruce Panucci for a while back in the day and Bruce was a very hard worker and expected the same from all of his drivers, never got one of the 871 V8 Transtars he had a couple of though, lasted after one of those although I did drive a Rigid for him with Perkins 640 215 hp V8 that sounded pretty good. Later a mighty 500hp E9 Mack became a machine I loved 12 speed Mack box and straight through stacks, Tchaikovsky's 1812 to any truck driver! I'm rambling now, so maybe I'llsee you in the big truck yard in the sky one day. May all of you drivers stay safe !

[@longship789]

A great topic and terrific that you are seeking how to assist newer Indian drivers, that's got to be good thing. It can be lonely and challenging out on the road for new truckies. I drove dual axle heavy trucks for Linfox doing supermarket deliveries around Metro Melbourne many years ago in my mid twenties. I knew "stuff all" about it. But at the depot a few of the older truckies with attitudes like yours came and gave me tips which were much appreciated. Most of the trucks had boxed trays but one didn't and I got taught how to tarp and tie down my load. I felt absolutely great learning how to do that and I still use the truckies hitch today! Probably no one solution will solve the situation but this is a start.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

That's an awesome story. You're proof how teaching you stuff helped you for the rest of your life.

[@markhiggins4245]

thank you ! as a former UK driver, there are things that you have brought to my attention that I had not known about.I find this very informative . I do miss the the joy of driving and have been tempted to have a go after 18 yrs out of the industry. I live in the NSW south coast area and presently work in the health system. keep on keeping on!

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Awesome. Thanks Mark

[@pamelakinnane1863]

I worked in the hospitality industry for 20 years. On occasion we had half a dozen male Indian employees working in different areas of the hotel. They were lovely people, all very nice, very friendly BUT they couldn't or wouldn't follow the rules of the workplace. It was like they thought the rules applied to everyone else and being truthful about their work was unheard of. They have a totally different mindset.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Oh wow. That's no good.

[@goingforadds]

It's until they get caught mate.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

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[@markpierce8674]

I’m 55 and always will listen to anyone who can help me in my work day

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

That's awesome Mark

[@WilliamHughes-th1no]

It happens in lot of work places they are no all's I don't know who they think they are most of them big wide country over here the two fellas you helped out few videos ago certainly appreciated your help 👍 that's the Aussie way

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yes those two I helped out could have been there for a long time if they had to wait for help to come from Norseman. They were very grateful.

[@2B34ever]

I know its an older video but I gotta leave a comment. About 15 years back, a Indian couple came to the church I attended at the time. After a little while the husband mentioned that he kept failing his Australian drivers test, and was starting to believe that all Australian driving instructors were racist. A number of Men stepped up to assist him to learn how to drive the Australian way. Regardless of these extra lessons he still kept failing that test. Then I offered to help. When he first sat in my car the first thing he said to me was, " I know how to drive, I have been driving on the roads of India for 20 years". I promptly informed him that that was great but it did not impress me, and nor would it impress any instructor for India is not Australia. He had to unlearn everything he knew, and that was difficult for him at first. We say that Indians are a humble group of people, I think a dodgy Indian sold us that idea, because in my experience with Indian Men, that is mostly not the case. 6 weeks later he passed his driving test. We all need to learn that it is ok to ask for assistance when we are unsure of ourselves or the situation we find ourselves in. Most of the time it is better to humble one's self over having a "I know everything attitude". Because as you'd be aware, life always throws us a curve ball when we least expect it.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Very wise words and yes we can all learn from each other.

[@2B34ever]

@@RoadTrainAdventures I ended up having Bangers and mash for dinner. For the life of me I don't know where I got that idea from. lol, Stay safe, if you're out driving tonight Johno.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

I hope they were good. I don't mind the beef sausages but the pork ones are nice.

[@davetaylor4741]

Government problem. As mentioned in some other comments. And it is not just in the trucking industry. Whatever your trade or profession there is a learning curve. Most of us follow it. Learning as we go. But this has been broken down by often Government schemes. Direct imported workers that are made exempt from having to follow normal time procedures and training. They jump straight to the top. I have come across it numerous times in construction. Taking a course that for me has many entry restrictions based on experience and prior exams. Sitting next to guys that have no relevant experience. Not even worked in the industry. But being fast tracked against the rules. Then we get the Indian delivery drivers. Can't get the truck on site. Too hard. Or can't operate the crane on the truck. Who lets this happen. The natural progression through a profession has served us well for years. On the job training, learning as you go. Jumping straight in a Road Train when last week you were driving a Rav. All wrong. It is like going in for brain surgery with a fast tracked surgeon. You're are all right mate. Learnt me trade as a Butcher. Very similar.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Thanks Dave. I hear you and agree.

[@jordanlee1243]

appreciate u bringing up this topic I think the main reason is there is a massive driver shortage in the transport industry these days so company's can't be fussy about who they employ if the indians r willing to work and have ago I give them full credit if company's had a training system in place for new comers maybe things would be different on the higway when I got my license 7 years ago I started out just doing local work for 18 months and tutored my self on skills with operating a truck good on ya johno your a legend

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Awesome. Thanks

[@xzseng4524]

lovely to hear your words johno. Im of asian ethncity and am trying to find a way to get my trucking dream over there. I always wondered if locals would be willing to help if needed on the road. Honestly those are fears. Having no one help

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

I do believe if you ask for help then most will. Of course there are always going to be some that don't but it's important to ask.

[@andrewdavis9021]

Always ask for help. I am an older (54 yo) australian who has just got my HC licence this year and do infrequent runs. About once a month I will do an interstate trip. Then do a few days work at the location, then bring the truck back . So most guys think I have experience, but I don't. If I need help I will go up to someone and just say G'day. If they are willing to say G'day mate back, then I tell them the truth, and ask if they have the time to help and educate me on whatever it is I am trying to do at the time. Just also be respectful that they have time restraints. Just remember that the only dumb question is the one you didn't ask.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

You are so right. You got a great attitude.

[@xzseng4524]

@andrewdavis9021 damn. That's some good words I've ever heard in a long time. If only majority were like you. 👍

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

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[@stevewilliams5624]

Newly returned to WA after 35yrs and travelling the same region, SA into South WA. Driving 10t rigid towing a caravan and was listening to two aussie truck drivers slagging the Indian drivers on the two-way. It was pretty disappointing. I work in the mining industry and have gone out of my way to befriend other nationalities, including Indians. They are generally a little stand-off initially but really appreciate the friendship and help. Being polite is a great start.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yes you got it. Most people are very nice if you can get to know them.

[@dougtilley5977]

That Runner , I reackon it's the same one that I seen heading West on the Hay plains on 17th Sept, , went past your depot on 26th too. hey those hills out to the right have sea shells on top , I discovered that back in 1967 when I walked up on top East of Madura there was a Microwave dish tower.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Oh wow. Tell me more about where these sea shells are. I wouldn't mind checking that out.

[@jefftheaussie2225]

A lot of Australia was formed under the sea. The cliffs along the Nullarbor are limestone, whale bones turned to stone.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Awesome

[@dougtilley5977]

7.2 kLMS East of the turn off into Madura. then 851m walk up the hill, no need to go to the Micro Tower, but you could use the drone and get some videos real close to the ground @@RoadTrainAdventures

[@dougtilley5977]

The tower is visible from the highway and also see it on Google Earth.@@RoadTrainAdventures

[@goingforadds]

The reality is - we don't have enough truckies. That's it. Give it time - they'll get better. But for now, we're going through a rough transition - across the whole logisitics industry. The culture, the approach, the mindset - it's all going to take time to get right and better. But for now, we have to work with what we have.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

You are right in what you say. I'm just wondering if we can speed up the learning process.

[@lindsaybrown7357]

We had a 2 metre tall electrical switchboard topple over in transit on a tautliner. The Indian driver would take no responsibility. His words were "I only drive the truck, I'm not responsible for the way it's loaded".

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Oh no. Trouble

[@chrismckell5353]

I have heard that excuse or similar from many different people and while it may be true that a line haul driver is not responsible for loading. They are responsible for driving carefully. Drive as though have fragile freight because you just may.

[@lindsaybrown7357]

@@chrismckell5353 Where I live, if you're carrying it, you're responsible for it.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

They also need to check the load and make sure the straps and chains are tight

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

That's for sure

[@Ratrom2]

I also drive Line haul (part time) and have had a couple experiences with drivers mentioned, a bit dodgy but the worst experience is with my main job as Group manager, and I have had all of the Indian drivers for Toll refuse to follow instructions on where to park their rigs, and how (we) load our product. To the point. My manager in the North Island, NZ complains to me almost everyday, she being female, every time she calls, I have to call the driver and pretty much INSIST they listen to her instructions on where to park, because they prefer an easy option as apposed to a legal one for when it comes to loading our product. Such as park on main road with a B-double or Truck and Trailer, rather than in our yard that requires a little more time and skill. But its not that hard. Some are good in my experience, but most I have delt with on and off the road are yet to be desired..

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yeah I hear you. It's true what you're saying. Lucky it's not all of them. You're always going to get some who can't follow instructions but that can be said about us Aussies too.

[@Ratrom2]

@@RoadTrainAdventures Very true. I go as far saying in my experience with aggressive drivers on the road have not been Indian, but Aussie and Kiwi drivers, thankfully not many of them too..

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

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[@clarefreeman3909]

Hi Johno, well done mate, it's a tricky situation and not just for truckies. I think its a problem across the board in our society. I guess the way to help is to be patient and helpful, keep making videos to show the problem.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

You got it. Wise words.

[@tikymiester8442]

Hey Johnno. Obviously straight up experience comes into play but then there’s the how can you get it if you can’t get a go. Driving schools teach you to drive one in one day. You can’t even do that in a car. I think there should be a course put together by senior drivers that have all the bells and whistles in it teaching basic to the advanced

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

That sounds like a great idea. I wonder how many would take that up.

[@brianrollins3245]

by all means do what you can to help others and keep the roads safe but surely the root problem lies with the employer for not confirming skill levels of new hires are suitable for the job regardless of the "qualifications". In my experience not all "qualifications" are equal.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yeah. I think that lots of companies are short of drivers and will take who they can get. So where are all the drivers? I guess they bailed.

[@garthbooth4988]

Great idea John, I’ve learned a lot from your videos so far, more videos with some tricks and tips would be great, I’m a truck driver from Ireland, im making the move to Oz in the new year and can’t wait to get trucking over there !

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Awesome. We need more good operators

[@brianellis2274]

Hey John, a good start might be to go back to the old days where no company (except maybe the cowboys) would let you drive long distance until you'd done a year or two around town to prove yourself. Then when you finally got on the road, either go two up or team up with a "buddy" in another truck for a couple of loads to show you the ropes. Another thing that might help in the big companies is get more ex drivers in charge of driver allocation, rather than some desk jockey with a uni degree who doesn't know one end of a truck from the other.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

I like both of your points. Trouble is with the first point is that there is a driver shortage and therefore companies will hire people with less experience to cover the runs.

[@18robsmith]

I've worked with quite a few from the Indian sub-continent. Some of them were willing to ask for help, but there were others who would not ask for help (eve when it was a two/three person job) then blunder on causing damage to the equipment concerned (or in the worst case, suffering a serious avoidable injury). It would appear to be cultural divide, those born in the UK being more willing to ask for help, and the recent arrivals being less-so.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yeah I hear you. That does happen with Aussie guys too.

[@toddtelford713]

hello my friend...Ive watched you adventures for some time now and just really needed to comment this time... Ive just completed, (well not very satisfactorily personally), here in Adelaide my HR licence...Im slowly working my way to basically what you are doing now...I did my driver training with an Indian driving school down here and im not happy with the results, so much so that Im going to go elsewhere to further my training...I basically went for training on automatic busses around Adelaide, with an eye to increasing my licence to the likes of your level...I didnt train on a bus and to this point havnt driven one...although I did work in the film industry awhile back when I got my MR licence and have driven MR trucks in the Film business for years which included makeup and wardrobe busses with no passengers...so I have driven busses but I wanted my passenger bus licence so I trained with this Indian fella and only trained in what was basically a heavier version of my MR truck, but no where nerar the lengh of a typical bus!...which left me very unsatisfied and not really ready for work. My biggest problem was translating his bad english to my Aussie english and hempered my training I believe....apart from the fact that it was only halfway through the day that I found out that I was carrying (ton of weight...another thing that would have been nice to know to start lol...could work out why I was having issues braking... So Now im going to look into an Aussie type training school in which I can understand and dont need to translate...It was quite an I opener...he was a good couch but after a days training he passed me for HR licence. which He should never have done! now I can see the difficulty of Indian drivers just dropping in here and hoping they can get our driving rules correct without at least good language lessons! lol

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Wow what a story. Yes I expected to hear some bad ones. I sure hope you get to practice then as it sounds like you're still not confident in driving. It's great that you recognise this too.

[@toddtelford713]

@@RoadTrainAdventures ...well I am confident in the driving I know how to do...I drove a 15ton G88 for sometime in the film biz down here. to places like Cook and Alice Springs towing a pig trailer with a film Tracking vehicle in it...but to go from that to getting my HR licence I shouldn't have been passed by this ( albeit) nice Indian Fella but I think He thought I payed for the day and should pass me which he shouldn't have done...If he he'd asked me back for more training I would have taken it but Im going to try elsewhere with the lack of teaching Im afraid...which is my point about Indian drivers not learning in our country and our ways...some shouldnt be passed I believe...

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yeah I see now.

[@Just-Buses]

I work with a large number of Indian bus drivers, here in Brisbane. As I have a quite a few years of bus driving on my belt, I've had a number of new Indian drivers (Straight out of bus training school) ask for help with either moving up the rungs later, or some advice when it comes to even braking, especially in the larger 14.5m TAG buses. Some have difficulty in that area. So, I guess it\s down to the individual, J.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Oh yeah. Definitely

[@barrybgnathan4766]

Gidday mate I'm a retired kiwi truckie , last couple of years in the office despatching. We had a few Indian truck drivers who i found to be polite well mannered and had a sense humour. A couple of thjngs i found annoying was there lack of road courtesy for example your in a cue of traffic and leave room for that driver to exit a driveway not even a wave or smile to acknowledge, and over here they but not all seam to be on their phones with the earphone headsets on when you should have all your faculties about you while driving. Anyway thats my little moan keep up the good work cheers mate.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yeah you're on the money there

[@ManpreetDhillonVLOGS]

Hey buddy I love your videos i never skip your any video o find them very informative I drive fuel tanker in NZ. I started with small truck then progress through my licenses now im on b double , im learning from the best people who are in the industry for whole their life, sometimes i ask from new guys who gave them training their answer is just no one . So yes their lack of training.. we all need to understand the value of good training. What i see in Australia our people stay away from aussie people that they ll make their video or post it on TikTok. And yea sometimes it is attitude problem. This thing can be fixed but everyone need to be humble. Instead of making videos ask if you can help. And your videos ll help john Thank you for this awesome channel Cheers 🍻

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Very good. Yes it's great that things work better in NZ. Indians are very hard working people. Once they get more experience and knowledge them all will be good.

[@reubs91]

The near misses I have had on the road from trucks are; by Indian drivers, young Anglo drivers (aggressive and inexperienced), and haul drivers doing quarry work that know the road and vehicle speed and are very aggressive.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

These are the experiences in hoping that will change.

[@jefftheaussie2225]

I know what you mean about truck and dog drivers.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Great

[@jefftheaussie2225]

Good on you Johnno, I suppose it has a lot to do with the big jealousy problem we have with someone who is prepared to do something for less than us. They come from a different back ground and know what work is and will do it. Also the 2 way gives people a lot of anonymity and the courage that goes with that, PTT warriors if you may. Your comment about the RMS and other state setups is valid but it would soon go back to the good old days without them when people regularly tried to get 50 ton of wheat on a tri axle tipper which was worn out and all the other things that went on. I know of a case where a professional wheat carter had a load of more than the legal gross for that truck on it (not isolated for him). It was an old Dodge 675 (not that old then) with the venerable 318, a legendary truck. Jeff

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Very well said

[@markmcarthur4353]

Good on you mate. It is a problem that needs to be addressed.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

And addressing it is the part I don't know what best to do. I guess it's why I'm asking for suggestions. Hopefully together we can come up with the best solution.

[@Haggisfondler]

Mate love the video. I’m new to the trucking industry. With that researching it I came across a lot of your videos and allot of Indian drivers. A great idea may be to collaborate with another KZbinr who is Indian and maybe do a Q&A as I’m sure you will both be able to give great opinions on anything from both sides.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Get together with another Indian KZbinr. That's a great idea. I don't know any so I'll have to make some enquiries.

[@vickiy.forsyth6497]

Another story. Indian subbies on night shift for the company I work for. Container division has a yard of its own for parking trailers and such. I am sick and tired of trying to explain, and show to them how to park the trailers so that they are not blocking in other trucks and trailers or using two trailer parking spaces for one trailer. It’s gotten that way that I have given up as I am fed up with smashing my head against a brick wall.

[@Just-Buses]

Vicky, Tyne? DPW etc? :-)

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yeah I hear your frustrations.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

👍

[@vickiy.forsyth6497]

@@Just-Buses some of them have no clue of the ins and out and correct etticate of how it works at Tyne.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

👍

[@gregorymiller7828]

well mate i love your stuff

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Thanks Gregory. It's great to have you along.

[@bobevansIW]

Hey Johnno! What a great topic. Here in the UK, as you will probably know, we are a very multi-cultural society. Doesn't suit a lot of Brits, like natives of a lot of countries, but that's another story. What I am getting at, is that Indians (Asians) tend to keep themselves to themselves. Many live in locales to their own ethnic cultures and don't, as a rule, ask others for help. Some are the exception to the rule, and are great people to work with, even sharing their way of doing things. I would offer help to anyone, but it's almost like they have some kind of pride and won't accept help. To help break this, I think that your idea of uploading "How To's" on items such as roping and sheeting, using chains or maybe how to fire up a fridge! would break down that barrier of them not having to ask, and at the same time making the workplace safer for them, and others. We all need to learn to get along with each other, I'm not sure a KZbin video can solve that one, but hey, anything that makes your job easier and safer would certainly help? 🇬🇧

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yeah great advice. I don't know when I can make all these but I'll certainly try to make a start and make a play list.

[@gregedwards1211]

I have had one come up to me and offer help. He took something from his truck and we used it on mine. Top bloke. I'd never say a bad word about them.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

That's excellent. It's true. We should not judge everyone because of a few, if that makes sense.

[@blueyonder1233]

Great video with the bonus of no editing. Excellent topic. Not sure there is a solution. The most important thing is that you enjoy your job. People who have open minds & are willing to learn will succeed, others will struggle their way through life. Age doesn't always equate to more experienced. Everyone is traveling a journey at different stages. Learning is ongoing. Now, my thoughts are drifting towards that runner, and why?

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

You sound very level headed and sensible. The runner... Yes a few people brought him up.

[@robertjones3406]

Very polite way to put this question John. I do have concrns about how do they even become employed here with put this knowledge . Is it goid for the Industry itself and ho about all the Safety issue they seem tohave by simply not knowing or understanding the rules. Thennwe come to how safe in general are the Public with these drivers being released onto these roads we have in Aus. I am not biased in any way but if not capable how do they ever get a Licenece. Australian Drivers in General are amongst the most sought after in all the World as they look and learn and have come up the Hard way in extreme conditions.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Thanks Robert. I don't want things to get harder for us but maybe the driving test might need to be changed. Needing that learner to know a lot more before they can get their license.

[@jenesisjones6706]

It's not just trucks, it's Ubers, Taxis,Menulog etc., and Coles/Woolies deliveries.

[@WayneCook306]

You forgot Buses.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yeah I wasn't branching out to the other industries.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

For sure

[@ACDZ123]

Just look at the cars they drive, all full of dings ,bumpers taped up ,scratches all down the sides 🤣 it's not like we're making it up

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

👍

[@Mustard1987]

The Indians aren't the problem. What they do though...is shine a spotlight on a broader problem. The biggest problem with the industry is sheer lack of education! To become a tradie (driving is a trade like any other) you have to do several years of trade school and on the job training before you are qualified. To become a driver you do a weekend course and you can legally drive a road train with virtually zero experience...and there is no obligation on the company to verify that you know what you are doing. The industry needs serious change and the government needs to provide funding for subsidised on the job training... If we lose the current generation of experienced operators before this happens...the industry will be on its knees. Some might say that it already is!...

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yeah for sure. I guess most companies want experienced drivers for that reason. The others may not spend the time training them.

[@Just-Buses]

I thought the NHVR were supposed to be the new gods of the industry, The fact that they didn't take over all State and territory transport responsibilities, pretty well tells us that they're just another revenue grabber, rather than educators.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

They have targeted the Indians for a while. Not sure how that's working out besides them making more money.

[@castrain1419]

John, I think your analysis was spot on. It's all about attitude, from both sides. I work with quite a few Indians, some are great blokes, and fantastic drivers, a few are not. Definitely found if they are approached with a good attitude they will be open to suggestions. I have seen guys bark at them and then whinge they won't listen! BTW, KZbin videos are great for learning, I have picked up quite a few tricks from them including your channel.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Awesome. Thanks for your kind words.

[@toddtelford713]

...great comments sir! once ive had my extra training, which I will need lol...I will get back on some better Ideas maybe...and thankyou again for you priceless videos and your advice. I would advise any Indian drivers to see the way you do things my friend... the quintessential Aussie trucker right here! :)

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Thanks todd

[@stevemcintyre4398]

Hi John, the wat I see it is that there are obvious cultural differences between us here in Oz and other places. Working in IT for 20 years (ask me how I know) however I've found if you treat all people with respect they tend to see the difference in work ethic and learn quickly . Those who don't simply move on to something else. Long haul transport is a tough gig, helping each other makes it more satisfying for all I would think.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yes. I'd like us to be like one big happy family. On... Am I dreaming now?

[@jerryplante4239]

Same issue in the US. Inexperienced foreign drivers that don't understand the industry. In the 'old days' they wouldn't get hired, but no one can afford to be a driver in the US anymore. The government limits the number of hours you can drive, the insurance companies limit the number of miles you can go in an hour and you get paid by the mile. No matter how hard you work, there is a hard limit to how much you can make on a trip. A typical US worker believes if you work harder you do better. No way to do that driving a truck in the US anymore.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Oh yeah. I hear you. Regulating the life of of the industry. I don't agree with that at all.

[@dennisjohnstone4739]

Great video Johno and a topic sensitively approached wisely discussed. I think part of the issue stems from racism, probably in both directions to a greater or lesser degree. I have experienced this with other migrants who have come here for a better life being denigrated because they are different having been raised in a different society. Most of these migrants are honest hard working people who when you get to know them are friendly helpful people who in my experience often have a great sense of humour. In my working life I like you endeavoured to get on with all people i came across out on the road in the truck or at depots that resulted in many friends in the industry and a rewarding career that I loved and still think of fondly now in retirement. Thanks for your videos mate, they get me back into the environment I worked in but in the left seat now. Safe travels and keep the shiny side up.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Awesome attitude and great work. Keep up the great work.

[@Kolan_Koala]

Kangaroos are always racist to Koalas

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

@@Kolan_Koala Now that's a very sad situation...

[@THyde4282]

Really interesting. Do the Australian and Indian governments have a specific visa for Indian drivers? I know of many European drivers with years of experience who cannot work in Australia. If so it does look like a simple economic deal.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

I have no idea about visas but it certainly looks like it's easy for an Indian to come over. We are flooded with them.

[@MrEven]

Recently got my HR license in NSW and while I was calling around the Sydney area truck schools for details on their procedure and costs. I had noticed that a few of them couldn't give me too much detail and that they would sometimes call me back with a more "experienced" driver so to speak to give details. I ended up going out of Sydney and doing my HR in Armidale with an Australian who worked in transport and did the Truck School as a weekend job. He was willing to spend the extra time on showing how to securely strap loads down as he was loading up the truck to have me practice driving around on full weight and also to do the test with. He was very patient with me especially after I had advised him that I've only towed 3.5T caravans before and never driven trucks, which was the complete opposite tone I had with a few truck schools in Sydney.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Wow. Yes I would imagine not all driving schools would be as good as each other.

[@jamiedixon1803]

totally agree with helping them the problem is the bulling from other truck drivers

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yeah that can be a problem too.

[@pb9040]

Dont matter chaining down as long as the individual is happy with restraints and it gets to the other end !!

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

That's what I originally thought too but when though it gets to the other end, it may not if you have to stop suddenly so the load may not be chained down using the best method.

[@truckynforky]

I'm of Indian background and yes I have seen some dumb stuff on the roads. I'd say I'm an alright driver and have taught others of my race. I think the language may also be playing a slight role. I can speak Hindi and another Indian Language fluently so that really helped those guys.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

That's awesome. Keep up the great work.

[@foff3379]

Thats the now problem mate if immigrants in general cant understand english they shouldnt be on our roads fullstop as the signs should be in english and nothing else. I dont see foreign countries catering to australians and nor should we

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Very good point

[@jamesgovett3225]

I was enjoying the cab ride! Nice truck, tracks well, sounds like there is a bit of a divide with the Indian drivers, sounds like it’s going to be a matter of time than a ready fix on that one, I know what your saying regarding there is always someone that reckons they know better as in my long working days there is always a “Fly in the ointment” wherever you work unfortunately! Good luck 👍

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Thanks James.

[@BackyardFleet]

What with the dude running out in the middle of nowhere (8:40), do you see that kind of thing very often? Didnt notice any kind of support vehicles etc with him.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Every now and then there are more like him but we're getting more and more push bikes.

[@hughwilson2219]

Does the first responsibility fall to the employer to make sure their drivers have suitable experience and or training? If there's a shortage of experienced drivers here, that too falls to the industry to do their part to remedy. I see lots of complaints about the driving schools being a tick-and-flick exercise for money making. I looked at a random truck driving school to see what they offered and, well, it did look a bit slim to say the least. That's clearly the fault of governments hating 'red tape' and turning driving licenceing into a private industry. It's not as if poor driving is restricted to truck drivers though.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yes it's a factor of many

[@michaelclayton1827]

I agree! Young'uns stuff up! I did when I started out. I bet you did too 🙃. There seems to be a difference between a 35 year old migrant transferring their license from another country to what 19 year olds in Australia have to do to GET a license! If I was still in the hard seat! I would help anyone I could! I had many people help me when I started out! I wouldn't know what I know now without them! ( STILL have everything to learn though)! YES! To make our roads safer and easier for everyone. Indian truck drivers should feel safe asking questions or ask for help! Have come to AUS received their license! Off they go in a B_Double! THIS! Is a tough one!

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

For sure Michael and its great to hear that you would always help people who need it. That has been lost here.

[@Trevor7727]

first step is to say g’day to your fellow drivers. Some ignore you and some say “g’day mate” back…. it doesn’t matter who they are. But that’s their problem not yours. Well said Johnno …

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yes not everyone is so friendly anymore. I just wonder if we can save our industry before it's too late. I would like to give it my best.

[@jeffreystorer4966]

Sadly being a good truck driver ,is a highly underated and underpaid profession, to be just thrown behind the wheel of heavy vechles is just madness

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

You got it Jeffrey

[@andrewthacker114]

Interesting clip, thanks for sharing

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Awesome. Thanks Andrew

[@edwardvanderende8892]

Hi John. I agree there is few problems in that area. Is it because when drive over there the law unconplacement there. And think that here doesn't apply, mmmm . And yes same time I see then stagleing & ask if thay need help. In Towing industry that very bad is thay don't care or pressure from there boss. In job try stay professional as possible. Good idea regarding video. Safety drive. Eddys Towing

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Thanks for sharing. Very true

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

You raise some good points.

[@Lex-Hawthorn]

It's all about the dollars, and how much the greedy bosses can make.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yeah that could be true too.

[@Stewsadventures]

I was sitting in Perth BP Roadhouse quite a few years ago and one Indian fella was there I spoke to him first and he responded we spoke for quite some time he was very genuine

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Oh yeah. Most of them a very nice

[@johnjordan4647]

Johnno it is that Australia has became very angry. Look how many road rage incidents these days. Retail workers getting abused for just doing their jobs. Bloody place getting more like America everyday. Sad really. Keep up the good work YOUNG FELLA 😂👍We need a bit more of these ❤️💖❤️💖

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Thanks John. Yes road rage is getting a little too common.

[@tylersmith2952]

I think that creating videos showing people how to chain down loads and other things because it won’t only teach the Indians but also us aussies who might not have as much experience, cheers John

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yeah I'm thinking I might start that when I get a chance.

[@stilley78]

Onya Johnno. I'm a non-truck driving fan of your channel (healthcare worker who does work with Indian people). All I can suggest is to treat people the way that you would like to be treated. Would you like to be spoken to in a disrespectful or condescending manner? No? Well just help them out to the best of your ability or if you can't help them, maybe help them get in contact with someone who can help them.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

That's very true. Great everyone else how you'd like to be treated. I always give respect to everyone and I would guess you would do the same.

[@sabarip1870]

If you are a experienced person in any industry and are not happy to share the knowledge to others irrespective of their background then you are just wasting the immense knowledge and skills you have. All that needs is approaching someone inexperienced with a 'Mate, do you need any help'. Nobody loses any pride in doing so and it's the best way to grow. In my line of work, I like to help all the new employees, trainees, interns, immigrants etc irrespective of where they are from or how much they know. It has actually helped me as a person and also the one who needs support. But certainly, it's not just the problem of the person coming here on visa, it's the entire system including immigration, transport industry & employers not providing adequate training before starting the work.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

So very true. Great to hear you like to impart your knowledge.

[@AlexJacksonSmith]

I missed this video in my feed, so now I understand the comment in the last video. I think there will be a mix of people. Some will be upset that their jobs are "outsourced" so will see inexperience as a method of doing that group down; others will be more mature, like yourself, and will want them to be safe. (After all you don't want the roads blocked or laws made that make your job more difficult.) The attitude of people does influence the mood and cooperation. Your older video on how you started and got into trucking probably influences your tolerance and acceptance of others...! If you do videos you could get an Indian (especially if there is one or two in your company) to take it and "dub" it in their native language or even their version of English, and title it appropriately, that way it would be found when they search! You could also have a "WhatsApp" group for drivers willing to help and invite the Indians to join when you see them at truck stops...??? That way they can ask knowing the people there are not going to bite their head off or make them feel foolish. Or you could have a X/Twitter account?? 🤷‍♂ Alex.,

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Thanks Alex. I like those ideas. I just don't want to over-commit myself to too much. Your ideas are something is life to get going somehow.

[@AlexJacksonSmith]

@@RoadTrainAdventures I understand. One option that would not over commit but could help, if only to show solidarity and good feeling, is a "logo" and sticker that could go on a cab if the driver is prepared to help?

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yeah I see

[@darshparmar7679]

I found it odd the RTA knowledge test can be done multiple languages,how we could assess a drivers ability to follow instructions if a basic English is not understood.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yes. I get people on Facebook asking me for a job when they live in another country but more to the point, they have trouble typing in English. How would they get around in a truck if they can't speak the language?

[@kyal4130]

I'm learning how to restrain loads atm as I'm a yardie at a local mob in Forbes NSW I'm going for my HR license within the next month. And I think some Indians r great drivers they don't have the experience like we do but at least they're having a go which is great in my opinion

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Oh yeah for sure. If they want to learn then they're half way there.

[@kyal4130]

@@RoadTrainAdventures yeah that's right

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Awesome

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

@kyal4130 👍

[@kyal4130]

@@RoadTrainAdventures yeah hopefully I'll be a good interstate truck driver

[@whatstrue1481]

The problem stems from the enormously different driving culture that exists between India and Australia. We are all a product of the environment we grow up in and for anyone that has spent time in India it is no surprise that the Indians have a very different attitude towards driving and safety and exhibit a very different skill level because this is the culture and environment they grew up in. Its not their fault its just what they know. For someone who has spent a lot of time in India it scares me that Indian drivers seem to be so easily able to get behind the wheel of an enormous Australian truck. Even if they are taught the skills to actually drive it how do you change a life time of cultural attitude?

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yes cultural attitude. I never thought of that aspect.

[@paulowens5012]

One Blood , one people , humanity , help your brethren , help if you can , if not leave them with IT

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

For sure

[@ctiley2212]

The problem, as you said in the clip is that they will not seek help and have been thrown in the deep end by being able to get MC licences with no experience at all, and very dodgy "qualifications". My issue is that the danger that they present to the rest of the motoring public is extreme, and that also involves the rest of the transport industry. Why do not Australian employers make the industry suitable and attractive to locally grown drivers these days and then they wouldn't have to employ the imports who destroy their trucks and drive away customers. I recently saw a near new Frightliner which had a hole cut in the floor so the foreign sourced driver and his offsiders could go to the toilet without stopping. Imagine what the poor mechanic servicing the truck found when he went to work on it - I wouldn't work on it, that's for sure.

[@tsunamis82]

When I visited Australia it was the Vietnamese immigrants that were the Aussie race baiting target. One said they even piss in the gutters. I said the reminded me of a bus load of Aussie rugby fans! No reply. Oh, the Chinese were ok, because they had a load of money, sent their kids to good schools and had nice houses. Your comment suggests they defecate in the hole. Have you any evidence for this?

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yeah the lack of experience is real. I remember seeing that photo year's ago. Not sure how real that was though.

[@reginaldhowell2261]

Reminds me of a story I head from a old bloke who drove in the sixties for a WA company ,either Brambles or Gascoige Traders they had two poms share the driving of a truck ,while they were friendly and reliable and kept the truck ship shape they seemed to wear engines out ,like a quarter of the expected engine hours one day a mechanic was looking over moter and found a air fitting on the intake manifold than he found a air hose In the cab and a hole in the floor which the air hose would fit ! ,these two would hook the hose up and hoover the dust on the floor as they were driving along !hence the clean truck ! So silliness like this has always been around .R

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Interesting story and no doubt it's true. I remember Gascoyne Traders. Wow that was a long time ago. I thought they were in Geraldton.

[@ctiley2212]

@@RoadTrainAdventures they were in the end part of Wesfarmers (now owners of Coles, KMart, Bunnings and many other entities) so they were statewide.

[@garyquelch888]

Bro when you see a b double driving down the Hume with 3 blown tyres and an Indian behind the wheel you have to ask the question do they understand road safety rules

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Ha ha. I don't know what to say about that. It is crazy.

[@glennbrown1961]

They pay for a licence without learning how to operate a truck. There is more to the trucking industry than driving a automatic transmission equipped truck from point a to b, with google maps help. This needs to be addressed in my opinion. There is big problems coming in a lot of industries, not just transport. There are HUGE numbers of workers being bought into OZ because they will work cheap, won't question bullshit and get the job done...in a fashion! Its a worry!

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

You are very right

[@ken_worth]

Wow John i am fascinated with you, you are a very good man with a very big heart. I watched a video you helped two Indian drivers, I loved how you dealed with them. You are a very good old school driver. Here in Europe exists the same problem, we have many drivers from other countries and unfortunately here is much xenophobia and racism. I am very sad about. I am always friendly, polite and respectful with foreign drivers and so they are very happy that I don't have preconceptions against them. I never had bad experience with foreign drivers, they all like me and respect me. I help them and they help me. It's so easy if someone want 🙂👍 I hope my English is more or less correct 😀

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yeah you have a great attitude. Don't lose that. Always have a soft heart, ready to help others.

[@ken_worth]

@@RoadTrainAdventures awesome, thank you John, stay safe

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

You too

[@holdenman8850]

Hi Johnno.. where in mildy do you get your bangers and mash from?

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Sorry that is Madura in WA.

[@holdenman8850]

@@RoadTrainAdventures ahh will be a bit cold by the time it gets here 😂

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

That's what microwaves are for. Come on over.

[@holdenman8850]

@@RoadTrainAdventures that's the tucka fucka 😂 hey WA is on the bucket list mate

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

👍

[@DavidToohey-f5n]

Biggest problem is they don't have a uhf on or don't listen to it

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Most are listening to music so they might miss the call on the radio.

[@ashleyflint3501]

Sad thing here is that every one forgets that they had no experience either when they left school, but somewhere along the line we all met or worked with someone who took us under their arm and either showed us or guided us. Unfortunately there are arseholes out there who do know everything except one thing and that is that they are a c t. It took a good friend a week before I got the knack on how to ty down a loaded truck with different hitches. Good people know that every day you learn different things and better or worse ways to do the job. A work mate once told me I was a born loser, but he always helped me. Perhaps we should consider this to the new breed truck drivers.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Very good

[@76guzzi78]

1. They dont have to do a practicle driving test when they come here. 2. They are not used to the high tonnages that road trains here carry, therefore place extreme dynamics on the configuration when travelling downhill, braking, cornering etc... 3.they all have a hellbent attitude on get it there as quick as they can, get unloaded and get another load 4. Most of them will not listen to advice from other drivers. ( i have personally seen two grain road trains tip over after the driver was spoken to by several other drivers about cornering too fast.....) 5. They are reckless with tailgating, overtaking dangerously and have no care for other motorists, car drivers included

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Wow. I have to say that I've seen all your points in reality. This is no good.

[@DirkSilverwolfLinnemann]

Thanks also for this video, Johnno! In general, it is a bit difficult for us here to judge your situation in Australia if, like me, you have never been there. Nevertheless, I think it is good to help in principle when help is needed. Whether the help is rewarded at the end of the day is always another matter, of course...

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Thanks Dirk. I find the Indians are often very thankful. They know the reputation they have and tell me that they are often afraid to ask for help in case they're yelled at or abused.

[@DirkSilverwolfLinnemann]

One more reason to offer help 👍@@RoadTrainAdventures

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

👍

[@WayneCook306]

Hi Johnno, I know you are trying to be diplomatic but do not you and I both know what these people are like in transport, and if you have ever watched their training up north in a certain truck stop on the Qld NSW border they can not even back a prime mover between the lines let alone a trailer or B-Double 👍👍👍👍

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yes Wayne. Surely they will get better with experience.

[@casper8671]

Forget about truckdriving for a second and let's just talk about drivers. People always say training, training,training and education yet the situation with drivers ATTITUDES still is no better and getting worse. Governments think that by doing 120 hours behind the wheel will give them adequate experience. Driving with mum and dad for 100 hours learning their bad habits will give them experience. What EVERYONE FAILS TO SEE is that for 16 years these kids have been in the backseat of mum and dads car and watched and learned from their bad ATTITUDES and we expect these kids to unlearn 16 years of parents questionable attitudes towards driving. (We are all guilty including me). The issue with ALLL drivers isn't their skill or lack there of, it is their attitudes towards driving. And that goes to driving cars and trucks. Now you bring in an influx of drivers who also have their attitudes towards driving from the way they have been brought up. It is not about skill it is about attitude! Attitude means that you recognise your limitations and potential lack of skill. People need to slow down and learn properly through experience and education. I have never had any driving instruction for cars, motorbikes or trucks but I new my limitations and sometimes I was scared shitless but knowing my limits I am still here today. So EVERYONE change your attitudes remember none of us knew anything at the start, be willing to share knowledge rather than standing back and backstabbing people. This is a dangerous job and unless you are helping others to learn and to do the job better YOU are missing the chance to make someone else a better driver so we can all get home safely.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

You are so right. Soak up things from the right people. Learn and watch.

[@chrismckell5353]

That is some good points raised there, if I see someone struggling with driving, loading or directions I'll help them or if I can't I'll suggest to them someone who can.

[@ronnie9103]

They need to do it the Australian ways and also learn the language!

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

For sure

[@benwilliamdownes]

I wonder how much of it is an "Indian" thing versus just a rigorous training thing John? Australia is known to have some of the most hostile land in the world regarding the true outback of this beautiful country of ours, so if the training isn't up to par, then it doesn't matter what the culture is, there's gonna be dramas there. I don't know actually know how rigorous the training actually is regarding this industry but it would be really interesting to see more on that, because I feel like that's likely to be at the heart of the problem looking from the outside in?

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Well when I got my license, they gave me no training either. They just showed me how to connect and drive the truck

[@benwilliamdownes]

@@RoadTrainAdventures Given how big your truck and trailer combo generally is, along with the rest of them, with no real training then, does the industry need to look at that first then ?

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yeah I think so

[@philipdenner8504]

I certainly have nothing against them but if it is experience, how did they get a MC licence.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

I understand they transfer their Indian truck license over.

[@philipdenner8504]

Well surely thats wrong as i have never seen a road train in India.@@RoadTrainAdventures

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

I hear you but it's how some day they got their license

[@nograndplan]

It's on the employer when any new employee isn't up to scratch.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

For sure

[@peterstaggs1956]

IMHO the ability of drivers has diminished due to the current low standard of driving testing. I have been told many drivers carrying overseas license are valid in Australia and this has lowered the standard in Australia. Came home only tonight in an Uber and I felt he sped the whole way home, only a 12 min trip on google maps and he took 11 minutes.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yeah I hear you. I remember not learning much about trucks when I did my lessons and test. It was just a driving test and nothing about the mechanics.

[@jessehalper]

Back in 82 day 1and I was on vic dock Melbourne picking up pallets of fabric. I didn't know the truckie hitch and had no idea about tarping a load. I asked and got the help i needed. But Australia is a racist country by any large so it doesn't surprise me that the newbies won't ask. Having said that I was hit on a roundabout by an indian owner driver last year and there was no way he would admit fault. We had to submit pics of the damage to explain his version of events was fiction. Would I help a newbie now? Yes.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

It's great to hear that you're still holding a good attitude which is hard after having a bad experience.

[@jessehalper]

There is good and bad everywhere. I would rather be part of the solution than the prob

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Very good

[@TerryToon17]

If the trucking industry does not bother to educate the Indian drivers, then the existing drivers will (as John suggests) have to, it will mean a better and safer working environment for all.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

That's my hope anyway.

[@bh.boilers]

Hello John, I hit the lke button halfway through, would hit it again if I could, excellent discussion. Ray.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Ha ha. Thanks Ray

[@stevenloynds3691]

I'll admit it when I first started I put myself in some pretty stupid situations and I'll tell ya why because in NSW you can obtain your HR licence on your green provisional licence you then only have to hold the HR licence for a year after you can go for your MC licence, that's it easy as a 2 day course and potentially you can find employment and wheel these vehicles. You either have it or you don't it's the people that don't that worry me out there with zero experience other then 2 days at school. So i know how easy it is to find yaself in a pickle for me if I needed any advice and not get embarrassed I friended an admin fellow on those Facebook truckn group pages. Don't be afraid to ask I got ripped on the page so that's when I reached out to admin he was always willing to help me out with anything related.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Great to hear it worked out in the end. Yes some people on Facebook are not very helpful. Maybe I should start a Facebook group where truckies who are new to the scene can litteraly ask anything. No question will be considered as stupid.

[@craigoOZ]

counting caravans, they are everywhere! The runner, wow, a temporary Australian doing that.😂

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

To be honest there weren't as many caravans as usual. There are more and more runners and bicyclists on this highway.

[@ranasneed451]

We have the same problem here in America.

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yes I've heard. No good

[@ehsan848]

Great 👍👍good luck

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Awesome. Thanks again

[@ehsan848]

@@RoadTrainAdventures 🙏🙏

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

@ehsan848 👍

[@Brad_The_Truckie]

You’d have to word it right so there was no way liability came back on you for telling someone to do something one way in a video and they do it and stuff up. The biggest issue I see is not having half a crisp on English, they can’t communicate on the uhf and either turn it off or speak in Indian. I understand why the sets off, as soon as they do say something 4 guys are into them straight away

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yes you're very right there.

[@louiskats5116]

Good day Johno, Great video Great topic. The way I see it like it or lump it Australia needs Indian Truck Drivers, & African & Asians & New Zealanders & whatever we can get our hands on. Population is growing, Australia is just one big warehouse of imports needing to be moved from A to B. I have a 21 & 24 year old son's. Both in the Transport game became like you I love this industry. My 24 year old is a Transport Manager in charge of 110 subbies mostly Indians & my 21 year old drives forklifts packing unpacking steel coils into containers. No WASP ( White Anglo Saxon Protestant ) wants to be a truck driver, bus driver, forkie, they want the office job. As you & me are a dying breed & the last of the legends who can drive a combo with a Roadranger. I have another 6 years in me before I hopefully retire in SE Asia with my partner. At the wharf I call all my fellow truck drivers " Brothers " & willing to help if asked or not. We are all human & it is better to be kind & understanding & tolerant & offer constructive advice than join the hoard of ignorant bigots who take great joy in belittling other because of race, colour & religion. Where is the Aussie fair go. I say the more the merrier. Just my opinion from a old war horse of the truckie fraternity. Cheers Louis Kats 👍

[@RoadTrainAdventures]

Yeah thanks again Louis. They are hard workers which is great. Once they gain experience and knowledge they will be a great asset to a company.