The INEOS GRENADIER in Our Driveway / S4-Ep23

In this episode, we get a visit from our Friend Edgar, who shows us his brand new Ineos Grenadier which he just picked up one hour earlier at the dealer. The car had 115 km on the clock and here he was...
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[@DiHandley]

Those low hanging cables would last 10 minutes in the Australian bush… even in my driveway there would be problems! What a fantastic machine Christian. Don’t you want one too! 😂😂🇦🇺

[@stuarth43]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKepXoVthb2BjZo&ab_channel=Harry%27sFarm, i pass

[@BerlietGBC]

I love the way Christian inspected everything carefully 😊

[@jmpersonal2402]

G'day to all... I have already spoken with my dealer - My request is to "REMOVE the locking nuts before delivery"... Have you ever been somewhere and you need the keys... Supposed to be there... but nope!!! Twice I have had to get locks broken to replace tyres! It's funny as both were Volkswagen... I swear it is the dudes in the tyre shops who lose them!! Love the videos - its grand to see like minded people.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

I also bought cars with the key missing. What a unnecessary debacle. Agreed. It’s the guys in the tire shop 😂😂😂. Christian

[@obertan_1]

@@notrut > They're a damn nuisance on any vehicle ... Hopefully they are for the thieves as well. ;-) I've not yet decided how to deal with that.

[@haanjamiis]

This episode is too short! But viele gruesse to Edgar for beeing brave and showing his brand new car to Christian (and us).

[@obertan_1]

My visit was a surprise which stole Vera&Christian some time for their regular plans. My fault. ;-)

[@AdeptHavelock]

Edgar is a man after my own heart. He has 2 existing cars which are both 37 years old...ours are only 18 and 20...would love to know what he currently drives. This is the best and only way to look after the environment.

[@obertan_1]

I have a yr 2000 Merc W203 estate @300'000 km, a Diesel. Runs like a charm, but sadly starts to rust (doors and fenders only, no critical parts). My wife has a 2008 Merc R171 @120'000 km. Optically and technically very good, although we have to refill A/C and to repair the vent which is noisy and doesn't work on the passenger side.

[@aaron___6014]

Hear hear!

[@TheGalifrey]

He said collectively 37 years old, yours are "only" collectively 38 years old, ie older 😉

[@AdeptHavelock]

@Coach Life You're correct...he did say, "both together". Looks like I win 😂

[@alexp893]

I own 5 German cars with a combined age of 107 🥳

[@stephendawson9947]

Edgar, thank you for allowing Christian and Vera to share this with us, not quite a land rover, lucky for you! Safe driving and good luck.

[@jdenmark1287]

You are absolutely killing me with the French Pierre jokes. 😅

[@tobychristian4741]

Funny. I didn't realise the Germans also liked to poke at the French for fun.

[@simon-mouse8739]

Ok I'll admit it, I sniffed in when you asked the viewers to smell the engine 😂 really surprised about the lack of an underbody tray, even a plastic one. Terrible turning circle but at least he's now been off road 👍

[@Lordoftheflatbush]

And its heavy…2700kg without extra’s. I thought my LR4 was heavy…..

[@andrewmarkland9411]

The 10:05 Uri Geller moment is magical. This needs to be a feature of the channel!

[@TheDaf95xf]

Good morning Christian & Vera 😊 That was so kind of Edgar to bring round his IG for your approval 👍🏻 Nice seeing Christian so smart and clean 🤣 It just shows you how somebody who works on LR as much as you can find small faults on new vehicles lol 😆 IG should invite you to the factory so you can point out these small but important issues before they get vehicles returning because some stupid wire has pulled apart off road 😮 Poor Vera couldn’t even look 👀 at the engine bay 😟 Anyway as always a fantastic Sunday morning video with my brew before work. Big kiss for Vera ❤xx

[@Pandora882]

Standard open ended nut = 32g Original closed cap nut = 74g Locking wheel nut = 84g Just for your balancing information Christian they could have put the lock nut opposite the valve couldn't they .

[@einfelder8262]

There's not enough gyro force that close to the hub centre for the wheel nut to affect balance. You get more imbalance when you pick up a stone in the tread. Putting the lock nut opposite the valve doesn't make any difference, the wheel is balanced with the valve in place, so it doesn't matter where the lock nut is.

[@Pandora882]

@@einfelder8262 I know Cristian is a balancing expert that why I supplied the nit weights .

[@Vera_and_Christian]

@@einfelder8262 If the weight difference is 10 grams x 75 mm radius , then 75 gmm of unbalance is introduced by this nut. The balance tolerance of a brake disk rotor for example in a modern vehicle like this is 180 gmm. So this nut is eventually equivalent to a out-of-spec brake disk rotor. And that is not correct - not on a high price vehicle like this. The reason for low balance specs in the road wheel drive line is the high autobahn speed. At 180 kmh you feel 75 gmm (on 4 wheels), especially if they vectorially line up with the residual unbalnce of the brake rotor and the wheel. I do build production drive line balance machines for a living and do KZbin as a hobby. Christian

[@Pandora882]

@@Vera_and_Christian Thank you for the factual reply Christian I thought it was the other way around you did KZbin as a living and the production drive line balance machines as a hobby.Regards to you both from England we are not bothered about the flags.

[@einfelder8262]

@@Vera_and_Christian Grenadier top speed is listed as 160kph, no-one will drive it flat out for extended times, even on an autobahn, and never at 180kph, especially not on Ko2 which is max rated at 180kph. While I completely agree that the fitment of wheel nuts is very French, it is not a deal breaker for the vehicle's designed use. The imbalance would not be noticed on the Qoodnadatta track even when it's in good condition and you can get to 100kph. You're going to pick up much more mud on the inside of the rim when you hit the muddy bits (almost always encountered) than a slightly heavier wheel nut.

[@markwinter7511]

I'm a dinosaur I'll admit. Watching these vids on these modern vehicles with all their bells and whistles always kind of explains to me why I just bought a LC 79 with a 1HZ to boot. Goes up and down and round the farm endlessly without all these crazy complications to deal with.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Fully logical 👍. Christian

[@obertan_1]

Thank you, Christian+Vera! A very nice video. 👍♥ Humorous as always, something was fixed, and some interesting findings as well. A real LR Time Sunday Video. 🙂

[@AW-Services]

"Ever since you touched my ineos grenadier" Happy travels Edgar another awesome Sunday instalment of German comedy and varied content. Happy Sunday, everyone

[@Vera_and_Christian]

😅He hasn't come back yet for any complains. 👍🙋‍♀️Vera

[@Oliver_996]

Solihull must be full of Pierres! 😂

[@t4mor4]

Well done Edgar for bringing this to LR Time, and nice to see a poke around the Grenadier without the censors limiting the video footage. The cables don’t look great but a handful of cable ties should fix that, then I guess your looking at a vehicle which will last a very long time. You won’t have a KZbin channel based on repairing Grenadiers Christian 😂

[@Wolfie387]

She's a wee beauty Edgar. The addition of a couple of bash-plates will protect the underbody. A Great buy, British design, German engineering...however' there's always 1-fly in the ointment..assembled by the French..😅. Enjoy your new Grenadier..🇩🇪🇬🇧🛠🥃

[@hedydd2]

You are most lucky to get that as a ‘commercial vehicle’. In the UK it has to be fitted with steel panels instead of the rear side windows plus the compromised rear seats but, most critically, a 1000kg+ payload. The Grenadier falls down badly on that last point and therefore does not qualify for VAT or tax concessions in the UK. As a consequence I have cancelled my Grenadier order and have ordered another Ford Ranger pickup for collection next month some time. My business is VAT qualified and I do use the vehicle mostly for business and after claiming the VAT back on Ranger [not legal on GrenadierUK] there is a full £25,000 cost saving with the Ranger. There is more passenger room in the Ranger than the ‘commercial’ Grenadier and for right hand drive, a far more comfortable driving position with no cheese slice in the floor. The bed has an electric cover and it can carry a ton and pull a three point five trailer. It can also be run as in four wheel drive on road but it locks the centre diff in low range by default unfortunately. Similar power to weight ratio even though the Ranger has only a 2.0 diesel engine. It may surprise some but the ride and handling of the latest Ranger is very acceptable and unlike traditional pickups of this type while the steering is rack and pinion and great on and off-road. Remember I already have one Ranger and have run it hard for nine years already

[@Cous1nJack]

Enjoy waving at the tens of rangers you see every time you go out. You don’t have to buy one but this guy did.

[@hedydd2]

@@Cous1nJack My vehicle is not a toy. It has to work and it is a cost I would rather do without. It has to be fit for purpose and economically viable. In the UK, the Grenadier ‘commercial’ does not qualify as a commercial vehicle for tax purposes due to its rather small payload. If it did qualify, the order would not have been cancelled as I was willing to pay up to a £10k premium. A UK £25k premium is ridiculous though and puts the UK Grenadier ‘commercial’ five seater with reduced rear legroom, reduced speed limit and panelled sides at a similar price point to a full spec Defender X HSE. No contest if that was the kind of vehicle I wanted. The Defender wins easily. Obviously rules are different in Germany, assuming people have actually checked with their tax authority.

[@M0RMY]

I have a 2 seat N1 utility wagon with full rear windows -it is just an option to tick on the configurator.

[@hedydd2]

@@M0RMY Not in the UK it’s not. It just isn’t. To satisfy UK’s tax office HMRC, the rear sides MUST be blanked off and the payload must exceed 1000kgs. Even the DVLA licensing authority as distinct from tax authority, will not allow a vehicle to have commercial status fully glazed, otherwise there would be many glazed vans and Land Rover would not bother with their ‘commercial’ [Hardtop they call them] Defender variants. They do not and cannot make fully glazed five seat versions be commercial vehicles.

[@simonfrench]

In France it’s the opposite no tax at all on commercial Grenadier 50% on 4 door pickups so Grenadier works out cheaper.

[@johnnyknap]

How kind of Edgar to show you his Grenadier. He took his broken connector very well. Nice smelling engine. Love the British German flag, think I’ll get one to annoy Brexiteers.

[@struanrobertson3417]

The British German flag is a very nice touch 👍

[@rogerstarkey5390]

It's the correct way up as well.

[@joanbrown9376]

All the more ironic that Jim Ratcliffe is a UK tax-dodging (Monaco resident) Brexiteer......

[@johnmelling9950]

I'm a Brexiteer and it doesn't annoy me in the slightest. Beats having the EU flag on there.

[@thecrankster]

@@johnmelling9950 You’re a brexiteer…🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮

[@lindsayrixon7402]

Great spotting Christian re the wiring. In 2016 we were coming south from Cape York on a very remote track and my friend in his brand new Toyota 200 series had a stick flick up and took out the r/h DPF wiring and damaged the DPF itself. The instrument panel was a Christmas tree 🎄 all the coloured lights you could dream of, but it still drove so we kept going the 1000k’s to Cairns. The fix was $1200 at the dealer and there were 2 engineers from Tojo Japan there at the time to evaluate problems with off roading the 200, we believe they learned something. My 07, 76Series doesn’t have DPF’S 👍🏿 Keep up the great work guys, your videos are first class. Love from OZ 🇦🇺

[@Platypus-Dreams]

12 minutes is definitely not enough LR Time. We need an extra long episode next week. I don't think we even got one "oh my god"

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Ok, Next week I try to get 30 minutes and 5 OMGs. Christian

[@obertan_1]

@@Vera_and_Christian 🤣

[@jimjam623]

Finally - the underbody tour we’ve all been waiting for! Danke Edgar! 🎊 🎉 🎊 Definitely a nominee for ‘Most Edutaining YT Video of the Year for improving Cultural Ties Over Sunday Morning Cornflakes’ 😉 Keep up the great work LRTime! 😎

[@obertan_1]

The credit goes to Christian. He made the video and cut and commented it.

[@jeffreywilkinson2679]

Thank you Team LRTime. Very nice of Edgar to swing by with his new wheels.

[@kevinbarry71]

Great video. Looking forward to his return with a more complete assessment

[@biz4twobiz463]

Wow!! Now that is an awesome RIG!! Congrats Edgar!! Many miles of fun. Merci

[@MacPoop]

You know what's funny, and has absolutely nothing to do with this particular video? I've been watching y'all for so long now that I cant get all the way through a full day's work worth of turning wrenches without at least one job narrated in a German accent! Happy sunday :)

[@doneB830]

It’s only the recycling ball steering box that bothers me on this wonderful car. I almost ordered one if it wasnt for this. Thanks for the wonderfull show.

[@markbielawski]

Excellent job with that complicated repair, Christian! 😊 Cool ride, Edgar. I certainly agree that some skid plates will be in order for that beast. Cheers!

[@dolguldur4706]

Its good to hear they still offer diesel engine...not only petrol..🤘🏻

[@hughmarcus1]

Pity it’s the wrong diesel though. 😉

[@highwayman1769]

Thank You both for this. I’m going to take the French sticker off mine now!

[@LionTheHeart]

Lovely video and you are both very humorous .. Nice man with the Grenadier I love the smell of my Sport every time I get in. Amazed that such a vehicle with have those exposed cables!

[@andreasdidik3772]

Wow, that IS a big car! Your Discovery looks small. Nice though 👍🏼❤ Somehow, I am more interested in Edgar's and your explaination regarding with the tight 2nd seat space in relation with tax (utility vehicle rule). This maybe explained why my old car, Opel Blazer DOHC LT, had the 2nd seat so tight, while it has much more cargo space behind. Maybe. Cheers, AD.

[@obertan_1]

It's easy: If it has an "N1" categorization in the car documents, it's an "LKW", if this is "M1" it is a passenger car (higher tax). The categorization is, as Christian explained, dependent on the ratio between cargo- and passenger-space and is a fixed parameter from the maker, i.e. INEOS. The Grenadier "Utility" version is in Germany an "N1" category. By "Verordnung", the authorities do not any more have the option of a personal assessment of the nature / look and fell of the car (Anmutung ...) but are bindingly obliged to what is printed in the car documents. The N1 version thus has the rear seats installed more forward ny some centimeters (some say seven, others say nine). The mounting threads for the more aft position are unused in the utility (but exist).

[@ccconlan2670]

ITS LR TIME😊😊😊 what a fantastic vehicle and very kind of edgar to make you's his first visit.i have to say i still prefare my discovery 😊😊😊😊

[@obertan_1]

It was just a pleasure. I like it very much to be there. 🙂

[@ccconlan2670]

They are very nice people😄😄😄

[@completeoutdoors1]

Absolutely loved the video, what fun and Edgar seems like a really nice guy. I need to visit Germany again, I visited the Allgau Alps over a few years doing numerous Klettersteig's when I was younger and loved every minute and the people were fantastisch 👏

[@barrieneill410]

Looks great. Edgar, well done on taking the plunge and thank you for sharing. I loved the drivers door design feature - I don’t think anyone closed it first time without a second go with a slam. Defender styling / feature.

[@alexshapley8331]

👍 very interesting - thanks to all three of you.

[@Unclemiffato100]

I think Now’s the time to rust protect the underneath!

[@rolandsuch]

Good epidode. I have worked in the automotive industry for over 30 years, and I would never buy a new model in it's first year of series production from any manufacturer. The Grenadier is a new model, Ineos are new to building cars and the Hambach factory has been completely overhauled and refurbished following the take over by Ineos from Smart. In addition, I don’t know where Edgar purchased his Grenadier, but a lot of the dealers are also new to the new car business. Regardless of how much testing and development work was carried out, there are bound to be teething problems! Land Rover had over 50 years experience when the Disco 3 and 4 were new!

[@rickbyrne7631]

Looking forward to Christian's review after the test drive

[@sanatandharma4435]

The fact that it looks like a LR 110 Defender is enough for me. However, the Discovery LR 3 is equally as beautiful and is considerbaly cheaper. If the Discovery costs you money in maintenance it will still be significantly cheaper! My money goes to the Discovery. I do however, acknoweldge that the Grenadier will carve out a niche for itself and I wish it all the best!

[@hughmarcus1]

Not so much it seems. After all the pre orders have been filled, their dealers can’t shift the demo models.

[@oliverallen5324]

I hope for everyone that the vehicle does hold up to expectations. 80k$ for a vehicle that could go 1M kilometers is a good bargain if you're thinking that far ahead.

[@seanlewis34]

Have to say I will reserve judgement on the Grenadier until I see one at 10 years old after being used by a Scottish hill farmer.

[@radupopdacian]

Maybe you die till then...

[@R.Sole88109]

Congrats Edgar. Danke for letting Christian and Vera give one of the best reviews of the GrenaDEAR(my name for it😜🇬🇧) I've seen so far. Nearly 2mil km testing, built on purpose...and they've done stupid things like that 08:45😆 Congratulations to Ineos. They've built it like a modern Land Rover, expensive and going to turn GrenaDEAR owners into mechanics.😂 Christian, put another locking wheel nut opposite the current one and it should balance out and make the criminal work for your wheels. Hopefully long enough for you to notice and give the criminal, work related injuries 🤜🏻🦝🤛🏻✊🏻🤣 For vehicle security it's best to have defence in depth. If it's a pain in the arse to fitted all the security, it'll be a pain for the thief to defeat all of them!.

[@secpac58chichi]

I have a '96 D1 SD I bought new - has 105K miles now - just did the head gaskets - I like the D1 - I got the cheapest one I could find in No. California - no sunroofs manual seats with cloth no rear package - it has automatic which I feel I needed because of so much traffic in CA. - this was a great video - hope Grenadier is watching this and will go back to the drawing board on those cabling issues.

[@lieberfreialsgleich]

great french car! I love it. can you imagine, some month ago, they build Smarts in the same factory

[@froggy0162]

That one has the steering wheel on the wrong side of course, but at least it doesn’t have legroom problems for the driver. I would be interested if you crawl under it again to look again at the route of the exhaust manifold and if you think it can be modified to allow the footrest problem in right hand drive cars to be fixed?

[@andeanrider6355]

I will keep my Disco 2. That truck would not last 5 minutes here in Bolivia. Thanks for the video.

[@dubbeh]

I live by a showroom, said coming soon for a while now, nice to see them out there

[@svenomick5857]

Looks Good You are spot on about the sticks in the bush the wires hanging down. Great site cheers Mick Australia.

[@dannyotter7247]

Really interesting to have a look underneath - such a shame a few bash plates would resolved those low cables etc

[@kevint7851]

👌👌👌👍..... Nice one Edgar. It doesn't take long for Christian to find a few FAULTS. Wait till he gets a proper examination😱😱😱.

[@sweetfreedomGB]

Well at least Edgar doesn't have the RHD footwell issue

[@OrdinaryJoe12]

The under body inspection was hilarious

[@TantersD3]

The good thing to know is that if you get the raised air intake, it covers up that stupid badge 😅

[@dolguldur4706]

One design flaw with that rear back door is you need to open the small left side first before opening the bigger right side..if you dont put swing arm rear bar,theres no way you can put bigger tyre because it gonna block the small left side opening..hope they can fix that without is needing to buy swing arm rear bumper

[@peopleschamp7258]

There is already an aftermarket part that allows you to put a larger tire on. Currently you can put a 33 on without an adaptor. There is already testing being done on a spring lift kit that gets 35. Then there is already a prototype portal kit allowing 37 and 40.

[@dolguldur4706]

@@peopleschamp7258 good to hear that...but i still think their rear door is design flaw...imo..same like new defender when theres no way to put front winch..

[@Cous1nJack]

No winch on new defender. Not true.

[@Simon_W74]

When they did the Grenadier release for the UK a few of the Trade Journalist found that some of the fit and finish wasn't as good as they were expecting for a Vehicle that had a high price tag. Hopefully those oversights during the various inspection are not a sign of things to come. As it is I would have one over the thing that Land Rover are trying to say is a Defender now, which is just another Snobs play toy that the nearest it will ever get to being of road is mounting the Kerb of going into a drive, or if it is lucky a grass field that is pretty smooth going.

[@smev4341]

Great vid, nice to point the errors on the IG. You must get one and do stuff on it.

[@robinireland810]

A particularly exciting and unexpected episode, if a little short. I’m expecting my Grenadier sometime In September (scheduled build date is July, and I’m told it takes 6-8wks from production to collection), so I was very interested to hear your initial thoughts and impressions. Agreed about those dreadful locking wheel nuts. That’s a waste of £65 for a set of wheels that only a Grenadier owner is likely to steal. The exposed cabling underneath definitely looks like it needs some attention. Hopefully cable ties and heat shrink wrap my tidy them up a bit. Looking forward to a more in depth and hopefully full length episode on the Grenadier, so I can fully enjoy my bowl of ice cream and fresh English Strawberries.

[@robinireland810]

@@johncolley3317 Definitely needs looking in to. However, before writing off the vehicle as dead in the water, I’d want a better look myself and see where the exact positioning of those wires are and what they’re for. It’s all too easy to jump to conclusions, and regardless what the naysayers preach, I’d also be taking into account what Magna Steyr and the rest of the design team have produced and why. For a company responsible for the Pinzgauer, Unimog, Hafflinger and numerous other off road projects, I’d be more than surprised if they suddenly decide, “leave those wires dangling Helmutt, they’ll be fine!”

[@wodanowitz]

Great Wall Motors Tank 300 .. selled sucessfull in Australia 36.000 Euros up ... also 3 Lockers! Ineos was first priced 38.000 up and now it is more than twice the price 😅😅😅

[@dodweld]

Thanks LR Time and Edgar. So glad I didn’t put my money down to order one - Although it’s a nice car

[@Poppageno]

Thanks to Edgar for stopping by and letting us see what we are missing.........

[@Jake-hw9kp]

The way you say "safari windows" made my day 🤣

[@raycollington4310]

Harry's Farm was a bit harsh about this vehicle. I say it's job one, so there's bound to be development opportunities. I wish this vehicle and the team behind it good luck. Thank you.

[@atavachron27]

Harry is a Landrover guy and he couldn't be objective, which was rather disappointing. I expected more of him!

[@Colinpark]

Congrats for your friend, I missed seeing one in my area as I was away that day. I like them, but would wait a year for the 2nd year model (If I had the money). Fully agree on your assessments. They should hire you to do a full tear down assessment.

[@RichieRouge206]

Great review of the Grenadier. They are cool but there is too much tech. You guys are awesome

[@chrisbolton5461]

Brilliant video. Great humour too.

[@hughmarcus1]

The first ad that comes up in the video was for the new Defender 😆

[@Vera_and_Christian]

😂😂😂 lol. Well, I think I have not seen a Grenadier add. Christian

[@dipladonic]

'Turning circle'...one of the most underrated things about the Discovery 3 and 4.

[@mustafajoseph134]

Great great video. So hilarious about the wheel balancing section. Lol

[@southhillfarm2795]

Big vehicle. Congrats to Edgar.

[@Edd5hott79]

Am looking forward to your review. Mine has not entered build yet, so hopefully 'Pierre' doesn't go on strike for the summer holidays! Underbody is something that I am looking to get sorted..

[@Thedar561]

The wheel locking nut is not so nobody steals the rims, it’s an upsell for the dealer. Parts sell the locks nuts to the service and service charge to fit them 💰

[@mukwanofred9147]

This car was built on purpose. Wish u the best. Some of us will have to wait for the price to go down.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

New car price will go up likely. Used cars will take forever to drop. Like the new Defender. Not available used. Christian

[@johnmcphee2201]

fantastic looking vehicle.

[@mikeboone4425]

Nice visit with edger and his new toy , But I can't enjoy my sunday morning coffee with you working on your toy. Happy Trails.

[@josephgittos3787]

Congrats Edgar and great to see you think of this great channel to visit first. Poor French nobody seems to want the flag lol.

[@royrcf]

it looks better on your video than other videos I have seen , I would like one.

[@Pyjamarama11]

They are happy new car owners I hope the Grenadier keeps grins on their faces. I am very interested to see how reliable it will be.

[@robinireland810]

Update from my previous comment. I finally had a proper test drive in a Grenadier today, on various roads, from twisty country lanes, A roads, dual carriageway and finally motorway. The drive exceeded my expectations; smooth and quiet, as well as plenty of acceleration from the Diesel engine. We spent a good hour driving around, stopping & starting as well as going through all the controls and features. Before going out and whilst waiting for my authorised Grenadier rep to finish his phone call, I crawled under the display model in the showroom and looked for the loose wires hanging down that you pointed out. There was nothing there that I could find that in any way looked like it might cause a problem when off road. I was underneath for long enough that a member of staff asked me if I was ok! I’m curious as to why Edgar’s had this. Is his a petrol or diesel model? I also checked every Grenadier in the lot for dodgy rear mud flap/ arches and found all 15 vehicles to be fine. I guess they must have all been night shift models. I brought home with me one of their 1:18th scale models, and found it not only to be left hand drive, but that one of the rear panel windows was loose. However, no loose wiring underneath. The steering wasn’t as good as the demonstrator though.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Lol, not even I went under a vehicle in a showroom with staff around. Well done. Pretty sure that there are small improvements introduced in production as they move forward and the workers get faster and better. Thanks for the update. Christian

[@obertan_1]

> I’m curious as to why Edgar’s had this. Is his a petrol or diesel model? It's a diesel. But that's not the point. It's a Jean/Pierre problem: INEOS doesn't seem to have set the standards sufficiently yet. But since my car is still missing some accessories that are currently not available (e.g. running boards, camping table), I'll have to go to my rep anyway and will then bring a to-do list for him to work through. But I don't consider that surprising with such a new company and car.

[@robinireland810]

@@obertan_1 yes, quite likely a Jean/Pierre problem, although I believe the production line teams were inherited along with the Hambach plant, and are regarded as an excellent workforce. I guess training up the Quality Control Department is still ongoing. Speaking with my Grenadier supplier, he too confirmed that side steps and folding tables are still awaiting delivery, but that rock sliders are available. My order was for the rock sliders and table. Hopefully by the time my Grenadier arrives (maybe September), accessories will be more readily available.

[@dylanwebb9584]

Well! That was interesting to say the least.

[@steveone9375]

Yes it definitely had that new car smell 😂

[@joshuamugabi8781]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Discoveryjamie]

I wonder how it compares to the new defender in the “real world” as in the uk after the warranty not many people keep the defender due to many many issues 😢

[@gerardoviegas6586]

😁😁😁😁you have given Edgar a micro hart attack...😁😁😁😁with the broken switch....😁😁😁😁

[@obertan_1]

Nano, I'd say. Christian's humor is sometimes only for the robust ones.

[@samrodian919]

Lovely looking vehicle, it's just a great pity that Tata industries couldn't be arsed to make the new defender that way. Christian your underbody assessment is spot on, those cables would be ripped out when going over really rough terrain obstacles. The routing of the cables is nonsensical and just asking for trouble.

[@hughmarcus1]

Have a look at Harry’s Garage review of the Grenadier. Hint. He wasn’t impressed

[@johnjoseph911]

One day I would love you to do a “German review” of an Icon Land Cruiser…

[@Vera_and_Christian]

There are no Land Cruisers in Germany for a review. Toyota Germany does not admit that they have a big SUV. We are not able to review a LC, believe we have tried. 👍🙋‍♀️Vera

[@peregrinemccauley5010]

With the safari windows, you can fit a giraffe 🦒 in the front seat, or alternatively, a standing mannequin from a Grace Bros' store display window.

[@mauritztoivonen1070]

Thank you.

[@curvy6c1]

WOW ,loving it🤗❤️

[@roryfreeman9433]

Love your sense of humour

[@azazeldeath]

For the locking nuts. As an Aussie with an 80 series landcruiser...yeah they will steal those tires. And that underside. Yeah I wouldn't take that offroad here without some underbody protection, wiring management and waterproofing. Also a snorkel is good to have for any water crossing and also for cleaner/cooler air. Infact most snorkels aren't water forwarding safe and only for cleaner air intake.

[@michaelopere5424]

Those black still rims looks good and badass on the vehicle. Ineos made the right decision by ignoring low profile tires or alloy rims as options.

[@discovery-on-the-island1079]

Nice 4x4 👍

[@livingworkingoutsidebox]

Great under carriage inspection.

[@josephp5058]

Nice bit of kit, if you have the proper use for it, l was talking to a very experienced Africa Continent over lander and hate to say it but the advice is to all novices contemplating the trek - “novices set off in a Land Rover - but return in a Land Cruiser”

[@mzk6550]

Oh my... Very nice!!

[@shawtravis7384]

Great commentary!!

[@bobrose7900]

Vast car, I didn't appreciate how big it was until it was sat on your drive. 13m turning circle! And fixed springs - shocking omission, for one the rear loading deck height looks huge, Vera would need ramps... Different styles of locking wheel nuts are available and the wheels can be balanced on the car of course. Overall looks impressive though, not least because it rivals the Disco 3 and 4 for space - vital. What were Landrover thinking! Early teething troubles plague all new cars (oil pumps?) but it all looks fairly minor and fixable. I wish Grenadier and it's new owner all the very best, I'll keep my fingers crossed for them both! Nice video.

[@Zer0kbps]

The insides of that car are like the death star's control panels.

[@Rickwardful]

I don’t care that it was made by Pierre, Shaw or Joe, or the fact that it isn’t a Land Rover, I GOTTA GET ME ONE OF THESE !!

[@MinnieMaus-fl8bk]

Großartig, dieses Video. No need to translate this! I'am a LC nerd and I love your videos. Thank you!