The INSANE IMAX Production of THE CREATOR

[@FrameVoyager]

Would Christopher Nolan use the Sony FX3 for IMAX?

[@notnikola]

😂 Is that a rhetorical question?

[@FrameVoyager]

I was hoping for some essay's haha

[@CNC-Time-Lapse]

Makes me want to go out and buy an FX3

[@jmalmsten]

I'm not sure what would get someone like Nolan to entertain the posibility that sub 65mm film is enough for any production. No matter how good digital gets.

[@FrameVoyager]

Just hide it inside an IMAX camera and don't tell him

[@WaterShowsProd]

I worked on this film. Unfortunately my scene was in the 3 hours removed from the original cut. 😢 However, the feeling on set was electrice, dynamic, and fun. It was a fantastic experience and everyone involved loved the work that they were doing. I saw the film at a premiere on The 25th and it surpassed my expectations which were already high. This really is a great movie, and thank you for this look into how it was made.

[@FrameVoyager]

Appreciate it!

[@ecofriend93]

Maybe there'll be a 5hr director's cut edition.

[@SarahC2]

I want the 5 hour film directors cut!

[@JediKnight207]

What does "creator" mean?

[@natecollins9331]

That's Awesome man

[@BradGroux]

The "controversy" is ridiculous. Films, especially sci-fi and horror films, have been using real-world clips for decades to make the fictional world feel more grounded and real. Garth Edwards quite literally shot Monsters in the storm ravaged Gulf Coast.

[@FrameVoyager]

I think for this one it's because it's still an ongoing issue that hasn't been resolved. Several years later and it's still making the news for the people that lived their still not getting any help of compensation. So I think that's why it's such a pain point. A western film can make money off of their tragedy while their lives continue to effected by that event.

[@joannot6706]

Agreed, what are people thinking about this controversy? That the crew are happy the Beyrouth explosion happened? The reference is used for a scene in the film that's supposed to be a tragedy and a vector of massive change, This choice of reference could have brought up further discussions about the real catastrophe which is a good thing, instead they directed that potential discourse towards what? So weird

[@FrameVoyager]

@@joannot6706 well I think the issue is it's not even just a reference for a shot. It looks like they used the actual footage and then just spruced up some buildings around it to make it look more sci Fi. Like for reference it's fine, but they basically just kinda copied the footage. Which makes me think it's a mistake and I never saw it in the film itself

[@kromkake666]

@BradGroux I'm curious which movies you have seen that used stock footage of people being killed. I don't think anyone should profit off footage like this, how am I being ridiculous exactly?

[@kromkake666]

@@joannot6706 It wasn't a reference, it was footage of a real disaster where people were killed and maimed being used in a trailer for a blockbuster picture. Your argument makes no sense whatsoever.

[@pertoor]

Thank you for this wonderful review! It provided a lot of context about this movie that I was looking for and contains very well researched clips and sidenotes! I didn't enjoy The Creator while I was watching it because of countless flaws I saw in storytelling, internal logic, plot holes and character development, however, your review made me look at it from a whole different perspective! (though, having another screenwriter look over the script may not have been a budget killer for Gareth Edwards...) I'm still curious about all the Japanese references in this movie, also Ken Watanabe plays a big role and speaks Japanese among people from Thailand, Nepal, Cambodia and Indonesia, and even the credits at the end are shown in English + Japanese. Do you know why Japanese has been so heavily emphasized?

[@oddyneo]

Id watch this today. Its was good.

[@tvstafford1989]

That was a notable "contravervy"

[@FrameVoyager]

💀💀💀🙃

[@jave567]

Worked on some this movie. As a client, Gareth Edwards and team were the best. They pushed quality but also were extremely collaborative and clearly understood the strengths and limits of post production CGI. It felt like real filmmaking and was night and day from some other big tentpole productions where changes were all over the place with no regard for time, budget, or the actual workflow/artistry. Gareth and team THANKED ME PERSONALLY for doing some extra work on a shot last min. This film will always hold a special place in my career/heart.

[@FrameVoyager]

Gareth seems like a really nice guy. Did you work on some of the CGI/VFX of this movie? Was actually quite curious how the VFX artists felt about working on it and the process of it

[@КириллПальцев-ю1о]

Thanks man! I like this movie a lot

[@cpuuk]

I spent a few days with Gareth, a honest down to earth guy who stands by his friends. When you hear his stories of how he move up through the industry you will realise he is no debutante- he earned his spurs the hard way. Looking forward to also buying the 4K Ultra when it comes out.

[@GuineaPigEveryday]

This guy worked in VFX, not a director just a VFX artist in the UK, for almost ten years. In an interview he said that while he regrets spending so long in VFX too scared to take the risk of directing, he also sees now how useful that time is by knowing exactly how to work in tandem with VFX when directing. Instead of the usual tactic of leaving everything to post-production, he knows exactly how his shots can work best with the VFX that comes later and there isn’t too much miscommunication or burden on the VFX artists.

[@FrameVoyager]

That's gotta start to become more common in the industry. Too many directors just add on a lot of work for VFX artists.

[@DPham1]

I hope he brings a lot more of his experience and knowledge so more directors know how to best utilize VFX teams and VFX artists & teams start getting more respect and less workload in the long run.

[@nnjjee1]

Doug Liman’s polar opposite, in a good way

[@ApostolosFilms]

His vfx work is amazing. I remember he did an Attila tv movie idk what the budget for it was. I think he said $50,000 but he did the direction / vfx . The methods he did to make the big battles on such a small budget personally is mind blowing. He made tutorials and posted them on fxphd

[@user-kr2yj4dm3l]

@@FrameVoyager I think it'll be a natural progression of amazing storytelling (not discounting the dramatics arts), that there will be more and more directors stepping up from VFX. VFX artists are usually skilled more often in a number of hobbies outside of their career discipline and quite often there are skills in some form of storytelling.

[@jackbynum]

You can tell Garreth is one of those people who enjoys the "making" of the film, not the ego boost of "being the director of a large budget movie" - his gumption and humility is something to aspire towards for sure.

[@FrameVoyager]

Absolutely! And he seems super calculated about his films too. Looks like it would be a blast to be on this production

[@BooHoogland]

The Creator was dogshit though

[@edba1.037]

but i hope he wrote a better script because the writing on this movie was criticized, especially the ending

[@Gromic2k]

Yes it's nice to see him sell the work of the people who actually made the film happen, namely Industrial Light & Magic, as his achievement. Nobody asks them for their opinion about the new approach

[@edba1.037]

@@Gromic2k he actually gave a good treatment to the vfx worker

[@CNC-Time-Lapse]

I love it when production has to be creative to make a movie on a budget. Honestly, those movies look and feel the most realistic in my opinion. They don't heavily rely on visual effects or CGI to tell the story and focus on physical props or locations and one's own imagination.

[@FrameVoyager]

Agreed! And I think this movie shows that planning smartly, one can use VFX just as well as the larger budget films with a bit more planning. Also, helps a lot to have a director who has a background in visual effects.

[@WonderBoggle]

As long as crew aren't getting exploited due to the lower budget

[@BooHoogland]

This movie was all CGI, what are you smoking?

[@edba1.037]

​@@BooHooglandCGI with practical background and less green screen, still good

[@edba1.037]

​​@@FrameVoyageragreed, but it will be better if the director can hire someone to write a better script because there are criticism on the writing

[@cokepickle]

cameras costing 4k to shoot 4k is so funny

[@FrameVoyager]

hahaha That is pretty funny

[@InfinitePlaylist909]

Saw a preview screening and it is has some of the best visual effects ive ever seen. So remarkably realistic and clean. I cannot believe we still let Marvel and DC get away with the terrible work they turn out.

[@FrameVoyager]

It all really comes down to style and being able to do things that don't resemble an assembly line

[@InfinitePlaylist909]

@@FrameVoyager totally. Thanks for the amazing vid as always 💙

[@luvair6765]

I think since everything was already shot with knowing what the director wanted there wasn't a ton of back and forth and feedback destroying the morale of artists.

[@v1nigra3]

If you love that then you would definitely love Foundation

[@ALeprechaunn]

One of the biggest reasons both Gareth and Grieg mentioned was the 12800 ISO. Apparently those night time beach scenes are lit with just moonlight, which is how they were able to keep the crew down to 4.

[@FrameVoyager]

Totally makes sense too. Cinema Cameras are great, but they really require lighting to work well. This kind of camera allows you some flexibility. Really cool to see

[@soocmedia]

Yea, I love our Sony FX3 for that very reason:).

[@serwinzzalot9989]

Trim the fat on these productions in hollywood. Constantly in bts I'm seeing pluseless people standing around taking money away from the actual movie. Useless previz useless costumes, useless coffee getters and useless assistants everywhere

[@pduidesign]

The fact that we can make imax approved/professional movies with a $4,000 camera is insane!! I hope so many new filmmakers will run with it just as Lucas and Spielberg did in their early days.

[@FrameVoyager]

I hope people really take away the creativity you really should build up in projects large to small!

[@JUNIORC101]

Yea but the lenses they used are expensive asf

[@monbeauparfum1452]

With chatgpt to write the script and actors/creators all over the place, cinemas is going to live a revolution.

[@WestonNey3000]

@@JUNIORC101you can get nice lenses for $1000-$4000

[@kromkake666]

@@monbeauparfum1452 Why on earth would you want chatgpt authoring movies? That is the opposite of art.

[@STEVO214F]

Rogue one was the best star wars movie coming out of this century.

[@FrameVoyager]

Has some of the best imagery for sure

[@FrameVoyager]

Did I mention that Hans Zimmer scored this movie?

[@Designguidetv]

was he forced to use a casio keyboard to do the score?

[@FrameVoyager]

@@Designguidetv Spit my coffee out reading this comment haha

[@gcahbm]

It is fun to see quite a lot of recent productions like The Creator, Rogue One, Andor, Oppenheimer, Tenet, Dune, Asteroid City, Triangle of Sadness, etc. move back to shooting more and more in-camera and on-location whilst other, often more expensive productions lean heavily on the seemingly cheaper greenscreen or "volume" methods like The Mandalorian and The Book of Boba Fett, recent Marvel movies and shows, Red Notice or Death on the Nile. And funnily enough the on-location/in-camera productions are in my opinion nearly always the better movies.

[@jmalmsten]

He revolutionized filmmaking... by... being sensible. Not wasting money on equipment, sets and locations that he didn't need. And by returning to the notion of "picture lock" in postproduction before firing up the VFX brunt work. It may feel like a "well duh!?" moment. But I do hope someone at studio executive offices watches this carefully. Although. While I keep returning to watch his films. I do also get that, they tend to not be the box office behemoths that Disney and the like want. He doesn't really do the crowd pleasing billion dollar revenue things. I think it will make its money back. But I am not expecting End Game turnout of audiences. But with a sensible budget. It shouldn't have to. I am just thankful that there are people doing big Sci Fi epics without getting bogged down in gear like Nolan and staying sensible with VFX and production unlike most studios.

[@FrameVoyager]

Right? It's pretty crazy. Usually when you hear about productions being run like this it's a good sign. Directors that take a lot more care with their movies end up creating memorable movies. Just hoping this is one of them because it's been sad to see the lack of original sci-fi in theaters.

[@roberthipolito1351]

He's not the first person to do something like this, but he is the first one to apply this method to a grand scale sci-fi action epic. I just hope Hollywood as a whole could learn, and stop the overindulgence that causes the ridiculously high budgets.

[@____uncompetative]

_End Game_ is excrement.

[@jmalmsten]

@@ahlads To be fair... it was :p The quality of the end product is not relevant to being revolutionary. :)

[@Mundm28]

I actually think this movie exists in a kind of vacuum right now where there arent that many other action blockbusters in cinema that it may be very well be quite successful

[@stevejjd]

I honestly believe we will see extremely small teams creating insane level work. I think it may get to the point where an individual can make a short movie. The technology is getting that good.

[@ResizeFilms]

Sony FX3 is a brilliant compact cinema camera with stunning image quality. The simple fact that this high end production movie was mostly shot on the FX3 says it all.

[@johnbernhardtsen3008]

about 6300 dollars for that camera and a prime wide angle lens!

[@WromWrom]

@@johnbernhardtsen3008 Compared to what an ARRI costs, this is peanuts.

[@BooHoogland]

Yeah an 80 million dollar budget with professional grip, vfx artists, highest end set of cinema lens, and a veteran crew will do that...

[@javebjorkman]

Bro we’ve had the FX3 for two years and never dreamed of filming a movie like this 😭. Cant wait to see how the movie is when it comes out!

[@FrameVoyager]

Pretty crazy right? If this doesn't put to bed the idea of you don't need the best camera to make something I don't know what will

[@javebjorkman]

@@FrameVoyager big budget iPhone sci-fi movie will maybe idk, but this is just so inspirational tho

[@Orginal_Sinner]

I really enjoyed this movie. I love to see directors who are passionate about what they create.

[@FrameVoyager]

Really cool!

[@FrameVoyager]

I guess you could say the Conjuring Universe finally got to me there at the end of the video 💀💀💀

[@CNC-Time-Lapse]

That's okay. What ever you do, I repeat, what ever you do, DON'T...

[@FrameVoyager]

😅😅😅

[@phoqueanonyme4072]

Visually speaking this movie is beautiful and well crafted. The only weakness lies in the plot which is pretty straight forward and lack depth. American bad, AI nice. Maybe we will get a director's cut that fixes this issues and explore more the lore !

[@FrameVoyager]

Yeahhhh, it really wasn't even about AI. Beautiful film and world building but yeah the story was pretty thin even if it had it's emotional moments

[@ismailnyeyusof3520]

Absolutely agree! Poor story and quite unbelievable that AI is the folksy hero.

[@alexm2889]

It was pretty painful to watch... Especially the end. Really undercuts any enjoyment of the visuals. Terrible writing.

[@SoerenM]

@@ismailnyeyusof3520 Yup, felt the same... overheard some audience members even contemplating if this was some kind of "pro-AI programming for the masses" ;) ... (too clunky for that tho)

[@jloflo958]

Nothing wrong with pointing out the flaws of imperialistic America

[@lanolinlight]

Also: anamorphic character lends even nondescript locations and practical lighting a great deal of mystery and gravitas. Look at anamorphic films like MEMENTO or CHRISTINE, shot in rather workaday environments that nevertheless feel like mythic fever dreams.

[@FrameVoyager]

More difficult to shoot on, but yeah, if done well enough you get really interesting looks to it! Lens selection is way more important than camera selection most of the time

[@polla2256]

This is looking like one of those movies where a directors cut would be well worth it. Really looking forward to watching this one.

[@eerice704]

Fr it was originally like 5 hours I would do anything to see that. This movie would definitely benefit from a directors cut because you can tell there were ideas that wanted to be explored more!

[@TheBoostHeroMan]

@@eerice704 It makes so much sense that a bunch was cut out, i felt like this movie was being hamstrung from the get go. There were so many moments that felt like they needed to be expanded.

[@oleolaf9147]

@@TheBoostHeroManEspecially in the last act. Characters kept teleporting around

[@gabrielvidaurre3018]

I'm watching this movie today. This movie looks good. I really loved Rouge one, the best thing that came out of Disney thats a conversation for another time. But the scale in rouge one battle scene at the bench was really impressive and the creator looks to capitalize on that and i cant wait.

[@53Pictures]

This is finally a proof that "prosumer" cameras or just cheaper cinema cameras are capable of shooting a high budget VFX heavy films. Not just "eastern european short film about living in small town" kind of films. I hope that it'll make small filmmakers (like me) going out more and actually shooting films, not just thinking about the latest gear and limitations. Thanks for covering this topic good job as always. I'm also very interested on how it'll look like in IMAX cinema.

[@FrameVoyager]

Appreciate it! And it really is a great movie to point any aspiring filmmaker to

[@heroaomedia]

@@alexiskobalt7450Hmmm that’s a valid opinion. And I wouldn’t be surprised if Sony did that. It’s sort of like the lantern days

[@heroaomedia]

@@alexiskobalt7450 yeah I’ve never really believed that nothing was going on before the raw signal was going out.

[@robinv1485]

The trailer was shown in my Imax next to dune and gt when I went to see oppenheimer. Looked fine. In fact if it wasn't this video I would have not guessed and I work as a visual artist. Common moviegoers will definitely not see any difference.@@alexiskobalt7450

[@tiefensucht]

yes and no. they more or less use the same technology on paper, but are designed in a way that better suits professionals, also with the whole eco system behind it and lets be real, does a filmmaker really care about paying 10.000$ or 100.000$ for a camera when the movie budget is at 80.000.000$? and like mentioned, the low light scenes in the trailer look a bit shitty, so there are clearly some limitations. but yeah, for indie film makers, artists & advertising, the fx3 is a great choice.

[@MtZionMediaPro]

Excellent breakdown as always! Love your docuseries!

[@FrameVoyager]

Appreciate it!

[@thebogzilla]

This is how effects should be treated in films. I've heard first hand from people working on Marvel films the amount of money and visual effects footage that is pointlessly wasted... nice to see Gareth Edwards making some visually stunning work that isn't getting churned through the 'system'. Loved Rogue One, Can't wait to see this film!

[@FrameVoyager]

Yep!

[@R3TR0J4N]

love how the vfx or CG lighting blends well with its background even on greenery. and its theme was reminiscent of vietnam war films. its up there w/ District 9

[@JB-1138]

Looks incredible for what is now considered a low budget. Hopefully other filmmakers can learn from this.

[@letscreategreatfilm4488]

Not a fan of the aspect ratio, but would be cool to watch it on a three screen system. They tried so hard to make this look like modern movies, which sadly equates to muted, clinical images. It just seems like the cameras of today try so hard to make images as flat as possible, and every film looks the same. Look at films such as E.T, Blade Runner, The Shining, Annie, Alien, etc. Those were shot on the same film stock, but had looks unique to each film. Most films shot today look so similar, regardless of narrative. Is this a product of how Sony's prosumer cams render images, or how everyone wants to make films look "cinematic" with one method? Kudos to everyone who worked on this film, as it shows that gear matters less than the story. But if only they made the image stand out from the rest of the crowd.

[@FrameVoyager]

I would say the image probably comes down to art direction as movies like the batman and dune have a very stylized look and production design. I mean Dune used grey screen instead of green screen so it wouldn't effect the light temperature. But to be fair to this film, they accomplished a lot for how much their budget was. I'll have to see this in theaters first before I can confirm the modern movie look you're referencing. But honestly, when I saw the trailer for this I liked the art direction of it. WE hall see!

[@3IRDDY]

IN OTHER WORDS. Gareth respected everyone on the team. Including VFX, by locking down scenes to it's final. That way VFX teams don't work on stuff that would be thrown out the window. I knew Gareth would be awesome from the start. Believed in him since Monsters. Gareth and many other great directors like Neil Blomkamp, Alex Garland, and Dan Trachtenberg, Greg Frasier, etc. go by unnoticed.

[@edba1.037]

he's a great director, i hope he can improve his writing on the script next time

[@ryandavis5379]

This film wasn't shot with IMAX cameras. Seeing it in IMAX is just going to get you black bars on the top and bottom of the screen. Better off seeing this in a Dolby Atmos theatre. I love how they tossed the IMAX name around with pretty much every movie now lol.

[@FrameVoyager]

No, it was shot with "Ready for IMAX" cameras. Which is how most movies made for IMAX are filmed. Not every movie plays at IMAX theaters. Even though this one was filmed with a really wide format for screens like screenx, from what I've seen of trailers of this film in IMAX theaters it's going to be reformatted to IMAX, so I could be wrong but I don't really think you'll have black bars and if there are they won't be that large. There are 2 categories for IMAX usually: 1. Shot with IMAX 2. Filmed for IMAX For the IMAX “Film for IMAX” program, which defines the cinema cameras that can shoot for its theaters, the production is supervised by IMAX, which determines the protocol, best practices, and methodologies for shooting the format. At the end of the day all IMAX really is, is a specific format in a premium viewing experience. Now, which method to capture that IMAX format in is an entirely different question and one probably ending up at the most premium level filming on actual IMAX cameras. But no, I won't throw around the IMAX term for a movie not already having the intention of being played in IMAX theaters. The Creator has been on the IMAX 2023 slate for a while

[@ryandavis5379]

Interstellar is a legit imax film worthy of the complete package imax can give you. A lot of these movies are being tossed in IMAX but I just don't think it's worth it over what Dolby Atmos theatres can offer. Better seating, more immersive audio and a scope screen suited for how this movie was shot.

[@FrameVoyager]

Well for sure. Interstellar would be more in line with the premium aspect of IMAX. Actually going to see Interstellar in 70mm IMAX in December

[@ryandavis5379]

@@FrameVoyager awesome enjoy! Love the channel!

[@TheLastDab]

Watching this not in IMAX is a crime. Great movie, maybe not with a revolutionairy story, but a solid work and technically done with a lot of great stuff.

[@lalexandre4269]

this movie was amazing, its been a while since i was jaw wide open at a movie

[@flproductions90]

It's amazing that they were able to achieve this using the most resourceful in modern technology, but let's not forget that the most important thing in making a great film is a great story, a great script, a great cast, and a great crew that truly want to make it. Excited to see this because it seems to have all the above

[@FrameVoyager]

agreed! And that's why I wanted to cover it too. Seems like the story is going to be good from early reviews. Hoping it's a good original sci-fi movie. Been a while

[@flproductions90]

@@FrameVoyager I think this one's going to be a gem. Even if all the rotten tomatoes score start adding up and the score itself is lower than what we expected. I think this film forever change the landscape of how big movies can update their workflow to utilize more modern technology and ideas. Also, while I have your attention, you are doing amazing job!

[@FrameVoyager]

@@flproductions90 Appreciate it! Glad everyone is enjoying these production breakdowns. And agree! Also just excited because Hans Zimmer scored this movie haha

[@scottyzepplinphotography1188]

Rotten tomatoes can only dream of making a movie, anyone else would even remember.@@flproductions90

[@shadowaccount]

I just saw this out of respect for Gareth. Pretty underwhelming and boring to be honest. I realized after this that JDW is not a good actor and I don't know why I keep trying to like him as one (especially after Tenet 😴) At this point it's clear he keeps getting most of his roles for his name sadly. But, this could have been a cool TV series with fleshed out characters and story ( I guess) , but as a movie it's basically a budget tech demo with a half baked art direction and even worse writing and plot. The visuals were very good. I can see a possible sequel but there were so many plot holes it was hard to care.

[@marcusmezzano]

Agreed

[@FrameVoyager]

I actually have thought about this same thing. With how much ground this film covers, it really could have been an entire 10 episode Apple TV show.

[@deadn00b1]

I FINALLY get to watch this movie next week at the new IMAX theatre in Sydney after 7 long years of reconstruction, I’m also gonna be watching an early screening tomorrow in D-Box

[@FrameVoyager]

SWEET! Yeah, excited to see it in IMAX

[@benoitcazenave]

I was at the beach they talk about when they were filming. Thailand was just reopening from Covid lockdown and what is usually an overcrowded beach was mostly empty that week. When we arrived at night they were filming and the lights were all off but there was hardly any signs of what was going on. It’s only the next morning that we realized that we were staying on a movie set! We got to see real close the equipment they were using and they had a big drone with the FX3 mounted on it that was quite impressive.

[@analog-dreams]

HOLY CRAP they filmed this on FX3. Amazing. Wonderfully-detailed video, this was awesome. I can't wait to watch the film. Also lol at the cutoff at the end

[@FrameVoyager]

haha accidental cutoff but I'm just saying the conjuring universe finally got to me

[@Poepopdestoep]

Such an effecient director, i hope disney/marvel is paying attention...

[@FrameVoyager]

They are haha. This technically is a disney movie 😅😅😅 But yeah, hope this is a repeatable thing for more productions.

[@Frontigenics]

They aren’t. The next “Director” that Marvel/Disney signs will probably be some random TikToker that will require 7 to 9 reshoots for every scene.

[@mrplaomeow768]

Shooting on location has a huge part in why Andor is peak Star Wars.

[@FrameVoyager]

Yep! And it's why it looks the best. Sad they wasted it on a story no one genuinely cared too much about.

[@ledheavy26]

@@FrameVoyager It's the best Star Wars content since Rogue One. The writing, pacing, acting, story, art direction and cinematography were all top tier in my opinion. They need to give that director/writer more Star Wars IP so we don't let it go completely into the Marvel trash can.

[@FrameVoyager]

@@ledheavy26 agreed! But it's with a main character that you already know what happens too. Kind of takes any suspense out of it.

[@mrplaomeow768]

Without writing an essay, I will say that Andor added much needed depth, world building and focused on the stakes of a "forceless" side of Star Wars with dialogue that is by far more accessible to audiences while embracing the 70's used future aesthetic. end of essay.

[@rudra7615]

That’s incredible this only cost under $90m. Though the story could be better, I hope it becomes a hit then

[@FrameVoyager]

Yeah, bueatiful film but the story was pretty thin. Though I'll admit it had it's emotional moments

[@Dazreil]

Having listened to the "Going Rogue" podcast, this film seems to achieve everything Gareth wanted to do on Rogue One. I glad he's proven himself right.

[@FrameVoyager]

Had a lot of constraints working within the star wars universe. Star Wars really needs to go to a different part of the timelines so they can do whatever they want with the story without having to make a billion connections

[@joseph7858]

thank you for the insight and research. 😊

[@FrameVoyager]

Our pleasure!

[@AwesomeEvan10]

Hoping this dude can hit 100k by the end of this year. Theses videos are literal premium KZbin.

[@FrameVoyager]

Appreciate it! That's our goal for sure! Think we'll hit it early next year more than likely, but still worth a shot to hit it before new years

[@landonweldy5468]

I was impressed with the small budget of Dune Part One (165m). But this... this is tiny.

[@Kaotix_music]

I love that this movie is shot on a camera i personally own and it really shows its never the gear...its the creative mind. BUT what really got me was when he said the beach scene wasnt closed down XDDD now that he said it and i go see it this weekend im gonna see it and now its ruined hahahahahahaha (not really but i just find it so funny) I like filmmakers like this. Just break the damn rules and look what you get? A gorgeous looking film! I just hope the story is amazing

[@FrameVoyager]

Hoping the story is amazing as well! Really need some more original sci-fi movies

[@WaterShowsProd]

Even recognising one of the locations in particular, as well as knowing some of the cast, it didn't pull me out of the story. The story is amazing and wholly captivating.

[@MtZionMediaPro]

I love this type of filmmaking! You get up and get your boots dirty and keep a small team.

[@FrameVoyager]

Right? Like this to me feels like the cool kind of filmmaking.

[@MtZionMediaPro]

@@FrameVoyager 1,000%! You can tell How much the creators care about a movie by how they go about filming it-- versus some studios who just pump out garbage for 300 million. Hearing stories like this is what drives people to the theaters!! Keep up the good work brother!!

[@FrameVoyager]

Appreciate it!

[@Chandler_Goodrich]

It’s like the DSLR Revolution all over again! It goes to show that it’s about what’s in the frame, and your image pipeline.

[@FrameVoyager]

For real!

[@thoreberlin]

Watched this in IMAX, but it was 21:9 through the whole movie. I feel betrayed. Why did you call this a IMAX production? Just because it is shown in some Liemax Theaters?

[@WillJBailey]

Recommend watching the DVD extra making of doc for Monsters. Extraordinary how they made that movie. Seems they did The Creator in a similar way but with a bigger budget.

[@FrameVoyager]

It seems super similar. Honestly, I feel like I would enjoy this kind of filmmaking more than a larger budget production. Small crew, multiple locations, etc. Seems exhausting, stressful, and fun! haha

[@tiax_m]

​@@FrameVoyager fun fact: he made Monsters with the prize money he got from winning a 48h sci fi film competition

[@Jhon_wick03]

Can you give me the link to that video, i am an aspiring film maker ,searched that in youtube not able to find it

[@KnarfMetmohn]

I think Neill Blomkamp also kind of made his movies like shooting at location and adding vfx later? His films also have an very realistic look.

[@FrameVoyager]

I think maybe for some of them? I'd have to go back and check.

[@KnarfMetmohn]

@@FrameVoyager Chappie and District 9 definitely. Elysium also had a lot of its plot in slums on earth

[@willgeorge7995]

I’m so happy with how this turned out. It’s so amazing to see filmmakers using equipment and styles which is achievable by up and coming filmmakers. The FX3 is such a good camera. So impressed.

[@joelbergfx]

This is the best use of VFX I can remember. The art direction and filmaking blew me away. Working with constraints make better work.

[@BlackAera]

Honestly... I thought shooting on location and embedding CGI in post was the obvious way to do it, back in the day. Why change a running system?! I will never for the life of me understand why anyone thinks using a greenscreen for literally every minor inconvenient scene, instead of real locations is cheaper, more practical, easier to work with or more convincing. It is baffling to me how shit like Indiana Jones 5 cost 4 times as much as this movie while looking so god awful in comparison.

[@FrameVoyager]

Yep! But the difference here was the entire movie was edited down to it's final version before VFX even touched it. Meaning a hell of a lot less work

[@Odoggin01]

As someone who owns the Sony a7siii, which is practically identical to the FX3 minus the better cooling and body design, seeing a blockbuster movie on the big screen filmed by said FX3, makes me feel more empowered that my camera can also do that

[@cr4zyg047]

Your best video yet! Wow that production seems wildly innovative! Reminds me of District 9

[@cess5614]

We watched this twice already in the theater. Freaking amazing! High quality movie!

[@rtdietrich]

Picture and CGI ===> great ===> Story & logic ===> bullshit

[@FrameVoyager]

Story was pretty thin... It had it's emotional moments but it was definitley not the best

[@ExtremeMadnessX]

Because...

[@rtdietrich]

@@ExtremeMadnessXI have seen the movie already

[@NordleM20]

nepotism at it worse, that guy cannot act to save his life and has as much screen presence and charisma as a plank of wood.

[@jmalmsten]

Also. I remember watchin a QnA with Edwards after a screening of Monsters at Stockholm Film Festival. He was asked what he used to shoot the film on. And he sighed. And responded something like: "Yeah, it is kind of the most boring aspect of movie-making. We used a depth of field adaptor on a digital camera. Next question." I don't remember the exact words. It was 15 or so years ago. But the sentiment was there. Even then. The camera was a means to an end. He used that camera setup for that film. and clearly, he continued to pick equipment according to what he needs for each film. No real baggage involved. An Alexa 65 for Rogue One. An FX3 for The Creator. If the FX3 was available for his Star Wars film, he probably would have used it. He may not be my favourite director (he has a solid track record, though) but he does have my respect there.

[@FrameVoyager]

That's pretty funny. But he's seems to be a director that has a clear vision on all of his projects.

[@rprbeck]

Holy damn what? An FX3? This is absolutely amazing!!

[@FrameVoyager]

Right? Though what's really cool is how the camera was really selected to service a lot of the other cost cutting methods they used to get this movie down to $86 million. The why they used it and the production process is fascinating. A lot to learn about teaching yourself to be creative with the limits you are given from a low budget to an $86 million budget

[@MrSameerMalik1]

Just watched this movie. I think it was visually stunning (like top 10 all time sci fi aesthetic) but suffers in terms of story by being a movie about AI whose development started before and was released during a period when our understanding of what AI actually is and how it will affect the world is more refined and based in reality. AI cyborgs feel like a dated sci fi idea to me. Also the barrel with arms and legs was kinda funny.

[@FrameVoyager]

agreed! I was a little concerned because movies about AI in this kind of sense are kind of old. Visually stunning, thin story but I still say it had its emotional moments.

[@ExtremeMadnessX]

It's funny that someone with Optimus Prime as their avatar say this.

[@MrSameerMalik1]

@@ExtremeMadnessX lol you make a good point

[@ExtremeMadnessX]

@@MrSameerMalik1 No offense but calling stories about sapient AI as some dated SF idea sounds ignorant and close minded because those kinds of stories exist for at least 100 years, and if you include stories about artificially creating life that go even further in past.

[@MrSameerMalik1]

@@ExtremeMadnessX it’s not sapient AI that I called dated, it’s sapient AIs shoehorned into humanoid bodies with almost zero acknowledgement of what AI in the real world actually is and no extrapolation of or even nod to what those AIs might become, humanoid AIs powerful enough to become entire nation states that wage wars but that are comedically fallible in many ways including having physically accessible standby switches on their necks. This kind of dissonance kills the film and is why I called it dated. And saying that stories are a 100 years old isn’t a great argument against something feeling dated at a time in human society when technology is moving so rapidly that every new decade seems to have an entirely different paradigm to the last

[@ThecrazyJH96]

I feel like the they had no left over money for the marketing :/

[@FrameVoyager]

Yeahhhh, I think maybe word of mouth might help this film out.

[@replicant_2049]

As the movie is shot in an ultra wide ratio (2.76:1) it will have big black bars top and bottom on an IMAX screen, even on a basic 1.90:1 screen so not really IMAX at all. Personally I wish they had shot this in digital 1.43:1 like Dune. Still looking forward to watching movie though and cool to see that they used such an accessible camera! Really hope it does well at the box office.

[@FrameVoyager]

Yeah, I could have done with a taller picture, but it wasn't distracting enough for me to care too much. Really good movie tho

[@James-Alai]

This should inspire up and coming filmmakers because it shows that anything is possible with today's technology.

[@FrameVoyager]

Absolutetly!

[@DucatiKozak]

I have my IMAX tix for Monday night! Cant wait for Gareth's vision! Hilarious anecdote about the physicist nerds all wanting to be in a film that a Star Wars director made 😝 (Great vid, keep it up, but this video seems to cut out at the end?)

[@FrameVoyager]

The conjuring got me 👀

[@fyrTV]

Is the IMAX larger than Dolby screen?

[@koomar341]

Thanks for this coverage! I'm gonna go out and see this film that wasn't even on my radar haha. The FX3 had to have been outputting raw to the atomos recorder, I reckon!

[@FrameVoyager]

No problem! That's why I try and cover these sorts of films so you guys know which ones are coming out! We are actually starting a podcast too on which films we think you should each month in theaters and which you should stay at home and wait for.

[@SmallerSoul]

Can't wait for this film to fill less than half of the vertical space on a 1.43 IMAX screen 🤣 (film looks really cool, though I question the "IMAX" marketing when it doesn't even occupy the full height of *any* cinema format)

[@FrameVoyager]

Could be just how they are showing it for the previews and for ScreenX. A lot of films are shot with the intention of converting to multiple formats. Like when you watch an Oppenheimer trailer, it's not in the IMAX format yet.

[@SmallerSoul]

@@FrameVoyager Indeed, but that wouldn't be the case in this instance. The Creator was shot and finished at an anamorphic 2.78:1. Oppenheimer was shot natively at 1.43 and 2.20 (for different film stocks), but all non-IMAX venues just show the film in 2.20 to better suit their screens. The only way to adhere to an IMAX height screen for anamorphic-shot productions is to either crop horizontally or fabricate new vertical information in post (which Dune Part I did on a few occasions). My local IMAX gives a disclaimer on their website noting The Creator will be presented in 2.78:1 to set expectations. This is in no way downplaying the other advantages IMAX venues have like the audio quality, or increased screen size inherent to being an IMAX venue at all. By all means, IMAX is probably among the best ways to watch it; I just find their "shot for IMAX" marketing a bit deceptive

[@cakeatator500]

this production is giving real District 9 production vibes

[@HeroesReforged]

The Creator is this decades District 9.

[@FrameVoyager]

It's so interesting to hear all the comparisons between Edwards and Neill Blomkamp. To me, Gareth Edward's kind of career trajectory feels more like Christopher Nolan's. Made some indie movies (Monsters) before exploding onto the scene with Godzilla and Rogue One. Now making an original Sci-fi movie after the big-budget films.

[@HeroesReforged]

@@FrameVoyager Oh, absolutely. I meant more in general terms as a unique and original sci-fi flick that was kind of unexpected. But, Gareth's career is a whole different story.

[@FrameVoyager]

@@HeroesReforged Fair! I'm pretty excited about the movie. We really need more orginal IP in the sci-fi genre.

[@FrameVoyager]

@@HeroesReforged btw, nice channel and videos you got there! Let me know if you guys would want to collab sometime. I'm sure we could do something interesting

[@Guilefpv]

I've watched this last week in IMAX during a secret screening organised by a local tech review company. It was a great movie, pacing was just nice as it allows you to understand the character and stroyline better. Was surprised it was shot on FX3 too after googling about the movie once we know the title.

[@WaterShowsProd]

I saw it on The 25th at a press screening in Bangkok. I agree with you completely. I was originally cast in a small role, but the scene was one of many that was cut. I loved the small production feel on set, and everyone was having so much fun making this movie.

[@FrameVoyager]

It's pretty crazy it was filmed on the FX3

[@andysmith8031]

I’m going to see this. My only question is, if shot on an fx3 how is it imax?

[@FrameVoyager]

@@andysmith8031 IMAX is a lot of different things. It's a type of theater viewing experience, it's a camera, and it's at the foremost a specific format. So while this wasn't filmed with an IMAX film camera, it was filmed with a ready for IMAX camera in the FX3. It's more about this production filming with IMAX in mind as it has been slated for IMAX theaters for a while.

[@jordi6795]

Just came from watching the release as the the initial trailers were promising, the visual effects, the landscapes/locations, the acting, the fictional world scenario, everything is amazing, superb (worth to mention that some scenes reminded me somehow some ones of the anime movie Akira), BUT the entire plot is nonsense, some of the military action is nonsense, there are situations that simply make no sense, also the design of the simulants, is really weird...

[@FrameVoyager]

Yeah the story was kind of a let down. Had it's emotional moments but I feel like this honestly could have been a better TV show then a film.

[@gurratell7326]

I love this kind of filmmaking, does as much as possible with (almost) as little as possible. Looking forward seeing this tomorrow in the cinema!

[@NR-rv8rz]

I haven't seen this yet and I already want to see the 5 hour cut.

[@AiringAustin]

For those interested, the A7Siii is a cheaper FX3 without a fan or tally light.

[@ledheavy26]

Without firmware updates too unfortunately lol. It does have an excellent viewfinder though that is sorely missed (imo) on the fx3/fx30.

[@FrameVoyager]

Does youyr A7siii overheat on you? The Fx3 and fx30 just don't it seems. That fan really is helpful

[@tupakaveli77]

My fx30 has never overheated in studio where the a7iv repeatedly did. Also I vlogged with it outside in 90 degrees never overheated once.

[@168tsai8]

I really enjoyed this movie and really love to watch the 5 hour version of this movie. Definitely one of my top Sci Fi film of 2023 thus far.

[@alexm2889]

Ha I would lose it. That movie was horribly written. 2 hours was far too much already

[@robertdouble559]

Saw it yesterday on a 24m (80ft) screen in Australia. Some of the footage BARELY held up on that size screen (Hoyts X-treme Screen). Some nasty noise in places. Not nice filmic grain either, it's a dirty digital splotchy noise. Not to the point of total distraction, but it is definitely there in some scenes. Decent movie though. Solid 7 out of 10. VFX inconsistent but overall pretty good. Lot's of expository crap in there for the dummies in the crowd. Some stupid logic jumps too. Better than most superhero trash though. Some great performances despite a pretty rote and predictable script. The 2 leads are great. It's not the savior of the future of sci fi the early reviews are wanking on about, but a decent movie all the same. Slightly better than Elysium, not as good as District 9. Has a LOT in common with Rogue One.

[@FrameVoyager]

A lot of people dubbed this as the Rogue One Gareth Edwards wanted to make but couldn't. But your review sounds about how I expected this movie to be. I'll be interested to see it on an IMAX screen. checking it out tonight

[@sebastianoropezaarcienega8460]

This made me appreciate the movie even more. One of the best of the year for sure

[@AnotherCameraChannel]

This video made me order an FX3

[@FrameVoyager]

hahaha it's honestly INSANE how good it looks in the trailers. I'll be interested to see it on an actual IMAX screen

[@arielshpitzer]

joke

[@zukacs]

havent seen a single promo of this movie. accidently saw in theater poster this week

[@FrameVoyager]

Maybe I just get ads because I'm always at the movies and researching them haha. I didn't realize that they hadn't been advertising this that much. Hope it really spreads by word of mouth

[@foreverdrift]

Dude, this is an awesome deep-dive! Thanks for making & posting it!

[@FrameVoyager]

Appreciate it! We do a lot of research into productions and various other things around the industry, so hope to see you around the channel!

[@NjordFjords]

Just watched it on IMAX. I've been craving more original sci-fi blockbusters so I really wanted to love it. However, the writing is just... infuriatingly bad! It felt like Garreth wanted to do a bunch of cool set pieces so he just loosely connected those scenes with genre troupes, on-the-nose dialogue, and and convenient solutions to advance the plot. I sincerely hope he'd spend as much care and attention on the script as he did on the cinematography and VFX.

[@FrameVoyager]

Beautiful film, but yeah the story was pretty thin. But I will say it did have it's emotional moments even if it wasn't the best.

[@chrisabruce]

Very nice piece. Well done. Excited for the movie and, of course, the indi-filmmaker approach.

[@FrameVoyager]

Appreciate it! And same, pretty excited for this one. Been a while since we've had an original sci-fi movie

[@dcamaraman939]

This makes me SO happy . I had NO money to go to the movies, so decided to NOT pay my phone bill and opted to watch this beautiful film in theaters.. Every day proves to have been worth it..

[@silo8582]

Can't believe that i have the same camera that they made a film on👀🎉

[@FrameVoyager]

I have the baby brother the fx30 I use for streaming lol

[@silo8582]

@@FrameVoyager but same genetics 🧬:D

[@izzieb]

Now you just need $86 million and you're golden!

[@chrishunt9675]

Awesome video. Ty! It’s a shame that the Sci-fi genre has been relegated to one Movie series that started in the 70’s. And despite its popularity, movies like this are few and in between thus garnering more criticism if not perfect. Having projects like this that are able to deliver on location with modest budgets is extremely important. Green screen is ruining film and limiting ideas.

[@lionheart4424]

Rogue One is the absolute best SW film in the Disney era. I am hoping this movie does well at the box office, not Barbie levels, but enough to make a profit after getting back the production and marketing costs. Excellent video!

[@FrameVoyager]

Appreciate it!

[@emeraldviolet2001]

The answer as to why they used to Beirut footage is that Gareth probably really liked the shockwave you can see in it, it is undoubtably impressive footage and their budget did not facilitate creating shots like that from the ground up. They rebuilt their own future buildings ontop of the real footage and literally rotoscoped and used the actual shockwave from the footage. Its extremely bad taste and i am GLAD that you covered it in this informing video!!

[@AlexSciChannel]

I disagree that it's in bad taste as it's merely used as tool for physics vfx reference. Its not like the explosion itself wasn't in the movie. Merely the rotoscoped Shockwave.

[@usersangsa]

love love the fx3!

[@FrameVoyager]

It's a great camera!

[@gehteuchnichtsan7911]

That's why indie films feel more authentic in my opinion.

[@FrameVoyager]

Yep!

[@ROCKYSBOY]

Bad film beautiful filming

[@FrameVoyager]

fair... thin story but had it's emotional moments here and there. Cinematography was top notch though

[@ROCKYSBOY]

I hope more take the budget route and just be economical and more industrious as it has a charm like the film Chronicles a few polished items nestled between great angles and cinematography. Just wanted the story to travel and have some real connection, he has all the shots for a great film but script and performances let it down for me. He should have had his wounds connected clearly to loss and shown his turning and reason for AI distain. They should have shown his infiltration and their relationship as he neared closer to her terrorist father They should have explored his conflict more and shown that he had loss and pain but enough wriggle room to exploit and change/grow. The message of the story should have been more focused on something specific, horrors of humanity or fear of difference or how love can bridge culture…something. The film was vague, but I will show it to my kids and save on showing an endless catalogue of cool anime and sci-fi as it’s all in here visually. I would buy a book of prints in a heartbeat and the soundtrack was awesome too 🙏🏾

[@jayisprime]

I would love to see the Directors cut

[@whophd]

I'm loving all of this. I'm a big fan of location shooting, and now rewatching the 13th Doctor era (Jodie Whitaker) you can see the choices of producer Chris Chibnall and his directors. Just amazing scale, and awe. We're going to miss this with the 2023 episodes and 2024 season, I think.

[@FrameVoyager]

Scale and location shooting just bring a nice little extra something to a film. Not everything has to be it, but at least having it can help hide other things imo.

[@whophd]

@@FrameVoyager Yes! Like any "luxury" choice, it's just revealing & relaxing to see it appear for a few seconds. Just to know it's there. Just to have proof that the director can go there if they ever choose to - no studio bounds.

[@davidgilbert8614]

So, so wanted to like this film. Unfortunately, can't say that I did. Yes the special effects and the imagery were stellar, but that is the only thing that I can praise it for. The theme and how it was dealt with, particularly the ending, left me quite disappointed and angry. The message this film sends to the world is: robotic AI (good); living human beings (evil and unworthy). I had hoped this film would have highlighted the dangers of AI and why we need to control it at every turn or put the brakes on it altogether. Instead it only highlighted the folly of mankind.

[@julianbektashi5050]

Yeah, but the concept and script is totally cheesy.