The International Date Line, Explained

The date line, it's somewhat of a border, but who is in charge of it?
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[@m.daniels1496]

I’m from the Cook Islands 🇨🇰 and I just want to confirm that your info in this video is 100% spot on in terms of what day the Cook Islands fall in.. Your research and content here is just incredible..thank you 🙌🏾

[@rushikesh1457]

Ok so we got a confirmation that Google is wrong😂😂 Cheers Johnny 🥂

[@TheGameChallenger]

sorry if im being stupid here but aren't the Cook Island people islanders? Or do they have just as good technology as us (those pictures were really misleading) (sorry if im being stupid)

[@m.daniels1496]

@@TheGameChallenger 😆 great question... yea so we have technology just like everyone else.. not going to lie our internet is expensive but it works fine👍🏾 great holiday destination 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@TheGameChallenger]

@@m.daniels1496 that's great, sorry for asking such a stupid question, have a nice day and thank you for answering!

[@theawkwardcurrypot9556]

@@TheGameChallenger most people live with simialr standards nowadays

[@JuanWayTrips]

I can't wait for the future series of Borders when Johnny takes a boat and travels along the whole international date line to expand on this video.

[@causeand3ff3ct]

YES!

[@XerosXIII]

Of course, he promised :D

[@eleventhclara]

PLEASE

[@CarlosAppleduardo]

omG that would be great

[@AlexMcDaniels]

yes please

[@KenKnorr]

I never realized that in some places Amazon could offer "previous day" shipping.

[@arthurroberts491]

That is cute.

[@drakeisacake]

Now that is intresting!

[@domhnallx]

GG

[@ca-ke9493]

lol except that unless the person physically moves from where they ordered the item, to a region in the previous day, that person can never receive the product on the previous day.

[@bird-war]

If youre going from Samoa to American Samoa or back then yes (technically)

[@ravex24]

I was in the Navy and in 2003, we crossed the IDL going West, losing a day, meaning I only experienced 364 calendar days that year. However, we came back in 2004 and crossed the IDL going East, so I experienced an extra day. It was also a leap year in 2004 which means I got to experience 367 days that year.

[@ravex24]

And to top it off, my ship played the movie Groundhog's Day for 48 hrs straight on the TVs as we crossed back over going East. It wasn't awesome but at least my ship had a sense of humor.

[@timmy3982]

You probably have superpowers now

[@9thfromthestar]

13:40 “at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter”, but whose end of the day, Johnny? 😂

[@princesspinkblue]

I see what you did there! 😂👌

[@nerdfighter2004]

nice

[@HelgaCavoli]

Underappreciated comment. This needs more likes!

[@Mercilessonion]

I thought he was gonna explain what happens at the end of the day at first lol

[@JaydenWorth]

amazing

[@solar2028]

This is a man of culture, he puts the sponsorship ad at the end of the video

[@Poseidon-oz9pg]

That dosent really say anything about culture..

[@dihydrogenoxide5109]

@@Poseidon-oz9pg I see that you. are. NOT. a man/woman/attack helicopter of culture.

[@samnjoefiddler2565]

i will watch his ad only bc he thought of us

[@TerribleTonyShow]

a real man of culture doesn't include sponsorships

[@commonsensepolitics297]

Ah... I hadn't noticed. I have Sponsor Block.

[@hurd4978]

Dear lord your editing skills are next level

[@cptyolowaffle]

Lord, your*

[@ashya.pashya]

He works for vox , vox has team of editors and those editors edit his videos

[@hurd4978]

आshu not true! This is his personal channel and he edits the videos.

[@Mirsab]

@@hurd4978 exactly and even on vox he edits his own videos to my knowledge

[@geographer3693]

His understanding of geomatics engineering could use some work

[@dalfifran7572]

I'm a geographer, and i can tell you how hard, and what a pain in the ass is to describe how International Date Line works to common people. 2:25 That animation you do by looking the earth upside down from pole is great. It would help a lot of people to understand the concept of how it works.

[@Rotisiv]

I bet it took forever to get it through your head the first time too.

[@fadel3d]

except flat earthers?

[@Zach014G]

didnt take a braincell to figure out how the date line worked. Some people just are a little slower on the uptake lolol

[@thomasmoore7036]

I always was dumbfounded by it, too much so to bother looking it up. I wondered why the IDL wasn’t GMT since that’s where time was kept.

[@kevinsamuelbo]

If you understand timezones, why Alaska's and East russia's timezones are 1-2 hours not matching the South's opposite ?

[@Trotamundospatricio]

Flat earthers must be freaking out

[@ahnafj416]

😂😂😂

[@h.szymanski]

They are used to denial and cognitive dissonance, so they'll be fine

[@HelgaCavoli]

They probably see these videos like fun fiction.

[@SmouthPole]

😂😂😂

[@play005517]

@@HelgaCavoli It must be like watching fiction fans fighting over some plot holes in the lore.

[@sanjanabindra1496]

As a geography nerd, I always felt so embarrassed telling people this was something I enjoyed. But now, I just show them your videos, cuz you make Geography look so goddamn cool. Thank you!

[@avatarwb]

Um, yeah, me too.

[@saurabhonline9081]

Geography is the real and practical learning..helps understand our nature.

[@darekmistrz4364]

You could say that any topic is interesting, people are just stupid to say that something is boring. They look at everything at surface level.

[@xlnukB0y]

The whole timezone changing thing just to fit it with their own geographic boundaries is soo stupid & complicated, it’s just, it’s stupid

[@DanieltheTruebadour]

Yeah. Geology may rock, but geography is where it's at.

[@manarroumiah8862]

12:41 That moment When you use Google search engine to prove that Google maps are wrong

[@Mobster9114]

It’s a savage move hahaha

[@burstingsanta2710]

Dats Wikipedia

[@saturnatnight3479]

I used Google to destroy Google

[@spoopsiuwu356]

@@burstingsanta2710 no he used google

[@dimitrioslianos511]

if google was correct this video couldn't exist ... so now is fix point in time and space!

[@ThreeProphets]

Dates can have a pretty major impact on trade. Less confusing date hopping between important Pacific nations like Japan and Australia means less delays and easier logistics. I suspect this is why countries like Samoa chose to change sides. So in that way, this does affect what countries get how many resources and when, and is very important. Just one more way we've carved up the planet in the interest of business rather than being easily understandable to the average geographer

[@ikimiyu]

:0

[@deathmetal11111]

And how is that a bad thing? Islands getting this business can have a direct impact on the quality of life for their people. Confusing some hobby geographers at home shouldn't be a consideration for them.

[@Anonymous-df8it]

The math is of the same difficulty though

[@Robespierre-lI]

Yes but, in an era when much of the logistics will be ironed out by algorithms on computers, is it really so consequential anymore? I would want to hear from someone in the business. Personally, i think a world without timezones would be fairly interesting. But that's just s thought experiment

[@Robespierre-lI]

​​@@deathmetal11111 nowhere in that comment did he claim it was "a bad thing" - or a "good thing" for that matter.

[@jk484]

Google Maps shouldn't be considered a definitive source. Nicaragua accidentally invaded Costa Rica in 2010 due to a Google Maps error.

[@blakedake19]

really?

[@brandonofthewastes]

I happened to have caught on to that while looking for routes through the Bosawas. Sorry on behalf of my country, I guess (^_^)

[@spicuzz]

This is a good subject for a next Johnny Harris's video!

[@BraunStavanger]

governments should not rely on international companies and that is a fact

[@tlo1216]

Can you provide a source?

[@BigBoiiLeem]

My favourite part of living ahead of GMT is that when you travel over the IDL, you often arrive at your destination before you left. When I went to the US, I took off from New Zealand at 10:00 AM GMT+12 on Tuesday, and arrived in New York at 4AM on Tuesday.

[@ltpi2621]

Yay a -6 hour flight

[@PROTOTYPEHALO]

That's silly, take a flight from -10 to +10 to skip mondays

[@shahsb_27]

Helps only when you don't have to travel back, or the loss of one day hurts more than gaining extra hours of traveling to west.

[@BigBoiiLeem]

@@shahsb_27 for sure, when I travelled to Vietnam, we lost close to a day on the way over

[@kingastaroth7912]

Does anyone wonder that if you keep flying to the east constantly, with no return to the west, will make you go back in time? I mean, the situation is real, the time you waste traveling makes you lose the time "you gained", but moving constantly to the east, should mean something, shouldn't it?

[@RealEngineering]

Johnny you owe us a Borders episode in Northern Ireland for that one 😂

[@neilohara6227]

Definitely, and explain why he threw in a random picture of a beach in Greece in with his beautiful Pacific islands.

[@ayoubmilkyway5528]

@@neilohara6227 Well you see, Zakynthos is famed for its independent spirit, they unilaterally declared to be in GMT-21.2 million, somewhere during 404 BC, at the height of their power and influence

[@endakilgarriff8218]

Legitimately came down here the instant Ireland was in the circle to see if there was a comment 😆

[@emirkuvvet]

I haven't seen a big KZbin channel comment under another big KZbin channel's video until now

[@sayonarabeats9048]

@@emirkuvvet you fr?😂😂

[@tristandunn4628]

The fun part is that some of these islands are GMT+13 and GMT+14 hours! In fairness, the time zone borders over land are just as messed up. Coming down from us here in the UK, a good half of France is immediately below us, and Spain is all below or to the west of us, yet they prefer to be in a more easterly time zone to be with their neighbours on the same land mass. Interestingly, Portugal is the same as the UK, so the line follows the Spain/Portugal border. I dare say there are similar quirks through Asia and the Americas.

[@miriamrobarts]

In the US, we have a state called Arizona in the southwest that changes time zones so they don't have to deal with Daylight Saving Time like the rest of us. So part of the time they match the states to the North & the other part of the year they match with California to the West.

[@Anonymous-df8it]

Honestly, we should just eliminate time zones and instead consider that other countries have different schedules. No disadvantages, plus you have the advantage of communicating when things are happening far easier

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

@@Anonymous-df8it We could just use UTC without offset everywhere. That is data is already processed. Timestamps are in UTC and the local system adjusts the offset, but saves changes in UTC again.

[@2BoogerFace]

The reason France is in a different time zone actually dates back to the German occupation in World War II, and the same goes for the Netherlands, Belgium, and Luxembourg. Spain also switched time zones at this time (if I were to guess, it'd be because Spain wanted to have positive relations with Germany).

[@phoenixepsilon9851]

6:34 I always find it funny that Zakynthos, Greece makes it to the list of stunning pacific beach pictures.

[@Pretency]

Haha I saw that photo as well and thought, wtf that looks just like Zakynthos. :D

[@Valrie_28]

Same, people should check their sources 😂😂

[@georgetimo7008]

@Joel Scrimshaw same

[@I-M-Pulsive]

That is indeed a stupid mistake :P

[@tiago7036]

Literally thought the same lol

[@AntonWongVideo]

13:08 "Google Maps has something wrong?" **Every country with contested borders that just discovered Google uses dotted lines in other countries' versions of the map** "Damn RIGHT they do!"

[@scaredyfish]

Are they showing people in different countries different things?

[@Enoch916]

@@scaredyfish Yes if both countries A and B claim the same land X Google maps show: Land X is within A's border, a solid line with A IP address within B's border with B IP address A dotted line if you are using not A nor B IP address Example: Kashmir in India/Pakistan, Crimea, Taiwan

[@AntonWongVideo]

@@seangt but in the country(with contested borders)'s google maps, it often shows solid lines over their claims e.g. Kashmir. obviously, each country wants to assert their claim and would be upset at anyone who disagrees or even shows a dotted border

[@Mercilessonion]

@@seangt Yeah, but no country wants to see that there is even a question of the region not being a part itself and thus the op comment

[@AkshayVasant]

@@AntonWongVideo Like Arunachal Pradesh between India and China.

[@tinyj325]

6:34 This is a beach on Zakintos Greece. Definitely not in the middle of pacific.

[@frathouse_music]

Never the less. One of the most beautifull islands there is

[@hmmm4951]

I was laughing my ass of when I saw it

[@rupen42]

It's funny that that's the one that caught my eye the most

[@beastroides]

nah its the island from surfs up thats big z shack

[@theyoutubersfromdenmark8143]

I’ve been there, very beautiful.

[@CristinaVice]

As a Geographer I’ve watched many of your videos and love how your mapping examples show! I suggest later on integrating into Geographic Information Systems! Maybe if you upload the Pacific site layer and Google Maps layer it can be the same depending the coordinate system your looking them. Hope it helps! Greetings from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷 saludos

[@saksham379]

Bro I wanna get really smart at Geography; where should I start from?

[@dxkaiyuan4177]

UK: to further distance ourselves from the rest of Europe, we've decided to move to the other side of the international date line

[@dolphindiverbct8297]

Honestly at this point I wouldn't be surprised

[@dolphindiverbct8297]

@muhammad wafri Yeah I know I think that what I said was a pretty obvious joke

[@thelinktothegame6081]

Can they do that

[@thelinktothegame6081]

muhammad wafri oh yeah

[@musicbyvishar]

@muhammad wafri They already did some weird stuff. The town of Greenwich doesn't have GMT 0 time.

[@javierporrata356]

Boss: I need that done yesterday Kiwi employee: ight Imma head out *flies to Cook Islands ...: I did the job boss

[@aisha5156]

Easy solution?

[@sambeaumont395]

Did the boss go to the Cook Islands too?

[@brookedilworth761]

Wouldn't you have to come from the cook islands to get it done yesterday? Not tomorrow..

[@Pwnstared]

@@sambeaumont395 no, he called him up on the phone.

[@gauravgandhi4642]

@@brookedilworth761 no the cook islands are on west side which means they are aligned with US timeline and Since NZ time is ahead of US than it will be yesterday on Cook islands.

[@livinhappy]

This morning at Google’s headquarters, “Uh.. so I watched this KZbin video today and we’re going to redraw the international date line on Google Maps guys.”

[@dimitriskonstantinidis4644]

Just a quick notice: the picture with the ship wreck that you show at 6:33 claiming to be from Pacific Ocean islands is actually from the beach Navagio in Zakynthos, an island of Greece. I state this so that you can make better references next time, giving every place the correct credits.

[@thankamma1952]

12:43PM

[@colinmcc8564]

Just wanted to add that the people in Greenwich said, "obviously let's make it easy for us and let the people on the other side of the world deal with the complicated part".

[@inhobiswinecellar9571]

well I could imagine the brits are tired of getting in other people's business

[@whitif7412]

what you on about

[@Boby9333]

Go try doing a line that split the entire world in two for the international date line without splitting any country, oh and don't forget that some country also want to use the same date as their biggest economic partner.

[@colinmcc8564]

@@Boby9333 don't overthink my comment, I just think we got lucky with the IDL placement, but then again the planet is 70% ocean.

[@whitif7412]

@@Boby9333 i dont think the sun cares if someone is american LOL

[@dantaylor9132]

6:34 that’s Zacynthos, an island in Greece.

[@johnnyharris]

whoops! i blew that one lol

[@dantaylor9132]

Johnny Harris still a great video

[@shway1]

@@johnnyharris google reverse image search

[@KD__.]

👍 I thought that.

[@Mercilessonion]

This proves Greece Islands are as beautiful as Pacific island Nations

[@Seedaworld]

Wow this is perfect. I literally learning this in online school

[@BearMeOut]

Before the corona, I never expected people saying "online school" as a thing. Back then people just say "read it online" or "online classes" The future is now old man.

[@twishamehta1667]

The quality of video-making here is just absolutely phenomenal. Good fucking job @JohnnyHarris!

[@chillingisliving]

My dad use to be captain of a boat and we had to go from Tahiti to Tonga, we were passing the international date line right before the sun was coming up, in some little dumb way that morning I got to be the first person to see the sunrise for that day, it's dumb and selfish but always enjoyed it.

[@linwengong3264]

That's awesome

[@jmjm1920]

Ancient Tonga Ha'amonga a Maui Stonehenge Calendar as where time begins today 🤔

[@happyspacecat408]

That's not dumb and selfish, that's cool!

[@shameimaru_aya]

That's rather very interesting than selfish.

[@miriamrobarts]

I've caught minor errors on Google maps (directions) before. They really appreciate people sending in corrections, and I saw them fix a couple of mistakes pretty quickly. They will also add businesses you submit.

[@aucklandnewzealand2023]

You can suggest street misinformation and they will aprove it

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Let's not forget that they display different information in different regions. Basically every location with unclear or contested borders will be displayed differently depending on which side of the border you live on.

[@john_molden]

They don't mind the mistakes, it makes it easier to spot plagiarism

[@ClementinesCoins]

6:34 thats actually a picture of zakynthos in greece

[@bmsmusician]

Haha exactly! I had to paus the video and scroll down to if nobody had spotted this...

[@niemand3637]

@@bmsmusician same

[@johncurrie8719]

Another same. I’m paused at 6:35 scrolling too. 😂😉

[@pontification7891]

Σαμε

[@Peter-bp5vw]

Definitely Zakynthos. Stock footage used with no research into where.

[@YOUNABOTH]

Love from Kenya 🇰🇪🇰🇪 your explanation is much simpler and easier to understand than my geography teacher 😂 thanks

[@wahyurahmat7411]

"it doesn't matter at all" - 16 minutes video

[@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan6687]

But it's worth it to watch 😂

[@marcelbalaz5964]

Bu it matters a lot to people living there! That's the reason they made their choices what time they are using. And all time zones are nice example. Extreme one is China, lying in 5 zones, decided to use one.

[@wahyurahmat7411]

marcel balaz you right!

[@kiwiSTV]

marcel balaz yeah I agree, “it doesn’t matter” is such a bad take and ignores the fact Google clearly thinks the Pacific Islanders in these areas aren’t worth their effort, plus the international date line has a massive economic impact and is telling of political and cultural allegiances in the area.

[@orangemonkeykiller]

I'm surprised you ended that on "at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter" because depending on what side of the international date line these nations are on is a big show of who their closest friends and trading partners are. Changing sides can be quite controversial and massively ruffles feathers

[@saksham379]

How bro?

[@aucklandnewzealand2023]

False, they don't really care

[@BangladeshTheBest]

@@aucklandnewzealand2023 you’re wrong, ask me why did Samoa change the date line, or the thousands of other pacific nations on the date line….

[@BangladeshTheBest]

@@zerioxiii so they could trade with Australia and New Zealand, before it was one of the last places. To see sunrise which made ot harder to trade.

[@Scott-py1sd]

Here's a scenario you missed. It's 10:00 on Monday in London (GMT +0). Kiribati is GMT +14, making it 00:00 Tuesday. However in Pago Pago (American Samoa -11GMT) it's still 23:00 on Sunday. Three days at the same time.

[@loveforsberg530]

Corollary: There is never a well-defined date on Earth, as a whole.

[@christianbarnay2499]

@@loveforsberg530 UTC is a well-defined date applicable everywhere. Local times are just an offset forward or backward from that. UTC is also free of seasonal DST changes that are a far worst nightmare than the date line. Because DST results in a 1 hour range being repeated twice and another 1 hour range never existing. That's why all computers truly keep track of time in UTC and only do a conversion to local time for display.

[@houseofwolves_]

Took me a while to fully understand how it works tbh but that's great 👏🏼

[@JohannesN91]

I was waiting this whole video that this kind of scenario about GMT +13 or +14 mentioned... And it not mentioned. But video was great anyways.

[@tmc3455]

There should be just 24 hours in a day! Oh forget it...let's just use 25 hours clocks 🎧

[@canadagood]

I remember reading somewhere - which I can't locate in three minutes of extensive Wikipedia research - that a big argument of Greenwich as Prime Meridian was the relative lack of population that put near the 180 degree anti-meridian. If, for example, the Prime Meridian was somewhat logically located in the mid-Atlantic then the Monday / Tuesday Date Line would run somewhere through New South Wales. If alternatively Jerusalem was chosen then the Date Line would run through Anchorage instead of Kiribati. Picking New York would put the Date Line mess in the middle of East Asia. Choosing mid-Europe makes a lot of sense.

[@pmberkeley]

You can report mapping errors to Google. They get plenty of stuff wrong. I've corrected spelling on lake and river names (this seems to be a common error, since we don't usually use Google maps for bodies of water, so people don't notice it), and due to local highway construction they've been wrong about a local route for several years now.

[@Robespierre-lI]

It's interesting to think about how much less our lives are structured around bodies of water than they once were.

[@DadgeCity]

I find reporting map errors to Google a frustrating process. Often there's no option on the pop-up form to make the necessary correction.

[@pmberkeley]

@@DadgeCity agreed.

[@JonathanSchrock]

My home address is incorrect, and after reporting it twice, it still is not fixed.

[@pmberkeley]

@@JonathanSchrock I imagine that would be difficult for them to verify. With bodies of water and highways, it's fairly easy. It also makes an impact on many people, vs only a few.

[@ObolO00]

I don't know how many people worked on this, but this is A grade national TV quality! Great job!

[@Pepa14pig]

That top look at the earth is one of the best explanations I’ve seen so far

[@sirfer6969]

I don't know why you think we're bored of your graphics, your presentations are excellent. I especially thought the top-down view of the globe made the situation very clear.

[@kuehlschrank4389]

13:38 "At the end of the day it doesn't really matter". At the end of what day? Monday or Tuesday?

[@stefan0ro]

Yes

[@anirudhkulkarni3989]

Sunday

[@arthursoares610]

Both and neither

[@mikker2673]

Stolen comment

[@lasercat538]

Doesn't matter

[@rishabh_gour]

"doesn't really matter" ?? ... yeah, ask a software developer about that.

[@arianheight750]

Headache incoming

[@RJPick1]

Not if you use UTC! ..... despite William Willet coming along and deciding we in the UK would mess around with GMT and it all got difficult again.

[@mhumanworldm]

Hello. I've been summoned

[@Smaylik03]

@@RJPick1 Not really. Some things (like birthdays, for example) must ONLY be stored in dates, not datetimes, meaning it can not be UTC. You basically have to store it in user's timezone. There are more examples of this; not always can you use 00:00/23:59 as starting/ending points, due to timezones like +13 and even +14 being a thing. So UTC is a savior, but definitely not an easy solution. Plus, don't forget you have to convert every single datetime to user's zone coming from the server, then back to UTC coming to the server and sometimes to user's zone on the server. It's not easy task. Definitely a headache.

I mean... the real pain as a software developer is doing all this shit while KNOWING it doesn't really matter.

[@randomguyfromtheinternet5477]

When you realize you can time travel but only for one day

[@carultch]

You aren't really time travelling. You are just going to another place, where people keep track of the time from a different starting point. It's not like you can travel 12 time zones to the east, and know the future in your original time zone.

[@6telephone]

@@carultchr/wooooooosh

[@carultch]

@@6telephone r/thisisntreddit

[@gavin_westrick]

The style of this is so thought out and clean I like it

[@eirinimariachelioudaki7244]

6:34 I'm from Greece and at some point where you showed the pictures, you also added a picture of Zakynthos, which I guess is not in the International Date Line.... but I'm proud you added it! I just love your content and your wife as well!!!

[@BeyondYourDoorstep]

YES! Been waiting for this video for *SIX MONTHS* since you did the video about Greenwich Britain being the center of the map!

[@tony_mt24]

Same here.. Patience is a virtue!

[@ndiamantopoulos]

6:34 that's a picture of the greek island zakinthos on a beach named "shipwreck" not in the pacific but in the ionian sea

[@6610stix]

I guess I can quit wondering what island in the mid-Pacific was formed on top of sedimentary limestone.

[@benstanway8553]

I thought the same. Like that's ship wreck beach in Greece man 🤣🤣

[@MarkoCloud]

Yes, it's Zakynthos.

[@anjunakerry82]

Came here to make the same comment. Saw you beat me to it. Zante is absolutely stunning!

[@RAWRsynchro]

I was scrolling through hoping to see this comment

[@arpad2188]

What a great video! Honestly, I did not even know there's such a line where you can change a whole day! I don't know what I was thinking because I of course knew about time zones. That animation in the video is perfect. But I had to pause it because it was hard to face the reality :D Now I'm thinking of an explanation my friends would understand the first part of (what is the date line) without having access to KZbin or any video in general, and I would put it this way. Point at any location on the globe (preferably a land where people actually live). They would say, "We want the sun exactly above us at noon" - and they have every right to do that. Now you move around the globe at a speed so that the sun is always above, it's always noon for you - and ask people you meet every now and then, they will demand the same - and you grant them that. You do this until you arrive to the last island before your starting point. "Okay guys, you can also have it just like everyone else but you have to accept the fact that your neighbor is one day ahead because I've been travelling for a day since I was there". But of course this point (line) isn't just anywhere but halfway around the world from Greenwich (for reasons not discussed here)

[@akiraamamiya8483]

"Nature isn't good at straight lines" Proceeds to explain that it's in fact not natural but politics based because they basically zigzagged around parts of countries to make sure the country stays in one piece....

[@nurphurecarnium]

Nah.. still nature

[@bskcj1149]

Big F technically humans are naturally made meaning politics are natural so you are right

[@poolofstuff]

@@bskcj1149 Which means the word "nature" is completely arbitrary and useless, because everything in existence is natural and is a result and a part of the universe. The true distinction should technically be "human-made" vs "non-human-made".

[@SwaggerJ]

I think his point is that if you look at the borders and shapes created by nature, you'd be hard pressed to find straight lines of any sort. But we try to divide the globe into straight-line slices to define time. The International Date Line makes it evident that those 2 things are sort of at odds with each other.

[@kermit5092]

I think he's talking about the actual countries as in the physical land mass - like Russia and Alaska aren't square-shaped etc so the line's gotta zigzag between them

[@dragonfury1565]

3:04 Dude explaining his stuff: So right now its noon in Florida Me who lives in Florida and watching this at midnight: Wha-

[@DrWhoo-kz7sw]

It was recorded before it was uploaded and wasn't uploaded on the same day

[@stratis722]

@@DrWhoo-kz7sw rip, r/woooosh

[@xopuxirii3149]

@Dragonfury 15 he used it as example

[@dragonfury1565]

Mathe ist mein Hobby I know, i just noticed how it kinda lined up in a way, i was only trying to make a joke, although it seems some people don’t understand comedy

[@stratis722]

@@dragonfury1565 exactly lmao like am i the only one who understands it

[@laynewebb5986]

There is one explanation that I haven't seen mentioned yet: Google maps contains many intentional errors. This is a long practiced method to detect copied maps. In the olden days, this could be adding a non-existent island or mountain, nowadays its more likely to be a road or a town. Map Men (Jay Foreman) here on youtube did a video on some of these discrepancies that you can find in Google Maps and visited one to show it. That said, it would seem odd to me to do that for the dateline. Adding fake towns and roads is unlikely to cause a map reader too much trouble, but being able to tell which day it is for an island seems like a much bigger deal.

[@callabeth258]

John Green has a whole book called paper towns on this!

[@LadyLexyStarwatcher]

There are also stories about GM actually helping people define their borders when they didn't have the resources to do it them selves after a civil war or some such. My favourite is how depending on where you access it it from the China-India border changes to suite the will of the political powers that influence that region.

[@zidaryn]

@@LadyLexyStarwatcher Yep. And China's is the oddest. The country is correctly mapped, but it's all with a slight distortion/shift.

[@Essutos]

Could you link me that video?

[@rosemaryroscrow2506]

Here's the link for the Map Men video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/epbMcoevYquZoKs

[@rebeccawarner4860]

I live in the UK, and as someone who has only travelled to France so far in my life I have never understood how when people travel they arrive at different times,or get jetlag. After watching your video on 'how England is the centre of the world' and now this video I understand it perfectly. I love how you can take a topic that is seemingly difficult to understand and make it so simple to understand. I have only just found your channel, I am now binge watching your channel and I'm loving what I'm learning from you. ☺️ You are a born teacher and documentary maker, thankyou for sharing your passion for learning, making it easy to understand and also fun and interesting at the same time.

[@MrGbigpapa]

6:34 is Zakynthos Greece. Not anywhere near the Pacific Ocean.

[@notyourbusiness3751]

I thought I was the only one to notice. I live near Zakynthos and that pissed me off.

[@askannav2094]

HAHAHA thats awesome !

[@Momo-xs8mo]

It’s hard to get stock video of specific things. The video got the point across

[@flora.lennihan]

Amazing editing Johnny! Could you make a video about your editing workflow and how to stay organized when tackling a project? Thanks!

[@MatthewStinar]

I think he sells a course.

[@NorthOCkook]

The “notch” looks like a bodybuilder flexing his bicep

[@simonherzberger9638]

I always thought it looks like a hammer

[@SwiftCreationStudio]

_Not at all what I was thinking._

[@bhatnagarsumit]

That's a Tap... Which supplies water to Pacific ocean

[@APate_13531]

POV: A Pacific Island just declared independence and says the want to be on the other day-side. International date line: intensified breathing

[@BPed]

“At the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter.” At the end of which day, Johnny??

[@MrSorbias]

Yesterday

[@nilspochat8665]

The day the world has an international standard for time the US will still measure it in hours Fahrenheit or something

[@Pwnstared]

Yes, the correct way.

[@antarcticpenguin]

@@Pwnstared literally only the us, liberia and myanmar use Fahrenheit. and nasa uses celsius.

[@jaymoge]

Celsius is dumb. Water freezes at 32° not 0° sheesh, that's like, below freezing...duh. Or in my made up language water freezes at blue, melts at yellow and boils at red. Pretty easy really

[@barrycragg1710]

@@antarcticpenguin It's only the US now. And then it's only your general population. As a scientist I have worked with many of your US scientists and they are all bilingual in metric/imperial. They have to be, the potential for confusion when discussing anything with the rest of the world is just to great. Historically there have already been one or two cock-ups such as the Mars lander that (very expensively) crashed into Mars rather than land, as there was a mistranslation between metric and imperial units. Your general population is still struggling to reach Imperial anyway, don't most of your people work in "cups"? It's odd that you still use Imperial as after the American war of independence there was a concerted effort to dump things British, understandably. This is why you drive on the right rather than the left like the UK. Along with abiolishing feudal land taxes, primogeniture and the aristocracy. I suppose it is just because a working metric system didn't arrive until 1799, otherwise I suspect you would have adopted it just to remove Imperial.

[@fossilfountain]

Canadians also use the imperial system on a daily basis but are not too vocal about it since making a transition to another system is really hard and ultimately not such a big issue compared to other things

[@blueblazerable]

I have this weird obsession with geography and history and this kind of video really makes me alive. Thank you Hartis for existing!!! Very informative video. You deserve even more subscribers!

[@BigBrodyOde]

"My world view has just shifted slightly" I see what you did there lol

[@WojtekSiudzinski]

Ummm isn't 6:34 Zakynthos, Greece? 😅

[@gersondesouza6598]

yes my observation exactly! that is Zakynthos

[@johnnyharris]

whoops!!

[@DarkUSS]

That's definitely the Navagio beach in Greece.

[@zandie12]

"Johnny Harris is.... wrong? Johnny Harris got it wrong??!"

[@thr0z3n]

Was going to say. Bit of an oppsie there Johnny! :D

[@gavwah]

"Here's Great Britain" *puts a square about GB and Ireland*.

[@h.inusitatus]

Great Britain and Little Britain.

[@camarch]

Biritish Isles, oh well.

[@DaanHoogland]

@@h.inusitatus little Britain, also known as Brittany, is part of France nowadays.

[@michaeladkins6]

Northern Ireland

[@stkeeley]

I noticed that too I was like! He put the square around THE REPUBLIC of Ireland! We haven't been part of Britain for 98 years!

[@DaTina]

I want to know what times zones are like in Antarctica.......

[@ms0_u]

I know right?

[@petruflex5569]

6 months night 6 months day

[@dominiklehn2866]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Antarctica there you go,its kind of complicated,just look at the image

[@youtubeblue4922]

@@dominiklehn2866 freaky

[@anawesomepet]

He means where all time zones overlap. I think...

[@qwertymanseter]

6:26 "Just remember that the international date line runs through some of the most beautiful ocean in the world, and it's worth just looking at it for a second." Greeks at 6:33: *mr worldwide*

[@AaronRiceMedia]

Johnny: Includes Ireland within the circle he drew for 'Great Britain' Me: Now I can't trust anything is factual within this video

[@graham6525]

It doesn't help him out when he's supposed to be the guy who knows all about borders!

[@ballisticbee6001]

You also gotta remember that his original circle included France and I think some other countries if you zoomed in

[@pd4165]

Ooooh, Ireland. This might start an argument. Ireland is in NO WAY part of Great Britain. Great Britain is England, Scotland and Wales. For now. The Scots will probably/possibly escape in the next ten years. The UNITED KINGDOM is Great Britain and Northern Ireland. At the moment. However.......all of Ireland is part of the British Isles. Not part of Britain though. It's the island of Ireland. It's just geography. In-between England and Ireland there is the Irish Sea - in it is the Isle of Man - their flag is a swastika. Never say that, they will get REALLY mad. But it is (the swastika is a Norse symbol, the Nazis stole it and ruined it for everyone). It is part of the British Isles but is not British - it's a Crown Dependency. The UK runs their defence and the Queen is their monarch, but that's it. Just off the coast of France there are the Channel Islands. These are feudal bailiwicks (yah, seriously) - crown dependencies again, but slightly different. They came with William the Conqueror as part of the Duchy of Normandy and the French froggies never got them back, and some of them are well pissed off about that. It's a bit of a red herring, for fun. However.....there is another part of Britain and it's a massive part of France...Brittany! It's 'only' culturally British ie a Celtish kingdom, which didn't become part of France until the 16th century. But the Ireland is part of the British Isles thing - likely to start a fight. It's geography, not politics.

[@ruslayer3888]

@@pd4165 swastika is hindu and the Isle of man flag has a 3 sided leg thing not a 4 sided one. And Brittany was not part of Britain. The Bretons migrated there when it was a colony after the collapse of the roman empire. But apart from those you are fairly dead on.

[@austinharding9734]

oh for god sakes he admitted it was sloppy thats why he made a neat square....geeez

[@sicboi]

As someone who used to be in the same work area as PacIOOS, their mapping of the International Date Line is the correct one, so your pick is correct 🙂👍

[@User-3O3]

13:13 Even though I had never heard of Pacioos before watching this video, I would've still taken their word over Google's on which version of the Date Line is accurate.

[@guilhermesilva98]

yeah I wouldn't event think twice before trusting Pacioos over Google

[@Sheriden.]

True. These people study and keep up on this

[@KarlSnyder-jh9ic]

I appreciate how much effort you put into this video. The "looking down on the N Pole" scenario helped push back my ignorance of the IDL a little. I like the pictures of the islands. We live in a beautiful world and I am so poorly traveled. I like the picture of the Greenwich Observatory. It is on here the time zones are based and so how everyone's clocks are set.

[@jmulvey371]

Welcome to today's episode of "Drunk Geography."

[@____600]

except the geographers are the drunk ones and can’t agree

[@Perririri]

2 views, 9 likes

[@Perririri]

2 views, 9 likes

[@Holly_woodNation]

Flat earthers must be freaking out

[@gw5976]

Amazing video. When I traveled back to Chile from New Zealand I traveled early one day on a 12-hour flight and arrived the same day earlier than I had left in New Zealand.

[@gw5976]

Great video, as usual. I think your final message, about the Google Maps error and what makes you think that error, is correct, borders are only a convention, lines that move throughout history and will continue to move. And unfortunately, they keep us in a constant cold war, in addition to generating separation between people who just want to be happy and live a full life. I think what is happening with the Covid-19, is that we can see and share the daily routine of staying at home, and realize that on the other side of the "line" there is someone who is not different from me, and who enjoys the same as me in life. Down the borders.

[@derkach7907]

"At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter." Child i one of those islands:" So.. No school?"

[@0Raik]

Happiest child ever.

[@sreekanthpillai7778]

But the real question is end of which day ?

[@masteryodaa1686]

This mans sacrificing his life to tell us bout borders. Respect

[@Yoyomeyo]

Omg that means most of Kiribati would’ve lost an entire day when they decided to be on the other side of the International date line.. what if that day was your birthday? D:

[@Error-hg6jn]

What on earth will happen when someone missed his birthday?. D:

[@kali3828]

They stay the same age until another year passes

[@essigautomat]

simply party the day before and after in order to average it out 🎉

[@ltpi2621]

Trueeee

[@ltpi2621]

@@kali3828 what about the people born on the 29th of February?

[@regentalwharf5310]

Johnny: makes video about the international date line Me: you had my curiosity, now you have my attention

[@bebeksuper100]

It feels like he got the whole vox's crew with him, but no he did it alone😱

[@euricthor]

I wouldn't put setting a dateline to arbitrariness ("it doesn't matter"), but instead, it is about geopolitical and economical influence of one state to another; considering Australia's and NZ's economical influence on the Pacific Islands-- it reduces commercial and logistical confusion.

[@alexaleiting9682]

So I’m taking AP Human Geography this year as a freshman which will be my first AP class. As summer homework we have to map a bunch of different things on a map, one of which happens to be the international date line. Now I had never heard of this line before nor saw it. I had no idea what it did or was meant for. I googled it to map it and was confused why there were so many different versions and why it was so misshapen. I pick a version of it to draw and didn’t think anything of it. After watching this video I am completely fascinated. I had no idea a line could be so interesting. This video was so freaking cool and now my teacher might think I’m smart when they bring it up in class and I know what it’s for lol. Thanks for the awesome information

[@nevreiha]

You circled Ireland with great Britain as great Britain, I'm not annoyed as an Irish man, I'm just annoyed as a geography man

[@Cosmic_Love]

B1209Y your cover photo will probably give me nightmares

[@mhtsoskotrotsos9856]

at 06:34 the image he uses is from Greece www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk00vlgKuAnrhqqcdIiL2UTxd3ZELmA%3A1591093494800&ei=9ijWXqS0MLSW1fAP3KmL0A8&q=shipwreck+greece&oq=+shipwreck+gree&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQARgAMgUIABDLATIFCAAQywEyBQgAEMsBMgUIABDLATIFCAAQywEyBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeOgQIABBDOgIIADoHCAAQChDLAVCQUFjuZGCJbGgAcAB4AIABswGIAcgGkgEDMC42mAEAoAECoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdpeg&sclient=psy-ab

[@serenkeating7672]

Hear hear

[@deathtoluke]

He's American. He doesn't understand the difference between Great Britain and British Isles

[@archdruidbookwalter951]

​@@deathtoluke I'm American and I know the difference between Great Britain and the British Isles. Great Britain is the island that Scotland, Wales, and England are on, British Isles is Great Britain + Ireland.

[@raphaelvrahimis964]

6:34 that's Zakynthos in Greece that's in the Ioanian Sea nowhere close to the Pacific

[@simonuser]

Hé probably just searched for pacific coasts and got that as a result. It’s pretty hard knowing where every coast in the world is so if it’s in google searches for pacific coast and looks kinda like a pacific island you would assume it’s somewhere in the pacific. He doesn’t know it’s in Greece

[@raphaelvrahimis964]

@@simonuser ok you can do a reverse image search before making the video I guess and if you don't know something do you research better before posting

[@jaygarret992]

@@raphaelvrahimis964 chill my guy its one img that doesnt affect the video a lot

[@mad_160realrealreal]

@@raphaelvrahimis964 Do you know how much more work it would be? Hours of someone's life wasted so 1 image that barely affects the video doesn't sneak in.

[@wizewunz]

Jonny: has existential crisis about Google maps Also Jonny 2 seconds later: It’s doesn’t matter at all.

[@richardcrichton2228]

"It doesn't matter" Someone who has never worked in IT, set up a phone or owns a computer in the Pacific Islands.

[@MK007-YT]

Why do I have a feeling that it is a bit of a headache to have to do that, in that part of The World.....

[@richardcrichton2228]

If > 6million equates 50 then I guess so. Pacific countries (and their population) that moved the date line to adjust to its boarders: Kiribati 🇰🇮 120,000 Samoa 🇼🇸 200,000; American Samoa 🇦🇸 55,000 Tonga 🇹🇴 105,000 Fiji 900,000 New Zealand 4.8 million (smaller islands like Tuvalu,...not included)

[@tomato-v8x]

@@richardcrichton2228 New Zealand does not belong in that list. It is no where near the International Date Line compared to the small islands that are actually near it. Point is, life will still go on whether or not their opinions are heard. Stop being so triggered over that one phrase.

[@richardcrichton2228]

@@tomato-v8x Well that's cute. My background as a Pacific Islander (Samoan and New Zealand nationalities) suggest you should learn a thing or two. I'll get you started, Chatham Island is part of New Zealand.

[@tomato-v8x]

@@richardcrichton2228 Then you write down the population for Chatham Island ONLY and put (New Zealand) next to it. Do not include the entirety of New Zealand's population just because of that one island. You also don't include the entire British mainland population when finding the population of one of its colonies. The same thing applies.

[@cameronsteel6147]

The date line is something that’s interested me too. Basically, there’s no internationally agreed upon definition so every mapmaker just draws it roughly corresponding to how countries have chosen their time zones. The reason Google has some places on the wrong side is probably just that they didn’t notice. Ships will often choose their own time for internal uses, but the “1917 Anglo-French Conference on Time-keeping at Sea” recommended that ships follow a country’s timezone when in territorial waters, and otherwise adopt an hourly timezone based on exact 15° wide slices. This is the ‘standard’ used when communicating externally to the ship.

[@ropro9817]

Johnny Harris: I love when you go deep. Wish I had a teacher like you in high school!

[@cbchang6200]

Thank you Johnny! I just looked up the International Date Line for the first time, because I am planning a trip to the south pacific. When I looked for an image of the International Date Line, I was very surprised to see it was not a straight line. I said to myself, "What the Hey?" Your video has explained it perfectly for me. Where I am planning on going will be on the Tuesday side of the date line.👍😊💖

[@srikarvelavarthipati7323]

this man is the best infographics editor ive ever seen like how does he make these graphics.

[@archit9919]

After Effects Adobe

[@daniel1286]

When is come to a business day the international date line is very important - specially when markets open and close.

[@Soapy_0725]

CAN WE NOT LIKE TALK ABOUT THE TIME AND EFFORT JOHNNY PUT INTO THIS AND ALL THE RESEARCH AND THAT AND THE VIDEO EDITING AND ALL THAT STUFF-

[@kobil316SH]

Turn off your caps, dork.

[@Soapy_0725]

@@kobil316SH :>>

[@stevosteve]

Absolutely the best IDL explanation anywhere . . . . just not sure if I just watched it in a Monday or a Tuesday 😅. Brilliant, thank you.

[@youaregay8762]

Is time travel real? Me: “Yes, I have proof.” *goes into Tuesday*

[@abbiebyrne502]

Bro circled ‘Britain’ and included Ireland, thought he was going to fix it with the square, I verbally shouted when he didn’t lmaaaooo

[@drawde_064]

Abbie Byrne true but I guess he was trying to get the point across and not worry about detail as it would’ve been hard to include Norther Ireland but not Ireland.

[@roryquirke1002]

@@drawde_064 his video is literally called borders, I would expect him to get them right

[@anonymousvlogsprivate7090]

Minimi

[@eruno_]

he probably meant British Isles not Britain

[@abbiebyrne502]

Drawde_064 yeah like I understand for convenience sake, but being Irish myself I can’t help but squirm anytime someone mislabels us

[@tlam3028]

This mans having an existential crisis over Google being a wee bit wrong.

[@MeatsackMiracle]

Could mean the difference of keeping your job or not... Unless you work for Google...

[@SiamHossain7]

It's obviously satire, Johnny has a knack for it, he did it a lot in his flat earth video.

[@devtrash]

Wait til he finds out about taiwan

[@ChristelVinot]

It's just a play on how important humans have made google a super important, all-knowing thing. It's not all-knowing after all? WwWwhOoAaAa I cAn'T BeliEvE iT Lololol

[@swayampravodasgupta2956]

Johnny: Nature isn’t too good with straight lines Globe: Gotcha! Everyone else: what’s a straight line?

[@MeatsackMiracle]

Thus the beer drinking saying "It's five o'clock somewhere"!

[@MartinOmander]

When I drink nowadays, I say "it's 2020 everywhere -- you've earned that drink".

[@amandasanchez2000]

It's not the first time Google Maps has made a mistake in tracing borders... The border between Costa Rica and Nicaragua is off (I don't know if it still is) and because of that, both countries got into a territorial dispute that had to be solved in an International Court.

[@michaelmauzy4477]

I may b wrong,but it may b time for an update for google

[@cjwhite7801]

Amanda Sánchez google stopped highlighting boarders in disputed areas. It’s like they just stopped trying to not make anyone mad

[@conorwalsh471]

That might not be a mistake. Both countries may have a different opinion on where the border is. So whatever country you’re in they have the border that the country views it as, and it could be different if you go to another country.

[@sm_mikhailovna5126]

My brother watched this vid with me and he suddenly said, "It's like time travel."

[@justsomeguywithamustache532]

He is‘nt really wrong

[@wa3ter]

Thank you brother. You made this amazingly simple and your AE skills are great!

[@rentzepopoulos]

What really blows my mind is the more-than-24 timezones that this line has created... There are UTC-11 up to UTC+14 (www.timeanddate.com/time/map/)

[@perrinromney4555]

Although not all time zones are on the hour, so 24 as a number becomes arbitrary.

[@Nesisorator]

@Rodrigo Rex Whats even more wild is those +30 min time zones aren't besides each other, they're ABOVE (meaning north/south difference) each other, just check out Australian time zones.

[@ebisk]

@@Nesisorator What do you mean? Do you mean the piece of land that belongs to QLD above SA? I thought NT/SA had the same timezone?

[@A.Martin]

@Rodrigo Rex there is some at 15 minutes too

[@christianbarnay2499]

You missed the UTC-12 timezone that contains two islands. Plus all the half- and quarter-hour offsets. There is currently a total of 38 timezones (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UTC_time_offsets).

[@puneetsonpal5340]

Make a video on Australian time zones It's interesting as well

[@carultch]

Yeah, like why Darwin and Adelaide aren't on GMT+9, which would be much more logical.

[@terel9570]

Google maps: make one mistake “I can’t go on, leave me to die here”

[@BigDH28]

🤣😂 touché! 👍👌

[@MrMackmack5778]

This Man is answering questions I didn't even know that I had