The Irish in Australia, 1988

Echo of a Distant Drum
One in three Australians has Irish origins - and this is reflected in the national character. The humour, the sense of self mockery; ideals of fair play, the dislike of pomp and bombast; the celebration of noble failure, are all characteristics both Irish and Australian
The story of the Irish in Australia has been one of conflict, often echoing dramatic events in Ireland. It's a history that has been potentially so divisive that it has been ignored. But it is the key to understanding why Australia has become the democratic nation that it is and yet remains ambivilent on national issues.
This program shows the alternative face of white Australia, the one they chose to ignore.
Siobhan interviewed a number of prominent Irish-Australians for this series, including critic Robert Hughes and, shortly before his death, the late Justice Lionel Murphy.
The Irish in Australia - Echo of a Distant Drum was produced by Orana Films for the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, and Radio Telefis Eireann, with the assistance of the Australian Bicentennial Authority and the Australian Film Commission.
ABC 1988
TV documentary, 3x52 minute episode
Produced by Richard Dennison
Directed by Michael Balson, Matthew Flanagan and Richard Dennison
Written by Siobhan McHugh and Richard Dennison
Based on an original treatment by Patrick and Deidre O'Farrell
'Enthralling', Mike Harris, The Bulletin
'It will undoubtedly widen the horizons of your knowledge'Phillip Adams, The Australian
'May upset a lot of English viewers', David Williams, The West Australian
'The Irish side of Australia's' character is alive and well', Mark Whittaker, Sunday Telegraph

[@castleofsong9620]

Thoroughly enjoyed these documentaries in 2021

[@Truther2001]

I'm a Dub watching this in Malta. Been here 3yrs. Lived in Italy for 10yrs prior. My brother lives in Adelaide, my dream is to scrape enough money together to bring my kids down to visit him, and his family. I love my country and fellow countrymen (well, most of them) but, fuck me, I need sunshine in my bones. I would have loved to have been on that great adventure to the Queensland outback over 100yrs ago. Great doc. Tnx 4 posting.

[@extraqs]

Adelaide is a beautiful city with a lovely Mediterranean climate and none of that awful humidity. Come and visit - you won’t regret it.

[@mariapierce2707]

I hope you get to go as soon as things calm down! stay safe now

[@mathonamoore123]

Lucky you!!! I love Malta. Sliema is where we stay, when we go on holidays. I want sunshine too. I hate our weather in Ireland x

[@revol148]

@Gavin Fitzsimons join the club - my regret was not clearing out of grey, northern Europe when I had the chance to back in the late 1990's when I was in Oz on a working holiday visa.My landlord at the time even admitted she was sad the Paddies and the Brits are not emigrating to Oz in the numbers they used to - with the Chinese now taking their place.

[@billymack333]

C’mon Gavin... come on over, Irish lads with Heart always welcome.

[@adrianoclincho1852]

I'm a Dub watching in Kildare (live here 26 years now) great film and channel how Ireland has changed from 1988 when this film was made for bless all for 2021💓🇨🇮

[@anthonykilgannon3443]

@Daniel stevens 😂😂😂😂

[@eddyfitzgerald2518]

I'm from Waterford,I used to live in clane and kilcock,I live in Arizona now.

[@royaltararanger2125]

@@eddyfitzgerald2518 hello from royal hill tara county meath ireland hope all good

[@eddyfitzgerald2518]

@@royaltararanger2125 I was up in Enfield a few times back in the day, lovely place

[@vinryan3267]

Dublin to Kildare ? I ride that far on my bike to work each day. There are blokes in my suburb who could mow Meath on a Saturday afternoon.

[@hallohallo1332]

Well, i was chatting on the phone to a friend this morning and she happened to mention that her family had considered moving to Australia back in the '60s. Next time I looked at KZbin there was this video sitting at the top of my feed! Really enjoyed it (even if it's unnerving to have our phone calls 'monitored'),

[@jimmieoakland3843]

Ah, John McCormick singing "You'll Remember Me." We had an album of his around the house when I was young. God bless my grandparents, immigrants from Cork and Mayo.

[@abrennan6969]

Thanks for this. Shame we get operation transformation in Ireland instead of these heroic stories

[@mariankelly8224]

Absolutely agree, programmes such as this are much more interesting than watching people lose weight.

[@sunny9233]

💯 agree

[@Kitiwake]

About 5 years ago I met an Aussie tourist in Ireland who asked me: " How come all the shops here have Australian names"? True to a word.

[@cristobal5096]

I can sort of relate to that. It wasn't until I got older that I realised a lot of really common names in Australia (both first and last names) of my friends, sports players, media personalities etc are actually Irish in origin. I never really thought anything of it, just thought they were typical 'Aussie' names haha

[@vinryan3267]

@@cristobal5096 I can absolutely relate to it. Ireland's full of Australians. I've seen my brother in law and a neighbour in a church in Letterkenny, an old girlfriend in a bar in Dublin, a bloke I worked with on the Cherbourg-Rosslare Ferry, a trio of blokes I was at school with outside St Vincent's School in Glasnevin, my deceased unkle in O'Connell Street., my grandmother in Belfast, an old mate in Tralee, all dead ringers, the list goes on

[@brianmurphy60]

@@cristobal5096 m

[@warrenmilford1329]

I can understand that unfortunately. So many Australians come across as 'Proud Aussies', yet know little of their own origin stories, or of Australians in general. I've even asked someone once about their Irish surname. They had no idea it was Irish. His family had been in Australia so long that it just became an 'Australian' name to him. Also he wasn't Catholic, so didn't have that classic Irish Catholic identity.

[@vinryan3267]

@@warrenmilford1329 That bloke's 1,000 years ahead of his time, in 3021, Milford and Ryan will be regarded as Australian names, just as we think of Fitzgerald as an Irish name but it's really a Norman, ergo French, name. As you get into your reading, you'll find lots of Milfords, or derivatives thereof, in Ireland and the rest of the British Isles, humans aren't all stay at homes. I've always regarded Pearse or Pierce as Irish names. Padraig Pearse's father was an English Stonemason who went to Ireland to take up the opportunities in the booming trade in building Catholic Churches following the 1880 Emancipation Act, met a lass and stayed. Thinking it through, you could argue that Ireland's secession from Union started with an English stonemason.

[@bretdouglas9407]

What a wonderful documentary. I love and admire the Irish people and Australia

[@dwingham5219]

I left Ireland 2 years ago to Australia and its been tough living away from home i cant imagine what it was like back then

[@warrenmilford1329]

Yea it would have been hard back then. If you feel particularly homesick, you can just jump on a plane. Back in the day once they got here, especially if they were convicts, they stayed here, never to see family and friends again. Even for immigrants in the '50's and '60's, going home, especially cost wise, would have been much harder compared to today. Having said that I hope everything is going good for you in Australia and you are enjoying your new land.

[@vinryan3267]

@@warrenmilford1329 i'm with Warren, D Wingham, I hope you prosper here, too. You don't have much choice for a couple of years, yet, anyway.

[@warrenmilford1329]

@@vinryan3267 G'day Vin, how's things? Hope every thing has been going good for you and you're handling the covid dramas. Thankfully we haven't had any lockdowns up my way for awhile.

[@vinryan3267]

@@warrenmilford1329 You're lucky you don't live in Melbourne, Warren, we are in the 4th lockdown, due to partially end midnight tomorrow. Melbourne is the most densely populated city in Australia and the State Government hasn't done very well. During that 87 infection free days stint, I hadn't bothered getting the jab but did so yesterday, more with an eye to future lockdowns than anything, a factor in the lockdowns is the low take up of the vaccine. Fingers crossed.

[@warrenmilford1329]

@@vinryan3267 Yea, I hope things get back to normal for you folks soon. Speaking of jabs, I got one today actually. A Melb couple are in hospital on the Sunshine Coast, cause the woman has tested positive. They illegally cleared out from Melb during the lockdown, and drove through N.S.W. on their way up here. So now they have to contact trace at all the places they stopped. Talk about irresponsible. I hope we don't get any lockdowns because of them.

[@CaseyKCRichards]

Just watched the Irish in America , and Canada and Argentian .. the irish are everywhere. I was born in Ireland but emigrated to California … i miss Ireland. ☘️

[@Astro-bq3ld]

I may have been born here, my parents and there parents before them, no matter how long ago we came here from ireland, i still feel somewhat homesick after watching this, of a place ive never been to. Strange feeling, maybe i should visit ireland someday, thanks for sharing.

[@jamesharryward5595]

Go ! You'll feckin' love it ..... you'll feel the connection up through your feet + you'll bust out cryin' for the love of it Sláinte x

[@judyengle7728]

You will see people in Ireland that resemble your family.

[@JohnDoe-vz7bn]

@@jamesharryward5595 where the fuck are you from?

[@vinryan3267]

@@judyengle7728 and your neighbours, the people you went to school with and more. Ireland's full of Australians

[@deirdreday8731]

I’d rather be Irish than English. The English are not liked throughout the world for their plundering, looting, stealing of artefacts , destruction, disrespect for colour and Creed. Loose morals and promiscuity ! A lot of European Countries don’t like to see the English come to their area on holiday as they are rude, loud and rowdy,, brazen and vulgar. This to the Irish is not new. The Irish Culture is stronger than ever though. The English are not thought of well, and while the Irish still go to work in England they don’t forget when in the past they were among those who were refused accommodation , along with “dogs and the Blacks. “ Great Nations are always a threat to the despots and the greedy, and the Power Seekers . I love Ireland and hope to see it a 32 County once again . We are awake and still look forward to the “New Ireland” for EVERYONE . Peace, Prosperity and the Working together of minds and Hearts !

[@edmundhamill2916]

great documentary ,,great music,,,thanks for uploading

[@andrewstones2921]

As a British expat living in Ireland now it’s great to see old footage of Ireland as it was. I’ve spent some time in Australia and I can imagine it was very hard for Irish people to adapt, but the Irish are hard working decent family oriented people and as such they were just the kind of people that Australia needed at the time that the first Irish arrived In Australia. I have a great respect for the Irish.

[@martinhanley9524]

God bless you Andrew ! 👍

[@vinryan3267]

@@martinhanley9524 Amen, on La le Padraig

[@patrickglennon6834]

thanks, nice compliment

[@GameCastCubed]

@Mr. Crash Bandi What are you on about i'd love to hear you say that in an irish pub and i'd enjoy watching other lads beat the piss out of ye

[@kidalcoholic4092]

immigrant*

[@PeterShieldsukcatstripey]

my great grand mother was from Cork.

[@RaulMeatFactory1975]

I'm a Dub born n' bred who went to Australia's East Coast in 1999, unfortunately I failed to conjure the discipline needed to make a life for my self there during that time. While I was there I do remember having the privilege of working with some older Irish who had left Ireland in the 1960's - 80's. I much enjoyed being there then and watching this documentary today.

[@bernadettemchugh4861]

Loved your vido Amazing beautiful ❤ ❤

[@MaryFaulkner-r3k]

Brilliant brilliant miss my homeland

[@Johnconno]

Forced to die in a distant concentration camp. The cruelty of the guards is legendary, the guards were all modern day Australians. Brutal bastards.

[@sliat1981]

Australia has more Irish than the population of Ireland. It also has the second highest percentage of Irish of any country expect Ireland

[@marycollins2918]

Sean Orioda music wold make you miss home. The only problem you are at home

[@irenemax3574]

The music is more heart-wrenching when one is far from home. I miss the sweet pain of nostalgia, dreaming of Ireland’s green fields whilst living in a city in the USA.

[@j2msu341]

Left Belfast 22 years ago for Perth and never looked back,only one regret........I didn't do it sooner !

[@padraigsisk4057]

I went to Melbourne in 95, enjoyed my stay, I was just a restless native, I'm jealous of your new adventure

[@lallyoisin]

TV drama 'The Sullivans' was made around this time (or at least it was televised at this time. I was 16 ... never missed it!

[@brucevilla]

Thanks for Uploading.

[@kenz001]

Fantastic documentary brought back some memories as an ex emigrant

[@damianmcdonagh7908]

I chose New York in 1988.

[@Abcd-hr9ot]

Bronx

[@damianmcdonagh7908]

@@Abcd-hr9ot Flushing, Queens, Washington Heights in Upper Manhattan and later Sunset Park, Brooklyn.

[@wfl6887]

Lower east side

[@pmacc3557]

Still there kid?

[@rayosullivan4398]

I chose California in 1985

[@barrywarznal9386]

"nothing worse than the pain of parting" ....Heres a message to all you Irish - Do your DNA , bring your familys home , the ones you forgot , 100s of 1000s from the 1790s rebels to the 1000s of orphans forgotten , not by us , but by the fams back home !!!

[@Peter-k2j]

so many good docs on this channel

[@DPK12]

Great documentary. Wonder if they still own the land or have the Chinese taken ownership. is Padric still in Australia

[@vinryan3267]

if it's 'up to us, other countries, including the Chinese, will be tenants. We know a bit about tenancy.

[@eoinmurray2421]

Don't it when I was there the japs where buying everything and more 😢

[@seandaniels9168]

I loved that programme, proud to be Irish.

[@Rustsamurai1]

Pride before a drunken fall.

[@seandaniels9168]

@@Rustsamurai1 I dont drink, so maybe on this occasion its you thats tripped up, & now gravity beckons.

[@tonymurray814]

@@Rustsamurai1how do u like them little green apples dickhead!!🤓

[@boycesfriend]

For such a small country the Irish are truly remarkable-they are really amazing in terms of politics and influence.

[@vinryan3267]

Half the World's troubles are caused by the inhabitants of small islands off the coast of continents, Britain, Taiwan, Sri Lanka, New Guinea. The Irish are inhabitants of a small island off the coast of a small island off the coast of a continent. No surprise they'd be troublesome.

[@JosephE-yd6ks]

@@vinryan3267 Troublesome? You obviously know nothing about history. The Irish have been invaded by other countries for thousands of years. The Vikings, the Normans, the British. They all invaded and slaughtered.

[@freedomunltd]

@@vinryan3267 Vin, the Irish people suffered centuries of subjugation, genocide, terror, en forced removal and slavery to other parts of the world, wholesale outright theft of their lands, criminalization and prohibition of their Gaeilge language, customs, religious and ownership of property, of education. Ireland was known as the Land of Saints and Scholars with its literary and musical talent in proportion to its size/population, making it one of the most creative and productive peoples on this planet. Its persecuted people did not break si please stop your completely false statement which amounts to nonsensical gibberish.

[@vinryan3267]

@@freedomunltd Your humour bypass is showing, Jeanne. To balance your account of the sufferings of the inhabitants of Ireland over the last 800 years, none of which I disagree with or is news to me, archeology hasn't come up with any evidence of conflict beyond intra Ireland disputes, indeed the Irish were raiders of England and Wales, slave traders, St Patrick being one and invaders of Scotland.

[@vinryan3267]

@@JosephE-yd6ks Humour bypass, J. I'm not sure I'd call the Viking raids and settlements invasion and Brian Boru put a stop to the continuation of raids early in the 11th Century, anyway. There was really one invasion, the 13th Century Norman invasion which lasted until the 20th Century, that's 800 years, not thousands. It's a bit harsh accusing me of knowing 'nothing' about history on the back of an obviously absurd proposition about small islands and continents.

[@PAGANONYMOUS]

Personally I think this is a really good documentary. it doesn't just focus on the Catholic Irish, it includes all of them even the Anglo Irish. It's hard to find documentaries about the Irish who didn't support Irish independence. even if you don't support an idea it's good to to consider all sides.

[@billymack333]

We Love our Irish brothers...plenty of Heart & Soul and decency.

[@markmay184]

Fascinating, my grandfather, David Dunlop, born 1886 in Moneycannon, County Antrim, sailed from Ireland for Australia in 1912

[@anthonykilgannon3443]

Scottish plantation with that name

[@markmay184]

Yes, I’m pretty sure you’re correct. That’s what my research told me. Interestingly, he was Presbyterian by birth, but certainly no church goer. Sailed for Australia, and married a devout Catholic here - couldn’t have happened in Ireland 😀

[@anthonykilgannon3443]

@@markmay184 amazing what research can do in helping piece a family jigsaw together.its all fascinating regarding different faiths.of course you are correct in saying a mixed marriage wouldnt have worked in ireland.backlash from both sides of the divide unfortunately.

[@pmathews109]

@@markmay184 The Presbyterians were often horribly treated by the British, some of them came to be leaders in all the Irish rebellions.

[@markmay184]

No doubt @Paul. The documentary is misleading, giving the impression that Scottish immigrants (plantation) to Ireland just comprised of the “the landed gentry” the rich and idle - that’s just rubbish and factually wrong. The documentary got plenty wrong about the Irish in Australia 🇦🇺 too

[@gailday3781]

Pride of Killarney 🍀🇮🇪🥊🌙❤️

[@brucedownunda7054]

Pity about the disconnect. We have the same in South Africa.

[@patrickmac2799]

My great uncle left Derry after the Great War and went to Queensland. He had served at the Somme and when he returned to the north of Ireland he couldn't get a job as a Postman because he was Catholic. He had had enough at that shit and fucked off to Australia where he had a chance at a life.

[@rubydawn1]

so sad to see them leave their beloved Ireland with all the family

[@JCSAXON]

When my gut growls for food afar or amiss I call that the “echo of a distant dream”

[@pedroleyton8179]

Ok

[@terrencewalsh5923]

My real name is Walshe my great-grandfather had to change it because he was a catholic detective

[@Jungleland33]

Ironic that what happened to the native Irish in their own land also happened to the native Australians at the hands of invaders.

[@mickeyp5122]

Exactly what i was just thinking !!

[@Evlogite19]

The only "native" Australians are the British Isles folk who created and passed it down to their next of kin. The aboriginal tribes merely lived on a giant piece of land that would one day become Australia. Nations are not merely slabs of land with borders. The word nation comes from the Greek term "ethnos". Sound familiar? It is the same word that you know as "ethnic". People make nations. Countries are simply nation-states, there is a stark difference. Australians are a nation unto themselves, an Anglocentric nation, albeit with a relatively young history.

[@Jungleland33]

@@Evlogite19 horseshit my friend.

[@Evlogite19]

@@Jungleland33 May God guard you and bring you to your senses. Have a blessed Sunday. ☦

[@Jungleland33]

@@Evlogite19 yeah, whatever.

[@liamkeane9159]

Great show,ballaratt in Victoria has alot of Irish settlers from1850s on wards

[@Kitiwake]

My great grandfather was there when there was gold mining. He made a lot of money drawing supplies to the miners. He retired on a 200 acre farm in Ireland.

[@liamkeane9159]

I have a Grand uncle still out in that Neck of the woods,Lition,snake valley, Nearly there 60years Fr John keane. Big Geelong supporter.

[@warrenmilford1329]

@@Kitiwake I'm Aussie with a mixed bag of Irish and British ancestry, and one of my great, great grandfathers, who was a Scot, along with his 3 brothers did something similar there, and at Bendigo as well, instead of mining. They supplied the diggers with mining equipment (picks, shovels etc). They ended up making, after the gold rush ended, 80 000 pounds between them. That was a fuckin' fortune in those days. With his share he set up a huge farm and built a big English style manor house where my granddad was born. Long story short, as people died out, the estate got left to my GD's spinster aunt, who had implied it would be left to the family when she died, but she left the lot to the fuckin' Presbyterian church.

[@Kitiwake]

@@warrenmilford1329 great story Warren. Never mind..it mightn't have done you any good either.

[@warrenmilford1329]

@@Kitiwake Your'e right Pat, I can't really see my self strutting around on a thoroughbred, talking all flash, as a landed gentleman. Although some of that cash wouldn't have gone astray.

[@PAGANONYMOUS]

2:11 That's interesting that he mentions the name Costello, I watched another video about the Irish on Newfoundland and Costello was also mentioned as a large founding family name. I've never came accross the name Costello in Ireland or UK. is it an Irish name? I assumed it was Portuguese. [ edit ] Anglo-Norman

[@bridodonnell6698]

It's an Irish name comes from Casla in Galway...Casla means "(twisting) creek" or "inlet from the sea" in Irish.

[@bridodonnell6698]

I'm Irish and we have Costelloes in the family 😊

[@PAGANONYMOUS]

@@bridodonnell6698 My grandparents are from Galway and I've gone back a few times too! How embarrassing 😆

[@kashu66]

God Bless Ireland and may they one day return to the One True Faith of their fathers!

[@jangowan5742]

@Cashu66.yea to the Church of Columba,the Gael Church

[@bernieyott5788]

Bloody ‘ell?.. I was getting married on an island in the Indian Ocean, Zanzibar. In 1988. I never knew nothing about ANY of this?..

[@Dave-bd5nj]

I just moved home to Ireland after living in Australia for the last 10 years . . I don't have 1 Australian friend after all that time , except fellow Irish with oz passports . The Australians treat the Irish like second class citizens... they need to change their attitudes towards overseas workers and future citizens as they now have a bad reputation amongst the younger generations which in turn will have an impact on the economy for many years to come.

[@christopherrainbow3113]

Australia is a land stolen from the native people.

[@abc33944]

If you as an Irish chap got treated like a second class citizen .. how do the natives get treated ???

[@planet_69]

it's probably because you have big mouths and are always gobbing off about how great Ireland and the Irish are whilst living in someone else's country.

[@stitchjones7134]

My ancestors were not only the Irish, but Palatinate Germans from Ireland. Schumacher's in Limerick? We all an odd mix

[@colymurph]

That tune at the beginning is nice, with fiddle and didgeridoo. Anyone know who it is?

[@danrobinson572]

I agree

[@jerryoshea3116]

Roddy McCorley..

[@danrobinson572]

@@jerryoshea3116 ok thanks

[@zzzzDm1988]

Stockton's Wing Skidoo

[@Abcd-hr9ot]

Mise eire by sean o reda

[@davechristian7543]

I remember growing up in the 70s n 80s n all the Irish jokes Ppl would say n always bagging out Irish Ppl n i didn't understand it coming from German immigrant mother n farther as it was the pomes heir in Australia i found out later on that would always talk down about them, well i found that out later in life say in the 90's ( in my 20's. .. i been told n watch doco's that it was ALOT worse in the earlier days, like a lot lot worse, why ill never understand but i guess it had to do with religion like most of the time as i think they were Catholics n the English were the church of Engliand.

[@Kitiwake]

Susan Ryan @ 42.10 talking about the Irish nuns. I had two aunts who joined the mercy order and went to Townsville, Queensland. The first in 1926.

[@warrenmilford1329]

The heat and humidity of that area in the far north, would have nearly done them in, especially with the full black habits they had to wear in those days. It would have been over 45 degrees C inside them. My dad was educated by them in southern rural Queensland in the late '30s/'40s. He called them jokingly, The Sisters of No Mercy, because apparently all the ones he encountered, were really quite vicious, he reckoned. (No offence to your Aunts intended Pat).

[@Kitiwake]

@@warrenmilford1329 who knows .. Maybe they were. I had the Christian Brothers some were vicious. But they were the times they were in. It didn't do him any harm either, though. View it another way, the nuns added to the australian culture and economy. They certainly were weren't a negative.

[@vinryan3267]

I had 2 great aunts, daughters of immigrant parents from County Clare, who joined up with St Mary McKillop, it would have been in the late 1860s- early 1870s. There were 4 generations of Josephites in that branch of the family.

[@warrenmilford1329]

@@Kitiwake They were a big part of the culture as you say. It's kind of sad, as nearly every country town had a nunnery, that are all empty now. Sometimes there were one or two elderly ladies still there, who would be moved on to some sort of nuns retirement home I would imagine. It must be really painful for these ladies, knowing that they once lived in a thriving community, with 20 or 30 fellow nuns, that has basically dissolved around them. Many have been turned into flats, B & B'S or museums/cultural centres. I went to state schools and a De La Salle Brothers in my later years. There were examples of vicious people in both, but mostly they were fair minded.

[@vinryan3267]

@@warrenmilford1329 Hello, Warren. Sad for the community, the Nation, the Church and us, happy for those young girls who joined up, one of whom was my sister, that 4th generation. The Brothers and Sisters did themselves out of a job. We are the massive beneficiaries of the sacrifice of those youngsters who dedicated their lives to advancing us. I went through primary and secondary schools with ONE non religious teacher, a French Moroccan language teacher of French. My son went through the Catholic School system with ONE religious teacher, a Latin teacher. Times change.

[@killickfarms]

Jaysus the lads on the beach with the cow!!! I haven’t laughed as hard in years when it crashed into the currach

[@Eamonnmhac]

not any auld cow a bullock

[@eamonmacdonnell2627]

What's the need to use the word Jaysus?

[@anthonydowling3356]

@@eamonmacdonnell2627 It adds color .Whats the meaning of you asking ?

[@warrenmilford1329]

For what it's worth, I enjoyed seeing you use the word, Jaysus. Jaysus, Mary and Joseph would have taken the fuckin' cake though mate.

[@killickfarms]

eamon macdonnell it’s a colloquialism. It’s become a common word in spoken English in the country of Ireland. Sorry if I hurt your sensitive ears. I sure hope I didn’t make the baby jebus cry

[@grainneminihane625]

Howr ya Ireland 🇮🇪👊

[@anthonydowling3356]

Cold wet windy ,depressing ,how else would it be ?

[@vinryan3267]

@@anthonydowling3356 Love the hoor'ye. As iconic as our g'day

[@Tom-ps7vg]

I left Waterford in 1960 at 16 and stayed 51 yrs enjoyed it mostly good and bad everywhere you go back home now 13 yrs enjoyable apart from poxy politics lock them all up ffsxxx❤😅

[@moneymandan6217]

Ireland would have a much larger population than the UK if they weren't flung to the 4 corners of the world, thats what the UK were afraid of

[@kitsilanomusician2669]

Thatcher was also opposed to German Unification for the same reason. Divide and conquer.

[@erdemir5641]

the UK was also flung to the 4 corners of the world. Where d'you think Aussies come from

[@ciaranmcallister5950]

@@erdemir5641 no the UK invaded four corners of the world there's a difference

[@NegativeAccelerate]

My Irish mum graduated top of her class in Ireland and couldn’t get a job. So she yeeted off to Australia in ‘91. Then, the day I was born both my parents lost their jobs and yeeted back to Ireland when Ireland wasn’t a shithole anymore.

[@vinryan3267]

They should have stayed. They'd have been comfortably retired on their Keating superannuation and you'd be an internet sensation.

[@NegativeAccelerate]

@@vinryan3267 do most ppl end up like that in Australia?

[@eamonmacdonnell2627]

Yeeted???

[@vinryan3267]

@@NegativeAccelerate Paul Keating instituted compulsory superannuation in 1992, 29 years ago. employers must pay 9.5 %, on top of wages, into a superannuation fund. It's supposed to increase to 12 % next year but the pandemic will delay that. Not yet, but young people starting work now at, say, 20 years, will have 45 years of savings available for their retirement. That picture I painted will be about right for them.

[@anthonydowling3356]

@@vinryan3267 They would be trapped in Australia unable to fly out or arrested by the cops in Melbourne for not wearing a mask.

[@smallfeet4581]

im sure there were english and scots sent to australia too , i watched a prog where english families met up with families in aus that were originally from england some generations ago ,

[@vinryan3267]

Too right there were. The Scots in particular suffered at the hands of British Ascendency, read up on the Clearances. It wasn't much fun being poor in England and Wales in late 18th - early 19th centuries, either. About the only thing good about being poor in that era was that there were at least 3 promised lands to escape to, North America, South Africa and Australia.

[@smallfeet4581]

@@vinryan3267 a lot were sent there to aus because of crimes committed , one english woman was sent there and left kids behind , think it was shoplifting ,stealing food poss 1800s , i think she ended up quite well to do in aus and got married after her time served , her kids grew up in england , it was quite something to see the next families meet up after all those years

[@vinryan3267]

@@smallfeet4581 shoplifting. She'd get off with a Bond these days.

[@smallfeet4581]

@@vinryan3267 yep, not sent half way round the world ,

[@vinryan3267]

@@smallfeet4581 Too right, again. Those Irish lasses. My best all have English surnames. Those Irish girls. To this day, one of my mates scolds his English descended wife on her want of humour, 'the trouble of you is that you don't have enough Irish in you.

[@Edward_Joseph_]

Wonder what became of Padraig Kenneally and Bronwyn?

[@gailday3781]

Ballarat VIC Australia 👍✔️

[@dream_emulator]

Really well constructed documentary

[@gailday3781]

A thousand years 🎀

[@dylantierney6407]

Tempted to get the hell out of here again for a while. This is no country for young people

[@blahblahblahblah2837]

Come to Perth. There's always room for you!

[@dylantierney6407]

@@blahblahblahblah2837 Is it not a bit isolated and boring. I just imagine it as being very stagnant but maybe not!

[@blahblahblahblah2837]

@@dylantierney6407 if you're already living in a massive city, Perth will feel too slow. It has come leaps and bounds in the last 10 years, in terms of infrastructure and things to do, with mining money pouring into the state. And it is isolated, but that has turned out to be a massive advantage now! We are closer to South Asia, so lots of people go there for incredible, cheap holidays. If you love the beach and a good pint with some of the best weather on earth, there's not much reason to leave

[@vinryan3267]

@@dylantierney6407 Fair go, Dylan, Perth's population (1.9 mil) is approaching 50 % greater than that of Dublin (1.2 mil). Perth's hardly the outback. Plenty of sharks both in and out of the water.

[@dylantierney6407]

@@blahblahblahblah2837 the city just looks a bit plastic and inauthentic. As though it was designed by some marketing department instead of skilled architects. It looks very American too and just cultureless. I really want to go though as I’ve heard so much about it

[@hamueramikiarea6796]

Glenrowan represent! I’m from the town where they got Ned kelly! 6 generation Aussie but my family were from north Munster

[@kitsilanomusician2669]

How's it going! I live near Red Kelly's, Neds Father's old Family home in Tipperary. Still standing.

[@davedrewett2196]

@@kitsilanomusician2669 Red is buried just a few hundred metres from my mums house in Avenal Victoria.

[@kitsilanomusician2669]

@@davedrewett2196 It's a small world! Nick Cave was from that neck of the woods too?

[@davedrewett2196]

@@kitsilanomusician2669 and the fine folks from Killing Heidi are from just down the road too. I had no idea about Nick. Cheers

[@gailday3781]

Ureka stockade 👍

[@mucsalto8377]

Irish priests and brotherhoods in Australia: Between 1950 and 2010, abuse allegations were made against seven percent of Catholic priests in Australia. In some orders the proportion of the accused is particularly high, including the "Christian Brothers" with 22 percent of the order members and the "St. John of God Brothers ”with 40.4 percent. A total of 4444 victims approached Catholic institutions in Australia between 1980 and 2015. 78 percent of these people were male. The mean age at the time of the alleged abuse was 10.5 years for girls and 11.6 years for boys. It took an average of 33 years for the abuse to be reported.

[@j2msu341]

just reviewed some parts of this again,the Catholic lady from the falls road talks of experiences of the troubles then goes on to say she has been in Australia for 22yrs,it doesn't add up !!!!

[@karearoto4294]

Home for a few years was a cottage on Lanes Lane, Killarney, Shire of Belfast, bare amongst the potato fields. Happy days.

[@donaldpaterson5827]

I love St Patrick’s day. The Irish population and their descendants all over the world celebrating that famous Scotsman St Patrick.

[@mrogrady2227]

A pathetic attempt at humour. At least get the facts correct. St Patrick was Welsh you moron.

[@mrogrady2227]

@Mary Faulkner and you 'agragh' dont know your own history. Inform yourself please and thanks.

[@shaneduggan7901]

Welsh u donut

[@bohsgerry]

at 1.oo.21 all this jail has been meticulously restored and visitor facilities modernised and is a great place to visit-Kilmainham Jail.Irish hero Edinburgh born james Connolly was taken wounded from his cell and shot by the Brittish Army,But as they and their loyalist minions found out in the years following the CROPPIES DIDNT LIE DOWN.

[@warrenmilford1329]

This is not entirely accurate in a lot of ways. Theres a few generalisations. Especially about the Irish Prots being generally well off, as many were poor, like my Irish Prot kin, just as much as my Irish Cath kin.There was a huge difference in the experience of the Irish who moved to the bush and outback, like my people, compared to the ones who lived in the ghetto type areas in the city. The suspicions and discriminations did still happen, but didn't really apply as much, as everyone was in small isolated communities, and had to get on and work together, taming a harsh land. There were also many marriages across sectarian lines, as happened through my ancestral lines going back to convict times, that wouldn't have been so prevalent in the cities. Also in the country town I was born, there was only one cemetery, with Cath/Prot people being buried side by side.

[@vinryan3267]

Be forgiving of the film maker, Warren Milford, they’ve taken on a huge task, they won’t please everyone. What the film shows is close enough to my experience, a descendent of 7 great grandparents who arrived here in the 1850s and of the line already here by a generation, half Irish, me great grandfather what we'd now call an illegal migrant. They gifted me and mine the best possible lives, how many of the rest of the World wish they had my antecedents ? I’m comfortable with the film, the first generation of the families whence I’m descended, both countries, born in a city. ick ? who cares ? It might still matter in Scotland and in the Occupied North East, not here. We don’t have the Richmond Celtics and the Hawthorn Rangers here.

[@warrenmilford1329]

@@vinryan3267 G'day Vin Ryan, thanks for your reply. The program, I thought, was generally well made, and was informative and entertaining. There was just the odd thing, here and there, that I thought could have been mentioned or presented differently. I know the horrible concept of sectarianism, still unfortunately matters to a great deal of people in Scotland, especially Glasgow, and of course in North East Ireland. Thankfully we've well and truly left it behind. I was just commenting about the city 'ghetto' experience, suffered by Irish Catholics in places like Collingwood, that I don't think was as prevalent in more 'frontier', early settlement type places. I felt this difference in experiences could have been raised. Of course there would have been sectarian problems at times, just not as common as the examples given by Susan Ryan (a distant relative Vin?). Also only Melbourne and Sydney suburbs were mentioned. I don't think there was a similar, Irish 'ghetto' type thing, in Brisbane for example. That imagery of the road at the cemetery, dividing the dead, kind of implied that it was a societal norm, yet it didn't happen everywhere. Anyway, all that aside, we are truly fortunate to have the country our ancestors have left us.

[@vinryan3267]

@@warrenmilford1329 Thankyou for your reply to mine. You and I are in heated agreement, particularly acknowledging the gift our ancestors gave us. My antecedents were overwhelmingly rural. In the bush, with greater reliance upon neighbours, differences weren't as pronounced. I've a theory that sectarianism here was pronounced, as you point out, in inner Melbourne and Sydney and really only between very late 19th Century to the 1970s.

[@warrenmilford1329]

@@vinryan3267 You've hit the nail on the head with that time scale Vin, I reckon. It matches up roughly with Daniel Mannix's, at times, controversial lifetime in Australia, and the strong influence he could exert, especially in those two major inner city areas, which I don't believe was as pronounced in other states, especially the rural areas.

[@vinryan3267]

@@warrenmilford1329 ...the post 1890 Victorian Colonial Govt gave assistance to Church building to communities that could demonstrate that they had a population of church going adherents. That was incentive enough to encourage, in the case of Catholics, recruiting clergy and teaching Orders from Ireland, in the case of Protestants, particularly non conformist churches, recruiting clergy from Scotland, thus the string of Presbyterian and Methodist churches from West Melbourne to Essendon and inner suburban Melbourne Catholic Schools.

[@niallsmith6650]

Eire unfree shall never be at peace🇮🇪32

[@pcmaclin]

🤣🤣🤣

[@bensanderson7144]

Your grandfather was hanged by the British at the crossroads five miles outside of Dublin ..

[@lomzaunfiltered9151]

Lived in Tully North Queensland as an Irishman

[@Iron_Lion_Of_Zion]

Is that Craggy Island, from Father Ted?

[@AD-mw5mv]

were the Irish migrants to Australia any different from British "planters" in Ireland? There seems to me to be a huge dollop of hypocrisy involved.

[@georgel74]

The Irish didn't steal the land in Australia.

[@benbolger147]

Totally fucking different. Do some history research

[@georgel74]

@@benbolger147 ill contact the Australian government.

[@benbolger147]

Do their probably all English decent

[@warrenmilford1329]

An argument could be made along those lines I guess. There's cases where Irish people took the land by force, as squatters, or from being given land by the colonial governments either for free, or at a cheap price, after it had been taken from the Aboriginals. For e.g. Ned Kelly's family and some of my ancestors.

[@iankennedy1441]

I EFFING LOVE IRELAND

[@firequeen7872]

I’ll never understand why people would leave their roots their history their land and their blood for countries with no history or culture that relates them. I’m still annoyed with my ancestors for doing it. Best from NZ 🇳🇿❤️🇮🇪

[@bridodonnell6698]

Economic necessity

[@bohsgerry]

was that john bull they lifted away

[@keyfeatures]

Cultural imperialism is what it is. I don't find the excuse that buying up aboriginal land is justified by the word 'custodian'. There were custodians of that land prior to anglo-celtic colonization. Double standards.

[@matthewjamison]

At least you're not complaining about it

[@John_Wood_]

Now even the GAA has sold Ireland out.

[@Abcd-hr9ot]

What did they do

[@John_Wood_]

@@Abcd-hr9ot Let muslims pray on the grass at Croke Park.

[@Abcd-hr9ot]

@@John_Wood_ thats discracefull

[@warrenmilford1329]

What do you fellas reckon about those International Rules games, between Australia and Ireland, combining AFL with GAA rules, which are sometimes played, as a spectacle?

[@John_Wood_]

@@warrenmilford1329 didn't it turn into a 30 man brawl most games? Not very successful.

[@1dulchie113]

God if I could get back to sunny Sydney or Adelaide ireland is great but the establishment is still bullshit

[@abrennan6969]

Highest mortgage rates in Europe and rip off insurance stealing wealth.

[@lukeoleary1389]

i feckin love my country.

[@gailday3781]

Gaelic ❤️🍀🥊👍

[@tomcollins4617]

Certainly exposes the Racism of the Irish.

[@niallsmith6650]

How can they say British Northern Ireland. That like saying. Spanish Northern France. Don't make sense. There is irish prods in the Irish North of Ireland. I'm a Southern Catholic. No difference. If they love Britain so much. Get the boat to the foreign country they love

[@mcivor321]

Are most Australians not English Anglo-saxon decent?

[@mucsalto8377]

you saw the doc? No? - the answer is there in.

[@gailday3781]

Thanks again I made it 🍀🌙⚓

[@justmyster1976]

Can't believe how that priest spoke to the poor lady who lost her little girl. What an unfeeling, evil, pathetic hateful man. Thank Christ people see through the Catholic church nowadays.

[@ronfisher4965]

Don’t judge unless you want to be judged.

[@soloazulsoloazul3714]

Yo soy de colombia me puede ayudar para un trabajo en tu pais

[@noellambe5845]

ireland is an open air asylum

[@davideddy2672]

Agenda 30 is the new religion!

[@emmetnolan7081]

Well said Tang...!!!....priests miserable bastards that couldn’t get a job anywhere living off poor people fuck them......

[@jamesharryward5595]

How things change .......

[@jameshudson169]

you sure antartica isn't the driest continent?

[@gailday3781]

Maids 🍀❤️

[@sherp2u1]

Ireland is the only country in the world, where you can play a guitar in a marching band...!

[@pmathews109]

Or Irish dancing on the radio!

[@sherp2u1]

@@pmathews109 We listen to the tapping ye know, do you see now...?

[@stevedriscoll2404]

Shame there's no mention of the Indigenous Australians who were dispossessed by the dispossessed Irish.

[@AlexBonesJones]

Get a life, What about the Irish that dispossessed by the British. Or the Native Americans by the Europeans? Everyone exploited one another its history move on and get over it

[@stevedriscoll2404]

But surely a little mention would have made the documentary more historically correct.

[@Minime163]

Its irony at it's best

[@jonniebyford]

Either you didn't watch it all or were fast asleep. Don't you remember the big white bearded half Aborigine near the end of Part One?

[@jerryoshea3116]

So how exactly did these"Poor"Irish☘️ immigrants dispossess the local indigenous tribes??They were vast swathes of open Desert land in the "Outback"which was hardly the most welcoming of places,let alone to a "Mick"from county "wherever" who didn't have a clue how to deal and cope in this new foreign land,!

[@gailday3781]

❤️🍀

[@Shay-bp7yt]

I hope the Australian s aren't sick off us

[@dracovenit9549]

I wonder what the story with the cow is? hehe

[@eamonmacdonnell2627]

If that's your attempt at making a comment... you shouldn't have bothered.

[@dracovenit9549]

@@eamonmacdonnell2627 A light hearted quip about a cow? What is the world coming to? (btw I was talking about the cow being chased, not a lady).

[@anthonydowling3356]

@@eamonmacdonnell2627 It must be miserable being you .

[@siogbeagbideach]

A guy from the mainland would have bought cattle from the islanders and this is the day that they head to Galway. To get to the 'steamer', (local name for the ship, Naomh Éanna) the cattle had to swim behind the currach and then get hoisted into the ship . Usually no troubles, but this one really didn't want to go poor thing and kicked off

[@lifesahobby]

Bravo

[@briancronin6073]

SAME

[@Abcd-hr9ot]

Mise eire

[@vinryan3267]

Is mise eire ?

[@dicey8928]

Legendary holly water 💧

[@niallsmith6650]

Ireland is for the Irish.

[@pcmaclin]

Ireland is for the highest bidder, at present that is the EU. Ireland, the bankrupt statelet bought owned and paid for by the EU.

[@shane6517]

@@pcmaclin that's all of the EU pal

[@pcmaclin]

@@shane6517 Oh good, so you don't disagree with me then. That's always nice to know. By the way, I ain't your pal.

[@gailday3781]

🍀🌙🌙

[@pedroleyton8179]

Okk

[@gailday3781]

😭

[@kyhber1]

👍