The Island of Doctor Moreau Book vs Movies

[@mattmirrorman]

The Lost Souls documentary is a wild ride. I don’t even want to reveal any of the big things that happened on that tumultuous set. But I’ll just say the fired director, Richard Stanley, was not done with the movie after he was fired.

[@WhytheBookWins]

I still need to watch it! You have me even more curious now...

[@lilmelvin11]

​@@WhytheBookWinsHe snuck back on to the movie set as an extra. Not that mysterious...Between cocaine-use and ego-tripping competition between Brando, the Director, and Kilmer (after "the Doors" movie), it was pretty messed up....Actors, sheesh! Kilmer did great with his Mark Twain role after, and did great conquering his fight against cancer later.. A true Mensch.

[@lesyeuxsansvisage1157]

Don’t it come out that Stanley is a horrendous domestic abuser? I remember being bummed, because he was going to do The Dunwich Horror, and I’d enjoyed The Color Out of Space.

[@LucyLioness100]

@@lesyeuxsansvisage1157yeah there were allegations brought up against him. I don’t think they pressed any charges that I recall. Really sad considering he was a good filmmaker

[@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396]

@@LucyLioness100Hopefully not. I loved Hardware and his relationship with the guy from Fields and other musicians. I haven’t heard him working on his “trilogy” of Lovecraft films…so maybe he’s been cancelled. Or at least he is on a “do not work with” list. Dust Devil and his documentaries are pretty good too.

[@paulallenk4830]

The closest I've ever come to taking LSD is watching the 96 version of this book. Fun Fact: Mike Myers got the idea for Dr. Evil's Mini Me from this film when he made Austin Powers just a year later. Another terrific episode. Happy New Year.

[@WhytheBookWins]

lol it is so insane but I loved it! And that makes sense Meyers was inspired by this movie. Thanks for commenting and Happy New Year :)

[@robyee3325]

What kind of lsd were you taking? Lol

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

​@@WhytheBookWins>>> *_"Frickin' laser beams!"_* 😊

[@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396]

I can’t hear “Are We Not Men?” without hearing “We Are Devo”. :)

[@tonypellock5326]

When he’s got that ice bucket on his head. LOL

[@WhytheBookWins]

Lol so weird but so entertaining 😆

[@Kaiyanwang82]

For the '96 movie, it's as if they hired Brando's character in Apocalypse Now for the role instead of Brando himself.

[@lilmelvin11]

I had to watch this post again. So much There in the critique and comparisons, etc.....great editing. Thank you. Appreciatiom.

[@WhytheBookWins]

Thank you so much!!

[@dead-eyeddrifter5756]

You forgot to cover the 2004 movie Dr Moreau's House of Pain. Good review, though. My personal favorite is the 1996 film, It's a guilty pleasure of mine, I just love how ridiculously chaotic it is start to finish. And if you haven't checked it out yet, definitely check out Richard Stanley's documentary "Lost Soul", that covers the production of the 1996 film, it's a great watch and even better than the movie.

[@WhytheBookWins]

Totally agree! I love the ridiculous chaos as well lol

[@nerdsquid9951]

While my favourite was the 77 version I respect your completely valid criticisms about its occasional lack of flavour, and I appreciate how well versed you were about the book and how the adaptations went about showing the story

[@WhytheBookWins]

😊 I'm glad you liked the video!

[@polybiusou]

just found your channel- amazing work!! i definitely can't wait to see more book/movie reviews from you ^^

[@WhytheBookWins]

Thank you! ☺️

[@BipolArteMusic]

I loved this video!!! Extremely well explained! You are great at story telling 😉

[@WhytheBookWins]

Thank you so much 😊😊

[@sweetbabyboo5]

After reading the book. The movies don’t capture the essence or social dilemmas the book brings up. The Dr. has no love for his creations in the book but in the 1996 movie ( the only one I can remember right now) he’s a father to them. The Dr in the book hangs between the balance of wicked and scientific. Great read, highly recommend.

[@beachchickensmedia]

incredibly informative, and great video honestly.

[@WhytheBookWins]

Thank you so much! 🐆

[@OliviaPrincezza]

If you want to try another H.G Wells Book: The Food Of The Gods And How It Came To Earth. And there are two films made by the same guy Bert I. Gordon. First one is called Village Of The Giants.(1956) With Ron Howard and Beau Bridges. Second one is called: The Food Of The Gods. (1976)

[@WhytheBookWins]

Thanks for the suggestion! 😀

[@danielmkubacki]

Island of Lost Souls is a great moive! A classic!

[@IanFindly-iv1nl]

Well, the 77 version is kinds special to me cause my family KNEW the guy who played the PIG MAN (shown, in he background, in this video at 6:30). Yeah, he was a professional wrestler and showman who lived in the same location as us. One son of his was my age and in the same classroom as me in grammar school (went to different high schools though) and another was the age of my older brother and was on the same baseball team, so we saw him and his whole family a lot at baseball games and practices. THAT version, as I recall, is also the most VIOLENT one, and has some pretty gruesome scenes, so if one is into THAT (like an exploitation or hard-core horror buff) then that version might be recommendable.

[@WhytheBookWins]

That's cool you knew him in real life!

[@IHJello]

You are my go to when it comes to comparisons. In March a movie by Bong Joon Ho starring Robert Pattinson called Mickey 17. Based on a book titled Mickey7. I think Pattinson is the only new leading actor that isnt a superhero first. Bong Joon Ho has an amazing track record as well. I hope you do a comparison in the future. It is my most anticipated early release film. I fear it might not interest you, but it doesnt hurt to ask.

[@WhytheBookWins]

oooo I hadn't heard of that! It looks really interesting though so you can be on the lookout for my video once the movie is out!

[@francescagatica2799]

Great overall review and parallelisms between the actual text and the movie adaptations. Just one thing though, Aisha from the 96 movie was not a ''panther woman'', she was a cat. By the end, when she has ''regressed'' to her cat like ways and looks, she hisses and scratches the human dog mutants like a stray cat would do

[@curiousworld7912]

I'm so glad that you liked the book! i love how wonderfully bent it is. :) Of course, like the rest of Wells' canon; there's a social message behind the story - such as his issues with colonialism in 'The War of the Worlds'. Wells was very 'anti-vivisection', and was a voice, I understand, for the growing public outcry against cruelty to animals. I like all the film versions, as they all have their strengths and weaknesses (and isn't the '96 version totally wack?). You should definitely see the documentary on the '96 version; it was evidently a complete madhouse of a production. Thanks for your well-done reviews, thoughts, and comparisons. :)

[@WhytheBookWins]

Thank you again for suggesting it 😁

[@matterstoyou2970]

I wouldn’t call his writing stuffy or posh and certainly not intentionally pompous or pretentious but there is a clinical and unconnected articulation made IMO.

[@gloriathomas3245]

While never read the book, I do believe that the novel was used for the basis for the Batman The Animated Series episode Tyger, Tyger and the Stargate SG 1 episode Metamorphosis.

[@patriciaschiro2659]

I first read the book when I was around 12 and I loved it. I have since read it again multiple times. It is one of my favorite books. I’ve also seen all the movies and the one from the seventies I feel is the best adaptation.

[@WhytheBookWins]

Yeah that one follows the book the closest probably. It's such an amazing book!

[@jcherry875]

I just finished it, and it left me with a kind of sadness for these animals. The connection between the "beasts" and them having traits shared with the most looked down upon and abused groups of society (mental & physical disabilities, being described as *outdated and offensive term for black* and simply being animals) was soul-crushing to me. Those traits are the justification and reason for the human characters to mistreat and abuse them, even the more social "beasts" get no respect or an inch of empathy. Maybe I'm projecting since I have a disability. I feel like I would've at least bonded with the dog"beast" or sloth-girl. It kinda saddens me how grossed out Prendick was by his dog-companion, who was his only source of protection. Also, I feel like the representation of animals is a now (obviously) outdated. Sure, they were made into "beasts," but I feel they we're written more beastly (thirst for blood, for example) than animals actually are. Animals don't have an aggressive thirst for blood. They hunt when they are hungry. Thirst for blood is a very human thing and i feel like it should've decreased while they were reverting. Overall a sad book for me

[@WhytheBookWins]

Thanks for sharing your perspective on this one! It's definitely a sad book in many ways.

[@benji285]

36:58 If I remember correctly, in the original novel, Doctor Moreau himself explains that once he sent away the brutes (the beastmen) from his house because he considered them too bestial and therefore failures, he no longer did great case for their fate unlike Montgomery (and some of the Kanak who had come to the island with Moreau at the start of his project) and that it is they (the brutes) who are in truth at the origin of the law, not him. He also criticizes the fact that this law is a grotesque pantomime since the brutes ultimately pass their time to break it. That being said, it seems clear that this simulacrum of law which Moreau mocks will ultimately have been useful to him when it comes to detecting brutes who have reached an advanced stage of regression and therefore potentially more dangerous.

[@lilmelvin11]

Interesting your critique of the book and the various movie versions. My replies didn't seem to get posted....probably my mess- up...But thank you for reminding me. Read the book as a kid ("just another monster movie like the others"). Actually a more interesting story than I thought...

[@WhytheBookWins]

Yeah it was such a fascinating story!

[@lilmelvin11]

@@WhytheBookWins one of my favorite movies "Time After Time" from 1979. ...H.G. Wells uses his time machine to chase Jack the Ripper from the 1890s to the 1970s. It's a smart thriller but also romantic tale. If you haven't seen this movie I think you will like. Also "Somewhere in Time", a movie with Jane Seymour. The original author Jack Finney wrote a couple of books resolving on time travel and the past, in a Twilight Zone type of way. You might like them.

[@pokeloon15]

Are you planning on reviewing The Martian by Andy Weir and the movie adaptation starring Matt Daimon? Both versions are really good and I would like to see you opinion on it.

[@WhytheBookWins]

Tbh that wasn't high on my list of future episodes. I'll bump it up though, and I can put it on a book vs movie poll though and if it wins I'll cover it!

[@ericpanissidi6761]

Thanks to KZbin for fans to discuss and see the movie for free.

[@LucyLioness100]

The book is definitely a wild ride, but Wells could craft a compelling tale. The movies are just a giant mess; especially when you go into the history of the ‘96 film. I recommend watching the documentary about Richard Stanley trying to get his version made more than ever revisiting the Frankenheimer train wreck (which I don’t fully blame him for as he inherited the problems already cascading)

[@WhytheBookWins]

Yeah I need to watch that!

[@lilmelvin11]

An interesting book by Wells...maybe building his own take on Mary Shelley's "Frankenstein" from the 1820s, after more Industrial Age/Mechanical "progression", trying to "perfect Life "....Philosophical questions. "We can be like God!" arrogance. Past authors have brought up these questions, rightly so because we are human. We are Curious Creatures.

[@WhytheBookWins]

Yeah it is a theme that seems to comes up a lot through the years

[@ericpanissidi6761]

Charles Dickens and hg wells my favorite. whats a "sillyass " or" sawbones"

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

FWIW: I have yet to watch any of the three movies made based on the novel. That said, based on what I have seen on KZbin regarding the Brando/Kilmer movie, that one definitely deserves the title *"S**T SHOW."* 🤦‍♂️ Also: Subbed...👍

[@WhytheBookWins]

thanks for subscribing! Yeah the 90's one is a mess lol but I would watch it again in a heartbeat!

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

@@WhytheBookWins>>> Believe it or not I think I have an unopened VHS tape of it. If I can find it I will give it a watch.

[@HobGungan]

While I recognize its issues and you can tell it was troubled, I still legitimately enjoy the 1996 version

[@WhytheBookWins]

Agreed! I love that one 😂

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

IMO the 1996 movie could be retitled: *_"EGOS 'R' US"_* 😉 *EDIT→* *_"THE ISLAND OF LOST EGOS"_* 😊

[@Therabbitmaze-v2j]

I agree that Burt Lancaster is a good actor but was miscast, he would have been more suited to be Dr. Doolittle.

[@WhytheBookWins]

Totally agree!

[@huntercoleman460]

The 1977 one film is my favorite Laura. What do you think?

[@WhytheBookWins]

That one is good, but Lancaster was my least favorite Moreau

[@benji285]

@@WhytheBookWins Which is a really unusual opinion since Lancaster is almost unanimously considered the best Dr. Moreau.

[@cheesypotat0es]

This movie seemed like a cheap rip-off of apocalypse now

[@ArtemisandOllie]

❤

[@55wolf55]

me and you are buddy

[@shimaalcarrim7949]

Nice 👍🏼 channel

[@WhytheBookWins]

Thanks!

[@zaberfang]

The closest form Moreau would make for the panther lady if he used the panther as a base would be a Japanese anime cat girl

[@WhytheBookWins]

😂