The Isle | Why are dinosaur releases Important

Afterthought has already stated several explanations for the significant lack of dino releases, expressing that the fundamental mechanics such as nesting and gore must be prioritised so in the future it would be easier and faster to implement new playables, on a development standpoint at least, although that still doesn’t explain the reason behind the constant sneakpics of something that they are fully aware it wont be coming for at least the following 12 months as well as some very questionable comments made by some of the devs, but thats a matter for another video.
For now, lets ignore all of that and instead, ask ourselves why: why are new dinosaurs important to us to begin with? Are they really that crucial for the game or is this just a mere symptom of a much larger issue?
Hope you all enjoy the video :)
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[@oodz1297]

lord forgive me. I wanted dinosaurs in the dinosaur game

[@shiftyvee]

I'm so happy that weeks or even months of animation, programming and sound designing time was put into pterodactylus for it to not only be absolutely useless both in concept and in game, but also to barely spawn in anyway

[@thenovazone1778]

i feel you :,)

[@modernmarrow1411]

It spawns in every time when you kill AI, but they seem to completely ignore player bodies

[@Angelsouposoreass]

I cannot wait for Beipi and Troodon to be brought in just for people to still only play literally anything else

[@No_name8374]

Yep isn’t that just neat 👍

[@vulcansentry134]

Classic 🤡 moment

[@smokepotion6981]

The thing that gets me, is how on every Dev update, there's a bunch of updates about adding humans to the game. A feature I don't think I've ever heard anyone ask for. We could have Dilo's and Compy's by now, easilly.

[@kayamkara6138]

+1 its like dude who cares humans????

[@singingcrow439]

I really can't wait for them to finally add more dinos, but specifically more mid tiers like alberto and para. They need to fill the weight gap between carno and stego to help with balancing. Also I like playing mid tiers.

[@Patrick3183]

Me too. I love Dilo

[@TheKingofCoral]

Para and Alberto are semi apexes and cerato would be perfect at the moment

[@Rubexo1]

You got the gap perfectly. Stego could fight alberto, and carno could fight para and cerato. Troodon and bepi can be added alongside each other aswell (doesn't really matter).

[@ggsmrdoink]

Parasaur is as big as Trex in real life it isn't a mid tier

[@vratti2236]

@@ggsmrdoink You know how the isle has treated parasaurolophus.

[@mateuszanarolli7450]

The isle devs should really take your vídeos into consideration.

[@v2jo_re]

Thats the Problem... They dont accept negative Feedback. The KZbinr pesky is a perfect example, with the "anky is Not a bad animal". He Said that anky is Not a bad animal and dondi just went crazy about it and calling him a piece of shit aswell as Not giving him the content creators role even though he supported the Game For years. If i was him i wouldve completely quit it.

[@frostbitetheannunakiiceind6574]

@@v2jo_re fr

[@devildogentertainment4904]

Lol they block anyone with negative feedback so when you go up discord , all the comments are meat riders!! I tested it with a burner account . I encourage you to try it too. The devs and owner are corrupt

[@alexs29]

They won't because it's blatantly clear that the game is a scam at this point.

[@v2jo_re]

@@alexs29 Its Not a scam, but i wont Play it until there is a new dinosaur. I cant believe we hadnt have one For one year. If we wont get Like atleast 2-3 Dinos this year, Ive lost all my hope and im gonna stay with Path of acorns.

[@v.i.pflame7607]

I totally understand it takes time to add anything to a game, but i've always thought it was just ridiculous to take THAT long to add a new playable in when in legacy they where poping out like octomom for awhile. They are two separate branches yes, but that shouldn't mean they just stop all development because "it is not time".

[@No_name8374]

That is just the smooth brain and poor management of the isle..

[@kylehendricksilveralvin5376]

To be fair, Legacy dinos are considerably simpler than the Evrima ones, not that the time we've had without a playable is justified, it is not, over 1 year without a playable is just stupid

[@mikeoxsmal69]

@@kylehendricksilveralvin5376 I mean like they aren’t really that different tho, it’s kinda just special abilities and the turning animations that are different

[@kylehendricksilveralvin5376]

@@mikeoxsmal69 They're considerably different, a lot more work goes into creating an Evrima animal than a Legacy one, but it shouldn't take over a year of development to get a dino, real wishful thinking of my part right now, but I hope we get at least 3 dinos this year (even if I think we should get at minimum 5)

[@mikeoxsmal69]

@@kylehendricksilveralvin5376 why do they take more work to complete?

[@brasieroriginel8227]

that's why I personnaly prefer PoT. Yes, PoT has a lot of issues, but the devs of PoT are at least able to give us new dinos and news interesting mechanics, while the devs of the isle spend all there time making an update like gore, who don't really add anything in term of important mechanics

[@Czesin]

yeah pot devs have a vision of the kind of game they want and following that, the isle however doesn't, it has some good ideas but they can't seem to stick with it and are all over the place. it's like they are do a monster of the week kind of thing but taking ages to do anything and the player base is suffer due to this lack of direction and focus, like come on 6 months for just organ's those can be done fairly quickly and the other things they have added can't be justified.

[@Vampshroom420]

really enjoyed growing my new flyer

[@numbnuts375]

@@Czesin really broken and janky and stupid looking organs that bug out everywhere too

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

Dinosaurs having interesting mechanics in PoT? Bruh, there's literally no ability that isn't share by 3 or more dinosaurs

[@brasieroriginel8227]

@@ender_z4nd3r83 yeah and they are going to do a gigantic update this year to give each dino a unic (or almost) passive or ability, like a grab for the allo, a pounce for the raptors, or the hability to grab and drown dinos for the sarcos. We also know that the cerato may be a night hunter

[@trik6979]

Never forget Troodon2022

[@blue4669]

Troo was first teased over 2 years ago... oof

[@trik6979]

@@blue4669 whats leaves me a really bad impression is kissen saying stone faced that troodon was gonna release in 2022, 2 days before the year ended.

[@redswet2789]

The devs sure did

[@seanpellerin5703]

The isle devs have ignored the issues and bugs for too long. The current map of Evrima has major issues with not only performance but bugs as well. Things like dinos spawning inside of trees when you load in to the game. I believe there is a portion of the beach that you can fall through as well as several rocks that lack collision with the player model in several places (not to even mention the fps issues). When asked to fix this the devs declined to act. instead saying that they were too busy working on the next map for the game. Meaning they would allow these issues and bugs to go unfixed while they make yet another map that will undoubtedly face the same problems. The greatest weaknesses of this dev team are their inability to listen to community feed back and a severe lack of follow-through on both promised content and project completion and polish. This is a game that I have spent over a thousand hours on. I love the game. Legacy was something I played so much with my friends. We tried out evrima for a bit and it was fun, laggy, but the new dino abilities were nice. Is been almost a year, none of them play anymore, I myself dont play anymore. I had high hopes for Evrima, thinking that the devs had learned and improved, where going to build off of what they had created so far and make something even better. Yet it keeps falling short. I haven't been able to play the game in over a year now. It makes me sad to see a game with so much potential, brilliant ideas, and a passionate community behind it fail in the way this game has. I truly wish the best for this game, which is why I am so critical of it. I want it to succeed, and the second it does I will be right back to supporting it. Until then, I cant force myself to accept the current state of The Isle. sorry for the long rant, I just want our dino game to bring back the feeling of excitement I first felt playing with and alongside the many different dinos of legacy ^^

[@DiscountNoob02]

I absolutely agree with most of what your saying, however one thing is that the devs are focusing on making the new map better than Spiro, so they are actually focusing on the bugs Spiro has and they have taken a pretty good amount of input from what people say about the problems with Spiro, but everything else you said i 100% agree with.

[@belair1205]

what's the point if one in a hundred falls through the map on the beach? i've never heard of this problem on the forum on dc or on twitch. the devs ignore it because they need their resources for the new map. and i think that's right. it's always difficult to find the right way. how far do you listen to the community, but talking about the game as dead or bad is wrong. let the devs work on and that's it. the biggest problem of the community is their impatience.

[@DiscountNoob02]

@@belair1205 absolutely, I feel like people have forgotten the point of video games in general, and it’s to make a fun experience for everyone. People have gotten to wrapped up in wether the game is “good” or “bad.”

[@belair1205]

@@DiscountNoob02 Not only that, but people always get too hung up on the devs' statements or videos and misinterpret their own stuff. they put everything on the gold scale that the devs say. i think some of the devs' stuff is also intentional or marketing.

[@Oskrrr]

@@belair1205 Im sure the community have waited long enough for content for this game. calling us impatience is unfair when we have actually been patience af towards the devs and their bullshit excuses

[@euricoaw1535]

and guess what, they planned to release troodon which won't really add that much difference 😆

[@bazamere]

Yeah according to several devs the troodon has been "ready" even before pachy was released. It could be used as an easy carnivore for people that just want a quick game.

[@No_name8374]

If they stuck to the original plan with releasing troodon and dilo I wouldn’t care and actually be excited for troodon.

[@mikeoxsmal69]

@@No_name8374 if they stuck with the original plan, I bet that the game would be a lot more balanced and fun to play

[@No_name8374]

@@mikeoxsmal69 exactly! Originally gore was supposed to come out along side diet system. Which would’ve not only by going off the devs word. Sped up development! And actually would of made gore and actual worth while update! And not to mention the fact if they stuck to the original plan we could’ve had cerato galli ovi magy sucho beipi!

[@Nomorevideos-f5p]

I really want Troodon because I’m sick of playing the same dinos for 400 FUCKING DAYS

[@sziklamester1244]

Adding new dinos is important for roleplay and for ecosystem because that feels much more realistic when you have hundreds of species in an area (not only dinos) but other animals lived along with them. For critters they could add a lot of lizards, birdlike creatures, mammals and even bugs. The major issue however the lack of direction, unfinished contents and lags. I do not think a game which was made at this point over 10-13 year should kill my pc which is a good one. The fps drops are criminal and some objects or critters just outplaced or fly away like fishes, bushes and sometimes trees and rocks. Mechanics, gameplay content are important and these things needs to be done first, before they can add more dinos. I personally would like if we have already 30-40 and 200-300 on the list but actually these things are far from the reality. The game development overall is a hard task and as an outsider I cannot estimate the work what can be done because not known the amount of devs works for them and how they structuring their development. In the past there were issues inside the team and basically they needed to remake the game with the Evrima but this is still not an excuse to them. If they have the founds for develop the game they need to hire some more devs and explain them the roles what they need to make to speed up the process. Devs only can listen to feedbacks and concepts what they do want to make but need a gratification from the playerbase. Devs cannot add what the community wants and there are other games I play where the devs ignored to fix issues what the community spotted and actually sent feedbacks. There are more than 5-6 years old issues what was not fixed (Warframe) but still they add new content and seemingly they just fix things if really necessary to them. It is a hard cycle to be a dev and a consumer because both needs each other to thrive but this relationship is not easy to any of them. As a consumer you want a product that gives entertainment and fun to use as a dev you need to make profit and work on the game to be good and fun to play. In Isle I do play mainly Hypsi because I like the herbivores (currently no omnivore) and fast paced creatures. I would like more creatures in this tier and more variety.

[@solitaregames]

what do you want? game mechanics that work and dont bug or glitch? or adding dinos left and right without a care of them glitching the whole system? (Like what happened with legacy)

[@kuitaranheatmorus9932]

In short: because we want to see what the hell they'll do with the development releases. But overall I think this does pretty well at describing the essential aspects of developments, really hope you have a good day :) good video

[@eliasaltman4439]

I've actually stopped playing Evrima because I've gotten bored with the dinos. I've already played all of them end there's nothing new for me to do, no (significant) new feature has been implemented either to keep my interest. So until they release more dinos, I really don't feel like playing. I'm also very annoyed at the devs, constantly showing off new dinos but never actually releasing them. It's a shitty way to try to keep player's interest in the game without ever actually doing something new. They talk a lot but don't have much to show for it.

[@odyss160]

Well yeah it works to dangle a carrot in front of ppl. You see how many troglodytes defend this game that are okay to the lack there off because devs winked at them( some attention)and then pretend they aren't there. Mental mind **** for the submissives

[@ekaitzjuradoenciso2055]

'playeable dinosaurs are a gateway' See what you did there

[@MrSpoon-fm1ov]

Lets not forget Kissen said that the Stego was released cause they just wanted to give us another dino with an update instead of just no dinos. Now we haven't had a new dino in a year.

[@weaversong4377]

Now that I think of it, maybe the Dinosaur Sim SHOULD have dinosaurs!

[@dreamythememey6005]

I’m pretty sure they’ve said they don’t want a Dino sim game; but a survival horror one.

[@ecoverm6314]

@@dreamythememey6005 tha horror comes from the horrible development team

[@frostbitetheannunakiiceind6574]

@@ecoverm6314 LOL

[@weaversong4377]

@@dreamythememey6005 which also simulates a dinosaurs livelihood…?

[@dreamythememey6005]

@@ecoverm6314 trueeee haha

[@SGKeiana]

I've gotten to the point where it feels like I'm just being strung along with promises that will never be fulfilled. I was understanding and patient for the whole entire year, kept up on the latest development news, because I really want to stop playing legacy so I can stick to Evrima. But I'm not going to play anymore if they're just going to string us along for years and years. The game desperately needs more playables now and they KNOW it. I was so excited for Cerato...so curious to know what their plans for Rex are. Sick and tired of Carnos having free rein and no land competition from other large predators. Waiting...waiting...waiting...I'm done. Was an ok game while it lasted. Lot of potential wasted and rotted away.

[@rabidDAWGfan82]

I’ve reached the same point. The game will die completely before it ever reaches its potential. The dev team is just lazy. They were on Christmas break til jan 19th.

[@KashaLupul]

Preach

[@dragongirl89115]

@@rabidDAWGfan82 Wait, so the devs aren't even allowed to have holidays or time off?

[@rabidDAWGfan82]

@@dragongirl89115 where was that said or even implied? The point was how much time do people that don’t do shit as is need off? They’re selling a broken product, making false promises, and missing their own deadlines like “troodon before 2023. Take a week off, hell, even 2, but a month? Fuck off with that. Do your job.

[@rabidDAWGfan82]

@@dragongirl89115 you one of the chicks they were grooming or something? Get off their nuts they don’t care about you.

[@BunnyValentine439]

I mean I just wanna feel like I'm part of a diverse ecosystem of creatures that are no longer around. XD

[@ZmanImaGamer]

I love this game so much and have watched its development since 2016, but it’s been at least 6 months since I’ve had the urge to play it, I really hope they see this video

[@CraftyM2016]

You should make a video with the title "The Isle | Why FPS is Important"

[@takaromie7492]

Completely Agree!!! Got attacked on the discord for suggesting more dinos, so I'm glad to see some content creators agree with me. We waited almost 2 YEARS for Deino and now this long for what? Apparently they are working on Gateway and humans.. (Who really wants the humans besides Dondi? We have Ark for that imo.) it makes me go back to Legacy for that reason but bc Evrima feels smoother/faster I'm bouncing between both. I based my entire discord off this game and since then my friends have moved onto other games and bc of optimization too I just cant get them back on. Understandably why. I play Bob as well but its become a toxic community with clans ruling it (cant get anywhere solo) and its too "cartoony" for my friends (tbh I do prefer Isles realism more) Though BoB DOES have the mechanics and weather. (Seriously why is there no weather on Evrima not even simple rain!?) I haven't tried PoT bc the price and what looks like a lot of rubberbanding/optimization issues. Just give us the more dinos! As a dinosaur lover, I miss the sparkles I had in my eyes when this game first came out. So many games have been breaking my heart with what they COULD be and this is at the top of the list.

[@IndominusRex-wc1ey]

I saw a suggestion that was nothing but "add more dinos" proceed to get like 20 upvotes and 10-15 downvotes, i cant comprehend why 15 people don't even remotely want new dinosaurs

[@barbiana1965]

I really hope the devs sell the game to a bigger company at some point so we actually get to play the game :,)

[@rabidDAWGfan82]

@@varatic644 who cares if it’s turned into a playable game. Either way i don’t see a big company wanting to invest in this. If anything they’d make their own from the ground up.

[@XxDroxzxX]

@@varatic644 i would happily pay 70 dollars for an 2 dino game package if that means the game gets developed faster and weg get more playables

[@alejandrovallejo4330]

The concept of this game is absolutely great IMO, but the devs are..... horrible, to put it lightly. They put supposedly so many hours working in the game, but it doesn’t seem like they make almost any progress at all. All of this is made worse by the fact that for some reason they don’t like modding, so instead of allowing the community to mod and keep their game alive while they take decades to finish it, they prefer to let it slowly while they spend so much time working on it.

[@gabausaurus8315]

Very interesting, i can't wait to see some new dinosaur like the beipi which is unique in every possible way. (also great elden ring theme choices in the background)

[@ferdy7p861]

People Will play beipi for 3 weeks and stop, I just can't with these devs either, of course i'm with You, we need more dinos. And beipi is taking way too long

[@MarcosVSantiago]

@@ferdy7p861 Beipe, troodon, herrera and any other small, "one shot one kill" kinda of animal they add is going to fall in the same trap. That's the main reason nobody gives a fuck about hypsi and dryo, literally wasted months of development

[@ferdy7p861]

@@MarcosVSantiago bro dryo is dumb, i'm preety sure u can't Even burrow

[@rabidDAWGfan82]

@@ferdy7p861 yeah why add such a borning Dino at this point.

[@ferdy7p861]

@@rabidDAWGfan82 fr, like it Will get 2 shotted by Utah, probably 1 shot by carno It's dumb

[@walkerlenon9811]

Uh they are lazier than they want to appear, simple as that. No INDIE game i can think of does anything like what the isle does because they would die so fast. And i do think it is that black and white Dondi just manipulated his way to the top and now his team is barely picking up the pieces.

[@evestargaze1091]

Kinda pissed its been over a year. I wasnt keeping track, 1 new dino isnt gonna hurt & they have teased so many now.

[@Patrick3183]

Please make a video about Dondi and the infamous devs!

[@blue4669]

Isn't there already a Dirty Dev video on Dondi?

[@rylanbrewer3320]

That ones around 2 years old

[@thunderclanwarrior1253]

I wrote this cement before I finished the video, and literally as I played it he explained my point. That just shows that anyone with a brain can figure this out. So the devs have no excuse. Why wait to implement the payables after the core mechanics are finished? That means nothing. You still have to create animations for them and you still have to make them compatible with the current systems. The only difference is doing it later instead of now, when there's a ton of work to do. That doesn't make sense to me. They missed out on so many opportunities. Update 4 was diets and fractures or something. Whatever, when they released the fracture system, they released a Dino that CAUSES fractures. Great! Stick to it. Update 5 they should have released the Orvi: everyone is making eggs. Introduce a new playable that STEALS them to create a challenge. 5.5 was supposed to be improved night vision I think. Awesome, introduce a nocturnal predator. With or without venom, it would add interest and keep people playing. Update 6 was gore. SO ADD THE CERATO WHO LOTS OF PEOPLE WANT AND ACTUALLY EATS ROTTEN MEAT FLFHROFHRMF This is why their argument of adding playables after the mechanics are finished makes no sense to me. If you add Orvi in update 5 before gore, you'll hate to make it compatible with gore along the update process of gore. Guess what, you'd STILL have to make it compatible with gore later! Along with a million other mechanics which would just slow it down. I can guess that they don't want to slow an update down because they're updating 15 playables... There's ways to problem solve! Build the mechanics up using one easy dino. Once it works for this one and the mechanics or gore are polished, add it to the others one by one. You already have the code and models figured out, you just add it to the other creatures and modify it!!

[@altercard5389]

Remember when they said 1 dino a week or per 2 weeks?

[@MarcosVSantiago]

I wish I had screenshots of all the lies and broken promises of this dev team... It would make a good compilation

[@altercard5389]

@@MarcosVSantiago probably a bunch of em if you look through isle news

[@mikaelangehagen7251]

Their name after thought really fits

[@Supersaurus4]

They've shown several concepts of dinos that are going to be added, they've shown previews of Troodon and Cerato, yet they still aren't in it. I really hope they eventually get added along with some more.

[@guarddoggo]

I have no clue how they think they can add 50+ dinos when they can’t even add one after a whole year. The devs are biting off way more then they can chew with this game. This games gonna get an award for ‘longest time in early access’ xd

[@fransthefox9682]

Maybe by the end of the 22nd century, we will ge a new dino. Shouldn't get my hopes up though.

[@ethanjefferson]

I’ve completely given up on evrima. When I’m not playing path of titans I’ll get on legacy. Idk how path of titans have released so many playables, basically a whole game while evrima is so stagnant. So sad.

[@Qbliviens]

Couldn't have said it better. Imo they should have sticked to the old roadmap, where they would have released a mechanic alongside 1 or 2 dinos that primarily utilise it. Fractures and pachy, Diets/gore with Cera and Magy, Night vision and Venom with Dilo and Troodon, Nesting with Oviraptor. However like this they not only didn't release anything making the game worth playing in over a year, they also butchered the balancing of the existing rooster so much it's literally less fun to play than in early 2021 before update 3.5 (not even mentioning the terrible perfomance where I can't get more than 15 fps near several other players despite upgrading my pc). In the same time Path of titans has released 7 new playables and several completely new mechanics like new diving and flying and somehow nothing is stopping them from adding a ton of playables first and core mechanics afterwards. When they added growth for example there were already over 20 dinosaurs in the game and that didn't stop them, so I call BS on this "we need the mechanics first"

[@KenanTheFab]

"we are focused on mechanics above dinos thats why we added hypsi, dryo, stego and carno all of which use exclusive mechanics only they currently use and none of which are integral to the game. Also no you cannot have troodon until venom is finished and also Oviraptor/Cera who dat"

[@brutalisplays]

Amazing Content Zag!

[@BavarianHobbit]

I recently started playing evrima again and I gotta say that I really enjoy playing ptera. Its mostly for trolling but still, makes me laugh every now and then. But the map has a few major issues. 1. Outsides of rivers there are barely any drinking sources. You can grow your dino for hours but everytime you go drink its a death trap thanks to all the deino players. 2. The map feels extremely empty even on a full 100 player map. Where is all the life? Seeing a frog jumping around in an entire swamp area doesn't make it feel lively when there should be dozens of frogs, fish, etc. 3. The entire beach zone is useless except one area. The one where there is a drinking water source and a few sea turtles. Thats it. The rest of the beach is completely empty, no life in sight. 4. Poor dino variety as said in the video. Just way too few dinos to play with and some of them still lack their mechanics. I can't wait for the day to finally play my fav dino: Ankylosaurus.

[@whywatt733]

Another brilliant video. Cheers

[@athenaexalted8257]

The Elden Ring music in the background is all i can focus on lol

[@libertymelt0207]

before im watching the full vid i already know im gonna agree with him thx for your channel i think u have the best takes on the isle

[@nothing0e]

This is why I went with BoB instead of TI. Idgaf about any other issues, but at least add more playables. Jesus.

[@alessiorex8489]

can you talk about cenozoic survival (roblox) sometimes, i would really like it, thank you. Anyway great video!!!!

[@MyUniverseinaBox]

I agree in part They need better PR, like way better PR. The constant teasing videos and devs saying that 'dinos are ready' and then not releasing them for months is confusing but saying they've been 'ignoring the dinos' is ridiculous They are actively working on them Art takes time. Artists are not machines. They'll be ready when they are ready.

[@niallmoseley6760]

When are we getting that really cool looking spino

[@Nana-sc6mj]

Great video again Zag! Really loving the high quality and effort you put into analyzing things. I wouldn’t wish this since the fan boys would tear you to shreds, but video idea “what happened to X” things that were supposed to be implemented then excused off the board.

[@badgoror2390]

I am very understanding and sympathetic towards the devs for how much work they do on the game, and how much time development takes. However, they have the ability to add the creatures they have stated as already finished, and their refusal to do so has turned the community against them. It is absolutely necessary that new creatures be added for the game to live on, and they CAN NOT keep making us wait, or the player base wont even be able to forgive them once these creatures are eventually added.

[@TheConGaminator]

Stack that on the pile of reasons why this dev team gets a bad rap.

[@solitaregames]

if you want to make things faster then consider becoming an investor. They are a small indie team without a mayor company backup with resources. If they do not have the money to pay a specialist to work on an aspect of the game, they have to work with what they have first. Which is why the game mechanics are a priority. Once the game mechanics are done and tested then the other things can be added easily. And if they hire freelance to work on other aspects of the game, they have to submit to the freelance's time, not theirs. Have you thought of that? Just let them work and polish the quirks, the other things will come naturally.

[@TheConGaminator]

@@solitaregames Seven years. Seven years of "done"ing and "fix"ing. Seven years of hype and hope. Seven years and they still don't know what they're doing. But people are still spending 20 dollars on this game, so they keep on doing it. but it eez wut it eez. people could spend twenty dollars on worse.

[@solitaregames]

@@TheConGaminator Money talks, if there is no money there is no progress. Instead of complaining, offer your help or become an investor. That will make things go faster. 20 bucks is pocket money compared to how much you have to pay specialized people for modeling, animation, and designing. People paying 20 bucks once in a while to buy is less than every day you having to pay 100 dollards a day, or for work hour to a designer. These people are a small independant team, not a big company with lots of resources at disposal and *they also have lives they are not machines.* The Isle has taken too long because people are adding legacy into the mix of time. Legacy was scrapped and they started to re-design in a new direction. Evrima is a brand new game with brand new mechanics and totally different than Legacy. And they want to make it as professional as they can especially with the new unreal engine.

[@TheConGaminator]

@@solitaregames nah, i'd rather complain :)

[@trykolo_indercrin]

im waiting for the ava concept art video

[@DailyCommentorr]

We NEED new dinosaurs. So far I rarely see any Utahs, hypsies, pachys, etc. Mostly carnos, stegos, and LOTS of Deinos. I played PT and saw on Islander’s server the majority of it is made of Deinos. Now I could’ve logged on during a time when there’s a lot of Deinos, it’s still extremely sucky. Doesn’t feel like The Isle anymore tbh

[@princevermilion8799]

Doesn't feel like the isle because the servers aren't 80% rexes any more xD

[@KashaLupul]

I fking hated Carnos in legacy so seeing all carnos makes me wanna vomit

[@creakingskull7008]

Based stormveil castle music

[@Earthtail25]

Been playing since 2016 and I have 1,000+ hours in this game. It has been absolutely frustrating watching this game be in development for 7 years to never fully deliver on anything they plan. I can't play The Isle in it's current state on either branch. Nothing will never be as much of a slap in the face as the "Hope" trailer followed by Evrima's release. Evrima coming out with two dinosaurs in a virtually unplayable state after a year of no updates and another year of relative silence killed any love I had left for the game. I have no 'hope', I only have frustration.

[@ian07lukino81]

Good video

[@wvmaniac7205]

Bro i can't even connect to their servers anymore. I think they need to start there.

[@mernyr]

Quality over quantity is a good thing but the lack of diversity in the roster does hurt gameplay… mainly because everyone is primarily playing the deino.

[@lieutenanttrashcan4950]

love the elden ring music

[@84ceasar]

To be honest, developers are creating game they will enjoy and play. And they do enjoy and play it with more dinos, they know how Rex looks and feels in Evrima, they hunt with pack of Alosaurus and defend with Trikes because they have all those to test and to balance, so for them game is playable. They do not want to go public with that because devs need to do it in some order so they have less headache after with more work.

[@robdotgif]

Autoplay brought me to this channel for the first time and i legit thought this was like a tier zoo type of semi meme semi educational, use videogame language to explain biology type beat kind of video for like the first minute beofre i looked at the title 💀

[@Patrick3183]

God please drop more playables. The Isle is getting a bad reputation

[@conanthelibrarian5139]

Getting?!?!

[@heli0ns]

I don't think their reputation could get much worse than it already is. :P

[@IndominusRex-wc1ey]

Already HAD a bad reputation, getting a really shitty one rn

[@84ceasar]

Did they switched to Unreal 5 or they are using Unreal 4?

[@No_name8374]

Still UE 4

[@Oeslian]

Adding more dinosaurs will make the existing ones more interesting. For example people complain that stego is OP, it really isn't OP it just lacks real threats in the current meta. Add TRex and Stego becomes way more interesting without doing any work on stego.

[@marvinrsbm2246]

abandoning the isle community and switching to PoT after hearing they plan on making their dinos more unique and adding more species this year. all you losers who said evrima would be the greatest to dino survival genre after seeing their 2020 hope trailer, we still dont even have the para or rex and sucho that appeared in the trailer let alone anything else that was teased since then. i might consider checking the game out in another 5 to 10 years. cya

[@nickzaccheo9294]

The game is a fantasy for the devs and its arguable that their depiction for the future of the game (and its progress over time) is nothing compared to the more popular depictions & expectations of what the fans want (AND DESERVE!!). Lets get something straight, THEY PAID YOU TO DEVELOP THIS GAME! AND YOU NEED CONTENT TO ACCOMIDATE YOUR PLAYERBASE (in one way or another) OR YOURE GOING TO LOSE YOUR COMMUNITY - PERIOD. They are literally "playing" you at this point; all while they are now telling you not to have an expectation. Constantly contradicting themselves. Giving you "run-around" answers about development. Seemingly politicizing the the questions and answers on the discord. Telling you "I can't comment on this" OR "I can't say too much". Even borderline arguing with community members. They are hiding behind the expectation they gave you from the VERY BEGINNING (Hope Trailer). I dare you to youtube the early EVRIMA progress development videos. Half of them are missing online anymore. Were talking 2 years ago. TWO YEARS FOLKS! Clearly, this is a small studio that got even smaller (with no money) and they need your intrigue so they can stay on STEAM (relevant) and most importantly, so Dondi can slowly build HIS dream. NOT YOURS.

[@No_name8374]

Yeah that’s the isle in a nutshell :P also! I think there is another dinosaur KZbinr who may have found some of those old development videos!

[@solitaregames]

@Nick Zacheo No sir, you are completely wrong. Nobody here is paying the Isle team sht for them to work. Are you an investor? Are you paying monthly them to work? No. Because you payed 20 bucks ONE TIME? Yeah no that doesnt cover the aspect of "paying you to work". Only those that pay them each moth, each week, each day to keep working on the game has the right to throw in their faces the "I am paying you to work". 20 bucks doesn't make any difference with how much making a game costs without a big company's backup with large resources. People NEED TO LEARN that this IS NOT a finished game. Its on TESTING and EXPERIMENTAL stages. Right now they are ADDING GAME MECHANICS and TESTING them. This indie team is doing what they can, juggling their life and the game on a small team, and earning little income to pay specialist to work on certain aspects of the game and the team has to submit to THE FREELANCER'S TIME to do so. And if people keep btching as if they owned everything, speaking sht as if they know how to make a game or making demands as if they are doing something to help; the worst to come is they canceling the entire project and give their backs then everybody looses; just like how they scrapped Legacy. Instead of complaining and arguing with them: BECOME AN INVESTOR. Or OFFER HELP. And for what I see, they are getting tired of how many spoiled brats btch about a game that is not even a finished product but on beta test stage. *That is why they do not inform people about anything*

[@No_name8374]

@@solitaregames well technically we may have payed 20 bucks but the devs don’t always see that full 20 bucks if at all due to steam taking a cut off every purchase.

[@solitaregames]

@@No_name8374 that makes it even worst, giving it even more to my point.

[@No_name8374]

@@solitaregames exactly!

[@Nomorevideos-f5p]

Let’s be honest here we all just want new dinos nothing else (apart from bug fixes)

[@bladded2074]

I'm considering switching to Path of Titans, they have a large variety of dinosaurs to play as, and always have new releases of dinosaurs, I'm not a fan of their quest system however, it's the only thing keeping me to the Isle.

[@xaphelion]

If it helps I know they have a questing update scheduled that supposedly will try and address some common complaints. I need to look more into what info we have for that update, but the PoT devs definitely realize it’s not great rn

[@evanmildrum897]

Id recommend pot. I’ve been playing for the last month or so and I’ve been having a lot of fun. Also there is community servers you can play on that have passive growth like the isle on top of quests

[@bladded2074]

@@evanmildrum897 dang, it's a must for me then, I've seen the game in videos and it's beautiful, also can you buy the game in CAD? I've just seen the preferred currency option and it's only USD and EUR

[@uhohEllis]

@@bladded2074 I’m in Canada and have bought multiple copies (gifting to friends). No issues.

[@Justmonika6969]

PoT is way better atm. There are definitely aspects of The Isle that I prefer but PoT has a lot of the winning formula for a successful game. The devs being open and supportive of modding is a HUGE plus that cannot be understated. A lot of modded creatures have already been added, making the roster absolutely massive.

[@FinnOAventureiro]

The big problem with the isle is; This is not an beta early access game, this is an pre-alpha game that needed to be entirely remade in 2019, so we can pretty much forget any development time before that, that said, this game is literally being made its core and foundantions while trying to be played and treated normally by it's devs and community. This is really unusual even for the indie industry, where a lot of games are launched in beta or EA after 3 to 4 years of initial development within an state were the only thing left to do is add content and improve things, this is not the case with the isle, and you guys need to realize that. I'm not being a dev bootlicker, i'm frustrated with this game as much as the next person, but we need to be realistic and lower our expectations for now.

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

4:30 I guess birds don't exist

[@manofbias8113]

I have logged over 700 hours in the isle, most of which was in the legacy version. After the launch of the Evrima update i lost all hope and faith in the game and its developers, they cannot be trusted. They promised polish and delivered a game that barely functioned, deprived of important game mechanics, and only had 2 playable's. If they were honest and transparent about their status of development i would respect them, but they are not, and choose to lie in an attempt to make themselves and their game look better than it actually is. At this point, no matter what they say or do, i will not trust them with the development of the isle. It has been 8 years, the game is still in early access, and development has only gotten slower and slower despite claiming it would speed up after Evrima's release. I say abandon hope in reference to their hope trailer, we need a new developer to come along and try to make their own game based on the isle. I have been trying to make my own game based on the isle on and off for some years now, i struggle with programming and other technical skills, but i will not give up, and i will continue to try and give my best effort into developing this game, even if that means i have to do it alone, but if there is anyone out there that is passionate about these games and wants to try and help me, i will take all the help i can get. It does not matter what your qualifications are, any and all help will be greatly appreciated. The game i want to play does not exist, so i will bring it into existence.

[@blue4669]

Godspeed

[@IndominusRex-wc1ey]

Hope your project gets off the ground, and hopefully you and whatever team you may get (assuming you get a development team) aren't as shit as the isle...

[@guarddoggo]

Cheers to that! Ive been learning to program myself and would gladly help you if i can.

[@manofbias8113]

@@guarddoggo i think my reply got lost in the void, id greatly appreciate any help

[@x2TruNation]

Lose your speed, lose your lead. If The Isle doesn’t pick up, someone else will.

[@IndominusRex-wc1ey]

Both PoT and BoB have set a course for saying what is essentially fuck you to the isle

[@beastmaster0934]

And BoB and PoT are doing just that.

[@felixthecat7303]

That spino trailer is the reason why I bought the game. And I didn't found it 😬

[@odyss160]

3 years from now they'll just rebuild the game from the ground up because reasons, with new promises and the cycle continues. I'll loose my $#!% laughing

[@cysgod04]

I really feel like I'm scammed. It's been years since Evrima release but because of lack of species, I really got bored. I will not gonna play it anymore since I'm growing and I will not play games this common (or rarely like few days a month). I wish I bought Path of Titans but now I can't buy because of economical crisis on our country.

[@wizardoflolz5626]

to be fair compared to bob and pot the isle evrima is a far better quality item, animation wise, immersion wise, visually and one can even argue thematically . it would indeed be great if they had speedier development and dont fuck up balance so much but let's see how it goes.

[@mikeoxsmal69]

I mean I wouldn’t compare it to bob, when both games are going for extremely different things

[@No_name8374]

I agree this is why I love the isle soo much you can just feel the quality put into the dinosaurs movement and designs! Path of titans is some crtl c crtl v shit half the time and well bob is bob.

[@armadillo3454]

As long as you can wait for years for any decent development yeah sure.

[@wizardoflolz5626]

@@armadillo3454 yeah unfortunately for the scope of what they aim to deliver it's impossible to do this without enough people, so it ll take them forever, or never because at any moment they can fail and call it a day.

[@rabidDAWGfan82]

Which proves the point of the video. Evrima is better in every way except the amount of playables, which is why pot has more people on it.

[@KippariVille]

This game will never be finished

[@olku9909]

they need to fix low FPS problems. But hei dont fix

[@NightBane345]

The Isle is gonna die out, before it even gets close to finish, that's what I see for the future of The Isle. Dondi haven't really been trustworthy with stuff over the years

[@hak1111111]

I dont know much about the devs financial situation, but I think the isle's price on steam is super low compared to the game's gigantic scope (only $20). The devs wouldnt have enough money to complete the project. And they cant expand their team to roll out updates faster. I have a feeling the game would be abandoned again or they will be asking for more money via DLCs or something. And I think thats fair

[@IndominusRex-wc1ey]

Allegedly from what I've been told the isle devs have more than enough money (words by the devs themselves). Some people have analyzed sales of merchandise and the game itself, resulting in the game racking up millions of dollars (somehow) so money shouldn't be a problem

[@hak1111111]

@@IndominusRex-wc1ey Thanks for the info. I wonder why they don't expand their team, hire more people to work on the game faster

[@IndominusRex-wc1ey]

@@hak1111111 they did manage to recently get a new animator (was featured in a dev blog) and the dev team is like 20 strong. For reference, BoB, one of The Isle's largest competitors is ran by like maybe 6 guys. Path of Titans, another of those competitors, is ran by like 7 and both of them push out more and potentially more polished and actually playable content unlike TI. If 20 devs isn't enough I cant comprehend why they wouldn't get more people on the project

[@CptDawner]

Dude, these devs are so ass. They’ve been constantly making excuses for years. Idc how in depth your systems are. Every time they come out with a new feature, they say something in the vein of: “Now that *X simple and easily solvable programmer problem* is out of the way we can bring content to you more frequently!” And then they don’t add something new for 7 months.

[@dinnersam2121]

They will come once there ready

[@mateuszanarolli7450]

Secret dev identified 🦕👀

[@Hawks282]

Eww

[@Nomorevideos-f5p]

Yeah but come on most games don’t take 400 days to add a new playable

[@lynxhunter]

The Isle will be dead at this point.

[@dinnersam2121]

@@lynxhunter bro the game is not even dying it has too much of a fan base that keeps it going plus many said it was for years and it hasn't. Your just going to have to wait till they update. Take a break while you wait easy.

[@clevertroodon6396]

It did get us humans in the game, even if its only in the comunity servers

[@IndominusRex-wc1ey]

Hardly even functioning humans that don't even come with a percent of what has been promised for humans, along with them not being on official servers (the servers with the most players) but they're humans...

[@guarddoggo]

I dont even know why they try with humans anymore. This isnt primal carnage, i can hardly think of a way where hours of growth dinosaurs vs guns will ever be balanced

[@lukasnather4429]

I Think its obvious, in short. You cant have a Dinosaur survivor game with no new dinosaurs

[@mongooseodon7608]

The fact that people want dinosaurs, but constantly judge and hate on the one dinosaur that is confirmed to come is ridiculous, if you’re going to beg and whine for a dinosaur, then get mad for the dinosaur they release, you have a lot coming

[@No_name8374]

Like yeah it is VERY hypocritical for people to get mad that we don’t have any playables yet… and then get mad that we’re possibly getting troodon and beipi soon. Like I get the anger with troodon and personally I could care less about small omiraptor. I’m at least grateful we’re getting something! But personally I rather they just throw troodon off to the side and give us beipi instead :3

[@joseonwalking8666]

@@No_name8374 neither will.comeout any time soon they teased them 8 months ago. Meanwhile PoT and BoB have had like 5 major updates

[@No_name8374]

@@joseonwalking8666 it’s gonna be at most two months due to how finished both are. It’s definitely gonna be sooner than later!

[@TheConGaminator]

This game makes a lot of money off of unfulfilled promises. And yet somehow, they still can't fund a stable simulator. Hm, I wonder why.. 🤔

[@shaxo5364]

I mean yeah mechanics normally are more important than playables but playables are also pretty important.

[@solitaregames]

but if mechanics doesnt work as they should playables will screw things even more than help.

[@shaxo5364]

@@solitaregames that's exactly what I mean, mechanics are first and foremost important, in order for when the playable get's into the game, he'll have a niche to fill and if done right, everything will be right in place, but playables are also important, bc in the end of the day those mechachics are meant for the playables.

[@solitaregames]

@@shaxo5364 the thing is, my maite; that they already provided the decent amount of playables to test, especially a mechanics. And once those are polished, they add a new playable with a new mechanics which they have to test. That was the problem with legacy. They began adding and adding and adding without mechanic testing and that became a soup of bugs and glitches. so taking it slow on round two is the best choice. Not to mention that coding something is the hardest part. Working with algorythms are a pain in the behind and making them work without glitches is even more a pain. It takes time, and it takes effort and that is what people dont see. modeling playables is the easiest part, but making them work that doesnt break the game is the hardest part.

[@shaxo5364]

@@solitaregames exactly and I don't mind honestly waiting a long time for a playable so long as it has a working mechanic that differentiate it from the rest, Hans why I didn't like rugops concept and it being as simple as it is, now ofc having to wait more than a whole year for a playable, is definitely a bit upsetting and I can see the frustration for sure, but I'm sure they had other things that prioritized them more than just adding playables, as far as ik having to work on three updates being 5/5.5/6 and on top having to work on a whole different map, adding and starting a work on humans and a whole migration system, which to me it doesn't sound like little things here and there, but what do I know :/?

[@solitaregames]

@@shaxo5364 you know, the wait will end being upsetting once people take out of their minds that this is a finished game, when is not. This is a beta testing game not a finished product. When people get in their heads that right now, Evrima is on testing periods, experimenting on game mechanics... then wait frustration shall seize. It is frustrating because people are adding the time of legacy into evrima. "its been 10 years since they began" Well yes its true. But the thing is... the legacy project was scrapped, Evrima is a brand new game, totally different than legacy. Which is why they are two games apart. Evrima has "The isle" in name only as this game is not the same game but a "spiritual successor". In a sense, a sequel to the original. Once you think about that. Then the wait gets less frustrating.

[@Blaxel.is.fantastic]

To keep the game fun?

[@TomQuixoteDeLaGanja]

nahhh, why add new content ! probably they will re-do the game entirely again for a new unity version , so they have an excuse ...again .

[@Fitzness1]

Gonna like the video but just came here to comment “because it’s a fuckin dinosaur game” end of story ciao

[@RemnantSoul]

Isle vids just depress me now. I just mod for folks who *force* themselves to play the game now. They secretly cannot stand it anymore, it's like pulling teeth for them but they don't want to give up hope. I find myself saying this a lot now... But The Isle Community has Stockholm Syndrome. They've unknowingly let the devs take them hostage and now they deny the mistreatment they get, turn a blind eye to the bugs, make excuses for the poor optimization, and attack the competition with ravenous fury. The Devs do not have a Content Roadmap not a Content Development map. - Each dev just works on whatever the hell they please, so there is no streamlined process (which gets content out faster). - Game priorities are completely broken. Instead of focusing on critical issues. (FPS drops in specific map areas, mechanic bugs, Fatal Error triggers, New Content) They focus on plants moving, gore, crowbars, and Trailers for content not even close to half completion. - Any form of critical feedback is ignored, deleted, blocked, etc. (Only praise us. Never criticize.) Addendum to this: It also seems that flaws or issues pointed out are then ignored out of spite unless it so gamebreaking it cannot be ignored. I call this out cause they CAN get content out when a fire has been lit under there ass and they work together. IE: The Gateway Map Funny how once Path of Titans released Gondwa and massive crowds flocked to it, the team managed to very, very quickly pull together a workable & playable variant of "Gateway" in around a week or 2. Was the map refined and ready to go live? No. But it went from "It's in dev and isn't ready st all." to "Here's a playtest/stresstest!" in record (by Isle standards) time. To be blunt. The devs are complacent and full of themselves now thanks to the community's Stockholm Syndrome. For example: They literally made an update that made dead bodies more intractable (Credit where it is due, it also made carnivore diets simpler and added 1 extra layer to diets via "buffs") and the community took it as if it was the first rain after a year long drought. Guess reaction to the crowbar update will be akin to seeing the sun rise after a decade of perpetual night? Honestly, I feel like they need motivation to pull their studio together, commit to a development plan, prioritize releases/create a release schedule, then get it done. Ex: Every 3 months there is a groundwork & mechanic update. (Bugs, Optimization, Mechanic issues from Dinos to map, etc), every 6 months a new dino is added to "spice" up the game. Dinos and content repaired/added should be on a "Let's look at the state of the gameplay loop" perspective. (IE: If everyone is playing only Stego & Carno, there is something very, very wrong.) How to do they get motivation? Well of we look at their whiplash reaction to Path of Titans' updates... The community needs to ban together and stop playing. Once those numbers dramatically drop...I'd be surprised if suddenly Ceratosaurus, Troodon, Galimimus, and/or etc aren't "magically" finished and added to the playable roster. Suddenly "Gateway" & humans near release, & etc. Ok...getting off my soapbox... I just want to see this community's faith get rewarded. But considering how long this game has been in dev... 😬

[@valiatus6719]

Isle Dev Reaction: Criticism and or "Suggestions" will not be tolerated, this kind of hate speech is unacceptable, you will be banned from the isle's discord and other social media platforms. The isle development will continue as planned without interruption.

[@bavo981]

I am really not interested in the new map or the humans in these games, I can appreciate all the work that goes into the props and the locations that are man made but damn is it just not for me, especially this unfinished harbor naval base or whatever that thing on Spiro is supposed to be, it's ugly and takes me out of it. I started playing evrima because it looks so much better than legacy, I am no graphics whore but it seems like a demo sandbox for how long it's been out. Just a few more dinosaurs here and there would be great. And even then it's gonna be some little annoying gimmicky piece of shit like the Hypsi which just takes up space in a server imo.

[@No_name8374]

Hypsi takes up the roster space cause you bet your sweet bottom at most two people are playing that little annoyance!

[@IndominusRex-wc1ey]

@@No_name8374 after returning to TI after an actual year due to shitty optimization (only reason I returned is because new pc) i have seen maybe 3 hypsis and unironically zero dryos. Good roster guys

[@No_name8374]

@@IndominusRex-wc1ey well that’s one more than I predicted lmao 💀

[@bavo981]

@@IndominusRex-wc1ey Now that you say it, yeah. Dryo's are even rarer lol, found a corpse of a fresh spawn in the canyon but that is about it.

[@rpscorp9457]

Tried it, refunded it.

[@liamnissanS2K]

There are no unique experiences In The Isle right now. There NEEDS to be Apex's and more mid tiers , I dont care what anyone says. There Is zero sense of wonder seeing a bunch of Carno or Utah running around. Various random features aren't doing ANYTHING for the current game.

[@Valka101]

i'm sorry the isle developers are just lazy, i played the game since day one.

[@DookieMeister51]

it doesn’t help that evrima got like 3 dinos that nobody care about… like fr hypsi? dryo? ptera? only thing cool or useful about ptera is that it can fly, and other than that they’re all useless. Game needs a way to flesh out these smaller dinos, or just don’t waste time making them. nobody is gonna play 🤷‍♂️

[@Mckudenomg]

I know we had the same roster for over a year now, but tbh all the stuff they have been delivering have been worth the wait... the scavenger, skimming, diet, nesting... these all are systems very well done (with obvious minus bugs) and make the isle the epitome of the genre even after some heavy weights with more extended roster arrived... The only problem I see is that deino players are very toxic to the community. Deino have very obvious advantages and its the heaviest carnivore rn, so its the perfect choice for mediocre players. Until they add more dinosaurs to scatter the playerbase or give humans range weapons, deino stacks are gonna be a problem.

[@KashaLupul]

They were supposed to have nesting when it came out. They dry fucked everyone who loved the isle

[@cipsahoy9639]

They’re not. The game needs to be PLAYABLE FIRST. Ffs the optimization and lag are unplayable

[@seanpellerin5703]

The problem there is that the devs keep making new things that only worsen the problems. Evrima was never optimized since day one. which is a huge mistake by the devs. they should have made a stable base game before launch. but they keep pushing through with more and more buggy and laggy maps and updates that add things that should be added only once the game can be run smoothly.

[@tunaozturk2639]

They wont fix the lag

[@tunaozturk2639]

They even said if u are lagging upgrade ur pc the devs dont give a fk about lag they have spaceships as pc they dont lag we lag they do not care the old game had shit optimization for years they didnt fix it u think they will fix this ? Been 2 years if they wanted to fix it they would before adding more mechanics optimizeing a game with less mechanics is way easyer either they have no idea how to make games or they dont give a fk about optimization

[@prehistoricanimations922]

I just played Evrima a few days ago, even at lowest settings, the game was going at 12 fps per second!!

[@tunaozturk2639]

@@prehistoricanimations922 i can run elden ring on high grapchis with 50-60fps and evrima in low/medium graphics 20 fps

[@Vampshroom420]

im over the isle. they can take there nonstop ADHD concept art and shove it. they need leadership on there dev team. everyone is doing random shit that never has anything to do with the current update or an update anywhere close. im at the point where i have moved on. the other dino games are starting to become a threat

[@Krona-fb4dn]

The game is doomed and has been for a long time. Its approaching nearly a decade since release and its not even clear if its much further along than it would've been if they kept it the same, IMO at least. Spaghetti code yeah and I'm not gonna act like I know coding (I don't and its frankly daunting from what I know) but constantly resetting development multiple times (sandbox to prog, prog to survival and redoing many perfectly functional models, to remaking the code, etc.) I've never played The Recode branch (I'm not giving it the dignity of calling it the stupid word that the manchild named Dondi insists we call it) and I don't think I ever will since I've given this game too many chances.

[@Draconisa]

... Isle is like that alle the time. Thats why i dont play it anymore. remembers the first trailer to Evrima? And what is it 3 years later? Not even half the way done. The same was mit legecy, but that one is at least playable and was more or less fun. Isle devs ignore the needs of the players or they make fun of them. Move on and get to POT

[@RainbowdashLT]

Let's be honest..Isle devs are just awful dev and the game is awful seeing as how unbalanced it is

[@solitaregames]

This is why I prefer closed beta testing on games rather than early access. Because people who knows nothing about game dev are the ones who speaks the most. Treating a game on early access as if they are a finished product just because they can buy and play on it. When early access means beta testing, which means experimental and testing stages. This is why mayor companies with MMORPG only do closed beta testing on new games. So they do not have to deal with spoiled brats who think they deserve everything in a silver platter.

[@XZaguer]

Oh man I still have to see a game in close beta for 7 years

[@solitaregames]

@@XZaguer I dont know if you are being sarcastic or truesome. but *here is the first mistake:* Small team indie devs are not big companies with lots of resources that can finish a game quickly. Most indie teams go early access on steam to try to get some income to make progress. And I seen so many indie on early access. Big companies doesnt need early access because they have investors and large teams. And *another mistake:* Is adding the time of legacy together with evrima. Legacy was scrapped after being worked on. Evrima is a brand new game with different mechanics and system. A sequel to the original if you may. That is why its 2 games apart, and to access evrima you need to access the beta client, which you need to download to use because it does not use anything from original. Showing that they are not the same game but two different projects which just share a name.

[@Nana-sc6mj]

@@solitaregames here is your first mistake; Donald was wealthy enough to jumpstart his game despite the failure of any program, or kickstarter to succeed. 2. Legacy also has “recodes” and different versions of itself. Nobody had forced this team to recode the game. There was progression before survival. There was experimental branch with the stable release branch. Eventually there will be a new Version of evrima. With everything replaced and redone. Donald is known for “recodes” or making new versions of the same game for this game as well as his past. 3. The isle. Is the isle. Is the isle. Is the isle. If there’s a remodel of a dinosaur, does it mean we cannot criticize it because it’s new? No. So surely we can criticize a product we paid for. That’s the point of the review tab at the bottom. I can simplify this further for you if needed. 4. If evrima was a sequel. In any shape or form they would be bound to make an entirely new store page. Sequels will never share store pages bc if it’s a DIFFERENT game-then it’s a different game. Fact check says? False. Evrima is still the isle. 5. Evrima is even getting up there in years and we still have LAUNCH day issues. You tried 🎉

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@@solitaregames also wanna mention before they ruined their reputation, they were able to hire out an entire team if they had wanted. Dondi had stated “we don’t mindless drones” so instead of every other indie team- Dondi CHOSE to keep a small unorganized team. No indie brand if able would turn that down. More cooks in the kitchen is fine to handle if they have a good lead. They don’t.

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​@@Nana-sc6mj oh tsk tsk tsk, the blind, the hater and the griefer. Which one are you? Now let me -counter- answer you Now here is YOUR first mistake: Donald was rich enough, keyword... *WAS* 2) The team recoded the original game, trying to fix things; trying to fit things. People began demanding more and more and more and more was thrown into the mix which the end result was a complete soup of errors and glitches and mistakes. So by default things had to be reworked. Since there was no fix to that hellhole, they decided to start from scratch again which is Evrima. And this time make sure things are working with tests before expanding. Each time a rework was done to try to fix things but its easy to make something new than to try to fix something that cant be fixed. 3) *Here is your second mistake* Criticisms *IS NOT COMPLAINS* Criticism helps, all you people do is btch. There is a difference. And no, you PAID for LEGACY not for EVRIMA. Evrima its just a BONUS ACCESS for testing this new product. When you buy the game, you DOWNLOAD LEGACY. And to ACCESS EVRIMA you have to do something else, which downloads a totally different game. Not use the same client. 4) *Here is your third mistake.* Evrima IS NOT a *finished product* but a BETA test *EXPERIMENTAL GAME* that *Can be accessed* through *legacy.* Their flagship. It is NOT being advertised as a finished product. It is being advertised as a *brand new game* that can be beta test accessed through Legacy. A "demo" if you will. 5) A game will NEVER be launched officially, until developers at least have 90% done of the product that works as it should. What do you want? Another ARK survival? that after 7 years of beta test (aka early access) it was launched officially with glitches and bugs? Is that what you want? I dont. I prefer to wait for something that works thank you. (Mind I remind you also that they lost one of their original pillars?) The Isle legacy was actually more of a finished product to be launched. It had a large roster of playable dinos and decent mechanics but it had a bunch of bugs and errors. Evrima IS a different game, as it doesnt use Legacy's client to run, but its own that you have to download apart from legacy. And I used "sequel" as a sample to show that evrima its an entirely new different game than legacy. So before you try to troll someone, read their context and make sure before you make a fool of yourself by trying to be a smartarse. And be productive or do nothing. And now I tell you: *you tried