The Jedi are Evil.

[@BrockLee3]

Obi-Wan Kenobi: "Only a Sith deals in absolutes." Me: "Umm...didn't YOU just use an 'absolute statement' right there?" [LIGHT-SABER POWERS ON] Me: "Nevermind!"

[@HumanAndroid18]

That's the whole point, use percieved duality to illuminate the truth that is non dual. It is realitive.

[@forsenfan69]

Absolute statements really only work if they exclude said statement about absolutes; case-in-point with what I just wrote.

[@BrockLee3]

@@forsenfan69 ...which makes it an impossibility; like a figurative oxymoron.

[@Infamous1892]

I'm angry at the Sequels cause I wanted to see Luke as a Jedi Master, Han as an Admiral of ships, and Leia as the Leader of the Republic. Instead we got the Copy, Paste, Mystery box.

[@TOAOM123]

I'm honestly just sick of "human" protagonists Where my 6 tentacled space babes, at?!

[@mfauz96]

YES!!!! Like come on! It would have been so much better to continue where the story was going!! That movie you just described would have been better than what we got lol

[@Infamous1892]

@@mfauz96 That's what George Lucas had set up.

[@Infamous1892]

@@TOAOM123 Ahsoka Tano

[@fattiger6957]

That's what should have happened and that's what fans spent 30 years hoping for. But Disney cheated everyone out of those movies. Now that Harrison Ford doesn't want anything to do with the series any more, Mark Hamil lost his love for SW and Carrie Fisher is no longer with us, we can never get those movies. Disney left SW with an giant ugly scar that will never go away.

[@thorshammer7883]

That's why the Expanded Universe is better then what the canon Disney made did.

[@ArinJager1]

*_Legends_* > "canon", any day (knights of the old republic, jedi outcast & jedi academy, force unleashed,...)

[@Romans10910Love]

Jesus saves

[@mysteriousstranger9182]

@M Yoshi that’s like one rough spot even the original trilogy had some problems

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

*Than thEn denotes timE thAn denotes a compArison Let’s see if you can fix yourself.

[@nikitalomakin3205]

@@ArinJager1 Nah force unleashed wasn't that good and I am glad it isn't canon

[@porcupineracer2]

"Darth Vader gave Princess Leia a chance to give up the plans lest Darth Vader blow up her home planet. She didn't give up the plans so he blew up her planet. That's not evil." Ha!

[@xero4971]

her planet already had senators plotting against the empire anyways, just removing nuisances basically and bail organa and his people that funded the rebel alliance and gave them info.

[@flavadave3943]

Lol yeah, I mean he basically had to destroy the ENTIRE PLANET. No evil there at all.

[@Xebelan]

Vader didn't blow the planet. That was Tarkin.

[@flavadave3943]

Xebelan lol yeah, that’s who I was referring to.

[@pentelegomenon1175]

It is honestly pretty evil, not too different from blowing up a city because there were some terrorists in it.

[@Charlie94781]

The Jedi forced Anakin to forget about his mother and the rest of the slaves on Tatooine who were under the thumb of the Hutt clans. The senate was also a cesspool of corruption with or without Sith intervention

[@1993biteME]

I mean the Jedi being evil definitely doesn't make the empire not evil.

[@kingkaijuboygodjira3116]

That made no sense. Did you even watch or even pay attention to what he said? The empire tried to restore the balance in the universe that the Jedi kept trying to ruin.

[@MrWhitman]

Yeah, I've seen these arguments before... It's one of those things that brings up half-truths and only partial information that supports the idea. Can I say that the Jedi are the good and pure individuals? No, not by a long shot. But it's the fact that there's no such thing as purely good and purely evil. Was the empire all bad? No, it wasn't. But there's no denying they were terrible at it. For example: You bring up the killing Alderan not being so bad, BUT they DID build the Death Star under Palpatine's orders and it was meant to be an instrument of fear to keep the planets under their control. It's easy to lay blame on Leia for the destruction of Alderan, but she wasn't truly responsible for it. A well known, inhabited planet was always going to be a target. There's even a chance it would have been the selected planet anyway. Alderan was just their way of killing two birds with one stone. Besides, after Leia said which planet the rebels were on (remember, he didn't know she was lying) Tarkin said, "You may fire when ready. You're far too trusting." The point of destroying Alderan was to demonstrate their power. Kind of a "don't let this happen to you" message to everyone. And to answer your question about Jabba the Hut gaining that power; he's not followed for his muscle. The guy knows his art of the trade, the art of the deal. He probably started with a few small time thugs and gave them some ideas on how they could get a big score. They discovered with his brains, they achieved what they could never do without him, so they followed him. Word spread that this guy could get you what you want with his planning. He probably even talked some of them out of trouble and that's what they wanted in a leader. Studying history, you'll find most leaders were NOT followed for their MUSCLE.

[@ИванСнежков-з9й]

I like to say that a half-truth is a whole lie.

[@heis147]

Yeah, and it wouldn't surprise me if Jabba got all the power from his family due to the Hutt families basically owning large parts of the galaxy.

[@arthurkinglor5420]

The Jedi and the rebels are still the worst pieces of shits in the Star Wars universe. However, the Sith are bad too but the Jedi and the rebels are worse. That's the morale of this story. My justification for this claim? The Jedi kidnap children, rub them of the right to be living beings and turn them into religious cultist soldiers. And the rebels have no clear justifiable goal or reasons to fight the Empire other than to serve the Jedi Order and gain the right to be shit stains on the galaxy. Just like their shit stain ally "Han FUCKING Solo"!

[@TheLyingFigure]

Youre wrong the hut's got thier forutune and power from thier pizza franchise.

[@heis147]

@@TheLyingFigure Of course, of course

[@BaoNguyen-bh2rk]

Let's forget Palpatine engineering a war to precipitate the fall of the Republic in the prequels.

[@ИванСнежков-з9й]

That's to ensure safety, stability and security. :facepalm:

[@fakethinksy101]

Yup, a war that ruined millions of people’s lives. But palpatine is definitely the good guy lol

[@nealheadley50]

Pure Hegallion dialect. Problem, cause, solution.

[@tutorialsnottrash7882]

And had Anakin murder children

[@tryp_da_ghost]

@@fakethinksy101 they lives where already bad you watch clone wars they was poor

[@GrandStyles]

Most of your video's are grade A quality, but this video shows a real lack of lore understanding considering the expanding universe. For example, Palpatine's a notable xenophobe that has a stranglehold on most of the known galaxy's markets to fund planet destroying projects like the death star. Many of your questions could be explained by seeing or reading products besides the 9 films. You're right however that the Jedi are essentially bad, but the sith are just as bad. Two moral extremes is really what's on dispay here.

[@thaddansen2989]

That's the point. The universe within the films as a sole source create these implications.

[@SPFLDAngler]

Shouldn't have to read 1,000 comic books and 200 books to understand something from NINE films...

[@GrandStyles]

@Devin Carter If you're going to do a deep explanation of why a film's actions are justified or not IN LORE, it would be foolish to ignore the expanded material. Also even in the films it's still evident both sides are wrong so *shrug*

[@craignickelson9633]

Yeah hes talking about something he doesn't understand seems like he's just making conclusions based on the 9 movies which is what just a causal fan would make. The jedi number like a few thousand protecting a galaxy of zillions. Hes talking out his ass

[@Fridaey13txhOktober]

Despite being circa 13.4% of the general US population...

[@micklestapler4]

Bro I love your content but saying that destroying a whole planet isn't evil............that's gonna be a nah from me dawg. Again I love your content that just really stood out to me.

[@sirstriped5233]

I know this whole thing was suppose to be a complaint about how George messed it all up. However this is what me and my friends love about SW. As you get older you realize there is more then just good vs bad. The reason most fans dont like the Disney movie isnt because of that. It's because they disregarded what the prequel and orig trilogy built Luke up to. Correcting the mistakes of the past. In the EU he combines the knowledge of both Jedi and Sith.

[@afhostie]

The guy at the bar was going to kill Luke. He pulled out a blaster as the other one said that next time he'd be dead. Seems like a perfectly reasonable response to cut off the guy's arm in order to prevent someone from dying.

[@sirsplintfastthepungent1373]

"Hi there, it seems your child has an extraordinary gift that could be strengthened to the point at which they become powerful enough to defend the very galaxy itself from the forces of evil. If you decide to let us teach them, it will come with a great cost, because Jedi must give up all family connections, or else those who seek to destroy the universe will come for their families first. If you choose not to allow us to train them, you will never again hear from us, and we will wish you all the best of luck and happiness." AntiLogic "Hello, Space Police? Yes, I'd like to report a LITERAL KIDNAPPING"

[@Surgicaldamage]

In "Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith," after Anakin kills Count Dooku, Obi-Wan does say to Anakin, "Good job," and later tells him that he has to stay and take the credit for defeating (killing) Dooku. Jedi are a bunch of assassins working with rebels.

[@sardonically-inclined7645]

Anakin: Master, I'm afraid of losing the ones I love. Yoda: Mourn them do not. Miss them do not. Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose. Anakin: That's not helpful.

[@eliasripley2357]

Is this meant seriously? First(in a list) - Empire destroyed Alderaan just because Leia gave up the abandoned Dantooine base which was too far away. Billions dead. On a whim, to demonstrate their superiority? That's OK, yeah? Emperor - with Vader, systematically exterminated the Jedi, children and all. Empire liquidated the Senate so that local governors would rule their systems by fear. "Fear of this battle station" - the "DEATH STAR" which again, committed mass genocide just because Leia's answer was too "remote"? I get heavy "I'm young n edgy and too cool for school vibes" from this. Palpatine wanting a safe secure society? Yeah, Hitler and all dictators proclaim that they want peace and security. Yeah. How does one accomplish that? By destroying any naysayers or political opponents and threatening dire "justice" should anyone cross the line. Plus he looks like Satan. I'll grant you the Jedi are hardly innocent of deceit etc, but despite your insistence, Palpatine didn't get into power because he was deemed the right guy for the job. He TOOK power over years of sneaky, clandestine machinations. Like, did you actually watch the prequels? They're all pretty much about how he twisted the system into becoming supreme super king of the universe. Even saying that once more the "Sith will rule the galaxy." I hope you're just kidding to get folk like me to take the bait and go on a rant, but if you truly believe that your idea is the "real" version of events, then I wouldn't purport to be this super duper genius who "gets" films better than anyone else, even the writers. Having enjoyed a couple of your videos for presenting novel ways of looking at classic films, I can only assume that you're taking the piss just for comments and traffic such as this. Maybe it's meant to be funny by being so wrong? But there's satire and there's just talking out of your arse to annoy people. Each to their own I suppose.. Four Dantooinian Dollars out of 10.

[@FirstTuber123]

Your first problem is Palp…was trying to become the only one in charge…as in a dictator. Usually, the “good and peace” that’s promised by said dictator never comes…unless it’s through force and for the dictator’s benefit. Etc etc

[@ArenaRat-xd8fu]

You do know a republic is not democracy right?

[@adebrysi]

it's still pretty evil to blow up a whole planet

[@John_Stephens43]

And kill a bunch of pre-teen children... And enslave/severely damaged several other planets (see Kashyyyk and Honoghr), enslaving the inhabitants.

[@mollof7893]

Yea, stupid too, they should have extrerminated the surface and strip mined the planet lmao

[@smonkedweed7414]

John Stephens Don’t forget the part where you start a Galaxy wide war killing billions while you control both sides all so you can take total power and remove everyone’s rights

[@campkira]

jedi is not evil but they just shit...

[@ArinJager1]

_nah, the planet was asking for it, just look at it!_

[@Hansel_Cintron]

That's... the point. I mean, the Jedi aren't necessarily evil, but they're extremely flawed and it's those flaws that get them killed in the end by one of their own. Hell, Luke doesn't even use any of the Jedi's methods to defeat Vader, rather he treats him with empathy, something that the Jedi lacked.

[@afhostie]

Luke wanted to join the rebels, not the empire. Remember how he reunites with his friend in the hanger gives him that "I told you so" that he would eventually join?

[@danilob5304]

yes the jedi are evil but that doesn't ruin star wars lol the jedi being an evil cult with government and military support makes the history and characters more interesting because they are all flawed. In the end the sith and jedis are not that diferente, its all about power

[@DiogoJ1]

They aren't though. The Sith are evil, the Jedi oppose them. The Jedi aren't the most competent people, but that doesn't make them evil.

[@DiogoJ1]

@TheCeilingFanCollectorHD No, but since true jedis are light sided, that makes them good by default. Not to mention that good or not good, they are the best defense against the dark side.

[@Aivottaja]

@@DiogoJ1 The Sith aren't evil. Instead they're more like unsustainable. The idea of an order for individuals who simultaneously practice the idea of survival of the fittest, deception and backstabbing is an oxymoron, if you ask me. The altruism needed for the order to survive is barely there. Sidious was both the greatest Sith ever in terms of achievements and abilities, but also the worst, because instead of Rule of Two, he wanted a Rule of One. There should be neither Jedi nor Sith. The original idea of mechanisms to balance the Force-users was superior to an order of robotic monks or boundlessly selfish, ruthless back-stabbers addicted to hate.

[@Aivottaja]

@@DiogoJ1 How did that defense against the dark side work out for them? There's way more Jedi who fell to the dark side instead of the other way around. There wouldn't probably even be a Vader or Tyranus without the Jedi Order.

[@DiogoJ1]

@@Aivottaja They are evil. Their code even promotes evil, by promoting freedom at all costs, no matter whom you must stomp on to achieve it. I disagree. Not to mention that there will always be Sith, because the dark side will always be a risk of anyone connected to the force, which requires the presence of Jedi to oppose them. The "robotic" monks are right though, and they have helped many people. The galaxy doesn't need any disgusting greys.

[@exoticcarfactsofficialchan7050]

"You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view." 😂😂😂🤣👍

[@TooManyMovies]

The worst thing about The Rise of Skywalker is that it is completely forgettable. I haven't seen the prequels in years but I remember the story. I saw TRoS a few weeks ago and all I can remember is jumping over waves and lots of Star Destroyers, I couldn't even tell you how Kylo died.

[@TaanStari]

"Idiots that got wiped out by a bunch of clone soldiers and robots." 1) There were aprox. 10k Jedi vs over a milion clones - over 100 clones per one Jedi 2) Clones were of Mandalorian heritage and with a proper mind conditioning and Jedi killing training. 3) Jedi are not some kind of supersoldiers. Many of them werent even fighters at all. They seem like a demigods only because basically all the main characters were in 0,1 top percentile. 4) Order 66 was an ambush. It wouldnt make any sense if Jedi didnt lose, given the circumstances. Also killing 2 billion civilians on Alderaan WAS pretty evil...

[@ffonzie]

“Tarkington only blew up billions of Alderaanians because Leia wouldn’t give the rebel base location…THAT’s not Eeevil” 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134]

It was Obi-Wan’s & the Jedi council’s fault of why they “Lost Anakin”. Anakin, Palpatine , the lost 20 , Dooku & many more during the clone wars era was right about the Jedi from the very beginning 👏🏾. Anakin was one of the most down to earth , loyal & coolest guys to be around yet they bullied him , pushed him around , belittled him & made him feel less than for his whole time in the Jedi order as a kid. Anakin got did dirty by the Jedi order & Yoda was a terrible grandmaster to. I was so happy When Order 66 toke place because finally that stupid order could get destroyed & remade a new into something much better in the future 🤣✅.

[@markb6295]

As I remember, Leia gave up the rebel base location & they blew up Alderan anyway. That IS eeeevil

[@Romans10910Love]

Hollywood loves to flip good and evil

[@minioli01]

Wow watching this video I can’t help but ask “did you even watch star wars dude”? This argument is pretty much : Jedi = evil because they defied and authoritarian gouvernement killing whoever opposes them and coming to power by inciting civil war. Some arguments make no sense, yoda and obi-wan training luke to kill his father since childhood? Really bro! Obi wan started training him on the falcon when he was like 19 years old and Luke asked for this.

[@ArinJager1]

nah, he's just sayin' that the jedi are as shitty as the empire/sith, that they do some questionable stuff (abducting children, brainwashing them into their fanatical ideology, etc.)... it's just like with the assassin's vs templars, they're both shit in their own respect... life's not black and white, people aren't perfect and make mistakes... _deal with it, accordingly as you see fit_

[@craignickelson9633]

I don't think this guy really knows star wars outside the 9 movies he's talking out his ass.

[@Fridaey13txhOktober]

Jedis fought for a "democratic" government that opposed anyone in the galaxy leaving them.

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

I dont this guy watched Star Wars. I think he watched KZbin videos.

[@davidferguson8478]

The reason why obi-wan and yoda never told luke about Darth Vader being his father is because they where worried that he might turn to the dark side as well

[@Bruce_K]

The thugs threatened Luke in the bar and they were wanted criminals with death sentences. Obi-Wan had every right to cut off the guy’s arm. How is that wrong? If someone comes up to you in a bar and says “my friend doesn’t like you and I don’t like you either,” a wise person would be ready to pull a gun or knife or a broken bottle and take out the scumbag. All Luke said was “I’m sorry (you all don’t like me)” and “I’ll be careful” and the guy said “you’ll be dead.” A direct threat of violence. He deserved to lose an arm and a lot more. If you don’t want to lose an arm, keep your mouth shut and don’t touch a stranger in a bar and act hostile or threatening to some farm boy sitting at a bar quietly minding his own business and not even looking at you. Obi-Wan tried to defuse the situation and said “this little one isn’t worth the effort. Here, let me get you something (a drink).” I liked your theory about Fight Club and think it’s absolutely true, but this is complete nonsense and ignores the whole context of the situation. Also Anakin WAS evil and willing to massacre innocent people for no reason out of rage. His opinions about the Jedi are irrelevant like Hitler’s opinions about British imperialism. His dialogue with Padme is cringe-worthy talking about how he would just impose his will by force like a dictator.

[@marcespinoza6068]

Had this theory for the longest time, the Jedi council (especially Mace Windu, he was a real dick to Anakin) are fully to blame for Anakin becoming Darth Vader.

[@2HME]

I'm late to your party here, but here's my take. I haven't seen the new movies, they pissed me off when they said all the books and the original canon mean nothing. You see over the years I've read 80+ star wars books and it took some time and they mean alot to me. Anyways, I find what you touch on here to be very interesting. In the books Han marries Lea and they have 3 kids. Jacen and Jaina, twins, and Anakin. Why I bring this up is as they become adults Jacen, who ends up becoming a Sith Lord called Darth Caedus, has a very interesting story arc. He brings out my favorite thing about star wars. Right and wrong is all a point of view. his transformation is slow, it takes years, and one can completely understand it, if you go step by step with him through it. He doesn't just one day decide to be a Sith, he ends up feeling he has no other choice to make things right. I read these throughout my 20's, I'm almost 50 now, and I remember thinking back then, WOW, it was the first time I really saw both sides to a story, and I even agreed with him on many points and thought, would I have gone the same route if in that position? Maybe. I realize they somewhat tried this approach in the prequels with Anakin Skywalker, but as it goes with movies, they just don't have the time to really flesh out the story like it can be done in a book. So I have thought who was right and wrong? Who were the bad guys and good guys? it's not always clear. Anyways, it's funny I got all my SW books at half price books, which is a second hand book store, and I still have them. I just can't seem to let them go. The stories are amazing. Writing this makes me want to go read them all over again...

[@NostalgicNickyNYC]

Putting in that sunnofabitch Arnold line over Vader was fucking hilarious 😂🤣🤣🤣

[@thehippie3610]

And previously, in the books, he did so to defend against a war that came from another galaxy.

[@ArinJager1]

aurek (rishi maze) or besh (firefist)? [not everyone knows that there are other galaxies in SW, besides THE Galaxy... Legends are so much better and more than canon]

[@GangstaStan010]

I know I'm late to the party but thank you! I thought I was the only one who noticed some of the hypocrisy coming from the Jedi. And the child soldier thing.

[@michelled.4874]

Yup...

[@Schoolgirl325]

ou can tell that Lucas was always too much of a Jedi sympathizer. Yeah, Anakin/Darth Vader and the rest of the Empire needed to be punished and stopped for their crimes, but the *ways* in which Obi-Wan and Yoda went about it by recruiting Anakin’s son to do it for them were dangerous, deceitful, manipulative, stalkerish, and unfair to Luke. Yeah, they *say* all the shitty means they are using to recruit train Luke to defeat his father and the Empire are “necessary” for “the greater good,” but Anakin/Vader, Tarkin, and the Emperor all use the *same* defense for using cruel, deceitful, manipulative, and oppressive, and unfair means to try to more easily gain personal freedom, justice, peace, and order for themselves/the Empire from enemies, too. They just happen to be more extreme in their problematic “ends justify the means” methods than the members of the Empire/Sith. Not to mention, the Sith and Empire members are physically more scary looking than the old Jedi/Republic members, and the story is told from two old Jedi Order members biased perspectives. Moreover, the fact that Anakin’s downfall is self-admittedly partially a byproduct of Obi-WAN’s and Yoda’s failures as teachers and mentors implies that their intentions to use Luke to defeat him aren’t truly as selfless as they’d like to believe. They didn’t deserve mass murder, but SW could be so much more fun canonically, if the narrative could just frame both the Jedi/Republic and Sith/Empire as deeply fucked up extremist governments/institutions that need to reform to find a healthy middle ground. If you ignore the sequels, and accept Legends as canon for Luke’s new Order instead, you can come to the conclusion that is what happened after the OT movies. To be fair, I do think that Lucas wanted to tell the story that both sides were flawed, but also kind of chickened out because he was more interested in writing for children audiences. Unfortunately, Disney took over after that, which is why they keep going with the Jedi Way=Good and Sith=Bad narrative, and keeps the conflict between their toxic extremes alive in both organizations in canon.

[@dranyamarel143]

Palpatine was the one who started the war in the first place via Count Dooku and Grievous. Then he brought order to the galaxy. He’s still evil.

[@tomh1767]

Palpatine did fabricate a war to seize power and eliminate his only opposition, that seems kinda evil

[@MCBart78]

In the expanded universe where all the wonderful books were set, Palpatine knew of a threat that the Jedi were a weakness to. The Yhuzhon Vong. The Thrawn trilogy by Timothy Zahn begins to set it up. The books that went on after episode 6 were all very good, much better than these movies they put out for cash instead of a story.

[@michelled.4874]

Looks like I might have to read the Thrawn trilogy in addition to Outbound flight...

[@Flat_top_king12]

Lmao what blowing up an entire innocent planet isnt evil because someone stole plans to one of their weapons and refused to give them over? Thats stupid. On top of that, the jedi order being flawed was the entire point of the prequel trilogy and what caused them to fall. Another thing, Jedi serve the force, not their own vision of good.

[@ArinJager1]

you see, it's all relative & subjective, all about the perspective/angle... The empire think they're doing the good thing, the jedi think they're doing the right thing... the joke is: neither of them is! Force is just a thing, like gravity or electricity or whatever, it just... is (exists)... the light/dark stuff is just some stupid-ass, made up ideological bullshit... force is, in fact, neutral... Perfectly balanced, as all things should be... The jedi (and sith) create disharmony by just existing, it's really simple as that... _And that's why I'm not a jedi, or a sith, I'm just a guy with a lightsaber_

[@Fridaey13txhOktober]

Tarkins: "We will blow up your home planet if you don't agree to give us back our plans." Princess Leia: "Well, I don't!" **Boom* * Princess Leia: "Oh noes! My planet! My parents, siblings, husband and child!"

[@ArenaRat-xd8fu]

Blowing a death star with civilian contractors is ok too though right

[@ArenaRat-xd8fu]

@@Fridaey13txhOktoberdont steal and planets wont be blown up

[@SneakyAndBeaky]

People get so heated over this , its fun having discussions like this and seeing other peoples interpretation.

[@DanieleMulas-up7np]

This is not a fun discussion. This is nitpicking the shit out of something just to be a contrarian hipster. All of AntiLogic's dumbass points were mostly addressed, for example, in the old Expanded Universe.

[@icyhott8709]

You cant make fun of nerds existence and expect them not to nerd rage. I mean it's not like they get attention from women, let them have their make believe world

[@DanieleMulas-up7np]

@@icyhott8709 Watch out, we have a Ghetto Fedora Gangsta over here reminding us who's the real keyboard OG....

[@icyhott8709]

@@DanieleMulas-up7np whoa, dont get your trigger finger on your light saber on me buddy, I come in peace lmao

[@DanieleMulas-up7np]

@@icyhott8709 Right lol

[@Aivottaja]

I've thought for a long time that Sidious was persuasive precisely because he was mostly talking the truth about the Jedi Order. They were complacent, dogmatic and hypocritical.

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

00:37-Since no one realized this, its the reason Stars Wars was dying!

[@austinshields5147]

I love how you completely ignore the fact that palpatine Was in charge of both sides of the war and inflicted maximum casualties to ensure the Clones were more quickly replicated and had small oversights like the chip

[@bensonabernathy4664]

4:13 - 4:21 I'm not sure, but they sure wouldn't blow up the country I was from. Maybe torture me, but not blow up the ocuntry I was from and turn that into a wasteland, like how Trakin blew up that other planet.

[@robby7499]

Taking the MatPat approach.

[@DanieleMulas-up7np]

Being a contrarian hipster chickenshit ?

[@robby7499]

@@DanieleMulas-up7np Just the fact that MatPat likes to reinterpret "good characters" as being evil. Mario; Phoenix Wright; Remy from Ratatouille, etc.

[@edrick106]

@@robby7499 Remy makes sense tho

[@MrJeffrey938]

Would the Jedi destroy a planet because someone stole their secrets? Should the galaxy be owned by one Sith Lord, or does absolute power corrupt absolutely? I'm saying that the Jedi's ends justify their imperfect means. Fascism is about as bad as it gets. Lucas making a good sounding argument in favor of the Sith is just realistic story telling; every successful monster has a convincing rationale.

[@ArenaRat-xd8fu]

You forget the republic isnt a democracy

[@AlexWeberg]

Anakin being ordered to kill a bunch of kids in episode 3 is pretty evil.

[@brucewaite3733]

I guess Anakin was born in Texas

[@kevinputry5655]

Not to mention he entirely wiped out a whole village of Sand People. And while revenge was clearly his motive, revenge is evil. Two wrongs don't make a right as they say and thus I believe it was at that point that Anakin began his path down the dark side.

[@cmath4871]

The Empire actually did alot of evil.... The new star wars is dead. I'm still open to old star wars things being valid. In that material they discuss how xenophobic and brutal the empire was. They wiped out entire races, worked some races to death and split up families. The individual governor's were brutal and corrupt. Vader himself butchered innocents. It was crazy

[@ArinJager1]

pales in comparison to what the infinite/rakatan empire did... just as the death star pales in comparison to the star forge... there's always someone bigger and badder (I/RE predates the so called "empire" you know from the movies)... Why settle for a lesser evil? ;)

[@Fridaey13txhOktober]

Tarkins: "We will blow up your home planet if you don't agree to give us back our plans." Princess Leia: "Well, I don't!" **Boom* * Princess Leia: "My planet! My parents, siblings, husband and child! That suck, can I go to my cell now?" Tarkins: "Okay."

[@phoqueme]

Bro it's amazing how we can make extremely different perspectives with no context, but then again... the context we do get from the movie is precisely what makes up our general perspective of the story... and this story is told from the Jedi's perspective... fuck, what is real? lol good video man

[@JuryRigGarage]

At 3:11 bruh the empire is bad because they literally enslave everyone and abuse their citizens. Palpatine (being the unkown Sith lord in the prequels) instigated the genocide of the Dathomir, the Jedi and many others. At 4:23 the Jedi were mad at Palpatine for starting a galactic war, playing both sides to subvert the Jedi order and take control of the galaxy for purely evil reasons. They were aware of a Sith lord and new the clone wars were fabricated by the Sith, they just didn't know who it was until the end of episode 3. The galaxy was not about to be at peace, it was a manufactured war that was intentionally ending and controlled by 1 person. At 4:37 Luke wanted to join the flight school because it was the only opportunity he would have to leave Tatooine, lots of people joined and became rebels. Many storm troopers were not aware of the empires evil intentions, they used propaganda and fear to keep them in line. At 6:29 Anakin was no more and irredeemable to Obi and Yoda, it was like Vader wasn't Luke's father. This is where the story comes into play. Luke sees the good in Vader and is able to flip him, redeeming Anakin. All of this does not take away the fact the Jedi were huge hypocrites. Star wars is all about perspective. George definitely didn't ruin the series, the prequels were badly made but the story was great and set the foundation for what makes Star Wars great. The main episodes do a good job of establishing the story but I think you really need to watch the clone wars and rebels to fully understand the story (these shows really show the direction Lucas and Filoni wanted to take the series).

[@chriskramer2351]

That "son of a bitch" cut scene made me laugh so hard I started crying!!!! Lmfao!!!! Great video.

[@stvbrsn]

“…it’s time we start???” Oh, don’t worry. People have been putting the blame on Lucas pretty hard since 1999.

[@tutorialsnottrash7882]

"What did Palpatine do that was evil?" Lol wut this video is ignoring a lot of basic Star Wars lore that's been established for years.

[@darthfader3122]

Okay, how much is Disney paying you?

[@kronickraig5059]

Every time I think about subscribing to Anti-Logic he goes and says something completely off-base like "Blowing up billions of people isnt evil. He gave her a chance" like do you even listen to yourself?

[@susanafangirl1595]

Exactly. Blowing up billions of people like that is literally genocide. How can you say genocide isn't evil? The UN has said it is. In fact, every person with a decently-formed conscience shouldn't even have to wait for any institution on Earth to tell them it is wrong. People with decently formed-consciences already know genocide is intrinsically wrong.

[@dillonyoung5502]

3 videos? It's not even close to christmas, thank you! Love your interesting perspectives on films

[@brokenrooster4338]

JarJar was supposed to be a bad guy but the fanbase ruined it.

[@chrono2959]

The prequels were to show what the Jedi had become not what they initially were

[@Unit-8369]

It would be interesting to see a storyline where luke actually joins the empire and eventually meets darth Vader.

[@01mattdavenport]

If you're interested in the idea that the Jedi are evil, read the book "Plagueis". It takes you from when Darth Plagueis was an apprentice to his master (Darth Tenebrous) all the way to when Darth Sidious kills Plagueis, which takes place between Episode 1 and 2. It fills in SOOOO MANY MISSING PIECES in the series, gives amazing back story and provides perspective on why the Sith act as they do. It's filled with "Sith Thinking" that gives extremely well thought out reasons for why they act as they do, and it's very similar to what Mr Antilogic gives us here. It's one of my favorite books and makes the first 6 movies MUCH better.

[@acepapi995]

This is what makes George’s Star Wars magnificent because there is no good and evil. It shows that perspective is key and balance will always find its way in nature.

[@DiogoJ1]

Any balance that rejects the light isn't true balance. The Light is good, and thus it should be the more dominant force.

[@inyalgaico1563]

Anti logic do you read legends? just curious cause in that alot of this stuff explained and given a highlight the jedi being "evil" notion is endorsed but again its more complex Also you crazy highkey if you think murdering a planet of billions isnt evil. Considering the entire planet is pro empire and has maximum 1k rebels in it which seems very unlikley from the material given The empire and (most) siths evil are honest and proactive The jedis evil is hypocritical and self delusional its why yoda saw order 66 and let it happen and why the jedi had to be destroyed it was a major plot point in legends post episode 6 content as luke had to remake the order away from the cultist dogmatic view of previous jedi orders

[@willvee1282]

I’ve always thought that both were evil, one was just pissed that the other had a better publicist.

[@TeatroGrotesco]

Yeah, leaving Schmee to be a slave always bugged me too.

[@pumpkinsunshine9696]

I loved the video- although you missed an opprotuintiy to end your theory with one last, 'The' Jedi are evil!' lolz, I would've loved that. But you bring up the truth friend. 'tis hard to admit that the Jedi took a wrong turn and served themselves rather than the Force. :)

[@geek8555]

It's not that the Jedi were evil, rather they weren't perfect. They had good intentions, but were arrogant, hypocritical and that led to their downfall. That was the point.

[@Theraxinner47]

He uploaded 3 videos already

[@TeensierPython]

Nailed it. Obi Wan was a shit character. Brought Luke to the Death Star. Fought poorly. Died. The end.

[@kevinputry5655]

The old man may have been rusty but he actually let Vader kill him. That was his plan all along.

[@darthsilversith667]

Finally! I’ve been saying this for years!

[@DanieleMulas-up7np]

Guess you're dumb then

[@31TV_TX]

My 2nd video of yours and I am now subbed. Great content. I strive to be as good at my videos as what you're doing. Keep it up bud

[@CManSully]

May I request a Black Mirror explained video :)

[@notcommon535]

Maybe the moral ambiguities between the Jedi and sith are what he was going for

[@jonychavo8162]

3 for 1 deal? Great!!

[@BrandonPerezOne]

This was really hard to watch. Do you even know the lore of these stories?

[@MindKontrolUltimateLevel3]

You could be a great lawyer

[@shotgunraptor8534]

palpatines like trump. he talks a big game, he lies about everything, and he munipulates everyone

[@AnonymousAnonposter]

Wow. Sick high iq pop culture fanboy speaking the true!

[@phoqueme]

"What if you stole the nuclear launch codes and they caught you? What do you think they would do?" Well not blow up a fucking plant i think LMAO but i see where you're coming from though

[@philipandrelogonzales2569]

Sometimes I wonder if the Jedi are more evil than the sith

[@michaelverdon7252]

They are tbh

[@joenathan8059]

I don't know what your talking about. Palpatine was a horrible emperor

[@robby7499]

In the Legends, he killed his family; killed his Sith Master; committed genocides and mass murders; took advantage of Anakin's desperation for his wife, etc. He is a bad dude.

[@darthsilversith667]

What are you talking about? Emperor Palpatine brought order, peace and prosperity to the galaxy! He’s a hero!

[@robby7499]

@@darthsilversith667 #EmperorPalpatineDidNothingWrong

[@LpCruz11937]

that shit was flawless on the Vader/stormtrooper dialog lol

[@banespeace9079]

This videos a miss for me 😅 just read the books is all I can tell you neither side is good/evil in my opinion both kinda want the same thing in a way just different ways of achieving it

[@blimy01maynard30]

The books aren't canon and they are irrelevant to the movies. If you have to say "read the books" then the story has failed.

[@iiDTC]

Anakin: From my point of view the Jedi are Evil! A few other people: OUR

[@santaslayer3456]

I thiught it said the terminator timeline makes perfect sense ???

[@kobe3941]

What did palpatine do ummmm sir he placed chips in clones to kill off all of the Jedi and he brainwashed anakin

[@kobe3941]

He’s also put death attempts out on padme multiple times

[@00Boogie]

I'm halfway through and the points are low effort bait tier. There is an argument to be made that the Jedi became too intertwined with the Republic government and the luxurious core worlds, but that's an argument they were soft and complacent not they were evil. I recall there being a plotpoint in the prequels of diminished connection to the Force among the Jedi masters, and considering connection to the Force is connection to effectively divine will... Small wonder they became lost and in the absence of revelation they started filling the gaps with nonsense. If the taking small children thing is pointed out, an affinity to the Force means awareness of connection to all things. Without training and discipline, it's easy to imagine how a child could be corrupted by being able to subtly manipulate and coerce those around them as they unconsciously exploit their spiritual connection. There has to be a healthier way of going about it, but there was a reasoning behind the kid grabbing.

[@JohnnyWorld]

Tarkin didnt give her a chance. She gave him the location of the rebel base and he blew up Aldoran anyway

[@aram.v]

Training Luke to kill Vader? I remember yoda and obiwan saying “confront” and “face” Vader , but not kill Vader. Which is different “from a certain point of view” ☺️

[@dookieshoes4127]

DAAAAAAMN BRO!! You’re right. What an eye opener

[@uphillracer]

Star Wars has always been a children’s story and I have always been baffled by the fact that it has been taken so seriously.

[@darlalathan6143]

Perhaps it shouldn't have been a children's story, lol! Rebels fighting Space Nazis?!

[@michelled.4874]

@@darlalathan6143 The rebels are the bad guys. And the empire are protecting its citizens by taking out those violent rebels who want to overthrow a government delocractically elected through the democratic will of the majority and the will of the people. So don't compare the empire with adolph because that's sheer stupidity and insanity.

[@npc1172]

I always thought that the point of the prequels is that the Jedi were massively flawed. They were power hungry and stagnant in their old ways that obviously didn’t work because the sith was able to overpower an entire order with just 2 Sith Lords and a few sith assassins.

[@DiogoJ1]

They weren't power hungry, and stagnancy doesn't make you evil. Not to mention that the Sith have been preparing their downfall for centuries. So, everything that went wrong in the prequels, were the doing of the Sith to begin with.

[@michelled.4874]

@@DiogoJ1 Yes, the Jedi cult members were power hungry. They tried to take over the government. They tried to assasinate a democratically elected leader and overthrow a democratically elected government in the name of democracy. LOL. Some fucking democracy right there, Jedi cult. LOL. The Jedi are so full of hypocrisy and phoniness it's not even funny.

[@alanhembra2565]

Please use your vast skills on “Battlefield: Los Angeles”.

[@ericm3327]

If you honestly think that the sequels aren’t bad and the OT are, you should probably give up reviewing films. No malice toward you personally, maybe you should just do something else. BTW The Jedi being complacent and open to corruption is part and parcel of the entire story, this isn’t a revelation, it’s built into George’s story. Your critique is taking some huge logical leaps saying things like they kidnapped the kids and mind tricked people. This isn’t logic this is just reaching.

[@gorespentwell4489]

Finally a new upload thx bro rlly enjoy ur content

[@BillySoundFarm]

Bro, blowing up alderaan, murdering a whole planet, definitely evil. Are you really trying to say that Leia not giving them the information they want justifies murdering a whole planet?

[@whatisantilogic138]

I think it's about scale. Our politicians drop bombs on towns and cities all the time. In the SW universe there are thousands of planets, so 1 planet is like 1 city. I'm not saying it's not bad for the empire to do it, I'm just saying that it's not evil because they didn't just do it unprovoked. If you steal nuclear codes or something like that, and they threaten to blow up your hometown if you don't give them back, then it's kinda your fault for trying to call their bluff.

[@Neil_mccauley365]

Wait. Sidious ordered the murder of younglings. Shall I go on?

[@ArenaRat-xd8fu]

Only presenting one side is disingenuous and unethical in terms of journalism

[@CupOchaGG]

This guy must be trolling!

[@robar1138]

I really don't remember the senate voting to become an empire with a dictator. At least the Romans when they voted for a dictator he had a one year limit.

[@Fridaey13txhOktober]

Cuz the Senate is done goofed.

[@ArenaRat-xd8fu]

Remember when the senate killed caesar and complete chaos ensued

[@californiadragyn]

🤯 A.L. does it again - the Jedi really do sound evil from the way you described them.. sure, the Empire isn’t exactly kind but at least, they’re honest about their intentions

[@MEEZLEMONSTER]

But seriously, a lot of your points (especially about the whole Jedi Academy operation) I've been trying to figure out for years.

[@PUPIMUMIP]

I agree! salutes from Tatoine!