The John Muir Trail (According To Chris) Full Length Film 4K

[@queenanne94101]

Phenomenal video. So unique. So enjoyable. Completely inspirational. Thanks for sharing! 🌿🍂🌲🐿🦟🐝🦅🦋⛰🗺⛺️

[@michaelrogge1367]

I did 2007 and 2014 hikes North to South 19 days both times. I love your video….great memories !

[@Greenman247]

Freakin' sweet video, Chris! My girlfriend and I hiked the JMT in the summer of '15, and this brought back some amazing memories. Thank you for letting all of us tag along on your awesome journey!

[@michaelb1761]

Nice. Glad you had a good time. There are so many beautiful places in the Sierra. I did the JMT in 2015 then went back last year for a loop of my own design that started on the High Sierra Trail. I can't get enough of the Sierra. Planning on a 280 mile hike for 2017 that will hit most of the places I walked right by when doing the JMT in 2015. Keep it up and teach - actually let - your kids love nature and hiking.

[@emunchlove3360]

That was so awesome! Thanks! I can't get enough and it put butterflies in my stomach to think that in 226 days, I will begin my Journey on the JMT!! EEK!!

[@kerriskaraoke]

Absolutely fantastic. You helped me accomplish a goal, virtually. Thank you!

[@SamwiseOutdoors]

So I started chucking at the horse talk bit, but full-on lost it at the gobbling chips clip. This was awesome, thank you for sharing!

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Thanks! Crazy coincidence, I actually saw your pocket cocktails video a while back and thought it was hilarious! I even showed my wife. Glad I didn’t buy that stuff. ;)

[@SamwiseOutdoors]

@@OutmersiveFilms Thank you so much! That was kind of the first time I'd made a video and actually felt not incredibly embarrassed by it.

[@gregr501]

What an amazing trip, thanks for taking me along.

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Yep is was awesome!! I was blessed to have the opportunity to go. :)

[@bobdeitrick7738]

You are such a great visual storyteller. It was nice to be on the journey with you!

[@franciscogarza8273]

Great adventure and video! I did it NOBO in 2019, 8/28-9/12 from Horseshoe Meadows summit ting Whitney at 6pm on day #2. Unforgettable adventure for sure. Congratulations!

[@kevinhunt2135]

Thanks for this Chris. Brought back a lot of really great memories.

[@lawrencelizewski9625]

So well done. Thank you for the love and time you put into this. Best to you and your family.

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Thanks Lawrence!

[@delete411]

Wow and an amazing journey and has inspired me to get out and enjoy life once again. TY for taking me along...

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Mickey B Anytime! I’ve got more projects underway so stay tuned. :)

[@heyjude4real]

After doing Mount Whitney for the first time last year I really enjoyed watching this video, gave me good vibes. I would love to do something like this but who the hell am I kidding, I picked up the love of hiking in my later years and my knee is starting to revolt. I hope you and your beautiful kids have a great time in the future hiking thru Forrester pass.

[@skylarl5545]

Since everyone else is commenting on the footage, etc... i'd just like to make a comment about the music. It was beautiful and perfectly complimented the scenery. I loved it

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Thanks Skylar! I'm guessing I spent a good 150+ hours tracking and mixing the soundtrack in my spare bedroom. Glad to hear it's being noticed. :) I've actually been working on the soundtrack for my next project. This time in Colorado with a well known individual in the outdoor industry. :)

[@nickifenderson4736]

i'm so impressed by this - my husband and i hiked onion valley to whitney portal 10 years ago. forester pass killed us. i don't know how you got from forester to guitar lake in one day. and to get from the lake to the portal in one day - you guys were slaying it. we collapsed at trail camp and i was in bed by 6 pm. mad props! love this video - thanks for bringing it all back. man do i miss the sierras!

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Nicki Fenderson Thanks Nikki! Yep Forester is no joke! Beautiful though huh?

[@nickifenderson4736]

stunning! we're from the east coast and live at like 700 ft above sea level, so it was BRUTAL. the JMT is on my bucket list. what did you use to film the video? we're heading to iceland later this year and i'm in search of a backup camera for stills and video. thanks again for the memories!

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Nicki Fenderson I used a little GoPro hero 4 Black edition, and a Sony rx100m4. Super nice and portable. Though I'm considering upgrading to the Sony A7r2 after chatting with the Muir Project guys.

[@sdcaeastcountyfamily]

thank you for sharing. I thoroughly enjoyed that.

[@OutmersiveFilms]

sdcaeastcountyfamily Glad ya liked it! :)

[@larrykaminski4391]

Excellent video, graphics, video and info. Tough solo walk...looking fwd to my trip !

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Larry Kaminski Thanks! You're gunna LOVE it! And if you're anything like me, you'll miss it afterward!

[@dbyrge]

Really awesome video! Thanks for taking me along with you!

[@mikepilarski5480]

I spend more time than I would like to admit watching hiking videos on KZbin and I don't comment on any of them, I just enjoy watching them particularly during the winter when I cannot be on the trail, but this video right here was so well done I felt it was time to comment because you deserve it. Seriously, excellent video and congratulations on your completion of the JMT and I appreciate you taking the time to create this and share with all of us. I leave for the South Lake loop over Bishop and Muir pass on Wednesday next week and I can't wait!

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Thanks Mike! Have fun on your trip! Bishop and Muir should be exciting this time of year with all the snow so be safe.

[@mikepilarski5480]

hamsterfish I'm scared, lol

[@katesness]

I loved your film!!! the graphics were great ...thanks so much for sharing. I did the trail in 2015 and it's so nice to see how you labeled all the peaks and passes for a very nice trip down memory lane. Namaste! kate

[@NWTrailBum]

Outstanding work Chris.

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Grunt in a Hammock Thanks man!

[@gregskolozdra]

Excellent video! Thanks for sharing!

[@FollowBigfoot]

WOW CHRIS! Fantastic job capturing your hike and thank you so much for sharing it with us. Amazing job editing!!! BF

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Thanks dude! It was awesome hiking with ya in Florida.

[@MrDrDemento]

Absolutely outstanding video. And I've seen them all. Great job Chris!

[@OutmersiveFilms]

MrDrDemento Thanks dude!

[@jasonadams472]

what an epic adventure brother I so want to do what you did. also you did an a amazing job on filming and editing I am so impressed keep up the good work and happy trails.

[@ericschmid657]

Chris, thank you for putting all that together. Incredible video!

[@jayjackson4644]

Great video. Just what I needed to fill my hiking fix at the start of winter. It was great to see those places again. Hiked the JMT in 14' and am ready to go back again. The toughest part for me, as well, was missing the family.

[@ReaganScottPhoto]

Awesome video! I've watched it several times. I've never seen someone with editing experience hike the JMT, so this is a nice change. Honestly, this is probably the best account of the trail that I've yet found. Most people are like, "this is my experience," and nothing else. You actually put trail info and landmarks and stuff, and it's much more informative that way. Goodonya!

[@Arthur-Silva]

Excellent video! I'm glad it popped up in my KZbin suggestions.

[@jamesmcanally7630]

Amazing editing...a lot of value added. Great video and narration. Can’t wait till I get my turn to do this beautiful trail.

[@hodgdog]

I must have passed you as I headed north from Rae Lakes on Sept. 8th! I can't wait to do the entire JMT, videos like yours inspire me to do it earlier than later. Thank you for sharing it with us all

[@OutmersiveFilms]

hodgdog Heya! Hard to tell from your pic, but you kind of look familiar. Did we chat just north of Mather?

[@hodgdog]

I was just doing a East-West trip from Onion Valley to Road's End, via Rae Lakes. We may have spoken at the Wood Creek Bridge, most hikers remember my giant straw hat (not pictured).

[@johnsteitz7267]

That was really well done. Thanks for sharing!

[@ThisWitchHikes]

This is one of the best videos on here for the JMT! Thanks

[@quakingleaf]

I finally watched the whole thing, and was completely captivated. I love his video and I can't wait to hike the JMT someday. Thank you!

[@OutmersiveFilms]

+Doug Johnson glad ya liked it! I've got new stuff in the works if you're interested: vimeo.com/chrisisawesome

[@quakingleaf]

Yes- I can't wait!

[@MattMurray66]

Thanks Chris, I really enjoyed your video! Your hike seemed very similar to mine in 2014. About the same time of year and very similar itinerary. I didn't get to summit Mt Whitney though. I had a storm on the last night too, but it was a big long thunderstorm that lasted well into the next day. The hike up to, and over Trail Crest was treacherous enough, so I decided to play it safe and continue down to the Portal instead of risking my life heading to the summit. A very difficult decision, but "gethomeitis" got the better of me and I decided not to wait it out and take an extra day to summit. Glad you made it! Cheers!

[@jp_sabo8460]

Well it's been said a thousand times already I'm sure, but that was fabulous in every sense of the word. Great editing & design. Great story telling - I take my hat off to you Chris :) Looks like a great hike as well. Certainly on my list!

[@OutmersiveFilms]

JP_SABO Thanks! :)

[@johnbarber6189]

So Cool! Hamsterfish The the JMT is on my bucket list. Thanks for the great video!

[@heliscat]

I want to do this hike! Thank you SO much for sharing!

[@walkingnowhere2330]

Awesome video man, looking forward to getting off the FT and checking your entire library out at home on my monitor

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Thanks! Hope your back is feeling better.

[@fjfichman]

Chris is Awesome...videography, stills, music, post production, editing. Damn, this vid was a professional as it gets. My congrats. I hope you do more. As a 40+ year survivor from network TV in Hollyweird I know what's good and what isn't. This video was GREAT. Just top notch production value. A lot of work to shoot and edit and it shows. Congrats.

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Thanks so much Frederick! I learned a lot of lessons from this for sure. I've got another trip planned in April where I'll be using all new camera gear. So I expect that to be a step up as far as quality. :)

[@fjfichman]

Looking forward, maybe with that video you could list the new year...tnx

[@joseperez-cl8jk]

Ya a great epic time on the JMP THANK YOU Just may see you on the trail and I will say thank you for showing me the way. JoP

[@ThisWayfaringLife]

Your videos are awesome and I love the music you produce! I have done most of the JMT and it is so fun to relive it through your lens. I’m looking forward to future productions!

[@Pam-dr8nc]

Loved your video! Bringing back the memories👍🏼

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Pam Pinder Thanks Pam!

[@Ureyeuh]

That section where you placed the footage your kids in the sky over the mountains was a fantastic edit.

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Uriah Graves Thanks! That part was kind of a big deal to me. My kids loved it too!

[@Midlifehikersclub]

Awesome perspective and great video! I am headed out in August 2017 and really looking forward to it. Looks like you had roughly the same planned camps as me, so I was glad to see some of your footage out there! Thanks so much for sharing your adventure with us!

[@RoughingItWithRuth]

Wow, fantastic video! I was a bit intimidated by the length of the video at first, but you kept the audience captivated from start to finish! Awesome!

[@woodwaif40]

I have to say...the editing and quality of this film is very impressive. But above all, I am impressed with your ability to hike this trail solo! the planning before the trip teaches us all how to succeed on a trail like the JMT!

[@JROutdoors]

Nice video Chris. I think I was finishing up my NoBo hike just as you were starting yours. Small world.

[@lbdonp]

Applause, applause, applause, applause.. Your creative skills on this video and the final outcome was just amazing. I thoroughly enjoyed watching it. I only hope one day to have videos this freaking good. Subbed and liked!

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Don P Thanks so much Don! I'm still learning this video stuff so I think I'll get better with each project. :)

[@j.g7377]

That was fantastic!! Thank you for sharing, I can only imagine the work it took.

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Thanks! Yep this was my first film effort . It took foooorever to make this since I had no real editing experience at the time.

[@Deanna52ish]

Quality video. Very creative way to feature JMT. Thank you.

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Thanks so much Deanna! This is really the project that started me down the film making path and changed my life in so many ways. There’s a pretty big announcement coming soon, so if you’re interested you can follow Outmersive films on social media. It should be announced within 2 weeks at latest.

[@lenkerr7485]

Great video.... I am surprised you don't have more subscribers.... you earned a loyal follower here though! Keep up the good work.

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Thanks! I hear that a lot. Maybe someday more people will start liking my stuff. :)

[@Jimbo-pm1dp]

Chris...this is without a doubt the best video Ive seen hiking the JMT.....youve done an excellent job....thank you for sharing your awesome journey and your private thoughts of your beautiful family....I know you were yearning to get home...but I couldnt help but wonder if you were sad that it was over....such a dream come true !!!

[@Cbgb01]

I've watched a lot of videos on the JMT (as it's a dream hike of mine). 12 minutes in and easily one of the most enjoyable I've watched. Really liking your edit style. Earned a sub for sure. Looking forward to checking out more.

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Thanks! So glad ya liked it.

[@TheChrotopterus]

Awesome video, I love it !

[@graemehindshaw4221]

It started with "Chris is awesome" and I thought, here we go, but fucking hell what a production. This is the best produced JMT video I've ever watched, superb (and informative in places). Great stuff you made me hit subscribe!

[@zep4426]

I LOVED it Chris. My Son and his friend are going for it, later this year. Awesome:)👍🏽💖

[@RonGallimore]

Incredible video! The audio, video, editing, narration, everything was fantastic.

[@libmb190e]

Cool video :) and nice editing :)

[@OutmersiveFilms]

jdjd 0 Thanks!

[@speycaster3692]

WOW! The editing of your video is Outstanding!!

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Thanks!

[@Ureyeuh]

As soon as the shot showing the sunrise from Mt. Whitney hit, I was awestruck.

[@bubbeemj7996]

Uriah ذ ؤيؤ إ

[@militaryman69]

Fantastic video!

[@arianpatel1945]

Well done Chris. Amazing.

[@vintagevagabondvegan]

Hey Chris! Awesome video! We started following each other on Instagram so I figured I'd check out your video. Really great work. I love the animation. You started about two weeks after I finished up last year. It was nice seeing a lot of familiar places. I camped on that same ridge over Mono Creek. It was one of my favourite spots. Great sense of humour too! Keep up the good work :)

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Craig Martin Thanks dude! I actually remember seeing your video last year and I shared it on FB! That darn song got stuck in my head. IN YO NATIONAL FOREST!!!!!

[@bobbyboombeck]

Very cool man! I love the personal aspects of your story. Your family, etc. I'm looking to tackle this beast next year and I'll miss my family the most too. Just got back from a 9 day solo Trek in Peru. It was heaven.

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Thanks! Yes the hardest part was definitely being away from the kids. Thank goodness for sat phones so at least I knew they were ok. Good luck on the JMT! It's awesome!

[@juicehikes5436]

Great shots, great edit! Well done!

[@roaddog1m]

Wow, 3 weeks away from home? That's badass! I remember being deployed during Desert Storm thinking about how hard it would be to be gone for an entire 3 weeks with only occasional internet and a sat phone.

[@OutmersiveFilms]

roaddog1m I think we can safely assume that what you did for our country was way more badass. Thanks so much and happy Veterans Day weekend!

[@cammd25]

Hey Chris! I hope all is well. I hope production on the HST video is coming along. I am looking forward to seeing it. - Curtis

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Curtis MiLLER wow hey dude! Nice meeting ya out there! The HST doc is coming along. I’m still shooting interviews for it. It will be released May 5th. Long way out, but this one should be really good. :)

[@potatothorn]

i watch a LOT of JMT/hiking videos.. WOW this is a good one. Amazing production quality and fantastic scenes

[@OutmersiveFilms]

potatothorn Thanks! Glad ya liked it. :) I just upgraded my camera gear so expect the next one to be waaaay better. :) Next project starts in 2 weeks.

[@potatothorn]

wow, how much bettre can it get? ! looking forward to the next one

[@SticksBlog]

Great video! I really enjoyed it! I will likely be hitting you up with random questions over the next few months with questions about a JMT thru! And thanks for the shout out!

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Thanks Stick! Heck yeah feel free to ping me anytime. :)

[@johnmoran3422]

Wait, what??! You're doing a video on the HAT? Cool! Can't wait to see it. I'm sure it will be very helpful in our planning for this summer :-)

[@johnmoran3422]

HST... not HAT... dumb auto correct strikes again:-(

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Yep my High Sierra Trail project is definitely the biggest one yet. It will premiere at this event: switchbackshowcase.ticketleap.com then enter the film festival circuit after that.

[@thomasclark6268]

Great video, Chris. I thru-hiked the JMT in 2014 and was on trail (section hiking) this year about the same time as you, but don't think we crossed paths. Nice to see that BPL helped sponsored you since I'm a lifetime member, but haven't been on as much lately. You must have put in ALOT of hours editing with all of the special effects...labor of love, eh? Nice that you added the gear and tech details...no weights??? ;) . I really enjoyed the nighttime shot with stars between Mather and Pinchot (@ 23:50). Thanks for the Christmas present!

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Hey! Glad ya liked it! Yep it was a good 350 hours. Mostly because of the learning curve and the soundtrack stuff. Here's my gear list: lighterpack.com/r/6p6i2h I indulged a bit, so it was a bit heavier than I hoped. At its heaviest I was 35lbs out of MTR. Yeah I was impressed that my little sony rx100 picked up the milkyway so well. I took a TON of night sky time lapses. Most didn't turn out. I wish I could remember the settings for the ones that did! I think it was ISO1600, F1.8 and 30 sec exposures. I think.

[@OutmersiveFilms]

And yes, BPL has been very kind and supportive of my little project. Look for an article soon!

[@Dewthedru]

loved this! found it via your post on the FB JMT group. i think it was the first JMT video my kids actually wanted to sit through with me. we're hoping to do it as a family in '18 when they're 16, 14, and 11...if my daughter can get over the idea of having to use a cat hole.

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Andy Beecham I've got the same hopes! In 7-8 years I'm hoping my wife and kids will be up to it! Actually, the main motivation for making this movie was to show my kids.

[@3martinihiker]

Great video

[@wazoologist]

Like it! Quirky vid, you crazy man. :)

[@ManuelHerrera]

Chris, great video. I hope to hike the jmt .

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Manuel Herrera Thanks! It takes a little planning but it's totally worth it! I hope to do it again. Maybe 2018.

[@alvarogaitan2529]

hey Chris nice video very nice thanks

[@WasatchWill]

Looks like​a lot of time spent with those animations and motion tracked titles and graphics. This is probably the craftiest edit I've seen of someone's experience with the JMT. Well done!

[@OutmersiveFilms]

+WasatchWill Thanks! I'm still learning FCPX, so every trick I learned at the time ended up in the finished product. ;) Since then I've learned a lot. But... it's funny. Despite the amateur quality of this project, it will likely always be my favorite because it represents such an amazing part of my life.

[@johnwalker5707]

Chris, thank you for an amazing journey. Cathy and I are two months away from a long planned week in Yosemite valley and we have daily hikes planned. Your trip has me dreaming of taking on the entire JMT someday. BTW the music was awesome, too. Blessings to you a and yours.

[@baetaerangfilm8268]

It's very nice video. Take care ~ Subscribed ^.^

[@sharonolsen6579]

Wow ... I have "tried" to watch several of these.. sadly, for the most part, of the ones I have seen .. they are just not... well.. I'm trying to be as diplomatic as possible.. Let's just say they were not as well done as they could have been. Now THIS one.. this one I am loving.. and only 2 minutes in. I can tell I will thoroughly enjoy. It's late, or very early depending on perspective ... (3am) and I like to watch these to try to ease me off to sleep. Hopefully.. ( Chronic insomnia. ) These types of films, when I can find good ones are the best 'medicine' ... and this one is proving to be awesome !!! : )

[@lauragou9318]

Loved the Pringles segment! I smell a sponsorship coming. Awesome video :D

[@OutmersiveFilms]

If you know anyone who works for Pringles, I'm game for that :)

[@jcornell3]

Nice to see you finally got the video done. Sip some of that Islay Scotch for me :)

[@OutmersiveFilms]

John Cornell Heck yeah dude. Already nailed a quarter of the bottle trying to cope with your departure. Lemme know whenever ya wanna go peak bagging.

[@rickclark3371]

Well done, Chris!

[@michellebentz3576]

love your vid, especially your music

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Thanks so much! Most people don’t notice that part. It took a lot of time to record that for sure. Glad ya like it.

[@rogerremnant1601]

Very nice!

[@jasonadams472]

just got to say again bro you really inspired me thanks again for all the hard work and dedication to this project. bravo F@#cking bravo bro you did an perfect job if your day job isn't in film editing and film you need to start in that field for sure.

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Jason Adams Thanks man! Haha believe it or not I'm a network security program manager. Pretty much the opposite of a film editor. But that makes it an even better hobby!

[@JoshGroves]

Outstanding.

[@marcclarke8986]

Great movie ... Very Cool 👍🏻

[@francischouquet8926]

Great video! Would love to do JMT one day. Need to train first and still have some kind of heights fear I should probably get rid of :P

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Francis Chouquet Thanks! The heights aren't actually that bad. Just a few areas of exposure around Forester pass and Whitney.

[@francischouquet8926]

hamsterfish that is what I understood. Thanks for answering :-)

[@BIGDOGBRENT71]

I absolutely love your videos and the editing that you put into them! It makes me want to get in the woods and start hiking! Thank you!

[@OutmersiveFilms]

You’re very welcome. Glad ya like them!

[@davidmizelle4923]

Good stuff! Tempted to do something similar on the AT this year. Kudos!

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Good luck on the AT! If you make a vid on it definitely send it over! I’m more active on the outmersive FB and IG

[@briansimpkins985]

great video, really nice camping spots.....i kind of enjoyed the one pic of the lake and peak with the the drawing of the clouds in the sky and the fish jumping out of the water haha......how was the weather at night for the most part when u did this late aug/beginning sept ....i actually was going to do this last aug 2016 forn aug 12 to sept 6ish...had my permit and resupplies at tmeadows, reds mtr and onion valley but the people i was going with decided to turn into someone different than i had hiked with and got to know over the previous 8 months, anyway happy trails, i will be starting aug 1...

[@OutmersiveFilms]

brian simpkins Heya! The nights were pretty cool. I'd guess 45-30F.

[@scottbot365]

I think that may not be Mount Lyell at 3:57, as there is a permanent snowfield on the north side and I believe a ridge blocks Lyell from sight at Donohue Pass. The top of Lyell may be visible second from the right at 3:52, though -- not 100% sure. Also, excellent video. Even if I stepped up my game when it comes to documenting outdoor pursuits, I think this would still be an order of magnitude better.

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Scott Barnes Interesting, I'll check into that. I been over Donahue 3 times now and ya think I'd get it right by now. ;) My big mess up was "Bushnell Point" on day 1. Apparently it's "Bunnell point." Oops.

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Scott Barnes Nope I got it right! Was starting to question myself for a second. goo.gl/images/WQy0yz I still screwed up Bunnell point though. ;)

[@Element_lifestyle]

How the the tent work out, also howany liters is your pack?

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Tent was amazing, and it’s seen several dozen trips since then and is still holding up like a champ. The Zpacks Arc haul pack is 62L I believe.

[@adamgibbs7738]

enjoyed your editing and the creative way you added text. I'd like to see a video on your process if you ever feel compelled to share a tutorial

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Adam Gibbs Thanks! Interesting idea. The process is loooong, so it may be hard to sum up in a video, but I'll give it some thought.

[@tomthomas334]

some of the music reminded me of NIN ghosts, not to say it was that similar, glad you had the adventure brother.

[@charliebouschor8501]

My feet hurt! Great trip!

[@myhollowtips]

Really nice video! How do you like the arcteryx rain jacket? The arcteryx staff say that it's not meant for 'backpacking' due to heavy loads and abrasion wearing down the material quickly. Do you think it'd be true for ultralight loads?

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Jimmy Zhang Oops sorry for the late reply. The Arcteryx Norvan SL was awesome. No abrasion issues yet. However it's only seen 4-5 trips, and very little rain. 95% of the time it stayed in my pack.

[@OutmersiveFilms]

Jimmy Zhang Just saw the last part of your message. I thinks it's ok for UL loads for trips with a small/medium chance of rain. For very wet trips I might opt for the zPacks challenger instead. Light, but seems a little tougher.