The Joker, The Matrix, Black Batman Rumors

[@NateDoggsayzRegulate]

Can we talk about Marc's shirt? That thing is epic.

[@ShadetheMystic]

It's like two stoners were sitting around reminiscing about movies, and one of them said, "Dude, that needs to be a shirt!" (Sees Kevin) Oh wait....

[@michaelmiller44820]

​@@ShadetheMystic I'd bet my last dollar that that's EXACTLY what happened! lol

[@twiedenfeld]

He's been eating Member Berries.

[@staticshock9701]

Luc Collin bot

[@darthwatson8274]

I’d buy that for a dollar

[@davidbrewer7519]

41:39 Here’s my take. (20+ years in the video game business, so I have an obvious bias) No nonviolent person is going to watch a movie or play GTA5 and be inspired to go kill fifty people with a gun, baseball bat or Cadillac ElDorado. People who commit violent acts may watch the Joker or be drawn to violent video games, but the trigger that sets them off seems to have closer correlations with education, poverty and abuse.

[@Fullmetal1291985]

Indeed they also help people with anger issues aswell by taking out their anger in a safe and healthy way,and it also is a cautionary tale don't push people to far.

[@thekidzcantfathom]

One of the reasons why The Matrix looks similar to Dark City is because Warner Bros. had the Wachowski's re-purpose set pieces from Dark City to lower production cost (opening scene, Trinity running on top of buildings).

[@SantaPorter420]

Fan of dark city and I never knew that, cheers

[@michaeloftaoism]

Yup same roof

[@Silvertip_M]

Honestly, that worked out brilliantly. It just set that neo-noir, cyberpunk theme from the first frames, and at least for me, just set that "everything is not what it seems to be" vibe from the get-go.

[@khrashingphantom9632]

『thekidzcantfathom』 Really?! That's genius and that really makes so much more sense. Although you should check out Blade (1998) now that movie has a lot of similarities asthetically and in the composition with The Matrix.

[@Nobody-dl4tm]

smart. i didnt know that!

[@taylormiklos909]

At 1:24:37 I’m the one who did the portrait. So happy he liked it! Seeing them again on the 17th with an even bigger piece I’m working on! Hope he gets a kick out of it! Was the first time I went to their show. Best birthday gift to myself aha.

[@MidwestDankAlumni]

When was this recorded?

[@taylormiklos909]

September 3rd

[@mematron]

Bro, you gotta work on your values that looks really flat.

[@LoboMeiji]

Every reporter was asking the cast "what is the matrix", only Lawrence Fishburn was able to asnswered it, he sai " Matrix is a movie about 2 hours long"

[@michaeloftaoism]

Wasn't there some interview where the chick called him sam jackson or was it the other way around

[@EbonPriest]

@@michaeloftaoism other way around. a reporter told Sam Jackson that they loved Him in the Matrix.

[@jonathandinh4657]

I still want my Batman Beyond movie with Keaton playing old man Wayne.

[@flamesriders84]

That is the best idea👍

[@chrishansen8119]

He wasnt a good batman, but George Clooney would make an absolutely amazing old man Bruce. Also, Robert Pattinson would be a dope Terry McGinnis edit: Kevin Conroy could also be a pretty good old man Bruce

[@gabrielp9646]

Nah, I love Keaton´s Batman, but I would preffer Kevin Conroy or Iain Glen.

[@djsquirtnasty9534]

@@chrishansen8119 I forgot how good of a Bruce Wayne Clooney made. His batman fell short though.

[@gabrielp9646]

@@Anthonycheesman33 What has that to do with anything..?? xDxD

[@joee8795]

We have a black Batman in Brampton, Ontario Canada......he’s always in full gear and drives the MK Batmobile.... He goes around and helps people, he’s a good dude👍🏻

[@irosencrantz882]

Picture or it didn't happen.

[@SantaPorter420]

@@supermonkeycollider I just clicked the link, that is awesome

[@raunch187]

Ya dude I've seen him aswell in Brampton on hwy 10

[@joee8795]

IRosencrantz Or...... You could just Google “Brampton Batman” 😉

[@dhdgonzo]

He's awesome! - sounds like Worf.

[@p0gima2lin]

Marc's explanation of and connection to Finding Nemo is freaking beautiful.

[@ryana.7510]

Lost me at “White Guilt Batman”. Love you guys though!

[@miguelBT2809]

Ryan A., to sum up, a white man of privilege recognizes his privilege. He is victimized like any other in his city & uses his mind, money & anger to do something about it.

[@ryana.7510]

TheSeeker I think you are confusing “lost me” with “didn’t follow”.

[@miguelBT2809]

Ryan A., damn it. 😑 I was giving you the benefit of doubt. You just hate the idea of altruism.

[@ryana.7510]

TheSeeker I’m just not that big on painting with such a broad brush. Not trying to be rude, apologize if it came off that way. I try my best, day to day, to give others the benefit of the doubt and an opportunity to prove me right or wrong.

[@retard5430]

White people have nothing to be guilty of. I love being white

[@shinjilike]

A new '66 Batman Show would be awesome.. Bill Hader as the Joker, David Tennant as the Riddler, Michelle Monaghan as Catwoman.. and yes, why not, Nathan "Captain Hammer" Fillion as Batman... I would love to watch that.

[@JohnClark-tt2bl]

Mark Hamill as the actual Joker.

[@stevenlemons2602]

I just watched Chasing Amy a few days ago. So much heart and soul. I had tears in my eyes. Great flick, Kevin.

[@TheBoxingCannabyte]

It's funny that got brought up it was just trashed by Jon Oliver whom I enjoy a lot but clearly hadn't seen the movie

[@superstarultra28]

There’s already a black Batman. He’s called Batwing. Use him instead!

[@k.delpino1124]

He was great in 'Bad Blood'. Definitely need more of L.F. jr

[@eon001]

I think Mr Terrific is an even better character to push. He's smarter than Batman and has better tech.

[@aurahoneydew9607]

That's still not Batman enough it's either full Batman or don't bother it's like the revised Arrow in the CW where he's kinda like Batman but that sliver he isn't makes all the difference.

[@Lowlandlord]

Problem of course is that no one outside of comics, and a huge amount of people in comics, don't know who Batwing or Mr. Terrific are. Fox will probably run a few people saying it is Liberals trying to re-brand Batman as black or something, ignoring that he is already a character. You would need to give him exposure first, put him in a Batman movie as a supporting character (a Batman Incorporated Movie might actually be cool, but probably chaotic). Or do a stand alone kind of thing where they jump right in and ignore any backstory complications, like Venom or Suicide Squad.

[@ComicsLamar]

eon001 Mr. Terrific has more tech knowledge than Batman, he’s not smarter. Batman is the guy the Justice League go to for plans to beat Darkseid. Not Mr. Terrific.

[@ashtonturner2862]

Kevin's story about Chasing Amy and himself and Marc's story about his daughter were very touching.

[@THEODSTKING117]

Man maybe I’m baked but Kevin doing that Wolverine walk at 16:29 is fucking hilarious hahaha. Dude looks so animated

[@contactkeithstack]

Definitely

[@Imac7065]

Just searched it up... D:23 is the name of the official Disney Fan Club and 1923 was the year Walt Disney founded the Walt Disney Corp.

[@purefoldnz3070]

aka Evil Corp

[@michaeloftaoism]

@@purefoldnz3070 i want sharks with phrickin lasers

[@TheDarthbinky]

Yeah Steamboat Willie came out in 1928. My grandmother used to joke about how she was exactly a year younger than Mickey Mouse.

[@Imac7065]

@Humanities Resistance what is wrong with you?

[@dissolvemusicofficial7652]

Still recovering from the hilariousness that was Marc’s comment from last episode ‘that’s the problem, I didn’t make it white’ hahah

[@BlackangelKatakuri]

Don’t they realize that by talking about this you’re building hype which will increase interest in the series ?

[@ConnorEllisMusic]

It's Netflix. They know how to market.

[@Silentmetalhead]

Also...thats the point

[@HParekh45]

Kevin tends to say a lot when he's in the flow so I kinda get the producers getting pissy

[@bigmoneymoski]

Wow didn’t expect Kevin to stand his ground against Marcs view on the Joker. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@lestersys]

At 35:55 Kevin said something about the wedding that they edited out.

[@TheRealCobraBurnout]

1:20:07 Mark "Because, It feels illegal" ... Pretty much spot on analysis.

[@shilohstore6086]

I will never look at Finding Nemo the same way again thank you Mark!

[@emeraldarcher4497]

May you and Marc's podcasts never end!!!

[@dennydarkko]

If they make Batman black I will litterally give up my superhero obsession. If they make batman black I will honestly never watch another comic book movie again. Cause after a ridiculous decision like that I can’t imagine any of the movies would get better.

[@bogdannicolas6359]

Get over yourself, it's not bruce wayne

[@dennydarkko]

Bogdan Nicolas as long as it’s not Bruce Wayne. I hate when people change characters to fit the sjw addenda

[@robertolson2146]

@@dennydarkko The real Bruce Wayne grew up in Compton selling dime bags, they changed him to a whiteboy. This is going back to the original

[@dennydarkko]

Robert Olson 😂😂😂😂

[@LeroyFurious]

Black Batman? He's always worn Black...or really dark gray.

[@nitro-verse5311]

HAHA good ond

[@contactkeithstack]

Rreeaalllyyy black batman

[@RobertNorton12013]

DARK...NESS....NO PARENTS!!!!

[@lwaves]

60's Batman begs to differ.

[@Cyromantik]

Deep Navy Batman

[@hbgrimmer850]

I'm all in for a variety of superheroes being any color, gender or ethnicity. But why do we have to change the color or race or gender of existing superheros? Here's a thought how about new superheroes for modern times. I'm all for any gender or race superheroes but to change old school superheroes race,color,gender is just lazy. Why not a series or movie on Batwing ? Hes a great superhero for a movie or series.

[@liuzhaoqi2003]

The real question is: why not? At end of the day, the movies is about story., and how you tell it, dose race/color/gender really matter? Why not change a little bit, see if something new can come out it.

[@hbgrimmer850]

@@liuzhaoqi2003 Why not new superheroes ? Won't new things come out of that ? More modern storylines that fit into today's problems ? I think its lazy writing and creativity to change a superheros race or gender instead of creating new heroes with different backgrounds and race and gender.

[@sleepofgiants410]

New superheroes don't sell as well as the brand everyone knows.

[@hbgrimmer850]

@@sleepofgiants410 changing the character to a different race or gender also puts that at risk to make less money or lose popularity.

[@hbgrimmer850]

Also theres some kick ass heroes that deserve a movie. How about Luke Cage , Black Lightning ,Wildstreak , Blue Marvel,Storn .

[@ronmarchini2500]

I just looked through the comments to find someone who posted time stamps on the subjects, and y'all have failed me.

[@Trent_Hyatt]

what does being a black man in america have to do with the joker.

[@matthewlangdale]

@@JsonCamp13 come on. That's pretty racist. Is there a number on that accusation?

@@JsonCamp13 "Thre's always an excuse for why a white criminal did whatever he did". Isn't it normally blamed on white supremecy?

[@JsonCamp13]

@ I would blame it on white privilege. Not all white crimes were hate crimes. Just crimes with shitty motives.

[@JsonCamp13]

@TheCreepyLaughingCorpse Of your nanna actually as sarcastic as you are... That is correct. Limited Opportunities, more hurdles, and discrimination with unequal educational funding.... Yeah again survival.

[@JsonCamp13]

@TheCreepyLaughingCorpse Of your nanna I am fun at parties...it's a party...why wouldn't I be?

[@TrishhMakes]

"taxi driver didn't inspire a nation of taxi drivers" but we did have that dude who wanted to kill the president and was obsessed with jodie foster.

[@YourVideoEssaysSuck]

Oh because he saw her in taxi driver. Took me a minute to understand what you were talking about. I hope the Joker inspires some people to not be so boring all the time

[@theretrosavage]

John hinkley

[@hayleys4627]

Excellent point. I’m also surprised they didn’t think of Aurora either. I’m not saying these films made these disturbed people do something horrific, but they certainly inspired the way these acts occurred.

[@theretrosavage]

@@hayleys4627 these individuals had psychological issues....their perception of reality was already distorted... censoring art... whether is film, music, fine art, comic books, so on and so forth is a dangerous thing..

[@unclecreed2986]

@@theretrosavage who doesn't have psychological issues in this day and age?

[@charleshetrick3152]

This Joker flick isn’t going to be a how to manual for lunatics. If anything all us normals should look at this as a trainer on how to spot and redirect the pre-lunatic.

[@Lowlandlord]

Probably end up being both my dude.

[@bluespaghettis6299]

“Shirt, shirt, tie,tie” lmao

[@mattym8038]

👏👏Marc telling the Nemo story😢😢 so touching and beautiful that he can share that with so many.

[@ridd22]

With the rictus grin and wild hair, I'd love to see Peter Capaldi as a classic looking Joker in Suicide Squad 2. A pipe dream, I know!!

[@littlepantherlp]

Its funny you said this. Somebody said David Tennant as the Riddler. I thought, yeah cool but not as cool as Capaldi as Joker.

[@virtuawarriorsofj6667]

Marc Bernardin: "We shouldn't have a Joker Movie because it might inspire shooting sprees. By the way I saw John Wick 3 and I loved it!!"

[@DazedN7]

He's great, some of his takes come off really weird too me.

[@TwenteeEight]

He actually wasn’t the biggest fan of JW3. Also Marc eloquently explains himself so well yet dudes like you don’t hear it. So odd.

[@89RobertB]

Sick of the wokeness, it's a cancer

[@SullyReviews5000]

It’s because it’s DC. He has a strange hatred for all things DC. Look he’s bashing this and it’s not even out.

[@Wannabe_Baby]

@@TwenteeEight No, Mark doesn't explain himself so well. When Black Panther was coming out, he was rubbing his hands together with glee on Twitter about how "white people will be forced to identify with a black person! It'll be a shock to their system!" Meanwhile, articles were being written about how Dwayne Johnson was the biggest star in Hollywood based on box office success. He's clueless. He tries to turn everything into a social justice issue even when he has no argument.

[@nerdmasala]

A cut around 35:55 huh? I wonder what was said.

[@Slappysan]

Same.

[@lifeasafanpodcast9529]

There was a cut early on as well

[@Lowlandlord]

A couple cuts. Bet that fat fuck said something he shouldn't have, to the surprise of no one. Hopefully no one blows it up and the people at Mattel don't get mad at him. I was thinking to myself, "I wonder if one of the problems he has with the industry is that there is a perception of him airing dirty laundry". Part of his problems with Ben were about Jennifer, part were about the fact that dude is not very good at keeping secrets, although he is a lot better now.

[@4Dyce]

35:00 also had a cut, definitely saying something he shouldn't haha

[@nunyabsness4005]

Sorry Mark you're on your own on this one. Joker is an Rated R movie so people are being warned about the content in advance and it's being released in October during horror season. To blame a film for society's problems is a complete cop out. Mental health problems have always existed and gun control is a contemporary problem in America AND social media has brought much attention to America's blind spot. Scapegoating the Joker is just the stupidest thing any thinking person can do. Just don't go watch it and yes theaters should improve security for this films release.

[@scottyben191]

Yup. Mark is too woke for his own good sometimes.

[@Splintz4daWintz]

he must be a Marvel fan

[@sithlord6402]

Mark reads black into everything. Even his IG account is annoying.

[@blahblah2682]

yeah I was like WTF when he started talking. Kevin sounded like he was thinking "This dudes an idiot".

[@kyleharlan100]

Not that I think this movie is going to actually cause any real problems (and like Marc said, it isn't even out yet - we haven't even seen it), but even the Heath Ledger Joker is a wet dream folk hero for dipshit incels and college edgelords. And that Joker wasn't even the literal protagonist of his own movie. Remember the dude who dressed like the Joker and shot up a screening of Dark Knight Rises? A quick Google will show you there's still (even as recently as July) real life crimes committed by Joker copycats. That said - I'm sure there's also murderous Mary Poppins copycats. I don't think the movie is actually going to do much more harm than most crime movies. But technically, yes, making an anarchic, nihilistic, murderous troll an appealing, relatable, cool character gives a lot of unmoored 4chan trolls a lot of encouragement to keep being their worst selves. That laugh is going to end up in a lot of youtube cringe compilations.

[@luxi378]

yeah i remember how everybody was like "oh wait let's think about the social implications before we have watched the film" when heath ledger did his version of the joker... wtf. kevin is right.

[@JLPayne_78]

Not that I'm against shaking up the characters a bit but: Black Professor X? Black Magneto? Black Batman? If you're going to do it just expand the multi-verse where a universe exists where ALL the major heroes are a different race, gender or even sexual orientation. Just go as deep as you can. But don't try to make it cannon. Messing with these characters in a real way is just hard to swallow. CREATE NEW characters of color or gender who can become a part of the original timelines of DC and Marvel without the stigma of being a re-imagined version of an iconic character.

[@gmork1090]

Will Smith said it best. They offered him Superman and he said HELL no he's not going to blackify a Jewish/white icon. So he played Hancock instead knowing it wouldn't be anywhere near as good. You don't want white people playing black peoples roles, being a hypocrite and remaking white characters as black makes sense in what reality? There is an alternate Earth in the DC universe with a black Superman who isn't Clark Kent, so what's wrong with doing that?

[@maxamillion2140]

@@gmork1090 Weird that Will Smith said okay to Deadshot then considering that dude was white. I wonder if it's because he knew people wouldn't care. I want original black characters that are iconic as Batman and Superman, not just take over white character, Black Panther could probably get up there, but we need more like him.

[@igorschmidlapp6987]

That's why DC had "Elseworlds" stories... back when they had a publisher that was worth a shit... FUCK YOU, Dan DiDio... #DIDIOT...

[@gmork1090]

@@maxamillion2140 Yep. Deadshot is different. He isn't a world renowned icon. No one really cares. I even liked his portrayal of the character, though they gave him more emphasis than he deserved. Superman? Yeah, that would have caused rioting in the damn streets.

[@joshpearman8828]

Marc had me in tears with his first answer during the q&a. What a great Dad story.

[@gladiatorscoops]

Perfect She-Hulk casting would have been Lucy Lawless back in the 90s

[@metalahhhhhhhhhhhh]

Dude Jokers been a violent crazy character in comics for decades. His character is problematic only now!? Come one now, all that crap about this Joker film is bs.

[@Eagle-fu3hz]

Does no one remember that Cat man is in Fairly Ood Parents that is adam west or atlest based of his batman

[@gabrielp9646]

My Personal Fancast for a comedic Batman 66 rebbot: Batman/Bruce Wayne...Nathan Fillion Catwoman/Selina Kyle...Aubrey Plaza Joker/Mr J...FREAKING ALAN TUDYK!! Robin/Dick Grayson...(R.I.P. Anton Yelchin) Now I would say Dylan O´Brien, or Ezra Miller.

[@brettpoole7888]

I'm really tired of hearing alarmist opinions on the joker movie ...he has been doing violent shit forever and most villians have empathetic or sympathetic story's this isn't anything new ....but the fact that people actually are worried about this fictional comic book movie means it must be a good movie or at least done very well.

[@Cyromantik]

The very best villains are the ones we can sympathize with!

[@brettpoole7888]

@@Cyromantik Yep that's what makes them interesting is that they operate or operated in the grey area of life where you can understand where they're coming from even though they go down a dark path. It would suck if they were evil just because with no real reason.

[@fjdkshb]

Damn, Marc's Finding Nemo story had my in tears. Thank you for sharing that, Marc.

[@purefoldnz3070]

The best thing in the new Joker trailer was the movie playing in the theater was Excalibur.

[@joshallanmpls4495]

I saw The Matrix for the very first time in the theater at Mall of America opening weekend on 6 hits of lsd. You think think the flick is insane when you're sober? lol THAT was an experience! It actually changed my life and opened my eyes to the world around me. One of my favorite flicks of all time...

[@mgezz3]

Bill Maher would have been proud of you wearing a shirt and tie 😂

[@taylorlibby7642]

There's already been a real life black Batman!! I can't believe no one's ever made a movie out of this awesome true story!!In the late 70's-early 80's there was a soft spoken hero of a man who customized his car into the baddest sled around. Then he started calling himself The Birmingham Batman and driving the highways around the city rescuing stranded motorists and helping out in emergencies. He never accepted a dime from anyone for his good works and was a HERO to this little blonde boy!! I think there's an old That's Incredible episode featuring him! He totally deserves to be recognized as the first REAL Batman!!

[@jonathandinh4657]

As the Joker says "the difference between you and me is just one bad day".

[@wescamp3367]

Jonathan Dinh that was the Punisher in Daredevil season 2

[@FortheLoveofMonsters]

Does Kevin not remember the mass shooter that went into a movie theater dressed up like the Joker? When he says "no ones going to dress up like the Joker and...", it's like he almost remembers a man DID see the Joker and killed A LOT of people. Movies don't make monsters but they can inspire them.

[@kobetca]

I think he picked the wrong Mcfly. Crispin Glover would be an amazing Joker.

[@EcstasyTiger]

Idris Elba as Deathstroke, Peter Capaldi as Dr. Freeze

[@cazzclown4594]

Adam West did Catman in Fairlyodd Parents

[@Radispi]

Oh, shit! I forgot about that! Imagine a whole show with that Catman. Did he have a robin? I can't recall

[@FatFredyFreak]

Like the question selection idea, 3 really interesting questions tonight with great answers from Mark and Kev.

[@SapiaNt0mata]

"White Black Panther Rumors".

[@miguelBT2809]

SapiaNt0mata, they can easily do White Wolf & no one would mind.🙄

[@mrg466]

Hey, it would be good to see a character, who had the word "black" in his title, and yet for once, not be a black person!

[@SapiaNt0mata]

@@miguelBT2809 you missed the point. we want to make a specific group of people to care cause each time a white character is blackwashed they say "it's a fictional character so the skin color doesn't matter".

[@miguelBT2809]

SapiaNt0mata, okay! Out of the ENORMOUS pool of African, African-American or otherwise characters that Marvel has, which one(s) would you suggest??

[@raggedrec]

i will never tire of Marc's stories about his daughter and nemo xx

[@RichardMcCord1971]

@Kevin Smith, PLOT TWIST: John Wick 4 and Matrix 4 are the same movie!

[@safwatnuman4297]

The crowd reaction to Kevin’s pun was hilarious 😂😹😹

[@KareemHarper]

Damn I

[@landscaper1975]

Joker talk starts @ 37:30

[@virtuawarriorsofj6667]

I heard next year they are going to make Wonder Woman a man.

[@RadicalValkyrie]

Did Kevin not watch Days Of Future Past? That was where they literally showed the change over of X-Men characters with the time wipe.

[@mystery8820]

Black Batman rumors? Remember the Smosh video parody called “Reboots Suck”? One scene says “Batman is back and he’s black. The really, really Dark Knight. And don’t get offended that Batman is Black cuz that makes u racist.” Yeah, it’s all coming back to us now.

[@mr.brooks6106]

Props to Marc for referencing Gene Gene The Dancing Machine. Literally just talking about him at work on Friday 😂😂

[@thequietlion3553]

Black Panther 2 is waaaaaay too far away. 🤦🏻‍♂️ 😔

[@strika1140]

Tenet has not only been known for quite some time, the trailer is easily found online...

[@amccall88]

Marc's t-shirt is amazing.... I'd buy that for a dollar!!

[@edm0305]

I see what you did there. It’s hard to get a Robo Cop reference into a conversation.

[@Kerm0]

An interesting point to Marc's Matrix conversation. The opening of The Matrix was actually a flop with their marketing of: "No one can tell you what the Matrix is, you have to see it for yourself." They actually released some action trailers AFTER the release of the movie because the opening was so poor and then people started going after seeing some interesting clips. Still definitely a classic now. Keep up the great work boys we love you both!

[@theundead1600]

The opening for it where i lived at the time was full at every show for the whole weekend. Maybe regionaly it started to flop.

[@Reborn77774]

X-Men Days of Future Past I think it's the best movie of X-Men

[@dirgramsey6132]

S.C.B.M the problem is they all look exactly the same in the new one even though years supposedly pasted

[@unclecreed2986]

@@dirgramsey6132 Magneto having the same character development 4 films Ina row doesn't help.

[@paullycompton]

First Class or X2

[@Pilek01]

Logan is the best for me.

[@paullycompton]

@@Pilek01 Logan is the best. i picked between the actual full X-Men flicks

[@PaulRizzo]

I love the He-man talk. So pumped!!!

[@jokerswild9660]

Joker is supposed to be a cautionary tale

[@hayleys4627]

JESTER PRODUCTIONS 2 but like Fight Club, it has the potential to be completely misinterpreted

[@jokerswild9660]

@@hayleys4627 well, art is subjective after all

[@boomieboo]

1:36:51 - 1:39:49 Beautiful moment Marc. Thanks for sharing it.

[@dasc0yne]

"The suit is literally perfection." "It will be - when it fits a black man."

[@chrisryan8285]

Thank you for the substantial discussion on the potential impact of The Joker. Respectful exchange of ideas is what we should all be doing, especially re what we love. Great role modeling (Kevin will hate that compliment), gents.

[@DanielTorres-pw8il]

but he went on a full rant about a movie he has not seen. it was not appropiate

[@honourableI1]

Black Batman. Everythings better Black; it"s like when these artists created these characters they didn't know what they were doing and the delicate sensibilities of 2019 folk are finally making their creations by changing a focal point of their identity to suit their ideological insecurity that everything isn't about them if they don't see "Representation" on the TV. I'm glad. Maybe some Blacks will want to act like Batman instead of the thug rapper drug dealer murderers some of them look up to now.

[@johnpliskin8759]

you are human garbage

[@honourableI1]

@@johnpliskin8759 A little satire hurt your feelings snake?

[@crackedupmonk]

I liked his until that last line. Lol that’s not humor, that’s ignorance man. The 90s did a number on you huh?

[@honourableI1]

@@crackedupmonk I've worked with Black Dads over the years who have had a lot worse to say about rapcrap than I do. A bit rude and condescending but not really ignorant. What are the social norms and morals put forth by that section of "culture" Jarring sure but whenever I hear other folks talk about Whites it's just as blunt and derogatory. I'll change it to "some" because of you. Most is a bit harsh.

[@theboomshaq]

Best Audio on this ep!

[@yarn7130]

Spontaneously started clapping at Ebony and Ivory, well played..

[@neil0666]

What if that's the song they play as they are transforming mark into the mammoth. 🤣

[@jpetersgoyanks]

I’ve always thought Mark was right about black Bruce Wayne for the exact reason that he gives here, which he has always given, but while hearing him say it this time I thought of something. The character he’s describing here is not Bruce Wayne... it’s often Thomas Wayne and Bruce is just fulfilling his fathers wishes for the city his family built. If Bruce is an adult now then Thomas would have met his wife post the civil rights movement and a progressive man like he would have been may have married a black woman making Martha Wayne African American and Bruce could be mixed with a darker complexion. There you have your black Batman. Not that it needs to be done because it improves the narrative, it doesn’t change it much. It does however, offer a totally valid reason a director could use an African American actor as Bruce Wayne if he was the right actor for his or her vision of Batman.

[@blendonator]

Jackie Chan movies would just say "fighty fighty" 😀

[@gabzilla8820]

FINALLY!!! been waiting for this for over a week

[@jacquesalas4294]

Of all the times I've watched this show I've Kevin break down and almost cry but to see his new hetero life mate next to almost break down was very moving. It's good to see Mark has a heart too 😂😂😍 nothing but love for you Mark just kidding about the heart thing. I look forward to one day have conversation with you, I don't always agree but your outlook makes it possible to see bigger pictures and details in this painting we call life.

[@PlayNiceFolks]

Been skimming thru the comments of this video for a while. Your comment here is truly good. Thanks and peace out ✌

[@AloisWeimar]

I concur

[@jacquesalas4294]

@@PlayNiceFolks thank you 🙏👍🤙

[@Nick-yk4pq]

Could the sound person please fix the low ringing? it should be a simple EQ adjustment!

[@onlocationkat]

Where can we get Marc's great shirt?

[@homestarflyerify]

The Aurora shooter was all about Heath's Joker.

[@Fred247]

I want Aicha Tyler for SheHulk!

[@HuggyBear420]

Bruce banner is white in the mcu so Jennifer Walters has to look like mark Ruffalo's cousin

[@Fred247]

@@HuggyBear420 Not really. White guys can have cousins of other colours. I wasn't thinking of race-swapping or tokenizing, I just really like Aisha and think she'd be fun in the role. Plus she's like over 180cm

[@Fred247]

@@HuggyBear420 As an actress, Aisha can play a tree if she wanted to ;)

[@HuggyBear420]

@@Fred247 she hulk should be played by by eliza dushku.

[@HuggyBear420]

She hulk is a wise cracking tough as nails new York lawyer. Eliza dushku would be the best

[@Hutchings02]

Marc unintentionally just touched my soul there and then stuck the landing by being able to instantly turn on man-mode right after. wow

[@wildsmiley]

I’ve always wanted Nathan Fillion as Hal Jordan. Dunno why Hal would be hanging out with the Suicide Squad, though... Also, D23 refer to the founding of the Walt Disney Company in 1923. Steamboat Willie didn’t come out until 1928.

[@SantaPorter420]

Easy enough, they're already looking at doing a Question Movie, someone like Question would be investigating waller, (and in one alternate version working with waller) he could conceivably run into a government test pilot named Hal Jordan

[@chrishansen8119]

The Disney company waa founded in 1923 by Roy O Disney and Walt Disney. Contrary to popular belief, Steamboat Willie wasnt Walt's first animation with the Disney Company, it was actually a short animated film by the name if "Alice's Wonderland," which came out in 1923.

[@wildsmiley]

Chris Hansen Correct. Everybody assumes Steamboat Willie was first because it was the first Mickey Mouse cartoon seen by the public at large (Plane Crazy was his actual first appearance, but that wasn’t distributed widely).

[@VonSnootingham]

When they were trying to recast Batman 66, when Kev was trying to think of a Joker, as soon as he brought up the point of Caesar Romero having been a bigger actor 15 years prior, my mind instantly clicked to Michael Keaton. Michael Keaton would be my recast camp Joker. He's got the Beetlejuice energy and the irony of him being on the other side of the coin is just too delicious.

[@JNelsonArt]

When Marc was talking about his concerns with the Joker movie, I thought he was referring to the shooting that happened in the theater during The Dark Knight Rises, given the fact that this is also a Batman movie and it most likely (as they mention) has a scene where the protagonist literally kills a theater/auditorium full of people

[@stevecange8171]

being a father of a special needs child I can relate with Mark with finding Nemo for my son it was Toy Story 3 but he has moved on to one other movie into the spiderverse, He loves Spiderman plays the PS4 game all the time. So now every time Toy Story 3 comes on I stay and watch it even if im alone. Just hearing your story Mark almost made me cry and work lol.

[@nitro-verse5311]

Look......😔 I don't want to be this guy cuz I believe everyone should have a spotlight but I hope theyre doing black batman cuz they have a fresh interesting story to tell and not just because representation because if u really wanted racial respect you would make a brand new character for the community not just swap out an existing property thats lazy.

[@ianalopez]

Mark had a good reason a while back about why a black Bruce Wayne doesn't make sense and I agree. However a completely fresh take on Batman worh a different/new character would be cool. I dont see why Terry Mcguiness can't be a black Batman

[@ianalopez]

@@honourableI1 Whoa, what? Can you elaborate a little more?

[@hbgrimmer850]

I'm all in for a variety of superheroes being any color, gender or ethnicity. But why do we have to change the color or race or gender of existing superheros? Here's a thought how about new superheroes for modern times. I'm all for any gender or race superheroes but to change old school superheroes race,color,gender is just lazy. Why not a series or movie on Batwing ? Hes a great superhero for a movie or series.

[@nitro-verse5311]

@@hbgrimmer850 that's my point exactly thank u. But I'm also saying they totally do black batman but not just because. I mean black panther is an existing black character and he's a badass

[@traveewavvee]

Nitro- Verse imagine the back lash of changing black panther to a white character for representation in Africa since white people are a minority there? It’s so dumb. Just create new characters that have their own stories that are compelling and stop piggy backing off established characters and gender or race swapping. It’s lazy.

[@thearm-chaircornerman4101]

Silent Bob wantsa dialogue heavy He-Man😂😂😂

[@moomel1099]

Omg Marcs shirt 😂

[@ctrosejr]

I wonder if Robert Paterson was up to play Adam Warlock right before James Gunn got fired from Guardians and it got shelved.

[@LinusKnight]

Tom Rose it was Star-Lørd - there's an interview with Feige and a female Marvel producer and i think even Gunn - they talk about Pratt almost not getting it but Gunn and the female producer pushing for him- and hey said Pattinson was one they reached out to.

[@Donbro]

Marc's takes on things are always weird to me, joker isn't saying getting beat up makes you a killer, it's saying that a fragile mind and can be broken through abuse, to a point where all sense of humanity is lost, and God does he like to play the black card, I don't think he's a bad dude but like I say his takes are so strange to me

[@generalilbis]

Fair enough, but Marc is a black man. He's never not going to view things through that lens unless some massive Infinity Gauntlet magic snap happens and all the racism in America disappears. He is lucky in that he's a successful black man but he knows he's an outlier when people who share skin colour get assaulted or killed just for being black. The writers and director of "Joker" might not have intended to convey the message or theme Marc picked out, but I'm not going to discount Marc's take on the film because the intent was something else.

[@Whiplash557]

The Joker could also be a good way to open up the conversation about mental illnesses and the dangers of isolation

[@mcquaid8636]

Matrix 4: resurrect Joe Pantoliano/cypher. Mind blower: his deal with the agents in the first movie went through, the sequels were projections/mind control to distract The One, who finally realizes it, and comes back from the dead, needs to track down Cypher (who is now a good man w his memory erased) and restore his memory.

[@TheFallofTheEleventh]

Trader McQuaid that would allow for Agent Smith to come back in his original form too! I like your idea!

[@droleht1557]

I'd watch that movie

[@eggheadwarrior9152]

Marc, that comment about your daughter and Finding Nemo was beautiful. You're the man.

[@eon001]

I'd rather they make a Mr Terrific movie than a black batman.

[@rushaholic]

Dark Phoenix felt like a film edited with first takes only.