The Joy of Being Nobody

[@andofeverything]

Welcome to And of Everything: I am glad to see that several people have already watched this and liked it. Please like, comment and subscribe!

[@JJONNYREPP]

The Joy of Being Nobody. 23.2.24. Is the "seeker" a hero? the metaphorical prison seem to be literal with your religions...and some are sick of living their lives like they don't exist. I have yet to comprehend why self enquiry should offend the sensibilities of others... easy words, though....

[@phk2000]

All is energy. When this is seen and felt causeless smiles and chuckles appear and all is Peace, Love, Joy and Happiness!!

[@lthomas72UK]

every time Tony giggles, I giggle :D

[@quantessenz]

The story of not having a story anymore. Fantastic!

[@thumbnailgreen9155]

Holy Moly. I’m a nobody! I kinda knew all along but wow it is true

[@blessingribeiro22]

The longing went when the longer died, how profound

[@lordbyron3603]

Wow! { When “me” dies ,, life is very very simple and very ordinary! And effin amazing! When the “me” collapses,, life is ver ordinary. And very simple. And is utterly FREE! It’s utterly fulfilling for no one. }

[@JoeSiegfried]

You are preaching to the choir! When we realize our true nature as perfect love, the joy unbounded fills the soul.

[@Avinash7802]

What is our true nature?

[@tomsmith2361]

@@Avinash7802 Simply life. You’re simply living energy like a tree or a lion or a whale. The mind/self/awareness is a living being. This is seen, not understood. The mind shuts down what Tony is trying to point to. Stay well 👍

[@Avinash7802]

@@tomsmith2361 Thanks for the reply. Did you realize your nature? Is there any changes in your day to day life after realizing.

[@tomsmith2361]

@@Avinash7802 Nothing happened. I didn’t find anything. The question of what is your true nature is just the mind doing what the mind does ( wanting to know) and it won’t stop. You will ask and wonder and search till the cows come home. Nothing to find. Your already whole and complete already. Nobody has answers. The self is an illusion ( mind created this). I just see breathing and living. Nothing special and nobody special. There’s just what’s happening . It’s dirt simple, so simple we overlook it. Stay well

[@LAQ24]

"It's utterly fulfilling for no one"

[@Sparks53]

I just stumbled upon this on KZbin and it's a delight. You deliver pointers with a sense of humor which is often lacking among your peers. Thank you.

[@laoisemeehan]

Yes I'm so glad someone said it. It is a futile process, constant striving to go from point A to point B, due to being dissatisfied with point A.

[@samtchen]

Finally someone adresses some truth about psyhotherapy and our culture . Thanks ! The Post ego stage is so difficult to grasped for our self inquiry based culture , that this video might be actually usefull for maybe only for 5 % of our society . But how cares - Let's grow some brain :)

[@kundaliniairport]

Could you please post that once more, in English?

[@gerrickhan]

Post ego stage 🤣🤣🤣 what a load of bullshit

[@samtchen]

Look up some buddhist philosophy - maybe then you get it : the ego is a construct of your mind , it has no real center , not the emotions , not the the thoughts , not the body . nothing there has lasting identity everything changes all the time @@gerrickhan

[@JustOneWillingSoul]

Okay, I strongly agree about the nature of therapy and how it completely fails to address the core issue. And Christianity, when poorly interpreted (which is most often the case), is certainly prone to the error of teaching that you have to change. However, Christianity properly interpreted IS non-duality. "I and the father are one" is about as non-dual as it gets. See, the way Jesus teaches is very clever. He finds phrasings that mean one thing to people at a certain level, and mean a different thing to people at a different level. Here's an example: "For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. So then, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever practices and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven." "Until Heaven and Earth pass away" means: the duality of Heaven vs. Earth will cease to exist. "Until everything is accomplished" contextualizes differently when you recognize that everything already is accomplished. Being called great or least in the Kingdom of Heaven would be interpreted by most as 'I need to behave a certain way to get the reward at the end'. People at that level of understanding need something of a moral framework based on where they are at in spiritual evolution. However, a more sophisticated understanding of the quote is this: there is no rank in Heaven. I mean...duh! Seriously, think about it for a moment. There's no rank in perfection ; you can't have more Peace than Peace ; you can't be more one with God than one with God. It's not the case that in heaven one person gets the penthouse suite whereas another person gets the room next to the noisy ice machine. There is no greater or lesser in Heaven. When you realize that, you realize that the correct understanding is that you can follow anywhere between zero and all of the commands, and you still get Heaven. You're not being asked to do anything other than be what you are. Is this comprehensible? This style of teaching reflects Jesus' sense of humor, which is a characteristic most often lost or ignored by modern day interpretations of his teachings. I don't care if you want to accept Jesus as God Manifest or not, but at least have some respect for him as a spiritual teacher. He was teaching Non-Duality two thousand years ago! And he knew how to disguise it so that only those who have ears to hear will hear. No one has pulled off the teaching style of Jesus even remotely close to his degree of mastery. If you're seeing it the way modern day Christianity sees it, then its on you for not putting it together at the deeper level that is there. See, religion and the old testament and Revelation (which is utterly fallacious) are one thing ; the actual teachings of JESUS CHRIST himself are another thing. You learn from the enlightened teacher, not from the unenlightened interpretation of that teacher by others. What Jesus taught has been so distorted precisely because it contains incredibly deep truth, and truth is always attacked, yes? The more truth and the more power, the more enemies of truth come out of the woodwork to attack it. Jesus represents the absolute maximum of truth, and therefore he is the most maligned, misunderstood, misinterpreted, and mistreated. Jesus was crucified for telling the truth at a time when falsehood was the prevailing level of consciousness on Earth. So, maybe we can show just a little respect for him as a teacher, yes?

[@andofeverything]

Thanks for your thoughtful reply!

[@JustOneWillingSoul]

@@andofeverything Yui're welcome

[@jimrich4192]

Whatever!!! 😮

[@petrasciencetutors9003]

Tony, makes me weep...freedom makes me weep!

[@healingmeow]

It’s utterly fulfilling for no one 😂❤❤❤ love this!!

[@erenonduality]

Fucking amazing 😂❤🎉 beautiful video!

[@karlskaret275]

🙄

[@jamesskinnercouk]

Listening to this reminds me of when I was at school and I used to cover my hand in glue just to enjoy the experience of peeling the stuff off when it’s dried. I do wonder with narratives that separate are better off being looked at as useful tools to help us grasp reality instead of being worried that they’re ruining how someone perceives reality (certainly can cause confusion), but also I feel the soul wants to experience separation and difference just so it can experience joy (if all you knew was heaven you wouldn’t recognize it as heaven). As for seeking maybe it’s a collective process we are going through, the more one learns about anything it adds to the collective imagination and wonders of the world. At the end of the day are you having a good time.

[@LG-jz3tj]

Omg...i love when he said Fucking Amazing i say that too...lol

[@andofeverything]

Me too!

[@lordbyron3603]

I’m one of those people that have moved away from any authority!!

[@SkyScannerBtown]

scream it with that authority baby!!See !! Its not that bad after all :::)

[@amarrejane0]

thanks, thanks! ❤

[@andofeverything]

Thank you, please consider subscribing

[@S3eauchemin]

You just drop into your body. Immediately you feel the formless. There is no thinking. And Robert’s your mother’ brother, You are there. You have entered now.

[@andofeverything]

You’re phrasing, “And Robert’s your mother’ brother” is a curious one; I never heard that before.

[@amandadesylva3822]

I connected it with the uk phrase "Bob's your uncle" meaning that'll sort it out.

[@cathyquinn9820]

Really enjoyed that, thank you

[@debtickner]

I love this 🙏🏻

[@nunoalexandre6408]

Only...Love...remains..

[@GE0attack]

This channel is diamond in rough condition

[@meld2584]

The joy of being what hugely Famous!! Oh thanks! Your healer a d deliverer oh thanks!! :)

[@bee7776]

Fully agree🥳

[@neilhundtoft4873]

We live two lives. The second one begins when we come to realize that there is only one. Ha ha ha! Peace.

[@Dhardy316]

Nyce!!!

[@claudedupont7432]

What is unlimited does not care about liberation,it s only our human mind that is seeking.

[@khoubbazhakeem3888]

👍🏼

[@genarocuellar777]

Ego at it's best.

[@guynouri]

Modern real hero For everyone!

[@iconicshade]

There's absolutely nothing that the seeker can do to bring about an end to the seeking. It's completely hopeless for the seeker.

[@andofeverything]

Nice observation.

[@buzzdanker2832]

Our search for meaning has brought us here to learn that there is no meaning...

[@andofeverything]

Well said.

[@erenonduality]

No one can learn, it’s not unlearning also, it’s just that there is no one to learn or unlearn anything. And this comment doesn’t have any meaning 🤸‍♀️🎉❤️

[@andre8860]

Amen to that

[@mjac8373]

First off--I really like and appreciate the filter you are using on the video aspect; it immediately caught my eye along with the title. The content of course is exactly the medicine that will bring the freedom beyond knowing as he says. Thanks. 5 Stars++

[@andofeverything]

The most generous comment I have gotten so far on any video. Thank you kindly.

[@anj000]

But what is the reason for this filter though? I personally don't mind it on the thumbnail - it is nice, but I would transition into a normal camera feed after couple of seconds from the start of the video.

[@andofeverything]

@@anj000 It is pleasing to my aesthetic sensibility. My initial reason for using the “cartoon” filter was that it seemed a metaphorical way to mock the extreme leftists. To see them in cartoon format seemed a subtle way of trolling them. But as not all the videos feature the leftists, but people commenting on the leftists, I have continued to use the filter. At the very least it is generating attention, so perhaps that is a good thing for my channel. But I take it you don’t like it. I like your idea of using it as an intro for the first few seconds of the video, and then return to no-filter. Thanks for your suggestion.

[@HeartOfLightning]

I would agree, with the addition that it might look particularly interesting for those who are colour blind 😄 thanks for sharing this 🙏

[@andofeverything]

@@HeartOfLightning Are you saying you would keep the comic filter on for the entire video, or not?

[@clumsydad7158]

thankfully being a nobody comes easy to me

[@Harsha-Harsh]

My me is driving me crazy now it can’t even keep a job

[@MrTetsukobu]

People confuse words with personal experience. The clucking of and old man will not bring chicken to your table.

[@Satsang2012]

Only an I am can be a nobody. It is quite different when there is no one.

[@andofeverything]

Insightful comment “you” made there!

[@sohara....]

Am interested. What's the experience over there? Ta

[@tomato1040]

In Homer's Odyssey, the hero, Ulysses👣Odysseus burns out the only eye 👁️ of the Cyclops (the🎥📸Camera). The monster cried out, "Who did this?"🤔. Ulysses taunted back to the Cyclops, "It is, 'Nobody!'"

[@tomato1040]

Discretion is the better part of the valor of human🦸 enlightenment🧘. Only a nobody would say there is nothing to change unless knowing that there is no body & no thing but only clear🎺perception👁️🎶👂!

[@christinaforras]

He speaks the message of A Course in Miracles 🫠❤ specifically lesson 79 came in ✨✨

[@andofeverything]

That is the reason I like Course in Miracles, because it is essentially a Christain non-dual teaching. Thanks for commenting. Please consider subscribing to my channel.

[@categrieves]

Haha. 10 years ago this message helped “pop” my mind. Since then, it is this beautiful boundary-less spacious aliveness. I am so grateful for the words that seem to come from Tony, but there is no Tony haha. Just “this”. ❤️🕊️🙏

[@andofeverything]

Thanks for sharing your experience!@@categrieves

[@stevemurray8257]

haha, y'gotta love it.

[@tomato1040]

The key words here in this video are "Nobody"😭🤺. "Balance" ⚖️ , & Ego. Egoic😔consciousness gets💔 broken easily, like an🥚egg of the ego, craked by the Teacher🫵called Life🧬in either😊🎶Joy or strife😢!

[@Artezia]

Definitely chemicals and synthetic foods are guilty for everything.. :))

[@danielaquacinella1567]

I find this sort of rotoscope filter super annoying. I wish I could view this interview without this filter. Do you know if the original footage is available?

[@guillermoallen2]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJW5gpeondNoqpY&ab_channel=ScienceandNonduality

[@Magik1369]

There is joy in being Nothing...that is in being No thing. This is because we are not merely objects as society and culture condition us to believe, we are subjects...we are Being itself. Yet, we are individuating and evolving Soul entities...so we are indeed somebody. Every Soul is a Sacred expression of the Divine. Our Sacred Selfhood and personhood must be honored and integrated. This is the path of Soul Realization. One is a sacred Individual entity but is not separated from the Whole. We exist and have our Being in Being itself. This is the non dual realization. The biggest error and mistake I see on KZbin and internet forums is the spiritual bypass. People go for a merely mental representation and understanding of non dual states of consciousness, before they do the decades long, arduous work of integrating and unifying at the Soul level. The spiritual bypass is a delusion. There is the One and the Many and together they are the Absolute Oneness.

[@mementomori5374]

Youre also not an subject

[@estafarr]

What is, what is - there is nothing but acceptance

[@hermansohier7643]

The only good thing about seeking is that at one point you have enough of it and you let the whole spiritual world for what it is namely BS .

[@generyan4043]

Thought it was Bill Murray in the thumbnail

[@lukapesun]

outro music WAAAY TOO LOUD

[@andofeverything]

Thank you for your honest feedback. I will redo it for future videos

[@christinaforras]

Haha I am glad i came to this comment just before the end so I could turn the volume down 😆🙏🏻

[@thepolymathacademy4891]

Bit over the top i think, as everything has a certain energetic quality, that's why you can separate the lambo from the marmalade, and evolutionarily without your effort you interpret many things male & female for example, and the same with dreaming, & the same with looking at an object you have to create a narrative of its use to use it, so i think this has some truth but mostly beliving a truth but a un flavoured truth thats therefore not the full truth as it excludes many wonders of mind in an aware diet & fashion, so without these others beautys of mind it comes off as a self perpetuating delusion of truth that's not in a wholeness of minds possibilities that is neglecting the creative faculties, when life is much more Wonderful than excluding all this & engaging is what this is all about just in healthy flavours & appreciations & things you want to correspond with and emerge with, but we don't have to take it to a place where your non relatable to anyone & it's lovely engaging in many fantastic wonders as long as we are aware & oriented before hand and mostly stay in the essence of immediacy but all whilst having a more flavourful atmosphere of thinking, & as well, your instincts are still there without your effort & trying to make the lady laugh is a unconscious longing for reaction to you or laughing is because you want a corresponding energetic response, and so your retreating from engagement which is apart of the great inventive spirit of man and the beautiful extensions of innovations and laws of mind, mind has made, tools of imganation we can use to are advantage. some of this has resonance, but it's mostly over the top & leads to a unhealthy division, as there is little harmonious Connectivity with nature as a corresponding perception of awe and beauty, & a unappealing attitude towards creativity & life and the indulgence of creativity & missing all the juice of life and fun and friendly connections on a human level, without trying to seem all far out, as it comes off as some what morally superior a cockiness of sorts.

[@thepolymathacademy4891]

3:19 - Talks of detachment, but then i would say your way of thinking is much more a detached based thinking than most who allow themselves to indulge but from a awareness of mind as perception & the law of correspondence is known. - yin & yang

[@jamesskinnercouk]

I’ve read and liked what you put, thoughtful.

[@mishaguevara]

IT IS... Infinitus Absolutus

[@palmyracentre4575]

The Nisargadatta Ultimatum Pointers are coming to mind - everybody should also listento them on youtbe! They are such a gift - like this Gentleman is ! Best wishes and much Love to everybody .....

[@andofeverything]

NIssargadatta Maharaj. Yes, thank you for that.

[@johnmc3862]

100%.

[@Vortex6242]

Would someone please provide the name of the person being interviewed? Thanks!

[@guillermoallen2]

Tony Parsons. It's in the description of the video ☺

[@MrRaggarRobban]

This is so true you just can't believe it….The hardest part is that everyone has to tell you who and what you are all the time and they won't accept no... I had to leave everything for that and it was worth it...🧞...There was never any me, but here I am…

[@hansenmarc]

On the next episode of Neo Advaita, M.D. … Billy: Hey Doc, I’m experiencing agonizing pain in my abdomen and a high fever. I’m afraid my appendix has burst. I’m about 20 minutes from the hospital. Should I call an ambulance? Neo: Well, Billy, time and space don’t actually exist. Also, there is no “you” and there’s no free will. So there’s no-thing “you” can do. Things are just apparently happening to no-one. The seeker wants to realize health, but the only thing to realize is that there’s no-thing to realize. Pain and no pain, health and disease, life and death, these are all merely dualistic stories. The whole idea of healthcare procedures is that “you” need to change, and actually it’s a futile process. It’s just about making the prison more comfortable. There’s just this. Oneness is no-thing apparently appearing as everything. What else could it possibly be? … Hello? Billy? Are you still on the line? Hello? On one hand, Neo’s morbidity and mortality rates would go through the roof. On the other hand, his healthcare expenditures would plummet (if you believe in the “story” of cause and effect, that is.) So there’s that. Will Neo get fired, or will he be promoted to director of the hospital? Tune in to find out. 😉

[@sjstone7337]

Who is it that cares?

[@aeaf123]

Infinite is presence. Creation is ever present🙏you lose gurus and spiritual leaders. You lose this world. You favor chaos over order, Ungodliness is nothingness. Love is not nothingness

[@nirodha35]

Tony will never draw a big crowd because 99,99% wants to be great, not to be😉

[@sohara....]

That's what Tony Parsons always says. And those who attend his talks then feel special hahaha

[@barbara5051]

Who is tony parsons

[@19Marc79]

16:03 =>...or fentanyl...or whatever 🤪

[@miket1591]

12:00

[@meditationamsterdam]

I can't help but feel that Tony has done untold damage to people who have reached out and sincerely want to know how this all works, it's a pity. He's right on the diagnosis, but not on the prognosis. The problem of being separate is addressed through integrative practices. It's true that they don't consist of "someone doing something", but that doesn't make them any less effective. Daoism has long understood that enlightenment is a psycho-physical process that can be systematically addressed and cultivated. This is supported now by developmental psychology and neuroscience. No need to create mystery where there is none, or leave people without knowing what to do.

[@andofeverything]

Well said.

[@sohara....]

*So glad someone has made this comment!* I've attended Tony talks in Dublin, for years, he used to come twice a year until there was a falling out with the organisers, I'd go to sleep listening to his DVDS, and read his books. He has huge energy around him, and a mischievous way of talking - all very appealing, and I did gain Some Benefit. But not enough for all the years spent on "neoadvaita", as it is called. I needed emotional healing too. Tony tends to dismiss that kind of thing; it's not part of his life story; but I'm told you can gave lively discussions with him about cars! Expensive cars, I'm guessing ... lol

[@andofeverything]

@@sohara.... Well, from “his” perspective, there is nothing “you” or anyone else can do. If you believe that then there is nothing to do. I believe it to be true based upon my own experience, but at the same time, all of these prominent non-dual teachers were initially obsessed with trying every type of mediation and practice to awaken and I believe they SHOULD emphasize that for others as well. I don’t think that they could have “arrived” at their “enlightenment” without first having made considerable effort, however illusory the effort of the ego ultimately is. I hope that is helpful.

[@meditationamsterdam]

Indeed. Part of the challenge is that your conscious mind is not privy to the processes triggered by the practice. So asking Tony what to do for enlightenment is like asking a flower how to bloom. It doesn't know and why should it :)

[@carlwhiteloves]

We are all where we are. If it lands, great. If it doesn’t land, oh well.

[@MrAlliswell88]

There is no Tony "living in a state"!

[@andofeverything]

Thanks for commenting, it really helps,

[@MrAlliswell88]

The suggestion is... You seem to have missed the core message. There is no "ego state">>> there is no I/me/you/ego, and never was:)

[@Marcus-zu6fe]

Alot of assumptions...and abit of a know it all...

[@amorfati9163]

Brahman

[@clodhopper-dodo]

Then why are you trying to be SOMEBODY by uploading the video? You are losing your joy of being NOBODY

[@andofeverything]

Good question. He claims HE doesn’t conduct workshops because there is no person there to conduct them.

[@clodhopper-dodo]

@@andofeverything thank you, Nobody read your reply.

[@weerobot]

???

[@andofeverything]

???

[@David-pv4yl]

Non-duality is a myth! You cannot avoid separation: duality; we live in a world of opposites, so the lofty ideas of ‘Oneness’ or the ‘Absolute’ that came from the warped thinking of the ancient ‘acid heads’, is a total and complete oxymoron in terms! A graduated psychologist would simply be reminded of this as being another form of dissociation from the harsh and often brutal realities of living.

[@andofeverything]

Thanks for your thoughtful reply. You may be right. You may also be wrong. It may not be realizable, and yet it is undeniable. There is nothing you can do to achieve unity, nor nothing you can do to not be in unity. Everything you are was inherited from someone or somewhere else. The idea that a seperate you exists is subtle but obvious. You need a man like this to remind you of that. But again, in fairness to your point, you may be right.

[@grahamtrave1709]

Juat talks in riddles and contradicts himself endlessly. Ramesh Balsekar explains things clearly through his concepts.

[@andofeverything]

Sorry you don’t care for his style. He is not my favorite of non-dual teachers, but enjoy watching his presentation. I will check out Ramesh Balsekar, thanks for that.

[@BrentARJ]

You can't talk about what is without contradiction. The biggest tell that someone is speaking falsely is that they're making perfect sense.

[@sjstone7337]

I think you're missing something which is everything.

[@St.Raphael...]

Nihilism is not a virtue…

[@andofeverything]

I agree. I beg to suggest he is not practicing nihilism, but something else much more sophisticated, yet simple, despite what his language use leads you to conclude. Thank you for commenting. I agree nihilism is not a virtue, but this is something else. See also non-duality.

[@sjstone7337]

This message here is not Nihilism, the message here is boundless joy.

[@aaronloossonaaronloosjr.8630]

God is just a way to remove the weight of your own consciousness

[@andofeverything]

Nice

[@St.Raphael...]

Define God?

[@andofeverything]

@@St.Raphael... Great imperative phrased as an unanswerable question.

[@scottwyckoff5483]

I define God as the mysterious lovely intelligence that gives me my breath and heartbeat

[@aaronloossonaaronloosjr.8630]

@@scottwyckoff5483 I define God as the feeling after a big poop

[@Mr.Zen_73]

you are too attached to emptiness.

[@andofeverything]

Yeah, that can happen too.

[@DonTrump-sv1si]

The patients are running the asylum

[@andofeverything]

If you are new to this, I suggest reading up on non-dual traditions, of which there are several. It is not a pre-egoic regression(which would be a problem), but a trans-egoic progression. Understand the difference.

[@DonTrump-sv1si]

@@andofeverything I can slam dunk a basketball

[@andofeverything]

@@DonTrump-sv1si With the utmost sincerity, good for you.

[@fur1na__1]

This message is not useful at all to the person and may even be dangerous....the person can do self inquiry (of course in the absolute the reality do it) and see hos reality as being (before thoughs , feelings , space and time)...this apparent process weken the person and eventually the reality of the person I AM mergile with I AM presense in objectsand walla no more person only This non personal reality of concicness / beeing /god / livness/ presents

[@raduioan6619]

I hope you know Tony is not "enlightened", his enlightenment is "of the mind" and not of the body, it is not real enlightenment. All modern teachers you see online are fake, not even one of them is truly enlightened. If you wanna find one true enlightened human, look UG Krishnamurti and read the books about him.

[@andofeverything]

Interesting. Perhaps you are correct. Perhaps you are incorrect. Firstly, would you say Alan Watts was enlightened? Or is he fake? Secondly, since you have made such an authoritative statement, how would you know?

[@raduioan6619]

@@andofeverything No, Alan Watts wasn't. Ramana Maharshi, Anandamayi Ma, Sri Rama Krishna and UG Krishnamurti, they were true... And many ancient Christin Saints or hindus... The real ones all had physical changes.. The "oneness" Tony is speaking of happened to UG Krishnamurti long before the real enlightenment, when the body went through real, clinical death and then came back to life. He had physical changes all over his body, the glands (chakras) were visible as swallows on his body You can read the book "the mystique of enlightenment" UG Krishnamurti Not Jiddu, but UG, they are 2 different persons. If you ask me, the most complete truth is in Christianity. I ve been through all.. Hinduism, buddhism...Pure Ancient orthodox Christianity is the real deal... But I learned a lot from hindu sages also.. Like ramana maharshi, sri rama krishna, ug krishnamurti, anandamayi ma...

[@goych]

How can you possibly know? Who ultimately cares? I’d focus on yourself personally since you’re the one with the suffering! Or not

[@RavenRaven-se6lr]

So let’s dum down Education and the Education system. take out self learning. Your an empty vessel then!

[@lmansur1000]

Not very helpful