The KAK Down Vent Bolt Carrier Group-Does it Reduce Gas to the Shooters Face?

[@rossearles4333]

You should grab a dead kitten mic cover for wind when your outside. Great info as always, sir! Thanks!

[@Del_S]

"Hey imma talk now" Wind: *No*

[@ecobasetech4558]

I was coming here to make a similar comment. Can't hear what he is saying over the wind!

[@EastCoastMan603]

KAK is doing alot of interesting stuff. Very cool Chris.

[@theduck17]

Glad you decided to take a look at these. I mentioned these to you 6 months ago and you were very adamant about not reviewing these, but now that you have I'm happy you did since I trust your reviews more than others. Looking forward to seeing how these perform over time. KAK makes good parts...I use a lot of their 9mm AR parts as well, they always seem to be trying new things out, which a lot of other manufacturers don't really try to do.

[@nickdevault5717]

Why didn't he want to review them before?

[@theduck17]

@@nickdevault5717 he addressed this in his video, but it was primarily because gas was venting into the magazine and he thought that was a terrible idea. But as he said in his video, the cartridge gets ejected anyways so the fouling doesn't become an issue. Hop tested this with standard BCG, KAKs downward venting and used a suppressor and brand new magazines and when he laid the brass side by side determined it wasn't an issue as well.

[@grantdesrosiers]

I think the down venting BCG and the Riflespeed AGB are some of the biggest advancements for the AR-15 a long time.

[@evanf7334]

Nah chief flow through suppressors take the cake

[@mp15a]

It Alway's Looks Like You're Shooting in a Hurricane! Thanks Brother!

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Welcome to Texas

[@banzai70]

@@SmallArmsSolutions Chris do u think you’ll have a final verdict on putting these in your rifle of choice by the end of the year?

[@IWSFODD]

As i think through this , i am wondering about 2 things: - the hot gas vented down probably not good for any polymer-feeding-lip like the PMAG. While the polymer that get used for PMAG is probably very high-temp resistant, but i would have to imagine that it can get hot quick with constant gas vented directly down like that and I don't know if those polymer mag were ever designed to accommodate for stuffs like this (but then they are only about 30 rounds or so , probably not enough time to get those to extreme temp) - I would be very curious to see the strip-down magazine (with followers, springs and baseplate all out) to see how dirtier it could get since the mag is still not a "sealed" system. Smaller particles can still get through the gaps between round casing and the followers, especially at higher pressure). The use of this vent-down might require more magazine maintenance than normal. EDIT: a 3rd thing: - Since the fouling now is on the casing, and it will then be inserted back to the barrel. I wonder what the long-term consequences of this as it might make your feed-ramp and barrel... "dirtier".

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

The gas has absolutely no negative effects on the polymer magazines. I fired full auto on several of these mags. The magazine NEVER gets hot enough in 30 to have any effect whatsoever. In fact, I dont even think a 65-rd drop would even heat up the feedlips at all. There is no long term effect on the cartridges, magazines or the rifle. You just don’t build up that much heat. I have disassembled magazines, I see no difference. In fact a magazine that is used with a suppressor has far more fouling than the downward vent carrier. I was very skeptical on this product TBH. Then I used it and examined it. My suspicions i originally had were found to be baseless.

[@IWSFODD]

@@SmallArmsSolutions I wonder if the fact that there is a constant high-pressure downward on each round also ... "blow away" any of the previous fouling. I'm still somewhat skeptical of the long-term fouling accumulation in the mag beneath the followers though. Hopefully you would be able to have a follow-up on this in several months!

[@DogeMcLovin]

​@@IWSFODD I think PMAGs will withstand a fair amount of fouling due to the polymer body and follower having good lubricity against one another. At most maybe a courtesy brush/wipe after a few hundred rounds!

[@blantant]

​@@SmallArmsSolutionsinteresting! Thanks for the thorough response

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

I do not believe there would ever be fouling that would be enough to effect the reliability of the magazine. KAK has done internal testing for this specific question and came up with no problem. I truly do not expect you would use one magazine over enough for it to even start becoming a concern.

[@koffeekage]

KAK makes a 1:7 dissipator barrel that ive been looking at.

[@KevinWood44]

How cool is this??? Every AR manufacturer has been looking to squeeze out any little advantage for the last 6+ decades....and someone found a new way to innovate to keep making the rifle better. Very cool. I really believe someday the AR platform will get very close to the accuracy of the bolt action rifle

[@somethintoviewwithyou2876]

Thank you Chris! I’ve been waiting for this. KAK has some very innovative ideas 💡

[@killacamfoo]

I have one, was way out of spec. Sent it back, got another in NP3 and it still is out of spec slightly but runs in the upper I wanted it in kinda. Very disappointed in KAK, good concept though and does what it says it will if it is in spec.

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

The one took a lot of lube on the inside and about 60 rounds to break in. But after that it ran flawless. They are on the tight end of the tolerances from the two I have seen. Of course , i just have chrome.

[@danielhess39]

Great review! Thank you as always!

[@dazbag]

Best part of the Video: 5:04 min . That Forward Assist. How dare you, to use it

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

This carrier was brand new. Very stiff. It needed a magazine or two to break in. You would not find a military grade (Colt, FN) that would be this tight.

[@twac750]

@@SmallArmsSolutions He got you on that one 😂

[@timrobinson6573]

​@@SmallArmsSolutionsyea but it's nice to have just incase

[@sigspearthumb1056]

I’ve been waiting for this video since I first came across the KAK Down vent. BCG

[@hopewilliams6705]

I have been thinking about getting one of the regular chrome carriers appreciate the information!!

[@GriffXJ]

I have an 11.3" AR that im running a B&T Rotex X suppressor on, it's gassy as all hell even with an H3 Super 42 buffer. I'm getting ~2 o'clock ejection, but this carrier might actually fix all of my issues. Thanks for the review!

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

You need an adjustable gas system like a Riflespeed. You should never need an H3 buffer unless you have a massively heavy barrel.

[@oldscratch3535]

You're not actually fixing the gas issue. Put an adjustable gas block on it and use an H or H2 buffer. This carrier will do nothing for you until you do that.

[@illestdomer2005]

@@TheRepublicHasBeenLostbootleg is the quickest fix, but an AGB like RS is better. Cut that gas out before it even gets to the BCG! Once you start adding up heavy buffers and Bootleg BCGs, RS pays for itself.

[@GriffXJ]

​​@@SmallArmsSolutions I'm considering that for my next upper build. The Riflespeed won't work for my setup, using a BCM MCMR 10 on an 11.3" BA Hanson. For me to run a Riflespeed on this setup, I'd need to replace the handguard since they don't offer one that fits my combo, if I'm going that far I'll just build a new upper. I considered a Superlative AGB, Wojtek AGB, or a simple BRT EZ-TUNE...but I'm not looking forward to beating that BCM handguard off, even with heat we struggled to get it on. I just had this same gun out to the range again with a different charging handle. It's not blowing nearly as much gas in my face now. I double checked the ejection pattern and it's closer to 3-3:30 for a majority of the casings, there's an occasional handful that get kicked more towards 2. Not sure what changed, since it's the same ammo as last time (same exact can of Lake City M855). I'm wondering if the last time I checked I just happened to be seeing only those occasional 2 o'clock ejected casings. The only part changed was a charging handle, which obviously wouldn't change ejection. As far as the H3 goes, that's what was recommended by Geissele for the Super 42 running suppressed on an 11" barrel, hence why I selected that option.

[@terryfaugno9242]

The only issue I can think of with the downward venting BCG might be you need to pay extra attention to the magazine well when you're cleaning the rifle to clear away carbon residue, though it sounds like it might take multiple range trips or weeks/months of regular use in an LE application before any negative effects start to manifest.

[@JohnBrowningsGhost]

You wont see a difference whatsoever in a suppressed rifle.

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

There was far less than a standard carrier firing a can

[@chrischiampo7647]

Thanks Chris and Heather Great Video as Always Interesting Concept On The Carriers 😀😊😊😀

[@Tim798Bran]

Works great with the wind to your back as well

[@code_red7744]

Just got mine yesterday and hopefully l get to try it out this evening

[@petesheppard1709]

Some really creative thinking there! That is a nice option, but for most shooters a flow-through can may be the best value. ALSO, as far as gas venting, I noticed you got a lot of crud on your trigger finger. Was that downward venting gas getting into the trigger area and down onto your finger?

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

No, that crud was from firing suppressed guns all day. Nothing to do with the downward vent

[@petesheppard1709]

@@SmallArmsSolutions Ah. Thanks!

[@robertmccollum6362]

Good info like always.

[@Thomas-yw9eo]

Inhaling gas while firing at a target, I found, often distracting and adversely affected my accuracy. That BCG is also a healthier alternative.

[@adamrodgers2377]

Thanks for testing this I have been thinking about trying one myself.

[@scott2228]

I have one and prefer the Bootleg adj BCG. Helps with some gas and softens recoil.

[@MrSLF]

Thank you. 👍

[@beefbigshot8789]

My concern with this is that removing those side vents will depreciate the reliability in muddy conditions like with external pistol ARs that function similarly with no side gas ports. Until I see that it doesnt effect reliability under muddy conditions, its a no-go for me sadly

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

This is an argument, it puts it on par with a HK416 or any external piston system. But you really have to ask yourself how critical this condition is for you. If you have your port cover closed, this really would not matter. But again, realistically, every non AR based combat rifle in the world works in this way.

[@xusmico187]

has to dirty the mag but love the HC and sand cuts

[@BillMcGirr]

Interesting video. Good stuff.👍

[@Mjdeben]

Did i just see Mr. Bartocci use the Forward Assist at 5:03?!

[@JamesSmith-km2kl]

Please do a follow-up video

[@NeilJason-fo6kb]

Now I know why Estonian Army ordered External piston AR.

[@elbryan9]

Having watched InrangeTV's various mud tests and Grarand Thumb's mud tests, I've become a fan of those side venting gas ports on bcg's as that gas pressure will blow any sort of fouling away from the ejection port; even heavily caked on mud. Firearms that don't have this feature (like the venerable AK-47 and its legendary reliability), tend to jam as a consequence. So moving those vents down toward the magazine well seems like it would reduce the reliability of the AR platform some. While downward venting bcg's certainly have some benefits, it also has some drawbacks as well. 6 to one, half a dozen to the other? Your milage may vary, but it's something to consider.

[@donwyoming1936]

As someone who doesn't run a can, in full or semi auto, I'll keep the standard bolt carrier design. Clearing that ejection port every shot is a bonus feature.

[@georgewhitworth9742]

A good consideration. I think the normal side vents are more useful for mostly non-supressed builds, while these would be good for dedicated suppresed builds, if one desires.

[@illestdomer2005]

@@donwyoming1936I see this as 100% for folks introducing backpressure with a can. That said, it still seems like the vast majority of blowback is. It even from overgassed barrels, but baffle stack pressure that sends the gas back down the barrel and into the receiver with the ejection port as the path of least resistance.

[@TheOtherFagola]

Gotta get LMT on that dual ejector shizz. FRT triggers are legal now. I just gotta be able to afford an LMT bolt.

[@roberttaylor7451]

I always love your work and I know you can’t predict the weather but doing this on a day that windy kinda skews the results.

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Was the only day available.

[@AA-yx2kf]

Hehhee he said Kak!

[@WeaponizedAutismiii]

Any trouble with the gasses deforming mags at all due to heat?

[@Gort-zs5ph]

Great show, the wind made field audio inaudible for the most part. Good content though.

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Best we could do under the circumstances

[@SOG487]

I work at a range the demand for wolf and people I see shooting it is almost 0

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Yup. It’s been drying up. Becoming extinct.

[@anan0moose]

How does the downward venting affect the long term reliability of the magazine?

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Has no effect at all. My testing showed far less debris than when firing with a suppressor.

[@samcshooting]

what about fowling which could lead to failure of the magazine itself?

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

No, it does not exist. I took apart magazines. There is no time to accrue it.

[@samcshooting]

@@SmallArmsSolutions one magazine, fire 30, reload the same mag on a continuous cycle for 1k. i dont believe it will not fail

[@AnthonyD1986]

Would you take this over the LMT or Geissele enhanced bcg?

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

This accomplishes different tasks compared to LMT and Geisselle. KAK shines for suppressor use. LMT still best for durability

[@watchonjar]

im starting to think he likes chrome

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

I do.

[@theduck17]

He's the reason I ended up with a Chrome BCG for my build LoL.

[@ortiz11039]

There has to be extra fouling going into the trigger components. That grinds my gears.

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

No, there is not. The gas is vented in front of the trigger. You get far more fouling from a standard carrier firing suppress than this does.

[@Alexanderofthe9th]

Would you consider KAK products to be comparable quality to BCM?

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

it sure. I have no experience with BCM parts. They wont send me anything to review. I do know BCM subcontracts parts, KAK builds theirs in house.

[@alexisdetocqueville9964]

If you run suppressed a lot, and ESPECIALLY if you add in something that vents even more gas into the mag, make it a habit to periodically run a CLP soaked rag up and down inside the magazine to clean out some of the fouling. I've encountered regular malfunctions from fouled up mags - generally the bullet wouldn't come out of the feed lip before bolt came forward, and the bullet ended up jammed into the casing and not feeding. This was immediately solved with a quick cleaning. With that said, I'm looking forward to trying this carrier.

[@SuspiciousGanymede]

Any issues with fouling on unfired cartridges? I would think the chamber would get dirtier and require more extractor tension.

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Not unless I am using a can. The downward vent has nothing to do with that.

[@Inflorescensse]

Superlative arms blow off gas valve. Even at 800rpm supressed. NO GAS in face, and brass is as clean as shooting unsupressed.

[@craesh1001]

I’ve looked in to ways to contact you but it appears there isn’t one with the website and Facebook doesn’t show your page. Long story short, I have a Barrett Rec10 and didn’t know if I could send it to you to review?

[@humanbass]

A down vent bcg could allow for better DI bullpups.

[@BeniBen]

no accumulation on t he cartridge's itself as it is feeding but what about the carbon built up on the magazine itself ?

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

There was none. It has no time to accumulate. I showed the magazine after i shot a full auto mag.

[@777Raze]

This BCG VS the bootleg Adjustable BCG

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Two different designs. The bootleg adjusts how much gas enters the carrier. The KAK redirects the gas downward.

[@1903tx]

Do sand cuts ever increase wear on the inside of the upper?

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

No, they are not on wear points

[@scaldedape6213]

They also make one that has the NP3 coating, which im looking to buy soon. I bought a few of their bolts and put them in my AR's and they've been great. Consistent 3 o'clock ejection is nice to have.

[@paowerhouse92]

4:28 Are you using your fancy monolithic upper Colt for this demonstration?

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

No, it’s a Centurion upper with a 14.5 in midlength gas system and a CM4 rail

[@nickloven6728]

So weird. I've literally only heard about this thing today, and now people are dropping new vids about them.

[@DDD-yu6ri]

Did this increase fouling in the trigger area?

[@flopus7]

I doubt it would do much. It shouldn't be venting once the carrier is in the rear.

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Not at all. The vents are in the mag well. I did not see any increase in fouling. I could not wrap my head around the concept until i shot and saw the results.

[@Mrgunsngear]

🇺🇸

[@hairydogstail]

Sand cuts should not be machined on the exposed part of the ejection port side of the carrier..These cuts will allow more ingress compared to a standard set of rails....

[@Frens03]

Great..! Now the AR haters are correct… “the AR poops where it eats” 😮

[@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595]

Doesn’t matter.

[@georgewhitworth9742]

Not that really mattered anyway...

[@AKlover]

I'm considering ordering one and I do NOT own A suppressor

[@johnadams673]

Clown move

[@nickloven6728]

May I ask why? The side port vents on a DI when Unsuppressed isn't noticeable at all, even on sbr's. It's actually a smart idea having them vent out to the side. This way, it blows away any debris like mud covering the ejection port before unlocking and letting it get into the system. This is one of the reasons why the AR is so reliable in combat conditions.

[@TheRepublicHasBeenLost]

​@@nickloven6728 All these meme parts are for city shooting. The AR15 (m16)was tested in Vietnam. Nothing short of abusing the AR platform and it will perform. Modern coatings are great though. However Stoner gave us a great and simple design.

[@AKlover]

@@nickloven6728 Chromed and dual extractor. How many spare carriers do you have laying around, I LIKE having spares,

[@errortaptoretry6019]

It might be silly but I want to try it myself and see if there’s any difference.

[@agoogleaccount2861]

Does it increase dirt inside the gun and dirt in the magazine ? I don't know if I like that.

[@msquared9605]

No, the ar15 is not a sand blaster

[@timrobinson6573]

​@@msquared9605It's not? Then I have to return mine. Do you know where I can buy a sand blaster for concrete resurfacing?

[@msquared9605]

@@timrobinson6573 yeah any ar15 from the gun shop should do the trick

[@refuztosay9454]

wtf dude - luv ya - but please spend $19 and fix your wind noise problem. This is unacceptable for an armorer channel that focuses on product defects and the remedies. You know this makes the audio irritating as all hell for your viewers yet you can’t be bothered with an easy solution that’s widely available or doing a voice over to make it so we can understand the content you have on offer. So - really like your channel, and appreciate the effort and value of your enormous knowledge of firearms - but it’s disrespectful to put substandard content out and expect us to not hold you accountable.

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Well, if you’re willing to donate a new microphone to us, we would be thrilled. Considering the last 4 videos we posted have no monetization and not a dime, We are doing the best we can.

[@lordhellfire153]

I'm curious if you think there's merit to using this carrier, but with the LMT enhanced bolt, or is it too early to make such a decision.

[@jb7483]

My lmt enhanced bcg hates My rc2 suppressor.

[@lordhellfire153]

@@jb7483 are you getting problems like what Chris mentioned early in the video?

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

The carrier can be used with any bolt. The LMT Enhanced carrier serves a different purpose with emphasis in being on dwelling time by alteration of the cam path. So the carriers are very diffrent. You technically could machine the Enhanced cam track into a downward vent carrier if you wanted. However, the LMT Enhanced carrier may not work in some conditions (barrel length, gas port size on full auto). The Enhanced carrrier was designed specifically for the US M4A1 carbine with 14.5-in bbl with carbine gas system with specific gas port size and M855 ammo.

[@lordhellfire153]

@@SmallArmsSolutions I ask because I think I remember you saying you've put the LMT enhanced bolt in several of your ARs

[@MrLahey69]

​@@SmallArmsSolutions so is there any benefit to using a LMT enhanced carrier on say, a LMT mrp 14.5, baffle supressor, midlength gas system shooting mk262? reason i ask is, with my lmt, EBCG, and a suppressor im having NO last round hold open with brownells and OKAY magazines (gen 3 pmags lock back). take the supressor off and it locks back on the last round. so this tells the me the cyclic rate is too high with suppressor, as the EBCG is out running the magazine spring. i tried a standard colt BCG and it locked back. gun specs LMT MRP 14.5 midlentgh EBCG standard carbine spring H2 buffer shooting mk262 and full power m193

[@Secret_Squirrel1]

Comment.

[@scott2228]

I mostly shoot suppressed. I have one of those down vent KAK Bolt carriers. It’s now in a box of spare parts. I ran it against the Bootleg adj BCG and enjoyed the adjustable BCG better.

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Two different carriers doing two different jobs

[@NickBlazer-cf1vs]

KAK makes really nice stuff. I can’t imagine this not being good. It does seem like a strange concept though.

[@devereuxbirdzell]

Love the videos! Maybe get one of those mics that is resistant to the wind? It made the audio really hard to hear.

[@ASqdrnDA]

Maybe put a sock on it, could help.

[@twac750]

Thanks. Was this with 7.62 or 5.56? Also in your experience when shooting .762 suppressed on let’s say your LMT Mars-H how many rounds are you able to shoot before you need to clean the weapon? I’m asking when shooting with their BCG not the one highlighted in this video. Though I think the LMT enhanced BCG along with the features this BCG has would be very useful. Thank you sir!

[@migdig8756]

556

[@paulwiggins183]

Wish you would get some help with production of these videos.

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Heather does a very good job. We make the best videos possible with the equipment we have. Most of these videos are not even monetized. You have to have money to buy better equipment. KZbin has seen to it we cant make money.

[@timewave02012]

When will manufacturers stop tuning guns for ammo that's been banned from import since 2021?

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Wolf is still available and in use. I expect another year or so before it really starts to dry up

[@александрбова-з9г]

Newest solution for non-existing problem.Gas to face?Use brass catcher to deflect gas downward.And dont use double base powder for 223 Rem reloading if you dont want excessive smoke and fouling.

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

The brass deflector does nothing for gas on the 5.56 rifle.

[@DocMitchell69]

What? 😂

[@александрбова-з9г]

​@@SmallArmsSolutions Really?So...I shoot Colt Competition+Ace ultra sound moderator (buffle type,of course) + Caldwell brass catcher (simple wire+cordura+net type) and never expirience any "gas to face". Do i go wrong way?😀

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

The fired cartridge case deflector does nothing to mitigate gas. I have fired many suppressed rifles, many internal piston AR’s. The only way to mitigate gas is the use of a reverse flow can. Standard baffle cans over pressure and blow gas out the port and out the back to receivers. Some charging handles (Pri Gasbuster and Silencerco will assist in preventing as much gas from escaping the rear. Pure mechanics. Even external piton guns will get gas as well, just not as much. Suppressors cause over pressure and it comes back out of the chamber. Thats clearly seen on fired cartridge cases. Unsuppressed they are clean, suppressed they are blackish.

[@JoseNunya]

Had to quit the video. To much wind noise.

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

The day was brutal out there. Immediately following a major storm.

[@duroisgawd]

BS ACCESSORY

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Have you tried it? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@lefunnyN1]

a bit silly

[@johnadams673]

Saying internal piston is such a douche nozzle thing.

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

It’s what it actually is if you understand engineering and mechanics.

[@johnadams673]

@SmallArmsSolutions I understand that but that system is far more widely known as DI. It's like kleenex, it's not the correct term most times but it's the one everyone goes by

[@daa3417]

Crying about it is even worse

[@DogeMcLovin]

@@johnadams673 Look at the patent and try to find where it says direct impingement (it doesn't)

[@ninjagold9244]

There's enough space in the world to be technically accurate as well as using colloquials. If there is a lack of clarity, you can always ask. No reason to decry it as elitism.

[@MrLahey69]

@SmallArmsSolutions so is there any benefit to using a LMT enhanced carrier on say, a LMT mrp 14.5, baffle supressor, midlength gas system shooting mk262? reason i ask is, with my lmt, EBCG, and a suppressor im having NO last round hold open with brownells and OKAY magazines (gen 3 pmags lock back). take the supressor off and it locks back on the last round. so this tells the me the cyclic rate is too high with suppressor, as the EBCG is out running the magazine spring. i tried a standard colt BCG and it locked back. gun specs LMT MRP 14.5 midlentgh EBCG standard carbine spring H2 buffer shooting mk262 and full power m193

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Yes, you would benefit from the Enahnced BCG. If fact that is about the exact criteria which it was designed.

[@ericshurtz4901]

While the rounds may not have enough time to accumulate fouling the magazines do! so you're going to have to definitely be cleaning your magazines way more with those downward ejecting gases and while I like the idea that they're doing the problem is magazines are the number one fail point for firearms so now adding even more fouling and more chances for the magazines to fail is not necessarily a very good idea!

[@StephenRWilliams]

I'd also be concerned about fouling in the magazine release as well. But if you're using one of these you're probably shooting suppressed and you should be a little more fastidious about cleaning your weapon overall anyway.

[@ericshurtz4901]

@@StephenRWilliams I agree 👍

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

I did not have any increased fouling in the magazines. You really need to try for yourself. I had a problem with the concept at first. Actually shooting, the results were very different from what i had expected.

[@EdwardSnortin]

What if I like the gas in my face?

[@SuspiciousGanymede]

Mmmm, increased blood lead levels 😜

[@oldscratch3535]

Then I'd say you haven't spent any time shooting suppressed full auto guns.