The Key83: a cloth pad so good that i might not need glass pads anymore.

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pingu

pingu

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@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
there will be more content fairly soon :> i have another video that's essentially done about my least favorite mousepad that's come out recently (or ever), and i'd really like to talk about the htx mini soon. thank u for watching!! and again, if you are looking for the speed of a glasspad from a cloth pad, this is probably not the pad for you. it's fast, but you'd probably want to look into things like the shidenkai, raiden, fnatic jet, egg mpc, vancer ace, etc.
@pingu4755
@pingu4755 2 күн бұрын
htx mini, yaaaay :)
@handicapschoner2654
@handicapschoner2654 2 күн бұрын
If its the hien im sending a handwritten veto-letter >:(
@sp00der23
@sp00der23 2 күн бұрын
meow :3
@Senroux
@Senroux 2 күн бұрын
yippie
@twpsyn
@twpsyn 2 күн бұрын
a cloth pad would have to be exceedingly good to get me to switch from glass. mainly due to the non gameplay related aspects of living with glass, like the fact that the pad doesn't wear down over time, doesn't lose speed with cleaning and maintenance is so much much easier to the point that I can fully clean the pad to get that "like new" feeling literally 5 minutes before a scrim, etc. edit: also with glass speed doesn't vary with humidity
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
quite fair, i imagine humidity must be pretty annoying where you live too. while i agree that glass pads are objectively better in terms of durability, i think cloth slowing down is a bit of an overblown issue. if you main glass you'll experience slowdown in the form of skate wear too, but you don't really notice bc it's so gradual. it's cheaper to replace skates, but it still does mandate replacing them fairly often if you want that "like-new" speed again. while day to day variations are more common with cloth, you will adapt to them subconsciously. unless you live a really humid environment, i don't think the "glass will be the same experience every single time you play" has that much practical benefit.
@twpsyn
@twpsyn 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefied yeah it definitely made me more picky when it came to buying my first pad here when I got back into gaming during covid, I knew I'd have a miserable time if I just went and bought another steelseries qck heavy lol. in the end I went with a zowie gtfx which I honestly loved and I wish more people knew about it and sung it's praises, was a really nice middleground between cloth/hardpads where the mouse didn't dig into the surface much with a lot of pressure. eventually it developed slow spots with frequent use and multiple cleans after ~3 years though
@twpsyn
@twpsyn Күн бұрын
@@pinguefied to be fair I've never used a cloth pad with a sleeve, might just be the case that day to day variations on cloth are less noticeable with a decent sleeve mitigating that also wrt skate wear slowing down over time on glass, since that happens on the mouse itself imo it's much more manageable since there are no slow spots on more heavily used portions of the pad. with cloth pads that gets particularly annoying for me since I very rarely change my peripherals unless they wear out to the point of becoming a major annoyance. since ~2011 I've only bought 4 pads total going from a goliathus speed to a qck heavy to the zowie gtfx and then to the skypad 3 (and the only reason I changed from the qck was due to moving to malta and not bringing my PC stuff lol)
@wavy.pueblo
@wavy.pueblo 2 күн бұрын
the quality in this video feels like a main channel video :00 also the shock at 7:30 is so real LOOL
@Ethereal6541
@Ethereal6541 2 күн бұрын
These reviews are some of my favorite youtube videos ngl
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
tysm ❤️
@DumDM1192
@DumDM1192 2 күн бұрын
ai pfp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@m9vanilla
@m9vanilla 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefied nah seriously you need to understand how relaxing your videos are, scripts are amazing keep it up and dont burn out
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
@@m9vanilla i really appreciate that c:
@aaaaaaa7887
@aaaaaaa7887 2 күн бұрын
@@DumDM1192^^
@BalvarineFPS
@BalvarineFPS 2 күн бұрын
this will sound like i'm making it up. i predicted with a friend years ago that a hexagonal shape would solve the consistent friction problem after I saw that famous hexagons are the bestagons video.
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
U might be a soothsayer
@BalvarineFPS
@BalvarineFPS 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefied "I knew you'd say that." -me, as I walk away from the explosion while putting on my sunglasses.
@strafeqt
@strafeqt 2 күн бұрын
Goat stuff, love the nails! I have these reviews downloaded lmao for watching while travelling
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
aw that's sweet ty c:
@RamlilacOCE
@RamlilacOCE 2 күн бұрын
Your video editing style is so beautiful to watch I love your cinematic scripting and soundtrack choice 😭I feel like im watching an actual movie. My Key83 is shipping out soon, this has me so much more excited !!
@wolfyakuza
@wolfyakuza 2 күн бұрын
stop fueling my peripheral problem pingu
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
:3c
@Keeahh
@Keeahh 2 күн бұрын
loved the video! and the pad sounds so tempting :>
@jayd2535
@jayd2535 Күн бұрын
This mother fer has a soothing voice. Great review
@zambz5328
@zambz5328 2 күн бұрын
have you tried vaxee's "pc" pad? it also has a texture i'd describe as hexagonal, as well as a really interesting folded edge instead of regular stitching
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
waow didn't expect to see you here i haven't tried it, but from photos it doesn't look like it has a hexagonal weave like this one. it's interesting that that's how it feels though,, how do u like the folded edge?
@zambz5328
@zambz5328 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefied i've been a fan since ur tf2 video :-D i dont use the pc as after trying it for a couple weeks i realized i only really play my best on slower surfaces like the saturn, hexagonal might not really be the correct term for the pc i guess, but to me it felt very consistent on x/y and has sort of a repeating pattern that u see if u look at it from further away
@zambz5328
@zambz5328 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefied also forgor to type lol the folded edge is really good, i prefer it to even artisan stitching
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
@@zambz5328 that's rly cool!! i wonder if u would be a demon with the type 99, i had to crank my sens up to use it but my initial flicks still felt crazy also i'd love to know how you ended up aiming like you do, did a player inspire you or was it something that came naturally to you? and have you made active efforts to change your style over time? :o
@zambz5328
@zambz5328 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefied i was watching elacour vids before i started playing, so probably some osmosis through that i used to fully fingertip up until like late 2023, switched to claw as fingertipping fucked my wrist up, also slowly lowered my sens from about 10cm/360 when i started to never changing off 29cm/360 now, other than that not really cared about style of aim beyond trying to hit more shots
@FRAIMWORKK
@FRAIMWORKK 2 күн бұрын
I was not expecting that playing on a seal plush toy clip AHAHAH
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
HAHA if i wasn't annoying viscose by laughing hysterically every time i got a kill with the seal, i would've kept grinding until i got an actually good seal clip
@FRAIMWORKK
@FRAIMWORKK 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefied That is actually hilarious, I would not be able to contain my laughter XD
@DawnSentinel
@DawnSentinel 2 күн бұрын
Jesus christ, the bit where you were talking about water on the base of the pad, then you snort and Viscose wheezes in the background got me so good.
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
hahaha
@iMakeMagicHappenn
@iMakeMagicHappenn 2 күн бұрын
Was it viscose who slid the pad under the door!?😭😭
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
yep
@iMakeMagicHappenn
@iMakeMagicHappenn 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefied hahaha
@daveuerk4030
@daveuerk4030 2 күн бұрын
I never thought I would like glass but it improved my aim by around 10%. I think it's because it made me relax my hand so much. I'll have to try this artisian. Thanks man.
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
if that's your use case for glass, this probably won't fit the bill haha
@Bee-lk3du
@Bee-lk3du 2 күн бұрын
can you drop the tf2 crosshair you're using at 0:27? its amazing
@jR0xas
@jR0xas 2 күн бұрын
Tbh as someone who switches between different glass and cloth pads I could say the same for my Hien or any of the pads I own, Hien is just my favourite from Artisan specifically. Never liked the Otsu so I kinda don't even wanna spend money on this one since people have been saying it's like a slightly slower Otsu. Don't feel like my performance is hindered by any surface unless you force me to use some cheap mousepad that gets dead spots in less than 4 weeks.
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
i don't think it's that similar to the otsu in terms of friction balance, but i'm glad you're happy with what u got :D
@jR0xas
@jR0xas 2 күн бұрын
@pinguefied Yeah like it's not exactly an Otsu I know people say it's like in between Zero and Otsu. It's essentially another balanced Artisan pad but I know I don't really want something slower than the Hien anyway and I like the X/Y speed difference. I'm one of those people who likes to try all Artisans but Imma just hold off for now until I get bored.
@pnjnoodz8692
@pnjnoodz8692 2 күн бұрын
Noooooo i just did the full swap to glass and i am in too deep. Dont pull me back to cloth now! Love your videos man keep them coming
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
haha i only became disillusioned with them after 4 years and holding myself to a ridiculous standard for aim (spending too much time watching viscose's gameplay)
@zeththedarkmage
@zeththedarkmage 19 сағат бұрын
Oh no. Your 2 year review of the HSK Pro finally got me to order one(got the BlueWave, pictures don't do it justice, it has glitter in it!). Now I'm considering a new mouse pad. :D
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 18 сағат бұрын
@@zeththedarkmage it's got glitter?? i might have to tap in. you probably should get used to such a strange device before making any other changes to your setup LOL but that said i've kinda been cooking with that combo,,
@Lambo-ux3uh
@Lambo-ux3uh 2 күн бұрын
just a classic banger from pingu. and im not surprised it would be artisan that can make a cloth so good you want to use it over glass
@jilesbraeden
@jilesbraeden 2 күн бұрын
BRO YOU CANNOT KEEP DOING THIS. my bank account cannot keep up with this 😭😭😭😭
@MissColourz
@MissColourz 2 күн бұрын
A good watch outside Aucklands closed airport.
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
i didn't believe u when you said you were cursed in regards to flying, that's crazy
@defiantzzz
@defiantzzz 2 күн бұрын
currrently running an xsoft k83 with artisan dots setup with 2 dots touching on the top 2 corners + 2 dots bottom corners about a dot size apart and this is easily the most unique experience I have gotten from any artisan product / any aim related peripheral ever. The plushness of the xsoft barely slows down speed if at all with this combo and it is a very very odd experience 10/10 recommend trying this out if you want something unique! W Video tho🤝
@cenuuu
@cenuuu 2 күн бұрын
is there an easy way to get artisan dots or do I need to order from jp?
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
not out yet :(
@AfterDark62
@AfterDark62 2 күн бұрын
4:45 xraypad heavy bee?
@allred3ds
@allred3ds Күн бұрын
thats what i was thinking it was the actual first....
@Glenn_wow
@Glenn_wow 9 сағат бұрын
11:10 where do i buy these artisan dots
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 8 сағат бұрын
not out yet sry 😭
@Glenn_wow
@Glenn_wow 8 сағат бұрын
@ pain.. crazy fast response tho ur the goat
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 8 сағат бұрын
@@Glenn_wow hopefully somewhat soon though c: i think they are at their final iteration at least
@soobees.
@soobees. Күн бұрын
Is the soft and mid really that big of a difference in speed ? Mid compared to a soft raiden and soft compared to zero and otsu 😣
@pinguefied
@pinguefied Күн бұрын
it's a pretty huge difference honestly!! more than most artisan pads i'd say
@meokga
@meokga 2 күн бұрын
are artisan dots good for glass?
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
completely incompatible sadly
@Authouy
@Authouy 2 күн бұрын
Really interesting to see you switching back to cloth. Though I do wonder if the trade off of life span is worth it to be able to push your flick speed. I know you mentioned somewhere else that you believe that the slow down of cloth mousepads is overblown however personally my Artisan Hien XSoft developed a mud spot so bad that it made micro adjustments feel impossible. I’m not sure if my experience is a one off case or because I bought an XSoft but yeah, if you do continue to use this mousepad consistently please post an update on the pads condition. Thank you for another interesting review
@TheRodoeht
@TheRodoeht 2 күн бұрын
For me sleeve compatibility has become one of the most important aspects of a cloth pad. That's why I got the puretrak P-51. Its pretty good with my lizard skin sleeve but still not perfect. Interesting video for my use case
@ruumelan
@ruumelan 2 күн бұрын
key-83 with black or white EADALI arm sleeve is the best mousepad + arm sleeve combo I've tried. KIBU arm sleeve are also good according to uNlseashedjp, but KIBU do not have international shipping
@oliverdavidacaster5258
@oliverdavidacaster5258 2 күн бұрын
After using the hayate otsu for a year then trying a skypad 4.0 for 2 weeks I realised I liked faster speed but the 4.0 was too fast and I couldn’t stop, been using the raiden soft for 3 weeks and fell in love perfect balance between fast and stopping for me!
@TheDC-ks3tw
@TheDC-ks3tw Күн бұрын
So I have decided to go to glass for a whole other reason. My main mouse pad is hien but my problem with it is every time I wash it the consistency isn't the same as a new one no matter how good I wash it and you can feel it near the edge of the mousepad.
@yougotpwnd123
@yougotpwnd123 2 күн бұрын
I'm surprised you don't like the Raiden mid more. As someone who's mained glass for years, I find myself switching between glass and the Raiden pretty easy,. I haven't had to many issues with sleeves working on it as well.
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
maybe I'll try it again, i didn't have much luck with my sleeves and it ended up in an awkward speed range for me (i destroyed it with lexips tho, i don't remember what it was like before that). i generally prefer the shidenkai either way
@yougotpwnd123
@yougotpwnd123 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefied The most noticeable difference for me going from glass to the Raiden was my micros. The speed is still really good for target switching and I feel it allows you to stop much easier, I was having trouble with shakey landing and it helped. I've never tried the shidenkai but I've always wanted to!
@Nezdomm
@Nezdomm 2 күн бұрын
how does key83 mid compare to your experience on the zero mid in terms of speed and feel? also love these style of vids, amazing vibes and love listening to them, cheers!
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
sorta similar! both very balanced but the zero is definitely slower. it's been quite a while since I've had access to my zero mid so i can't give you too much more detail than that haha
@Nezdomm
@Nezdomm 2 күн бұрын
@ that’s still great haha, thanks for the reply!
@Hemi790
@Hemi790 Күн бұрын
Have you tried the raiden? Did it ended up feeling sluggish too?
@pinguefied
@pinguefied Күн бұрын
yeah, but i did try to use ceramic skates on it 😭
@GabrielleHavrilyak
@GabrielleHavrilyak 18 сағат бұрын
what was your favorite combination of glides with Key83 Mid?
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 9 сағат бұрын
do you mean skates? artisan dots (not out yet) or jades
@noooooooman
@noooooooman 2 күн бұрын
hey what program do u use for the custom crosshairs?
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
hudsight 2
@xJay_030
@xJay_030 2 күн бұрын
Great Review! I believe there is no perfect pad but looks like this one is close to yours. which game are you playing at 7:20 ?
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
battlefield v
@ramoraid
@ramoraid 2 күн бұрын
I really like the esptiger blaze v3 and i wonder if artisan made something similar or better to it with this new pad.
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
what's it like?
@ramoraid
@ramoraid 2 күн бұрын
@pinguefied a cordura pad with a glaze or resin on, so a fast pad with 80-90% the speed of a glass pad. It has a some foam to it so you can push down if you like. I can easily glide my arm using a sleeve and since I been using dot skates and glass skates on it I get a similar feel to when I use my glass pad.
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
@@ramoraid that's interesting :o thank u for sharing!!
@qfelt_5456
@qfelt_5456 2 күн бұрын
Pingu didn’t forget the shein sleeve👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@aqwek
@aqwek 2 күн бұрын
and I'm waiting for my glass pad to arrive D:
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
dw i still love glass pads, i had to get some bg footage with the skypad 4 the other day and it was rly fun. but i also love the idea of a middle ground and i've been wanting to get better at some cloth specific techniques to see if i can be a bit more well rounded ^^
@aqwek
@aqwek 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefied I've wanted to try out a glass pad for the longest time, but me being broke I've had to ask for it for Christmas. I have only used one other pad. It's years old, and I'm sure it's terrible quality. I'm hoping that a glass pad will help me with my aim, and also with my overall aim experience. Thanks for your videos, it was you and Viscose who got me into aim training, and I am so thankful that I did.
@M3LUZ
@M3LUZ 2 күн бұрын
@@aqwekglass pads are great m8
@eg8568
@eg8568 2 күн бұрын
3:18 - how the hell did you do that with the poron non-slip base? That's actually impressive.
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
the mid ones aren't _that_ sticky haha
@madsnexusboy
@madsnexusboy 2 күн бұрын
Do u use a crosshair overlay? And if u do, is it allowed by AC?
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
i do, i use hudsight. i haven't had troubles with AC but it did feel like it added input delay only in Delta Force. everything else has been fine :o
@madsnexusboy
@madsnexusboy 2 күн бұрын
@ aw man just finished dl for delta force haha - will give it a go anyways, thanks! Enjoy the content, u recently made me switch to hsk pro and a skypad 3.0, loving it so far!
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
@madsnexusboy they're not that useful in delta anyway since it seems like the point of aim is where the crosshair is and that tends to migrate from the center of screen
@Idont1clip
@Idont1clip 2 күн бұрын
I’ve been a glass pad user for a long time and I swapped to the Raiden and the Raiden mid has been my favorite pad out of the 4 Artisan pads do u think this new Artisan pad is better than the Raiden?
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
if speed is what you're after then the raiden is still faster
@Idont1clip
@Idont1clip Күн бұрын
@@pinguefiedoh okay ty
@Idont1clip
@Idont1clip Күн бұрын
@@pinguefiedcould I ask you something it’s kinda a loaded question, I started playing on Pc from console a little over a year ago and aim training as well however over the year I’ve gained extremely bad upper back pain and right arm/shoulder pain while aiming I saw in the video you have more of ur arm on the table and I get told from a lot of videos that’s bad to do I’ve even tried recently looking up ai perfect height for desk and chair for my irl height and just continued pain in my aim journey feels staggered
@pinguefied
@pinguefied Күн бұрын
@@Idont1clip i don't think it's necessarily bad to do and i don't have back issues, but sadly i'm not an expert. i'd need a lot more details to even hazard a guess, and even then it would just be a guess. i'd definitely recommend talking to someone qualified about it
@Idont1clip
@Idont1clip Күн бұрын
@@pinguefiedokay thank you for your time though
@edge_knight
@edge_knight 2 күн бұрын
I've been maining an sp-004 and hsk pro (htx mini and htr pro on the way). An air purifier solves most of glass's grievances, but I'd love to go back and see if cloth can really offer any benefit at this point. btw how do you even get artisan dots?
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
viscose has a bunch bc she has connections to artisan, so i got to steal some. they are not out quite yet though :(
@JakeG97
@JakeG97 2 күн бұрын
Another banger vid! Thanks for posting these. I just got my hsk pro and will be playing on the Key83 mid. Should I get new skates like the jade dots you were talking about or keep the g wolves default skates on?
@thedog5k
@thedog5k 2 күн бұрын
This is wild timing for it to come out today. I just bough an azeron and while im waiting for it, im figuring out my mouse situation ( coming from a g604 and MTG mat for fps games LMFAO). I was thinking about going with a type 99, zero, and a glass pad and just seeing what I like. Maybe in a few years Ill change to the direction I prefer. Is this video anti glass sentiment?
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
no i still love glass! it felt limiting for a few aspects of aim but that only happened after 3 years of maining glass haha i would recommend it if you are interested in the infinite durability, but otherwise the zero soft is a bit safer
@merked1530
@merked1530 2 күн бұрын
Picked up the beast Best pad so far.
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
let's go,,,
@Acooky.
@Acooky. 2 күн бұрын
have you tried the soku fujin? I can't really find a trusted review and most of them contradict eachother. just wondering on if i should just pull the trigger and buy it or go with a safer option
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
nope i haven't tried :(
@Acooky.
@Acooky. 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefied rip :( i'll prob just full send the beast
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
@Acooky. if you're okay with absurd speed then u should :D
@Postwargamer53
@Postwargamer53 2 күн бұрын
totally unrelated, but diabotical is still being played??? might try it again
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
i don't think it's super active outside of a few pug groups, both of my clips were just inviting friends to play :(
@Postwargamer53
@Postwargamer53 Күн бұрын
@@pinguefied Damn, its over
@pinguefied
@pinguefied Күн бұрын
​@@Postwargamer53 their contract with epic is ending soon so it might come to steam and give it a small second wind (copium)
@Postwargamer53
@Postwargamer53 22 сағат бұрын
@@pinguefied That would be nice
@NSeags
@NSeags 2 күн бұрын
Hello 👋 Have you made a video about your split keyboard ? Or would you be able to link the site you got it from.
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
it's called the lily58!! i got mine from ergomech.store/
@NSeags
@NSeags 2 күн бұрын
@pinguefied thank you so much!
@xblur17
@xblur17 2 күн бұрын
It's cool that you found a cloth pad you can enjoy again, and really great video! However, I am concerned with longevity. Pads always feel great in the first 2-6 weeks, and then slowly degrade from there. If you're still on this thing 2-3 months from now, and still find it just as consistent, it will be a miracle for cloth. That's why glass is kind of still king imo. Unless you are ok with buying 4 key 83's every year, I doubt it will ever reach the level of consistency of glass.
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
i don't think cloth wear is _that_ extreme on average, but yeah the infinite durability and surface consistency is something glass is objectively the best at we'll see in a couple months i suppose haha
@carlangasa4622
@carlangasa4622 2 күн бұрын
this is why I'm debating on keeping my glasses pad honestly I think I might even just keep it for daily use and aesthetics and pull out my artisan zero when I play fps
@xRealUzz
@xRealUzz 2 күн бұрын
It doesnt change anything not only mousepad can get cleaned but if you play on a glass pad youre gonna buy new skates every month so 12 skates a year yeah good luck with that and not gonna lie im top 10 in some aimlabs official exercise and i did just as well on my 4 years of use razer gigantus than i do on my brand new artisan zero mid. And im not beaming more than i used to in apex since a one clip is a one clip so i dont know where all that cloth pad wears out so much cuz i kept a pad for 4 years and didnt impact anything i cleaned it every 3 months tho. I also have lamzu maya x and at the end of the day it aint changing much from my superlight or thorn all this stuff is really REALLY superficial. Only thing that really matters is monitor and pc
@ToThinkorNot
@ToThinkorNot 2 күн бұрын
not the first, aqua control 2 has more equal friction between the two. the key 83's y axis is smoother and faster than x
@ViscoseOCE
@ViscoseOCE Күн бұрын
i have both and while the ac2 def has low variance between the two, it isnt better in that regard than the key83 imo its not bad at all in that aspect but it doesnt fill the same niche at all as the key83 and i dont think of it as an alternative
@ToThinkorNot
@ToThinkorNot Күн бұрын
@@ViscoseOCE please explain more, do you mean not better in that regard than the ac2 as in key 83 has a lower x-y variance?
@ViscoseOCE
@ViscoseOCE Күн бұрын
yea, i think the key83 is more consistent across x and y. there is still a difference but not a massive one
@Asortives
@Asortives 2 күн бұрын
pINGU POSTED >.
@crayon7646
@crayon7646 2 күн бұрын
I don't understand how everyone says the Key83 is so good for its directional consistency. I got my Key83 soft and the x-y difference is so noticeable I was extremely disappointed after seeing every other review saying that it's the most directionally consistent cloth pad. Not sure if it's just my copy or the pad's just like this but either way it's just not it
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
maybe it's because you're accustomed to slower y movements and this one is slightly faster y than x, so it feels more substantial? or it could be your copy, idk
@crayon7646
@crayon7646 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefied I just tested a few of my favourite mousepads to compare it with the Key83, the zero soft and venus pro. I tested them by using them normally vs using them 90 degrees flipped. Zero soft had slightly slower X than Y and venus pro had slightly faster X than Y, but in normal use, I don't notice the X-Y difference at all probably because of how the differences aren't as huge. Swapping between the two I also didn't have any problems despite the X-Y speeds being opposite to each other. I came to a conclusion that small X-Y differences in pads aren't as noticeable to me regardless of whether X is faster than Y or vice versa, but the fact that the Key83's X-Y difference is noticeable to me just.. disregards the whole purpose for me to buy this mousepad. This is my experience on the Key83 soft and I am aware that it's not supposed to have 0% X-Y difference and others' experiences could be different, but I just wanted to share my experiences + I had nowhere to vent my disappointment on this pad after hearing so much good things about it. Sorry about that
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
@@crayon7646 i appreciate you sharing your findings :> that's rly disappointing yeah, i wonder why i'm not feeling the same,,
@panda1998x2
@panda1998x2 2 күн бұрын
I relate a lot about having issues with your arm feeling stuck in the mud with cloth. Were you able to find any solutions with your time with a hien? Do you think the mid/soft variants of the key83 can impact sleeve compatibility or the feeling of arm being stuck to the pad?
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
no :( the closest thing i had to a solution was buying a roll of uhmw tape and attaching it to my sweater lmao. the procision was okay on a few cloth pads too i had way more luck with the key83 mid in terms of sleeve compatibility. it might just be the plushness of the soft allowing my arm to press into the pad under pressure and get stuck though
@edge_knight
@edge_knight 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefied I didn't even realize that was you posting gunfire gameplay with clear tape stuck on you in the skypad discord it all makes sense now!
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
@@edge_knight hmm i don't think that was me, but someone might've sent my twitter post about it there
@blackorca32
@blackorca32 2 күн бұрын
thanks for making this review, was gonna buy one soon and this really helped
@daniel8599
@daniel8599 2 күн бұрын
Really cool video, I'm sure I'll watch more of your post but what kind of keyboard are you using? Is that a costum one with swapable switches?
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
yeah it is! the left and right side are separate as well, and columns of keys are staggered instead of the rows
@NiikoKnacko
@NiikoKnacko 20 сағат бұрын
whats the game at 8:05?
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 20 сағат бұрын
gunfire reborn
@mehmetariftasl8277
@mehmetariftasl8277 2 күн бұрын
5:19 what game is this
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
gunfire reborn
@KennyAims
@KennyAims 2 күн бұрын
i havent found another aimer I relate to with these thoughts on glass vs cloth until this video. Glass solved a lot of my same problems, but this pad looks really impressive as someone who sticks constantly. My only concern is still as it is cloth is humidity, im someone who sweats unfortunately :/
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
it's alright with sweat bc of the sleeve, but yeah it's still affected by humidity like any other cloth pad
@LeonidEr
@LeonidEr Күн бұрын
Hey, Pingu. I see you tried Kanami Sai glasspad. It's my main now. I'm still waiting for my Beast preorder. Can you kindly compare them? In terms of speed, control, surface?
@pinguefied
@pinguefied Күн бұрын
i haven't actually used it very much, i'll give it a spin later and let you know
@LeonidEr
@LeonidEr Күн бұрын
@pinguefied ty, excited for ur opinion
@pinguefied
@pinguefied Күн бұрын
my very brief thoughts from extremely insufficient testing (about 5 minutes of gunfire with fresh jades) - i am not a fan of the kanami sai. it is a lot slower than i expected, but not in a way that feels productive? static, dynamic, and even the feel on my arm, it all feels like the pad is fighting my mouse movements in some way. very strange feeling from a glass pad, and i'd need some more time with it to figure out why it feels so sluggish to me, but it's like i'm trying to fight a magnetic force: a constant pull in the opposite direction that makes me really uncertain of all my mouse movements. it is quite smooth though!! it's also a bit smaller than the beast, while being about double the thickness. - the beast is faster, more textured, and more responsive. it lets your mouse control shine though very well, but also showcases all of the inaccuracies in your aim.
@LeonidEr
@LeonidEr Күн бұрын
@@pinguefied Thanks! I replaced with Sai my Razer atlas. And all what u mention about "fighting surface" i was feeling about atlas, lol. Sai for me alot more responsive. Fast and controlled. But i agree with you, sometimes i feel like i want more freedom. That's why o ordered beast. Fun fact, i was compared Kazemi and Sai, and Kazemi was slower and more "fighting surface" for me. But so many ppl called it "best of the best". Huh. Looks like i need to try Sp-004 before my Beast arrive. What do you think, is it better pad, than Kanami Sai?
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 23 сағат бұрын
@@LeonidEr hmm that's strange. I didn't really get that feeling at all from the Kazemi. It has a similar pulling feeling but not at all on my arm or on static friction, which made it a lot more functional for me. maybe it's skate variance or just your preferences, but if you like the sai, don't let me stop you :> the beast will be v interesting for you to try i'm sure, even if you don't end up maining it
@quentonthompson1735
@quentonthompson1735 2 күн бұрын
About to start my glass venture this week, vid was amazing🔥🔥🔥
@therealjbk
@therealjbk 2 күн бұрын
does this clear even the kazemi dont fuel my consumerism
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
it sounds like u love glass as a whole, ur probably chilling
@therealjbk
@therealjbk Күн бұрын
i love consistency and smoothness
@ohxtg
@ohxtg 2 күн бұрын
you sold me on the mouse pad when you said it's directionally consistent
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
i'm very curious how someone who's only used cloth pads will feel abt it haha
@acornskie9930
@acornskie9930 2 күн бұрын
What are your pc specs also have you tried the Glsswrks Hana
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
borrowing a pc atm, it has a 3080 and a 5700x3d
@acornskie9930
@acornskie9930 2 күн бұрын
Cool thanks, if you’ve tried the Hana would you recommend😊
@acornskie9930
@acornskie9930 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefiedwhat are your normal pc specs also have
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
@@acornskie9930 i think a 4070 and 13700k i haven't used the hana sadly :c
@acornskie9930
@acornskie9930 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for replying keep up the great eork
@NarciiFPS
@NarciiFPS 2 күн бұрын
how is the name of the second world war video game in the background? By the way, I purchased The Beast by Tekkusai and I cant wait to have it, first glass mousepad I will have. Could you tell me if you had any issues in micro adjustments? I guess I will suck for a few weeks until I can tame that beast tho @pingu
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
micros were really good with the beast so long as my tension was under control. pretty hard pad to use well but very rewarding! fps is battlefield v
@neprophilia
@neprophilia 2 күн бұрын
might be the first time i actually decide to pull the trigger on an artisan. bought a sp-004 a while back and iv loved it but again there are things iv missed from other cloth pads. great vid :3
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
thank u!!
@neprophilia
@neprophilia 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefied ofc always! always love the gunfire clips mixed in as well
@AusyBoyyy
@AusyBoyyy 2 күн бұрын
4:00 What game is that?
@pinguefy
@pinguefy 2 күн бұрын
gunfire reborn
@headz3436
@headz3436 2 күн бұрын
Hello, could you recommend me a good mousepad (mostly for tracking but still pretty good for flicking) my budget is around 60 to 70€ my mouse is op18k if that change smth
@headz3436
@headz3436 2 күн бұрын
i was thinking about an artisan too
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
leaning towards Raiden, but feel free to give me more preferences and I'll try to narrow the search haha
@headz3436
@headz3436 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefied alr like i said before and can be a big one for keyboard or mouse or a normal id really care not that hard to wash cause ik some take like 1 or 2 days (not really important)but better if possible idc about colors if i can pick single colors and if its only disgned one it probebly is gonna work idc about shiping time (most important not a glass one cause my parents are not in the same house and its hard to moove)
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 23 сағат бұрын
@@headz3436 for tracking typically people will lean towards faster pads as they make directional changes easier, but it's not for everyone. if you think you wouldn't mind that, then i'd recommend the Artisan Raiden Mid or the InfinityMice Speed. The InfinityMice speed fills a pretty similar niche to the raiden but is cheaper and easier to come by. MattyOW has a video on both if you're curious about how they perform!
@headz3436
@headz3436 23 сағат бұрын
@@pinguefied alr tysm ima check them
@user-tt8ln8fm8s
@user-tt8ln8fm8s 2 күн бұрын
best 2 sleeve compatible pads are key83 otsu, would love to see other pad sleeve combos
@Swans99
@Swans99 2 күн бұрын
You might actually make me buy the key83 because of this video
@acornskie9930
@acornskie9930 2 күн бұрын
Sorry for asking all these questions but what glass and fingertip should I get. I love your content
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
what are you looking for out of a glass pad/ftip mouse?
@acornskie9930
@acornskie9930 2 күн бұрын
I don’t mind I’m currently using a shidenkai v2 but speed or control I don’t mind finger tip mice g wolves is all I jnow
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
@@acornskie9930 if you like the shidenkai, i think it offers many of the benefits of glass and escapes a few of the downsides :o given that you've tried some enthusiast pads you should tell me your preferences if you're in the market for a glasspad. and for ftip mice, the hsk pro is still my favorite bc it's the only one (aside from the keychron m4) that's small enough to be very finger driven. are you looking for that kind of pen-like experience or would you prefer a more normally proportioned mouse that gives you room for ftip mobility?
@acornskie9930
@acornskie9930 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefiedI think I’m really looking into Glsswrks and the Beast maybe the Wallhack. But coming down to fingertip mice maybe pen like, if that’s what the Hsk pro is I’m in Australia so I don’t know if that limits things aswell. I also wonder if you still play bf4 and if there are still servers I know you play NA but surely there’s a server in between that has good ping
@acornskie9930
@acornskie9930 2 күн бұрын
If you’re also wondering I’m using a viper mini as my fingertip mouse
@turnerrosser5191
@turnerrosser5191 2 күн бұрын
Killer vid. Been on this glass back to cloth path aswell. Just got hen mid and was like woah. I’ve been on the PMM S1P but that’s a soft base pad but it’s insane
@jaywye
@jaywye 2 күн бұрын
Your aim is insane
@Authouy
@Authouy 2 күн бұрын
3:18 LMAO, did you get Viscose to slide an artisan mousepad under your door? Also how did you get it to slide like that wth
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
yeah i did LOL
@mHI-176
@mHI-176 2 күн бұрын
what games are you playing in the video
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
gunfire reborn, battlefield v, apex legends
@mHI-176
@mHI-176 Күн бұрын
@ thanks
@sylphianna
@sylphianna 2 күн бұрын
The white nails and white sleeves look so cute...
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
tyy
@_____._
@_____._ 2 күн бұрын
Do u recommend this for high sens? (I'm at work so i can not watch the video rn)
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
would be fine with any sens
@sternwayprovider
@sternwayprovider 2 күн бұрын
5:32 was asmr that I never knew I needed
@spenfps
@spenfps 2 күн бұрын
even though this video was for a cloth pad the beginning segment made me switch back to glass LOL
@TillMyHeartStop
@TillMyHeartStop 2 күн бұрын
what dpi/sens do u play with on bfv
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
@@TillMyHeartStop 7 or 9 @ 800
@Maxc828
@Maxc828 2 күн бұрын
Nice Sofle😊 Very interesting perspective on a cloth-pad.
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
nice try, it's a lily58 😈
@Maxc828
@Maxc828 2 күн бұрын
@ 😭 u got me. I even have that one too from boardsource 🥲
@MrPepper0ni
@MrPepper0ni 2 күн бұрын
just picked up a hayate otsu xsoft recently wonder how this and other new artisan pads would compare its super fast until its not after you reach a certain point of speed you begin to immediately feel that "textured" feeling this also happens if you press into the pad harder at less speed depending on how much you press into it what id be most curious in seeing is how it would feel to have that specific weave or say an otsu or zero etc with this added weave if it has all net positives that is its possible some people may not appreciate having that extra dexterity in diagonal movements but to me it sounds really fun to use if the otsu had the capability to move that way it would be very interesting although i like the way it is ive been using a faster sens since i got the pad for multiple reasons but it still is more controlled than my old muddy amazon pad while remaining lightning fast its super easy to stop even when playing on ludicrous sensitivities but i can imagine this pad being playable on ultra low sensitivities as well so its really balanced in both directions and could probably be used by just about anyone although i have no experience with other artisian mousepads this feels like it falls under a category of its fast while being controllable enough for 99% of people so long as they use the proper mouse combination that works for them like if you cant handle a really fast surface than a ultra lightweight 30gram fingertip mouse combo with this on a fast sensitivity might be difficult to control although i am running a lamzu maya fnatic edition (smol not the x variant also webbased is annoying lemme know if i made the right choice lol i tried to pick the one that would fit me better but there wasnt that much info on the real differences aside from the actual size anyways) so 45grams + really fast sensitivity + hayate otsu even an Xsoft otsu is probably faster than a mid zero but i have not a clue on that so decent little speed combo still controllable great pad would rec probably any artisan products 👍
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
my brother in christ you need some punctuation in your writing LOL sounds like u made the right choice though, seems like a nice combo
@MrPepper0ni
@MrPepper0ni 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefied i usually write comments on my phone and the autocorrect is broken so sorry if i try to use punctuation it autocorrects to no punctuation making me rewrite things twice for it to stay for each individual word that needs punctuation lol
@ruumelan
@ruumelan 2 күн бұрын
Key-83 feels amazing with EADALI arm sleeve
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
i'd love to try it, but i don't think i need _another_ obscure japanese sleeve haha
@ruumelan
@ruumelan 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefied its the best sleeve mouse pad combo I've used, 100% worth trying out😁 black or white EADALI arm sleeve tho since there are differences weaving depending on the color
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
​@@ruumelan frick i may have to
@atacoman
@atacoman 2 күн бұрын
wondering how you got that blade thru tsa
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
this one was actually viscose's, but i did take an edit lite on the plane haha
@atacoman
@atacoman 2 күн бұрын
@pinguefied I know next to nothing on the topic of balisongs so I assume the one you took doesn't have an actual blade
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
​@@atacomanyeah those are plastic haha
@pimpom3902
@pimpom3902 2 күн бұрын
what game is that
@nsn333
@nsn333 2 күн бұрын
is that a palette? you should review balisongs too.
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
i have a fully scripted and voiced review for the palette done but i've been way too lazy to get background/applicable footage for it 😭 also sucks to be in australia and not have my other balis to use as reference footage, like when i mention the squiddy
@nsn333
@nsn333 2 күн бұрын
looking forward to it
@countercorps
@countercorps 2 күн бұрын
The white nails with the white glass pad and the white HSK Pro? Go off Queen
@plitho9309
@plitho9309 2 күн бұрын
MIGHT need to get this for my g305
@danathfv
@danathfv 14 сағат бұрын
please no I just spend 100$ I can’t go back in debt
@brite7065
@brite7065 2 күн бұрын
I have the exact same issue with my arm on cloth, I got two artisan pads because someone told me they are super not sticky, and just switched back to glass like 2 weeks later. I just wnd up playing like 20cm in game so I can just my wrist, glass is just right for me
@goroWOMP
@goroWOMP 2 күн бұрын
vid so good i had to watch on my second channel
@ilekonnankoukku
@ilekonnankoukku 2 күн бұрын
Why not main raiden?
@pinguefy
@pinguefy 2 күн бұрын
doesn't play as nice with sleeves, i don't really like using the procision
@prismlight0235
@prismlight0235 2 күн бұрын
Thoughts on the kin x soar ?
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
it's pretty!
@prismlight0235
@prismlight0235 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefied 😭 that's fair, any words about the performance though?. I was thinking of getting either that or the beast ( tempted to get both ngl ).
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
@@prismlight0235 LOL sry i was intentionally avoiding talking about the pad bc i'm not a huge fan here's the most objective way i can describe it: it has faster dynamic friction than the kin v2 but with around the same static friction. the result is a pad that feels slippery; the static friction is so much higher relative to the dynamic that it is really hard to make fine motions. clean tracking and directional changes are absurdly hard and micros are a nightmare. it’s like using a tactile switch on a keyboard: you have to overcome the initial force requirement at the start of the movement, and with very tactile switches it’s hard to stop right after you clear the initial force. some switches are so tactile that as soon as you get past the bump, you bottom out the key instantly. this is essenitally what happens to your aim when trying to perform precise aim. the one benefit having such high relative static friction has is stability. i have some really solid bfv clips with the kin x because it's actively difficult to move the mouse after you end a flick. so my initial flicks look clean, but if i missed, it was really tough haha it's a very strange pad. it seems like the lower dynamic friction is something that was unintentional based on how they talk about it, but it results in a pad that will probably become a display piece for most people. the quality of life is also not very good imo.
@prismlight0235
@prismlight0235 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefied Appreciate it and love your content, thanks!
@alvarod2733
@alvarod2733 2 күн бұрын
Your all day sleeve is from shein?
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
huh?
@alvarod2733
@alvarod2733 2 күн бұрын
@pinguefied Sorry, I don't speak English well hehe, I mean, is the n1 sleeve for you the one in the description that Shein sends and is it made of spandex?
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
@@alvarod2733 it's made of polyester. i don't doubt that the more tried and tested sleeves like the eadali would be better though but for $2 i was very impressed with the shein one
@alvarod2733
@alvarod2733 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefied okey thanks a lot:)
@phillyman36
@phillyman36 2 күн бұрын
What keyboard are you using? Are you using some sort of split ortholinear keyboard?
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
it's a lily58, and yea it's split/columnar stagger
@phillyman36
@phillyman36 2 күн бұрын
@pinguefied so you prefer that overall standard keyboard? I'm learning to game with a keyboard and have been looking at the moonlander from zsa.
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
@@phillyman36 i actually really like it for gaming, i never play games that require me to have binds on the right side of the board, i get a few extra thumb buttons i could use for binds, and whenever i go back to 60% boards, my left hand feels like it has to be so far away. and yeah i really enjoy typing on it haha
@thedog5k
@thedog5k 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefied What happened to the azeron?
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
@@thedog5k i didn't bring it to australia :( i would've loved to use it on bo6
@aaaaaaa7887
@aaaaaaa7887 2 күн бұрын
when is more raw input podcast great video tho honestly might buy this pad
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
i just bought misscolourz a mic so we can record an ep while she's in NZ :D
@aaaaaaa7887
@aaaaaaa7887 2 күн бұрын
@@pinguefied😱😱😱😱 lets gooooo
@Bozo_TF2
@Bozo_TF2 2 күн бұрын
Are you into custom keyboards at all? You seem like you would
@pinguefied
@pinguefied 2 күн бұрын
i was really into the hobby a few years ago (i still haven't received my rama kara), but after getting my lily58 and customizing it to the point where i'm happy, the only thing that could get me to switch would be an HE split ortho.
@whorvette
@whorvette 2 күн бұрын
nice review, super jealous of your nails
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