The King Crimson Iceberg Explained | Part 1

King Crimson is a band with a rich history spanning from 1969 to the present. This iceberg will go over a few notable members, albums, songs, and events from the band's history.
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This video covers the first two layers of the above iceberg.
All music in the video by ‪@Seabass_Fiction‬ ! He does a lot of videos covering classic rock songs in a video game soundfont, check him out!
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[@theklown1671]

I was not expecting an iceberg of my favorite band created by the same person who made icebergs on my favorite game.

[@mrlucas9072]

Starless is one of the best songs of all time. Especially the final 4 minutes.

[@johnwise9811]

Facts

[@ash_11117]

Easily top 10 of all time

[@atijohn8135]

*especially in the final 12 minutes and 25 seconds

[@liz.1328]

i cant believe how highly regarded starless is tbh. its a pretty great song, but i dont even consider it the best song on red.

[@tuskact4overheaven873]

@@liz.1328 And what's for you? Fallen angel is a close second for me

[@TammyAshell]

King Crimson is my favorite rock band alongside The Velvet Underground so it's lovely to finally see an Iceberg video on it

[@muzzyLimon]

Great taste!

[@PrimericanIdol]

It's too bad Lou Reed decided to make the musical diarrhea known as Lulu with Metallica. He could have collaborated with King Crimson instead.

[@JamosHeat]

⁠@@PrimericanIdolI honestly don’t mind lulu in a sort of artistic, sadistic way. I don’t think Lou reed would ever admit it, but I think the album was made to annoy Metallica fans and it did so brilliantly.

[@charthh]

please make a second part to this! i just got into KC and i feel so behind cus everyone else in the community seems to have a much more intellectual understanding of their music but your video really helped me catch up. thank you!

[@Rivecha]

Part 2 is out now!

[@FilthyTea]

On behalf of Jojo fans, I apologize in advance for all of the Jojo comments you’re gonna get. This band is rad but everyone just makes jojokes whenever they get brought up on the internet outside of the circle of their fans.

[@worldcollapse]

Jojo fans r epic

[@XPGrindDeathking]

​@@worldcollapse But also annoying, look under any music video referenced in JoJo and you see a bunch of them.

[@lamecasuelas2]

I got into jojo because of the King

[@fortrachug]

jojo fans when they see an old rock song that hasn't been smothered with unfunny comments

[@JamosHeat]

I’ve never watched it, but it’s important to try not to be gatekeepy. I do agree that it can be unfunny and annoying but it’s important to try and be happy for other people enjoying music you enjoy through whatever means.

[@rushnerd]

KC is my favorite band of all time next to well obviously Rush. Thank you so much for taking the time to respect them like this. I remember trading a shroom t-shirt for wake of Poseidon my sophomore year and after their debut album it just changed my life. Discipline honestly is what completely changed my life in music when I heard it on vinyl though. Nothing else in the world compares to that. As a side note, I had a ton of fun playing KC on guitar and bass. Though I can't even come close to the genius of Fripp. Greg Lake is a legend. EDIT: Thanks for finding that site on court of the crimson king. It blew my mind in 2004 and it has a crazy amount of detail. You did your homework (just the fact you have Return to Forever from Romanic Warrior easily tells me you are serious about what you do and it's frankly inspiring.) You have a new sub (because you mentioned ASIA haha)

[@bobsbigboy_]

Rush is mid

[@cannonsavage741]

No ​@@bobsbigboy_

[@jmashups6804]

I can 100% sympathize with your experience growing as a person alongside King Crimson's Music. I was incredibly depressed for several years, but on my journey out of depression, King Crimson was one of the bands that took the journey with me. Thanks for a fantastic video deep diving into one of my favorite bands. Also, I'll add that Islands is my favorite Album, with Islands itself being the main song that got me through the times I mentioned before. Definitely an album people are sleeping on.

[@thekivster]

John Wetton is definitely the best bassist they ever had

[@Rivecha]

I think its in between Wetton and Levin IMO

[@frankhoulihanfh4972]

They’ve had some serious bass players.

[@PrimericanIdol]

Les Claypool was also partially influenced by King Crimson. Primus even covered Thela Hun Ginjeet, and Jerry was a racecar driver sounds an awful lot like Elephant Talk.

[@JamosHeat]

It’s got to be Levin for me.

[@PrimericanIdol]

Fripp had a talk once where he said that the only bass player of the time who could measure up to John Wetton was Jaco Pastorius.

[@Bronze.]

Kind of surprised that Starless was not mentioned being the last song the current itteration of KC played and likely will forever be.

[@dantheman9766]

this is amazing! sadly not many every cover King Crimson, hope the 2nd part comes soon! Really enjoyed this whole video, keep up the amazing work!

[@Rivecha]

Thank you for enjoying! Part 2 is out now!

[@rivereuphrates8103]

I think it's great that younger people are now finding out about King Crimson through JJBA and actually liking it and delving deeper. When I was in high school in the late 00's, literally no one knew what KC was and when I'd show them they'd talk mad shit on their music. So I can't complain! Good iceberg man. I dig it.

[@BrianBurkeProd]

I found out about it from r/vinyljerk

[@ipuffin_2139]

as someone in high school who found KC's music from my dad, still no one knows of KC lol

[@dsotgabriel_]

Today has to be the best day of my life, I was just procrastinating to do video scripts and a freaking King Crimson iceberg suddenly appears to me, you don't know how much happy I am to see it

[@xenoyparxi]

33:00 if we talk about John Wetton, then you gotta mention his next project "U.K." with Bill Bruford after KC disbanded. The prog-rock/jazz-fusion band and the self-titled debut album, that released in 1978. Absolute banger of an album, featuring Allan Holdsworth on guitar where he knocks it out of the park as well, Eddie Jobson's synth playing is also noteworthy. After dropping that absolute gem the prominent members all just kinda left, John made second album "Danger Money" and that was kinda it for the band, only live albums after that. Sad but an interesting story of how prominent musicians such as those guys banded together after KC ceased to exist, because they wanted to do more, dropped one album that absolutely rips and kinda left it at that.

[@thomasulrich3107]

This is awesome, can't wait for part 2! Hope talks about the Jimi Hendrix story, also, the singer of the title track of Lizard is Jon Anderson from Yes, that track really makes the album for me

[@HEHEHE_I_AM_A_MASKED_WARRIA]

14:52 It's not really "lax copyright laws", since copyright doesn't actually protect song or album titles at all. It's just that they're afraid to get sued in the West because lawsuits cost money, and even though they would probably win it's just not worth the risk. They can get away with it in Japan probably because no one cares to actually sue over there. Also, this is almost certainly a coincidence since Araki doesn't speak English, but among the items Doppio uses as "phones" are cigarettes, an ice cream cone, and a figurine. This matches the "Cigarettes, ice cream, figurines of the Virgin Mary" chorus from The Great Deceiver (the line is also one of the few KC lyrics written by Robert Fripp).

[@Chance4]

he probably looks up the meanings in japanese, that cant be a coincidence.

[@HEHEHE_I_AM_A_MASKED_WARRIA]

@@Chance4 I don't think so, since many other objects were used too. And it wasn't specifically a Mary figure, just a generic doll or puppet.

[@johnwise9811]

Wait the Great Deceiver coincidence is hilarious omg

[@atijohn8135]

​@@HEHEHE_I_AM_A_MASKED_WARRIA maybe not in this particular case (since it comes from a different song entirely), but most of the other song references in the series have very clear ties between the lyrics and the characters or the characters' abilities, take Golden Experience or Epitaph for example

[@_ratherBursadboi]

🌞larls🌞

[@johnwise9811]

Great video! I really hope that Fripp brings the group back again for another iteration + tour but it seems unlikely.

[@alejandroblanco2071]

This vid it's amazing & so valuable for the tons of great info🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@Rivecha]

Thank you!

[@UrielVoltra]

bro it fucking rocked, i awaited for the iceberg video on my FAV prog band of all time

[@CargoCommando]

i think that Diavolo's ability was inspired by the song Law of Maximum Distress. when it first released on The Great Deceiver (1992) there was a huge cut in the middle of the song and they couldn't figure out where they left the tape (years later they eventually realized that it was actually The Mincer) so the song Skips a few minutes mid-way through just like King Crimson's ability to skip time. since it released in 92 araki definitely could've listened to it while cooking up part 5

[@karolgm6247]

Wow! That makes sense!

[@frankhoulihanfh4972]

As a long time, essentially lifetime Crimson fan, I found this excellent. Thank you!❤

[@onlycoIlect]

Loved this video, even learned a new thing or two! I also wanna throw in my own two cents by saying that I actually like the fact that In The Wake and In The Court are so similar. The "Peace" trilogy and it not having a counterpart in In The Court is precisely why I love it, it touched on extremely similar themes musically and conceptually, but some seem repeated, exaggerated, or taken more casually. My interpretation of this is that while In The Court could represent peak despair in a world whose balance is upset by war, In The Wake represents that same world but with a more fearless approach, focusing in more on some of the smaller evils of daily life, while finding "Peace" in between.

[@Zeenobae]

the most random iceberg I've had in my recommended but I LOVE king crimson, so glad you made this. also I'd like to see a part 2 to the pokemon conspiracy iceberg, I just got out of that one before this lmao

[@Geoffreydarcy-pv4mq]

There are no bad KC albums, there are only bad interpretations of the content.

[@PrimericanIdol]

Yes there are: the ones that don't exist.

[@Musicman3832]

Great video. My 15th birthday was today. I’m a guitarist and a singer and love King Crimson. Got really into beat and discipline lately.

[@APoleYouKnow]

Excellent video my friend! My only real complaint would be that you dedicate a lot of time to summarizing each album when it could probably just be glossed over, but I do understand that it's necessary to elaborate on them later on in the iceberg. Other than that, you explain everything beautifully and in detail. I cannot wait for part 2.

[@fanball9912]

it is insane how the 3 verses in schizoid man are so ahead of their time and still relevant to this day

[@fortrachug]

True...

[@BioPhoenixReviews]

this is an insanely good iceburg video. i also got into this band early on and love their albums. one thing i noticed that im surprised is not in the iceberg picture (unless its written differently) is that Ian Mcdonald did compose a few tracks for a video game on sega saturn called Wachenröder. wish is a very cool game

[@aen1595]

I've been waiting for this my entire life

[@Lyciata]

Never knew I needed a KC iceberg until I saw the video

[@SunFellow941]

"Moonchild including The Dream and The Illusion" is one of my favorite Crimson tracks. I would call the improv section mellow free jazz. I love it! I would just sit and meditate on it in the 1970s!

[@jmashups6804]

I will also add, one thing that might make for a good addition to the iceberg that the song "Beginning" by Daisuke Inoue from the Mobile Suit Gundam Compilation Films' Soundtrack is incredibly similar to the beginning of "Lizard", specifically the Prince Rupert segment, and is most likely directly lifted inspirationally.

[@Rivecha]

Wow just listened to that, it really is so similar

[@Roblino]

Went into this video very intrigued for many reasons as I adore the bands entire catalogue of music, but I honestly expected the inevitable JoJo section to focus a lot on trashing on it (maybe deservedly so coming from King Crimson fans). But I'm very pleasantly surprised you not only didn't do that but also gave many personal insights of connections from the music to the story, and it showed you have clearly put effort into researching and learning what you're actually talking about. Your voice and personality also just seems to fit perfectly into iceberg videos. This was a wonderful and informative video! Keep making stuff!

[@Molten546]

im so glad this video exists, easy way for me to get more info about one of my favourite bands

[@ka5333]

The "drop" of The Talking Drum is Lark's part 2

[@CrisisMoon7]

I remember watching you for the Fortnite iceberg, but I did not expect you had made King Crimson iceberg. KC over the summer is a band Ive fallen in love with, Court of the Crimson King was the only song I listened from them since I was 14-15 but it isn’t till now I experienced their discography. So good hehe. 14:25 didn’t know that’s his real name 7:48pm August 2 24 Friday

[@DaDudeFromCheers]

Finally, a iceberg i finally want!

[@slendermangonewild]

I really hope you continue this it was a great video will definitely sub.

[@Rivecha]

Part 2 is out now!

[@dabo8249]

loved this video! looking forward for part 2

[@mok._.387]

I have no idea what this is, but ill still check it out

[@user-ss1yb5fn4j]

wow i never expected a king crimson iceberg

[@vonivenkat740]

Great video ! I also discovered jojo after learning that it had some characters named after rock songs. Looking forward to future parts if you decide to make them !

[@queennai6471]

I can't wait to see part 2!

[@markastyan]

Amazing video man!

[@agoodun11]

"all that matters is that the song sounds super good" I concur

[@BrianBurkeProd]

Holy shit, Red Screamy Man Iceberg! But seriously KC rocks and deserves more credit for their development of progressive rock genre, along with metal, alternative, and art-rock. Their vocal effects are so ahead of their time, akin to what the Killers used in the 2000s. And of course the Kanye sample. It’s nuts.

[@richardphilpott1225]

Providence is completely under rated. The best improv ever, period. Prog is a collection of folks trying to emulate King Crimson but failing miserably. Frank Zappa for President!

[@_ratherBursadboi]

At the cost of my social life I came in here knowing most of the stuff on here

[@ohautoparts6462]

amazing video bro!

[@Seabass_Fiction]

thanks for the shout out! Love how the video came out, super interesting stuff!

[@Rivecha]

No problem, your covers are awesome!

[@Calamity417]

David cross is a Violinist and his work on Larks is a Amazing

[@bojiden]

Oh man I wish I had time to watch this whole video! Great research!

[@thepigman592]

Please make pt2

[@Rivecha]

Part 2 is out now!

[@TheSpiralAim]

I actually quite like the Lizard album, it's the album that got me into the band believe it or not. The two true stand out tracks on it though are Lizard and Cirkus, the rest is definitely not some of their best stuff.

[@jagle6085]

part 2 when?

[@Rivecha]

Part 2 is out now!

[@ericarmstrong6540]

Good video. Complete the series. How many times does the word "titular" appear?

[@Rivecha]

probably once per album entry

[@davidirvine4294]

My first Prog Rock album.

[@bofad6074]

ah yes every fortnite player's favorite band. KING CRIMSON lmao

[@XPGrindDeathking]

Only advanced fortnite fans can appreciate good music.

[@tidiarr]

whenever you make another part to this series i'll be right therr

[@Rivecha]

Part 2 is out now!

[@tidiarr]

@@Rivecha FUCK YEEEEEEAAAAAAA🕺

[@KazBodnar]

Surprised that I knew 90% of these, I'm way too deep

[@Rivecha]

This is just the first two layers, there's still a lot more to cover. Part 2 is out now, lets see if you know most of them!

[@plasma2942]

This video this video made me finally realise why people joke about larks tongues in aspic fans being femboys

[@scal8540]

🌞Larls🌞

[@juanaf8]

Another very recent reveal about the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure thing: in the most recent JoJolands chapter as of now (Chapter 13) we got introduced to a corporation called HOWLER, which might be a reference to the King Crimson song "The Howler", from the album Beat. Another older reference you missed (though I don't blame you since it's a bit hard to notice when you're not paying attention) is that there's a café in part 8, JoJolion, that has a logo that closely resembles the celtic knot from the Discipline album cover (same scene also has a visual reference to Kanye West's The College Dropout)

[@thekivster]

Ladies of the Road has the best lyrics in all of King Crimson

[@gercekbko]

Nice job!

[@drepdrained]

That’s a surprise, welcomed though

[@meursault7030]

It's cool to finally know what people are talking about with all that Jojo's Bizarre Adventure stuff in KC's comment sections. I'm not a fan of shonen manga/anime so I won't be watching it, but it seems like it's turned a lot of people onto some great music, and that's never a bad thing.

[@ObjectivelyL]

When I hear "Ladies Of The Road", I see it as a satirical character piece on a gross misogynist.

[@Rivecha]

Possible, some say Fripp saw it as satirical while Sinfield was unironic

[@ObjectivelyL]

@@Rivecha Knowing Sinfield contributed lyrics for ELP's Love Beach, I wouldn't be that surprised if it was genuine on his part.

[@christophermoebs5514]

King Crimson fan since they released the first album. Did i miss Ian McDonald? I can play Song Of The Gulls on my harmonica

[@NimrodelMirage]

Very nice video, i loved the interpretations/explanations of the songs and albums!! Looking forward for part 2, +1 sub :) PS: i cracked up when you started reading the lyrics to Neal and Jack and me lolll

[@leafaleonhart]

🌞larls🌞

[@bobsbigboy_]

How tf did you just say Conneseur XD

[@Hewt666]

Islands has an alternate album cover that is more plain but is great either way. personally i think islands is a much better album then lizard. lizard is truely "unlistenable"

[@hippomancy]

I tend to think of Stairway to Heaven as being the most popular prog rock song.,... Stairway would beat Bohemian Rhapsody per listener choice... I came to King Crimson because of 21st C Schizoid... a Canadian band called April Wine covered it, with three guitarists taking on Fripp (and Collins') parts.

[@thekivster]

Islands is the jazziest not Itwop

[@Rivecha]

They definitely play up the jazz influence in the live versions of Islands songs

[@user-ud7gv3br5d]

wheres part 2?

[@Rivecha]

Part 2 is out now!

[@mullhollandmace7271]

Return to Forever were Fusion Jazz.

[@casual-bat-man]

When is saw the thumbnail and title I thought it was a dark tower iceberg 😂

[@diekinnkopfe8714]

arent tehy still on tour in england?

[@Kaijinstepann]

matter of fact,i can skip 5 and 10 secs in time

[@HYDRODUST67]

Return to forever is jazz fusion.

[@wiggy009]

There is overlap

[@null0286]

Do you have a Fortnite Creator code? If so how do you spell it?

[@Rivecha]

It's just Rivecha, like my username!

[@jacksonstaab408]

I used to be one of those “Pink Floyd isn’t prog” snobs but at least for me it wasn’t about popularity, more that their music isn’t very complex. They definitely had the aesthetics and structure of prog but with few exceptions most of their stuff boiled down to slow 4/4 and acoustic guitars. Eventually I decided I loved Pink Floyd too much to give a shit, though.

[@dsotgabriel_]

Finally someone that actually thinks with their brain. You're absolutely right, most of Pink Floyd songs are easy if you're at least an intermediate musician. However, I don't think that just because they don't use really complex chords and time signatures, they aren't prog. I think prog is about virtuosity and Pink Floyd absolutely blows it by making simple, yet genius amazing masterpieces.

[@agoodun11]

KC goat 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐

[@vbassone]

Return To Forever's "Romantic Warrior" and Return To Forever in general are NOT progressive rock. They are JAZZ-Rock. You cannot judge their music solely by the album cover of Romantic Warrior! Return To Forever were one of the founding groups of what was originally called "Jazz-Rock" and later referred to as "Fusion." THEY ARE NOT AND WERE NOT A PART OF THE PROGRESSIVE ROCK MOVEMENT, AND CERTAINLY ARE VERY DISTINCT FROM ALL THE PROGRESSIVE ROCK BANDS YOU GROUPED THEM WITH BECAUSE OF RTF'S MEMBERS" JAZZ BACKGROUND. RTF=JAZZ rock, not PROGRESSIVE rock!

[@sadi0807]

their progressive roots can’t be denied though, one of corea’s biggest reasons for forming the band was due to his fascination with bands like yes and elp

[@vbassone]

COMPLETELY WRONG! NOOOO, Chick Corea's BIGGEST reason for forming Return To Forever was seeing MAHAVISHNU play live, a JAZZ -rock band, not a PROGRESSIVE rock band, NOT YES OR ELP! You couldn't be more wrong. AGAIN, my point; JAZZ-ROCK was NOT really influenced by PROGRESSIVE rock, only somewhat. Jazz -rock or 'fusion' as it later became known, was influenced by early JAZZ-ROCK, like Electric Miles Davis, Tony Williams's Lifetime, and Mahavishnu which LED directly to Weather Report and RETURN TO FOREVER. NOOO, you are wrong. GET THIS STRAIGHT!@@sadi0807

[@thebumstickler5959]

quit plagiarizing wikipedia lmao

[@areamusicale]

4:30 it seems you are confusing "schizoid" with "introvert" 🤣

[@careyvinzant]

This is a admittedly a bit nit -picky, but Return to Forever is generally considered to be Fusion, not Prog.

[@bodyhater]

you do not do an iceberg of king crimson. you got it all wrong, completely.

[@DanielMcGrath1969]

Ha Ha Ha.

[@douglasarthur2673]

Read The Grauniad much ??? 😂

[@alberth8125]

I really like King Crimsom, but like, basically every album they have is 2-3 good songs then the rest of the songs are complete jibberish.

[@aaaaa111aaaaa]

Have we listened to the Same Red?

[@alberth8125]

except Red ofc@@aaaaa111aaaaa

[@demos1936]

???

[@999paradis3]

does it skip time tho? does it own a mafia in Italy?

[@KellonMelon65]

keep yourself safe

[@Soft_Machine]

JoJo fans if being the most insufferable fan base imaginable was a class you'd get an S+

[@dsotgabriel_]

No, it just fears tomorrow it'll be crying.

[@999paradis3]

@@Soft_Machine thanks babe

[@elizabethsusanlibra]

@@Soft_Machine oh, don't worry. KC fan base can be MUCH worse.

[@rayquaza2257]

Jojos bizarre adventure

[@Soft_Machine]

That has nothing to do with this video

[@worldcollapse]

Based

[@carolinedanon1718]

Too much talking. Too little music.

[@harmono8766]

Ok you lost me with the classification of Pink Floyd as not being prog. It has nothing to do with how popular they are. There are many things that make it not progressive. Bands like Yes, Genesis and ELP are in a different class than Pink Floyd. The emphasis is not on virtuoso playing. They rarely play Classical style. Pink Floyd to me are post Psychedelic. Prog is similar in many ways to post Psychedelic but post Psychedelic sticks to conventional music forms usually unless they are experimenting. Pink Floyd mainly sticks to R&B with other Classic Rock styles actually if you take away the experimental aspect they are definitely just Classic Rock.

[@МуродТанжихолов]

Part 2 when?

[@Rivecha]

Working on it, I'm juggling the other iceberg series so I'll get to it soon

[@Rivecha]

Part 2 is out now!

[@ryazortheeyezor1548]

wheres part 2?

[@Rivecha]

It's in the works

[@Rivecha]

Part 2 is out now!

[@ryazortheeyezor1548]

@@Rivecha yay